Re: [blfs-dev] Introduction

2012-08-22 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Aug 20, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Randy McMurchy ra...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Anyway, I'm glad to be back and I look forward to getting back working on the BLFS book again. I must really have stopped paying attention, I thought you were still leading the BLFS effort! Anyway, welcome back! I'm

[blfs-dev] Once more: Package Management

2012-05-19 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
I've been holding back bringing this up on-list for a while because I intended to do the bulk of the work and then present a working system to the community for comment and review. I still intend to do that, but given some recent discussions, I think the time is right to bring this up and see

Re: [blfs-dev] initramfs

2012-02-22 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On 2/21/12 11:28 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: $ sh list-libs.sh ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 libblkid.so.1 libc.so.6 libdl.so.2 libhistory.so.6 libncursesw.so.5 libpthread.so.0 libreadline.so.6 librt.so.1 libuuid.so.1 libz.so.1 Yeah, that looks right at a glance, nice! JH --

Re: [blfs-dev] initramfs

2012-02-21 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On 2/21/12 2:49 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: As an example, look at this init: https://github.com/jhuntwork/LightCube-OS/blob/master/packages/mkinitramfs/init.in Well that's certainly easier than dracut. I would want to add UUID and LABEL capabilities. Actually, the UUID stuff just works the

Re: [blfs-dev] initramfs

2012-02-21 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On 2/21/12 3:03 PM, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: On 2/21/12 2:49 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: As an example, look at this init: https://github.com/jhuntwork/LightCube-OS/blob/master/packages/mkinitramfs/init.in Well that's certainly easier than dracut. I would want to add UUID and LABEL capabilities

Re: [blfs-dev] initramfs

2012-02-21 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On 2/21/12 8:51 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I was able to use menuentry BLFS Dev (LFS-7.0-Feb14) initrd, Linux 3.0.4 { linux /vmlinuz-3.0.4-lfs-20120214 root=UUID=54b934a9-302d-415e-ac11-4988408eb0a8 ro initrd /initrd.img-no-kmods } and it worked the first time. Nice! One interesting thing

Re: [blfs-dev] initramfs

2012-02-21 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On 2/21/12 8:51 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Very interesting. I took your scripts and hacked them a bit. I set it up Oh, one other thing that I was going to do at some point but also hadn't gotten around to yet was to pull in the required dynamic libs, well, dynamically. Perhaps parse output from

Re: [blfs-dev] ffmpeg nitpick part ii (flattening)

2011-12-21 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Dec 21, 2011, at 6:52 AM, Andrew Benton wrote: So what should we have on the page? At the moment it says: If you upload certain formats (quicktime, mov or mp4) to youtube, you need to flatten them (move the index to the front of the file) before uploading. FFmpeg contains a tool called

Re: [blfs-dev] ffmpeg nitpick part ii (flattening)

2011-12-21 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Dec 21, 2011, at 6:03 AM, Ken Moffat wrote: As the person who mentioned flattening to Andy, all I can say is that common usage at youtube refers to it. And, despite the implication that it is only to improve the user experience, it is necessary to use it to successfully upload .mov files

[blfs-dev] ffmpeg nitpick part ii (flattening)

2011-12-20 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Nathan's email reminded me that there's also a dubious statement on the current ffmpeg page. The page references using qt-faststart to 'flatten' files by moving the index to the front of the file. Indeed, qt-faststart does move the moov atom (which contains metadata about the video) to the

Re: Linux_PAM

2011-11-12 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Nov 12, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Tobias Gasser l...@ebp-gasser.ch wrote: i just restarted from scratch. as you suggested, i added --enable-dbm to db, but pam stil fails. config db: --enable-compat185 --enable-cxx --enable-db This should be --enable-dbm JH --

Re: dhcp-4.2.2

2011-11-04 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Nov 4, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: I see no use at all of pkg-config outside of programming. It's definitely connected to programming, but then so is glibc, binutils and gcc. But I don't think I'd classify them under a programming label. Pkg-config is a

Re: A git test drive

2010-12-07 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On 12/7/10 2:31 PM, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote: I'm a bit confused. Point VI. Does it mean you build Subversion, somehow including swig-pl in the process and ending with Perl bindings for Subversion routines? How does one do that? The subversion sources come with the Perl bindings. All you

Re: A git test drive

2010-12-07 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On 12/7/10 5:02 PM, Randy McMurchy wrote: Though all this is off-topic for this list, I'll add that current SWIG (if 2.0.1 is still current) builds the latest subversion tarball bindings just fine. I should have subversion updated in the book to the latest version sometime this week. So you

Re: A git test drive

2010-12-07 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On 12/7/10 6:13 PM, Randy McMurchy wrote: Exactly what do you mean when you say So you still make use of the separate SWIG package? I'm not trying to me a smart-a$$, I just am a bit confused with your message. Sure, no problem. What I meant was that Subversion appears to come pre-packaged

Re: A git test drive

2010-12-07 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On 12/7/10 6:36 PM, Randy McMurchy wrote: And the more I think about it, because they are SWIG bindings, what you are building is worthless without a SWIG installation. I'll bet you've never tried to actually use the bindings, or for that matter even run the test suites for the bindings.

Re: A git test drive

2010-12-07 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On 12/7/10 7:05 PM, Randy McMurchy wrote: It mentions something about pre-generated swig wrappers in the subversion tarball at http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracSubversion, though they still recommend that you build SWIG according the instructions given in the subversion tarball. They even

Re: qpopper - drop it ?

2010-11-10 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Nov 10, 2010, at 1:33 AM, DJ Lucas d...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: I've been using Dovecot for quite a while and am quite happy with it. Ditto. Dovecot surprised me, probably because of the headache involved with other implementations I tried. It's flexible, reliable, and super easy to

Re: ntp init script

2010-08-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On 8/24/10 9:12 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: If the system time is too far off the network time, then ntpd just exits. This can happen easily if the hwclock is set to utc and /etc/sysconfig/clock is not (or vice versa). Not if it is started with -gx. I've just tested and confirmed. I set my date

ntp init script

2010-08-23 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hi, This has come up before, but I want to bring it up again now because it's such a simple fix to an old problem. Given that the purpose of the init script is to (as the book puts it): run ntpd continuously and allow it to synchronize the time in a gradual manner., the current options passed

Re: ntp init script

2010-08-23 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On 8/23/10 3:34 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: You are quoting out of context. The fill startup is: boot_mesg Starting ntpd... ntpd -gqx loadproc /usr/sbin/ntpd Ah, my mistake. I didn't actually see the loadproc line underneath. In theory, yes, ntpd -q should be run once first, to update the

Re: ntp init script

2010-08-23 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On 8/23/10 4:54 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Since we use *pool.ntp.org, how would you propose doing that? I agree that it would be nice, but I don't know how. I don't know either, at least, I haven't given much thought to it. My solution for myself was just to assume a correct date has been set at

Re: ntp init script

2010-08-23 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On 8/23/10 6:10 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: What if the ntp server provided is down like in the 2nd entry above? Or (for who knows what reason) outgoing ICMP packets are blocked where you have no control? This problem is not easily solved. Understood and agreed. Again, I think that initial set of

Re: xorg-server and pixman

2008-12-04 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
DJ Lucas wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Hello, I know there has been a lot of discussion on Xorg lately, so sorry if this is bringing up a known issue, but xorg-server also appears to require pixman now. The instructions in BLFS svn break for me at xorg-server because pixman is missing

Missing patch for libxcb

2008-12-02 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
The instructions include the command: patch -Np1 -i ../libxcb-1.1-sloppy_lock-1.patch But the patch is not listed in the downloads section. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information

[RFC] Proposal of LiveCD project changes

2008-10-19 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hello, First off, thanks to everyone for the comments given, they were very helpful. Based in part on the comments, and upon my own estimation of the project, I have a proposal to make wrt the future of the project. I'll try to keep it as brief as possible, but here are the changes to the

LiveCD Future

2008-10-15 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hello, I know that we've talked about this before but given the events of the past year or so, I'd like to revisit this briefly. Alexander and I have been talking and we're trying to take a very realistic approach to any efforts made to re-enliven the LiveCD project. Without going into too

Re: BLFS-6.3rc1 in progress

2008-05-10 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Justin R. Knierim wrote: I still don't have any automated system to do updates, and have been pretty busy that I haven't been able to do ftp updates as often as I like. Updating manually even with the help of my scripts is a total PITA. If you have ideas for a better solution and would

Re: BLFS release (?)

2008-05-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: DJ Lucas wrote: The real problem with it is, if we keep holding for every version increment, we'll never get 6.3 out the door. And do we really need to get 6.3 out of the door? Essentially, without an errata page, without the team tracking security issues

Re: BLFS release

2008-05-08 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bruce Dubbs wrote: No. I disabled the rsync some time ago as the last time the master was updated was sometime in December. If Justin's server gets updated, I can easily re-enable the rsync. At this point, why not just make anduin your master ftp server? -- JH --

Re: BLFS release

2008-05-08 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote these words on 05/08/08 17:05 CST: At this point, why not just make anduin your master ftp server? The whole problem was that, as a whole, the BLFS editing team failed to do what we were supposed to (make updates on Anduin after updating

Re: BLFS release

2008-05-08 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: Thanks for offering to help out, Jeremy. :-) No problem. I'd have to re-familiarize myself with the BLFS source and anduin's configuration... Bruce, do I have privileges on anduin to do this sort of work? -- JH --

Re: BLFS release

2008-05-08 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bruce Dubbs wrote: The list of missing pakages is not much shorter. I sent a message to Justin asking if he wants to collaborate using an automated system. Waiting to hear from him... -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: BLFS release

2008-05-08 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: The list of missing pakages is not much shorter. s/not/now/ Heh, funny how one letter makes a huge difference sometimes, eh? -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html

Re: Close ticket #2388 and #2387

2008-03-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bruce Dubbs wrote: I've been working privately to get this fixed. OK, I saw some kind of activity on the wiki, I wasn't sure who that was. Let me know if you need any help. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html

Re: What next? [Was: Re: LiveCD or No LiveCD?]

2008-02-26 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: So we see at least two non-empty camps. One wants a strictly minimal CD, and one wants packages beyond it. The most democratic solution would be to make two CDs (and that's, in fact, the origin of the talks about package management), but we don't have enough

Re: What next? [Was: Re: LiveCD or No LiveCD?]

2008-02-26 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
TheOldFellow wrote: My feeling is that LFS-NG should use the new DIY-Linux build method, AND have a Package Management system, AND have a defined way of managing updates. THEN, I think ALFS and BLFS should use the chosen PM. Well this certainly is taking the discussion to the next level. I'm

Re: What next? [Was: Re: LiveCD or No LiveCD?]

2008-02-26 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Robert Daniels wrote: I feel these are things we should definitely integrate from diy-linux. The new build method is very promising, and will be very helpful for the future when everyone expects their OS to be 64 bit. 64-bit is already possible with LFS via the jh branch, it is rendered

LiveCD or No LiveCD?

2008-02-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hello Everyone, It has recently been suggested to me that the LFS LiveCD project be killed. The main arguments for this are, essentially: 1) It is currently unmaintained 2) It removes the essential prerequisite of being able to configure a Linux system 3) It leads to less testing from other

Shared Calendar?

2007-12-16 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hey All, Just a quick note to say hello and respond to some recent concerns about the inactivity of LFS projects. For me, as I'm sure is the case for several others, several things in my personal life have taken up nearly all my time lately. LFS gets pushed into the background. I think we'd

Re: [Fwd: BLFS - No recent development]

2007-10-14 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: All my spare time is being spent here: http://www.mcmurchy.com/helo/ That's really cool, Randy. What does it take to make something like this happen? How did you get into it? -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: Mail issues?

2007-10-14 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: Hi all, I tried sending some mail earlier, but apparently I'm not allowed to any longer using the email address registered to all the mailing lists. Anyone have any idea why this is happening (from Quantum's mail log) Nothing has changed (that I know of). I'll look

A call for help

2007-08-14 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hello Everyone: The LFS LiveCD project is currently attempting to produce four CDs. A minimalistic CD and a full Xorg+XFCE CD each for both x86 and x86_64. There are two of us working on this project officially. It becomes quite a bit of work to try to keep up with the development of LFS and

Re: [Fwd: List messages rejected]

2007-07-31 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0-912148289-1185757718=:75736 Content-Length: 1540 David, I'm not sure if Bruce mentioned this to you privately, but for your future reference, the above is probably the reason why your message was held for approval. The lists

Re: Anduin Package Repo

2007-07-26 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: Thoughts from others as to how we should go foreword would be Hehe, English makes for some funny mistakes... -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Strange thing compiling Qt-3.3.8

2007-04-15 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:45:33 -0500, Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 04/15/07 12:29 CST: Noted a failure building Qt-3.3.8. Here is from the log of 'make': [snip error] I resumed make and it finished without issue. The build went fine after the

Re: Strange thing compiling Qt-3.3.8

2007-04-15 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:58:58 -0500, Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure how to go about that. Compiling qt is thousands of lines of C+ code, and it simply halts with an error at sporadic places. Yeah, :/ No chance that it's maybe a memory issue? You're using a swap partition at

missing escape character for samba instructions

2007-04-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hello, The dev book has: chmod -v 4755 /usr/bin/smb{mnt,umount} /usr/sbin/{,u}mount.cifs I think that's meant to be: chmod -v 4755 /usr/bin/smb{mnt,umount} \ /usr/sbin/{,u}mount.cifs -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: Fighting spam via greylisting

2007-04-08 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Be advised that your first post to a mailing list might be delayed by a few minutes. If it takes a considerably long time, or if you receive an undeliverable message from your MTA, please let us know at server-admin AT linuxfromscratch DOT org so that we can adjust our

Fighting spam via greylisting

2007-04-07 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Greetings All, Inspired by an email from Richard Downing, I decided to look into using greylisting to help fight spam. If you haven't heard of it before see: http://www.greylisting.org The basic idea is that whenever a new MTA (one that is not in the greylisting database) attempts to deliver

Re: [new XSL] Ready for inputs.

2007-04-07 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 07:07:32PM +0200, M.Canales.es wrote: http://www.lfs-es.info/new-lfs-book/ It looks nice. :) I can't really see a difference, apart from the 'Up' links. Guess that's all I have to say about that. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: sudo (previously PATH=/your/head/asplode)

2007-03-17 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jonathan Oksman wrote: It should also be mentioned in the book that sudo does not support md5 passwords natively. I say this because I've only been able to use it with NOPASSWD set. Further investigation into the source code reveals that this is indeed the case: sudo works just fine on an

Re: sudo (previously PATH=/your/head/asplode)

2007-03-17 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jonathan Oksman wrote: If it's not a problem, I'll stop posting about it. Just trying to help! Yes, I understand and appreciate that. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: fortune-mod

2007-03-07 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: xfce4-tips (arranged by default to start up with the session) calls fortune in order to provide the text for the tip dialog. The exact command line is: fortune /usr/share/xfce4/tips/tips That's odd. Makes me question the usefulness of the tips. -- JH --

Re: fortune-mod

2007-03-07 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: xfce4-tips (arranged by default to start up with the session) calls fortune in order to provide the text for the tip dialog. The exact command line is: fortune /usr/share/xfce4/tips/tips That's odd. Makes me question the usefulness

Re: fortune-mod

2007-03-07 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: That's odd. Makes me question the usefulness of the tips. Full file with tips attached. But OK, it already seems that the consensus is to drop fortune and disable by defaut parts that use it. I'm sorry I interjected. Personally, I don't care at all whether it

Re: CBLFS

2007-01-11 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: Hi all, Noted on the CBLFS page is a note that says not to copy from the BLFS book as it may violate the copyright. But I can't help but notice that many of the descriptions, etc are copied directly from BLFS. A little off-topic: I thought it was a little funny that

Re: Belgarath/Anduin

2006-12-03 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote: Perhaps it is time to move the production BLFS platform to Anduin. At least then we'd have a reliable server that works. +1 at least temporarily. In principle, I agree. However, I think that re-organization would be better done if we

Re: Belgarath/Anduin

2006-12-03 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: Another month? That is simply too long to wait. Well, generally speaking, I agree there, too. I would very much like to see something resolved today, if possible. But, given the fact that Gerard has been working on the server (we've seen proof of that) and that he

Re: Belgarath/Anduin

2006-12-03 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bruce Dubbs wrote: In the meantime, lets discuss exactly what we would do if we moved some of the load from belgarath to anduin. We could start by mirroring the web server files, including trac. I'm not sure if we want to do svn. I know we don't want to do mail. In any case, nothing should

Re: Belgarath/Anduin

2006-12-03 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Jeremy, Why don't you put the most up-to-date version of svn on anduin and we can check it out there before we change anything on belgarath. Alright. I'll start on that later tonight. I have a few other things to do first. -- JH --

Re: Belgarath/Anduin

2006-12-03 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Justin R. Knierim wrote: For trac, all it really needs are the repo files and swig python bindings. It can use the older version of svn, whatever it may be on anduin, it doesn't actually have to serve the files. If you wanted to you can just rsync the /srv/svn or whatever directory to anduin

Subversion Upgrade

2006-11-29 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hey Guys, Just a heads up concerning the latest Subversion release, 1.4.2. A very simple build/configuration built fine against current LFS svn. Apparently there are some major improvements with this release: * svnsync, a new repository mirroring tool * Huge working-copy performance

Re: Subversion Upgrade

2006-11-29 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 12:44:30PM -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: Please review the comments about the new Subversion in http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/ticket/2047. You apparently overlooked these critical items (removing certain packages from the distribution). Of course, if it is

Re: BLFS Project

2006-11-23 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Matthew Burgess wrote: I also have privs. However, I don't have any monitoring daemons available. I know nagios used to run and provide reports to system admins, but I've not seen any recently. I think it only monitored http and smtp. If I notice any services are down (usually limited to

Re: BLFS Project

2006-11-23 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bruce Dubbs wrote: That would be me. I would have let it through if I noticed it, but I didn't see it among the 100+ spam messages. Sorry. No problem. I should have realized that there would have been a lot of trapped spam messages in addition to mine. Sorry if I sounded critical. -- JH

Re: locales, nls - supportable or not?

2006-11-15 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: The problem is that the wrong answer is given to the original poster by TWO editors, and nobody corrected them. On this basis, I declare that locale issues are not really supportable (and DIY is right in ignoring them), and demand immediate removal of all UTF-8

Re: LFS-6.2 release plan

2006-05-22 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Dan Nicholson wrote: That's not really the issue. The issue is that Bruce closed the bug to track packages that won't work in multibyte locales as WONTFIX. Kind of implies that we don't care about Locale Related Issues, doesn't it? I let you reread Alexander's original mail since it was

Re: xchat

2006-05-12 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Looking at the outstanding tickets, xchat is one of the oldest. It seems to be a relatively simple CMMI application, but it doesn't seem to fit into any category of the book. Right now I'm thinking Part V, Basic Networking, Chapter 18, Basic Networking Programs. Thoughts?

Re: xchat

2006-05-12 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Archaic wrote: On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 09:03:48PM -0400, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: You could do that. Or chapter 37, Other X-based Internet Programs might be better. Anyone thought of adding irssi? Unfortunately, irssi wouldn't fit in 37. So if it were added, it would pretty much require

Re: SPAM Problem

2006-04-18 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 07:23:01PM +0200, M.Canales.es wrote: El Martes, 18 de Abril de 2006 18:48, Bruce Dubbs escribió: Non-member email would go to /dev/null I could to agree if instead to /dev/null that mails are keep awaiting moderator approval. In principle I agree. In practice

Re: Gcc-4.1

2006-04-17 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 07:15:15PM +0100, Andrew Benton wrote: Is that wise? As it stands LFS is out of date. Old gcc, old glibc, old kernel headers. As soon as trunk moves to a newer toolchain everyone will start using that. Why waste effort releasing a book that's already obsolete?

Re: Gcc-4.1

2006-04-17 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 07:15:15PM +0100, Andrew Benton wrote: Is that wise? As it stands LFS is out of date. Old gcc, old glibc, old kernel headers. As soon as trunk moves to a newer toolchain everyone will start using that. Why waste effort releasing a book that's already obsolete?

Re: User Notes - Let's Make Something Happen

2006-04-15 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Archaic wrote: On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 12:52:17PM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: So far, it's looking like all lowercase is in the lead with one vote woohoo! A landslide!! :D Mudslides are better. *drool* http://www.mixed-drink.com/Vodka/mudslide.html -- JH --

Re: Enscript Security Patch

2006-04-12 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: Apparently, uploading patches to Trac causes a change in the line ending characters (cr, lf chars). After downloading the patch from Trac, and then applying it, there are messages about it having to strip cr/lf chars from the patch. This doesn't happen applying the one

Re: Enscript Security Patch

2006-04-12 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 10:59:42AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Do you have cygwin installed? If so, you could test this behavior. BTW, this is a standard feature of a ftp transfer in ascii mode. Been around for years before Windows. Yes, I believe I have cygwin. What did you want me to do? --

Re: Enscript Security Patch

2006-04-12 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 10:59:42AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Do you have cygwin installed? If so, you could test this behavior. BTW, this is a standard feature of a ftp transfer in ascii mode. Been around for years before Windows. Btw, here's how I had intendend to test this issue. My LFS

Re: User Notes presentation

2006-03-30 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: Hi all, Though it is just my opinion, I *do not* like using the section 3 header for the User notes link. It is much too ostentatious for me. I much more preferred the simple paragraph presentation used throughout the book in *every* other place there is a link. I'm

Re: User Notes presentation

2006-03-30 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: I thought the placement on the page (where it currently is) was decided via list discussion and finalized. That was not the purpose of my message. Gotcha. Additionally, I don't believe you'll find anywhere else in the book, that a hyperlink is not contained in a

Re: X-chat 2.6.2

2006-03-27 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: However, I think patching the sources to move one server ahead of another is something we probably don't want to do. This to me seems sort of something a user needs to do, or if it can't be done without patching/sedding, then it probably doesn't need to be done. I think

Re: X-chat 2.6.2

2006-03-27 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: And to me, that doesn't include forcing folks to have a default *anything*, other than what the package maintainer does. In all seriousness, of course, you're right. Anything of that sort is out of the question for the book. -- JH --

Re: 'which' script

2006-03-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Lennon Cook wrote: type -pa $@ | head -n1 exit $PIPESTATUS The problem is that without this extra line, the script will exit with the exit status of 'head'. I thought we decided to get rid of the pipe to head? Didn't we establish that type -p or type -path is sufficient? -- JH --

Re: `backticks` or $(command) syntax

2006-03-01 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 20:35 -0600, I wrote: echo ${BIGSTRING} | sed s/^.*\($MYSTRING\).*$/\\${COUNTER}/ The word string was returned, as expected. JUSTFORBRUCE=`echo ${BIGSTRING} | sed s/^.*\($MYSTRING\).*$/\\${COUNTER}/` echo $JUSTFORBRUCE Woops, we didn't get what

Re: `backticks` or $(command) syntax

2006-02-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: Does anybody know right offhand if $(command) syntax is a bash-only thing? It appears to be. Or, at least, tcsh doesn't support it. Bash: $ echo $(ls) courierimaphieracl courierimapkeywords courierimapsubscribed courierimapuiddb cur new tmp $ tcsh: / echo $(ls)

Re: `backticks` or $(command) syntax

2006-02-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bruce Dubbs wrote: I think the replies have established that either syntax is OK with the exception of csh and probably tcsh. In my mind the constructs are interchangeable. I don't have a preference and don't think we need to have a standard for BLFS. Demonstrating both ways is educational.

Re: New BLFS Editor

2006-02-27 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Dan Nicholson wrote: Yes, one of the things on my TODO list is to pump ICA functionality into jhalfs. Shouldn't be too hard, but there are a couple subtle places to be careful of in the looping. I don't have a really strong understanding of the Makefile generation yet, so maybe we can work on

Re: Date format in Trac

2006-02-08 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Nico R. wrote: Hello, can the dates shown by Trac be modified so that they use another format, preferably -MM-DD? I'll look into it. Thanks for the report. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See

Re: Trac Issues

2006-02-05 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bruce Dubbs wrote: This is something we need to fix. I changed a line in the python script for email notifications: This: if public_cc: headers['Cc'] = ccrcpts Became: #if public_cc: headers['Cc'] = ccrcpts And now the CC's seem to be coming through to the list.

Re: trac Implementation

2006-02-04 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: I'll be starting this now. Bugzilla will be taken offline but the data will be retained. I will keep the lists advised of my progress. Trac is up and running on belgarath, accessible via the same URLs as previous. You may need to wait for the DNS to propagate before you

Re: trac Implementation

2006-02-04 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: Were you ever able to figure anything out so that you can disable getting mail, if you desire? I didn't see anything officially implemented. You can either disable or enable sending of mail to the reporter or the owner for the entire env. Nothing on an individual basis.

Re: trac Implementation

2006-02-04 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: What a shame. :-( Introductions are in order: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meet Killfile: Killfile, meet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heh. :) -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above

Re: trac Implementation

2006-02-04 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: You know, I just thought of something. I received two emails from the Trac system in the last half hour. Unfortunately, they have already been sent to /dev/null, or I would forward them on so you know what I was talking about. Anyway, there were no messages generated in

Re: trac Implementation

2006-02-04 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Anyway, there were no messages generated in -book from these items. Shouldn't all items generate a message to -book? I thought I remember you saying they would. Yes, thanks. Perhaps something is misconfigured. I'll look. From my few tests, and looking at the mail logs

Re: trac Implementation

2006-02-04 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: I still have to bring over the new bugs from Bugzilla that have been added over the past week or two, so please refrain from adding anything to Trac's ticketing system yet as it will just be wiped. It is late here now and I need some sleep. I will do this tomorrow

Re: trac Implementation

2006-02-04 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Anyway, looking forward to seeing how this will be used. Enjoy! Oh, I also meant to remind everyone that we'll need to swap out links to {blfs-,}bugs.linuxfromscratch.org to wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/[subproject] -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: trac Implementation

2006-02-03 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bruce Dubbs wrote: To do this, we will need to disable adding new bugs and modifying existing bugs on bugzilla, implement the new system, including importing all data in the different repositories and then open up the trac ticket system. There is no need to interrupt svn or the message lists.

Re: Placement of Links to the Wiki in BLFS

2006-02-01 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Richard A Downing wrote: The wording and style of the link are more important that the page position. I'd like it to stand out with a special rendering CSS. If I have to vote on a section, I'd say Command Explanations, because I suspect (but could easily be wrong) it's quite likely that the

A couple of minor nitpicks

2006-02-01 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hey there. Here's a couple of things I noticed with the book, and *very* coincidentally they go hand in hand in terms of my bringing this up. First off there's a typo (or two? I'm noticing stuff as I go) on the new BLFS Wiki page: The name of the page is 'BLFS WiKi', but I don't think the

Re: Placement of Links to the Wiki in BLFS

2006-01-31 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: After reading my response, which I rarely do (read my own messages), I can't say how much I agree with what I wrote. This will be all Heh. Sorry that just sounds funny. Do you often disagree with what you write? -- JH --

Re: GNOME IDE for Other Programming Tools

2006-01-30 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Dan Nicholson wrote: P.S. I'm loving the wiki! I've got a few ideas I'd like to add when Trac hasn't gotten fully integrated. Ideas for the wiki or ideas for BLFS? Whenever we go live with Trac, I believe we can just drop our current installation in place (minus the tickets which will need

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