Re: Dubya with Kung Fu Grip

2003-08-10 Thread TomFODW
True.  However, this current subthread started with the following:          I swear I've seen a big stone one of Lincoln, sitting down.  You mean that it WON'T come to the defense of Liberty when a rabbi writes the word on its forehead? So? He got confused, since, in the legend, the rabbi

Re: shrubCo's faith-based prison program an absolute failure

2003-08-09 Thread TomFODW
Strange mixing of words there... he is taking the same type of position as the administration.  Your words confuse the position with the degree of responsibility and the statement's impact.  Did you mean to discourage comparisons of list postings' positions with those held by people in power?

Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-07 Thread TomFODW
IOW, you (pl.) say you don't prefer it if ONLY criminals carry weapons, you (pl.) just want to change the law so everyone who carries a weapon is by definition a criminal . . . I didn't say that, and I didn't say anything about criminalizing guns. It is my belief that there are relatively

Re: Irregulars question: Milky Way

2003-08-07 Thread TomFODW
And the Milky part of it comes from a myth that it's the milk spilling out of a goddess's breast into the sky. Really? And I thought it was named after a candy bar... Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed

Re: Hyperion - The Motion Picture

2003-08-05 Thread TomFODW
Maybe I Should Read The Book Maru No maybe. I'd put Hyperion/Fall of Hyperion up there with The Anubis Gates, His Dark Materials, and just a very few others as among the ten best books I've ever read. I consider Hyperion/Fall of Hyperion to be essentially one book that got published in two

Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-04 Thread TomFODW
Display and interpret any symbol the way you wish to. If others get offended, it is their problem, not yours. As long as *all* they do is feel offended. There have been reports, for example, of Jews in some European countries being attacked for wearing kippot, stars of David, and other

Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-03 Thread TomFODW
The other edits the most important magazine of th Left.  I can't even reply to the other points, most of which seem to be personal attacks. However, The Nation is not the most important magazine of the left. It has a tiny circulation. I can't even remember the last time I snuck a peak at

Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-03 Thread TomFODW
One of the reasons that people like Rush Limbaugh are so successful at speaking to the American public is that - unlike their opponents - they _like_ the public.  I have lots of problems with Rush.  But he loves America, and he loves Americans. The American people rather like that and they

Re: Clinton's Perjury *Again* RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-08-02 Thread TomFODW
What democrats said that it was acceptable for Clinton to lie under oath? I don't know what other Democrats may have said. I never said it was acceptable for him to lie under oath. I just didn't think it was an impeachable offense. I also think he should never have been forced to face

Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination

2003-08-02 Thread TomFODW
    So her rhetoric is over-the-top, but her basic position doesn't seem too far out. The prosecution rests. Huh? What does that mean? How does what he said prove the case? It seems to me the opposite. She has been put forward as an example of an extremist whom liberals should

Re: fight hte evil of price discrimination

2003-08-01 Thread TomFODW
Let's see Tom condemn Katha Pollit once in a while. I'm not sure who she is, sorry. When Noam Chomsky says things equally bad - or worse - our liberal friends like Tom tell us that even criticizing them is censorship. I haven't said anything about him here, and I don't have to please

NYT: Weapons of Mass Confusion

2003-08-01 Thread TomFODW
From the NY Times (http://nytimes.com/2003/08/01/international/worldspecial3/01CND-GORDON.html?hp - free registration required): Weapons of Mass Confusion By MICHAEL R. GORDON CAMP DOHA, Kuwait, Aug. 1 There is a bold and entirely plausible theory that may account for the mystery over

Re: fight hte evil of price discrimination

2003-07-31 Thread TomFODW
but would start with educating people (beginning in elementary school) with the hazards associated with certain lifestyle choices - and gradually making people responsible for their own folly -- we could ~ halve the chronic disease burden with lifestyle changes But that would go against

Re: fight hte evil of price discrimination

2003-07-31 Thread TomFODW
Seriously, the ones that get the most attention seem to be more extreme one way or another.  That's probably true for any group that gets stereotyped.  Except maybe Poles.  I've never met a Pole anywhere close to being as stupid as all the jokes imply.  (Where'd they get that reputation,

Re: fight hte evil of price discrimination

2003-07-31 Thread TomFODW
Except, when a right winger makes an innocuous statement and the left wing media huffs and puffs until they blow the  issue up into whatever slight they feel gets them the best press. So liberals aren't perfect. Never said they are. Although I bet some of the statements you characterize as

Re: Harry Potter 5 (not really spoiler free anymore)

2003-07-30 Thread TomFODW
That's a good point I hadn't thought about.  Ambition is not, in and of itself, an evil trait, and it is the one Slytherin most valued.  If you can point those ambitious kids along the right path, you've got a better chance of keeping them from the Dark Arts than you would if you sent them

Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies

2003-07-30 Thread TomFODW
Restrictions on the free flow of information. The subjugation of women. Inability to accept responsibility for individual or collective failure. The extended family or clan as the basic unit of social organization. Domination by a restrictive religion. A low valuation of education. Low

Lance!

2003-07-30 Thread TomFODW
Considering the level of interest shown in the Tour de France when it started, I'm surprised to see little or no mention of the fact, now that it's over, that Lance Armstrong won his fifth in a row. This one was more stirring than the previous 4, as his triumph was in doubt until the

Re: Harry Potter 5 (no spoilers)

2003-07-29 Thread TomFODW
I enjoyed #5 immensely. I especially liked the way Rowling developed Ginny Weasley - she's turning out to be a very interesting young witch. In general, I think, Rowling does much better with her good guys than with her villains. I also liked the way a lot of stuff that happened in this novel

Re: Harry Potter 5 (no spoilers)

2003-07-29 Thread TomFODW
Generally true, but I *loved* Dolores Umbridge.  Of course, I'm about the only person who liked Luna Lovegood among people I;ve talked to, so what do I know?  :) A) I don't consider Umbridge to be completely a villain. She's certainly wrongheaded and even cruel and destructive. But she's

Re: Harry Potter 5 (no spoilers)

2003-07-29 Thread TomFODW
S P O I L E R S P A C E Just because Dolores' motives for her actions were not of the slay everyone and take over the world variety does not mean she's not a villain.  Evil doesn't have to wear a black cape and cackle maliciously in order to be evil.  I found her brand

Re: Homeland Security Issue? :-)

2003-07-28 Thread TomFODW
Democratic state lawmakers fled Texas on Tuesday for the second time in three months to thwart a Republican drive to redraw the state's congressional districts. Eleven of the 12 Democrats in the state Senate left for Albuquerque, N.M., as a first special session called by the governor to

Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment to the Constitution

2003-07-25 Thread TomFODW
    Since society's role in assigning adoptions should entirely give consdieration to the needs and rights of the child - not to the desires of the adopters, I think that society should try and meet the reasonable expectations of the child whenever possible, since of course, there is no way

Re: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment to the Constitution

2003-07-24 Thread TomFODW
Nevertheless, I would hope that everyone would be in favor of the second half.  I think that this issue is so important and controversial that it should be decided by the State Legislatures and Congress, which are elected by the people, and not written by unelected judges. As will hardly

Re: Paul Gigot on the Marsh Arabs

2003-07-23 Thread TomFODW
Many on the political left have been reluctant to concede the special brutality of Saddam, as if admitting that truth would justify a war they opposed. Some genocides are apparently more equal than others. It's true that America can't right every wrong, or depose every dictator. But the U.S.

Brin interview on Scifi.com

2003-07-22 Thread TomFODW
http://www.scifiweekly.com/issue326/interview.html Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed I'd see the last. - Dr Jerry Pournelle ___

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-18 Thread TomFODW
There is a pervasive dishonesty that has crept into this issue where we have people actively crippling American war efforts for short-term partisan advantage - and a bunch of very bright people on the list who buy that wholesale.  Oh, stop it. This is close to the Ann Coulter libel that

Re: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-17 Thread TomFODW
To me, the most bothersome thing about the 16 words is that it also happened simultaneously in Australia and England -- Howard and Blair said the same thing and now blame it on a failure of the British intelligence service.  What a coincidence that neither the British, Australian nor U.S.

Re: The Periodic Table of Dessert

2003-07-16 Thread TomFODW
http://www.eblong.com/zarf/periodic/closeup.html Ah. I've seen a different poster with the same title, that had pictures of the desserts...mmm...desserts... :::drools::: Tom Beck Sweet Tooth Maru www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always knew I'd see the first man on the

Re: Project Orion

2003-07-16 Thread TomFODW
They use a Project Orion type spaceship in the Niven/Pournelle novel Footfall to launch a military mission to the F'i'thp conquered space station. That was the first place I ever heard of Project Orion (and a lot of other unconventional weapons ideas from the past, such as Thor). Tom Beck

LXG (no spoilers)

2003-07-14 Thread TomFODW
Well...there are a _few_ semi-spoilers at the end. I was very disappointed with this movie. I thought it was surprisingly poorly made - the cinematography was dim and blurred, the editing was choppy, the action sequences were staged in a way that you could not actually see what people were

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread TomFODW
(My oldest daughter is 20 and my youngest daughter 13, so Barbie's are behind us now). They're into Malibu Stacy now?;) (Either that or they're buying real clothing for themselves, which is even more expensive. g) Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-13 Thread TomFODW
I expect that I will keep repeating myself on this subject occasionally, until I get a reality check that will tell me if I am alone in believing John C Wright, author of The Golden Age and The Phoenix Exultant is the hottest new author since Brin hit the scene. I'm a big fan of Alastair

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-11 Thread TomFODW
For the Harry Potter books, I like the UK cover art better, at least judging from Order Of The Phoenix.  And I regret the dumbing down of the book 1 title in the US by changing Philosopher's Stone to Sorceror's Stone. Me too. I have purchased all 5 books from amazon.co.uk because I preferred the

RE: Why we cast novels

2003-07-10 Thread TomFODW
I especially miss the novelty LP album covers (like my original Led Zeppelin III cover with the picture wheel in it) and the double albums with suitable-for-hanging-in-your-dorm-room trippy artwork inside.  It's a real shame: the death of the LP and the small size of CD and tape covers seem to

Re: Why we cast novels

2003-07-10 Thread TomFODW
The British edition was better than what us herms got. The cover slipped out to reveal the hanged man. It didn't for the US edition. Yes it did. At least, mine did. Unless I somehow managed to buy the British edition in a US store. -- Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org

Re: More Lies

2003-07-09 Thread TomFODW
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29766-2003Jul8.html?nav=hptop_ts Former Vermont governor Howard Dean said, The credibility of the U.S. is a precious commodity. We should all be deeply dismayed that our nation was taken to war and our reputation in the world forever tainted by

TDF

2003-07-09 Thread TomFODW
I watched the team time trial of the Tour De France today, and the US Postal Service team (incl. Lance Armstrong) came from way back to not only win but shatter the course, building up speed with every klick, eventually winning by 30 seconds. It was a stirring achievement to watch, because they

RE: TDF

2003-07-09 Thread TomFODW
Don't forget we totally beat the French! Speaking only for myself, I'm not rooting *against* anyone - I'm rooting *for* Lance Armstrong. -- Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed I'd see the last. - Dr

Re: TDF

2003-07-09 Thread TomFODW
Tom Beck: Who says a playoff series doesn't begin until the home team loses? I've never heard that. Is it in pro basketball, which isn't a real sport? Do they mean the team with the home team advantage, or the home team for each game? I suspect they mean the first but it's still a silly

Re: Speaking of sports Re: Why we cast novels

2003-07-08 Thread TomFODW
In a message dated 7/8/2003 6:09:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Speaking of sports, anyone else following the Tour de France?  If anyone who knows more about cycling than I do (which isn't very much, aside from having read Lance Armstrong's _It's Not About

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-07 Thread TomFODW
My point is that the biography does not idolize him as a person. The author idolizes him as an athlete and appreciates him as a man. But I would make the point that Kofax seems unique in his maintaining his dignity and his refusal to cash in on his celebrity. But rather then argue this I

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-06 Thread TomFODW
How about Juan Marichal? -- Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed I'd see the last. - Dr Jerry Pournelle ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-06 Thread TomFODW
But your description of him is precisely one he would agree to. That is the person that comes through in the book. He disavows anything more. When he did not pitch on Yom Kippur this was not a political act and not really a religous one (Kofax is the prototypical non-observant Jew. And yet his

Re: Sandy Kofax

2003-07-05 Thread TomFODW
No baseball for a while so I thought I might stir the pot. Just finished Jane Leavy's excellent if reverential bio. There is an unfortunate tendency among some of Koufax's admirers, especially those who have known him, to elevate him into some kind of human paragon. Granted that he appears

Re: Heterophobia in the UK

2003-06-30 Thread TomFODW
However, the changes have been criticised by human rights campaigners who complain that heterosexual non-married couples are discriminated against. Heterosexual couples will not be eligible for the registration scheme, a decision attacked by veteran gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell. Mr

Re: Heterophobia in the UK

2003-06-30 Thread TomFODW
To modify an old saying: Why buy the cow if you can get the government to give you the milk for free? I'm afraid I don't see your point. The complaint is that the UK government will, rather than permit actual legal same-sex marriage, permit gay couples certain privileges similar to marriage

Re: Heterophobia in the UK

2003-06-30 Thread TomFODW
But of course the BBC managed to find a straight couple to illustrate the issue: they have a child and live together and think the new law is a good thing; but they would like to be able to take advantage of it themselves since they don't want to get married. Why should straight people be

RE: The Brights

2003-06-24 Thread TomFODW
Legions of obese Americans and Russians and Spaniards and Canadians... Well...um...Russians were obese *long* before McDonalds invaded Moscow... Tom Beck ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The Brights

2003-06-24 Thread TomFODW
Is NOT fat.  Is extra layer of skin for keepink warm. Nyet. Eez FAT. I remember when I lived there seeing women eating containers of sour cream like it was ice cream. :::shudder::: Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I

Re: WMD

2003-06-15 Thread TomFODW
It suggests that the Americans on the list are not representative of the American public, which was my point. So? We're supposed to be? Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed I'd see the last. - Dr

Re: WMD

2003-06-13 Thread TomFODW
Tom, not to be rude, but are you even capable of discussing these things, or do you just start frothing at the mouth as soon as someone mentions George Bush? I mean, you seem like a bright and reasonable guy - right up until someone mentions a Republican and then I swear to God someone else

Re: Where are the European hypocrites?

2003-06-13 Thread TomFODW
Why is it so hard to see there's a difference there? And how come the only people in the world outside of Israel who care about the difference live in the United States, and most of them are conservatives? Well, most American Jews care quite a lot about Israel, and most of us are not

Re: Hoon soccer FOOTBALL game

2003-06-13 Thread TomFODW
Is there a name for a shot where the ball is cradled on the ankles and both legs are lifted and snapped in a whip-like motion? Yeah: Falling On Your Ass. It's vaguely similar to the bicycle kick or overhead though. Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always knew

Re: Where are the European hypocrites?

2003-06-13 Thread TomFODW
Would the Israelis be willing to give up all of their West Bank settlements at this point? If they did, would all of the Palestinians then quit calling for the annihilation of all Jews?  Would they give up their attempts to claim Jerusalem? One thing that needs to be kept in mind is

Re: Where are the European hypocrites?

2003-06-13 Thread TomFODW
The same goes for Israel. Shortly after WWII, the least unfair solution probably would have been taking a good-sized chunk of land from Germany to form a Jewish homeland, while negotiating with the Middle East world to get them visitation rights to their holy sites. Instead, Europe decided

Re: Where are the European hypocrites?

2003-06-13 Thread TomFODW
In a message dated 6/13/03 1:39:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If that is a fair assessment, then I have another question. Were any (or most) of the refugees able/permitted to return to their homes a year or so later, when their fear and uncertainty had subsided? If they were not

Re: Where are the European hypocrites?

2003-06-13 Thread TomFODW
In a message dated 6/13/03 1:46:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What right did the UN have to tell Arabs how they would be governed, or to take away their homes? The land was under UN jurisdiction, that's what right. Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always

Re: Where are the European hypocrites?

2003-06-13 Thread TomFODW
It's kind of late to worry about that now. I have trouble reconciling that statement with someone who has an interest in understanding history. Come one, how many subjugated peoples in the entirety of world        history got to vote on who ruled them? They had never voted to be  

Re: Where are the European hypocrites?

2003-06-13 Thread TomFODW
In a message dated 6/13/03 2:16:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why, specifically, could they not go to Israel in, say, late 1949 or 1950? Were they forcibly prevented? By whom? By that point, I think, the Israelis wouldn't let them back (neither would the Arab countries). And before you

Re: Where are the European hypocrites?

2003-06-13 Thread TomFODW
I suppose because the leaders of those countries were still trying to bring about Israel's destruction, and the Palestinan refugee situation seemed to them to help their cause. That's hardly a defense, as I'm sure you're aware. We're going to let you suffer indefinitely and ruin countless

Re: Iraqi Death Toll Tallied, Jobs Program Unveiled

2003-06-12 Thread TomFODW
IRAQ: $100 Million Reconstruction Fund Unveiled; Exiled Royal Returns  http://www.unfoundation.org/unwire/util/display_stories.asp?objid=34208 The U.S. civil administration in Iraq yesterday announced plans for a $100 million investment fund geared to create jobs and jump-start

Where are the European hypocrites?

2003-06-12 Thread TomFODW
Hamas is now threatening foreigners in Israel. It has warned them to leave. Obviously, they have no intention of giving a shit who is killed in their attacks - Israeli, Palestinian, Arab, foreigner - it's all the same to them. So where are those scumbag European handwringers who scream whenever

Re: WMD

2003-06-12 Thread TomFODW
Although, admittedly, having asked people who know something about this sort of thing, and read some stuff on how hard it is to find these items, I was probably overoptimistic.  But God forbid that a little knowledge or expertise would be injected into this loop. And God forbid that

Re: Lost in the Baghdad Museum: The Truth

2003-06-11 Thread TomFODW
I do wonder, at some point will the credibility of these people just evaporate?  I mean, will people say, gee, the people of Iraq _did_ celebrate when we arrived, Saddam _was_ defeated fairly easily, the country _didn't_ collapse into civil war, the museum _wasn't_ looted, and so on - at

Re: Lost in the Baghdad Museum: The Truth

2003-06-11 Thread TomFODW
You know, Tom, given your previous record on predictions in Iraq, do you think you might want to be a little more careful with statements like the above? Just a thought.  I mean, if we do find them - and I still think the odds are pretty good that we will - what will you hate Bush foreign

Re: Farts Re: World cancer death rates

2003-06-07 Thread TomFODW
In a message dated 6/7/03 5:35:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think there are stats on that sort of thing somewhere.  I've heard that cow farts account for a measurable percentage of the greenhouse gasses produced. Not cow farts - cow burps produce a lot of methane. Tom Beck

Re: (Scouted) Jared Diamond on diabetes

2003-06-05 Thread TomFODW
If Diamond et.al. are correct then we are doing ourselves a great disservice. We are specializing in a way that generally becomes dangerous for a species. It is possible to become ~too~ adapted. Shouldn't't the word be spread in these cultures that the lifestyle they are shifting to causes

Re: Supreme Court further dilutes Miranda protections

2003-06-01 Thread TomFODW
Alan Wisotsky, an attorney for Oxnard and the police officer who interrogated Martinez, said the court's ruling was a victory for persistent police work. If someone had kidnapped your child, wouldn't you want police doing everything they possibly could to get information from someone who

Re: Supreme Court further dilutes Miranda protections

2003-06-01 Thread TomFODW
Uh. I don't see how the reporter reaches this conclusion.     It seems rather obvious that someone's right to not self-incriminate is not violated if that person is never incriminated, whether by one's self or otherwise. So, in other words, as long as you are not a suspect, the police

Re: WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz

2003-06-01 Thread TomFODW
2) What is wrong with that strategy? It seems to me we are finally doing what is necessary to make the world a better place to live in, even if, especially if, you are a middle eastern Muslim. War is never the best way to solve anything. I do not believe I am mistaken when I say that I

Re: WMD

2003-05-31 Thread TomFODW
20,000 soldiers is a hell of a lot, and the US has more urgent/important things to do than sending them traipsing around the Iraqi desert sounds like a pretty good one.  Right now, at this moment, the US military is desperately overstretched.  There is a 3:1 rule for deployments - to put

Re: The Geek Test

2003-05-29 Thread TomFODW
32.34714% - Total Geek Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed I'd see the last. - Dr Jerry Pournelle ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The Geek Test

2003-05-29 Thread TomFODW
In a message dated 5/28/03 12:06:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The odd-numbered movies suck, the even-numbered movies are good. To wit: Star Trek I, TPM - Not good. Star Trek III, TSfS - Not good I liked III - the scene where the Enterprise explodes in space and then they cut to

Re: The Geek Test

2003-05-29 Thread TomFODW
Interesting that so far nobody on this list is any higher than low 40% Geekiness. I'm not sure if that's a bad thing or a good thing... Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed I'd see the last. - Dr Jerry

Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator

2003-04-02 Thread TomFODW
  MARINES facing battle are being asked to pray for President Bush (...) serious Bah. Really religious people should be praying for _Saddam_ too. /serious Reminds me of the line from Fiddler On The Roof: Villager: Rabbi, is there a blessing for the Tsar? Rabbi: A blessing for the

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread TomFODW
They don't need to match the USA 1:1 for GDP either...just production where it counts (military, etc.) - they'll be prefectly willing to sacrifice civilian standards of life for tactical advantage. They'll be perfectly willing to TRY. I'm not sure they'll be able to get away with it for

Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator

2003-04-02 Thread TomFODW
On that note, that should be really religious _Christians_. Judaism has never had any kind of principle for turn the other cheek. It's more an eye for an eye. Except the rabbinical commentators always stated that the law didn't *really* demand such strict retribution. I'm not a Torah or

Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-01 Thread TomFODW
In a message dated 4/1/03 6:36:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, and the was the Embargo! 12 years of siege warfare against Iraq to prevent Saddam from buying weapons, and now we know that the _only_ think that Saddam bought in this period was... weapons. Again, it's a false

Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-03-31 Thread TomFODW
In a message dated 3/31/03 7:13:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In other words - do you reject all preventive actions? In which case it seems to me that your argument is that we should wait until _after_ New York is destroyed to do something.  As a New Yorker, I disagree, and not terribly

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