Re: Stus-List Mast boot and keel bolts

No need to walk the plank, it’s the old Valiant 40s that glassed the keelbolts. . . > On Feb 12, 2018, at 11:11 12AM, Brien Sadler via CnC-List > wrote: > > To clarify so the C&C owner's group doesn't try to Keelhaul, flog, or have my > surveyor walk the plank. He didn't suggest the epoxy.

Re: Stus-List Battery power

One thing that should not be overlooked is that your big alternator could hardly ever be used at full power. Your batteries won’t absorb even half of that in the last 20% of the charging capacity. Since you have solar, you can use it for long (and slow) final charging. Also, your alternator may

Re: Stus-List Battery power

Not as far as inverter control, it’s manufacturer-specific; Heart Interface became Xantrex years ago. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Feb 12, 2018, at 4:50 PM, svrebeccaleah via CnC-List > wrote: > > Fred, will th

Re: Stus-List Hard bimini?

I got a quote for over 5000 for a hard Bimini smaller than yours! A dock neighbor had one made from starboard. Looked pretty nice. On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:50 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Had my hard top made by Canvas Creations but I heard that the owner died.

Re: Stus-List Hard bimini?

Had my hard top made by Canvas Creations but I heard that the owner died. Compared to your quote I got ripped off. I think I paid about $3500. He worked with me extensively to get the height and window angles maximized for functionality and ergonomics. I'm a little mixed on the asthetics though.

Re: Stus-List Portable generator question

200w solar insulation. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yLXU5RzRyWjZXTDA On Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 8:14 PM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi Josh, > > Just curious, what batteries do you have in your bank, and where are they > mounted? > > Am I right t

Re: Stus-List Portable generator question

Bruce, The PO put two 4D batteries in the compartment under the stbd settee just forward of the sink. They were shot when I purchased the boat and I needed something to get me 350 miles home. Not being familiar with the local chandleries I found myself in the nearest AutoZone. 3 of the largest

Re: Stus-List Portable generator question

Hi Josh, Just curious, what batteries do you have in your bank, and where are they mounted?  Am I right to presume that having more charge capacity would result in shorter battery life? Just trying to size my eventual solar panel purchase. Thanks! Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm.

Stus-List Hard bimini?

Hello all, I am considering replacing our sunbrella bimini with a hard top version to make it so that we won't have to replace it again (at least not in my boat ownership lifetime) and to provide a smooth base for mounting semi-flexible solar panels.  Have any of you done this yourself? I found

Re: Stus-List Practical Sailor

Jim: I'll take the ones form 2016 and 2017. You can give them to me when I sail up on the Oregon Offshore in May. Alan Alan On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I have about 30 years of PS, going back to 1987, sorted, catalogued, and > box

Re: Stus-List Shifter Cable

Awesome Chuck! Thank you so much for the info. and the other guys as well, when I get back to the boat I have some work to do, I will keep you guys posted and again Thanks! On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 7:36 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > No need to disassemble the t

Stus-List Source for Kracor Tank Inspection Port Caps

Hello all, After striking out at our local RV store and online searches, I called Kracor tanks.  They told me in no uncertain terms they only work with boat manufacturers, not individuals.  They tried to tell me to call C&C.  Finally I got connected with someone back in the shop who directed me

Re: Stus-List Shifter Cable

No need to disassemble the top or bottom of the pedestal..Read the directions below unless you enjoy making extra work for yourself. Yes you need to take off the compass. And you may need to loosen the steering cables enough to buy yourself some space to take the chain off the sprocket. (make

Re: Stus-List Mast boot and keel bolts

Brien, As a fellow submariner, I sympathize about water in the people tank. During off-season, I get a small amount in my bilge and have taken a few steps to limit this. The first thing is to put something in the luff track to divert/stop the down the mast. When winterizing the boat, I pump

Re: Stus-List Portable generator question

In my experience, if you ALWAYS put fuel conditioner in the gas you put in the generator you won't have gumming problems. I never seem to know wen i'll use a small engine next so I always use fuel conditioner. Ken H. On Monday, 12 February 2018, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Practical Sailor

I have about 30 years of PS, going back to 1987, sorted, catalogued, and boxed. I have offered them here before, and no takers. I'm going to put them in the Free section of UsedVictoria.com and see if someone local wants them. Otherwise, it's definitely recycling time. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C

Re: Stus-List Portable generator question

Thanks Bill, that's a good insight.  Just keeping gum out of the generator would be a big win in my opinion. We'll be adding solar to the bimini sometime in the future (probably late this year or early next year), but down here in Florida, if we're out cruising and not at a dock (the transient s

Re: Stus-List Shifter Cable

I see what you saying, I hope I can get it out, the hookup inside the pedestal it looks like I have to disassemble the pedestal not easy job what I can see. On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Shifter/throttle cables are available from West

Re: Stus-List Shifter Cable

Yes is do goes through the pedestal down below and across the bottom. I left the marina awhile go I'll be back in two weeks and I will take some pictures. On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:23 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > What is the structure of your pedestal? Does t

Re: Stus-List Shifter Cable

Edson engine control instructions here: http://www.edsonmarine.com/support/PDFs/installation/EB396EngineControlInstr.PDF Last page contains instructions for replacing the cables. Important note: do it like it says in the instructions. It is not intuitive and if you “wing it” you’ll be disa

Re: Stus-List Battery power

Not only explained simply, it's memorable. Thanks Josh,  Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 5:44 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery power First, I complete

Re: Stus-List Shifter Cable

Shifter/throttle cables are available from West Marine. Replace both. Get one of the old ones out and take it to WM for replacement options. Use the single remaining cable to fish the 2 new cables in. In my case I had to remove the compass and pretty well disassemble the top of the pedestal. Th

Re: Stus-List Shifter Cable

What is the structure of your pedestal?  Does the shift cable go through the pedestal itself, or through stainless tubes running down the outside of the pedestal and through the pedestal feet?  It will make a huge difference.  A photo link would be helpful. Kindest Regards,  Bruce Whitmore 1994

Stus-List Shifter Cable

Need help from the guru C&C people here please! I need to replace the shifter cable from my cc 33 I don't know the length, haven't got it out yet it looks like is a PITA! anyone here had replaced one before that can give me some advice where can I get one? And how can I get that darn thing out, sp

Re: Stus-List Battery power

Fred, will the link 2000 work on a Prosine 2.5 inverter/charger?  Doug Mountjoy Rebecca Leah LF39 POYC  Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List Date: 2/12/18 12:39 (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street

Re: Stus-List Mast boot and keel bolts

Not sure I agree with “Freezing is a valid concern”. It has worried me, but I have had frozen water in my bilge every winter I have owned the boat and it has not caused any problems that I know of. I rationalize this as an effect of water expanding along the path of least resistance, so should

Re: Stus-List Battery power

First, I completely agree with everyone else about amp hours and meters and the sort. But Just looking at the voltage, the easiest way is to think of the available capacity as 1 volt from 11.7v to 12.7v. Each 0.1 (tenth) of a volt is roughly equal to 10% of usable capacity. *Long winded exp

Re: Stus-List Mast boot and keel bolts

Put a garboard drain in the lowest part of your bilge. Just keep it open in the winter so anything that gets in drains out. Bill Coleman C&C 39 Original message From: Brien Sadler via CnC-List Date: 2/12/18 16:38 (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Brien Sadler

Re: Stus-List Mast boot and keel bolts

Freezing is a valid concern. If storing on the hard, many people have installed a garboard drain. An alternative for in or out of the water is the arid bilge product at the link below. It is an impressively effective display at the boat show but it carries an equally impressive price point as I

Stus-List WiFi gateway (again)

All, Having been unsuccesful getting my iKommunicate to communicate with my other toys, I was looking at this: http://www.yachtd.com/products/wifi_gateway.html Has anyone used this?Looks so simple, even I can use it. -- Joel 301 541 8551

Stus-List Junk Mail

Hey, can anyone tell me why half of my list emails go to junk mail folder and the rest to my inbox. Anyone else have this problem? Thanks, Paul Hood C&C34 '81 416.799.5549 c ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Eac

Re: Stus-List Mast boot and keel bolts

The only reason I worry about the mast leak is water in the bilge in the winter. It’s probably from being a submariner for close to 20 years, that in my mind water in the bilge is a big “No No”. I don’t want it turning to ice and causing problems. I have a bottle that catches most of the water t

Re: Stus-List Battery power

David, I don’t know much about the LinkPro, so I can’t say how it shows you data (but I bet Street-Smarts Fred Street can.) On my Link 2000, it shows me time left at the current draw. For example, if I put on my cabin LEDs, it shows 250 hours. When I put on my running lights, I’ll see 230 hour

Re: Stus-List Battery power

If you use more than 50% of the battery, the lifespan drops but you also get more AH per $. Solar energy studies showed the best cost per AH came in at using cheap golf cart batteries and running them very hard – up to 80%C. I use gels that last longer and cost way more. They die very fast when

Re: Stus-List Battery power

Hi Edd- I have considered one of those devices, but it seems you have to still have to know the rate of draw of the refridgerator,fans,lights and what is the acceptable lowest voltage/charge of the house battery. I guess that device will tell you the rate of draw in amps. If I know those param

Re: Stus-List Toe Rail water drain/ now wicks

Great solution Dennis, as usual! For the rest of us, I’d like to point out Dennis may have painted his boat red, to go with his wick? On my “beater boat ” we use a ripped terrycloth rag, works just fine in rainy Seattle and looks “natural”, turns green in a week. Very happy to have the m

Re: Stus-List Portable generator question

I found certain retailers of the Honda 2000 will sell you one converted to run on propane from gasoline. Like the propane dinghy outboards (Lehr), NO gum in the fuel system. There is a cost from lower BTU in propane than gasoline, but if you already use propane for the Magma, you have the fuel (h

Re: Stus-List Battery power

If you don’t have a Xantrex charger/inverter, I’d suggest the Xantrex LinkPRO instead of the Link 2000: http://www.xantrex.com/power-products/power-accessories/linkpro-battery-monitor.aspx It’s very reasonab

Re: Stus-List Portable generator question

I keep the Honda 2000 generator in my Sail locker with the gas cap vent closed for use as a back up charger and to power the single cup Keurig when we’re on the hook. Much quieter than firing up the diesel. If I need to run it, it goes forward to the bow and as mentioned, can barely be heard i

Re: Stus-List Battery power

David, While there are calculations you can use, rate of battery discharge is also affected by battery age and temperature. And, since I’m really, really good at spending other people’s money, I’d suggest installing a Battery Monitoring System: https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C

Re: Stus-List Short Cruise!

Literally. From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 3:16 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bruce Whitmore Subject: Re: Stus-List Short Cruise! Not to be funny, but where that boat grounded they could walk to shore... Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@

Re: Stus-List Short Cruise!

Not to be funny, but where that boat grounded they could walk to shore...  Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net From: David via CnC-List To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Cc: David Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 8:24 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Short Cruise!

Re: Stus-List Battery power

David, You need to calculate the amp/hours the fridge uses to know how long you can run it before drawing your battery below the appropriate SOC. Even if its on, its not running all the time. Somewhere I have a spreadsheet that estimates all of my daily power needs. Its on a different computer,

Re: Stus-List Battery power

This discussion raises an issue I have struggled with as I have started cruising more: deciding how much battery power I have. I have 2 AGM batteries, one house, one starting and a panel voltmeter for monitoring. My batteries are now separated so I no longer have to worry about being able to

Re: Stus-List Portable generator question

Damian, The Hondas and Yamahas seemed to be highly regarded. When I race/cruise offshore with the fridge, autopilot, plotter etc we run the engine about an hour a day to charge the house bank with a 60 amp alternator. Unless you are already carrying gas for a dinghy you might want to reconsider

Re: Stus-List Portable generator question

Another thought - get solar. My measly 50 watt panel cuts my engine run time by 2/3s if the only reason I have to run it is charging. Solar is not real expensive anymore. Joe Coquina ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.

Re: Stus-List Portable generator question

That would be incredibly dangerous to say the least! Those gensets should NEVER be below for ANY reason! They obviously contain gasoline and were never designed to be stored in a relatively sealed compartment with people, electrical gear, and open flames. For actually trying to run an air-cooled

Re: Stus-List Portable generator question

Much of your problem is a matter of battery capacity as much as a matter of charging capacity. I have ~450 Ah of capacity on one bank, a 90 Amp alternator that never reaches full load, and 200 watts of solar. Even without the solar I was able to comfortably keep the the fridge running and the lig

Re: Stus-List Owners Manuals

Jack, The PayPal link is (usually) at the bottom of the message (PayPal to send contribution - https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Portable generator question

Doug & Damian I have been thinking in similar lines of the Honda 2000i or so. What I have been playing with is a design for my C&C 35 MkI where the generator would sit below the Starboard cockpit hatch just behind where others have put a refrigeration system for the ice box.

Re: Stus-List Owners Manuals

Stu Just placed an order for the manual for my C&C 39. However, there is not a paypal link on the order form. Advise how to proceed. Best regards, Jack Fitzgerald C&C 39 TM HONEY US12788 Savannah,GA USA 260 Oatland Island Road, Savannah, GA 31410 USA Tel. no: 912 898.1069 - Fax no: 912 898.9458

Re: Stus-List Mast boot and keel bolts

To clarify so the C&C owner's group doesn't try to Keelhaul, flog, or have my surveyor walk the plank. He didn't suggest the epoxy. It was the only information I had found in my limited search for a solution to "seal the keel bolts" in accordance with his recommendation. I asked the question here b

Re: Stus-List Portable generator question

I occasionally use a Honda 2000i, on longer cruises, but try not to use it in an anchorage in the evening or after dark if there are any other boats there as, while it is very quite, it isn't silent and most of our anchorages are. When in use I usually put the Honda in the inflatable and let the i

Re: Stus-List Mast boot and keel bolts

It is easy to mistake mast leakage into the bilge as keel bolt leakage. There are also plenty of other water tanks that leak and can mislead you into thinking that the bolts are leaking. If after all of the investigation reveals that they are in fact leaking, the only right way to correct the prob

Stus-List Owners Manuals

In regards to Ben's email -- the manuals are still available online. I did receive his order, but to date, I have not seen his check.    Part of this problem is that the checks are delivered to my Canadian address where we reside  April to December.  The other times, we are in Florida.  My mail is

Re: Stus-List Mast boot and keel bolts

Rob, Thanks for the response. The surveyor didn't make a recommendation at all on how to "seal" them. The nuts are exposed and I have no signs of water intrusion in or out of the bilge through the keel bolts (i.e. damp line where the keel meets the stub or water coming in the boat while in the wa

Re: Stus-List Portable generator question

I use a Honda 2000i companion (has 30 amp plug) as a backup power source. At least until I get my solar up and running. The Honda is quiet and wind disturb neighbors in anchorage. I would Put the honda on the bow and not hear it in the cockpit. The 2000 will also power a hot water heater, or 150

Stus-List Mast boot and keel bolts

Brien: You can have a mast boot sealed with a good tape and put a little bead of caulking/silicone etc. in the mast trackthat show solve that problem however you will never keep all the water out from the mast sheaves, etcthere will always be a drip inside the mast in a rain. Regardi

Re: Stus-List Mast boot and keel bolts

Do NOT epoxy over the keel bolts. The surveyor needs to be keelhauled for that idea. Sealed stainless = corrosion AND how the would you ever be able to tighten them or inspect them ever again? Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Brien Sadler via

Stus-List Mast boot and keel bolts

I'm sure both of these topics have been covered before, but A) any suggestions on keeping the little bit of water that drips down the mast from coming in at all? I'd like to seal it up completely (old submariner habit of trying to keep all the water out of the people tank.) B) When I had the boat

Stus-List Portable generator question

A question for your collective wisdom: I am scoping out upgrading my stock 55A alternator to a 100A Balmar, and related upgrades to the controls. I had a very productive discussion with Rod Collins at Compass Marine (mainesail), and we worked out the details. Unfortunately he's booked out throug

Re: Stus-List Owners manuals

Hi Ben, I had the exact same question exactly two years ago. The answer is be patient :) The list administrator Stu Murray winters in Florida in an RV, and won’t get back to Canada (where your check is sitting in his mailbox) for a month or two. No worries, Stu is dependable. Cheers, Randy

Stus-List Practical Sailor

Greetings! I have about 15 years or so of Practical Sailor magazines that I need to get rid off. If someone wants them, please drop me a line. You can pick them up in case you're in Annapolis area or I can ship if the shipping cost is paid. Otherwise, they might get recycled soon... Cheers, Aa

Stus-List Owners manuals

Many of you may be aware of the ability to order owners manuals from the cncphotoalbum website. I filled out a form for one and send a cheque as instructed. The cheque was never cashed and the manual download never sent. Does anyone know of this is totally defunct or not. Ben Sutton Evangeline C&

Re: Stus-List Toe Rail water drain

The "kitchen cloth" from Trader Joe's is a synthetic chamois that works amazingly in for this purpose. $3.99 for 2 pack. We usually cut each one in half (so you have 4 per pack) and use them around the boat and house. They

Re: Stus-List Insurance

Joe, I could have made a claim for a 30 y/o chute? Damn! Joel Virus-free. www.avg.com

Re: Stus-List Insurance

This is fairly standard. If the engine dies, you are on your own to fix it. If it dies and the boat goes on the rocks, you are covered. Joe Coquina BTW - Our endorsement to sail to Bermuda went up something like $50 to $500 over time because of people claiming ripped up sails according to our ag

Re: Stus-List Removing Cetol

I second Dennis’s prescription. It does not need much heat, but a good scraper is key. Don’t waist your time with a cheap metal blade scraper. Get a Bahco #665 ($25 on Amazon) which has a tungsten carbide blade. The blade will literally last you a lifetime without the need to sharpen.

Re: Stus-List Short Cruise!

How's the saying go? Mistakes are what happens when you don't have expirience. Expirience is what you get from making mistakes. Bruce, I'm glad you chimed in cause all I could think was, There are 2 types of sailors - those who have run aground and those who will. I've heard advice from world c

Re: Stus-List Short Cruise!

I cant help but thinking that given their lack of experience, gear, preparation, and age of boat...the fact that they got away alive is a blessing. If not then, it might be next time. These things do not happen in a vacuum and some other event will more than likely befall them again if they d

Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ window replacement

The other thing we found out when we did our windows was that the Plexus that had been used to install the original windows was so hard and tightly bonded to the fiberglass that it made a fine substrate to adhere to using the 3M VHB tape.  Thus, the complaints others have mentioned about having

Re: Stus-List Toe Rail water drain

I used cotton lamp wick like this: https://www.amazon.com/Paraffin-Kerosene-Lanterns-Genuine-Superior/dp/B01BYLYQYY/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_201_tr_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=BGACPVC704NHP4827AC3&dpID=51iI62A7ikL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=detail I just folded it over a couple times and stitched it so

Re: Stus-List Toe Rail water drain

I never had much luck with cellulose sponges.  For me, the natural sponges work much better. Just my $.02 worth,  Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Eac

Re: Stus-List Short Cruise!

I go in & out of John's Pass most weekends, and saw the boat laying on its side on Saturday.  Very sad.  There's a few things I've learned from the local reports, however.  1).  The couple was relying on charts to identify the bouys.  That doesn't here.  They move the markers in the pass some

Re: Stus-List Short Cruise!

‘Click bait’ Dave 33-2 windstar Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 11, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Josh Muckley wrote: > > News article seemed more focused on deminishing them and their limited > preparations than actually focusing on what caused them to run aground. It > did address that they had recent c