Re: Debian Jessie : regular console instead of a hi-res one!

2016-09-17 Thread Felix Miata
rhkra...@gmail.com composed on 2016-09-15 07:28 (UTC-0400): ... my only reason for writing is to suggest (to the OP) that he consider using a fairly inexpensive digital flat screen tv as his monitor. I currently use a 1080P 32" T that I bought for under $200 (on sale, somewhere, sometime,

Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again.

2016-09-17 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 09/17/2016 03:37 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 09/15/2016 12:50 AM, Ric Moore wrote: On 09/14/2016 04:10 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Thank you upstream developing and packaging team for replacing the effected packages. Yay! These packages have now been upgraded in Sid, 'gir1.2-gtk-3.0,

Re: Primary and secondary school education in free software

2016-09-17 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/17/16, Ben Finney wrote: > Howdy all, > > Does anyone know people skilled in education curricula – teachers and > those who write such curricula – also passionate about software freedom? > > I am wanting to find people skilled in producing primary and secondary > school

Re: Como detectar defeitos de hardware?

2016-09-17 Thread Rodrigo Cunha
Guimarães, não acho que fui troll com vc, acredito que as pessoas estão confundindo as coisas.Caso eu tenha ofendido a sua pessoa, peço desculpas, não foi minha intenção. Meu objetivo na lista é utilizar o que sei para que a maioria das pessoas consigam resolver problemas com linux, o qual sou

Re: Boot Debian via PXE without Internet connection

2016-09-17 Thread Valerio
Hi, thanks for your feedback. I managed to successfully to boot the .iso via memdisk but now the problem is that i cannot preseed the installation as the machine boots. I have two options: - either I hack the iso and set a default preseed - I backtrack and use the netinst installation by

Primary and secondary school education in free software

2016-09-17 Thread Ben Finney
Howdy all, Does anyone know people skilled in education curricula – teachers and those who write such curricula – also passionate about software freedom? I am wanting to find people skilled in producing primary and secondary school curricula, who would be interested in working to make material

Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs!

2016-09-17 Thread Shervin Emami
At "www.debian.org" I clicked on "Getting Debian", and then to get a net install image there are 3 different pages that all have direct links to the ISO files, but no link at all about how to get the MD5sums. Even the Verify page doesn't show how to find the MD5sums. So I think it will help many

Re: Como detectar defeitos de hardware?

2016-09-17 Thread Rodolfo
, desculpa pela falta de mulher, essa parte foi só uma piada mesmo, o resto, deixa pra lá. Em 17 de setembro de 2016 21:15, Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA, Leandro < l...@dutras.org> escreveu: > 2016-09-17 22:07 GMT-03:00 Rodolfo : > > Não é trolagem, o Guimarãs Dutra

Re: Como detectar defeitos de hardware?

2016-09-17 Thread Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA , Leandro
2016-09-17 19:05 GMT-03:00 Rodrigo Cunha : > Continuo achando que o guimarães falou uma bobagem, mas isso não tem nada Se for só uma fico aliviado, mas mesmo assim queria saber qual. -- skype:leandro.gfc.dutra?chat Yahoo!: ymsgr:sendIM?lgcdutra +55 (61) 3546

Re: Como detectar defeitos de hardware?

2016-09-17 Thread Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA , Leandro
2016-09-17 22:07 GMT-03:00 Rodolfo : > Não é trolagem, o Guimarãs Dutra geralmente responde assim Acho que o /troll/ aí não fui eu. Ou então não entendo o que é /troll/. > direto e sem pensar nas consequências do que escreve Pelo contrário, estou pensando justamente nas

Re: Como detectar defeitos de hardware?

2016-09-17 Thread Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA , Leandro
2016-09-17 17:57 GMT-03:00 Wagner Anghinoni Nardin : > De fato o Debian tem seus problemas com placas de vídeo Intel Não, pelo contrário: os adaptadores de vídeo Intel são os melhor suportados há anos. A Intel, até onde sei, é a única que documenta as informações

Re: Como detectar defeitos de hardware?

2016-09-17 Thread Rodolfo
Não é trolagem, o Guimarãs Dutra geralmente responde assim, direto e sem pensar nas consequências do que escreve, tipo aquele cara que ta cansado de falar sempre a mesma coisa pra alguém e começa a falar de maneira direta, que muitas vezes parece grosseria ou uma máquina que responde só o

Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs!

2016-09-17 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 18/09/16 11:33, Shervin Emami wrote: Am I just not noticing the obvious link, or does the Debian website really not give the info about how to verify checksums? Shervin, it seemed obvious to me. The checksum files are at the top of the download directory listing [1]. Starting at

Re: Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs!

2016-09-17 Thread der.hans
Am 18. Sep, 2016 schwätzte Shervin Emami so: moin moin Shervin, Which specific ISO were you downloading? Where did you get the link to the image? The main download site does have checksum files right alongside the ISO images. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/

Re: Sound on Jessie

2016-09-17 Thread Felix Miata
Lisi Reisz composed on 2016-09-17 11:56 (UTC+0100): Alan McConnell wrote: Alas for the days of wheezy, when everything _worked_!! Wheezy is LTS (though admittedly more successfully for servers), so if everything Just Worked, and you liked it, why did you change? There are indeed valid

Re: Sound on Jessie

2016-09-17 Thread Felix Miata
Lisi Reisz composed on 2016-09-17 11:56 (UTC+0100): Alan McConnell wrote: Alas for the days of wheezy, when everything _worked_!! Wheezy is LTS (though admittedly more successfully for servers), so if everything Just Worked, and you liked it, why did you change? There are indeed valid

Very hard to find MD5 checksum of Debian CDs!

2016-09-17 Thread Shervin Emami
Hi, I've been using Debian for about 6 years now, but today I went to download Debian Jessie from the "debian.org" website and realized there doesn't seem to be any link on any of the pages to show what the MD5 checksum is of the Debian installation CDs! I looked through many of the official

Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again.

2016-09-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 17 September 2016 23:37:31 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > A fixed release cycle sucks, > where not getting some bugs fixed, just a new system every 2 years and > it seems to have started with Wheezy Just one of the attempts to please the Ubuntu crowd. :-(( Lisi

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread deloptes
Alan McConnell wrote: > 0 [PCH            ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH > HDA Intel PCH at 0xdf32 irq 142 > 1 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia > HDA NVidia at 0xdf08 irq 17 > > I have no idea what the above means.  Presumably one or both are > functional. So which one is your

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread deloptes
Lisi Reisz wrote: > He keeps saying that he is using Jessie.  Why do you think he is using > Ubuntu? Sorry I seem to have misread something.

Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again.

2016-09-17 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 09/15/2016 09:58 AM, Joe wrote: On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 03:50:21 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: On 09/14/2016 04:10 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 09/01/2016 08:51 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or right click and Search is

Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again.

2016-09-17 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 09/15/2016 12:50 AM, Ric Moore wrote: On 09/14/2016 04:10 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Thank you upstream developing and packaging team for replacing the effected packages. Yay! These packages have now been upgraded in Sid, 'gir1.2-gtk-3.0, libgtk-3-0. libgtk-3-bin. libgtk-3-common' if you

Re: Como detectar defeitos de hardware?

2016-09-17 Thread Rodrigo Cunha
Srs. Eu não achei que foi trollagem não, na verdade foi uma discussão técnica meio ríspida. Lógico que em um ambiente em que vc conhece a pessoa pessoalmente ou tem algum tipo de laço afetivo, você geralmente mede mais as palavras. Mas eu não acho que foi trollagem, só uma discussão técnica mais

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 17 September 2016 21:58:55 Alan McConnell wrote: > I tried to install alsa.  No result -- I think it is already installed. By what method did you try and what reason have you to think that it is already installed? (I am troubleshooting, not carping.) Lisi

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 17 September 2016 17:17:55 deloptes wrote: > Now that we know Alan is using Ubuntu, he could even try ubuntu live in > former or current version to compare. He keeps saying that he is using Jessie. Why do you think he is using Ubuntu? Lisi

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 17 September 2016 14:43:04 Alan McConnell wrote: > Alas for the days of wheezy, when everything _worked_!! Wheezy is LTS (though admittedly more successfully for servers), so if everything Just Worked, and you liked it, why did you change? There are indeed valid reasons, but what

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 17 September 2016 14:03:36 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, September 17, 2016 03:56:20 AM Joe wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 08:57:12 +0200 > > > > deloptes wrote: > > > Joe we are not doing advertisements for this or that distro. > > > > 'Advertisement'?

Re: libnss3, currently in testing

2016-09-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 17 September 2016 10:34:17 claude juif wrote: > 2016-09-09 13:36 GMT+02:00 Gene Heskett : > > On Thursday 08 September 2016 19:02:31 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > On Thu, 08 Sep 2016, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Has anyone an idea of a schedule of

Re: Como detectar defeitos de hardware?

2016-09-17 Thread Chinabhz
Crianças, não briguem por minha causa! Tenho 25 anos de profissão sendo 20 só com gnu/Linux, por isso simplesmente ignorei mensagens falando bobagem ou de quem não leu o texto original e recomendo todos ajam assim pra evitar esse tipo de desgaste. Mas recomendo fortemente aos envolvidos

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread Alan McConnell
- Original Message - From: "Joe" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 3:47:10 PM Subject: Re: Sound on jessie On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 12:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Alan McConnell wrote: > > This suggests to me, and I

Re: Como detectar defeitos de hardware?

2016-09-17 Thread Wagner Anghinoni Nardin
De fato o Debian tem seus problemas com placas de vídeo Intel, mas, não são problemas do sistema, ele apenas não instala todos os aplicativos necessários para ela, você deve instalar manualmente. Os motivos normalmente são as licenças de uso, pois o debian trabalha apenas com aplicativos 100%

Re: Difficulties with Firefox/iceweasel

2016-09-17 Thread Alan McConnell
- Original Message - From: "Felix Miata" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 1:26:23 PM Subject: Re: Difficulties with Firefox/iceweasel Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-17 13:05 (UTC-0400): > I'll have to log in as root to do

Re: Como detectar defeitos de hardware?

2016-09-17 Thread Chinabhz
Em 17 de setembro de 2016 09:53:55 BRT, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh escreveu: > >Atualiza a BIOS dela, e instala o pacote intel-microcode da non-free. > Eu entrei na bios pra ver informações sobre a placa mãe e sair procurando a atualização quando vi que as configurações de

Re: Como detectar defeitos de hardware?

2016-09-17 Thread Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA , Leandro
2016-09-17 14:53 GMT-03:00 Rodrigo Cunha : > > >Mais simples ainda: Ctrl+Alt+F1 deve dar um terminal virtual (console). > Errado, se vc tiver um console num pc com a placa de video ruim vai ter erros > de imagem no monitor. Gerralmente não, embora possa acontecer. >

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread Joe
On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 12:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Alan McConnell wrote: > > This suggests to me, and I hope to my readers here, that > there is something wrong with the way alsa works, or doesn't work, > here. I can't imagine what the difficulty is, since the cogent >

Boot Debian via PXE without Internet connection

2016-09-17 Thread Valerio
Hi all, I recently started playing around to install Debian via PXE. I successfully managed to install the netinst version following the documentation available at https://wiki.debian.org/PXEBootInstall. Now I'd like to understand how to boot any debian ISO. For instance, suppose that on my PXE

Re: Boot Debian via PXE without Internet connection

2016-09-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Valerio wrote: > suppose that on my PXE server I havedebian-8.5.0-amd64-CD-1.iso, [...] > More generally, suppose I create my own iso (with build-simple-cdd), how > can I install it via PXE? I guess this is what you need: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php?title=MEMDISK (I never tested

Re: Difficulties with Firefox/iceweasel

2016-09-17 Thread Felix Miata
Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-17 13:05 (UTC-0400): During my experimentation with Iceweasel, described in another post, I have received warnings from the OS that /tmp was filling up. It seems that when running a video a buffer is opened in /tmp, and /tmp fills up rapidly. At the moment,

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread Felix Miata
Alan McConnell composed on 2016-09-17 09:43 (UTC-0400): Alan, who is pleased at least to be able to get on line from his jessie install Those who helped, and those who use Google, deserve an update to the original thread explaining that you solved the problem, and as best you can, how you

Re: Como detectar defeitos de hardware?

2016-09-17 Thread Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA , Leandro
2016-09-17 13:54 GMT-03:00 Rodrigo Cunha : > > 1º: O proposito dessa instalação, qual é?Se for desktop utilize uma versão > feita para isso. Debian foi feito para isso. Mas qual versão não estava em questão. > 2º:Se caso for laboratorio para servidor, utilize um

Re: New Dell Inspiron: Screen flicker

2016-09-17 Thread Felix Miata
Harris composed on 2016-09-17 09:38 (UTC-0400): Felix Miata wrote: Harris composed on 2016-09-17 08:57 (UTC): I just got a new Dell laptop to replace my former one that I ran Debian on with no issues -- unfortunately with this one, the screen flickers when I have it at essentially the

Difficulties with Firefox/iceweasel

2016-09-17 Thread Alan McConnell
During my experimentation with Iceweasel, described in another post, I have received warnings from the OS that /tmp was filling up. It seems that when running a video a buffer is opened in /tmp, and /tmp fills up rapidly. At the moment, df /tmp tells me that 3% of /tmp is used. When I'm trying

Re: Como detectar defeitos de hardware?

2016-09-17 Thread Rodrigo Cunha
Vamos por partes. 1º: O proposito dessa instalação, qual é?Se for desktop utilize uma versão feita para isso. 2º:Se caso for laboratorio para servidor, utilize um debian. 3º: Qual é o erro no ubuntu?Tem que ver se sua iso é compativel com o CPU, Intel ou amd... ...mas existem alguns comandos. sudo

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread Alan McConnell
- Original Message - From: "deloptes" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:17:55 PM Subject: Re: Sound on jessie Alan McConnell wrote: > > > - Original Message - > From: "Anthony Baldwin" > To:

Firefox Crash

2016-09-17 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hi, since a few weeks I see frequent firefox crashes. Even with a fresh configuration directory, I get rd@blackbox:~$ mv .mozilla/ .mozilla.bak rd@blackbox:~$ firefox Vector smash protection is enabled. ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment.

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread deloptes
Alan McConnell wrote: > > > - Original Message - > From: "Anthony Baldwin" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:56:48 AM > Subject: Re: Sound on jessie > > > I was having a similar problem just last week after an

Re: Dubtes sobre instal·lació de paquets específics de Sid. -- RESOLT --

2016-09-17 Thread Robert Marsellés
Hola, Escric per deixar-ne constància (per si mai algú necessita informació). On 16/09/16 09:04, Jordi Mallach wrote: > > En lloc de fer-ho manualment, es pot fer amb apt: > > cat > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/default-release.conf << EOF > APT::Default-Release "stretch"; > EOF > > cat >

Re: Longstanding rsync script no longer excludes - SOLVED

2016-09-17 Thread Clive Menzies
On 17/09/16 13:32, Mike Bird wrote $rsync $rsync_opts $password FileServer::rsync \ /home/backup/home/ > /var/rsync/FileServer.$NOW.log I don't see where the $excludes you built is actually used. On 17/09/16 13:44, Clive Menzies wrote: The script wasn't changed and I've always

Re: libnss3, currently in testing

2016-09-17 Thread claude juif
2016-09-09 13:36 GMT+02:00 Gene Heskett : > On Thursday 08 September 2016 19:02:31 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > On Thu, 08 Sep 2016, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Has anyone an idea of a schedule of when that will put this security > > > update into the wheezy

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 09/17/2016 09:43 AM, Alan McConnell wrote: - Original Message - From: "Anthony Baldwin" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:56:48 AM Subject: Re: Sound on jessie I was having a similar problem just last week after an

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread Alan McConnell
- Original Message - From: "Anthony Baldwin" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:56:48 AM Subject: Re: Sound on jessie I was having a similar problem just last week after an update>safe upgrade.. After scratching my head for

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, September 17, 2016 03:56:20 AM Joe wrote: > On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 08:57:12 +0200 > > deloptes wrote: > > Joe we are not doing advertisements for this or that distro. > > 'Advertisement'? I'm recommending something I've found to be a useful > troubleshooting tool,

Re: Como detectar defeitos de hardware?

2016-09-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 17 Sep 2016, Chinabhz wrote: > Estou instalando debian em um computador antigo de um vizinho. É um > quad core Q3000 com 2GB de RAM e placa de vídeo Intel integrada. A > máquina não tem nada demais e funciona a 5 anos com Windows 7. Atualiza a BIOS dela, e instala o pacote intel-microcode

Re: Longstanding rsync script no longer excludes

2016-09-17 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 17-09-2016 07:42, Clive Menzies wrote: > > Hi > > One of the issues we've encountered following a recent Jessie upgrade, > (around 5th September) is an rsync script seems to have changed behaviour. > > We've been using rsync for a daily automated incremental backup and > have three scripts to

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread Anthony Baldwin
On 09/17/2016 02:57 AM, deloptes wrote: Joe wrote: On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:44:09 -0400 (EDT) Alan McConnell wrote: For some reason, my sound doesn't work on my new machine with its present jessie install. It worked on my old machine(which had jessie) and it works fine here on

Re: Como detectar defeitos de hardware?

2016-09-17 Thread Gabriel Ricardo
No dmesg não relata nada? Atenciosamente, *Gabriel Ricardo* Fone: +55 41 88817828 Skype: gabriel.nerdworkti Em 17 de setembro de 2016 08:53, Chinabhz escreveu: > Colegas, bom dia! > > Estou instalando debian em um computador antigo de um vizinho. É um quad > core Q3000

Re: New Dell Inspiron: Screen flicker

2016-09-17 Thread Felix Miata
Harris composed on 2016-09-17 08:57 (UTC): > I just got a new Dell laptop to replace my former one that I ran Debian on > with no issues -- unfortunately with this one, the screen flickers when I > have it at essentially the next-to-highest brightness setting. I say > "essentially" because it

Re: New Dell Inspiron: Screen flicker

2016-09-17 Thread Felix Miata
Harris composed on 2016-09-17 08:57 (UTC): I just got a new Dell laptop to replace my former one that I ran Debian on with no issues -- unfortunately with this one, the screen flickers when I have it at essentially the next-to-highest brightness setting. I say "essentially" because it happens

Como detectar defeitos de hardware?

2016-09-17 Thread Chinabhz
Colegas, bom dia! Estou instalando debian em um computador antigo de um vizinho. É um quad core Q3000 com 2GB de RAM e placa de vídeo Intel integrada. A máquina não tem nada demais e funciona a 5 anos com Windows 7. Durante a instalação do Debian testing vida netinst o processo foi tranquilo,

Longstanding rsync script no longer excludes

2016-09-17 Thread Clive Menzies
Hi One of the issues we've encountered following a recent Jessie upgrade, (around 5th September) is an rsync script seems to have changed behaviour. We've been using rsync for a daily automated incremental backup and have three scripts to maintain an archive of daily snapshots for a week;

Problem with dpkg-source -b outside current working dir

2016-09-17 Thread Malte Forkel
Hi, according to the man page, dpkg-source -b takes an argument that is "the name of the directory containing the debianized source tree". But that does not work for me if the directory is not the current working directory. When is execute dpkg-source in the package's source directory, i.e.

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread Joe
On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 08:57:12 +0200 deloptes wrote: > > > > Joe we are not doing advertisements for this or that distro. 'Advertisement'? I'm recommending something I've found to be a useful troubleshooting tool, over many years. It is of no use as a permanent

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
First try which amixer and if that isn't found, download alsa-utils. Next sudo -H amixer set Master 85%;alsactl store On Sat, 17 Sep 2016, deloptes wrote: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 02:57:12 From: deloptes To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Sound on jessie

Re: Sound on jessie

2016-09-17 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:44:09 -0400 (EDT) > Alan McConnell wrote: > >> For some reason, my sound doesn't work on my new machine with its >> present jessie install. It worked on my old machine(which had >> jessie) and it works fine here on Windoze(I use youtube to play

Re: How to arrange for booting to console

2016-09-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Fri, 16 Sep 2016, David Wright wrote: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:38:31 From: David Wright Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: How to arrange for booting to console Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:43:51 + (UTC)