Re: [slim] PicorePlayer + internet browser
Sorry! I'm in Windows... Installation Instructions on piCorePlayer 1.19+ Copy these two files to /mnt/mmcblk0p2/tce/optional on the piCorePlayer sd card. There's enough free space on the default image to add the jivelite files. If you've installed other packages you might need to increase the size of the ext4 partition mmcblk0p2. https://github.com/ralph-irving/tcz-jivelite/raw/master/jivelite.tcz https://github.com/ralph-irving/tcz-jivelite/raw/master/jivelite.tcz.md5.txt thanks Phil (stroke victim) You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104074 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 : 24/96 capable?
jmx;692236 Wrote: I'm starting to catch on. So with the SBTouch, LMS won't need to transcode 24/96, but will transcode anything above that (eg. 24/192). Does SoX need a lot of mem or CPU? I have a 2GB Win7 dell zino as my server. I'm interested in seeing if I can tell the diff between a downsampled 24/96 and one that is decoded natively. The bottom line is this: will 24/96 content sound better on a SBT or a SB3? fwiw, speakers are on the way Thanks for the info! - jmx Your computer will be fine for SOX. Just try playing a 24/96 track right now - it should handle it automatically unless you've done any silly fiddling with LMS File Type settings... All content sounds better on a Touch than the SB3 (a bit better - not life-changing!) + What Soulkeeper said. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93763 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Gapless playback no longer working properly
rpieket;691816 Wrote: My Squeezebox Boom has been the main conduit for music in my home for some three years years. I have several of them throughout the house, all synced with each other, and it's been great. My server runs on OS X Lion. However recently I have noticed a new problem. When playing back a gapless album, in particular a continuous DJ mix album, there is a noticeable transition between the tracks. It's not so much a gap, rather an unevenness in the tempo. Like the new track is slightly delayed. This used to work great. My music library has not changed. Gapless albums that previously played back fine, now have awkward track transitions. I suspect this was introduced in a recent server software or firmware upgrade. * Is Logitech aware of this? Has anyone else noticed it? * Is a fix in the making? * Is it the server or the firmware? * What is the last version of the server or firmware that did not have this problem, and how to I revert to that version? -Ron. Is the Boom synced to something else? - I don't think synced playback can be gapless... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93714 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Airplay Speaker
erland;690619 Wrote: I wonder if they have really licensed it, when searching the net and also the fact that they call it NetAux and not AirPlay, it kind of feels like they have an unauthorized reverse engineered solution. They certainly didn't plan to license it one and a half year ago: http://blogs.linn.co.uk/giladt/2010/09/its-not-an-apple-world-its-a-networked-world.php However, I guess Linn can take the cost if Apple requires them to officially license it, it's a bit different for Logitech and its devices for $299 and less. I really don't think that Linn would risk legal action by Apple! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to go from digital optical output to XLR digital input?
http://www.murraypro.com/spdif-tos.htm -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93438 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
toby10;672016 Wrote: Yeah, but most of his stuff is like the Partridge Family, David Soul, the Osmonds, Kiki Di, the Carpenters, etc ;) What's wrong with Kiki Dee and the Carpenters? (if you want to hear great songwriting, production and arrangement, listen to the Carpenters - seriously) Kiki Dee's first 2 albums on Rocket are both great too. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
toby10;672105 Wrote: Now if you want to hear an arrangement bordering on heavenly I'd suggest: The original pressing (as pictured) of this album is legendary - only 1 copy is known to exist and has been lodged for safekeeping in the Vatican vaults, but the recent remaster fell victim to the Quietness Wars, for which we should all be grateful. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I don't want to pay for trackstat !
briank;665541 Wrote: -1 I disagree. Erland's excellent plugins provide the tools to create the (IMHO) close-to-ultimate smart music selection system (short of actually determining your taste by reading your mind or using the if you liked X then you'll probably like Y because other people who liked X like Y Spotify-type shared rating model). I have written a simple SQL playlist (using his plugins) that randomly plays songs but unrated songs are played most frequently, 5 star songs next most frequently, 4 star next, etc. 1 star songs are never played. For me, this is the perfect system: - no decision to make when you want to listen to music - new (i.e. unrated) and more favoured songs are played more frequently - you can always rediscover any songs (except those banished to 1 star oblivion) and re-rate them if you want This is why I have donated for Erland's plugins in the past but, I have to admit, probably not enough considering I that almost all my listening is via this playlist :( Or you could simply enjoy MIP or random mixes of your entire collection having deleted/archived any 1 or 2 star stuff... I bet once you have rated something 1 or 2 you never listen to it again - so it might as well be removed from the collection. So the 1-5 scheme basically resolves into good or not good - and you might as well just jettison the not good stuff. That's what I do. YMMV. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I don't want to pay for trackstat !
castalla;664663 Wrote: A bit off topic - but it all seems a bit of a storm in a teacup. What real world use is a track rating system anyway - it's sort of like OCD trainspotting in my book. If I rate a track as rubbish, borderline, uninteresting, then I just dump it. I also recognise what are '5 star' albums, tracks, etc. without the need for a statistic. I suppose if you have 1000s of tracks then you might need some rating system - but then how often are you going to actually listen to 1 or 2 star tracks anyway? Seems a rather esoteric feature to be part of the core system. I'd rather Logitech spent their time and resources developing a usable equaliser plugin. Just my 2 eurocents worth. +1 Life is too short to rate tracks... And rating tracks is actually the antithesis of music discovery, especially if you are going to use ratings to seed random playlists. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I don't want to pay for trackstat !
http://echr.coe.int/NR/rdonlyres/97564258-437D-4FFD-A54D-2766DE255CCA/0/DG2ENHRHAND102007.pdf http://www.ilaw.com.au/public/licencearticle.html , in particular: Estoppel There may be scope to argue that a licensor is precluded from changing the licence conditions on software if he or she misled the licensee into relying on the continuance of the existing terms in the knowledge that the licensee would be detrimentally affected by that reliance if the terms were changed. The argument would be based on a legal doctrine called estoppel, which can prohibit you from exercising your legal rights - in this case, the right to change the licence conditions - if you have allowed someone else to rely on the fact that you wouldn't exercise those rights. In light of the rhetoric that is often bandied about to the effect of Once GPL, always GPL, circumstances could well exist in which this argument would be quite persuasive. The question is, can estoppel restrict a licensor from changing their licence conditions to the user community as a whole, or only one particular licensee? Probably only the latter, since it is generally impossible to demonstrate reliance, which is one of the elements of estoppel, except on a case-by-case basis. 59 This reduces the usefulness of the estoppel argument to combat the withdrawal of open source licensing of a package that is in widespread use. At best, one open source licensee's victory will cause the licensor to reconsider enforcing the new license terms against other former licensees. Another limitation of the estoppel argument is that a court would not necessarily compensate a licensee who had been misled into relying on the continuity of an open source licence by requiring the licensor to reinstate that license; it would be equally open for the court simply to order the licensor to pay damages. Those damages might be negligible unless the licensee has significant business interests riding on the use of the package. ... Just to be clear, I have no issue with Erland choosing to charge people for his work going forward - that is his inalienable right. However, nobody SHOULD provide anything - under licence or under contract - for free or for a price - and then disable it or disable it until a fee is paid... UNLESS it was spelled out at the time of supply (i.e. as a Licence/contract term) that this could or would happen. I'm not saying anyone should or even could sue anyone - that's just silly. I was talking about the general case of retrospective modification of contract or license terms which is normally something only Governments can do with impunity... !! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I don't want to pay for trackstat !
socistep;664506 Wrote: ok so legally there is a potential conflict, what are you going to do next? Your options look like 1) Legally take it further 2) Write your own version of the plugins which is legally correct and keep them free fully in your control 3) use previous versions of plugins which are still free 4) Swallow the conflict and pay for the plugins Despite the legal issue I'm still sticking with 4) 3 and 4 are the only options that make sense. IF I used and wanted to carry on using Trackstat (which I don't) I'd go for 4. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Gapped playback? (playback with gaps between tracks)
garym;664515 Wrote: I'm not much help here, but I know that some rippers have options of removing, adding, etc. gaps. I highly recommend dbpoweramp as a CD ripper for FLAC. At least in my case, it addresses gaps perfectly with no special setting. That is, if it is a live concert or pink floyd, etc. with no gaps, it rips (and plays back on SB) with no gaps. If it is a track that was meant to have a gap, it is there on playback. good luck This is all true for rips for commercial CD's, but vinyl rips tend not to have silence at the end of each track (mostly because the inter-track gap on the original vinyl is full of clicks and pops...) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91049 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I don't want to pay for trackstat !
cunobelinus;664263 Wrote: Charging is fine. Charge new customers by all means (or old customers who want to add new plug ins) but not for goods already supplied. However, if I understand this correctly, the intention is to charge retrospectively. Charging retrospectively for a commodity - any commodity - that was initially provided in return for good will or an optional donation is at best exploitative, and seems to me to be actually dishonest. The initial terms of supply constitute an agreement or contract. Changing them retrospectively is at the very least to act in bad faith. Id be surprised if it is not also illegal in pretty much any legal code one would care to research. On 18 Oct 2011, at 16:46, aubuti wrote: grzlhmpf;664066 Wrote: I have donated to quite a few projects in the past and will continue to do so, so i am not opposed to paying and/or donating but i don't think this is going to work. You may think the old approach of depending on voluntary donations was working, but apparently it wasn't working for Erland, or he wouldn't have changed it. It's not surprising to me that it wasn't sustainable for the author. I'm glad he decided to try giving the commercial approach a go rather than simply deciding to pack it in. Do you think that would work better? It's also not surprising that for some users, any price higher than free will be too much. But I'm also sure that some new users will be sufficiently interested and willing to pay, maybe after they find out what the plugins and applets do. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90975 Under EU law it is indeed illegal to disable or otherwise distrain or deprive one of the enjoyment of goods or services that were supplied previously under one set of terms - in this case for free - UNLESS it was made plain in writing at the time of the original supply that a defined-cost charge or a defined expiry would become effective at a defined date in the future. This is to avoid consumers being held to ransom or suckered-in. However, in this case (software) it only applies to a defined version of the plugin - the last one freely published prior to the introduction of a notified charge. So while it is perfectly valid to introduce a charge for new versions, it cannot legally be applied retrospectively. The consumer ALWAYS has the right to continue to enjoy the old, free version or CHOOSE to pay for the new version. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeplay / Autoswitch sample rates?
paul.raulerson;662843 Wrote: Wow- a bit cynical there aren't we? Mostly there is no local store carrying the Squeezebox Touch, or as far as i can see, any Squeezebox products, so there is no way at all to hear one before buying. You may say that $300 is not that much money, and it isn't I suppose, but it is above my try this on a lark threshold. The little Squeezeplayer software sounds pretty good, though nothing at all like the software I normally use. I had to force it out through a USB Dac on a Mac, rather than through the Mac's built in audio outputs. If you want cynicism, I wonder really how well a $300 chunk of gear can sound, even avoiding the DAC in the gear and taking the signal out digitally to a decent DAC. Since they don't have them in stock on the Logitech site, I also wonder if they are selling like hotcakes, or if a new model is about to debut for Christmas. I really think I want to order and test one, but I also want the option of sending it back if a new model comes out in two weeks, or in the unlikely chance I just really don't like it. Also, it is a non-trivial task to make my online music library available to it, since it is currently in iTunes and has a bot of 30K tracks in it. And all in AIFF format, but NOT all with embedded artwork. I don't suppose there is an easy way to get iTunes to drive a Squeezebox? If it (A Logitech Touch device) operates like the Squeezeplayer, the remote interface on my iPhone is really nice and quick. About as good as Apple's Remote, but without the need to put a Mac or PC anyplace we want sound. Any particular reason that Logitech doesn't want to finish the software and sell it at $99 a pop or something? That would seem to make sense. The current software emulator is, if I correctly understand, a forever beta product, and it is useful to get an idea of what a Squeezebox is and does, but not so useful to get an idea of how one sounds. At least, I don't think so. I have been known to be wrong once or twice, which is why I -asked-. I would love to hear your opinion on the above subjects, but honestly, I don't need the SA crap if that is all you are interested in. Yours, -Paul I wasn't being cynical, merely pointing out a fact. The whole reason the SB line of products exist is to absolutely avoid having to use any kind of PC as a player or audio source. The Touch as a player sonically exceeds what is possible with a computer connected to a DAC via USB or s/pdif. The server software essentially transmits TCP packets to the player and thus the server computer only has to behave as a computer (which it is very good at) and not as an audio source (which it is usually rather poor at). This means that the considerations of things like Amarra are irrelevant to the SB experience. The server operating system and hardware simply isn't any part of what you hear. SBS integrates with iTunes (sort of) and the two can co-exist. SBS can play AIFF files (although most Mac people would use ALAC). To summarise; using Squeezeplay gives you a vague idea of what the system is capable of in terms of functionality (although really you need to use iPeng or Squeezepad on an iPad/Phone for the fully immersive UI experience). However, audio quality is not usually comparable; Touch with internal DAC or external DAC will exceed what most people can achieve with Squeezeplay and a computer. Squeezeplay will never be released as a finished commercial product AFAIK. It will continue to have very limited capabilities compared to a hardware player. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeplay / Autoswitch sample rates?
Mnyb;662875 Wrote: Amarra , they are in my snake oil list , read the manual they seriously says that email on the same computer as used for music can impact sound quality :) Mad as a box of frogs. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeplay / Autoswitch sample rates?
no... You can't get a free squeezebox by using a PC instead. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] audiocd.iso.wv file, how to play it?
maggior;660592 Wrote: You'll have to convert it to something the squeezebox can deal with. The squeezebox can deal with WavePack (wv) files, but not iso. Here's an article that may help: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=79456pid=694634st=25#entry694634 I would suggest using something like foobar2000 to convert the WavePack file to wave. Then you can use something like 7zip or WinRar to extract the contents of the ISO file - which will probably be individual wave files. Then, encode these files to FLAC for playback on your system. Basically, this iso.wv formatting is VERY unconventional and it will be an uphill battle for you if you keep it in that format. Foobar 2k can convert a wavpack directly to individual flac files :-) There is NO loss of anyhting in this process. One beauty of Squeezebox playback is that the flac files will play back gaplessly. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90658 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What's your favorite device for remotely controlling your Squeezebox?
iPeng on iPad is fantastic. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86866 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Certain file types disabled on new server
JJZolx;658988 Wrote: I think this may be incorrect. (But please correct me if I'm wrong). 1. By default, the convert.conf file is set up to use SoX (7.5) or Flac plus SoX (7.6), not Flac only, to stream WAV in Flac format. If you add flac.exe to the system to do the encoding, then you need to add or change the conversion rule. Typically this is done by creating a custom-convert.conf file containing the rule. It could be that the standard convert.conf file that ships with the SheevaPlug distribution specifies using only Flac, but if flac.exe isn't included with the distro then it seems unlikely. 2. If flac.exe is unavailable, then the server should stream WAV as PCM natively using the default settings, so requires no changes to the File Types settings. I don't understand why wouldn't play. I was assuming 7.6... and yes I should have said it requires FLAC.exe AND SOX.exe... WAV will not stream BY DEFAULT unless both are available (in 7.6) You'd have to enable WAV-PCM in Filetypes -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90471 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Certain file types disabled on new server
On a normal setup both f lac.exe and sox.exe will be present and wav will stream as flac, following the convert.conf precedence rules. To be honest I have no idea what happens if those two apps are missing... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90471 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Big Party
MrSinatra;658808 Wrote: when you do RG, there's only two gain tag frames/fields, track and album. thats it. (and two peak files that go with them to avoid clipping). all smart gain does is pick which one to use, based on upcoming playlist. thats it. so all its designed to do, is keep the user from manually having to switch between track or album [gain]. And it does it perfectly. Just set SMARTGAIN and be happy :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90336 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Certain file types disabled on new server
by default WAV is streamed as flac and needs flac.exe to transcode... you need to change filetypes to stream wav as PCM... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90471 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Big Party
JJZolx;657983 Wrote: No, there are definitely 10 streams going out over the network. Each player must be sent its own stream. There's only one conversion process, though. All streams send data from that one process. If the network bandwidth used to send one 16/44.1 PCM stream is 1.411 Mbps, then streaming to 10 players requires 14.11 Mbps. Yes that is what I meant. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90336 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Big Party
pcourtney;657984 Wrote: 2 reasons, one because we can, a fast ethernet network should be able to handle this, no other users or computers, just my iPad, and 10 receivers, if SBS cannot handle it, then I reckon SBS has much bigger problems with the whole architecture of how it's been coded in the first place, and two because the 1gb USB drive he has given me to look at is chock full of wav files, a lot these are old vinyl LP's that have been ripped to a hard drive using the clever little USB PhonoPlus http://solodeals.com/USB-PhonoPlus-V2-ARTcessory/M/B000BBGCCI.htm and all the cracks, pops and noise removed, along with replaygain etc apparently is was a labour of love that took him over a year to do 500 albums. http://gnormalize.sourceforge.net/ I have now bought one of these USB PhonoPlus jobbies to rip some of my old vinyl, but I don't think I will be taking as much care, just nice to have them on the NAS for a rainy day :-) The default behaviour of SBS is to stream WAV files on disk as FLAC over the network (with a single conversion at the server end if all players are synched)... unless you manually change this. I was simply asking why you would change this to stream 10 lots of WAV over the network instead of 10 lots of FLAC - you seem to be going to some trouble for zero benefit (and potentially network bandwidth issues, although that may not affect you). The format of the files on disk is irrelevant. SBS can handle it fine, but many peoples networks (maybe not yours) could have an issue. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90336 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Big Party
Blisteringblue;658066 Wrote: I'm no audiophile in any shape or form but I am an IT man and have to agree with this one. Surely in a party environment the music is a secondary event anyway? People are there to celebrate a wedding, eat, drink and socialise? They are not going to notice (or I suspect care) if the music is streamed as 320k MP3 or fully loaded WAV files? While I can see it is a big bash sounds like the host wants to impress his guests, but surely nothing wrong with MP3 in that environment? From the available data, very few people on the planet can reliably tell the difference between streamed 320kbs mp3 and flac. Of those, only a very tiny percentage even claim to be able to hear any difference between an SB playing streamed flac or streamed WAV... and their case is not borne out by any available measurement techniques. You are playing these files in mono. That's going to have a much bigger impact on the sound quality than the streaming format in some cases. Just monoing (via cables or SOX) stereo files into mono will seriously mess up some of them (i.e. the ones with out-of-phase l/r components - many tracks from 1967-75 can surprise you). Anyway, enjoy the party! As others have said, I'd stream as FLAC or MP3 for a stress-free party... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90336 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Big Party
pcourtney;657557 Wrote: good to know, just a quickie, is that also the case if I am streaming WAV to the ten SB Receivers ( no flac or sox ) , and the receiver just receives the wav and decodes to PCM natively ? Yes it is true, but why on earth would you want to stream wav in this party setup? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90336 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] AAC and gapless
They should play gapless on SB...it uses a special version of faad. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90356 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Control your SqueezeBox or Transporter with Foobar2000
annoyingmouse;657483 Wrote: Just bought a Squeezebox and I am interested in using the version of foosq this with support for columns ui. Does anyone have a copy of it I could download? Alternatively does anybody know if there is another way of using foobar to control my squeezebox. Despite all the tags in my music being fine when using foobar I don't like the way they are used by squeezebox server control. I'm also not particularly happy about the fact that when I add music I have to completely refresh the database (which seems to take about 20 minutes) to do something that is instant in foobar. Would this still be an issue with the foosq available here? (i.e. Would it still be using the squeezebox server library?) Thanks in advance for any help You don't need to wait to play new music... Just use the Browse Music Folder option... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79575 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Several Problems
stewa;654317 Wrote: Hi I have a Squeezebox 3 and a Duet connected to Squeezebox server running on WHS 2011. I recently moved from a PogoPlug ARM setup to WHS 2011 to try and get around a number of problems I have been having for a period of time. However moving the server does not seem to have fixed the problems. Problems 1) When I go start the SB 3 ( which is connected to my main Hi-Fi setup ) it regularly has to be powered off before it will connect to the server. I normally have to do this to the Duet Receiver as well. 2) My network gets flooded and I have to restart the SB 3. The SB 3 seems to flood the network. Whilst the network being flooded other activities on the network come to a grinding halt and Music on the Squeezebox only plays for a few seconds every minute. 3) This is more of a general issue than a problem. The system is just not wife friendly. Every time I go to show my wife how to use the system, something goes wrong or the interface on the web or controllers are too complex to be wife or family friendly. I have had the system for several years but have had varying problems over the years which have left me feeling that the solution it not really consumer friendly. b.t.w. I have worked in IT for over 20 years, so do not have any issues with setting the system up etc. If I could at least resolve the issue where having to restart the SB 3 and Receiver frequently then I might be able to persuade the family to use the system. Thanks Try giving the SB3 and the Server static IP addresses. Also make sure that either the SB3 or the Server is WIRED to the router -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90044 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] another computer on the network
gruntwolla;654399 Wrote: Hi folks, I've installed Squeezeserver on my wife's laptop, which is on my network,and all is good. What I cannot sem to get my head around though, is how to access the server on the laptop from my desktop computer.OS is Windows 7 on both. The laptop is connected ok, because I can play music wirelessly. The reason I ask is I'm considering getting a sheevaplug to run all my squeezeboxen, and I want to get any networking issues clear in my head before proceeding. I relise this is not exactly a squeezebox issue, but I know there are a lot of knowledgeable,helpful people on these forums,so if anyone could point me in the right direction, that would be much appreciated, Trev Just install Squeezeplay on the desktop... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90057 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] another computer on the network
andynormancx;654410 Wrote: Try opening a web browser and typing http://servername:9000/; into the address bar (where servername is the name of your wife's laptop). If that doesn't work then use the IP address of the server instead of the name. That will let the OP control the server - but it isn't a player. I'm not sure what the OP wants to do... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90057 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] another computer on the network
andynormancx;654414 Wrote: Given that he didn't mention playback at all, I thought I'd keep things as simple as possible. :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90057 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to make musicIP work
Don't do that! Set it to only import mixable status and point SBS at your flac folder as the music library. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89962 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to make musicIP work
paul44birch;654202 Wrote: Thanks, but can you explain why? The following are the instructions from the Integrating MusicIP with Sqeezecentre(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Integrating_MusicIP_with_SqueezeCenter) configure SC to use MiP and remove any references in SC's setup to the library path - SC will take its cue from MiP's database and it will traverse the paths to your audio files as referenced in the MiP DB and find your artwork etc. SC will still take Artist, album and Track data from the audio files themselves. This approach also potentially eliminates SC doing a triple scan - 1st the MiP database, then the folders/ files it points to and then the path you've pointed to in SC's library path. As far as I can ascertain, the last scan would be redundant and just adds to your scanning time which we all know and love as it is :) MusicIP would not work until I did this. What aubuti said... Because it works if you do that! :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89962 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to make musicIP work
aubuti;654230 Wrote: You should reinstate the library path _and_ set MIP/SBS to only import mixable status. I don't have SBS in front of me right now so I can't tell you exactly where that setting is, or even if it's on the MusicIP headless interface or the SBS interface. Then do a full rescan... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89962 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] still have MusicIP confusion
aubuti;654217 Wrote: even though some instructions say to leave the music library folder location blank when using musicip, that never worked for me. I now set mine to check for mixable status only, and i enter the path to my library in the sbs settings. It works that way and finds all my tracks, so i don't question it much. Maybe the scanning is slower (or maybe it isnt?), but i'll take a slower scan that gets everything instead of a faster scan that only gets a subset any day. Why is like this? I haven't clue. Some people seem to have it working without entering the music path in the settings, but why argue with your past success? Go back to the way you had it and enjoy. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90034 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Will it ever be possible... ?
...For a DLNA-capable hardware client / player to connect to SBS in the same way that SB hardware does? - by which I mean, it would be able to be controlled via (say) iPeng or the Web UI and take advantage of the SBS infrastructure such as server-side transcoding? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89911 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Will it ever be possible... ?
pippin;653033 Wrote: No. At least if you are talking about players that are ONLY capable of DLNA. What would a player need? SlimProto support? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89911 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Will it ever be possible... ?
It would be neat if Logitech would licence SlimProto to other hardware vendors... or even better, if someone were to write an adapter (and I use that term very loosely) that would allow other hardware to emulate a SlimProto-device. Just a pipedream. It's just that I don't see any post-Touch hardware arriving any time soon and I NEED all of the SBS bells whistles. I'm not unhappy with the Touch (far from it) but I like to have a future path - or future options - and I'm not sure what that is. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89911 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down
pippin;644706 Wrote: You can't replace IR remotes with Apps. An App is not responsive enough. The Apps excel at more complex tasks (browsing stuff, searching) but they are an epic fail if you look at your TV screen and just want to get rid of a lousy commercial ASAP since you first have to unlock your device, connect to Wifi... you get the point. +100 I know lots of people with Harmony One's and wild horses wouldn't get them to replace the instant response of hard buttons (which you can use WITHOUT LOOKING at the device and taking your eyes off the TV/movie screen) with an App of any sort. The two are simply chalk and cheese... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89129 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?
MrSinatra;644211 Wrote: ... ps. i would also like to see a RG pre-amp so a user can adjust the 89db reference level. this is available in winamp. That would be a great enhancement request... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88971 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down
erland;644392 Wrote: ... I wonder if I should get an Harmony One while it still exists... Hopefully they will just drop the Revue and invest those resources on Squeezebox and Harmony improvements instead :-) I've just bought 2 more Harmony One's as backups - they are one of the best devices I've ever bought! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89129 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down
tamanaco;644543 Wrote: Interesting an equivalent price drop for the existing SB Touch would not be out of line. Btw, I think the review for $99 is a better deal than buying a Harmony One. Correct me if I'm wrong... because I've not read the specs of the Revue in a while. But... if I remember correctly, the Harmony Remote engine is already in the Revue along with IR blasters. All you need are the Harmony discrete codes for your model Squeezebox and AV system to control everything with the Revue remote. The Revue and the Harmony One are completely different animals... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89129 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What's the Connection? Community and Logitech
castalla;644551 Wrote: The ongoing 7.6 fiasco set me thinking. Just what is the connection between this Forum and Logitech? Just seems that some posters here seem to have 'insider' knowledge, and certainly the Logitech support staff often direct queries here. I think some clarificaton of any 'relationships' would be useful for many users. Why do you care? This is NOT the official Logitech support forum; AndyG and Michael Herger are Logitech employees / devs who post here as does Mickey Gee (occasionally). A lot of vital work goes through this forum in terms of beta testing software and hardware. Also, third-party plugins are supported through here. Some of us have been on here for many years and have an in-depth knowledge of various aspects of the products. This is a self-help forum and one of the best of its kind IME. It is NOT the place for unproductive emotional rants or moaning about bugs or other matters - that should go on the official forum. What else do you need to know? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89142 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?
JJZolx;642715 Wrote: I've been using ReplayGain consistently for about the past six months. My library is in Flac and I've added RG tags, both track and album, to all tracks in the library. Typically, for background listening I have a Transporter (living room), an SB2 (kitchen), and a Radio (bathroom) kept in sync. All of them are set to 'Smart Gain'. My experience has been that ReplayGain is much less effective than I'd anticipated, and only offers some nominal degree of volume normalization. Particularly when listening to Random Mix, I'm still constantly fiddling with volume on the player in the room that I'm in. If someone were to sneak in and disable ReplayGain on all players, I'm not sure I'd notice. Your experience? Never had that experience; never felt the need to reach for the volume after initially setting it for a session (except to gradually turn it up of course! - never to turn it down). Are you sure RG is active on your setup/player? :-) I don't keep switching between radio and library so the difference in relative levels doesn't bug me. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88971 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?
servies;643850 Wrote: What happens if you have your volume set at 100% and the track that's playing has a replaygain value of (par example) +8 dB Nothing bad or odd will happen. The playback volume and the RG tag value calculations are unrelated. If RG was +8, the track would be rather quiet, peaking at circa -81dB... so even after RG boost of +8 it will now be peaking at 89dB... RG cannot induce clipping if calculated properly. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88971 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?
servies;643914 Wrote: Ok, I was under the impression that with the playback volume set to 100% there was no room for replaygain to make it louder... Just to reiterate, RG tries to make everything the same level (usually 89dB)... and that happens BEFORE the digital volume control - which can only make things quieter - is applied, not after. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88971 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do you continue to use your Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 Question: Why do you continue to use Squeezebox ? - I'm satisfied with the Squeezebox system, why change something that works good ? - I have already invested too much in Squeezebox devices, would cost too much to switch - I have just purchased a new Squeezebox and won't switch to something else anytime soon - I love the 3rd party plugin/app model and would only switch to something else that supports this - I would consider switching if someone offered something with similar functionality - I have already started to look for something else but haven't found anything interesting yet - I have already started or completed the transition to something else SBS is great (despite its quirks). SB sound quality is really very, very good. Price/performance ratio is excellent. DLNA+generic client = no thanks! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SPDIF output levels and volume settings
Are you using the TC as a DAC? - The problem is certainly within the TC or more likely whatever the TC is connected to. S/PDIF cannot distort or overload in the conventional sense, because there is nothing higher than 0dB so if the distortion goes away when you lower the volume it must be distorting in the analogue chain. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88835 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SPDIF output levels and volume settings
Pascal Hibon;641446 Wrote: Yes Im using the TC as a DAC for my SB3. The TC is a professional device that has very high headroom. Distortion is maybe not the correct wording. It is difficult to describe; maybe saturation is a better word. Vocals are usually the material where this saturation is easiest to hear when it happens. Im struck by the fact that the signal output of the SPDIF is so high (with some songs). Ill try to compare them with the original CD connected to the TC to investigate if there is a signal strength difference. Yes but what is the TC feeding its analogue output into? (I'm familiar with TC gear). Do you have all of the DSP functions of the TC (like the limiter etc) turned off? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88835 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SPDIF output levels and volume settings
Pascal Hibon;641460 Wrote: Yes, all DSP functions in the TC are off. There is nothing in the TC that is further amplifying the SPDIF signal. The TCs output is fed into a Cambridge Audio 840E preamp which should be able to handle it. My bet is that the TC output is slightly too hot for the Cambridge - all the evidence points to that. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88835 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Switching Between Server MySqueezebox.com
I don't understand why you would keep switching... if you have a proper SBS server, why not use it all the time? MSB is really for people without local servers. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88600 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter and bitrate @ 96, any way to confirm?
lcouplin;640269 Wrote: have Duet, and Squeezebox, just bought Transporter SE. I have downloaded FLAC @ 24/96. How do i know that the Transporter is decoding at 24/96, is there a display function i cannot find, or do we just trust the technology? Well, if you can't clearly hear that it is playing back at 96kHz (which it does - unless you have bitrate limiting enabled)... :-) Trust your ears... All SB devices are always 24-bit by the way. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88738 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Non Logitech squeezebox alternative
billytkid;638038 Wrote: Does anyone read the actual text in the post??! My point is that as its android and you can get the app it IS in effect a Squeezebox No it isn't. Squeezebox is bespoke audio HARDWARE, not just a generic computer running an app. Not saying it might not be useful...but it isn't a Squeezebox. Neither is a PC (etc) running Squeezeplay. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88462 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What The **** Do I Need?
iTunes = iVirus. Let's move on. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88215 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sean and Dean - We Want You Back!
Heuer;635735 Wrote: To be fair this is a contracting market especially with the direction Apple have mapped out for us with iCloud. Apple can take their iCloud and ram it up their iArse. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87951 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sean and Dean - We Want You Back!
erland;636219 Wrote: Just because it's Apple or do you have some other reason ? What about a LogitechCloud ? Or maybe SlimCloud :-) No, just because it's a cloud and thus out of my control... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87951 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What The **** Do I Need?
Just remember that the people posting on these forums with issues/problems are probably 0.1% (or 1 in 1,000) of the install base. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88215 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Persistent, repeated, and serial artwork scan omissions
scanning is much faster in 7.6... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88141 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Albums show up twice
will biddle;634054 Wrote: All is well. I ensured the parent folder wasn't read only. This always seems to re-set itself, but I found that if I unchecked this box in folder properties and then immediately loaded the files into tagrename, I could save all tags without getting the 'can't write' message. I found an advanced setting in tagrename that deleted ID3v1 when I saved ID3v2, and I also ticked the 'disc #' box and left it empty. The only remaining issue is that two albums (out of thousands, so I'm not that bothered) aren't picking up the album art. I have used tagrename to save album art to all tracks in all albums and it's worked a treat apart from these two rogue albums! check that the artwork file properties are not set to hidden/system... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87965 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox streaming to Pianodisc or Disklavier?
Harry G;633914 Wrote: Is anyone using a Squeezebox to feed midi files to a modern player piano? Is so, do you convert the midi type 1 files to waves, MP3s or stream in native midi? Any input would be appreciated. erm... you can't convert (in the conventional sense) a midi file to a wav or any other soundfile unless you play it through a midi device and record the resultant sound. This would then be an audio file and could not drive a midi device. Nor can you use SBS to supply midi files to a midi device. ? Perhaps if you described more about what you are trying to achieve... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88040 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Classic frequent WiFi disconnects
check that the MAC ADDRESS inside the device matches that on the sticker on the bottom... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88032 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sean and Dean - We Want You Back!
Mnyb;63 Wrote: This forum has 34,253 members, what would the cost be per member if we start a company that we all could be shareholders in and hire Sean and Dean... Gets my vote (and money) :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87951 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitechs new sugary customer approach!
MrSinatra;633055 Wrote: i can only guess he used to work on the revue. logitech really needs to examine their approach. one wonders how long any of this stuff has once the slim guys thin all the way out. the below is quoted verbatim, unedited, out of today's email. start at the bottom, work your way up: real nice, huh? he also seemingly has no exp on the bug tracker, which is odd, for a QnA engineer. Sheesh... looks like someone got out of the wrong side of the bed... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87915 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] This is what the perfect Squeezebox looks like
Is that a switching supply? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87547 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Hi Rez
irasilv;629669 Wrote: Bought an external DAC hoping to download and play 24 bit/96 khz hi rez files. Need help. Does the Duet support this sampling rate? Do I need a special media player on the computer holding the files? NO. The Duet does not support 48Khz to either internal or external DAC. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87530 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Hi Rez
Bytec;629678 Wrote: ... I believe real time re-sampling sacrifices quality. No it doesn't. The results are identical done online or offline. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87530 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 3D sound!
aubuti;629438 Wrote: That was my first impression as well, although the wave track was much more extreme than StereoXL in expanding the width of the sound. I only listened on completely cheapo computer speakers attached to my monitor, but I thought the effect was more like widescreen 2D than 3D. I don't know the technical ins and outs, but isn't it basically about fiddling with the phasing of the two channels? It's really hard to form an impression without a treated and untreated sample to compare against! I'd also like to hear what happens when you press the mono button... that will instantly tell you if this involves any channel phase manipulation :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87437 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 3D sound!
Didn't sound very exciting to me... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87437 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] queezebox Classic v3 audio volume problems.
Soulkeeper;628708 Wrote: Have you tried connecting your SB3 to another amp? The output should be roughly as loud as anything else, so I have a small suspicion your SB3 may be defect (or there's something wrong in the settings). Yes. I read somewhere that some years ago there was a bug that caused the output to be not bit perfect (inverted phase maybe? I don't remember) but that was fixed. Now there's no difference according to most people. (But as this is a question about audio quality, you -will- be able to find people who disagree, if you try. Or perhaps even without trying.) THE LATEST FIRMWARE IS FINE - as are pretty much all versions ever released. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87428 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why is it showing double albums on my Touch?
If using flac files, this can be caused by having both vorbis comments and IDxVx tags (with different values in them). -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Finally, the best Controller App arrives at iOS!
mbonsack;627140 Wrote: So with the free app your iDevice is required to be on the same net as your SBS? Is UDP broadcast used to find the SBS instance? If so that will severely limit the free app's applicability for many folks. -mark ? - I seriously doubt that many people would have devices on different subnets within their house - that is a pretty exotic setup! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87212 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best way to play from PC a new MP3 you just donwloaded
grodri02;626461 Wrote: Hi, Can someone please help. How can I play files right away after a download from a PC and the touch? Browse Music Folder will let you play a file immediately. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87140 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help with modifying convert.conf file
do you have any verbose logging turned on in SBS? that's all I can Think of... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86310 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help with modifying convert.conf file
wilbert-vb;623549 Wrote: The resampling is working very well, but I notice constant disk activity while listening to internet radio. I assume that some temp file is generated and I wonder if there is a way to have this temp file stored in ram (/dev/shm, for example) What do you think, how could this be accomplished? what operating system? transcoding as in the convert.conf mods above doesn't write to disk, it is an in-memory operation... so unless your system is paging (ie very low on free ram) there should be no disk activity... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86310 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
firedog;619600 Wrote: From a thread on another forum designed to show the differences between standard CD quality and hi-res recordings (same recording at different sampling rates and bit depth). To my ears, the differences are clearly there, just as described. If you can't discern them, then either your system isn't up to snuff or your ears need training. IMO, the vast majority of listeners, if played these tracks, would say they sound the same. They all sound good -they're from the same master. It's just that when you know what to listen for, you can hear the difference. from Bruce Brown's (Puget Sound) thread at http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?2938-The-Art-of-Listening-Hi-rez-music One thread (the one with the link here) lets you compare redbook to higher res versions of the same music. You can clearly hear the differences, as Bruce says below in the thread: Here is a file that we recorded at a native 24/352.8 It starts off with piano/drum. Do not listen to the music! Instead, concentrate on the sticks hitting the cymbal. Listen to the attack/transient of the initial hit. Listen to the tone and then the decay. Focus on just this one element. Listen to the sound of the cymbals in the room. How big is the room? What kind of space is this drummer in? Listen to the tone of the cymbal. Now... as you go down to 176.4, then 88.2 and finally 16/44.1, listen to these elements that I talked about above. Listen how the transient attack becomes more dull. Notice how the tone of the cymbal changes from crisp/pristine to dull and flat. Next, notice how the decay becomes shorter and shorter and the room becomes smaller and more dry with less reverb. To my ears, clear proof that the improvement with hi -res is audible. You can hear the differences in transients and decay, and you can hear that the room gets smaller at lower res. To me, in spite of what others wrote on this thread, this makes a difference in real life. The music sounds more realistic and differently situated in space. Simply better - closer to the real thing, as you'd hear it if you were in the room. And please don't start telling me I imagined it all. I don't have a 352.8 DAC... and I have no way of knowing how the downsampling from 352-176-88-44 was done... I'll try a few things... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
I know you can't trust Audacity spectrum plots, but... +---+ |Filename: CropperCapture[1].jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11556| +---+ -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help with modifying convert.conf file
tcutting;618420 Wrote:
Here are the lines I added to the custom-convert.conf (Don't know if
this is the BEST way (Phil suggested sox), but it seems to work.):
# All squeezeslave players.
mp3 mp3 squeezeslave *
# IFB:{BITRATE=-B %B}D:{RESAMPLE=--resample %D}
[lame] --silent -q $QUALITY$ -v $BITRATE$ --resample 44100 --mp3input
$FILE$ -
flc flc squeezeslave *
# FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}D:{RESAMPLE=-r %d}
[flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -v0.95 -q -t wav - -t
flac -C 0 -r 44100 -
that will work fine
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103
- full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5),
Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber
8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables
Stax4070+SRM7/II phones
Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything.
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Re: [slim] No audio files in album directory...
pseud;618176 Wrote: Hello I have strange problem, I have been trying to add Bach's Goldberg Variations to the music library. I did so successfully 1st time, but removed it to change the artist/title tags file names. Since then I've been trying to re-add it - but, only the artist and album directories are recognised by SbS and the audio files aren't at all (even when navigating to them via the Music Folder). I guess something's been corrupted in the database somehow, but I've run a rescan by the Clear library and rescan everything option with no joy. Any ideas? Thx, Morgan. browse music folder doesn't use the database...must be something wrong with the files. How did you remove them? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86345 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help with modifying convert.conf file
vrette;618481 Wrote: Note quite there... Here is what I have done. Installed LAME in the proper directory. SBS indicates that it is properly installed. I didn't have a custom-convert.conf, so I created one with notepad, and copied the code into that. I then placed the custom-convert.conf in the same folder as the convert.conf. End result, One of the stations that was playing fast before now sounds normal. But several other stations that were playing fine before I installed the custom-convert.conf file now won't play with the custom-convert.conf installed. Did I miss a step or something? TIA When you created the custom-convert.conf file, did you start by copying the entire contents of convert.conf into it? (if not, start again and do that, then replace just the two sections above). If you need further help you need to enable player.source logging in settings - advanced - logging... set player.source to DEBUG and look in server.log to see what is actually being used when you try to play one of the failing streams... past the results back here (or attach the server.log file as a zip file...) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86310 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help with modifying convert.conf file
tcutting;618598 Wrote: I posted a txt version of my custom-convert.conf file. It does NOT have all the contents of the convert.conf in it. I know it doesn't have to... but it helps debugging if all the commands are in one place (file) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86310 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help with modifying convert.conf file
JJZolx;618604 Wrote: How so? I find it easier knowing which rules are standard by having only custom rules in custom-convert.conf. When editing or debugging it's easy enough to have both files open in an editor. Because (for example) if someone was to post or paste here they'd have to post/paste both files... to give us the full picture. Also, things get particularly tricky to keep track of if you have custom entries by player class and/or MAC... With all respect, I think you (and I!) are more of a programmer than many of the folks needing help with this stuff... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86310 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help with modifying convert.conf file
have you tried using squeezeplay instead of softsqueeze? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86310 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help with modifying convert.conf file
aubuti;618344 Wrote: Well, good luck with that, but before you spend a lot of hours figuring it out you may find that an easier solution is to use a hardware SB. Your present SBs are just crying out for a new brother or sister It's easy enough to create a custom-convert.conf that forces everything MP3 to 44.1 via SOX... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86310 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help with modifying convert.conf file
vrette;618352 Wrote: I trried Squeezeplay, and it is nice, but I prefer using the Squeezeslave/Moose combo on my PC because it is very quick and light on resources and space. Not much gets written to the registry either. I don't mind a challenge. why do you need both? - doesn't Moose on its own work? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86310 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Failing SB3
scalesr1;617427 Wrote: Greetings all. I have a variety of players including Slimp3, SB2 and SB3. One of my SB3's 'fell off the wifi' recently and would not re-connect. I have had mixed success in diagnosing the issue and it seems to be getting worse! Initially i connected it via ethernet and I was able to update the firmware (I have also upgraded to the current server version). Now I find that it will not connect to anything (WiFi or Ethernet), it will not pick up an IP address and it will generally not function as a player. I can perform a factory reset via the remote and the display seems to be just fine. I have reseated the Wireless card inside the unit but it all looks fairly hopeless. Is there anything else I could try (like resetting MAC address or similar) before consigning it to the bin? Regards to all Richard Scales Did you try it on ethernet with the wi-fi card completely disconnected? - that card may be faulty. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86279 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No Artists !
technojunkie;616684 Wrote: I have recently installed server version 7.5.3 and, after re-scanning my music library, everything seemed fine and all the the library info was shown correctly. However, when I manually restarted the server, the number of artists had changed to 0 and the artist names had disappeared. All album info, number of songs, genres and pictures were still there but artists had disappeared. I therefore cleared the cache and re-scanned the library. After the rescan, I checked artists and all the artists names were there but, after restarting the server, they had disappeared again ! I have tried installing the nightly version 7.5.4 and but still have the same problem. One minute the artist info is there and then, after a restart, it disappears. Can anyone please tell me how to resolve this problem ? I am running Windows 7 Professional 64 bit. Thank you You should have an error message in scanner.log or server.log - your problem is usually caused by a failure in the very last stage of the scanning process - often anti-virus software is the problem, what are you using? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86193 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No Artists !
technojunkie;616793 Wrote: Thanks for the post Phil. I'm using the Avast free anti-virus software and haven't previously had this problem. I should also add that the music scan always stops due to Music Scan Terminated Unexpectedly and I have to load the rest of my library by scanning look for new and changed music. However, this has never usually caused the problem of the Artist info disappearing. After the scan terminates for the first time (approx 95% complete) Artists are all shown correctly. However, sometime during running look for new music a second or third time and then only rescan playlists the Artists info disappears ! I found this line in the log that may be a clue but have no idea what it means : [11-03-09 13:23:25.1712] Slim::Schema::Storage::throw_exception (82) Error: DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'slimserver.dbix_migration' doesn't exist [for Statement SELECT value FROM dbix_migration WHERE name = ?; ] [11-03-09 13:23:25.1716] Slim::Schema::Storage::throw_exception (82) Backtrace: Thanks again. That error message can be ignored. However, the Music scan terminated unexpectedly error is a real problem. It's hard to explain without a lot of typing, but what you are seeing is a scan failure just before the last step (you will have artists, but they won't be 100% correct) or a failure within the last step (0 artists - they get lost at this point). You need to get a Full rescan to run (a new and changed won't fix your problem). Use the SBS control panel to clear the cache, then do a full rescan. Check SCANNER.LOG (only a full rescan writes to scanner.log) for messages. Report back -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86193 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Does computer used affect sound quality?
NO NO NO NO NO If it did, the quality of the Internet would be affected by all the rubbish computers connected to it.. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
sebp;616378 Wrote: Hi Phil, I had another challenging session last sunday, and I surprisingly had the impression I could hear some differences this time. I couldn't really tell I heard anything missing from the CD version, but the HD file just sounded better to my ears. As I don't trust them, I used Audacity's spectrum analyser with both files, and looking at average gain values for some frequencies, they always appeared to be a bit louder in the HD Version than in the CD version. If you look at the screenshots, you'll see it's 4 dB louder for 100 Hz, for example (-32dB is for the HD file, -36dB is for the CD file). I then computed replaygains using foobar2000, and got -6.40dB for the CD version and -6.02dB for the HD version. So, downsampling 24/96 to 16/44.1 with SoX seems to lower the average gain of the 16/44.1 version a little bit. Is an average 0.38dB volume difference sufficient to be heard? I can't tell for sure, but thought it would be worth mentioning... Hi. Whether or not you can hear a 0.38dB difference is highly debatable - in my experience such things are barely audible... when mixing down, a 0.5dB lift/cut is barely noticeable and more often than not a 1-1.5dB change is requird o register as different. Obviously this varies slightly from person to person. In this comparison, how were the 2 versions created? - using SOX to downsample? - taking HD and CD versions from a commercial release doesn't work as there is no way of knowing how the masters were created. By the way, the Audacity frequency spectrum analysis is highly suspect - it isn't accurate... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
sebp;616387 Wrote: As said, I don't trust my ears that much, and am pretty sure I couldn't ABX the files. The strange part is that I was challenging the files alone, and ignored two friends of mine were doing the same. One of them, who is more accustomed to comparisons than me, also suspected his downsampled version was sounding lower. I only discovered that later. I first compared commercial HD/CD downloads, and then rolled my own CD version from the HD file. In both cases this 0.38dB volume difference existed. I'll try using r8brain to check whether the volume difference also exists with that tool. As I'm not an audio specialist, I wasn't sure my readings were right. That's why I've computed replaygains to check. How did you roll your own? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ethernet Appears Disconnected Please Check Your Network Connection
Sounds like a faulty switch to me - have you tried swapping it out? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86169 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 7.6: working with MusicIP? (no 'M' icon)
bobkoure;615503 Wrote: I note the scanner log has about 5000 instances of lines that look like this: Code: [11-03-04 11:42:06.1305] Audio::Scan::scan (64) Warning: Error reading: No error (wanted 4096) [11-03-04 11:42:06.1324] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (654) ERROR SCANNING file:///E:/[music]/lossless-CDs/Pat%20Metheny%20Group%20-%20Travels/2-02%20-%20Going%20Ahead-As%20Falls%20Wichita,%20So%20Falls%20Wichita%20Falls.flac: Unable to read tags from file Warning: Error reading: No error OK, *that* makes sense... All files scanned fine previously with 7.3x and 7.5x (I'm pretty fussy with tags). I don't expect this is related to the 'M' icon not appearing. I'm considering downloading and installing an earlier build of 7.6 before I fall back to 7.5. FWIW, this build of 7.6 doesn't appear any faster then 7.5 on a medium-spec machine (atom 525, plenty of memory, MySQL innodb buffers 110% of database size and I kept boosting query cache until old queries stopped getting discarded). I've gotten 7.5 to go faster, cache run from a ramdisk, but it's currently not on ram (hard disk issues, hadn't done the ramdisk shuffle, thought I'd take a stab at 7.6) are you trying to run 7.6 with MYSQL? - this is broken. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86071 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 7.6: working with MusicIP? (no 'M' icon)
Works OK for me (except from the New Music screen) - M icon appears, mixes generate etc -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86071 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
firedog;615126 Wrote: ...So I'll keep buying hi-res. But before you call me silly and a fool, just change the name from hi-res to properly mastered and then we won't have anything to argue about. That's what I do too! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
It's easy enough to do your own tests... you already have SOX which is capable of high quality downsampling/word reduction. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
Cape11;614910 Wrote: Well is it? Over sampling means there's no need for a filter, but my point was that the frequency response is shaped like a cliff edge, and over-ssampling can do nothing to remedy that under-lying condition. I remain concerned about possible phase distortion into the audio band which would have a deleterious effect on the leading edge of percusiion instruments. And that's what I miss on CD (the clink on the triangle when first hit, attack of piano notes) but get on LP. I would think 192 ksps would suffice, which is 'sort of' the sampling equivalent of SACD. If all these effects have been nailed, why is there almost universal agreement that SACD is better than CD? There is almost universal misunderstanding. I'll leave to one side the fact that large parts of the upper spectrum of SACD's are full of noise... thankfully we can't hear it :-) As I keep saying, SACD playback is not inherently superior to redbook... in terms of what we can hear. That's the whole point of the Meyer/Moran paper. They inserted a redbook adc-dac chain in the midst of an SACD playback chain. Nobody could hear it! (this isn't the basis for my argument, which I've been developing for years - it just neatly backs it up). What CAN BE better is the mastering job done to produce the SACD (sometimes - there are some pretty ropey SACD's out there too...). Don't be fooled into comparing the redbook and sacd layers of a hybrid disk - they often don't use the same master, rendering the comparison pointless. Of course, far be it for me to suggest that record companies would deliberately make the expensive SACD layer sound better :-) To reiterate, it's NOT the playback technology, it's the mastering. Redbook can sound identical to SACD. By the way, that frequency response cliff exists on many SACD's too... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
bobkoure;614932 Wrote:
Hi Phil - got a link to that paper? I googled for it, and it's
apparently generated loads of controversy ('my google search'
(http://www.google.com/search?num=50hl=enlr=q=Meyer+Moran+CD+audiobtnG=Searchaq=faqi=aql=oq=)),
which IMO is all to the good, but I'd be curious to read the paper
itself.
BTW, as I remember, the CD audio format was chosen, in part, to be able
to fit an entire LP onto a single data tape. No, I can't find a
reference, but I vaguely remember a good discussion of the process to
determine/decide on this new digital format in one of the IEEE mags in
the early '80s. Do you remember this being one of the factors? Or am I
totally misremembering?
Courtesy of Wombat:
http://hlloyge.hl.funpic.de/wp-conte...p-inserted.pdf
wasn't the cd supposed to be long enough to hold a particular Beethoven
symphony? (this might be a myth)
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF
x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1
system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner,
Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker
Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables
Stax4070+SRM7/II phones
Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything.
Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85
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Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) SoundCard does it exist ?
I'm running 20 metre USB cables with no problems at all... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85991 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) SoundCard does it exist ?
finnbrodersen;614641 Wrote: 20m USB :-) maybe I should give it a try I've got several 5m USB extension cables connected together... Works OK for my mouse,keyboard and usb hard drives -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85991 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
