RE: A very basic safety question.

2009-11-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
-wet NEC limits. Of course, our discussion is only hypothetical as the OP did not indicate end-use safety standard and nor operating environment nor national market. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of John Allen Sent: Monday

RE: A very basic safety question.

2009-11-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Brian Whilst I think I know what you may be getting at, the fact is that an output considered to be SELV (Safety Extra Low Voltage, after all) of a correctly designed and built Class I device which is connected to to a correctly designed and grounded (earthed) supply building system will be safe

RE: A very basic safety question.

2009-11-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
, inherently limited power, etc). Local code requirements could also effect power source requirements. Brian From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Piotr Galka Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 2:05 AM To: EMC-PSTC Subject: A very basic safety question. All, Consider

A very basic safety question.

2009-11-14 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
. Now consider the 12V powered device connected to one of them. Is that device CLASS III equipment in both cases? Best Regards Piotr Galka MicroMade Poland - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail

Northeast Product Safety Society Vendor’s Night Next Wednesday, November 18

2009-11-11 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All, The Northeast Product Safety Society invites you to the 15th annual Vendor’s Night to be held at the Boxborough Holiday Inn next Wednesday evening, November 18th from 5:00 to 9:30 PM. Vendor's Night is opportunity to get answers to all your product safety/EMC questions in one evening

RE: Safety reqs for Lamps

2009-11-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
-Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:08 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Safety reqs for Lamps Hello group, A low voltage safety question

Safety reqs for Lamps

2009-11-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hello group, A low voltage safety question I am familiar with the requirements of the EC market for luminaries, but still have to learn something for the USA and Canada market. The product in question is a decorative lamp of multiples PE sheeting (vertically) enclosing a standard tungsten

Northeast Product Safety Society Vendor’s Night on Wednesday, November 18

2009-11-06 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All, The Northeast Product Safety Society invites you to the 15th annual Vendor’s Night to be held at the Boxborough Holiday Inn on Wednesday evening, November 18th from 5:00 to 9:30 PM. Vendor's Night is opportunity to get answers to all your product safety/EMC questions in one evening

Cancelled - Northeast Product Safety Society Meeting Tonight, October 28th

2009-10-28 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All, The scheduled October 28th NPSS meeting is cancelled. We hope you will join us at the 2009 Vendors Night on November 18th at the Boxborough Holiday Inn. If you or anyone you know would like to give a product safety technical presentation, please contact Steve Brody by email at steven.br

Cancelled - Northeast Product Safety Society Meeting Next Wednesday, October 28th

2009-10-22 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All, The scheduled October 28th NPSS meeting is canceled. We hope you will join us at the 2009 Vendors Night on November 18th at the Boxborough Holiday Inn. If you or anyone you know would like to give a product safety technical presentation, please contact Steve Brody by email at steven.br

Cancelled - Northeast Product Safety Society Meeting Wednesday, October 28th

2009-10-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All, The scheduled October 28th NPSS meeting is cancelled. We hope you will join us at the 2009 Vendors Night on November 18th at the Boxborough Holiday Inn. If you or anyone you know would like to give a product safety technical presentation, please contact Steve Brody by email at steven.br

FW: Product Safety Engineer Position in San Diego

2009-10-14 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
, October 05, 2009 10:57 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Product Safety Engineer Position in San Diego Req 130468 Safety Engineer Location: San Diego, CA Position Summary: This position is for a Product Safety Engineer within the Platform Hardware Development group. This position is responsible

Product Safety Engineer Position in San Diego

2009-10-05 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Req 130468 Safety Engineer Location: San Diego, CA Position Summary: This position is for a Product Safety Engineer within the Platform Hardware Development group. This position is responsible for the planning, testing, working with safety agencies and achieving product safety certifications

Product Safety Compliance Specialist

2009-10-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
if there is anyone from the Canadian Standards Association you would recommend me connecting with. Summary RIM Testing Services has an opening for a Product Safety Compliance Specialist. The keys are Product Safety Requirements for ITE (Information Technology Equipment) i.e. BlackBerry

Northeast Product Safety Society Meeting Today, September 23rd

2009-09-23 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All, There will be a Northeast Product Safety Society / CNEC Product Safety Engineering Society meeting today, September 23rd, at the Holiday Inn, Boxborough MA. A social hour with light refreshments will begin at 7:00 PM and the technical meeting will start at 7:30 PM. Matt Cusson, Siemens

Northeast Product Safety Society Meeting Next Wednesday, September 23rd

2009-09-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All, There will be a Northeast Product Safety Society / CNEC Product Safety Engineering Society meeting next Wednesday, September 23rd, at the Holiday Inn, Boxborough MA. A social hour with light refreshments will begin at 7:00 PM and the technical meeting will start at 7:30 PM. Matt Cusson

Re: Standard for AC breaker trip curve - [safety]

2009-08-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http

RE: Standard for AC breaker trip curve - [safety]

2009-08-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:54 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Standard for AC breaker trip curve - [safety] Greetings members. Can someone point me to the “basic” standard that would be the foundation for household circuit breaker trip

Standard for AC breaker trip curve - [safety]

2009-08-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
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Re: [PSES] Workplace Safety Rules

2009-08-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
and www.isce.org.uk Things can always get better. But that's not the only option. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p

RE: [PSES] Workplace Safety Rules

2009-08-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi All, Is that John waxing lyrical again? :-) Regards Tim From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: 03 August 2009 14:12 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Workplace Safety Rules *** WARNING *** This message has

Re: [PSES] Workplace Safety Rules

2009-08-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used

RE: Workplace Safety Rules

2009-08-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: Workplace Safety Rules If the inspector is not trained and documented as trained, they cannot enter the inner dangerous parts of the lab. Or they have to wait until the lab is made safe for them. You can't let just anybody into the hazardous areas. - Bill

RE: [PSES] Workplace Safety Rules

2009-08-02 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
John, Since you mentioned tea-lights, I had to share this story... We have a rental cabin in the mountains and for safety concerns we purchased some of the battery powered candles to keep guests from accidently burning the place down. Ironically, it only took about 2 months for someone

RE: [PSES] Workplace Safety Rules

2009-07-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
: Re: [PSES] Workplace Safety Rules There's no end to the dangers around us. I recently purchased a spray nozzle for a garden hose, and it had a label saying: CAUTION: Shock Hazard: Do not spray near electricity. Detach from faucet during freezing weather. This product intended for outdoor

Re: Workplace Safety Rules

2009-07-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
PM Subject: Workplace Safety Rules I like to know this group's experiences regarding the following, which has been put into my lap to resolve. Our plant manager recently arranged a class on electrical safety (based on OSHA regulations and the NFPA 70E standard) for our engineering

Re: [PSES] Workplace Safety Rules

2009-07-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
/2009 04:01 PM Please respond to Philo Beddo ashwort...@yahoo.com To EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG cc Subject Re: [PSES] Workplace Safety Rules John, I work in the EHS organization of my company. We've had to evaluate our lab's Best Practices against the OSHA requirements

RE: Workplace Safety Rules

2009-07-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
McCallum Subject: Re: Workplace Safety Rules I expect shortly someone will need me to affix an A4 paper at my monitor saying Monitor screen. Read here what computer tells you. Best Regards Piotr Galka MicroMade Poland - Original Message - From: Flavin, John

Re: Workplace Safety Rules

2009-07-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:56 PM Subject: Workplace Safety Rules I like to know this group's experiences regarding the following, which has been put into my lap to resolve. Our plant manager recently arranged a class on electrical safety

Re: Workplace Safety Rules

2009-07-30 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
, John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk wrote: From: John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: Workplace Safety Rules To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 4:10 PM In message E4C83436DF3D724A8D70992643

Re: Workplace Safety Rules

2009-07-30 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk Things can always get better. But that's not the only option. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send

Re: Workplace Safety Rules

2009-07-30 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
John, I work in the EHS organization of my company. We've had to evaluate our lab's Best Practices against the OSHA requirements. In English, how we handle power and safety while performing EMC and safety testing. The biggest issue at hand was exposed connectors on LISN's and breakout

Re: Workplace Safety Rules

2009-07-30 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
quite quickly. That said, an independent review of safety will almost always throw up some opportunities for change which will improve safety in your products and operations. Double insulation (particularly if the outer layer is a different colour to the inner layer) will make it easy to see

Workplace Safety Rules

2009-07-30 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I like to know this group's experiences regarding the following, which has been put into my lap to resolve. Our plant manager recently arranged a class on electrical safety (based on OSHA regulations and the NFPA 70E standard) for our engineering staff who work in all of our labs

RE: cable safety

2009-07-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
To: IEEE EMC SAFETY PSTC safety with respect to fire, flammability and toxic chemicals. Again is there a service that provides notice of changes or where one can obtain world wide related regulation information such as that provided by EIA Track for environmental issues? Regards

RE: cable safety

2009-07-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
for an offline discussion. -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Denis Ryskamp Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:21 AM To: IEEE EMC SAFETY PSTC safety with respect to fire, flammability and toxic chemicals. Again is there a service

RE: cable safety

2009-07-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
. Is there a service that will give a heads-up well in advance so that one can plan (and justify) such product retesting? -Currently, safety compliance for data and power cables (some cables are large diameter and several hundred feet long) are the issue. Understanding is that for aircraft, the FAA flammability

Re: New toy safety directive

2009-07-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
right of the display. No-one tells you that! -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk Things can always get better. But that's not the only option. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety

RE: New toy safety directive

2009-07-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Nick, all, Thanks for the information. Can we look forward to photographs of the signatory in the DoC to aid identification as well? Regards Tim From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Nick Williams Sent: 03 July 2009 08:22 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: New toy safety

New toy safety directive

2009-07-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Some members of this list may be interested to know that a new toy safety directive was published in the OJ on Tuesday this week. Directive 2009/48/EC replaces 88/378/EEC from 20 July 2011. So far as I can see on the basis of a quick read, the practical differences between the old and new

RE: [PSES] U.S. Medical Device Safety Act

2009-06-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
] Sent: 16 June 2009 16:19 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] U.S. Medical Device Safety Act Perhaps I did not understand the proposed legislation. My interpretation is, regardless of FDA and NRTL assessments and certification, that the failure of a fully conforming device will make

RE: [PSES] U.S. Medical Device Safety Act

2009-06-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
. Please comment if I am not correct. Brian -Original Message- From: Andy Clifford [mailto:andy.cliff...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:06 AM To: 'Brian O'Connell'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] U.S. Medical Device Safety Act Due to the new

RE: [PSES] U.S. Medical Device Safety Act

2009-06-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Due to the new Medical Device Safety Act 2009, I might expect the risk assessment requirements of the 3rd edition to become more important, since the FDA, who may now share in a manufacturer's liability by approving test reports, will need more effort from manufacturers in order to demonstrate

webcast - Safety: Codes, Standards and a Legal Perspective

2009-05-27 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
- like Dr Strangelove fighting his own arm... R/S, Brian - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http

RE: IEC 61010-1 safety standard question

2009-05-22 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
, May 22, 2009 7:00 AM To: r...@weichels.dk; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: IEC 61010-1 safety standard question Hi Peter: A couple of quick points from my perspective. Note that in figure 6 (61010-1, second edition) the baffle overlap distance needs to be a least 1 inch (Y = twice X

RE: IEC 61010-1 safety standard question

2009-05-22 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
luck. Richard Richard Payne Tektronix, Inc. Product Safety Engineering V: (503) 627-1820 F: (503) 627-3838 E: richard.pa...@tektronix.com mailto:richard.pa...@tektronix.com From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:22 PM

Re: IEC 61010-1 safety standard question

2009-05-22 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
- From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl To: Peter mailto:r...@weichels.dk Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: RE: IEC 61010-1 safety standard question I do not see an gap in your drawing

Re: IEC 61010-1 safety standard question

2009-05-19 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Test is a difficult test to comply with Peter Merguerian --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Peter r...@weichels.dk wrote: From: Peter r...@weichels.dk Subject: IEC 61010-1 safety standard question To: emc-p...@ieee.org Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 10:34 AM

IEC 61010-1 safety standard question

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
to make a drawing (best seen using non proportional font) Hope this is somewhat clear, have a nice day :-) Best regards Peter - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All

Re: Safety above 1500 V dc

2009-05-15 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
from the same source), because it is the same situation: input in range, output out of range. Best Regards Piotr Galka - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc

RE: Safety above 1500 V dc

2009-05-14 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Piotr Galka Sent: 14 May 2009 08:23 To: EMC-PSTC; John Harrington Subject: Re: Safety above 1500 V dc John, Thanks for the feedback. I was looking at the wording of the LVD guidance document which states

Re: Safety above 1500 V dc

2009-05-14 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted

Re: Safety above 1500 V dc

2009-05-14 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
. Is this a wrong interpretation? If the 230V powered device with output over 1500V is out of LVD than also 9V power supply is out of LVD - the same situation. Piotr Galka. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message

Re: Safety above 1500 V dc

2009-05-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats

RE: Safety above 1500 V dc

2009-05-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
: RE: Safety above 1500 V dc John I do not believe that there is any Directive governing that. Electricity supplies 1500V are generally outwith the Low Voltage public distribution network, and connection would be governed by the supply authority. If you are considering outputs from equipment 1500V

RE: Safety above 1500 V dc

2009-05-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: Safety above 1500 V dc John I do not believe that there is any Directive governing that. Electricity supplies 1500V are generally outwith the Low Voltage public distribution network, and connection would be governed by the supply authority. If you are considering outputs from

RE: Safety above 1500 V dc

2009-05-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
: RE: Safety above 1500 V dc John I do not believe that there is any Directive governing that. Electricity supplies 1500V are generally outwith the Low Voltage public distribution network, and connection would be governed by the supply authority. If you are considering outputs from equipment

RE: Safety above 1500 V dc

2009-05-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
...@ieee.org Subject: Safety above 1500 V dc Hi All In Europe the LVD covers equipment rated up to 1500 V dc. Which directive applies to equipment rated above 1500 V? Thanks John Harrington Compliance Engineer Keithley Instruments, Inc. jharring...@keithley.com Tel: 440 498 2727

Safety above 1500 V dc

2009-05-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
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Thank you (RE: Safety lab in USA)

2009-05-01 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear Colleagues; Can I thank all those who replied to my question regarding the availability of a safety testing lab located in the Memphis area? I now have enough information to proceed. Kind regards; Ian McBurney. Allen Heath Ltd. email:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com P Please

Safety lab in USA

2009-04-28 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear colleagues; Can anyone let me know if there is a safety testing lab in the Memphis Tennessee area of the USA that can test audio products (mainly professional) to UL60065 CAN/CSA C22.2 No 60065-03 and apply a recognised mark e.g. UL, ETL, TUV etc. Thanks in advance; Ian McBurney

RE: Safety: Japan PSE vs UL Power Cords and Japan CB Cert to IEC 1010

2009-04-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
...@echostar.com] Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 8:55 AM To: Ted Eckert; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Safety: Japan PSE vs UL Power Cords and Japan CB Cert to IEC 1010 Isn’t it more efficient to have a detachable cord (i.e. an AC connector) and locally source the line cord

RE: Safety: Japan PSE vs UL Power Cords and Japan CB Cert to IEC 1010

2009-04-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
: RE: Safety: Japan PSE vs UL Power Cords and Japan CB Cert to IEC 1010 My previous employer purchased UL/CSA/PSE cords from a number of vendors. It is possible to design a cord that meets the requirements of North America and Japan. However, as Peter Merguerian noted, it is expensive. The sales

RE: Safety: Japan PSE vs UL Power Cords and Japan CB Cert to IEC 1010

2009-04-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
. From: peter merguerian [mailto:pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:20 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: Safety: Japan PSE vs UL Power Cords and Japan CB Cert to IEC 1010 Jeff, The standard for cords and plugs are different than in the US

Re: Safety: Japan PSE vs UL Power Cords and Japan CB Cert to IEC 1010

2009-04-23 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
are not covered by Denan) and requires a PSE Mark, the invertor can be tested for compliance with Japanese Appedix 8 standard that covers various electrical equipment for safety and emc. If invertor is not covered by Denan and does not require the PSE Mark, you can approach a Japanese certification body like TUV

RE: a question on safety report formats

2009-04-23 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
. You can get a form from UL for this. You will need to fill it out, then ask your OEM to fill in his parts, then submit it to UL. Then, you can get access to UL for the OEM product, and UL will talk to you. Best regards, Rich - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering

RE: a question on safety report formats

2009-04-23 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: a question on safety report formats Hi George: Since it was a UL report, I called UL to talk about it, however, they were only able to respond that they couldn’t comment on the report because it’s the proprietary information of a customer

Safety: Japan PSE vs UL Power Cords and Japan CB Cert to IEC 1010

2009-04-23 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Group, ( Sleepless in Japan ) I'm having a hard time finding a standard 120VAC 15 amp, 18 AWG power cord with both the UL and PSE Safety Marks. I've tried several power cord manufacturers and they state this combo does not exist. If so why not I have power supplies that are both PSE

RE: a question on safety report formats

2009-04-23 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
There is a specific reason for the content and structure of product safety reports in general, and UL FUS reports in particular. Older reports are stored as separate image and/or rtf files; where the construction details (which become the 'FUS' report) are separate from each test data file. UL

RE: a question on safety report formats

2009-04-23 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
is sorting this out. br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety Regulatory Consultant Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 503/452-1201fone/fax p.perk...@ieee.org - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message

a question on safety report formats

2009-04-23 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi Folks, When I recently asked an OEM for a UL EN60950-1 safety report for an ITE product, instead of the usual single PDF, compiled with all the required sections, I got a zip file containing all the sections as loose-leaf rtf and jpg documents. In this case, there were sections from

Cancelled - Northeast Product Safety Society Meeting Wednesday, April 22n

2009-04-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All, The scheduled April 22nd NPSS meeting is cancelled as our scheduled speaker will not be available for the NPSS meeting due to other commitments If you or anyone you know would like to give a product safety technical presentation, please contact Steve Brody by email at steven.br

vacuum safety limits

2009-03-27 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear all, is anybody aware of scientific data or technical standards giving information on safety limits for vacuum (suction) in medical applications, specifically for skin suction? Thanks, Paolo Peruzzi Regulatory Medical RD El.En. S.p.A. Via Baldanzese, 17 50041 Calenzano (FI) Italy Tel

Northeast Product Safety Society Meeting Today, March 25th

2009-03-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All, There will be a Northeast Product Safety Society / CNEC Product Safety Engineering Society meeting today, March 25th, at the Holiday Inn, Boxborough MA. A social hour with light refreshments will begin at 7:00 PM and the technical meeting will start at 7:30 PM. John M. Freudenberg

Northeast Product Safety Society Meeting Next Wednesday, March 25th

2009-03-20 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All, There will be a Northeast Product Safety Society / CNEC Product Safety Engineering Society meeting on Wednesday, March 25th, at the Holiday Inn, Boxborough MA. A social hour with light refreshments will begin at 7:00 PM and the technical meeting will start at 7:30 PM. John M. Freudenberg

RE: Indian Product Safety Standards

2009-03-16 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Thanks for info Joe From: Joe Randolph [mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com] Sent: 11 March 2009 18:32 To: Petrie, Craig D; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Indian Product Safety Standards On 3/11/2009, Craig Petrie wrote: Are there any product safety

Re: Indian Product Safety Standards

2009-03-11 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
On 3/11/2009, Craig Petrie wrote: Are there any product safety standards which apply to IT equipment to be sold for Indian market? Are there some minimum mandatory requirements? My web trawl so far has turned up no mandatory requirements. Hi Craig: I know that for telecom

Indian Product Safety Standards

2009-03-11 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Good afternoon, Are there any product safety standards which apply to IT equipment to be sold for Indian market? Are there some minimum mandatory requirements? My web trawl so far has turned up no mandatory requirements. Regards, Craig - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety

RE: Australia C-Tick and safety requirements

2009-03-09 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
: Re: Australia C-Tick and safety requirements Hi Dan: As far as question 2 is concerned (line frequency devices CISPR 22), CISPR 22 does address it. The Introduction says: The scope is extended to the whole radio-frequency range from 9 kHz to 400 GHz, . . . . 50Hz is below the range. It also

Northeast Product Safety Society Meeting Tomrrow, February 25th

2009-02-24 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All, NOTE - The NORTHEAST PRODUCT SAFETY SOCIETY has a new web address – WWW.NEPSS.NET. Please make sure you change your shortcuts and links or you will miss out on all we have to offer! There will be a Northeast Product Safety Society / CNEC Product Safety Engineering Society meeting tomorrow

RE: Australia C-Tick and safety requirements

2009-02-23 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All, A couple of clarifications may be helpful. EMC Requirements Australian EMC regulations do not include any 'product safety' requirements. As such, the Compliance Folder for EMC should include: * a DoC declaring compliance with currently acceptable versions of AS/NZS CISPR 22

RE: Australia C-Tick and safety requirements

2009-02-23 Thread Pickard, Ron
a safety report, I believe it’s a good idea to include one anyway, but that’s a preference and not a requirement. Dan, I hope you can now answer your friend’s questions. Best regards, Ron Pickard ron.pick...@intermec.com mailto:ron.pick...@intermec.com

RE: Australia C-Tick and safety requirements

2009-02-23 Thread Kevin Richardson
Ron, I absolutely support your recommendation to include a safety test report in an EMC Compliance Folder anyway. That is my recommendation to anyone also. Best regards, Kevin Richardson Stanimore Pty Limited Compliance Advice Solutions for Technology (Legislation/Regulations/Standards

Re: Australia C-Tick and safety requirements

2009-02-21 Thread Barry Esmore
Hi Jim, A declaration of conformity is required under the EMC regs, but not the safety regs. Under the safety regs there are two main categories of product in Australia, prescribed and non-prescribed. For prescribed equipment to be legally sold it must be approved by a recognised authority

Re: Australia C-Tick and safety requirements

2009-02-21 Thread Barry Esmore
Hi Ron, The ACMA normally only audit for EMC, C-Tick, radiocommunications and similar issues not involving safety. However, where a RCM (Regulatory Compliance Mark) declaration has been made this is audited by the ACMA. The RCM involves both safety and EMC, and the problem is that most ACMA

Re: Australia C-Tick and safety requirements

2009-02-20 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
components (some coils, caps, and MOVs). 1. Does the C-Tick mark for non-telecom equipment require both EMC and safety declarations? I know that for the telecom equipment my company produces, the ACA requires telecom, safety, and EMC (A- tick and C-tick) but I don’t know if the safety

Australia C-Tick and safety requirements

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Roman
. Does the C-Tick mark for non-telecom equipment require both EMC and safety declarations? I know that for the telecom equipment my company produces, the ACA requires telecom, safety, and EMC (A-tick and C-tick) but I don’t know if the safety portion is a telecom specific requirement

Re: Australia C-Tick and safety requirements

2009-02-20 Thread peter merguerian
For safety, this is not a perscribed equipment and therefore does not require a safety approval from a state authority However, the product must still comply with the Australia safety requirements in AS/NZS 60950.1. This standard is harmonized with IEC60950-1 so if you comply with the standard

RE: Australia C-Tick and safety requirements

2009-02-20 Thread Jim Robson
calls out AS/NZS 60950 for Telco equipment. The Radiocommunications Labeling (EMC) Notice 2008 which covers ITE does not call out AS/NZS 60950. You also wrote does not require a safety approval from a state authority. Do mean AS/NZS 60950 testing must be done at an approved lab and then cite

RE: Australia C-Tick and safety requirements

2009-02-20 Thread Pickard, Ron
/emcbook.pdf The ACMA does not impose safety requirements for C-tick (ACMA) or RCM (Regulatory Compliance Mark, owned by AU NZ regulators) markings, but I believe the “state authorities” that Peter refers to do and are the provincial electrical authorities (refer to Appendix D) which must

RE: Australia C-Tick and safety requirements

2009-02-20 Thread peter merguerian
Dan, You will need to consult the Electrical Safety Act 2002 Non-prescribed electrical equipment A person who sells non-prescribed electrical equipment must comply with section 120 of the Regulation. Generally speaking all non-prescribed electrical equipment must comply with the safety

Ontario, Canada safety regulation 438/07

2009-02-17 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
of electrical products in CSA C22.1-2009, Section 0, or in the 26th edition of the Ontario Electrical Code), 1) you must be registered and 2) if the same product is sold elsewhere in the world, and you are aware of a safety problem with it, then you are required to inform ESA of the problem

RE: Ontario, Canada safety regulation 438/07

2009-02-17 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
...@intermec.com mailto:ron.pick...@intermec.com From: Doug Nix [mailto:d...@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:10 PM To: Pickard, Ron Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Ontario, Canada safety regulation 438/07 Ron, I think you're giving ESA

RE: Ontario, Canada safety regulation 438/07 - Getting off topic

2009-02-17 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: Ontario, Canada safety regulation 438/07 Dan, I wish that ESA had that much of a sense of humour, but I doubt it! Canadian Provinces are not very good at copying ideas from each other, so I doubt that you will see a run of copy-cat legislation in the other

Ontario, Canada Safety Regulations

2009-02-17 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
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Ontario, Canada Safety Regulations

2009-02-17 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
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Re: Ontario, Canada safety regulation 438/07

2009-02-17 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
- From: Gawrzyjal, Kazimier Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:30 PM To: 'Doug Nix'; Brian O'Connell Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Ontario, Canada safety regulation 438/07 Doug, Brian, ESA WG6 recommendations (see option 4): http://esasafe.com/pdf/wg

Re: Ontario, Canada safety regulation 438/07

2009-02-17 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk Things can always get better. But that's not the only option. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail

RE: Ontario, Canada safety regulation 438/07

2009-02-17 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
in the Cons column outlining option 4 in the WG6 document I refer to below. Regards, Kaz From: Gawrzyjal, Kazimier Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:30 PM To: 'Doug Nix'; Brian O'Connell Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Ontario, Canada safety regulation 438/07 Doug, Brian, ESA WG6 recommendations

RE: Ontario, Canada safety regulation 438/07

2009-02-17 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
, 2009 11:52 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Ontario, Canada safety regulation 438/07 Hi Kaz et al, Aside from the bureaucratic revenue generating machine ESA is creating, I'm wondering, would this is the first government mandated regulation that could be construed as introducing HBSE to some

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