A client designs systems to a specific customer's requirements, and these are
one off systems. They contain 3rd party devices in the system.The systems are
installed and serviced by my client. The installation team also provides
operating and safety information to the user at install and there
tober 2017 01:01
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] FCC Language in Manuals, Intentional Transmitter
Esteemed Colleagues --
We are incorporating a modularly approved intentional transmitter into some
industrial products. We understand the requirement to include on the product
(o
: Monday, October 30, 2017 6:25 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: FCC Language in Manuals, Intentional Transmitter
"(c) The provisions of paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section do not apply
todigital devices exempted from the technical standards under the provisions of
§ 1
Jedi mind tricks. "This is not the equipment label you are looking
for..."
Brian
From: Mike Sherman [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 6:01 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] FCC Language in Manuals, Intentional Transmitter
Esteem
Esteemed Colleagues --
We are incorporating a modularly approved intentional transmitter into some
industrial products. We understand the requirement to include on the product
(or in our manuals, if the product is too small) the Part 15.19 compliance
statement (" This device com
: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 1:18 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?
Hi Jamison:
Supposedly, only the safety instructions that are specified in the standard can
be arbitrarily subject to “printed” versus “electronic
PPS: the Chinese general to whom I referred was Sun Zu – “google” that if you
want to find out more.
From: john Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: 14 November 2016 22:20
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?
PS: that the quoted “know thine
W.London, UK
From: john Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: 14 November 2016 22:00
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?
TBH, this subject will run and run – until, “some day”, “someone in authority”
“some where” will make a “definitive” statement
appy to try to help if you
do.
John E Allen (“Compliance with Experience Ltd”)
W.London, UK
From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org]
Sent: 14 November 2016 21:18
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?
Hi Jamison:
Supposedly, only the sa
or operation. (The computer you are using to read this e-mail
is likely “stand-alone” safe.) In this case, no safety instructions are
necessary. (The products I was associated with were of this construction; we
had no requirements imposed upon us for manuals.)
For permanently-wired
Well, at some point hey moved away from stone tablets, so there is hope!
Thanks,
Jamison
From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 12:37 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?
There is also the issue, which I know has
on.kor...@ecolab.com]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 6:57 PM
To: John Woodgate <jmw1...@btinternet.com>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] Paper Manuals?
Well, at some point hey moved away from stone tablets, so there is hope!
Thanks,
Jamison
From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@bt
[mailto:peperkin...@cs.com <peperkin...@cs.com>]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 14, 2016 12:00 PM
> *To:* Kortas, Jamison <jamison.kor...@ecolab.com>;
> EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> *Subject:* RE: [PSES] Paper Manuals?
>
>
>
> Jamison, et al,
>
>
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on.kor...@ecolab.com>>;
EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: RE: [PSES] Paper Manuals?
Jamison, et al,
It’s less the responsibility of the standards writing
organization to dictate the manual paper or electronic rather to indicate
clearl
:12 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?
I haven’t tried in a while but at the time - 10 years ago and got the same
mixed results you appear to have gotten. When pressed about the only reason
they could give me was concern was that not all people have access to computer
above
them have the ability to alter decisions. Should they be able to, that’s
another question.
Gary
From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 9:05 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] Paper Manuals?
Good Morning,
Has
.org
From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 9:05 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Paper Manuals?
Good Morning,
Has anyone had any success in getting standards writers and/or evaluation
organizations to accept an elect
Good Morning,
Has anyone had any success in getting standards writers and/or evaluation
organizations to accept an electronic version of a manual as an equivalent
alternative to a paper version even when the standard refers to a paper manual?
I am getting mixed signals from various
Avionics EMC Is Our Specialty
From: Price, Edward
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 7:23 AM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Chase GP4403 Manuals
A recent poster asked about service manuals for a Chase GP4403 EMI Receiver.
Although I’m not at all familiar with Chase gear, a friend suggested
A recent poster asked about service manuals for a Chase GP4403 EMI Receiver.
Although I’m not at all familiar with Chase gear, a friend suggested that,
depending on the age, the Chase equipment might be re-badged Rohde Schwartz
equipment.
FWIW.
Ed Price
ed.pr...@cubic.com blocked
Does anyone have manuals and schematics for IFI 423 and IFI 5520 that we can
“borrow” while repairing them?
We contacted IFI and they said they did not have them otherwise I would not
ask at this forum.
Manualsplus.com does not have them either.
Thanks in advance and please reply off-list
All,
I've seen various implementations of WEEE statements in user manuals.
Some contain 20+ language translations of a short statement regarding how to
recycle your product, while others have just a passing mention in a single
language (I presume the entire manual is translated in this case
: WEEE statements in user manuals?
All,
I've seen various implementations of WEEE statements in user manuals.
Some contain 20+ language translations of a short statement regarding how to
recycle your product, while others have just a passing mention in a single
language (I presume the entire
-p...@ieee.org
Subject: WEEE statements in user manuals?
All,
I've seen various implementations of WEEE statements in user manuals.
Some contain 20+ language translations of a short statement regarding how to
recycle your product, while others have just a passing mention in a single
language
computer system. Thank you.
Save paper and trees! Please consider the environment before printing this
e-mail.
Dave Heald emcp...@gmail.com
Sent by: emc-p...@ieee.org
01/15/2009 10:47 AM To
emc-p...@ieee.org
cc
Subject
WEEE statements in user manuals
manuals?
The implementation of the directive is down to the “producer” within the
individual member state in accordance with member state legislation. Article
10 of the directive is the base requirement
http://www.epeat.net/Docs/EU%20WEEE%20Directive.pdf
Some mfrs whether or not they have
In message
f51035525f51b14d9b6e90f85793591324ea5...@pysxmb02.dialogic.com, dated
Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Daniel Roman dan.ro...@dialogic.com writes:
And while the Directive applies to household and professional
equipment, Article 10 states in part ?Member States shall ensure that
users of
.
From: Daniel Roman [mailto:dan.ro...@dialogic.com]
Sent: 15 January 2009 17:45
To: James, Chris; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: WEEE statements in user manuals?
And while the Directive applies to household and professional equipment,
Article 10 states in part “Member States shall
So that's kind of like design validation by the customer, right? Build
it, ship it, let the customer figure out what works and how? I know a
few companies that work like that, why not the EU Commission?
Scott Douglas
John Woodgate wrote:
In message
In message 496f8d24.5050...@ptcnh.net, dated Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Scott
Douglas sdoug...@ptcnh.net writes:
So that's kind of like design validation by the customer, right? Build
it, ship it, let the customer figure out what works and how? I know a
few companies that work like that, why not the
for Harnesses and Manuals
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 7:46 AM
Dear approval experts,
I am working on CCC approvals for some Automated Teller Machines (ATMs)
at
present, and have come across some certification difficulties
Dear approval experts,
I am working on CCC approvals for some Automated Teller Machines (ATMs) at
present, and have come across some certification difficulties regarding
harnesses and operator manuals. I would be grateful if you could share any
similar CCC experiences with me, either by way
Craig,
I will respond to your first question offline.
For the question regarding manuals, from my understanding, the answer is yes.
A manufacturer must ship a manual in Chinese with a product.
I hope this helps.
Grace
On 8/25/08, Petrie, Craig D cp185...@ncr.com wrote:
Dear
Approvals
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of David Heald
Sent: woensdag 9 augustus 2006 15:28
To: ri...@ieee.org
Cc: Don Clayton; Gemignani Robert; emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: Electronic Copies of Instruction Manuals
Rich,
Thanks
EU required safety guides would of course
be in the box, but this paper is mostly English).
Thanks all,
-Dave
On 8/8/06, Richard Nute rn...@san.rr.com wrote:
Hi Don:
Can manufacturers ship products now with electronic manuals,
including important safeguards, worldwide with hard-copies
Richard Nute wrote
Within the European Union:
The safety warnings and safety instructions
needed to ensure that electrical equipment
will be used safely and for intended
applications shall be marked on the equipment.
If this is not possible the warnings and
Hi Don:
Can manufacturers ship products now with electronic manuals,
including important safeguards, worldwide with hard-copies
suppilied if requested by customers. These products fall
under EN60950
Download:
http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/lv
Group:
This is an old thread but here goes:
Can manufacturers ship products now with electronic manuals, including
important safeguards, worldwide with hard-copies suppilied if requested
by customers. These products fall under EN60950
Don Clayton
ESR Engineering Inc.
-
This message is from
Peter,
You must provide operation and safety related instructions in the
language(s) of the country of the end user. Maintainance manuals can
be in a different language if there is an agreement between the
manufacturer and the people who will be performing the maintenance
(e.g
in the country in which the machine is being used.
According to Appendix I, section 1.7.4 paragraph (b) Is this not the
correct interpretation or what ?
It can be in a language ACCEPTABLE in that country. Machines for Ireland
don't have to have the manuals in Irish Gaelic!
2)
In same paragraph, its
)
Is this not the correct interpretation or what ?
2)
In same paragraph, its mentioned that maintainance manuals, can be in
one of the EU languages.
Does this ONLY apply if the service personell are employed by the
producer of the machine or his distributor ?
Best regards
PBI-Dansensor
Peter Weichel
Test
, and Equipment Manuals
EMC-PSTC'ers,
I've just posted a web page http://www.dbicorporation.com/sources.htm
with links to the web pages of companies and organizations that:
* Sell electronics books.
* Publish electronics books.
* Sell electronics standards.
* Publish electronics standards.
* Sell
EMC-PSTC'ers,
I've just posted a web page http://www.dbicorporation.com/sources.htm
with links to the web pages of companies and organizations that:
* Sell electronics books.
* Publish electronics books.
* Sell electronics standards.
* Publish electronics standards.
* Sell equipment manuals
it
in
the archive.
There was a thread a few months ago about sources for equipment
manuals
for old equipment. I wonder if these companies / websites could be
reposted.
Just on the off chance, I don't suppose anyone has circuit diagrams
for
an RF Power Labs 220-525A (500W) amplifier.
Thanks
Of Luke Turnbull
Sent: 25 November 2004 12:06
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Old Manuals
Dear group,
Sorry for this request for repeated information, but I can't find it
in
the archive.
There was a thread a few months ago about sources for equipment
manuals
for old equipment. I wonder
Hi folks,
I'm writing a software driver for the HP 8566/8 Spectrum analysers, and I have
the manuals for these two instruments. However, I now need to control the
Quasipeak Adapter and Preselector, but I don't have the manuals for these two.
Can anyone point me to them, ideally in .pdf. Failing
Hi All,
Can anyone point me to a source for HP equipment manuals, ideally, downloadable
Thanks,
Derek N. Walton
Owner L F Research EMC Design and Test Facility
Poplar Grove,
Illinois, USA
www.lfresearch.com
From: lfresea...@aol.com [mailto:lfresea...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 6:13 AM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: HP Equipment Manuals
Hi All,
Can anyone point me to a source for HP equipment manuals, ideally, downloadable
Thanks,
Derek N. Walton
Owner L F Research EMC Design and Test
Language, and is available online at
http://www.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/english/charter/title1chapter7.html.
Best regards,
Steve
Gerald Tammi gera...@zoom.com 5/1/2003 9:51:33 AM
I have just gone through a major project as it applies to language.
The EU directives only require that the manuals
...@lutron.com]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 4:55 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org; gera...@zoom.com
Cc: Bob Spehalski
Subject: RE: EU Language requirements for Manuals
I am involved in a similar language project. Like Gerald, I am finding that
these rules come from governmental legislation (not just from
...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: EU Language requirements for Manuals
I have just gone through a major project as it applies to language.
The EU directives only require that the manuals (user and service) and the DoC
be in an official language of the EU (13 possibilities). However it gives the
local
Where would one find a translator for Elbonian?
Dave
From: Tyra, John [mailto:john_t...@bose.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 2:39 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: EU Language requirements for Manuals
Hello everyone,
I was hoping someone out there could help me determine
www.dilbert.com http://www.dilbert.com/ ?
From: drcuthb...@micron.com [mailto:drcuthb...@micron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 3:38 PM
To: john_t...@bose.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: EU Language requirements for Manuals
Where would one find a translator
[mailto:john_t...@bose.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 11:39 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: EU Language requirements for Manuals
Hello everyone,
I was hoping someone out there could help me determine what are the language
requirements for translation of manuals for the CE-Mark.
As I am
I read in !emc-pstc that drcuthb...@micron.com wrote (in CFEFA50C9BCAD2
1197470001fa7eba6b14121...@ntexchange05.micron.com) about 'EU Language
requirements for Manuals' on Tue, 29 Apr 2003:
Where would one find a translator for Elbonian?
Ask on sci.lang.translation.marketplace
--
Regards, John
requirements for Manuals
Hello everyone,
I was hoping someone out there could help me determine what are the language
requirements for translation of manuals for the CE-Mark.
As I am sure most of you know Bose makes Audio/Video products. Our products
fall under the LVD, EMC, and for wireless
Hello everyone,
I was hoping someone out there could help me determine what are the language
requirements for translation of manuals for the CE-Mark.
As I am sure most of you know Bose makes Audio/Video products. Our products
fall under the LVD, EMC, and for wireless remotes the RTTE
Joe,
First, use Adobe Acrobat (.pdf) for the actual manuals. This is rapidly
becoming the defacto world standard for on-line documentation. You can link
to them from .html web pages easily. You can also burn them onto a CD-ROM if
you need to include manuals with the product.
Acrobat has
...@worldwidepackets.com
Cc: dick.grob...@medgraph.com; marti...@appliedbiosystems.com;
emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: UL Acceptance of On-Line Manuals
Safety standards specify topics which must be
addressed in manuals. Only those portions of
the manual addressing those specific safety
topics
forwarded for Joshua
Reply Separator
Subject:RE: UL Acceptance of On-Line Manuals
Author: Joshua Wiseman jwise...@printronix.com
List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org
Date: 7/28/00 7:47 AM
I don't know about UL and the EU, but I know that BSMI
Safety standards specify topics which must be
addressed in manuals. Only those portions of
the manual addressing those specific safety
topics are controlled by the certifier. The
remainder of the manual is controlled by the
product manufacturer; this remainder may be
provided in any
the solution to them
Gary
-Original Message-
From: Dick Grobner [mailto:dick.grob...@medgraph.com]
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 6:18 AM
To: 'marti...@appliedbiosystems.com'
Cc: IEEE EMC-PSTC E-Mail Forum (E-mail)
Subject:RE: UL Acceptance of On-Line Manuals
We have played
We have played with the idea but have consistently talked ourselves out of
it. Reasons have been:
- the ability to read the manuals (one also needs to provide a copy of some
sort of reader software such as Adobe)
- Revision control is a concern along with the cost.
- Our manuals are quite complex
We are planning to switch over to an on-line system for our User Manuals. Does
anyone have any experience with using an on-line system? Does the user have the
same access as with paper manuals? What are the downsides of such a system?
Has anyone dealt with UL and the European Union
proportion of
your customers _will_ use it.
Taking the example of the 'unplug before servicing' warning, I'd think
carefully about leaving basic and common warnings such as this out of
instruction manuals even for products which are only ever going to be used
by experienced personnel. It's
...@lucent.com tgr...@lucent.com
Lucent Technologies, Communications Applications Group
--
From: Richard Lanzillotto [SMTP:rl...@concentric.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 1:23 PM
To: Russell, Ray; 'IEEE PSTC'
Subject: Re: Manuals
I recommend you refer to the particular safety standard
, November 10, 1999 4:21 PM
Subject: Manuals
Greetings,
In this day and age of trying to cover your butt, from liability
(especially
in the USA), I have found it interesting that the information in some User
manuals are going to the extreme to warn the consumer, while other similar
products have
Greetings,
In this day and age of trying to cover your butt, from liability (especially
in the USA), I have found it interesting that the information in some User
manuals are going to the extreme to warn the consumer, while other similar
products have very few warnings.
In addition, our
Greetings to all,
My company just bought some LAMBDA LA-200 and LA-250 Regulated
Power Supplies without manuals.
I have tried to acquire these manuals from LAMBDA put they don't
have any.
Can someone out there help us with this request?
We will gladly take a copier copy of each
I have one comment to make regarding your B scenario that English only is
acceptable for service manuals. If you are applying for a German safety
mark (Bauart or GS), the German deviations to IEC 950 apply, which means
that instructions relating to safety must be translated into German even
I have two questions for the group to consider, concerning the languages which
are to be provided in manuals.
My understanding of IEC 950 paragraph 1.7.14 of the languages required in
manuals is as follows:
A - Safety Instructions
Whenever the information provided deals with safety
littlew...@aol.com wrote:
Do all EU countries have similar laws to the UK?
Yes, this is the basic understanding in the EU to eliminate barriers to
trade - (ideally.).
However, there are still some special national conditions in existance
in the different countries in the EU, see the
Hi Francie.
You wrote:
For unintentional and intentional radiators:
Which specific standard states the requirements for the CE mark on
packaging, data sheets and manuals? Besides the CE mark on equipment,
I've been told that there are requirements for statements in manuals
For unintentional and intentional radiators:
Which specific standard states the requirements for the CE mark on
packaging, data sheets and manuals? Besides the CE mark on equipment,
I've been told that there are requirements for statements in manuals and
on literature (data sheets) declaring
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