Re: The UD as a knotted string

Hi Bruno, All of Lou's ideas have a common thread, but I wonder which one's you have in mind. On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > On 25 Sep 2016, at 16:32, Stephen Paul King wrote: > > Hi, > > Is there any reason why the

Re: A question for Bruno

I apologize but it seems that none of us has time to explain other people's ideas to each other or to read their papers for ourselves. On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > On 16 Sep 2016, at 03:27, Stephen Paul King wrote: > > Th

Re: A question for Bruno

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > On 16 Sep 2016, at 01:29, Stephen Paul King wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> > wrote: > >> >> >> On 9/

Re: A question for Bruno

That's a good example, actually! On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:17 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > Can you give an example? What I'm led to think of is something like: > % Add two and two > print "4" > halt > > Brent > > > >

Re: A question for Bruno

The idea is to think of computations as discrete, they do one thing: process one algorithm and halt. Obviously I am not talking about Turing machines... On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 9:03 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > On 9/15/2016 4:29 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote:

Re: A question for Bruno

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > On 9/15/2016 11:03 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote: > > I get that and buy it too, Brent. Platonia is the "flat" Complete version, > I am looking for the infinite tower of incomple

Re: A question for Bruno

e TauChain. On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > According to Bruno it's in Platonia. It's timeless and doesn't "go", it > just IS, like 2+2 IS 4. > > Brent > > On 9/15/2016 10:13 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote: >

Re: A question for Bruno

2016, at 13:44, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > > On 15 September 2016 at 05:25, Stephen Paul King < > stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote: > >> Hi Stathis, >> >>I really like this explanation of supervenience. I only worry that we >> ne

Re: A question for Bruno

there is an > implicit order (the execution of the UD), but there is no inherent relative > order of the threads. > > Brent > > On 9/15/2016 9:15 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote: > > There is "time is a measure of change" concept, which lines up with what > you're sayi

Re: A question for Bruno

Could it be that the concrete is the subjective reflection of the abstract? On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > On 9/15/2016 4:44 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > > On 15 September 2016 at 05:25, Stephen Paul King <

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Re: A question for Bruno

Not to rehash an old chestnut, but can a bit dance on an infinitesimal? On Sep 13, 2016 10:22 AM, "Stathis Papaioannou" wrote: > > > On Sunday, 11 September 2016, Brent Meeker wrote: > >> In the UD model of the world, time as we perceive it, is

Re: A question for Bruno

Hi, Is there any consideration of the duration of the period of time of the moment? Are they assumed to have vanishingly small durations? On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 7:44:16 PM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 11:38 PM, Charles Goodwin > wrote:

Re: Reversing time = local reversal of thermodynamic arrows?

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Re: Do today's philosophers even think about the existence of God anymore?

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Re: Do today's philosophers even think about the existence of God anymore?

), otherwise I thing we agree. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 16 Oct 2014, at 16:48, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Hi Telmo, You wrote: If I understand the ideas

Re: Do today's philosophers even think about the existence of God anymore?

of the concept yet... On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Hi Telmo, One event involved an email exchange that I has with two people. We where discussing

Re: Do today's philosophers even think about the existence of God anymore?

Hi Telmo, On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Hi Telmo, You wrote: If I understand the ideas in Mitra's paper correctly, wouldn't it require that you

Re: Do today's philosophers even think about the existence of God anymore?

:53 PM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@charter.net wrote: Hi Brent, I have had a couple of experiences that proved to me that there exists something like the theist God. Things that I can not explain otherwise are some kind of divine intervention that saved my life. Could

Re: Do today's philosophers even think about the existence of God anymore?

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Re: Do today's philosophers even think about the existence of God anymore?

Hi Brent, I have had a couple of experiences that proved to me that there exists something like the theist God. Things that I can not explain otherwise are some kind of divine intervention that saved my life. Could there be an explanation that is completely secular? I am open to such, but

Re: Do today's philosophers even think about the existence of God anymore?

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Reversing time = local reversal of thermodynamic arrows?

. This decoherence thing, IMHO, needs to be looked at carefully. In deference to Bruno, I should ask a question relevant to the ongoing discussions. Is a finite universe with locally reversible time consistent as a 1p world? -- Kindest Regards, Stephen Paul King -- You received this message because

Re: AI Dooms Us

...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 01 Sep 2014, at 17:57, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi Brent, Have you seen any studies of the Ameoba dubia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polychaos_dubium that look into what their genome is expressing? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2933061/ seems

Re: AI Dooms Us

right... On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:22 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Does this mean evolution is intelligent but (probably) not conscious? On 20 September 2014 03:01, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Dear Bruno, I agree, this introduces the possibility

Re: Higgs Boson particle, a.k.a. the God particle, could end the universe

:46, Stephen Paul King stephe...@charter.net wrote: Hi, Has any one figured out how Hawking for that number and will you explain it to us? Do energies of that scale even occur in the formation of black holes? On Sunday, September 7, 2014 11:17:19 PM UTC-4, cdemorsella wrote: What do

Re: Higgs Boson particle, a.k.a. the God particle, could end the universe

17:46, Stephen Paul King stephe...@charter.net wrote: Hi, Has any one figured out how Hawking for that number and will you explain it to us? Do energies of that scale even occur in the formation of black holes? On Sunday, September 7, 2014 11:17:19 PM UTC-4, cdemorsella wrote: What do

Re: Higgs Boson particle, a.k.a. the God particle, could end the universe

:46, Stephen Paul King stephe...@charter.net wrote: Hi, Has any one figured out how Hawking for that number and will you explain it to us? Do energies of that scale even occur in the formation of black holes? On Sunday, September 7, 2014 11:17:19 PM UTC-4, cdemorsella wrote: What do

Re: Higgs Boson particle, a.k.a. the God particle, could end the universe

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Fish can communicate and UNDERSTAND each other!

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Re: Higgs Boson particle, a.k.a. the God particle, could end the universe

Hi, Has any one figured out how Hawking for that number and will you explain it to us? Do energies of that scale even occur in the formation of black holes? On Sunday, September 7, 2014 11:17:19 PM UTC-4, cdemorsella wrote: What do the physicists on this list think about Hawkins recent

Re: AI Dooms Us

Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto: everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Paul King We learn of each other by interacting this becomes communication once languages emerge... Want to point out

Re: AI Dooms Us

'intelligence'. It reminds me of the debates in the 19th century about the origin of life. On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:10 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 September 2014 16:42, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Nah, I get what you mean. Connecting an AGI to a body is one

Re: AI Dooms Us

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Re: AI Dooms Us

://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Paperclip_maximizer On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: AFAIK, if the AGI and humanity are not competing for the same resources, no conflict need arise... On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Terren Suydam terren.suy...@gmail.com

Re: AI Dooms Us

terren.suy...@gmail.com wrote: http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Paperclip_maximizer On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: AFAIK, if the AGI and humanity are not competing for the same resources, no conflict need arise... On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11

Re: AI Dooms Us

of AGI. On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Hi Terren, Ah, nice link. Thank you. Does the assumption of a finite and fixed set of resources necessarily match the real world? If an AGI's computation can occur on any active and evolving

Re: AI Dooms Us

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Re: my artificial scientist

Very Nice Telmo! We need to talk! I am working with Marius Muliga and Lou Kauffman and others on a form of 'software computer that might run on top of your networks! See: http://arxiv.org/abs/1312.4333 On Friday, September 5, 2014 8:20:20 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: Hi all, Since

Re: AI Dooms Us

Hi, I am looking for any papers on the effects of allowing neural networks to couple to each other On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:16 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 September 2014 17:02, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Are the resources available

Re: AI Dooms Us

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Re: AI Dooms Us

Hi LizR, I will repeat my question: What makes us think that the AGI will be aware that we exist? On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:21 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 September 2014 00:38, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Hi, OTOH, one can control the available

Re: AI Dooms Us

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. On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:08 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 September 2014 12:58, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Hi LizR, I will repeat my question: What makes us think that the AGI will be aware that we exist? Surely that depends on circumstances

Re: AI Dooms Us

. In this particular scenario, it seems very unlikely it wouldn't be aware that other people existed. (Excuse me, I have to go AFK for a bit. I need to recharge my batteries...) On 5 September 2014 13:08, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 September 2014 12:58, Stephen Paul King stephe

Re: AI Dooms Us

on a conversation with an AI of sufficient cognitive ability (and the motivation to do so). Terren On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: But you seem to assume that it has awareness of people beyond the sensor data + computations that it can access

Re: AI Dooms Us

I agree, but I strongly suspect that one does not program an AGI, we would grow it and teach it On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:15 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 September 2014 15:13, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: But you seem to assume that it has awareness

Re: AI Dooms Us

We learn of each other by interacting this becomes communication once languages emerge... On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:16 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 September 2014 15:18, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Sure, that would set up synchronization of sensory data

Re: AI Dooms Us

Nah, I get what you mean. Connecting an AGI to a body is one way of teaching it to recognize us, but do we really want to do that? On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:18 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 September 2014 16:08, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: We are freaking

Re: AI Dooms Us

Hi Chris, Could you send me your thoughts about dependency injection to my gmail address so that we can continue? kingstephenp...@gmail.com On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Hi Chris, Could we discuss this further outside

Re: AI Dooms Us

, we last. Then we are out. (A similarly unfounded fantasy - just as the so called 'scientific' ones). John M On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: What if the aliens are AI? On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:19 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote

Re: AI Dooms Us

Umm, not really. It is exploitation. On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:43 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 September 2014 13:38, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Hi John, why would have want the Zookeepers intelligence from the Earthlings? Did you mean, Why would

Re: AI Dooms Us

Humans interacting with each other form very nice (in terms of expressiveness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expressive_power) adaptive networks. On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Umm, not really. It is exploitation. On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9

Re: AI Dooms Us

Umm, explain: Absorbed. I'm not groking it... On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:46 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 September 2014 13:45, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Umm, not really. It is exploitation. Only if you aren't absorbed. Otherwise you'd only be exploiting

Re: AI Dooms Us

Zerg http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Overmind! ? On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:46 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 September 2014 13:45, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Umm, not really. It is exploitation. Only if you aren't absorbed. Otherwise you'd only

Re: AI Dooms Us

the opposite direction: minds tend to diverge and become diverse and not merge to an infinite limit. Merging actually destroys information. Witness the Black Hole. On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:53 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 September 2014 13:48, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com

Re: AI Dooms Us

...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 September 2014 13:48, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Zerg http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Overmind! ? Well, quite. I believe the name comes from Childhood's End although obviously Olaf Stapledon was writing about it (and influencing Clarke

Re: AI Dooms Us

​Right! Damping down random fluctuations in one's computer is an optimization move. Oh!, your thinking in more Borg terms, re: absorption​ On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:25 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 September 2014 14:06, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote

Re: AI Dooms Us

But something is amiss! Why would the OverLords wish to share their largess with us? On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:25 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 September 2014 14:06, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: OTOH, becoming capable of exploiting computational resources

Re: AI Dooms Us

Are the resources available to the OverLords that would allow the sharing to be cost-free then it would make no difference, otherwise On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:37 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 September 2014 14:31, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote

Re: AI Dooms Us

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Re: AI Dooms Us

to exist and to be sequentiable properly. On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:48 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 September 2014 12:43, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Hi LizR, My point about Aliens being AGI is simple. A sufficiently advanced alien civilization may very

Re: AI Dooms Us

. If that distributed computation is an AGI, we would never know it is there and neither would it know we are here. On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:23 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 September 2014 15:09, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Hi LizR, But here is the thing

Re: AI Dooms Us

Hi LizR, Sequentiable means that the correct sequence of operations occurs. Information is sensitive to orderings after all. 101001010010 is not the same number as 00100110001 On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:23 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 September 2014 15:09, Stephen Paul King

Re: AI Dooms Us

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Re: AI Dooms Us

Modulo decryption On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:59 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 September 2014 15:45, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Hi LizR, Sequentiable means that the correct sequence of operations occurs. Information is sensitive to orderings after

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...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Hold it! Where is the information about the physical system required to run that 750 Meg of information contained? DNA contains information on how to make stuff but it doesn't actually

Re: AI Dooms Us

, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Hold it! Where is the information about the physical system required to run that 750 Meg of information contained? DNA contains information on how to make stuff but it doesn't actually do anything, only proteins and RNA

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*Subject:* Re: AI Dooms Us On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Hold it! Where is the information about the physical system required to run that 750 Meg of information contained? DNA contains information on how to make stuff

Re: AI Dooms Us

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Re: AI Dooms Us

: *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto: everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Paul King *Sent:* Monday, September 01, 2014 2:53 PM *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: AI Dooms Us Hi Chris, A colleague of mine has found a few possible

Re: AI Dooms Us

] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Paul King Are our fears of AI running amuck and killing random persons based on unfounded assumptions? Perhaps, and I see your point. However, am going to try to make the following case: If we take AI as some emergent networked meta-system, arising in a non-linear

Re: AI Dooms Us

Are our fears of AI running amuck and killing random persons based on unfounded assumptions? On Monday, August 25, 2014 3:20:24 PM UTC-4, cdemorsella wrote: AI is being developed and funded primarily by agencies such as DARPA, NSA, DOD (plus MIC contractors). After all smart drones with

Re: AI Dooms Us

question is: Would AI have a view of the universe that can be matched up with ours? If not, how would we expect it to see the world that it interacts with? Our worlds and that of AI may be disjoint! On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@charter.net wrote: Are our fears

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

at 12:44 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 12:23:35AM -0400, Richard Ruquist wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 04:30:52PM -0400, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi Russell

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi Russell, I don't get it. How does the constraint of a finite sample overcome the inherent zero measure? Because a finite constraint matches an infinite number of zero measure items. Consider the set of real numbers matching the constraint that the initial

Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

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-0400, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi, Bruno wrote previously ...the physical reality has to be given by the measure on all computations. Would this not imply that physical reality has a zero measure? My point is that given that the chance of the occurrence of a physical universe

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

Hi Russell, I don't get it. How does the constraint of a finite sample overcome the inherent zero measure? On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 06:44:20PM -0400, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi Russell, Let me rephrase

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Hi, This phrase in the article makes me doubt that the writer thereof did his homework: for some unknown reason the flashes synchronize over time.” The synchronization of weakly coupled oscillators is a well known phenomena! It should be pointed out that in the human brain, global

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generation of idiots and their shepherds 2014-04-10 12:51 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Read Corona's post carefully. I did, and I find his general ideas interesting and worth

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planified, we are gonna suffer another cycle of wrong ideas thanks to the new generation of idiots and their shepherds 2014-04-10 12:51 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Read Corona's

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fight alone and will win inevitably against the ones that deny it. The problem is the price to pay in the process 2014-04-10 18:38 GMT+02:00 Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com: Alberto, Don't feed the trolls... On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor

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: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Read Corona's post carefully. I did, and I find his general ideas interesting and worth considering. I don't quire agree that space exploration cannot compete with religion. When I was growing up, I

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Dear Alberto, Hear Hear! On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comwrote: On 7 April 2014 15:47, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.comwrote: Hi Liz, Why is there no interest in developing tech to get us off the planet? Why is there a retreat

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Dear Telmo, It isn't moralism if it has a measure that can be objectively defined. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote: On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comwrote: On 7 April 2014 15:47, Stephen Paul King stephe

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Read Corona's post carefully. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Dear Telmo, It isn't moralism if it has a measure that can be objectively defined. Hi

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