RE: Just A Few Minutes Of Meditation May Reduce Stress, Study Finds

Interesting validation of what has been my own anecdotal experience. Just A Few Minutes Of Meditation May Reduce Stress, Study <http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2014/07/03/just-a-few-minutes-of-m indfulness-meditation-may-reduce-stress/> Finds -- You received this message b

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On 28 Jan 2013, at 00:07, Telmo Menezes wrote: Dear Bruno and Stephen, On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Stephen P. King > wrote: On 1/27/2013 7:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The big bang remains awkward with computationalism. It suggest a long and deep computations is going through our state

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On 30 Jan 2013, at 09:30, meekerdb wrote: On 1/29/2013 6:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Comp predicts an infinite past. What does that mean? That the UD has performed infinitely many steps before *now*? Before the 1-now, yes. By first person indeterminacy, all the computations seem to be

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Hi Bruno Marchal I don't, except to report it. - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-28, 14:24:05 Subject: Re: meditation On 27 Jan 2013, at 14:06, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal IMHO meditation is a perf

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On 1/29/2013 6:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Comp predicts an infinite past. What does that mean? That the UD has performed infinitely many steps before *now*? Or do you propose a more physical measure based on entropy? Brent But that infinity can play before the big bang, but also, perhaps

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On 1/29/2013 9:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 27 Jan 2013, at 18:27, Stephen P. King wrote: On 1/27/2013 7:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The big bang remains awkward with computationalism. It suggest a long and deep computations is going through our state, but comp suggest that the big bang is

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On 1/29/2013 8:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 27 Jan 2013, at 07:09, meekerdb wrote: On 1/26/2013 9:53 PM, Jason Resch wrote: I think what you are describing comes automatically with comp, as any observer only knows their direct observations, which could be created by any one of an infinite

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On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:20:11 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Bruno Marchal > > > wrote: > > > > On 27 Jan 2013, at 18:27, Stephen P. King wrote: > > > >> On 1/27/2013 7:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >>> > >>> The big bang remains awkward with computat

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On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 27 Jan 2013, at 18:27, Stephen P. King wrote: > >> On 1/27/2013 7:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> The big bang remains awkward with computationalism. It suggest a long and >>> deep computations is going through our state, but comp su

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On 27 Jan 2013, at 20:46, meekerdb wrote: On 1/27/2013 5:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Jan 2013, at 23:12, meekerdb wrote: On 1/25/2013 8:22 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Even the idea that we are unconscious during deep sleep does not convince me. We could be conscious but without read

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On 27 Jan 2013, at 18:27, Stephen P. King wrote: On 1/27/2013 7:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The big bang remains awkward with computationalism. It suggest a long and deep computations is going through our state, but comp suggest that the big bang is not the beginning. Dear Bruno, I th

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On 27 Jan 2013, at 07:09, meekerdb wrote: On 1/26/2013 9:53 PM, Jason Resch wrote: I think what you are describing comes automatically with comp, as any observer only knows their direct observations, which could be created by any one of an infinite number of possible programs going thro

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On 27 Jan 2013, at 13:49, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Well, meditations might be enough, perhaps. Sleep leads also to dissociate state, simpler version of oneself, and the resulting strange "realities". Even the idea that we are unco

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On 27 Jan 2013, at 14:06, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal IMHO meditation is a perfectly natural phenomenon that does not need to be "integrated" into anything. ? Then, why do you integrate it in the natural phenomenon? Bruno - Receiving the following content

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On 27 Jan 2013, at 13:44, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Jan 2013, at 16:41, Roger Clough wrote: I think that meditation is a way of cutting out the links of consciousness to the noise of the brain, suggesting that Cs is not a product

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t: Re: meditation On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Telmo Menezes > wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi Telmo, On 24 Jan 2013, at 16:17, Telmo Menezes wrote: Hi all, I was thinking about meditation and how people report experiences of "oneness with the un

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Dear Dan, On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 11:41 PM, freqflyer07281972 < thismindisbud...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Telmo, > > With my recent post fresh in my mind, I think I can engage with you a bit > on the meaning and purpose of meditation. > > I think the main point of medit

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Dear Bruno and Stephen, On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: > On 1/27/2013 7:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> The big bang remains awkward with computationalism. It suggest a long and >> deep computations is going through our state, but comp suggest that the big >> bang is no

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Dear Telmo, With my recent post fresh in my mind, I think I can engage with you a bit on the meaning and purpose of meditation. I think the main point of meditation is to see 'what is' for 'what it is.' Nothing more, nothing less. All 'other worlds, other universes,

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On 1/27/2013 1:19 PM, Jason Resch wrote: It is merely a strange and unsettling thing to understand that when consequence of some fact is not part of your current observer moment, said fact is indeterminant (in many possible states) until you bring some consequence of that fact into your current

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On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 1:36 AM, meekerdb wrote: > On 1/26/2013 11:18 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:09 AM, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 1/26/2013 9:53 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> I think what you are describing comes automatically with comp, as any >> observer only know

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te: >> >>> Hi Telmo, >>> >>> >>> On 24 Jan 2013, at 16:17, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was thinking about meditation and how people report experiences of >>>> "oneness with the u

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On 1/27/2013 5:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Jan 2013, at 23:12, meekerdb wrote: On 1/25/2013 8:22 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Even the idea that we are unconscious during deep sleep does not convince me. We could be conscious but without read/write access to our memories, so how would we kn

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On 1/27/2013 7:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The big bang remains awkward with computationalism. It suggest a long and deep computations is going through our state, but comp suggest that the big bang is not the beginning. Dear Bruno, I think that comp plus some finite limit on resources =

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--- Receiving the following content - > *From:* Jason Resch > *Receiver:* everything-list > *Time:* 2013-01-27, 00:53:25 > *Subject:* Re: meditation > > > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Telmo Menezes > > > wrote: > >> >> >

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On 25 Jan 2013, at 23:12, meekerdb wrote: On 1/25/2013 8:22 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Even the idea that we are unconscious during deep sleep does not convince me. We could be conscious but without read/write access to our memories, so how would we know afterwords? But maybe we are exper

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Hi Bruno Marchal IMHO meditation is a perfectly natural phenomenon that does not need to be "integrated" into anything. - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-27, 07:09:43 Subject: Re: meditation On 25 Jan 2013

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On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 25 Jan 2013, at 17:22, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> Hi Telmo, >> >> >> On 24 Jan 2013, at 16:17, Telmo Menezes wrote: >&g

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On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 25 Jan 2013, at 16:41, Roger Clough wrote: > > I think that meditation is a way of cutting out the > links of consciousness to the noise of the brain, > suggesting that Cs is not a product of the brain, > rather

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n 24 Jan 2013, at 16:17, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was thinking about meditation and how people report experiences of >>>> "oneness with the universe", "non separation", etc. >>>> >>>&g

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On 25 Jan 2013, at 17:22, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi Telmo, On 24 Jan 2013, at 16:17, Telmo Menezes wrote: Hi all, I was thinking about meditation and how people report experiences of "oneness with the universe", "

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On 25 Jan 2013, at 16:41, Roger Clough wrote: I think that meditation is a way of cutting out the links of consciousness to the noise of the brain, suggesting that Cs is not a product of the brain, rather the reverse. It lets us experience Cs as it really is, cosmic, free of the brain. OK

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Hi Bruno, It isn't that we influence the universe, the universe IS us. - Receiving the following content - From: Jason Resch Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-27, 00:53:25 Subject: Re: meditation On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, J

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On 1/26/2013 11:18 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:09 AM, meekerdb > wrote: On 1/26/2013 9:53 PM, Jason Resch wrote: I think what you are describing comes automatically with comp, as any observer only knows their direct observations

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On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:09 AM, meekerdb wrote: > On 1/26/2013 9:53 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > I think what you are describing comes automatically with comp, as any > observer only knows their direct observations, which could be created by > any one of an infinite number of possible programs g

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On 1/26/2013 9:53 PM, Jason Resch wrote: I think what you are describing comes automatically with comp, as any observer only knows their direct observations, which could be created by any one of an infinite number of possible programs going through the same state. Any one of these programs will

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On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> Hi Telmo, >> >> >> On 24 Jan 2013, at 16:17, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> Hi all, >>> >>> I was thinki

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On Jan 25, 2013, at 4:12 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 1/25/2013 8:22 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Even the idea that we are unconscious during deep sleep does not convince me. We could be conscious but without read/write access to our memories, so how would we know afterwords? But maybe we are

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On 1/25/2013 8:22 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Even the idea that we are unconscious during deep sleep does not convince me. We could be conscious but without read/write access to our memories, so how would we know afterwords? But maybe we are experiencing the same level of consciousness as a bacter

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ow back on earth! Bruno Richard On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Telmo Menezes > wrote: Hi all, I was thinking about meditation and how people report experiences of "oneness with the universe", "non separation", etc. Meditation is a process of quieting the mi

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y > I no longer use it. > > > > - Receiving the following content - > *From:* Telmo Menezes > *Receiver:* everything-list > *Time:* 2013-01-25, 11:12:18 > *Subject:* Re: What I learned from meditation > > Hi Roger, > > Where did you learn to do TM? > >

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Hi Telmo Menezes >From a local TM group. It really works, but now that I've gone back to Christianity I no longer use it. - Receiving the following content - From: Telmo Menezes Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-25, 11:12:18 Subject: Re: What I learned from meditat

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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > Hi Telmo, > > > On 24 Jan 2013, at 16:17, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > Hi all, >> >> I was thinking about meditation and how people report experiences of >> "oneness with the universe", "non

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I can agree with that. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Roger Clough wrote: > I think that meditation is a way of cutting out the > links of consciousness to the noise of the brain, > suggesting that Cs is not a product of the brain, > rather the reverse. It lets us experienc

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Hi Roger, Where did you learn to do TM? On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Roger Clough wrote: > I did transcendental meditation for years. I learned two things: > > 1. That pure Cs is sweet, one gets to a sweet spot after a few minutes. > > 2. That the deeper you go, the faste

What I learned from meditation

I did transcendental meditation for years. I learned two things: 1. That pure Cs is sweet, one gets to a sweet spot after a few minutes. 2. That the deeper you go, the faster time seems to fly by. When you get very deep, there is no time, the meditation occurs in an instant. - Have

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I think that meditation is a way of cutting out the links of consciousness to the noise of the brain, suggesting that Cs is not a product of the brain, rather the reverse. It lets us experience Cs as it really is, cosmic, free of the brain. -- You received this message because you are

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Hi Telmo, On 24 Jan 2013, at 16:17, Telmo Menezes wrote: Hi all, I was thinking about meditation and how people report experiences of "oneness with the universe", "non separation", etc. Meditation is a process of quieting the mind. One could say reducing it's c

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an all the way home. > Richard > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Telmo Menezes > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I was thinking about meditation and how people report experiences of > > "oneness with the universe", "non separation", etc. >

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my sled and starred at the stars. It was then that I experienced 'oneness with the universe'. It scared the shit out of me and I ran all the way home. Richard On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > Hi all, > > I was thinking about meditation and how people re

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Hi all, I was thinking about meditation and how people report experiences of "oneness with the universe", "non separation", etc. Meditation is a process of quieting the mind. One could say reducing it's complexity. Simpler states have more undistinguishable observer