[FairfieldLife] Oldies but goldies?

2006-02-28 Thread cardemaister
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[FairfieldLife] Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: IMO *none* of them was either written by God or inspired by God. What a revolutionary claim made by a man not believing in God anyway. How could

[FairfieldLife] Great .sig file :-)

2006-02-28 Thread TurquoiseB
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
Thanks Barry for that elaborate response to just a nasty side remark of mine. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: IMO

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: That is the most realistic estimate any TM'er (Charlie Lutes) ever gave to how long it would take to *start* functioning from the *home* of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip uninteresting stuff to So if you've got another possibility other than the two I mentioned for WHY someone would believe such a thing, fire away.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip uninteresting stuff to So if you've got another possibility other than the two

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: If not, then I suggest that you continue to believe what you've chosen to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...

2006-02-28 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: What

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...

2006-02-28 Thread Vaj
On Feb 27, 2006, at 12:50 PM, authfriend wrote:I was actually serious. I often thought of you as similar to  Camille   (in a positive sense), therefore it was surprising to hear you  find   her offensive in some way and therefore the post seemed unlike   you...however... people often

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip uninteresting

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Vaj
On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:08 AM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The true definition of "Cosmic Consciousness" is samadhi 24/7/365 -- so what does that tell you about their promises about enlightenment? That they were overly optimistic.  duh

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Patrick Gillam
We've had a half-dozen contributors to this list who profess to be functioning from Brahman. I've read that the larger Fairfield community has a dozen or so who've awakened. MUM says it's doing research on a dozen or so people in CC. I get the impression that seven lifetimes stuff may apply

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've had a half-dozen contributors to this list who profess to be functioning from Brahman. I've read that the larger Fairfield community has a dozen or so who've awakened. MUM says it's doing research on a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Vaj
On Feb 28, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote:We've had a half-dozen contributors to this list  who profess to be functioning from Brahman.  I've read that the larger Fairfield community has  a dozen or so who've awakened. MUM says it's  doing research on a dozen or so people in CC.  I get

[FairfieldLife] Cults and Cosmic Consciousness: Religious Vision in the American 1960s

2006-02-28 Thread Vaj
Cults and Cosmic Consciousness: Religious Vision in the American 1960s by CAMILLE PAGLIAfull article at:http://www.bu.edu/arion/paglia_cults00.htmThe major Asian cult of the sixties was Transcendental Meditation, founded in India as the Spiritual Regeneration Movement by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread Vaj
On Feb 28, 2006, at 8:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:I didn't say that the experiences they have had are exactly  the ones that were described. But I believe most of them had  experiences of one sort or another, which made them go for  these very books, etc. For example, somebody had an experience 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of homosexuality...

2006-02-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: snip Even a fundamental Christian may have had an Awakening experience, and therefore believes that anything connected with that religion is true.

Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Rick Archer
on 2/27/06 6:41 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is the most realistic estimate any TM'er (Charlie Lutes) ever gave to how long it would take to *start* functioning from the *home* of all the laws of nature!! Even MMY himself said it would take a million years to reach CC (at

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: We've had a half-dozen contributors to this list who profess to be functioning from Brahman. I've read that the larger Fairfield community

Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness... on 2/27/06 7:13 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Aghori Vimalananda, spiritual mentor of Robert Svoboda was well learned in the ways of karma and also very passionate about testing and uncovering the falsity of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:08 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip The true definition of Cosmic Consciousness is samadhi 24/7/365 -- so what does that tell you about

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: We've had a half-dozen contributors to this list who profess to be functioning from Brahman. I've read that the larger Fairfield community has a dozen or so who've

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've had a half-dozen contributors to this list who profess to be functioning from Brahman. I've read that the larger Fairfield community has a dozen or so who've awakened. MUM says it's doing research on a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Vaj
On Feb 28, 2006, at 9:56 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: We've had a half-dozen contributors to this list who profess to be functioning from Brahman. I've read that the larger

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: That is the most realistic estimate any TM'er (Charlie Lutes) ever gave

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: We've had a half-dozen contributors to this list who profess to be functioning from Brahman. I've read that the larger Fairfield community

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: We've had a half-dozen contributors to this list who profess to be functioning from Brahman. I've read that the larger Fairfield community

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: We've had a half-dozen contributors to this list who profess to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 9:56 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: We've had a half-dozen contributors to this list

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws

2006-02-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: snip Even a fundamental Christian may have had an Awakening experience, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Vaj
On Feb 28, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 2/27/06 6:41 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is the most realistic estimate any TM'er (Charlie Lutes) ever gave to how long it would take to *start* functioning from the *home* of all the laws of nature!! Even MMY himself said it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Great .sig file :-)

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * If you meet the Buddha on the Internet, killfile him. Funny, yeah. But seriously I think, you can only kill the Buddha you were attached to at first. It means

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 8:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote [to trinity, who speaks first below]: I didn't say that the experiences they have had are exactly the ones that were described. But I believe most of them had experiences of

[FairfieldLife] Illinois UFO documentaries and timeline

2006-02-28 Thread SoulQuest7
Timeline for UFO sighting that inspired the Sufjan Stevens song Concerning the UFO Sighting Near Highland, Illinois. (Yes fans might reference the song Arriving UFO.) The Discovery Channel will rebroadcast a special, UFO OVER ILLINOIS on March 2nd and March 3rd (info at bottom). There is a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: snip Even a

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Rick Archer wrote: on 2/27/06 6:41 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is the most realistic estimate any TM'er (Charlie Lutes) ever gave to how long it would take to

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sues unrecertified governor

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: Ha, ha, ha, yes, I prefer the 'old coke', God help us all! Thank God I got TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Vaj
On Feb 28, 2006, at 10:44 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Rick Archer wrote: on 2/27/06 6:41 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is the most realistic estimate any TM'er (Charlie Lutes)  ever  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 8:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote [to trinity, who speaks first below]: I didn't say that the experiences they have had are exactly the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 10:44 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Rick Archer wrote: on 2/27/06 6:41 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sues unrecertified governor

2006-02-28 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip He himself as a 'Guru' is still there. He is the cosmic Guru, not a persona (Dakshinamurty), always available and guiding those serious about their soul-commitment. Everybody else may just speculate, or find his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Rick Archer
on 2/28/06 12:08 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The true definition of Cosmic Consciousness is samadhi 24/7/365 -- so what does that tell you about their promises about enlightenment? That they were overly

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Vaj
On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:03 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:Am I?  Yes, it is you who are self-defining the reality to which you are  reacting. Hence, it is all you.Because there is gold there is also fools gold--if they are all one, then fine. I'll take the gold you take the fool's gold. Don't worry,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread Vaj
On Feb 28, 2006, at 10:31 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 8:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote [to trinity, who speaks first below]: I didn't say that the experiences they have had are exactly the ones that were described. But I

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sues unrecertified governor

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: snip He himself as a 'Guru' is still there. He is the cosmic Guru, not a persona (Dakshinamurty), always available and guiding those serious about

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/28/06 12:08 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip The true definition of Cosmic Consciousness is samadhi 24/7/365 -- so what does

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sues unrecertified governor

2006-02-28 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: snip He himself as a 'Guru' is still there. He is the cosmic Guru, not a

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Rick Archer
on 2/28/06 10:19 AM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see you are doing the same thing, that is, stating the 'party' line, do you think we could go beyond that and talk as grown-up adults. I mean, I can take it, you know...7 lifetimes, OK! 700 years which is NOTHING in the grand

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And who's to say this isn't their 7th lifetime, or whatever? That's it. That was also Papaji's point stating too many are hanging around already too long. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/28/06 10:19 AM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see you are doing the same thing, that is, stating the 'party' line, do you think we could go beyond that and talk as grown-up adults. I mean, I can

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Rick Archer
on 2/28/06 10:32 AM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YOu would be correct if you were talking about the Gita where MMY talks about many 'births' to realize Being, that is death to materiality and Resurrection in Spirit and back being ONE birth, but this is NOT what Charlie was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many people were never taught how to approach a teacher or test a teacher. These IME are valuable things to know, no doubt. No doubt, there are criteria, laid out by scriptures (ha ha) about that, but it again depends on the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread Vaj
On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:42 AM, t3rinity wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many people were never taught how to approach a teacher or test a   teacher. These IME are valuable things to know, no doubt. No doubt, there are criteria, laid out by scriptures (ha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip But forget about the numbers. Assume a group of only ten people who have had

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/28/06 10:32 AM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YOu would be correct if you were talking about the Gita where MMY talks about many 'births' to realize Being, that is death to materiality and

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I'm not arguing that there aren't charlatans out there; there are. But even the charlatans may teach valuable stuff, just as the real teachers

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip But forget

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness..

2006-02-28 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
In a conversation I had with a priest in a Tamil temple he suggested that dong the Sidhis can burn off 7 lifetimes of Karma in one liftime. Go figure. Makes some sense to me. Tom T Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recent Brain scans show that there are areas that are involved and stimulated by seeing spiritual symbols, giving people those very experiences. I think, everything in life is an experience. Even trust is an experience

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 2/28/06 10:32 AM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YOu would be correct if you were talking about the Gita where MMY talks

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness..

2006-02-28 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a conversation I had with a priest in a Tamil temple he suggested that dong the Sidhis can burn off 7 lifetimes of Karma in one liftime. Go figure. Makes some sense to me. Tom T Indeed it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread TurquoiseB
I'll let you two talk. You seem convinced that you know what everyone is really saying, so it's kinda irrelevant for them to actually say anything. :-) Translation: Barry's peeved that I nailed what he said. Doncha just love it when someone is accused of doing something stupid

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: And who's to say this isn't their 7th lifetime, or whatever? That's it. That was also Papaji's point stating too many are hanging around

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I'm not arguing that there aren't charlatans out there; there are. But

[FairfieldLife] Is it a sin to question whether or not MMY is enlightened?

2006-02-28 Thread wmurphy77
Because sometimes I seriously wonder, and he has NEVER said so to my knowledge! He seems more like a bitter old man these days and sometimes the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. Also his pejorative comments about people and forms of governments is disturbing and leads

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sues unrecertified governor

2006-02-28 Thread anonyff
Maharishi may never have proclaimed directly that he was a Guru, although that is subject to argument (I contend that he has only I cannot remember any specific instances of this), however, his actions- many many many of his actions-clearly indicate that he considers himself a Guru and the actions

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it a sin to question whether or not MMY is enlightened?

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because sometimes I seriously wonder, and he has NEVER said so to my knowledge! He seems more like a bitter old man these days and sometimes the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. Also his

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 2/28/06 10:32 AM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sues unrecertified governor

2006-02-28 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi may never have proclaimed directly that he was a Guru, although that is subject to argument (I contend that he has only I cannot remember any specific instances of this), however, his actions- many many many of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Vaj
On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:33 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: And who's to say this isn't their 7th lifetime, or whatever? That's it. That was also Papaji's point

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it a sin to question whether or not MMY is enlightened?

2006-02-28 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: Because sometimes I seriously wonder, and he has NEVER said so to my knowledge! He seems more like a bitter old man these days and sometimes

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: That's it. That was also Papaji's point stating too many are hanging around already too long. Yes, many would rather wallow in the inertia of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll let you two talk. You seem convinced that you know what everyone is really saying, so it's kinda irrelevant for them to actually say anything. :-) Translation: Barry's peeved that I nailed what he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Yup. And in my book, the real test of the teacher is how gracefully or non-gracefully they deal with someone moving on when they feel it is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll let you two talk. You seem convinced that you know what everyone is really saying, so it's kinda irrelevant for them to actually say anything. :-) Thanks for making it really clear now anyway.;-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: That's it. That was also Papaji's point stating too many are hanging around

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I'll let you two talk. You seem convinced that you know what everyone is really saying, so it's kinda irrelevant for them to actually say

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness... on 2/28/06 11:40 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, many would rather wallow in the inertia of their 'seeker'  identity, proclaiming enlightenment can't be so, because of this, and  that, and the other

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I'll let you two talk. You seem convinced that you know what everyone is really saying, so it's kinda irrelevant for them to actually say anything.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:33 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: And who's to say this

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/28/06 10:32 AM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YOu would be correct if you were talking about the Gita where MMY talks about many 'births' to realize Being, that is death to materiality and Resurrection in Spirit and back being

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Vaj
On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:10 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" jflanegi@  wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And who's to say Charlie knew what he was talking about? Nice guy and all that, but anyone can regurgitate what they've read in esoteric books. Yes, many of us took Charlie

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:10 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sues unrecertified governor

2006-02-28 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi may never have proclaimed directly that he was a Guru, although that is subject to argument (I contend that he has only I cannot remember any specific instances of this), however, his actions- many many many of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Vaj
On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:08 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:33 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy books

2006-02-28 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, I actually appreciate much of what you have to say. And, *unlike you*, I *respect* your spiritual path. You do *not* respect mine. That's not true. If you go back and look at the recent threads in which we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread Vaj
On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:48 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: That's it. That was also Papaji's point

[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness...

2006-02-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:48 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In

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