[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally am suspicious of my own personal experiences in many

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
I personally am suspicious of my own personal experiences in many cases... I completely understand... Explain it to unc... Uncle, Lawson is completely suspicious about his own personal experiences in many cases. Maybe, but I'm suspicious for my own reasons, not because

[FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't talking about TM but about a similar meditation practice that goes about 5 stages beyond

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally am suspicious of my own personal experiences in many cases... I completely understand... Explain it to unc... Uncle, Lawson is completely suspicious about his own personal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Animals self-medicate...go figure

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/25/05 7:54 PM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know, it would seem logical to legalize pot. But I have heard knowledgeale people on the front lines, with no obvious agenda except to

[FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite that simple :-) In the final stages it is possible to transcend for four hours at a time, effortlessly. One sits down, decides how

[FairfieldLife] Dalai Lama, was: TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 14th Dalai Lama is a high level Bodhisattva, honestly I forget which level LOL and a highly advanced practitioner. In some of the advanced teachings he has given he has shared some of his own inner attainment just in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jacques in the Street

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Unc, what does the average, Jacques in the street think about America? Any interesting conversations with your average French dude?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jacques in the Street

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
And what about Mohammad on the street? 25% of France is now Muslim. That's probably too high: http://tinyurl.com/dwv9v Religion: Roman Catholic 83-88 percent, Protestant 2 percent, Jewish 1 percent, Muslim 5-10 percent, unaffiliated 4 percent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing to explain. You trust others, be they teachers or scriptures or science or whatever, more than you trust yourself. That's your call.

[FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread Ingegerd
Thank you for answering. Innggegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One usually receives a transmission into the practice. It usually involves coming up with a series of numbers on the mala after using a specific mantra and then interpreting that pattern.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Price of Enlightenment...'

2005-06-26 Thread Ingegerd
That is my experience too. The students who learn TM today, has mush stronger experiences than people who learned yesterday. -they also understand the principles behind TM much easier. I do not agree with the high course fee, of course, as I teach as an Independent TM- Teacher. Ingegerd ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally am suspicious of my own personal experiences in many cases... I completely understand... Explain it to unc... Uncle, Lawson is completely suspicious about his own personal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Think it's time to bail on the conversation! I'm going to go out and buy two new resonance heads for my 12 tom and my 16 tom. Think I'll get clear

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally am suspicious of my own personal experiences in many cases... I completely understand... Explain it to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not for me really. But then its hard for you to concieve of a spiritual trip with a mentor that is unlike the ones you know, where there are no clear-cut guidelines and instructions. A totally non-verbal

[FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't talking about TM but

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing to explain. You trust others, be they teachers or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [...] The mind always projects its own stuff. The mind has its own agenda which is primarily bending experience to fit a priori concepts. In short, the mind wants to be right. Sure. The nice thing about TM is that I'm always right... To

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread Ingegerd
It is a nice story, Unc. And I agree, it is teachers everywhere. One day, I was waiting for the subway, lonely on a station in Oslo, Then a drug-abuser showed up. I recognized him from the time that I was administrating a Social Service Center in Oslo. Usually he was very treathening,

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It's a different paradigm, Jim. In other traditions, there is NOT the TM idea that thoughts in meditation are valuable and an indication that something good is happening, and that stress is being released. In fact, the paradigm is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [...] The mind always projects its own stuff. The mind has its own agenda which is primarily bending experience to fit a priori concepts. In short, the mind wants to be right. Sure. The

[FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It's a different paradigm, Jim. In other traditions, there is NOT the TM idea that thoughts in meditation are valuable and an indication that something

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Not bloody likely. :-) Those who have bought into TM being the highest teaching would never lower themselves to try anything else. If they're right, they stick with the highest teach- ing forever, and avoid lesser techniques. If they're

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This is one of the fundamental issues of FFL, reduced to its bare bones. Many here are looking for a 'guru,' an expert to tell them what everything means and what to do next. Others are content with looking around and trying things on for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Dalai Lama, was: TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/25/05 9:30 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 25, 2005, at 10:19 PM, sparaig wrote: Not quite that simple :-) In the final stages it is possible

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [...] The mind always projects its own stuff. The mind has its own agenda which is primarily bending

[FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Not bloody likely. :-) Those who have bought into TM being the highest teaching would never lower themselves to try anything else. If they're right,

[FairfieldLife] Dalai Lama, was: TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread mrfishey2001
...And how would you know that it is the real story? Does the Dali Lama hook himself up to EEG machines for scientists to look at? And why do you assume an EEG machine would validate the depth of one's spirituality? A strict Freudian might find that an interesting omission Doc. Ð I would

[FairfieldLife] Fountain of Youth

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
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[FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Having practiced both styles of meditation, I can attest to the fact that using certain styles of focused or concentrative meditation,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread Jeff Fischer
I walked on to the market. I probably saw three or four scenes that taught me something while there. Spiritual teachers? Got 'em all around me, thanks. Unc Hey, I learn things from people every day. Plenty of homeless in Austin. And you often see bumper stickers Keeep Austin Weird. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a nice story, Unc. And I agree, it is teachers everywhere. Everywhere. Earlier I talked about the spiritual teachers one finds on the street here in Paris. My teachers today are not even human. They are a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jacques in the Street

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
I rewound it 3 times. He said 25% of french population is muslim. Well Tom is not God. Surprising, sort of, if no one at NBC checks facts. Wait, I don't get it. I thought the French population was French. What are all these Muslims doing in France? Why don't they go back to Mus where

Re: [FairfieldLife] Dalai Lama, was: TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- mrfishey2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...And how would you know that it is the real story? Does the Dali Lama hook himself up to EEG machines for scientists to look at? And why do you assume an EEG machine would validate the depth of one's spirituality? A strict Freudian

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. The nice thing about TM is that I'm always right... Yes, certainty and truth are dangerous bedfellows. Did you understand what

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Not bloody likely. :-) Those who have bought into TM being the highest teaching would never lower

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jacques in the Street

2005-06-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rewound it 3 times. He said 25% of french population is muslim. Well Tom is not God. Surprising, sort of, if no one at NBC checks facts. Wait, I don't get it. I thought the French population was French. What are all these Muslims

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 25, 2005, at 8:20 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 25, 2005, at 4:06 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Vaj,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I walked on to the market. I probably saw three or four scenes that taught me something while there. Spiritual teachers? Got 'em all around me, thanks. Hey, I learn things from people every day. Plenty of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. The nice thing about TM is that I'm always right...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [...] The mind always projects its own stuff. The mind has its own agenda which is

[FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 25, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I also find that some gentle attentiveness vs. allowing the mind to just mess around makes a big difference in terms of clarity and frequency of transcending. At

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread Llundrub
I was going to say, yeah, what did you learn from the homeless fixing the mutt. That they are human. That we should spend out money on stray dogs. That we sould fix them and then let them go get killed or picked up by the spca? That American women are bitches? That they don't care if they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread Llundrub
The page in front of me is as empty as Laurel's canvas is when she starts a painting, as empty as Keith Jarrett's music stand is when he sits down to play. It's a little scary, trying to create like this, with no plan and no clue as to what you will create and whether it will work or not.

[FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see MMY as promulgating the idea that TM is the highest teaching primarily to get us to be as commited as possible to a sadhana. I'm curious, do you happen to know which spiritual group promulgates the idea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was going to say, yeah, what did you learn from the homeless fixing the mutt. That they are human. That we should spend out money on stray dogs. That we sould fix them and then let them go get killed or picked up by the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
Unc: The page in front of me is as empty as Laurel's canvas is when she starts a painting, as empty as Keith Jarrett's music stand is when he sits down to play. It's a little scary, trying to create like this, with no plan and no clue as to what you will create and whether it will work

[FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see MMY as promulgating the idea that TM is the highest teaching primarily to get us to be as commited as possible to a sadhana.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And slowly the painting emerges. When it does, it often has 20 or 30 other paintings underneath it. The other paintings are not visible, except as underlying texture, but they are essential to the finished

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And slowly the painting emerges. When it does, it often has 20 or 30 other paintings underneath it. The other paintings are not

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread Llundrub
I'm curious, do you happen to know which spiritual group promulgatesthe idea that it's the second highest teaching?AlexROF -My extrapolation would be. Which of these highs is the highest? Of religions I want the heroin. The only problem is is there also a huge jones, and what does

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread Llundrub
It's true that TM has always put me to sleep. So as someone suggested, back at MIU I used to always take a nap before program, and since then I have ritually taken pseudoephedrine or drunk coffee before practice. The sleep during meditation was ok to a point, but then otherwise it was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread Llundrub
Teachers everywhere, dude. I sincerely hope you tookher advice and went to Macy's. :-)UncYep, that was why there were so many typoes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread Llundrub
Only if one believes that maya is notthe absolute.-Good one. I'm going to consider that for a long time to come. Thank you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The mind always projects its own stuff. The mind has its own agenda which is primarily bending experience to fit a priori concepts. Which for the most part is quite useful and enabling. With no a priori concepts as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The page in front of me is as empty as Laurel's canvas is when she starts a painting, as empty as Keith Jarrett's music stand is when he sits down to play. It's a little scary, trying to create like this, with no

[FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious, do you happen to know which spiritual group promulgates the idea that it's the second highest teaching? Alex Funny. But ... John the Baptist -- preparing the way. Even today, some new agey groups

[FairfieldLife] Instead of complaining use your consciousness

2005-06-26 Thread johnlasher20002000
WHY WAIT UNTIL 2008? THERE IS AN ELECTION IN 2006. I HEREWITH FIRMLY STATE THAT I WILL NOT VOTE FOR ANY POLITICIAN, REGARDLESS OF THE OTHER ISSUES, IF HE DOES NOT SPONSOR AND SUPPORT THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION. THAT INCLUDES EVERYONE STANDING FOR ELECTION IN 2006. LET US SHOW OUR LEADERS IN

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread Llundrub
I learn many things that I wasnot conscious of before. -and forget one second later. Thus perfecting the tabula rasa. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread Llundrub
Can you talk about your time with Mother Meera? I have never seen her.But when i bought one of her books, I was mesmerized by her picturefor 3 hours or more, and was spontaneously surrendering and makinggreat laudations to her, hitting deep emotional chords.-Sounds like a similar thing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Can you talk about your time with Mother Meera? I have never seen her. But when i bought one of her books, I was mesmerized by her picture for 3 hours or more, and was spontaneously surrendering and making great

[FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny. But ... John the Baptist -- preparing the way. snip Do we actually know John the Baptist's take on the whole thing? I am only

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Can you talk about your time with Mother Meera? I have never seen her. But when i bought one of her books, I was mesmerized by

[FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no authoritative knowledge of J the B. You should have asked Charlie - he, among others, proclaimed to be J the B. I believe. Or was it M being J the B, with SBS being JC. Too many stories for me. (Charlie did

[FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite that simple :-) In the final stages it is possible to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It's a little scary, trying to create like this, with no plan and no clue as to what you will create and whether it will work or not. But when it *does* work, the payoff is enormous. Unc cool. It sounds

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Communication Breakdown

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
Original Message Well, if you want to test it, their emails are [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Praise Jesus! Rick Archer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] It wasn't always so. I remember having a fairly lengthy correspondence with Bevan, some years ago, he was a good letter writer. But times

[FairfieldLife] Communication Breakdown

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
Original Message Well, if you want to test it, their emails are [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Praise Jesus! Rick Archer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] It wasn't always so. I remember having a fairly lengthy correspondence with Bevan, some years ago, he was a good letter writer. But times

[FairfieldLife] Communication Breakdown

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
Original Message Well, if you want to test it, their emails are [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Praise Jesus! Rick Archer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] It wasn't always so. I remember having a fairly lengthy correspondence with Bevan, some years ago, he was a good letter writer. But times

[FairfieldLife] Communication Breakdown

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
Original Message Well, if you want to test it, their emails are [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Praise Jesus! Rick Archer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] It wasn't always so. I remember having a fairly lengthy correspondence with Bevan, some years ago, he was a good letter writer. But times

[FairfieldLife] Communication Breakdown

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
Original Message Well, if you want to test it, their emails are [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Praise Jesus! Rick Archer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] It wasn't always so. I remember having a fairly lengthy correspondence with Bevan, some years ago, he was a good letter writer. But

[FairfieldLife] Communication Breakdown

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
Original Message Well, if you want to test it, their emails are [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Praise Jesus! Rick Archer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] It wasn't always so. I remember having a fairly lengthy correspondence with Bevan, some years ago, he was a good letter writer. But

[FairfieldLife] Think - Premanand Paul and Bob Brigante

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
The Advantage of Cowardice, Bertrand Russell. [From: Mortals and Others] "During the French Revolution, when the Reign of Terror came to an end, it was found that no one was left alive among the politicians except prudent cowards who had changed their opinions quickly enough to keep their

[FairfieldLife] Think - Premanand Paul and Bob Brigante

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
The Advantage of Cowardice, Bertrand Russell. [From: Mortals and Others] "During the French Revolution, when the Reign of Terror came to an end, it was found that no one was left alive among the politicians except prudent cowards who had changed their opinions quickly enough to keep their

[FairfieldLife] Think - Premanand Paul and Bob Brigante

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
The Advantage of Cowardice, Bertrand Russell. [From: Mortals and Others] "During the French Revolution, when the Reign of Terror came to an end, it was found that no one was left alive among the politicians except prudent cowards who had changed their opinions quickly enough to keep their

[FairfieldLife] Think - Premanand Paul and Bob Brigante

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
The Advantage of Cowardice, Bertrand Russell. [From: Mortals and Others] "During the French Revolution, when the Reign of Terror came to an end, it was found that no one was left alive among the politicians except prudent cowards who had changed their opinions quickly enough to keep

[FairfieldLife] Think - Premanand Paul and Bob Brigante

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
The Advantage of Cowardice, Bertrand Russell. [From: Mortals and Others] "During the French Revolution, when the Reign of Terror came to an end, it was found that no one was left alive among the politicians except prudent cowards who had changed their opinions quickly enough to keep

[FairfieldLife] Think - Premanand Paul and Bob Brigante

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
The Advantage of Cowardice, Bertrand Russell. [From: Mortals and Others] "During the French Revolution, when the Reign of Terror came to an end, it was found that no one was left alive among the politicians except prudent cowards who had changed their opinions quickly enough to keep

[FairfieldLife] Think - Premanand Paul and Bob Brigante

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
The Advantage of Cowardice, Bertrand Russell. [From: Mortals and Others] "During the French Revolution, when the Reign of Terror came to an end, it was found that no one was left alive among the politicians except prudent cowards who had changed their opinions quickly enough to keep

[FairfieldLife] Think - Premanand Paul and Bob Brigante

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
The Advantage of Cowardice, Bertrand Russell. [From: Mortals and Others] "During the French Revolution, when the Reign of Terror came to an end, it was found that no one was left alive among the politicians except prudent cowards who had changed their opinions quickly enough to keep

[FairfieldLife] Think - Premanand Paul and Bob Brigante

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
The Advantage of Cowardice, Bertrand Russell. [From: Mortals and Others] "During the French Revolution, when the Reign of Terror came to an end, it was found that no one was left alive among the politicians except prudent cowards who had changed their opinions quickly enough to keep

[FairfieldLife] Think - Premanand Paul and Bob Brigante

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
The Advantage of Cowardice, Bertrand Russell. [From: Mortals and Others] "During the French Revolution, when the Reign of Terror came to an end, it was found that no one was left alive among the politicians except prudent cowards who had changed their opinions quickly enough to

[FairfieldLife] Think - Premanand Paul and Bob Brigante

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
The Advantage of Cowardice, Bertrand Russell. [From: Mortals and Others] "During the French Revolution, when the Reign of Terror came to an end, it was found that no one was left alive among the politicians except prudent cowards who had changed their opinions quickly enough to

[FairfieldLife] Think - Premanand Paul and Bob Brigante

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
The Advantage of Cowardice, Bertrand Russell. [From: Mortals and Others] "During the French Revolution, when the Reign of Terror came to an end, it was found that no one was left alive among the politicians except prudent cowards who had changed their opinions quickly enough to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Communication Breakdown

2005-06-26 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari Om, It appears that one has to be carefull even with Enlightened people. People are Double-edged swords. Jason Is there an echo in here...? To

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-26 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Can you talk about your time with Mother Meera? I have never seen her. But when i bought one of her books, I was mesmerized by

[FairfieldLife] Re: Think - Premanand Paul and Bob Brigante

2005-06-26 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari Om, Would Premanand Paul and Bob Brigantte give their opinion on this please.?? Definitely picking up a very faint echo To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or

[FairfieldLife] Pardon

2005-06-26 Thread Jason Daniel
Hari Om,Connection problems. No Echo. Jason Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pardon

2005-06-26 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari Om, Connection problems. No Echo. Jason Name and form... probably better not to title the subject

[FairfieldLife] Different levels of Bodhisattvas

2005-06-26 Thread Vaj
This brief description may explain a little bit about attainment of Bodhisattvas. -Vaj When bodhicitta has been developed until it is natural and intrinsic, the bodhisattva has completely obtained the sambharamarga (which has lower levels before this point). Then many spiritual powers (rddhi)

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread Vaj
On Jun 26, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Rory Goff wrote: I tend to agree with you about TM and torpor; this is part of why I quit the practice in 1982, the larger part being there was nowhere to go anymore. This latter understanding makes me wonder a bit about your statement about transcending ...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Dalai Lama, was: TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread Vaj
On Jun 26, 2005, at 12:42 AM, sparaig wrote: And how would you know that it is the real story? Does the Dali Lama hook himself up to EEG machines for scientists to look at? Why, does Mahesh? I thought I had heard HHDL had participated in some experiments. More recently he has supplied

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread Vaj
On Jun 26, 2005, at 12:41 AM, sparaig wrote: Did you get to see the EEG of Ken Wilber I posted a while back? Yes I did. Do you want me to ask EEG experts to comment on what it shows? Already shared it with one, thanks. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-26 Thread Vaj
On Jun 26, 2005, at 9:59 AM, authfriend wrote: Wow, I never heard that the absence of thoughts in TM indicates an absence of progress. Is that something MMY says that I've somehow managed to miss? Yeah, whatever happened to the gap gets bigger and bigger? To subscribe, send a message

[FairfieldLife] Re: Different levels of Bodhisattvas

2005-06-26 Thread anonymousff
Thank you, thats a wonderful post. It rings so true, intuitively, for me, that there are states of innumerable virtues, and even these states are not yet the end of human refinement. So much less to say of attained states still exhibiting regular anger and such. For perspective, is full

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