[FairfieldLife] Re: the Kiosk and a world where everything CAN be positve

2005-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who is so brainwashed that she thinks of critics as enemies deserves only my pity. That's my version of behaving kindly.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And my impulse is to tell them what it felt like, not to make *them* feel bad, but so they understand the effect it had, assuming they will want to avoid hurting someone else in the future. This is what people have

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you don't think any of MMY's teaching about the nature of realization is accurate or useful from the vantage point of ignorance? No, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip That's not it. The thought is, That hurts. I am

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reac

2005-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All expectations are nothing more than premeditated anger. Excellent. Great line. Great insight. That's really it. One's expectations are nothing more than self setting itself up to reinforce

[FairfieldLife] Changing my behavior

2005-07-27 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy writes: Snip Not sure who we is here. And I'm not asking *you* to change, just for you to change your behavior. I can do that; is it something you've lost the ability to do? Tom T writes:

[FairfieldLife] Re: the Kiosk and a world where everything CAN be positve

2005-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who is so brainwashed that she thinks of critics

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...'

2005-07-27 Thread Patrick Gillam
Alex Stanley wrote: Has anyone actually awakened as a result of using this technology? I wonder. Alex, yours is the question I find myself asking about any new thing I hear about. The fact that people are awakening by whatever means has caused me to lose patience for life will be great at

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real magic of Harry Potter (still no spoilers)

2005-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
For those who are reading the latest Harry Potter book, or for those who intend to, I think there are a few things in it that relate very well to discussions we've had recently here on FFL. One of the parts I found coolest in the book (no spoilers here) is the description of the effects of a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 3343

2005-07-27 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning all. Early this morning Steve Shimer passed away of Hodgkin's disease. He had become an acupuncturist and had been

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread Patrick Gillam
authfriend wrote: So you don't think any of MMY's teaching about the nature of realization is accurate or useful from the vantage point of ignorance? Rory wrote: No, I don't, particularly. Rather, at a certain point it appears to allow one to more or less happily remain

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...'

2005-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Stanley wrote: Has anyone actually awakened as a result of using this technology? I wonder. Alex, yours is the question I find myself asking about any new thing I hear about. The fact that people are

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: authfriend wrote: So you don't think any of MMY's teaching about the nature of realization is accurate or useful from the vantage point of ignorance? Rory wrote: No, I don't,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you don't think any of MMY's teaching about the nature of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And my impulse is to tell them what it felt like, not to make *them* feel bad, but so they understand the effect it had, assuming they will

[FairfieldLife] Re: the Kiosk and a world where everything CAN be positve

2005-07-27 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who is so brainwashed that she thinks of critics as enemies deserves only my pity. That's my version of behaving kindly.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purport of MMY's Bhahavad Gita...

2005-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I was thinking about the type of Gnosticism that denounces the world as evil, an abortion created by a monstrously incompetent and malevolent lesser deity. The world is as you are...- That

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...'

2005-07-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Stanley wrote: Has anyone actually awakened as a result of using this technology? I wonder. Alex, yours is the question I find myself asking about any new thing I hear about. I find myself asking

[FairfieldLife] Falwell demands brainwashing regime for gay teens

2005-07-27 Thread Vaj
And you thought Islamic fundies were the problem...look in our own backyard: Speaking at a conference of Exodus International, the largest religious group promoting the idea that gays can can change their sexual orientation, Rev. Jerry Falwell endorsed forcing gay kids into counseling designed

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Rory describes the dysfunctional way I absorbed the teaching for many years, but in fairness to Maharishi, I recall many times when he talked about the pathless path, implying we're already there. Yes indeed.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip That's not it. The thought is, That hurts. I am

Re: [FairfieldLife] Falwell demands brainwashing regime for gay teens

2005-07-27 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/27/05 8:46:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And you thought Islamic fundies were the problem...look in our own backyard:"Speaking at a conference of Exodus International, the largest religiousgroup promoting the idea that gays can can

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread Llundrub
My experience--after some years of living fairlyhappily with MMY's concepts without examining themtoo closely--has been that if I take one of themright down to the nitty-gritty, I end up with aparadox or an infinite regress. At first thisbothered me, then I began to find it liberating.The

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you don't think any of MMY's teaching about the nature of

[FairfieldLife] Re: the Kiosk and a world where everything CAN be positve

2005-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...'

2005-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Stanley wrote: Has anyone actually awakened as a result of using this technology? I wonder. Alex, yours is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: authfriend wrote: So you don't think any of MMY's teaching about the nature of realization is accurate or useful from the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: the Kiosk and a world where everything CAN be positve

2005-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who is so brainwashed that she thinks of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...'

2005-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Stanley wrote: Has anyone actually awakened as a result of using this technology? I wonder. Alex, yours is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Falwell demands brainwashing regime for gay teens

2005-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you thought Islamic fundies were the problem...look in our own backyard: Speaking at a conference of Exodus International, the largest religious group promoting the idea that gays can can change their sexual

Re: [FairfieldLife] Healing Through Faith and Love

2005-07-27 Thread Peter Sutphen
Wonderfull article. Thanks for posting it.sanjulag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was put together by me. Hope it is enjoyed.===Healing Through Faith and Love - A Case Study of Sri Ramakrishna===It is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation and the Brain

2005-07-27 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2005, at 1:18 AM, sparaig wrote: To claim to be giving an unbiased report about meditation research *in general* while not mentioning the TM studies, especially the one I just described, shows either extreme ignorance or extreme bias. Hi Lawson: I think an important aspect that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation and the Brain

2005-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 27, 2005, at 1:18 AM, sparaig wrote: To claim to be giving an unbiased report about meditation research *in general* while not mentioning the TM studies, especially the one I just described, shows either

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...'

2005-07-27 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2005, at 11:17 AM, sparaig wrote: OTOH, *in private*, TM researchers have taken physiological and psychological measures of many people who report witnessing for 24/7 for years at a time. Even if true, witnessing is not enlightenment. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...'

2005-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 27, 2005, at 11:17 AM, sparaig wrote: OTOH, *in private*, TM researchers have taken physiological and psychological measures of many people who report witnessing for 24/7 for years at a time. Even if true,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reac

2005-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All expectations are nothing more than premeditated anger. Excellent. Great line. Great insight. It doesn't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...'

2005-07-27 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2005, at 12:39 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 27, 2005, at 11:17 AM, sparaig wrote: OTOH, *in private*, TM researchers have taken physiological and psychological measures of many people who report witnessing for 24/7

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...'

2005-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 27, 2005, at 12:39 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 27, 2005, at 11:17 AM, sparaig wrote: OTOH, *in private*, TM researchers have taken physiological

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reac

2005-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All expectations are nothing more

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...'

2005-07-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Stanley wrote: Has anyone actually awakened as a

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...'

2005-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reac

2005-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...'

2005-07-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reac

2005-07-27 Thread authfriend
I wanted to make a few further comments on Tom's post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy writes: Snip Not sure who we is here. And I'm not asking *you* to change, just for you to change your behavior. I can do that; is it

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reac

2005-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reac

2005-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip In the Buddhist paradigm, the only way to break the cycle is to get beyond expectation. Some have inter- preted this teaching as needing to get beyond desire, but I don't agree with that interpretation. Desire is

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reac

2005-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If you're working with the handicap of expectations, you are by definition (according to this theory) setting yourself up for a fall, locking yourself into the attraction/aversion desire cycle, the wheel of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Falwell demands brainwashing regime for gay teens

2005-07-27 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you thought Islamic fundies were the problem...look in our own backyard: Speaking at a conference of Exodus International, the largest religious group promoting the idea

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Falwell demands brainwashing regime for gay teens

2005-07-27 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: Only a faggot would say such a thing! Jesus ain't no faggot! You might want to read the secret Gospel of Mark which Morton Smith from Colombia translated. When they found an old unedited copy of Mark from before the church fathers got their

[FairfieldLife] Witnessing (was 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...')

2005-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've had witnessing 24/7 for the past several years? I think taste of witnessing implies that it was neither 27/7 nor for years. You seem

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Falwell demands brainwashing regime for gay teens

2005-07-27 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/27/05 1:07:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Jul 27, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: Only a faggot would say such a thing! Jesus ain't no faggot!You might want to read the "secret" Gospel of Mark which Morton Smith from Colombia

[FairfieldLife] Re: Falwell demands brainwashing regime for gay teens

2005-07-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you thought Islamic fundies were the problem...look in our own backyard: Speaking at a conference of Exodus International, the largest religious group promoting the idea that gays can can change their sexual

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Falwell demands brainwashing regime for gay teens

2005-07-27 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/27/05 1:35:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For me, one of the defining moments of the whole ex-gay phenomenonwas when ex-gay poster child, John Paulk, was seen in a WashingtonD.C. gay bar:http://tinyurl.com/dsnjfOh please! Who does that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...'

2005-07-27 Thread Llundrub
I think "taste of witnessing" implies that it was neither 27/7 norfor years. You seem fixated on witnessing as if it's some sort ofabsolute benchmark of awakening. However, if you listen to whatawakened people have to say, you'll find that witnessing is not atall the benchmark that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witnessing (was 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...')

2005-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 27, 2005, at 2:24 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: I'm wondering whether there might be a better model for witnessing than a simple binary ON/OFF switch. How about more of a rheostat control? You move the slider on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Falwell demands brainwashing regime for gay teens

2005-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/27/05 1:35:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For me, one of the defining moments of the whole ex-gay phenomenon was when ex-gay poster child, John Paulk, was seen in a Washington

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...'

2005-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think taste of witnessing implies that it was neither 27/7 nor for years. You seem fixated on witnessing as if it's some sort of absolute benchmark of awakening. However, if you listen to what awakened people have to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Falwell demands brainwashing regime for gay teens

2005-07-27 Thread Llundrub
I found this apt in a way: have nothing to say, and I am saying it. Reged: 10/07/02 Posts: 25072 Loc: (())(( God Bless America #4450893 -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Falwell demands brainwashing regime for gay teens

2005-07-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nature making people gay is nature's way of controlling circumstances so that progeny are not continued in a certain genetic niche. So therefore one should hate nature which decided one was not fit to continue to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witnessing (was 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...')

2005-07-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering whether there might be a better model for witnessing than a simple binary ON/OFF switch. How about more of a rheostat control? Sure, why not? But, it does seem like the witnessing state can come and go,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witnessing (was 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...')

2005-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering whether there might be a better model for witnessing than a simple binary ON/OFF switch. How about more of a rheostat

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Falwell demands brainwashing regime for gay teens

2005-07-27 Thread Llundrub
Nature making people gay is nature's way of controlling circumstances so that progeny are not continued in a certain genetic niche. So therefore one should hate nature which decided one was not fit to continue to genetically expand their frequency, instead of gays. The problem with that

[FairfieldLife] IDENTIFICATION Re: Witnessing (was 'Former Meditator Creates....)

2005-07-27 Thread anonymousff
If someone who has a copy of Maharishi's Science of Being and Art of Living handy, the original version, would kindly look for this great quote (paragraph really) on Identification and post it that would be grand, it would shed light on this discussion. It goes something like (this is a

Re: [FairfieldLife] IDENTIFICATION Re: Witnessing (was 'Former Meditator Creates....)

2005-07-27 Thread Llundrub
If no one has a SOBAOL readily available I will go digging in mygarage later on, find the section/paragraph and post it.I had a freudian read. I thought you wrote "digging in my garbage." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] IDENTIFICATION Re: Witnessing (was 'Former Meditator Creates....)

2005-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone who has a copy of Maharishi's Science of Being and Art of Living handy, the original version, would kindly look for this great quote (paragraph really) on Identification and post it that would be grand, it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Falwell demands brainwashing regime for gay teens

2005-07-27 Thread martyboi
I think Rev. Jerry Falwell would like to see gay kids playing on the freeway. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you thought Islamic fundies were the problem...look in our own

[FairfieldLife] Re: Falwell demands brainwashing regime for gay teens

2005-07-27 Thread martyboi
Another problem with the theory is that it creates a binary gay/straight male/female view of human sexuality when it is probably more of a contiuum. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real magic of Harry Potter (still no spoilers)

2005-07-27 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those who are reading the latest Harry Potter book, or for those who intend to, I think there are a few things in it that relate very well to discussions we've had recently here on FFL. One of the parts I found

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Falwell demands brainwashing regime for gay teens

2005-07-27 Thread Llundrub
Not sure I understand that. - Original Message - From: martyboi To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Falwell demands brainwashing regime for gay teens Another problem with the theory is that it creates a

[FairfieldLife] Aut horative Words on Enlightenment

2005-07-27 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Stanley wrote: Has anyone actually awakened as a result of using this technology? I wonder. Alex, yours is the question

[FairfieldLife] IDENTIFICATION Re: Witnessing (was 'Former Meditator Creates....)

2005-07-27 Thread anonymousff
Judy Yes that is it. The wording sounds just a slight bit difference and maybe it was edited very slightly from the original, but, yes, that is the section I had underlined and have remembered lo these many years. It fit nicely with the admonition Maharishi gave to a small room of people way

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real magic of Harry Potter (still no spoilers)

2005-07-27 Thread Llundrub
I think that the author captured those magical days when one is in tune with the dharma *perfectly*. I've had days like this. Yeah, like when I was chef and my cooks brought me weed which I would smoke under the hood. Then have a few beers while I prepared my new menu, cooking

[FairfieldLife] Oil Depletion and the Collapse of the American Dream

2005-07-27 Thread anonymousff
http://www.endofsuburbia.com/ End of Suburbia - Oil depletion and the Collapse of the American Dream. Just saw this documentary and it's a real eye opener! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aut horative Words on Enlightenment

2005-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You indicate that you are not enlightened, yet talk in great detail and apparent authority as to what it enlightenment is and what the path is and what the path is not. However, if enlightenment has not happened,

[FairfieldLife] Expectations

2005-07-27 Thread akasha_108
There are expectations that invoke anger and there are expectations that invoke temporary satisfaction. From the point of view of Buddhist thought, both are equally binding, and both are equally premeditated. Just to clarify, even the expectations that work out and bring about a

[FairfieldLife] IDENTIFICATION Re: Witnessing (was 'Former Meditator Creates....)

2005-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy Yes that is it. The wording sounds just a slight bit difference and maybe it was edited very slightly from the original, but, yes, that is the section I had underlined and have remembered lo these many years.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Aut horative Words on Enlightenment

2005-07-27 Thread Peter
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You indicate that you are not enlightened, yet talk in great detail and apparent authority as to what it enlightenment is and what the path is and what the path

Re: [FairfieldLife] IDENTIFICATION Re: Witnessing (was 'Former Meditator Creates....)

2005-07-27 Thread Peter
--- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy Yes that is it. The wording sounds just a slight bit difference and maybe it was edited very slightly from the original, but, yes, that is the section I had underlined and have remembered lo these many years. It fit nicely with the

[FairfieldLife] IDENTIFICATION Re: Witnessing (was 'Former Meditator Creates....)

2005-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It fit nicely with the admonition Maharishi gave to a small room of people way back in the mid 70s in Livingston Manor when he made a surprise visit. In response to a question (Rick Archer says it was a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aut horative Words on Enlightenment

2005-07-27 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You indicate that you are not enlightened, yet talk in great detail and apparent authority as to what it enlightenment is and what the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Oil Depletion and the Collapse of the American Dream

2005-07-27 Thread Llundrub
Fuck suburbia. I thought it was ending as soon as it began, with the close minded bourgeois WASP 50's Frank Sinatrablack-hating mentality. It was doomed for destruction as soon as it became something. Has nothing to do with oil, merely close mindedness. - Original Message -

[FairfieldLife] UnFair to George Harrison

2005-07-27 Thread Jason Spock
Hari Om, George Harrison's number "My sweet Lord" was slapped by plagarism suit. http://www.songfacts.com/detail.lasso?id=1215 Jason __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oil Depletion and the Collapse of the American Dream

2005-07-27 Thread anonymousff
more: Ours is a gluttonous society predicated on cheap, plentiful and dependable fossil fuels. But analysis of world oil reserves (particularly those in the Middle East) raises the specter that production has peaked and, in the years ahead, supply will decline. Some predict the drop will be

[FairfieldLife] Re: UnFair to George Harrison

2005-07-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oil Depletion and the Collapse of the American Dream

2005-07-27 Thread anonymousff
Simple answers do exist. (Didn't say easy, though). Counties can start planning right now to plant copious amounts of fruit and nut trees, rather than decorative specimens, in local suburbs. Just one small beginning, to what is going to become a massive problem, as we make the transition from a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oil Depletion and the Collapse of the American Dream

2005-07-27 Thread shempmcgurk
It's ironic that it was a Canadian Film crew that made the documentary as all Canadians are well aware of the Alberta Tar Sands. The Tar Sands have two types of oil: 1) Oil recoverable under current technologies. This type of oil costs about $10.00 a barrel more than the typical Saudi Sweet

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aut horative Words on Enlightenment

2005-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You indicate that you are not enlightened, yet talk in

Re: [FairfieldLife] IDENTIFICATION Re: Witnessing (was 'Former Meditator Creates....)

2005-07-27 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2005, at 6:48 PM, authfriend wrote: And then there's the ever-popular 200 percent of life, 100/100 Absolute/relative. That's now been replaced by 300 percent of life: 100% absolute 100% relative and maxing out the followers credits cards 100%. To subscribe, send a message

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 3343

2005-07-27 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning all. Early this morning Steve Shimer passed away of Hodgkin's disease. He had become an acupuncturist and had been

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you don't think any of MMY's teaching about the nature of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aut horative Words on Enlightenment

2005-07-27 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Â…because language itself exists only in the context of the mistake of the intellect. Huh? L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Real Estate in FF Poll

2005-07-27 Thread pibssmith
What does anyone out there think about real estate prices in FF and what will happen to them? It seems that not much land is being sold right now maybe the contractors online can address this so that means only those with land already bought and planning to build this year will give any work

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aut horative Words on Enlightenment

2005-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Â…because language itself exists only in the context of the mistake of the intellect. Which words do you not

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...'

2005-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] You've had witnessing 24/7 for the past several years? I think taste of witnessing implies that it was neither 27/7 nor for years. You seem

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-27 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Rory describes the dysfunctional way I absorbed the teaching for many years, but in fairness to Maharishi, I recall many times when

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witnessing (was 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...')

2005-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've had witnessing 24/7 for the past several years? I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Witnessing (was 'Former Meditator Creates High-Tech Enlightenment...')

2005-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 27, 2005, at 2:24 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: I'm wondering whether there might be a better model for witnessing than a simple binary ON/OFF switch. How about more of a rheostat control? You move the slider on the

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