[FairfieldLife] Re: The FEAR Factor

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
A particularly phenomenal aspect of this post is that its abut the 100 time the poster has posted the same point. Is he just angry that no one buys his fast-shuffle boogy-woogy? So he keeps trying over and over again. Its kind of like a guy watching the same movie over and over, hopping THIS tim

[FairfieldLife] Re: The FEAR Factor and Other Lame Stories

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here's a Monday morning topic for you: what is the > relationship of FEAR to lack of personal spiritual > experience? So are you saying you are extremely fearful? Because the only experience I can remember you refe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discussing Experiences

2006-04-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Real Democracy

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Those two, together with anon_couscous and a > few others who don't even have the balls ... One less thing to be attached to I suppose. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http:/

[FairfieldLife] Discussing Experiences

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > > > > Ok here's one. Around 1983 or so I had an experience that may have >

[FairfieldLife] The FEAR Factor

2006-04-23 Thread TurquoiseB
Here's a Monday morning topic for you: what is the relationship of FEAR to lack of personal spiritual experience? What I've noticed, on this forum and many others, is that the people who seem most emotionally involved in putting down reports of other people's supposed spiritual experiences DON

[FairfieldLife] Gas map of the USA: who's paying what for a gallon...

2006-04-23 Thread shempmcgurk
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > > > I was also wondering what exactly was so spiritually > > > transformative about obs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > I was also wondering what exactly was so spiritually > > transformative about observing levitation- I mean if > > it really happened. > > Finally, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff > > wrote: > >   The chances of getting an intelligent incentives policy for ener

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ram Das performance in FF

2006-04-23 Thread shempmcgurk
I think you meant "Krishna Das"...Ram Das has the same guru as Krishna Das and they are good friends...Ram Das wouldn't be giving a concert because he is confined to a nursing home by a debilitating stroke. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > >  > > In a message dated 4/23/06 10:39:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  > > jflanegi@ writes: > > > > >  JohnY > > > ps. pundits won't do it either...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >  > In a message dated 4/23/06 10:39:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >  JohnY > > ps. pundits won't do it either... > > > Speaking of record  profits by the oil companies, I researched this > r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > Ok here's one. Around 1983 or so I had an experience that may have > > been hovering. I can't be absolutely certain, but it met my own > self >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok here's one. Around 1983 or so I had an experience that may have > been hovering. I can't be absolutely certain, but it met my own self > tests at the time. Practicing the flying sutra, during a period of > l

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > I was also wondering what exactly was so spiritually > > transformative about observing levitation- I mean if > > it really happened. > > Finally, a p

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was also wondering what exactly was so spiritually > transformative about observing levitation- I mean if > it really happened. Finally, a point worth dealing with. It's because it makes you deal with your own

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff > > wrote: > >   The chances of getting an intelligent incentives policy for energy >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff > > > w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff > wrote: >   The chances of getting an intelligent incentives policy for energy > from the gov't is only slightly better than the chances of getting a > gro

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > >  > > In a message dated 4/23/06 8:11:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  > > jyouells@ writes: > > > > About a  month ago I heard that total tax on a gal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrot

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff > > wrote: > > > > > > > > About a month ago I heard that total tax on a gallon was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff > wrote: > > > > > > About a month ago I heard that total tax on a gallon was $0.67. Ouch > > > Lots of money > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >  > In a message dated 4/23/06 10:39:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >  JohnY > > ps. pundits won't do it either... > > > Speaking of record  profits by the oil companies, I researched this > re

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >  > In a message dated 4/23/06 8:11:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > About a  month ago I heard that total tax on a gallon was $0.67. Ouch > Lots of  money > > > JohnY > > > > > I thi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >  > In a message dated 4/23/06 8:11:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > About a  month ago I heard that total tax on a gallon was $0.67. Ouch > Lots of  money > > > JohnY > > > > > I thin

[FairfieldLife] Ram Das performance in FF

2006-04-23 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Spiritual Practice. Life in Fairfield.  Get to the Ram Das concert?  There were about 500 of us people there on a weekday night this week.   It was real special given our FF crowd.  He was very appreciative and told some great stories that were very relavant.  A very powerful meeting. Not o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/23/06 10:39:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > JohnY> ps. pundits won't do it either...>Speaking of record profits by the oil companies, I researched this recently and found out that it now costs the oil companies about $1.50 to make, mar

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/23/06 8:11:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: About a month ago I heard that total tax on a gallon was $0.67. Ouch Lots of money JohnY I think that depends on the state and also the higher the retail price, the higher the tax. So where i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > >  > > > In a message dated 4/23/06 5:07:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > >  > > In a message dated 4/23/06 5:07:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  > > noozguru@ writes: > > > > I would  like to see a windfall profits tax o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why scorpion leader is worse than Bush

2006-04-23 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante > > > wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >  > In a message dated 4/23/06 5:07:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I would  like to see a windfall profits tax on the oil companies.  I > don't  mind the price of gas going up if it is from tax

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tesla

2006-04-23 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Any comment from MMY on this man..? > > "In 1930, Nikola Tesla asked his nephew, Petar Savo, who was born in > Yugoslavia in 1899, to come to New York. Petar was 43 years younger > than his uncle. Up to that da

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Apparently it took place in '74, so it might > > well have become something not spoken about by > > the time I learned TM. > > I went to my first intro lecture in May 74 and got > initiated in July 74 and I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/23/06 5:07:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to see a windfall profits tax on the oil companies.  I don't mind the price of gas going up if it is from taxes to improve roadways, bridges and make mass transit more ubiquitous. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 9:04 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: > > > I enjoyed getting turned on to his "thing".  I found it > >  quite refreshing and genuine.  Then again, thanks for turning me on to > >  Mother Meer

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread gullible fool
> Apparently it took place in '74, so it might > well have become something not spoken about by > the time I learned TM. I went to my first intro lecture in May 74 and got initiated in July 74 and I never heard of it. --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogrou

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I can't remember exactly when the Nepal campaign was but I  want to say it > would have around 72 or 73. M went to Nepal and  initiated tens of thousands, > maybe thirty five thousand, in a football  stadium using earphones whic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > \...] > > Another, related question is, how would witnessing such a levitation > > just as an onlooker change yourself? That for me would be more valid > > in m

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/23/06 11:39:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Supposedly, many years ago, actually only a few  years after  the > > campaign in Nepal, M had told Satyanand that  the campaign was a > > lesson on  how not to do such things because  t

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >+++ Has it been determined that creation isn't a function of evolution?   In a recent post didn't it point out everything has the common denominator of illusion and, here we argue about opposite ends of the eleph

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: In others words TM helped dismantle their own innate depth > > and breadth by replacing it with shallow palliatives. > > Wow, that's some powerful technique to b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As was shared on here a while back, even in recent times when masters  > have claimed enlightenment, the test almost always involved some  > performance of siddhi. Ah, ja, where, when, examples please? > > Since yogic fl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" wrote: > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:40 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote: > > > > > > > Because

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > > > > > The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:40 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote: > > > > > Because its inconvenient? To have some non-subjective > > > non-self-interpreative means t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > shempmcgurk wrote: > > > > >I love the way people are so angy with the oil companies. > > > > > >I myself think that the oil companies should embark

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The hidden message here TM zealots are trying to insinuate Still interested to know which TM zealots here are trying to insinuate this... > is that when Nepal stopped TM they created a pathway for it's own  > destruction

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 6:49 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > As far as I know only Maharishi has ever asserted that levitation is > > > an objective manifestation of unity. I've never heard him say it, > > > either live or on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 6:49 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > As far as I know only Maharishi has ever asserted that levitation is > > > an objective manifestation of unity. I've never heard him say it, > > > either live or on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > > > > > The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 5:45 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote: > > > > As was shared on here a while back, even in recent times when  > > masters > > > have claimed enlightenment, the test almost always involved some > > > perfo

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/23/06 2:18 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > >> > >> The hidden message here TM zealots are trying to insinuate is that > >> when Nepal stoppe

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > [...] > > > Mid-70's IIRC. MMY initiated the king and the king had MMY initiate > > > a who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > The point I was making, though, that he has a need to > > > believe he's being

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:40 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote: > > > Because its inconvenient? To have some non-subjective > > non-self-interpreative means to point to higher states? > > > > Objective reality gets in the way of s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > shempmcgurk wrote: > > >I love the way people are so angy with the oil companies. > > > >I myself think that the oil companies should embark on a campaign of > >purposely gouging consumers. > > > >Let the price go u

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: \...] > Another, related question is, how would witnessing such a levitation > just as an onlooker change yourself? That for me would be more valid > in my eyes. Lets say some tribal people in Africa see a plane first > ti

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > > As far as I know only Maharishi has ever asserted that levitation i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread Vaj
On Apr 23, 2006, at 6:49 PM, sparaig wrote: > > As far as I know only Maharishi has ever asserted that levitation is > > an objective manifestation of unity. I've never heard him say it, > > either live or on tape. I've only heard others report that he has. I > > certainly don't know if that a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Apr 23, 2006, at 9:04 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: > I enjoyed getting turned on to his "thing".  I found it >  quite refreshing and genuine.  Then again, thanks for turning me on to >  Mother Meera.  I have enjoyed getting acquanited with her "thing". > Careful, Lurk, or you'll get us pu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > As far as I know only Maharishi has ever asserted that levitation is > > an objective manifestation of unity. ... I certainly don't know if

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread Vaj
On Apr 23, 2006, at 5:45 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote: > > As was shared on here a while back, even in recent times when  > masters > > have claimed enlightenment, the test almost always involved some > > performance of siddhi. > > > > Since yogic flying belongs to yoga-darshana, it's only sens

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > wr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread Sal Sunshine
But if they didn't run into a phone booth beforehand to change their clothes, it doesn't count. On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:08 PM, Vaj wrote: >  As was shared on here a while back, even in recent times when masters  >  have claimed enlightenment, the test almost always involved some  >  performanc

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: [...] > > Mid-70's IIRC. MMY initiated the king and the king had MMY initiate > > a whole mess of people after that. > > I was just wondering if it had gone

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > As far as I know only Maharishi has ever asserted that levitation is > > an objective manifestation of unity. ... I certainly don't know if >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/23/06 2:18 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> The hidden message here TM zealots are trying to insinuate is that >> when Nepal stopped TM they created a pathway for it's own >> destruction. Of course TM coul

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why scorpion leader is worse than Bush

2006-04-23 Thread anonyff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > > > > wro

Re: [FairfieldLife] Angry with the oil companies?

2006-04-23 Thread Bhairitu
shempmcgurk wrote: >I love the way people are so angy with the oil companies. > >I myself think that the oil companies should embark on a campaign of >purposely gouging consumers. > >Let the price go up to $7.00 a gallon!  Ha-ha! > >It will only be then that people will start to use less and d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > The point I was making, though, that he has a need to > > believe he's being criticized because his critics are > > jealous of his experiences, which

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mid-70's IIRC. MMY initiated the king and the king had MMY initiate a > whole mess of people after that. > This was the brother of the current king: http://www.bouldernews.com/news/worldnation/02an

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > >  >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:40 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote: > > > Because its inconvenient? To have some non-subjective > > non-self-interpreative means to point to higher states? > > > > Objective reality gets in the way of s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread Vaj
On Apr 23, 2006, at 1:08 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > on 4/23/06 11:38 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Okey-doke.  Who was responsible for not seeing that > > folks stayed behind for follow-up, do you know? > > I don't think there was much follow-up. Maharishi initiated  > th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread Vaj
On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:40 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote: > Because its inconvenient? To have some non-subjective > non-self-interpreative means to point to higher states? > > Objective reality gets in the way of some story-tellers -- which to > them [the stories] form a higher truth than measureme

[FairfieldLife] Objective Validation and Hallucinations

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > > > wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread anonyff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The point I was making, though, that he has a need to > believe he's being criticized because his critics are > jealous of his experiences, which is just wildly > delusionary, not to mention self-serving. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > As far as I know only Maharishi has ever asserted that levitation is > > an objective manifestation of unity. ... I certainly don't know if >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread Sal Sunshine
Multi-party verification or repeatability is what brought the world out of the Dark Ages? Funny, all this time I was sure it was Fred and his gear. Sal On Apr 23, 2006, at 3:40 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote: Its not clear why Fred and his gear are not invited to Satsangs. Maybe he has been. Or may

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > wr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as I know only Maharishi has ever asserted that levitation is > an objective manifestation of unity. ... I certainly don't know if that assertion is true, and tend to doubt it. > > JohnY Because its inc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > It's not Barry's purported experience with levita

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > >  > > > In a message dated 4/23/06 10:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  > > > j

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 11:03 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > Not as Barry told

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was just wondering if it had gone bad before or after > I learned TM in '76.  If before, maybe that's why I > don't recall hearing anything about it. That would be '75, actually... To subscribe, send a

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > >  > > > In a message dated 4/23/06 10:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 11:03 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > Not as Barry told

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why scorpion leader is worse than Bush

2006-04-23 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > > wrote: > >  > > > > > Really, you have taken stupidity to a new plateau. > > > ".

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > That's the point with Barry's observation of levitation by Lentz. He > doesn't know or care if it could be verified or not. That's his > business, but as I said, that isn't how the term is normally used in > th

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > >  > > In a message dated 4/23/06 10:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  > > jstein@ writes: > > > > The  hidden  message *where*?  Which TM zealots?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ancient Flying Machines - Vimanas

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 11:03 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > Not as Barry told it, at least initially.  He admitted > > > some who were watching did not

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM once big in Nepal, what happened?

2006-04-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 11:13 AM, Jason Spock wrote: > > > What do you mean, "Nepal stopped TM.?" > > > Massive TM initiations. > > At a certain point you realize that scientific proselytizing is as  > palatable as the

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