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2014-11-20 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
you want it to mean so they can claim the crown and get followers. From: "Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor I

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2014-11-20 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
t;/ - Patanjali, Yoga Sutras 3.17 > *From:* "Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 11:20 AM *Subject:* Re: [Fa

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2014-11-20 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
like From: "'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor  On 11/19/2014 7:39 AM, steve.sundur wrote: >   ye

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2014-11-20 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
like From: "'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor  On 11/19/2014 10:45 AM, Share Long wrote: >   The

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2014-11-20 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
dLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   I think this brings up an interesting point. How does one define 'enlightenment'. The most overreaching attempts include the e

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2014-11-20 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What were you expecting? From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   Funny about Adya, I love his writing. But wh

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2014-11-20 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , steve.sundur wrote : > I guess your TM obsession began the day Fred died? That would make sense. I think Edg called that one. Two teachers who

Re: Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-20 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, just like that. Good example is Barry's naked and raw envy of my enlightened state. He is at no loss for insults and even screaming in print, about it. He doesn't realize the insights that enlightenment brings to oneself, and would never be able to continue his isolated and nasty existence,

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2014-11-20 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
fieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" The Zen trained Adyashanti had this to say about 'enlightenment succ

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2014-11-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
n FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : MJ, speak for yourself! I was never chasing enlightenment. I simply wanted to fulfill my desires. From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoog

Re: Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-19 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re ENVY: Yes, I've always regarded it as an odd vice! It's really wishing that you weren't who in fact you are. I mean, I can idly fantasize about being a Wimbledon champion but as I'm not fit, I have minimal will power and couldn't be arsed to train every day, I've clearly never been Wimbled

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur wrote : > I guess your TM obsession began the day Fred died? That would make sense. I think Edg called that one. Two teachers whose philosoph

Re: Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I never understood envy - what a useless emotion. Envy must be nature's way of saying, "Get off your butt, and Do Something". I think you are absolutely right. Envy could lead to positive action. On the other hand, envy seems to stem from a

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2014-11-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
omething so familiar that you discount it entirely. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : MJ, speak for yourself! I was never chasing enlightenment. I simply wanted to fulfill my desires. -------- *From:* "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [Fairf

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur wrote : > I guess your TM obsession began the day Fred died? That would make sense. I think Edg called that one. Two teachers whose philosophy you bought into. The second one dies, and then you return to the first. Okay, makes a little more s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
which is morality unlimited by traditional religious rules. *From:* "Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:20 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLif

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
-- *From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:13 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor I've always said the "experiencing enlightenment" is

Re: Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I never understood envy - what a useless emotion. Envy must be nature's way of saying, "Get off your butt, and Do Something". ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yep. Seems like the idea of average people like me walking around enl

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2014-11-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
TMers scored in the more developed category, which is morality unlimited by traditional religious rules. From: "Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:20 AM Subjec

Re: Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yep. Seems like the idea of average people like me walking around enlightened, with the ability to act in a spontaneous way, is frightening to some. Must be an ego thing. I think it's lack of vision and, yes, envy. ---In FairfieldLife@y

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2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
tiers and tiers of seats. And it was packed for his event. From: "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor I was just curious - maybe he is n

Re: Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep. Seems like the idea of average people like me walking around enlightened, with the ability to act in a spontaneous way, is frightening to some. Must be an ego thing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : So, there has never bee

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   I was just curious - maybe he is not a very flamboyant speaker, or doesn't make an effort to connect with people in his audience?  

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2014-11-19 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
kemmer,like hands joined together,like the end and the way.                   —Ursula K. Le Guin From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [Fai

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2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
s on paper? Doesn't matter. I still love his writing. From: "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor What were you expecting? He's

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2014-11-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
November 19, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   What were you expecting? He's pretty normal, from what I can tell... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Funny about Adya, I love his writing. But when he came to FF and spoke in person, I was somewhat

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
quot;anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor The Zen trained Adyashanti had this to say about 'enlightenment success': 'When I looked around at the Budd

Re: Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : So, there has never been a model, of how an enlightened person acts, as a householder. Maharishi brought out a lot of elements regarding diet, architecture, health, and even fashion (saris and

Re: Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : So, there has never been a model, of how an enlightened person acts, as a householder. Maharishi brought out a lot of elements regarding diet, architecture, health, and even fashion (saris and crowns, robes and cream colored suits) that althoug

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   The Zen trained Adyashanti had this to say about 'enlightenment success': 'When I looked around at the Buddhist tradition, I realized that the success rate was terrible. People were in it for enlightenment, but very few were ac

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2014-11-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
ember 18, 2014 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor  I've always said the "experiencing enlightenment" is the thing to say even if it is for a few minutes a day.  Honestly, I think some folks believe that enlightenment will put them in a perpetual state of cel

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2014-11-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
LIKE (-: From: "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   Yes, the thing goes full circle, from chasing the dream of enlightenment, to g

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2014-11-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I guess your TM obsession began the day Fred died? That would make sense. I think Edg called that one. Two teachers whose philosophy you bought into. The second one dies, and then you return to the first. Okay, makes a little mo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread nablusoss1008
Life@yahoogroups.com, wrote : MJ, speak for yourself! I was never chasing enlightenment. I simply wanted to fulfill my desires. From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM S

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
MJ, speak for yourself! I was never chasing enlightenment. I simply wanted to fulfill my desires. From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
.com, wrote : MJ, speak for yourself! I was never chasing enlightenment. I simply wanted to fulfill my desires. From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Fairfi

Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
enlightenment. I simply wanted to fulfill my desires. From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor And yet from the very beg

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2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
oogroups.com, wrote : MJ, speak for yourself! I was never chasing enlightenment. I simply wanted to fulfill my desires. From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most

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2014-11-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
g not quite so interesting to talk about, something so familiar that you discount it entirely. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : MJ, speak for yourself! I was never chasing enlightenment. I simply wanted to fulfill my desires. From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [Fairfie

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
J, speak for yourself! I was never chasing enlightenment. I simply wanted to fulfill my desires. From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] M

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2014-11-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
ered into it. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" On 11/18/2014 04:

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2014-11-19 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"   The Zen trained Adyashanti had this to say about 'enlightenment success': 'When I looked around at the Buddhist tradition, I realized that the success rate was terrible. People were in it for enlightenment, but very few were actually getting enli

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
into it. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBe

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2014-11-18 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Someone must have said the TM was the fastest way to enlightenment. I seem to recall hear that phrase, or something similar to it. On a quick search I found a website page that mentioned it: http://shell.forethought.net/~risaacs/l_mahari.htm http://shell.forethought.net/~risaacs/l_mahari.htm

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
didn't work out that way for me, either. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "You won't desire money or sex because your desires are already fulfilled" Shame it didn't work out that way for MMY

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2014-11-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Same conclusion as everyone else's - Edg nailed it to the wall. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That is my recollection as well, as one who did give many lectures and teach courses. It just wasn't a talking point. Of course was going to produce dozens of teachers who clai

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2014-11-18 Thread Duveyoung
Somebody's gotta be the drummer on this ship of 'oars.

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2014-11-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
ps.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group headed by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them certificates. This is the age i

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2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/18/2014 5:59 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: "You won't desire money or sex because your desires are already fulfilled" Shame it didn't work out that way for MMY > /Apparently MMY got everything he wanted or needed./

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2014-11-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That is my recollection as well, as one who did give many lectures and teach courses. It just wasn't a talking point. Of course was going to produce dozens of teachers who claimed something, I forget what, a few days ago. I requested he produce one, which of course he couldn't. Wha

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2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
*/ /* */-- "So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us your $75, and we promise you that you will be fully enlightened in five years." /* But now I have to ask: did you claim this in *your* intro lectures? Are you guilty as charged? I don't recall claiming this in mine

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2014-11-18 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"You won't desire money or sex because your desires are already fulfilled" Shame it didn't work out that way for MMY

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2014-11-18 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"You won't desire money or sex because your desires are already fulfilled" Shame it didn't work out that way for MMY ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : -- "You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this exact sales pitch hook, line, and s

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2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
*/-- "You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this exact sales pitch hook, line, and sinker." /* /* */ On 11/18/2014 11:54 AM, salyavin808 wrote: > Inspired. Here's a genuine conversation I had with a TM teacher at the academy: "When you are enlightened

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2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
What organization does? */Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to accept, think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost anything else being sold on this planet:/* */ /* */-- "So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us

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2014-11-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't know - When I was around the teachers, it was for a specific purpose - I was focused on the course, or the TMSP, or whatever it was. My path started to diverge from the orthodoxy of the seven states, a year or so after learning the TMSP, (1981-ish), being plunged into so many experiences

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2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from "TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet," coming from an organization that in over 50 years has bee

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2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/18/2014 10:47 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: > Barry is trolling. I have never heard anyone in the TM Org, including my teacher, say that TM was the fastest way to enlightenment. It is not on any tapes, or in any lectures, or books. I challenge Barry to find even one recorded instance

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2014-11-18 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
[FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor And yet from the very beginning of the Movement till about the 1980's enlightenment was what we were all chasing and what M

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2014-11-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
ue more. *From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:06 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Most A

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2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
e I haven't heard before - certificates of enlightenment??? What bs. *From:* "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM

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2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/18/2014 7:12 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Actually, Barry, you've discounted Maharishi's progress on the spiritual path as someone who had achieved nothing. At the same time you've discussed your experiences practicing his technique, which happen to coincide with t

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2014-11-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
MJ, speak for yourself! I was never chasing enlightenment. I simply wanted to fulfill my desires. From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLif

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2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
ed to world peace. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   First of all, I'm familiar with spiritual groups who p

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2014-11-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
ed." There are other qualities that I value more. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   From: "Bhai

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2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
I'd forgotten all that, the plot thickens! Is the spiritual world this crazy for people in other groups? > On 11/18/2014 7:09 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: > */It can get much worse. Any time you have a group of people so lacking in real self-esteem that they gain pretty much ALL of their sense of

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2014-11-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
salyavin, I think few folks could match you for sense of humor. Yours is pretty darn developed. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

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2014-11-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
o.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   Share claims some orgs are giving out certificates in enlightenment so they must guarantee it somehow or other. F

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2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
ol. Go figure./ > *From:* "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:00 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor Well this is one I haven't heard before -

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2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/18/2014 3:59 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: > Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here, Vaj. > And, don't forget the "ColdBluIce", the discredited bhakti yoga impostor. According to these two rumor-mongers, SBS died because the Jyotirmath Ashram cook, in a

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2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Even after all I have seen and heard some of the TM junkie mentality is still hard to believe. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Share claims some orgs are giving out certificates in enlightenment so they must guarantee it somehow or other. From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Fairfield

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That's excellent - a great summation of the TMO's sales pitches! From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:   From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"   On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:   From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle f

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread salyavin808
18, 2014 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Great, Salyavin! But did you ENJOY? At first I liked the TMSP but after a while it was more of a drag than a pleasure. Like TM I think most of the pleasure derived are from the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Do your still TMSP practicing friends have tea with you, or do they avoid you so as to not catch the OTP disease? From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   ---In FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:   It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from "TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the plane

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Barry is trolling. I have never heard anyone in the TM Org, including my teacher, say that TM was the fastest way to enlightenment. It is not on any tapes, or in any lectures, or books. I challenge Barry to find even one recorded instance of th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread salyavin808
have been much happier ever since. Others I know still like it, go figure. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : MJ, surely some

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from "TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet," coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry is trolling. I have never heard anyone in the TM Org, including my teacher, say that TM was the fastest way to enlightenment. It is not on any tapes, or in any lectures, or books. I challenge Barry to find even one recorded instance of this phrase, used by anyone in the TMO. He is more in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Great, salyavin! But did you ENJOY? From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : MJ, surely some qigong and kung fu programs offer

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread salyavin808
the unified field 3rd Dan, that was me. Sigh. From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor Well this is one I haven't he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good God woman, if you can seriously ask that question you need serious intervention. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Abs

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
quot; Too bad it doesn't work that way. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
ot;Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group headed by Bhagavan and Amma c

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
tantly put down other groups, because they believe that if they can make these other groups appear "shorter," they'll appear "taller." Too bad it doesn't work that way. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:39

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
[FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here, Vaj. Of course it was rubbish but it comes from the same sort of place that the other rumours have, the place where Mar

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Actually, Barry, you've discounted Maharishi's progress on the spiritual path as someone who had achieved nothing. At the same time you've discussed your experiences practicing his technique, which happen to coincide with the signposts of higher consciousness outlined by M. I always had a fe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
the part of the gurus to maintain the gravy train. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   It's not so much a ru

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
7:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   Well this is one I haven't heard before - certificates of enlightenment??? What bs. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 20

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well this is one I haven't heard before - certificates of enlightenment??? What bs. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread salyavin808
s! Is the spiritual world this crazy for people in other groups? From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Indeed. And it wa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
o.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from "TM is the fastest

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from "TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet," coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, "This person is en

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