Re: [FairfieldLife] Painful internal dynamics (was Re: CC is Baby Awakening)

2005-06-17 Thread Robert Gimbel
Also, this "internal crap, can be there as you say, and still hold the awareness part of you, the part that witnesses. In reality, that part that witnesses is the experience of "soul energy" and that soul energy, when maintained along with the "crap" will heal the "crap", or dissolve it. It's

[FairfieldLife] A Very Compelling Broadcast Tonight (also repeats immediately afterwards)

2005-06-17 Thread Dharma Mitra
Really great show on Coast to Coast tonight, they're having a roundtable about evidence in the 9/11 matter, how we've been lied to about the incident and such http://38.116.132.19:80/kfi This will be one of the most compelling shows they've done. I would have mentioned this sooner though didn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: No more I Discussions

2005-06-17 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (.) That's pity. I really expected some sincere discussion on the questions I made to you. Irmeli To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (re: these petty disputes where everyone has to have the last word.) I don't tend to get involved in them any more. Any ideas I have about enlightenment are just that. And personally, I'm working on my last

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Santa Cruz TM forest retreat

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip John Konhaus likes to sail. Is John Konhaus the mysterious Guy Banner? humm. If so, I submit his use of language as an

[FairfieldLife] Re: No more I Discussions-AMEN

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (.) I say amen to that brother. I would've used seven dots. :-) Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [FairfieldLife] A Very Compelling Broadcast Tonight (also repeats immediately afterwards)

2005-06-17 Thread Llundrub
So then knowing what you have learned what will you do with it? - Original Message - From: Dharma Mitra To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Shriidhara ; Shriidhara ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

[FairfieldLife] Painful internal dynamics (was Re: CC is Baby Awakening)

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if there is supposed to be any intention with respect to internal crap. It's been my experience that with this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Jeff

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard today on Howard Stern that Katie Holmes had achieved a level four operating theton. The attributes associated with that accomplishment seemed to be near onmiscience. What is a level 4 operating

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Jeff

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It wasn't that Katie had achieved a level four operating theton...they were discussing that Tom Cruise had hired a MINDER to accompany Katie everywhere and that the minder was a level four...Katie is a newbie and,

[FairfieldLife] Re: African Children 'Sacrificed' In UK

2005-06-17 Thread claudiouk
What I think is that MMY's interpretations concerning the UK have been off beam for some time. The scandal of sacrificed children uncovered in Britain concerns black magic cults from another continent - nothing to do with Britain as such. Of Blair's electoral victory I've made my position

[FairfieldLife] Painful internal dynamics (was Re: CC is Baby Awakening)

2005-06-17 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As hopefully a rare intellectualism from me, and not to argue but to present another POV, I once heard an interesting talk from a Tibetan teacher on this idea of working through stuff. His view was that the crap has

[FairfieldLife] Painful internal dynamics (was Re: CC is Baby Awakening)

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . In his very traditional view, the crap is related to states of attention. A certain level of internal crap is just how one sees

Re: [FairfieldLife] Painful internal dynamics (was Re: CC is Baby Awakening)

2005-06-17 Thread Vaj
On Jun 16, 2005, at 9:45 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: Related to this topic and the short but recent Hitler thread, I just finished reading Chapter 3 of Robert Perry's _Path of Light_, which describes the levels of the mind according to the Course in Miracles. It describes in brutal terms how

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No more I Discussions-AMEN

2005-06-17 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (.) I say amen to that brother. I would've used seven dots. :-) Unc

[FairfieldLife] Re: No more I Discussions-AMEN

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
(.) I say amen to that brother. I would've used seven dots. :-) We don't speak to the 7 dot people. Can we compromise on 6? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No more I Discussions-AMEN

2005-06-17 Thread Vaj
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[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Santa Cruz TM forest retreat

2005-06-17 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/16/05 11:45 PM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Karunamayi

2005-06-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/17/05 12:14 AM, Rick Archer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/17/05 12:11 AM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip That would be a very subjective judgment. Objectively speaking, in terms of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Jeff

2005-06-17 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard today on Howard Stern that Katie Holmes had achieved a level four operating theton. The attributes associated with that accomplishment seemed to be near onmiscience. What is a level 4 operating

[FairfieldLife] Yoga sutras

2005-06-17 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Yoga sutras Sent by a friend: In the Yoga Sutras of Maharshi Patanjali is a clear instruction to the aspirant on how to handle negative situations and negativity in general, both inside and out while on the path to enlightenment. The instruction was given to me by my Guru a over 2

[FairfieldLife] Tom pops the question in my 'hood

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
Ran into them both last night, went for drinks, and while Katie was on her way to the loo Tom asks me, Dude, whaddya think...should I marry her? I took one look at her cute little butt and gave him the thumbs-up. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it... :-) Tom Cruise Proposes to Katie

[FairfieldLife] Transformative work versus indulging with emotions(was painfulinternal dynamics)

2005-06-17 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irmeli:I see this to be a dualistic understanding. And it is very typical to the eastern traditions. This is also the weak spot of many of those traditions. Certain emotions like fear and anger are labelled as negative.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yoga sutras

2005-06-17 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vitarkabadhane pratipaksabhavanam When a mind is disturbed by negative thoughts, constantly ponder over the opposite -yoga Sutras Maharshi Patanjali I think this works if you simultaneously pay attention

[FairfieldLife] Re: Karunamayi

2005-06-17 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote snip And if you can, plan to stay up all night on the 7th. It won't end until the sun is up on the 8th. There's a grand finale that's not to be missed. I'm calling this the Rick Archer Closer. How can one resist?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Jeff

2005-06-17 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Howard not trashing it? He must be getting soft in his old age. Or scared of the Scientology lawyers. :-) Thanks for the question. Jeff Thanks for the comeback. lurk To subscribe, send a message to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Karunamayi

2005-06-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/17/05 9:53 AM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote snip And if you can, plan to stay up all night on the 7th. It won't end until the sun is up on the 8th. There's a grand finale that's not to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tom pops the question in my 'hood

2005-06-17 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ran into them both last night, went for drinks, and while Katie was on her way to the loo Tom asks me, Dude, whaddya think...should I marry her? I took one look at her cute little butt and gave him the thumbs-up.

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mentally challenged ? No, as far as I know he's never had anything to do with Benjamin Creme. :-) Care to clarify ? No, other than to suspect that my rebellious, mentally-challenged, ice-cream

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Jeff

2005-06-17 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A related question might be (and it isn't as negative as it might sounds, merely curiosity), do you find that rich and famous people are rated higher on the Scientology scale than everyday people? Unc As far as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transformative work versus indulging with emotions(was painfulinternal dynamics)

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unc:The judgment is purely about the karmic effect of indulging in these emotions. Indulging in anger and fear brings the perceiver down

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Jeff

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen and believe Scientology helps people. Cruise does too, but he's in a much better position to get the word out as a lot of people are interested in celebs and he has the opportunity to rub shoulders

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tom pops the question in my 'hood

2005-06-17 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ran into them both last night, went for drinks, and while Katie was on her way to the loo Tom asks me, Dude, whaddya

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Very Compelling Broadcast Tonight (also repeats immediately afterwards)

2005-06-17 Thread Robert Gimbel
---I hear what you're saying, like it's all past history, so what's the point. I just have a compulsion to know the truth about stuff... In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So then knowing what you have learned what will you do with it? - Original

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not posting http://www.shareintl.org now here for you since I doubt that you are interested, but for other less predjudiced souls who could be interested in finding out who Maitreya really is. A sattvic figment of Mr. Creme's over active

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transformative work versus indulging with emotions(was painfulinternal dynamics)

2005-06-17 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unc:The judgment is purely about the karmic effect of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transformative work versus indulging with emotions(was painfulinternal dynamics)

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
One last comment on this topic. The person who gave the talk that my comments are based upon was a monk. His entire *life* was dedicated to spending as much of his time as possible working for the welfare of others. This entailed spending as little of it as possible thinking about himself

[FairfieldLife] Painful internal dynamics (was Re: CC is Baby Awakening)

2005-06-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, this internal crap, can be there as you say, and still hold the awareness part of you, the part that witnesses. In reality, that part that witnesses is the experience of soul energy and that soul energy, when

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transformative work versus indulging with emotions(was painfulinternal dynamics)

2005-06-17 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're both just theories that we're spouting. Probably NEITHER is correct. Like I said, I'm not trying to sell mine. I'm just putting it out there for others to bounce off of. Unc OK. I'll bounce this

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And personally, I'm working on my last words being, as I surf into the Bardo, Shit, that was fun! :-) Unc Unc, I would've thought yours would be more like, Man, that was f*cked UP, waaay UP! To subscribe, send

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transformative work versus indulging with emotions(was painfulinternal dynamics)

2005-06-17 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They said, Neurosis is a rich person's disease. You have to have a lot of time on your hands to care about neuroses. When your entire day is being spent just trying to survive, you don't have time for this kind of

[FairfieldLife] Painful internal dynamics (was Re: CC is Baby Awakening)

2005-06-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I once heard an interesting talk from a Tibetan teacher on this idea of working through stuff. His view was that the crap has no existence; to focus on it in an attempt to work through it tends to give it existence,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transformative work versus indulging with emotions(was painfulinternal dynamics)

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're both just theories that we're spouting. Probably NEITHER is correct. Like I said, I'm not trying to sell mine. I'm just

[FairfieldLife] Benj. Creme finds Jesus

2005-06-17 Thread Vaj
http://www.piratejesus.com/001.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And personally, I'm working on my last words being, as I surf into the Bardo, Shit, that was fun! :-) Unc, I would've thought yours

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yoga sutras

2005-06-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sent by a friend: in order for it to work you have to think the exact opposite thought, not just a positive thought. sounds a lot like a distillation of Byron Katie's technique. To subscribe, send a message to:

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who could be interested in finding out who Maitreya really is. just curious, have you been in the physical presence of one of Maitreya's incarnations? If so, what was it like? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transformative work versus indulging with emotions(was painfulinternal dynamics)

2005-06-17 Thread Jeff Fischer
Jeff wrote: The difference here, IMO, is that if someone continues to go over (put directed attention on) an incident, it will eventually dissolve. If you just put your attention on it without fully confronting it, it does grow stronger and have a negative effect. Turquoise wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transformative work versus indulging with emotions(was painfulinternal dynamics)

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's my theory. Today. Tomorrow I may have another one. :-) Cool, man, cool. BTW what did you think of that TurQy handle or is it old hat? Had never heard it before. Gobbled it right up. With gravy. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unc, I would've thought yours would be more like, Man, that was f*cked UP, waaay UP! I had in mind my whole life when I wrote the above. And there is simply no WAY that it was f*cked up. It's been pretty much a gas

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: words can be too fun a puzzle for me sometimes...I meant it this way when I said it: f*cked referring to your enjoyable sexual experiences that you have touched upon on FFL, and UP meaning you have merged your

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
You should read Finnegan's Wake. That'd keep you busy for a while. :-) Playing with words in several lang- uages, and with the sounds they make, relating them to the sound of Dublin English. About the only quote I can remember gives you a taste: In the name of the former, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread anonymousff
Reply to Akasha appears below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [SNIP] That Awareness is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transformative work versus indulging with emotions(was painfulinternal dynam

2005-06-17 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unc:Continuing the discussion (and I really see it as adiscussion, not an argument or an attempt to convinceanyone of anything), IS suppression the same as simplyshifting one's attention?Think TM. When you become aware that

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Santa Cruz TM forest retreat

2005-06-17 Thread martyboi
I lived for five years just a few minutes from this location. It is very, very lovely. It has a natural soft and silent feeling. My meditations were always deep and clear there. Groups programs or WPA's would probably be fantastic. I think the angels are already there. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Santa Cruz TM forest retreat

2005-06-17 Thread jim_flanegin
Great- I hope it happens, so that us 'valley dwellers' can receive the benefit too! I've spent a lot of time in the Santa Cruz mountains- I agree, really good energy! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martyboi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I lived for five years just a few minutes from this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transformative work versus indulging with emotions(was painfulinternal dynam

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
All of this sounds good, and sounds productive. As I said to you, we were speaking different languages. I assumed you were talking about transforming emotions by pondering them intellectually; you were talking about feeling the body. And as I said to Dr. Pete, I think that can be beneficial.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transformative work versus indulging with emotions(was painfulinternal dynamics)

2005-06-17 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the things that I find most refreshing about many of the Tibetan monks I have met is that they spend almost NO time working on themselves. Their own enlightenment is SECONDARY to helping others. Given a choice

Re: [FairfieldLife] A Very Compelling Broadcast Tonight (also repeats immediately afterwards)

2005-06-17 Thread Bhairitu
I'll vouch for the Streamlink subscription. The Bay Area station KSFO is only 5KW and even locally does not come in well at night (and during the day is the hang out of right-wing wack jobs). So the subscription and downloading the shows I want (also available as Podcasts) well worth it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread martyboi
Sorry for lurking, but I think this is a very interesting discussion: I like the way that Eckhart Tolle talks about words in relationship to enlightenment. He says that all word are just pointers, because the experience is beyond words, beyond thought. He explains that words like: Self, being,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transformative work versus indulging with emotions(was painfulinternal dynamics)

2005-06-17 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are all different forms of experiential or cathartic work. They are effective if the attention is primarily on the bodily experience and not in the mind. The

[FairfieldLife] Destructive Emotions

2005-06-17 Thread Vaj
The study of destructive emotions is a popular field of research in cutting edge meditation research. http://www.snowlionpub.com/pages/N51_4.php DESTRUCTIVE EMOTIONS: The Mind and Life Conference 2000 By Ven. Thubten Chodron Beginning in the mid-1980s, the Mind and Life Institute has brought

[FairfieldLife] 'Blitzkrieg/ShockAwe/Military Glorification/What's Next I Wonder?...'

2005-06-17 Thread Robert Gimbel
General Tommy Franks indicated that a plan for martial law is well in place, if there is another major attack. You know we could be very close to a military dictatorship; the way things are going. R. Gimbel Seattle, WA. Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Very Compelling Broadcast Tonight (also repeats immediately afterwards)

2005-06-17 Thread Llundrub
Nah, what I'm saying is that if you really believed that our own government was killing us on purpose you would run out into the streets screaming, unless you were scared of them, or of losing your place in society. Like all people, it's easier to believe the lie than get run over by the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread Llundrub
When Creme ranks Antoine Nader up with Jesus I'll take notice. - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] "Purity of the teaching" (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices /

Re: [FairfieldLife] Benj. Creme finds Jesus

2005-06-17 Thread Vaj
On Jun 17, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Llundrub wrote: Worth every second. Arrrgh!

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some responses below: akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen wrote: CC is baby

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Blitzkrieg/ShockAwe/Military Glorification/What's Next I Wonder?...'

2005-06-17 Thread Llundrub
If the military isn't all killed first. It gettin to be safer in the hood. Charles Manson had some predictions on this topic. - Original Message - From: Robert Gimbel To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO sells Chicago hotel

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
I take it then, that you HAVE complained to the IRS, and you were ignored, which is why you're bitching and moaning about things on this group rather than cooperating with an ongoing investigation of what you describe below? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] You can always organize a study of newly awakened former TMers and compare their physiology to the ongoing participants in the program.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it is not a response to Chopra. How do you know? The purpose of an organisation - is to organize on all levels. Ingegerd Um, OK, but how do you know that the, obvious to me at least, testing of the rajas by

[FairfieldLife] Re: account of MUM dining hall murder

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously, the Powers that Be thought this was simple unstressing and didn't act on the warning signs. Well, duh. That's the whole purpose of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you ever seen the signs (eeg studies etc...) of any other people besides TMers. Did you even take a look at Ken_Stops_His_Brainwaves.wmv that Vaj posted? Pretty impressive. I'm afraid that was a cheat! I

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, MMY has characterized CC as merely normal, and as glorified ignorance. All that CC is is when there is 24/7 presence of Self. The claim that I and me goes away is either a

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I take that as a no. And am left with the impression that your view is based on your interpretation of any number of advanced lecture

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mind

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right NOW... First there is an I -- then there is no I -- then there is. Second there is a mind--then there is no mind--then there is. Third there is a mountain--then there is no mountain--then there is. Right

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a substantial group of the 'newly awakened' here writing on FFL, willing to stick their necks out. How many of them are still

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/15/05 2:23 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since purity of the teaching is and always has been MMY's most important focus, he's been willing to tolerate less-than- creative

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread anonymousff
Thanks for the comments martyboi. You have made the assumption that all languages for describing enlightenment are describing the same thing, even though the descriptions sound different. This may not be the case. This becomes more than just an interesting hobby when having to make choices

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CC is well described as glorified ignorance, especially the early stages of it. But, Sparaig, you need to read your 'Gita a little more carefully regarding I and enlightenment. I suspect your understanding of

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Obviously, this is not a purity of the teaching issue per se, but it IS an example of the fascist mindset that can develop in those who espouse it as an excuse for just being fascists. There's always that danger, of

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's Peter? That's what I've been trying to figure out. ? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Akasha, great to see you back. Hope you are well. On Jun 15, 2005, at 9:29 PM, akasha_108 wrote: Ut oh Peter, now you have done it! You called CC baby awakening. Tom is going to go totally ballistic! I quoted you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Destructive Emotions

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The study of destructive emotions is a popular field of research in cutting edge meditation research. http://www.snowlionpub.com/pages/N51_4.php Nice article, Vaj. Thanks for posting it. Unc To subscribe, send a

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Reacting to' vs. 'bouncing off of'

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of them has to be RIGHT, and the other WRONG. And therefore the only proper response to a contrary view is to challenge it and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Benj. Creme finds Jesus

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 17, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Llundrub wrote: Worth every second. Arrrgh! Can we get Johnny Depp to play Jesus in the movie? :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does seem rather ironic that a spiritual movement who's primary goal is enlightenment does not encourage its members to talk about

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am simply saying I don't necessarily experience a natural progression of TC - CC - GC - UC...and really either does the tradition. That's reassuring for me. I know some paths introduce unity right away--you grab what you

[FairfieldLife] 'St.Germain: Greed Root of Evil...'june 16, 2005'

2005-06-17 Thread Robert Gimbel
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: [NESARA CANADA] St Germain: Greed is the Root of all Evil, 16th June 2005 St. Germain: Greed is the Root of all Evil 16th June, 2005 There is a sudden upsurge of interest in the various petitions being presented to the authorities. People are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a substantial group of the 'newly awakened' here

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then it hits him, in a blinding flash of realization, that he's sitting there quivering in his seat, about to be judged by his betters for the dastardly crime of Eating Ice Cream. He starts to laugh. They call

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Reacting to' vs. 'bouncing off of'

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of them has to be RIGHT, and the other WRONG. And

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That response was quite funny, Vaj! Said Peter when Vaj pushed his button... Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 15, 2005, at 11:17 PM, sparaig wrote: All that CC is is when there is 24/7 presence of Self. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the comments martyboi. You have made the assumption that all languages for describing enlightenment are describing the same thing, even though the descriptions sound different. This may not be the case.

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
Why did you CARE? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your friend has great experience and is pushed out of the TMO. Maybe there is some truth to the old rumor that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So which Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath has endorsed YOU as a preferred candidate to become his sucessor? It's just a meaningless statement, Lawson. It's like someone saying, My choice for US President is Nelson Mandela.

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stand up to them, especially in a way that makes them look ridiculous or causes others to laugh at them, and they turn back into what they always were, timid little mice given power before they were mature enough to

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stand up to them, especially in a way that makes them look ridiculous or causes others to laugh at them, and they turn back into what they

[FairfieldLife] Re: CC is Baby Awakening

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CC is baby awakening. Cessation of identification of consciousness

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