Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-05-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/4/06 4:31 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Well, did it work?  I mean, have you been happy all these years > doing 40 minutes per meditation more than others?  Or do you feel it > was unnecessary? Happy. I still do it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECT

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-05-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 5/4/06 1:41 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > >> > >> on 5/4/06 11:44 AM, jim_flanegin at jflanegi@ wrote: > > >>> right,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-05-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/4/06 1:41 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> on 5/4/06 11:44 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> right, that's what I meant- that if you add up all the 'meditation >>> minute

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-05-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 5/4/06 11:44 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > > right, that's what I meant- that if you add up all the 'meditation > > minutes' so to speak, that they are equivalent to someone meditating >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-05-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/4/06 11:44 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > right, that's what I meant- that if you add up all the 'meditation > minutes' so to speak, that they are equivalent to someone meditating > for 5 plus years, non-stop... Yup. At least an hour 2x/day since 1970. I'm a tough nut t

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-05-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 5/4/06 11:03 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > >> > >> on 4/26/06 8:14 PM, jim_flanegin at jflanegi@ wrote: > >> > >>> With th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-05-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/4/06 11:03 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> on 4/26/06 8:14 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> With the wealth of meditation reflected on this site, possibly > what, >>> a

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-05-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/26/06 8:14 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > With the wealth of meditation reflected on this site, possibly what, > > a thousand years worth or so (30 years meditation + rounding and/or > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-05-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/26/06 8:14 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > With the wealth of meditation reflected on this site, possibly what, > a thousand years worth or so (30 years meditation + rounding and/or > sidhis equals ~one year meditation each for ~1000 members of FFL), > what is the harm in an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-05-04 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/26/06 7:08 PM, anon_astute_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Vaj does not only like to recycle old articles he once posted here >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Guruphiliac/message/825 > > Is there a ban again

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > authfriend wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >  > > > >>Apparently some who hang out on this list are unemployed or how > >>else do we explain the number of posts they make everyda

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-29 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >  > >>Apparently some who hang out on this list are unemployed or how >>else do we explain the number of posts they make everyday? >>    >> > >Or are self-employed and work from home, like me, and >

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Apparently some who hang out on this list are unemployed or how > else do we explain the number of posts they make everyday? Or are self-employed and work from home, like me, and take quick breaks by dropping over he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-29 Thread Bhairitu
A few Rabid dogs in this forum bit me severely.  Surely can't trust anyone here and reveal one's identity. >  > >ShempMcGurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >  Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:56:54 - >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation > >   >  &g

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > > > Whatever. I think you just like to believe > > that I "embellish" because you chose to > > settle for a boring life. > > Oh, I'll readily admit

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > Barry: > > > > I don't read all of your posts only because I don't have the time > to. > > Of those that I read, I do so because I admire you

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > Barry: > > > > I don't read all of your posts only because I don't have the time > to. > > Of those that I read, I do so because I admire your

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Barry: > > I don't read all of your posts only because I don't have the time to. > Of those that I read, I do so because I admire your writing skills, > particularly your ability to express the unique and int

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Barry: > > I don't read all of your posts only because I don't have the time > to. Of those that I read, I do so because I admire your writing > skills, particularly your ability to express the unique and > in

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > p.s. i love it when the "anon's" insult behind their > > > > > veil of obscurity. > > > > > > > > Any ID that starts with 'anon' is *automatically* > > > > placed in the Pissant Bin, so I haven't been read

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-28 Thread Jason Spock
nyone here and reveal one's identity. ShempMcGurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:56:54 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation   > > > >True. No-one who finds a need to hide their identity could > > > >ever have any worthwhil

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-28 Thread Vaj
On Apr 28, 2006, at 6:25 AM, sparaig wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB   > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In Fairf

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-28 Thread TurquoiseB
> > > > p.s. i love it when the "anon's" insult behind their > > > > veil of obscurity. > > > > > > Any ID that starts with 'anon' is *automatically* > > > placed in the Pissant Bin, so I haven't been read- > > > ing any of their comments. Don't find that I miss 'em. > > > > True. No-one who

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > > > p.s. i love it when the "anon's" insult behind their > > > veil of obscurity. > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > p.s. i love it when the "anon's" insult behind their > veil of obscurity. Any ID that starts with 'anon' is *automatically* placed in the Pissant Bin, so I haven't been read- ing any of their comments. Don't find that I

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > Tiddly-winks isn't an end-state either, you know. Always room > > more... > > tiddlies? winks? > > > Yes, the game of Tiddly-Winks goes on, and on, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > >  And why do  > > > TMer descriptions of CC, GC or UC seldom venture beyond what > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > p.s. i love it when the "anon's" insult behind their > > veil of obscurity. > > I am glad you feel full of love today Peter. A clear sign of your > r

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's even more remarkable is the hours upon hours he spends > dialoguing with these "pissants". > > And even moe remarkable than that is his utterance a few days ago > that he wasn't long for this forum...see

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > wrote: > > > > > > --- shempmcgurk wrote: > > > > > > > Why did you assume that Vaj is a "ma

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread anon_astute_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > p.s. i love it when the "anon's" insult behind their > veil of obscurity. I am glad you feel full of love today Peter. A clear sign of your remarkable sprititual achievements. I love it too when individuals hide behind

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > you don't really feel like coddling > > pissants.  :-) > > Seeing others as pissants and snakes. A clear sign of seeing the Self > in all things. Wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > --- shempmcgurk wrote: > > > > > Why did you assume that Vaj is a "man"? > > > > > > She is a mother of three. > > > > Four, if you count me, the ba

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > --- shempmcgurk wrote: > > > > > Why did you assume that Vaj is a "man"? > > > > > > She is a mother of three. > > > > Four, if you count me, the ba

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > you don't really feel like coddling > > pissants.  :-) > > Seeing others as pissants and snakes. A clear sign of seeing the Self > in all things. Wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Why did you assume that Vaj is a "man"? > > > > She is a mother of three. > > Four, if you count me, the bastard son! > p.s. i love it when the "anon's" insult behind th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread Peter
--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Why did you assume that Vaj is a "man"? > > She is a mother of three. Four, if you count me, the bastard son! p.s. i love it when the "anon's" insult behind their veil of obscurity.

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread anon_astute_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: you don't really feel like coddling > pissants.  :-) Seeing others as pissants and snakes. A clear sign of seeing the Self in all things. What remarkable spiritual achievements these individuals have obtained.

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > >  And why do  > > TMer descriptions of CC, GC or UC seldom venture beyond what > they've  > > been told? Was this meant to be a built-in test in and of it

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > > > The seeker instead hears these, and having gained a glimpse of one

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And then there's Veuve Cliquot > Ponsardin (orange label, French) as a real treat; > 30 bucks a bottle but worth it once in a blue moon... And not any cheaper here in France. One can find *remarkable*, to-die

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" > wrote: > > > > I find I like champagne > > So did the Nazis in WWII. It sure worked out for them. :-) > Have you come across any alcohol drinking adult who *does

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I find I like champagne So did the Nazis in WWII. It sure worked out for them. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > The seeker instead hears these, and having gained a glimpse of one > > or many of the hallmarks of each of these states, may mistake the > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The seeker instead hears these, and having gained a glimpse of one > or many of the hallmarks of each of these states, may mistake the > relative achievement of CC or GC or UC as the goal, instead of the > pro

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" > > wrote: > > > > > > I find I like champagne > > > > Which ones? > > The liquid kinds

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > Hi, I appreciate your comments and questions, but I find myself > > unable to respond to each of them, just as an artist would find it > > dif

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > Lost me here. > > Though I think I get what jim is getting at, it struck me as odd/funny > that "work on one area and the next" aka polishing parts, cr

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And why do  > TMer descriptions of CC, GC or UC seldom venture beyond what they've  > been told? Was this meant to be a built-in test in and of itself? Although I've never heard "officially", yeah, I think the definitio

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread anon_astute_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I appreciate your comments and questions, but I find myself > unable to respond to each of them, just as an artist would find it > difficult to justify or explain each brushstroke, or a poet each > line of a

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread anon_astute_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 27, 2006, at 12:12 PM, anon_astute_ff wrote: Jim:  > > > As we work on one area and the next, creating gradually > > > and permanenently our awakened selves, > > the "awakened selves" are composed of polished p

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > Much more interesting than any of this, though, was > > Jim Flanegin's response to the original post ... > > ... > This is a thoughtful and pote

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread Vaj
On Apr 27, 2006, at 12:12 PM, anon_astute_ff wrote: > This is a thoughtful and potentially useful counterpoint > to Vaj's analysis. [sequencing changed] > > Yes, but it reaises some points for discussion (not the same as > arguments supporting entrenched POVs) > > > > --- > > Hi Vaj, and t

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread anon_astute_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" > wrote: > > > > I find I like champagne > > Which ones? The liquid kinds. > > > > > > "My advice to you is to start drinking heavily" > > > > > > -- Senat

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff > > wrote: > > > > > > When will Vaj ever learn that ego gratification is not the > > > solut

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I find I like champagne Which ones? > > > > "My advice to you is to start drinking heavily" > > > > -- Senator John Blutarsky > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http:/

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread wayback71
I find I like champagne --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" > wrote: > > > [snip] > > What do you think Buddha, Guru Dev, the Dalai Lama, or Vyasa or MMY > would say > > to a life lived in fr

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] What do you think Buddha, Guru Dev, the Dalai Lama, or Vyasa or MMY would say > to a life lived in front of the computer, hours and hours and hours a day with nitpicky > posts and without giving or helpin

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread anon_astute_ff
And yet you have enough time to read this vast wasteland (IYO) called FFL. Just think of all the seva you could do if you just quit wasting your time, got out from in front of the PC, and did something useful. What is this compulstion to keep doing something you abhor? :) --- In FairfieldLife@y

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread anon_astute_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff > > wrote: > > > > > > When will Vaj ever learn that ego gratification is not the > > > solut

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] What do you think Buddha, Guru Dev, the Dalai Lama, or Vyasa or MMY would say > to a life lived in front of the computer, hours and hours and hours a day with nitpicky > posts and without giving or helping another

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > > wrote: > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > wrote: > > > > > I'm pretty certain Vaj never said anything of the sort, > > > nor d

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff > wrote: > > > > When will Vaj ever learn that ego gratification is not the > > solution to spiritual insecurity and immaturity? What a > > sad, bitter littl

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When will Vaj ever learn that ego gratification is not the solution to > spiritual insecurity and immaturity? What a sad, bitter little man. Why did you assume that Vaj is a "man"? She is a mother of thre

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread anon_astute_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Much more interesting than any of this, though, was > Jim Flanegin's response to the original post ... ... This is a thoughtful and potentially useful counterpoint to Vaj's analysis. [sequencing changed] Yes, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > My

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > > I'm pretty certain Vaj never said anything of the sort, > > nor did I. Although I now regret having done so, I once > > mentioned that I t

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are apparently traditions where the teacher holds absolute > power over the student, to the point that they must test and > confirm each state that the student achieves, or strives to > achieve. > > Ca

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, I was not being sarcastic. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff > wrote: > > > > > > When will Vaj ever learn that ego g

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I visited the guruphil site once and felt that they were kind > of lost in the whole expose thing- like that _expression_, when > you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail...it may work > for some, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > > > wrote: > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > And that's the way many advaitins (like the ones who run that list)  > > are reacting to the piece--it's very positive: > > > > "This is just the mature, sobe

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am suggesting that imputing motives not very interesting or > productive -- in terms of advancing ideas and the discussion. That its > also is pretty iffy -- and often tells us more about the > "motives-outer"

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > > wrote: > > > > > > The Fairfield satsang group is connected to a phone bridge, and > > > V

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, and did I say there should be one? > > Well, you were not exactly complimenting Vaj for cross-posting. You > were not saying, "Hey, our own Vaj got a well-recieved post published > in a well-read blog, kud

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread anon_astute_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > Please note that my post was > > > more about the two followup posts of Vaj abou

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > Please note that my post was > > more about the two followup posts of Vaj about the peculiar FFL > > scene which he doesn't have the guts to call by nam

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread anon_astute_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff wrote: > > > > > Vaj does not only like to recycle old articles he once posted here > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Guruphiliac/message/825 > > > > Is there a

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > My understanding is that Vaj was referring to satsang > > > gatherings *in Fairfi

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > My understanding is that Vaj was referring to satsang > > > gatherings *in Fairfi

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 27, 2006, at 4:21 AM, t3rinity wrote: > > > > Actually this is a common thing and has a long history with this  > > poster. > > > > > > Apparently he didn't realize it had already been posted here over a > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > My understanding is that Vaj was referring to satsang > > gatherings *in Fairfield*, the town--not to FFL, the > > Yahoo forum. > > I see. But does he

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My understanding is that Vaj was referring to satsang > gatherings *in Fairfield*, the town--not to FFL, the > Yahoo forum. I see. But does he live there, has he been to Satsangs there, or does he just know of them

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 27, 2006, at 5:08 AM, t3rinity wrote: > > > I think he is honest in one way, > > he is a traditionalist, and I myself have quite a few dear friends who > > think like him - just I think different and am more open

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff wrote: > > > And don't you have anything better to do than cross-post someone > elses messages? > > Not at the moment. ;-) > > > Very > > childish and vindict

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps you missed Barry's post claiming that Vaj > had never said anything of the sort.  That's what > Trinity was responding to, you see. Actually yes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And don't you have anything better to do than cross-post someone elses messages? Not at the moment. ;-) > Very > childish and vindictive if you ask me. I happend to come across the posts at Guruphiliac. As i

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > > > But it strikes me a bit, that the same > > > poster, Vaj, has once tried to turn

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread anon_astute_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > But it strikes me a bit, that the same > > poster, Vaj, has once tried to turn on amt posters to migrate to Ffl > > (again nothing invalid in itself) becau

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread Vaj
On Apr 27, 2006, at 5:08 AM, t3rinity wrote:I think he is honest in one way,he is a traditionalist, and I myself have quite a few dear friends whothink like him - just I think different and am more open to thepossibiltity of immediate enlightenment,and think its traditional.What really took me wa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread Vaj
On Apr 27, 2006, at 4:21 AM, t3rinity wrote: > > Actually this is a common thing and has a long history with this  > poster. > > > > Apparently he didn't realize it had already been posted here over a > > month ago...or that it was not about FFL. > > Sorry Vaj you just got hung up on my first

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But it strikes me a bit, that the same > poster, Vaj, has once tried to turn on amt posters to migrate to Ffl > (again nothing invalid in itself) because of the many enlightened > posters here. Just to back this up a

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > > > Vaj does not only like to recycle old articles he once posted here > > > http://groups.y

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > > > Vaj does not only like to recycle old articles he once posted here > > > http://groups

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread anon_astute_ff
No, I was not being sarcastic. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff wrote: > > > > When will Vaj ever learn that ego gratification is not the solution to > > spiritual insecurity and immaturity? W

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation

2006-04-27 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When will Vaj ever learn that ego gratification is not the solution to > spiritual insecurity and immaturity? What a sad, bitter little man. Hmm, you aren't being sarcastic here? I think he is honest in one way

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