Re: [Felvtalk] New Member

[Margo]

Dear Deborah,

 What a lousy way to start off as a Foster Mom. It isn't usually like that. Usually you get to play with wonderful little beings, and then send them to their Forever homes. It's never easy to let them go, but knowing that they will have new lives, and you can go on to help the next ones, it kind of balances out.

Unfortunately, there don't seem to be any hard and fast rules for FeLV. From my research, It seems that while cats can test negative and yet still harbor the virus, when they DO test negative, they are not contagious. The problem is multi-faceted, though. In your case, wedon't know when the MomCat sero-coverted to positive. Was it during her stay with you? After she left you? If that, then the kittens have a good chance of never testing positive. It's also possible, in fact most likely,that the MomCat was exposed before she was taken into rescue. The incubation period for FeLV is variable, and that's the biggest problem. We just don't know what the time frames are. It's also possible for a cat to test negative, become positive (after incubation) and then recover completely. That can takeup 16 weeks, some sources say longer. From; http://abcd-vets.org/guidelines/guidelines_pdf/1201-FeLV_Guideline.pdf, when discussing positive yet healthy cats;

"Cats testing positive may overcome viraemia after two to sixteen weeks - in rare
cases even later. Therefore, every test-positive healthy cat should be separated
and retested after several weeks or months;"

 So, it is very possible that they will be negative in 30 days, but they may be positive. The question is whether they will STAY positive. Or stay negative. Even if they become positive, and return to negative, it won't be clear whether they still harbor the virus, or have cleared it completely. 

This is no help, I know. I wish there were more I could tell you, but I'm struggling to understand it, myself. 

All the best,

Margo


-Original Message- From: Deborah Adams Sent: Jun 6, 2013 4:14 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member 


Hi all,

I'm a new member of this group hoping to better understand FeLv and the situation that I'm in. Last month, I decided to foster kittens for my local humane society as a summer project with my 2 girls (age 7 and 10 years). We were given a momma cat and her 3 kittens who were about 4-5 weeks old, found as strays. All were initially tested for FeLv and came back negative (I don't know which test HS used.) After helping momma wean her kittens, I returned her to the shelter this past weekend. Yesterday she was retested for FeLV before her spay surgery and was positive. (HS checked both her blood and serum.) Today, I took the kittens back to HS for testing and they are negative for FeLV. I agreed to continue fostering them for 30 days and then they will be retested.

How much hope do these kittens have? Is there any chance that they will continue to be negative for FeLV? I'm so stressed about all this. My kids are heart-broken. I feel like everything is going all wrong. First, they all got URI and one kitten got a persistent eye infection that took three different antibiotics until it finally cleared up. But her eye is all clouded over and she is probably blind in that eye. And now this FeLV scare. I don't know if I can handle fostering.

Deborah Adams

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[Amanda K. Payne]

Deborah,

First of all, thank you for fostering!  You and your daughters provided an
invaluable service for your local HS.

I'm sorry your first fostering experience has been tainted by FeLV.  Please
understand that FeLV isn't an automatic death sentence though cats and
kittens who are positive usually have a shorter life span.  However, it
doesn't mean their quality of life is horrible the entire time they are
alive.  Whether they live for days or months or years, FeLV+ cats and
kittens can have fun, be crazy, play like there is no tomorrow and give
tons of love.

Testing kittens for FeLV can be troublesome, especially if they've been
exposed to the virus.  I work with several different rescues in the Los
Angeles area and also have a FeLV+ cat and have had them in the past.  Most
rescues and vets will recommend testing the kittens once they have reached
six months of age OR have been separated from an FeLV carrier for six
months.  False positives happen more frequently in kittens under 6 months
of age so that is why they suggest testing when they hit the six month
mark.

As far as their chances of having FeLV, no one can say with certainty or
give you probabilities.  Some kittens get it while others don't.  For
instance, I've had a kitten that was rescued from a hoarder.  This kitten
was around three other litters for two months and around the mama cats.
 The kitten I brought home was FeLV+ but no other kittens ever tested
positive nor did their mamas.  As you can see, FeLV is a real crapshoot.  I
apologize I can't give you a more definitive answer.

Most importantly, and I cannot stress this enough, is how important
fostering is.  I know your current experience is rough and you may feel you
are not up to it.  Whether these kittens end up with FeLV or not, your
fostering them most likely saved their lives. Even if their lives are cut
short by a FeLV related illness, they knew love and care and that is the
most important part of fostering; every animal deserves to know love and
safety and somebody has to love those FeLV kitties!  Hopefully, they stay
negative, find great homes and you choose to keep fostering.

Once again, thanks for fostering.

Best,
-Amanda


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Deborah Adams auntiede...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi all,** http://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/#

 I'm a new member of this group hoping to better understand FeLv and the
 situation that I'm in.  Last month, I decided to foster kittens for my
 local humane society as a summer project with my 2 girls (age 7 and 10
 years).  We were given a momma cat and her 3 kittens who were about 4-5
 weeks old, found as strays. All were initially tested for FeLv and came
 back negative (I don't know which test HS used.)  After helping momma wean
 her kittens, I returned her to the shelter this past weekend.  Yesterday
 she was retested for FeLV before her spay surgery and was positive. (HS
 checked both her blood and serum.)  Today, I took the kittens back to HS
 for testing and they are negative for FeLV.  I agreed to continue fostering
 them for 30 days and then they will be retested.

 How much hope do these kittens have? Is there any chance that they will
 continue to be negative for FeLV? I'm so stressed about all this.  My kids
 are heart-broken.  I feel like everything is going all wrong.  First, they
 all got URI and one kitten got a persistent eye infection that took three
 different antibiotics until it finally cleared up.  But her eye is all
 clouded over and she is probably blind in that eye.  And now this FeLV
 scare.  I don't know if I can handle fostering.

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Re: [Felvtalk] New member from Nebraska

[Lorrie]

Hi Marta,

Unfortuntely euthanasia is the best option in some cases. For example
if the cat who tested positive is a shelter cat.

However there are several of us on this list who have FelV sanctuaries,
and I am one of them. I have lost many kittens who has FelV pos. mothers
but my older FelV cats often live symptom free for many years. For example
I have two FelV + cats who are 5 years old.

Lorrie in WV

On 05-10, Marta Gasper wrote:
Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue
director in Fairbury, Nebraska.
One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago
also positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some
disorders that'd make him hard to adopt.
Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was
FeLV+ and some time before he succumbed  one of our foster kittens
tested leuk +._ Our vet concluded he would have been infected when
younger, he was tested after his uris kept returning; although we are
no-kill and try to give them the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia
is the best option.
 
Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other
than being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight
stopped eating and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making
gargling, squishy noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and
said it looked good, mild gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be
from further lesions/masses down his throath._ In a few days and
coincidentally he's developed bald spots that bleed and dark spots on
his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and fungal infections. Right now
he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to eat again, I suggested
interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and other problems that
made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to administer it though
because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows we're on a
limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia alternative
as Arlo won't get better.
I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't
know how much Interferon is right now etc.
 
Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if
the cat is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if
and what cancer he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even
try other treatments?
 
And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo,
what treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list
Marta


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Re: [Felvtalk] New member from Nebraska

[Lee Evans]

Sorry about all your problems with poor Arlo. Along with the vet's 
recommendations you might want to try L-lysine, which is an immune system 
stimulant, especially for fighting herpes virus. Good luck with Arlo. You're 
doing the best you can. 


 
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 From: Marta Gasper gasper.ma...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:59 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] New member from Nebraska
 


Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue director in 
Fairbury, Nebraska.
One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago also 
positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some disorders 
that'd make him hard to adopt.
Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was FeLV+ 
and some time before he succumbed  one of our foster kittens tested leuk +._ 
Our vet concluded he would have been infected when younger, he was tested 
after his uris kept returning; although we are no-kill and try to give them 
the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia is the best option.
 
Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other than 
being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight stopped eating 
and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making gargling, squishy 
noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and said it looked good, mild 
gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be from further lesions/masses down 
his throath._ In a few days and coincidentally he's developed bald spots that 
bleed and dark spots on his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and fungal 
infections. Right now he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to eat 
again, I suggested interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and other 
problems that made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to administer it 
though because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows we're on a 
limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia alternative as Arlo 
won't get better.
I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't know 
how much Interferon is right now etc.
 
Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if the cat 
is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if and what cancer 
he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even try other treatments?
 
And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo, what 
treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list
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Re: [Felvtalk] New member from Nebraska

[Lance]

Hi Marta,

Thanks for everything that you do for all of those cats, including Arlo.  I'm 
not aware of any specific recommendation that treatments be discontinued or not 
applied at any certain stage of infection or progress. However, I'm not an 
expert or veterinarian. 

I have given my FeLV+ girl Transfer Factor and Liquid DMG fairly regularly. She 
has also been on interferon (five days on/five days off protocol) ever since 
she tested positive. All three are supposed to help boost or modulate the 
immune system. Interferon is the only thing I give that requires a 
prescription. 

I have no info on nebulizers. I'd forgotten about them until tonight. Had to 
Google to be reminded.

Best wishes for you and Arlo,

Lance

On May 10, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Marta Gasper gasper.ma...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue director in 
 Fairbury, Nebraska.
 One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago also 
 positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some disorders 
 that'd make him hard to adopt.
 Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was FeLV+ 
 and some time before he succumbed  one of our foster kittens tested leuk +._ 
 Our vet concluded he would have been infected when younger, he was tested 
 after his uris kept returning; although we are no-kill and try to give them 
 the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia is the best option.
  
 Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other than 
 being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight stopped eating 
 and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making gargling, squishy 
 noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and said it looked good, mild 
 gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be from further lesions/masses 
 down his throath._ In a few days and coincidentally he's developed bald spots 
 that bleed and dark spots on his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and 
 fungal infections. Right now he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to 
 eat again, I suggested interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and 
 other problems that made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to 
 administer it though because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows 
 we're on a limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia 
 alternative as Arlo won't get better.
 I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't know 
 how much Interferon is right now etc.
  
 Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if the 
 cat is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if and what 
 cancer he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even try other 
 treatments?
  
 And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo, what 
 treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list
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Re: [Felvtalk] New member from Nebraska

[I-Chun C. C. Chang]

Dear Marta,

While searching for possible treatments, you may want to at least consider
stopping using Metacam:
http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/NewsEvents/CVMUpdates/ucm231254.htm
I personally know several cats died because of Metacam before other
diseases take them.
There are some alternative pain medications that your vet should be able to
provide you with.

with my best,
Catherine




On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Marta Gasper gasper.ma...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue director
 in Fairbury, Nebraska.
 One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago also
 positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some disorders
 that'd make him hard to adopt.
 Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was
 FeLV+ and some time before he succumbed  one of our foster kittens tested
 leuk +._ Our vet concluded he would have been infected when younger, he was
 tested after his uris kept returning; although we are no-kill and try to
 give them the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia is the best option.

 Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other than
 being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight stopped
 eating and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making gargling,
 squishy noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and said it looked
 good, mild gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be from further
 lesions/masses down his throath._ In a few days and coincidentally he's
 developed bald spots that bleed and dark spots on his fur. Vet said those
 were bacterial and fungal infections. Right now he's on Clavamox and
 metacam and is starting to eat again, I suggested interferon_we did have a
 FIV+ with stomatitis and other problems that made a remarkable comeback on
 it_and he agreed to administer it though because Arlo has all these
 symptoms and because he knows we're on a limited budget he talked about
 considering the euthanasia alternative as Arlo won't get better.
 I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't
 know how much Interferon is right now etc.

 Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if the
 cat is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if and what
 cancer he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even try other
 treatments?

 And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo, what
 treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list
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[Lorrie]

Welcome to the group, MaryAnn.  You'll find a lot of knowledgable
people here.  Tell us about your cats.

Lorrie  in WV

On 01-09, MaryAnn Riggs wrote:
Hi all.
My name is MaryAnn Riggs in southeastern Wisconsin.  I've been reading
comments for sometime, just haven't introduced myself yet.
Is there anyone on this list from Wisconsin?
thanks-mar


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[Beth]

Debbie -

There is no way to tell is he has FeLV without a blood test.Was the 11 year old 
cat tested for FeLV? Just wondering how he would have gotten it if his previous 
test were negative, though it can take 3 months for the bloodwork to show a 
positive test.
Prednisone depresses the immune system  should only be used in conjunction 
with a specific medical diagnosis.
Are his gums pink? He may be suffering from anemia. Is the stomatitis so bad he 
cannot eat? Was the Pred given to him for the Stomatitis?

Beth

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From: danbin...@netzero.com danbin...@netzero.com
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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] new member

Boy, am I glad to find this website and group.

I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV.

He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago.  I took him to the vet who was unable 
to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits.  I was 
unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step.  She decided, 
with the information that she had, that Buster had cholangiohepatitis.

Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant)

After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for 2 
years.

Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I 
described Buster she said she thought FeLV.  She said if he had a liver 
disease, I would see jaundice.  Buster does have a number of clinical signs:  
little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat, 
occasional eye problems.  No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea.

In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test which 
was negative.

I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year old 
rescue into the home.  All of my cats (3) are indoor only

I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there any 
cats being treated only with prednisolone?  I am not able to take Buster to the 
vet due to a number of reasons.  After almost 3 years, he has taken a big turn 
for the worse.  Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I don't think so, 
this time

Thank you so much

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[Marta Gasper]

Debbie
Welcome to the group_albeit circumstances but thats how most of us got here_I 
agree with Beth.
The symptoms you describe could be a number of diseases. No way to tell for 
sure if he has FeLV until he's been tested with a definitive test like an IFA, 
though in his case and given his age I'd say his former negative result is what 
it is.
I wonder why the vet thought it could be FeLV, specially since he has no 
diarrea/soft stools, blood disorders(wich show as blodd in stool). I wouldn't 
give him pred unless it is just supportve care, it suppreses the inmune system, 
the last thing any cat needs.
However if he has stomatitis I would.
I've had and have FeLV+s cats.
The one I've now is close to last stages, he's playful and animated but has a 
chronic URI, soft stools and bloody diahrrea, thrifty coat, sometimes he 
staggers, keeps getting sores, sneezes blood sometimes, that is because can't 
coagulate well, eats like a horse and hasn't gained an ounce. Well he has 
lately but my other cats would be basketballs if they ate like he does.
Besides he tested twice + on the ELISA and comes from a household where most 
cats were FeLV+. A hoarding situation, very sad but at least he has a better 
life now tho very limited.
Anyways I'd run a test first, to me I wouldn't jump to conclusions, stomatitis 
or other disorder sure could be. Don't put him on pred(steroids or 
glucocorticoids.
M

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--- On Wed, 11/16/11, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new member
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2011, 5:06 PM





Debbie -


There is no way to tell is he has FeLV without a blood test.Was the 11 year old 
cat tested for FeLV? Just wondering how he would have gotten it if his previous 
test were negative, though it can take 3 months for the bloodwork to show a 
positive test.
Prednisone depresses the immune system  should only be used in conjunction 
with a specific medical diagnosis.
Are his gums pink? He may be suffering from anemia. Is the stomatitis so bad he 
cannot eat? Was the Pred given to him for the Stomatitis?


Beth

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From: danbin...@netzero.com danbin...@netzero.com
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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] new member

Boy, am I glad to find this website and group.

I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV.

He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago.  I took him to the vet who was unable 
to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits.  I was 
unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step.  She decided, 
with the information that she had, that Buster had cholangiohepatitis.

Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant)

After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for 2 
years.

Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I 
described Buster she said she thought FeLV.  She said if he had a liver 
disease, I would see jaundice.  Buster does have a number of clinical signs:  
little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat, 
occasional eye problems.  No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea.

In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test which 
was negative.

I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year old 
rescue into the home.  All of my cats (3) are indoor only

I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there any 
cats being treated only with prednisolone?  I am not able to take Buster to the 
vet due to a number of reasons.  After almost 3 years, he has taken a big turn 
for the worse.  Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I don't think so, 
this time

Thank you so much

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[Beth]

A lot of vets think Stomatitis = FeLV, so that may be why she said she thought 
he had it.
Only one of my FeLV cats ever got Stomatitis  I had a negative cat that did 
have it.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:57 PM
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Debbie
Welcome to the group_albeit circumstances but thats how most of us got here_I 
agree with Beth.
The symptoms you describe could be a number of diseases. No way to tell for 
sure if he has FeLV until he's been tested with a definitive test like an IFA, 
though in his case and given his age I'd say his former negative result is what 
it is.
I wonder why the vet thought it could be FeLV, specially since he has no 
diarrea/soft stools, blood disorders(wich show as blodd in stool). I wouldn't 
give him pred unless it is just supportve care, it suppreses the inmune system, 
the last thing any cat needs.
However if he has stomatitis I would.
I've had and have FeLV+s cats.
The one I've now is close to last stages, he's playful and animated but has a 
chronic URI, soft stools and bloody diahrrea, thrifty coat, sometimes he 
staggers, keeps getting sores, sneezes blood sometimes, that is because can't 
coagulate well, eats like a horse and hasn't gained an ounce. Well he has 
lately but my other cats would be basketballs if they ate like he does.
Besides he tested twice + on the ELISA and comes from a household where most 
cats were FeLV+. A hoarding situation, very sad but at least he has a better 
life now tho very limited.
Anyways I'd run a test first, to me I wouldn't jump to conclusions, stomatitis 
or other disorder sure could be. Don't put him on pred(steroids or 
glucocorticoids.
M

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From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new member
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2011, 5:06 PM


Debbie -


There is no way to tell is he has FeLV without a blood test.Was the 11 year 
old cat tested for FeLV? Just wondering how he would have gotten it if his 
previous test were negative, though it can take 3 months for the bloodwork to 
show a positive test.
Prednisone depresses the immune system  should only be used in conjunction 
with a specific medical diagnosis.
Are his gums pink? He may be suffering from anemia. Is the stomatitis so bad 
he cannot eat? Was the Pred given to him for the Stomatitis?


Beth

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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] new member

Boy, am I glad to find this website and group.

I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV.

He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago.  I took him to the vet who was unable 
to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits.  I was 
unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step.  She decided, 
with the information that she had, that Buster had cholangiohepatitis.

Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant)

After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs
 for 2 years.

Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I 
described Buster she said she thought FeLV.  She said if he had a liver 
disease, I would see jaundice.  Buster does have a number of clinical signs:  
little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat, 
occasional eye problems.  No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea.

In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test 
which was negative.

I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year 
old rescue into the home.  All of my cats (3) are indoor only

I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there 
any cats being treated only with prednisolone?  I am not able to take Buster 
to the vet due to a number of reasons.  After almost 3 years, he has taken a 
big turn for the worse.  Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding),
 but I don't think so, this time

Thank you so much

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[Natalie]

Hi, everyone..I am in Mexico, and therefore not on the computer as often as
at home.

Re: prednisone - Sox, one of our five FIV+ cats, has severe stomatitis;  he
gets a prednisone injection about every three months; he also gets a few
drops of DMG in his food every day.  The vet says that he's doing really
well, because normally cats would get a monthly injection.  Sox sometimes
exceeds the three months..once we notice that his stomatitis is bothering
him (he won't eat), he gets another shot of prednisone. They all get CoQ10
to keep their gums in good shape (about 30-50mg daily), GNC Vegetarian
formula because it comes in powder from in capsules, easy to mix into the
food.  I get 100mg caps, and divide them up.  Natalie

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marta Gasper
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new member

 


Debbie

Welcome to the group_albeit circumstances but thats how most of us got
here_I agree with Beth.

The symptoms you describe could be a number of diseases. No way to tell for
sure if he has FeLV until he's been tested with a definitive test like an
IFA, though in his case and given his age I'd say his former negative result
is what it is.

I wonder why the vet thought it could be FeLV, specially since he has no
diarrea/soft stools, blood disorders(wich show as blodd in stool). I
wouldn't give him pred unless it is just supportve care, it suppreses the
inmune system, the last thing any cat needs.

However if he has stomatitis I would.

I've had and have FeLV+s cats.

The one I've now is close to last stages, he's playful and animated but has
a chronic URI, soft stools and bloody diahrrea, thrifty coat, sometimes he
staggers, keeps getting sores, sneezes blood sometimes, that is because
can't coagulate well, eats like a horse and hasn't gained an ounce. Well he
has lately but my other cats would be basketballs if they ate like he does.

Besides he tested twice + on the ELISA and comes from a household where most
cats were FeLV+. A hoarding situation, very sad but at least he has a better
life now tho very limited.

Anyways I'd run a test first, to me I wouldn't jump to conclusions,
stomatitis or other disorder sure could be. Don't put him on pred(steroids
or glucocorticoids.

M

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From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
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Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2011, 5:06 PM

Debbie -

 

There is no way to tell is he has FeLV without a blood test.Was the 11 year
old cat tested for FeLV? Just wondering how he would have gotten it if his
previous test were negative, though it can take 3 months for the bloodwork
to show a positive test.

Prednisone depresses the immune system  should only be used in conjunction
with a specific medical diagnosis.

Are his gums pink? He may be suffering from anemia. Is the stomatitis so bad
he cannot eat? Was the Pred given to him for the Stomatitis?

 

Beth

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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] new member

Boy, am I glad to find this website and group.

I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV.

He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago.  I took him to the vet who was
unable to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits.  I
was unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step.  She
decided, with the information that she had, that Buster had
cholangiohepatitis.

Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant)

After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for
2 years.

Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I
described Buster she said she thought FeLV.  She said if he had a liver
disease, I would see jaundice.  Buster does have a number of clinical signs:
little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat,
occasional eye problems.  No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea.

In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test
which was negative.

I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year
old rescue into the home.  All of my cats (3) are indoor only

I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there
any cats being treated only with prednisolone?  I am not able to take Buster
to the vet due to a number of reasons.  After almost 3 years, he has taken a
big turn for the worse.  Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I
don't think so, this time

Thank you so much

Re: [Felvtalk] new member

[Natalie]

If no blood tests were taken, then there's no way the vet can tell what's
wrong with Buster.
At his age, he could have renal failure and /or hyperthyroidism, treatable.
If it's his thyroid, I just found out that Felimazole can be gotten from
Drs. Foster  Smith very inexpensively; Tapazole and Methimazole are a lot
more expensive anywhere else.  
There's no reason to do an ultrasound if no blood tests were taken to
determine and to rule out anything.
Natalie

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Subject: [Felvtalk] new member

Boy, am I glad to find this website and group.

I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV.

He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago.  I took him to the vet who was
unable to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits.  I
was unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step.  She
decided, with the information that she had, that Buster had
cholangiohepatitis.

Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant)

After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for
2 years.

Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I
described Buster she said she thought FeLV.  She said if he had a liver
disease, I would see jaundice.  Buster does have a number of clinical signs:
little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat,
occasional eye problems.  No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea.

In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test
which was negative.

I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year
old rescue into the home.  All of my cats (3) are indoor only

I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there
any cats being treated only with prednisolone?  I am not able to take Buster
to the vet due to a number of reasons.  After almost 3 years, he has taken a
big turn for the worse.  Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I
don't think so, this time

Thank you so much

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[dlgegg]

Many on this group usseother meds and ntural remdies for felv.  I don't like 
predesone, had it during my cancer and it messes everything up.  My felv's are 
in great shape, so are my negatives.  I will pray for you and Buster and leave 
the advise up to th others who have dealt with this mjore.

 danbin...@netzero.com danbin...@netzero.com wrote: 
 Boy, am I glad to find this website and group.
 
 I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV.
 
 He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago.  I took him to the vet who was 
 unable to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits.  I 
 was unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step.  She 
 decided, with the information that she had, that Buster had 
 cholangiohepatitis.
 
 Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant)
 
 After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for 
 2 years.
 
 Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I 
 described Buster she said she thought FeLV.  She said if he had a liver 
 disease, I would see jaundice.  Buster does have a number of clinical signs:  
 little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat, 
 occasional eye problems.  No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea.
 
 In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test 
 which was negative.
 
 I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year 
 old rescue into the home.  All of my cats (3) are indoor only
 
 I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there 
 any cats being treated only with prednisolone?  I am not able to take Buster 
 to the vet due to a number of reasons.  After almost 3 years, he has taken a 
 big turn for the worse.  Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I 
 don't think so, this time
 
 Thank you so much
 
 debbie   buster 
 
 
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They are both so cute and look quite at home in your house. I'm glad you decided to keep both. I have 2 positives (may have caused the second by mixing too young too soon:( However, I have no regrets because they are best friends! Even though one has suffered from lymphoma (in remission for 15 months) the other has been asymptomatic and both are happy and relatively healthy.Good luck to you and your new family!On Nov 02, 2011, at 06:41 AM, Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu wrote:I meant to write, of course, that I was told that false POSITIVES are  common but false negatives are virtually unheard of. My vet kind of  shrugged when I told him that, though no one can give me a good account  of why Dublin had a negative ELISA on his re-test when he is very  clearly positive. Anyway, he's a lucky, lucky little kitty, as that  false negative landed him in a home.  ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___
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[Lorrie]

On 04-11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Charles, they don't have to look for your house.  They have a gossip line
 that is superior to ours.  I think that once we are adopted by oe, we get
 an invisible tatoo on our forheads SUCKER

You've got that right. Every stray in the area has found our
house, and of course they were all unneutered or pregnant when they
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[dlgegg]

  I try to keep my pride at 7.  That is all I can afford on SS


 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 On 04-11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
  Charles, they don't have to look for your house.  They have a gossip line
  that is superior to ours.  I think that once we are adopted by oe, we get
  an invisible tatoo on our forheads SUCKER
 
 You've got that right. Every stray in the area has found our
 house, and of course they were all unneutered or pregnant when they
 came.  We now have 15 cats at home.  HELP!
 
 
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[Edna Taylor]

We have more than average, but not enough to be newsworthy ;)
 
 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:19:03 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New Member
 
 I try to keep my pride at 7. That is all I can afford on SS
 
 
  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
  On 04-11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
  
   Charles, they don't have to look for your house. They have a gossip line
   that is superior to ours. I think that once we are adopted by oe, we get
   an invisible tatoo on our forheads SUCKER
  
  You've got that right. Every stray in the area has found our
  house, and of course they were all unneutered or pregnant when they
  came. We now have 15 cats at home. HELP!
  
  
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Consider talking with Alley Cat Advocates or another TNR organization  
for help with spaying/neutering.  Some vets will give multiple cat  
discounts.  I supplement the cat food with very on sale whole chicken,  
ground beef etc.  The people quality meat is cheaper per pound than  
cat food.  Same with cheap tuna (my guys, including the inside cats,  
don't like the solid white).  I've found buying good catfood at a farm  
store is sometimes cheaper than at the grocery or K-Mart/Wal-Mart type  
stores.  Additionally, if you establish a relationship with the people  
at a feed store, you may be able to get samples or broken bags.


Just ideas.  Managing these guys can be difficultbut it is worth it.
On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:19 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:


 I try to keep my pride at 7.  That is all I can afford on SS


 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

On 04-11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

Charles, they don't have to look for your house.  They have a  
gossip line
that is superior to ours.  I think that once we are adopted by oe,  
we get

an invisible tatoo on our forheads SUCKER


You've got that right. Every stray in the area has found our
house, and of course they were all unneutered or pregnant when they
came.  We now have 15 cats at home.  HELP!


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I supplement my dry food with an occassional can of mackeral for people.  They 
don't eat so much of the meat as they drink the broth, so I add hot water each 
time I serve up some and this stretches the can to cover several feedings.  
Mackeral is the only fish they really like.  I also get turkey thighs (less 
bones to deal with) and boil them up.  Again they don't go so much for the meat 
as the broth so one package lasts several feedings.  I also use some of the 
meat for turkey noodle soup for me so this stretches it longe
 MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Consider talking with Alley Cat Advocates or another TNR organization  
 for help with spaying/neutering.  Some vets will give multiple cat  
 discounts.  I supplement the cat food with very on sale whole chicken,  
 ground beef etc.  The people quality meat is cheaper per pound than  
 cat food.  Same with cheap tuna (my guys, including the inside cats,  
 don't like the solid white).  I've found buying good catfood at a farm  
 store is sometimes cheaper than at the grocery or K-Mart/Wal-Mart type  
 stores.  Additionally, if you establish a relationship with the people  
 at a feed store, you may be able to get samples or broken bags.
 
 Just ideas.  Managing these guys can be difficultbut it is worth it.
 On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:19 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
   I try to keep my pride at 7.  That is all I can afford on SS
 
 
   Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
  On 04-11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
  Charles, they don't have to look for your house.  They have a  
  gossip line
  that is superior to ours.  I think that once we are adopted by oe,  
  we get
  an invisible tatoo on our forheads SUCKER
 
  You've got that right. Every stray in the area has found our
  house, and of course they were all unneutered or pregnant when they
  came.  We now have 15 cats at home.  HELP!
 
 
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This is a bit late, but more power to you for taking on all these guys.  I have 
7 in my present pride and they are all inside at night and outside for an hour 
or two on nice days when  I am home.  May be some changes due soon if I get a 
job to help pay my bills.  Will be interesting to see how they adjust to my 
being gone all day 5 days runningand they haveto be in all day.  They may get 
on each other's nerves, in particular the 2 kittens (1yr old) who feel it is 
their job toaggrevate the older girls.
 Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Lol, 'cats must look for house'. You are their Dr. House, or at least, you
 take them to him ;-)
 
 Good luck with all the Hello Kitties! You are doing a wonderful thing!
 
 Peggy
 
 2011/4/6 katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com
 
  You go Charles!  Sounds like you jumped in with both feet.
  This is a great place to get advice and just pass along information.
  FeLV + kitties can live good lives, some short, some long, some of
  them with few, if any symptoms. kind of like Typhoid Mary.  I have
  one FeLV + that is about 12 - 13 years old.  Don't know if she was
  always pos but has been for at least 5 years now and mixes
  inside/outside with all 8 other kitties and no problems.  I vaccinate
  the negatives and deal with the positive as necessary - so far little
  needed thank goodness.
  Bless you and all who understand that humans are the reason there are
  so many kitties and dogs who need and deserve our help - and
  understanding that try to help.
 
  kat
 
 
  On 4/3/11, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
   Charles
   Ya-hoo!  You have your hands full!  Plenty of folks on here have great
   experience and can help guide you.
   I'm just good for moral support.
   Thanks for taking care of these little tigers...a job rewarded by their
   health and happiness.
   Carry on!
   ~Bonnie
   - Original Message -
   From: Charles J Driscoll se...@optonline.net
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   Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:14 AM
   Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member
  
  
  I am not sure how this board works, but this is my story. Can I answer on
  the board or do I have to send a e-mail each time.
  
   Over last summer, there was an abandoned foreclosure house next door to
   me. Well, in the hole of the fence, these 2 little faces kept popping
   their heads threw the hole. Turns out they were kittens born in March
  2010
  
   from a feral mother cat. I feed them over the summer and finally made
   friends with the kittens. I bought a small dog house they could eat
   without getting soaked in the rain, snow etc. I finally TRN them in
  Sept.
   One is a healthy Gray Tiger one which I call Hello. The other is a
  small
  
   black and white which I call Hello Kitty. they were both males. The
   black and white seemed to eat alot less, very skiddish, not as friendly.
   The tiger one is a big mouth meow, meow, hey here I am. They are so
   bonded, so close. The tiger one seems to mother the Hello Kitty on all
   terms, watching out for him, washing him.
  
   Well, over this bad snow, cold winter the black and white came down
  sick,
   I grabbed him FAST and set up a cage in the house. Took him to the vet,
  he
  
   was on antibodics. Turns out he is Positive with FeLV. Since I never
  took
   care of ferals in my life, this is all new to me and a bit overwhelming.
   So we now have the black and white kitten (11 months old now) in the
  house
  
   since Feb 14th and on:
  
   Prednisolone (1 pill a day)
   Chinese Herbs Immune enhancer (2 caps a day)
   EFA vitamin and mineral supplement (1/4 teaspoon mixed with food)
   Fellovite II (1/4 teaspoon or lick right from finger, which he does)
  
   I also have the tiger one in the house and he was vaccinated from the
   FeLV. so hopefully it  works, cause I can not separate them at  all.
  
   I am also feeding other ferals outside. (The cats must look for
   houseLOL)
  
   Steroid: Big male black and white, he looks like his ear is tipped
   Bobcat: pure black one shows up in the dark, in and out. Has a bunny
   rabbit tail
   V: gray male tiger, who's been missing since Long Island snow storm this
   Feb
   Red: Male just showed up the past 2 weeks, Friendly, but not neurterd
  
   The Mama CAT: caught her in Oct and TNR. She is doing well, and healthy
   and lives and eats by a women down the block.
  
   Any suggestion would be so helpful!!
   thank you
   reneeny
  
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[dlgegg]

Charles, they don't have to look for your house.  They have a gossip line that 
is superior to ours.  I think that once we are adopted by oe, we get an 
invisible tatoo on our forheads SUCKER
 katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote: 
 You go Charles!  Sounds like you jumped in with both feet.
 This is a great place to get advice and just pass along information.
 FeLV + kitties can live good lives, some short, some long, some of
 them with few, if any symptoms. kind of like Typhoid Mary.  I have
 one FeLV + that is about 12 - 13 years old.  Don't know if she was
 always pos but has been for at least 5 years now and mixes
 inside/outside with all 8 other kitties and no problems.  I vaccinate
 the negatives and deal with the positive as necessary - so far little
 needed thank goodness.
 Bless you and all who understand that humans are the reason there are
 so many kitties and dogs who need and deserve our help - and
 understanding that try to help.
 
 kat
 
 
 On 4/3/11, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
  Charles
  Ya-hoo!  You have your hands full!  Plenty of folks on here have great
  experience and can help guide you.
  I'm just good for moral support.
  Thanks for taking care of these little tigers...a job rewarded by their
  health and happiness.
  Carry on!
  ~Bonnie
  - Original Message -
  From: Charles J Driscoll se...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:14 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member
 
 
 I am not sure how this board works, but this is my story. Can I answer on
 the board or do I have to send a e-mail each time.
 
  Over last summer, there was an abandoned foreclosure house next door to
  me. Well, in the hole of the fence, these 2 little faces kept popping
  their heads threw the hole. Turns out they were kittens born in March 2010
 
  from a feral mother cat. I feed them over the summer and finally made
  friends with the kittens. I bought a small dog house they could eat
  without getting soaked in the rain, snow etc. I finally TRN them in Sept.
  One is a healthy Gray Tiger one which I call Hello. The other is a small
 
  black and white which I call Hello Kitty. they were both males. The
  black and white seemed to eat alot less, very skiddish, not as friendly.
  The tiger one is a big mouth meow, meow, hey here I am. They are so
  bonded, so close. The tiger one seems to mother the Hello Kitty on all
  terms, watching out for him, washing him.
 
  Well, over this bad snow, cold winter the black and white came down sick,
  I grabbed him FAST and set up a cage in the house. Took him to the vet, he
 
  was on antibodics. Turns out he is Positive with FeLV. Since I never took
  care of ferals in my life, this is all new to me and a bit overwhelming.
  So we now have the black and white kitten (11 months old now) in the house
 
  since Feb 14th and on:
 
  Prednisolone (1 pill a day)
  Chinese Herbs Immune enhancer (2 caps a day)
  EFA vitamin and mineral supplement (1/4 teaspoon mixed with food)
  Fellovite II (1/4 teaspoon or lick right from finger, which he does)
 
  I also have the tiger one in the house and he was vaccinated from the
  FeLV. so hopefully it  works, cause I can not separate them at  all.
 
  I am also feeding other ferals outside. (The cats must look for
  houseLOL)
 
  Steroid: Big male black and white, he looks like his ear is tipped
  Bobcat: pure black one shows up in the dark, in and out. Has a bunny
  rabbit tail
  V: gray male tiger, who's been missing since Long Island snow storm this
  Feb
  Red: Male just showed up the past 2 weeks, Friendly, but not neurterd
 
  The Mama CAT: caught her in Oct and TNR. She is doing well, and healthy
  and lives and eats by a women down the block.
 
  Any suggestion would be so helpful!!
  thank you
  reneeny
 
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[katskat1]

You go Charles!  Sounds like you jumped in with both feet.
This is a great place to get advice and just pass along information.
FeLV + kitties can live good lives, some short, some long, some of
them with few, if any symptoms. kind of like Typhoid Mary.  I have
one FeLV + that is about 12 - 13 years old.  Don't know if she was
always pos but has been for at least 5 years now and mixes
inside/outside with all 8 other kitties and no problems.  I vaccinate
the negatives and deal with the positive as necessary - so far little
needed thank goodness.
Bless you and all who understand that humans are the reason there are
so many kitties and dogs who need and deserve our help - and
understanding that try to help.

kat


On 4/3/11, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
 Charles
 Ya-hoo!  You have your hands full!  Plenty of folks on here have great
 experience and can help guide you.
 I'm just good for moral support.
 Thanks for taking care of these little tigers...a job rewarded by their
 health and happiness.
 Carry on!
 ~Bonnie
 - Original Message -
 From: Charles J Driscoll se...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:14 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member


I am not sure how this board works, but this is my story. Can I answer on
the board or do I have to send a e-mail each time.

 Over last summer, there was an abandoned foreclosure house next door to
 me. Well, in the hole of the fence, these 2 little faces kept popping
 their heads threw the hole. Turns out they were kittens born in March 2010

 from a feral mother cat. I feed them over the summer and finally made
 friends with the kittens. I bought a small dog house they could eat
 without getting soaked in the rain, snow etc. I finally TRN them in Sept.
 One is a healthy Gray Tiger one which I call Hello. The other is a small

 black and white which I call Hello Kitty. they were both males. The
 black and white seemed to eat alot less, very skiddish, not as friendly.
 The tiger one is a big mouth meow, meow, hey here I am. They are so
 bonded, so close. The tiger one seems to mother the Hello Kitty on all
 terms, watching out for him, washing him.

 Well, over this bad snow, cold winter the black and white came down sick,
 I grabbed him FAST and set up a cage in the house. Took him to the vet, he

 was on antibodics. Turns out he is Positive with FeLV. Since I never took
 care of ferals in my life, this is all new to me and a bit overwhelming.
 So we now have the black and white kitten (11 months old now) in the house

 since Feb 14th and on:

 Prednisolone (1 pill a day)
 Chinese Herbs Immune enhancer (2 caps a day)
 EFA vitamin and mineral supplement (1/4 teaspoon mixed with food)
 Fellovite II (1/4 teaspoon or lick right from finger, which he does)

 I also have the tiger one in the house and he was vaccinated from the
 FeLV. so hopefully it  works, cause I can not separate them at  all.

 I am also feeding other ferals outside. (The cats must look for
 houseLOL)

 Steroid: Big male black and white, he looks like his ear is tipped
 Bobcat: pure black one shows up in the dark, in and out. Has a bunny
 rabbit tail
 V: gray male tiger, who's been missing since Long Island snow storm this
 Feb
 Red: Male just showed up the past 2 weeks, Friendly, but not neurterd

 The Mama CAT: caught her in Oct and TNR. She is doing well, and healthy
 and lives and eats by a women down the block.

 Any suggestion would be so helpful!!
 thank you
 reneeny

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[Peggy Verdonck]

Lol, 'cats must look for house'. You are their Dr. House, or at least, you
take them to him ;-)

Good luck with all the Hello Kitties! You are doing a wonderful thing!

Peggy

2011/4/6 katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com

 You go Charles!  Sounds like you jumped in with both feet.
 This is a great place to get advice and just pass along information.
 FeLV + kitties can live good lives, some short, some long, some of
 them with few, if any symptoms. kind of like Typhoid Mary.  I have
 one FeLV + that is about 12 - 13 years old.  Don't know if she was
 always pos but has been for at least 5 years now and mixes
 inside/outside with all 8 other kitties and no problems.  I vaccinate
 the negatives and deal with the positive as necessary - so far little
 needed thank goodness.
 Bless you and all who understand that humans are the reason there are
 so many kitties and dogs who need and deserve our help - and
 understanding that try to help.

 kat


 On 4/3/11, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
  Charles
  Ya-hoo!  You have your hands full!  Plenty of folks on here have great
  experience and can help guide you.
  I'm just good for moral support.
  Thanks for taking care of these little tigers...a job rewarded by their
  health and happiness.
  Carry on!
  ~Bonnie
  - Original Message -
  From: Charles J Driscoll se...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:14 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member
 
 
 I am not sure how this board works, but this is my story. Can I answer on
 the board or do I have to send a e-mail each time.
 
  Over last summer, there was an abandoned foreclosure house next door to
  me. Well, in the hole of the fence, these 2 little faces kept popping
  their heads threw the hole. Turns out they were kittens born in March
 2010
 
  from a feral mother cat. I feed them over the summer and finally made
  friends with the kittens. I bought a small dog house they could eat
  without getting soaked in the rain, snow etc. I finally TRN them in
 Sept.
  One is a healthy Gray Tiger one which I call Hello. The other is a
 small
 
  black and white which I call Hello Kitty. they were both males. The
  black and white seemed to eat alot less, very skiddish, not as friendly.
  The tiger one is a big mouth meow, meow, hey here I am. They are so
  bonded, so close. The tiger one seems to mother the Hello Kitty on all
  terms, watching out for him, washing him.
 
  Well, over this bad snow, cold winter the black and white came down
 sick,
  I grabbed him FAST and set up a cage in the house. Took him to the vet,
 he
 
  was on antibodics. Turns out he is Positive with FeLV. Since I never
 took
  care of ferals in my life, this is all new to me and a bit overwhelming.
  So we now have the black and white kitten (11 months old now) in the
 house
 
  since Feb 14th and on:
 
  Prednisolone (1 pill a day)
  Chinese Herbs Immune enhancer (2 caps a day)
  EFA vitamin and mineral supplement (1/4 teaspoon mixed with food)
  Fellovite II (1/4 teaspoon or lick right from finger, which he does)
 
  I also have the tiger one in the house and he was vaccinated from the
  FeLV. so hopefully it  works, cause I can not separate them at  all.
 
  I am also feeding other ferals outside. (The cats must look for
  houseLOL)
 
  Steroid: Big male black and white, he looks like his ear is tipped
  Bobcat: pure black one shows up in the dark, in and out. Has a bunny
  rabbit tail
  V: gray male tiger, who's been missing since Long Island snow storm this
  Feb
  Red: Male just showed up the past 2 weeks, Friendly, but not neurterd
 
  The Mama CAT: caught her in Oct and TNR. She is doing well, and healthy
  and lives and eats by a women down the block.
 
  Any suggestion would be so helpful!!
  thank you
  reneeny
 
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[Christiane Biagi]

When you post or  answer a post on the board, everyone gets it--so we've all
gotten your post.

Good for you for taking in these little guys!  And for TNR as many of the
others as you can.  I have 1 pos  3 neg who have all lived together for
years w. no problem.  I've also taken in two kittens just before our big
snow storm  luckily, they are neg.  Neg cats are vaccinated  I've never
had come pos. 

My Tucson is 13 years old, 17 lbs  doing fine.  But I did lose Romeo, a
10+former stray from lymphoma last year.  Folks on this board have had a
whole lot more experience than me but it seems the critical time is
kittenhood  early adolescence.  How is Mr. Kitty doing?  The pos are s
susceptible to any sort of infection, URI, UTI, etc.  I tend to take Tucson
in to the vet if she's looking a little pt eaked (usually, for her, means
she won't eat!).

Some folks give Interferon as prev but I never have.  Tucson is a big
cuddler but can be difficult to medicate  my Romeo would freak out if you
ever had to hold him down.  I feed them Wellness canned  Blue Buffalo lite
dry (and various treats-LOL).  

How are Hello  Mr. Kitty enjoying indoor life!  Bet they're thrilled to be
in from the cold

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Charles J Driscoll
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 2:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member

I am not sure how this board works, but this is my story. Can I answer on
the board or do I have to send a e-mail each time.

Over last summer, there was an abandoned foreclosure house next door to me.
Well, in the hole of the fence, these 2 little faces kept popping their
heads threw the hole. Turns out they were kittens born in March
2010 from a feral mother cat. I feed them over the summer and finally made
friends with the kittens. I bought a small dog house they could eat without
getting soaked in the rain, snow etc. I finally TRN them in Sept. One is a
healthy Gray Tiger one which I call Hello. The other is a small black and
white which I call Hello Kitty. they were both males. The black and white
seemed to eat alot less, very skiddish, not as friendly. The tiger one is a
big mouth meow, meow, hey here I am. 
They are so bonded, so close. The tiger one seems to mother the Hello Kitty
on all terms, watching out for him, washing him.

Well, over this bad snow, cold winter the black and white came down sick, I
grabbed him FAST and set up a cage in the house. Took him to the vet, he was
on antibodics. Turns out he is Positive with FeLV. Since I never took care
of ferals in my life, this is all new to me and a bit overwhelming. So we
now have the black and white kitten (11 months old
now) in the house since Feb 14th and on:

Prednisolone (1 pill a day)
Chinese Herbs Immune enhancer (2 caps a day) EFA vitamin and mineral
supplement (1/4 teaspoon mixed with food) Fellovite II (1/4 teaspoon or lick
right from finger, which he does)

I also have the tiger one in the house and he was vaccinated from the FeLV.
so hopefully it  works, cause I can not separate them at  all.

I am also feeding other ferals outside. (The cats must look for
houseLOL)

Steroid: Big male black and white, he looks like his ear is tipped
Bobcat: pure black one shows up in the dark, in and out. Has a bunny rabbit
tail
V: gray male tiger, who's been missing since Long Island snow storm this Feb
Red: Male just showed up the past 2 weeks, Friendly, but not neurterd

The Mama CAT: caught her in Oct and TNR. She is doing well, and healthy and
lives and eats by a women down the block.

Any suggestion would be so helpful!!
thank you
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[MaiMaiPG]

Copper came to me from the pine thicket 2 weeks before Thomas and  
helped Thomas decide to be a cared for kitten.  I was advised to keep  
them separated for 6 + weeks in case one was sick.  Well, that didn't  
fly at all.  They came from the same place and were almost the same  
age and ..well, I decided to deal with whatever came up and let  
them be together.  They were separated for about 4 hours once and that  
won't happen again.  I even make sure they are in the same cage if I  
have to leave them at the vets'---neuter, dental.  All of this is to  
say that you are right in not separating them.  The stress would  
probably kill both of them.  Thomas locked himself in the Jeep once  
and Copper was hollering his head off because he couldn't get to his  
brother.  He was far more upset than Thomas.


MHO:  reduce stress as much as you cantry Rescue Remedy and  
Feliway.  Even though they are together, there has been a major life- 
style change.   Feed the highest quality food that you can.  Listen to  
this group re supplements.  I like colostrum for my ferals. I get it  
at the local feed store.  Dixie (FeLV+) liked--almost craved high  
vitamin C veggies finely chopped and mixed with various foods I gave  
her and I know one holistic vet who highly recommends vitamin C  
supplements.  On that note, I have a wonderful holistic vet and know  
another (Louisville, KY area but do phone consultations).  I take any  
critter who comes into my life as a house guest to Betty Bosewell.   
She helped me, along with the wonderful vets at Middletown Animal  
Clinic, give Dixie the absolutely best life a little cat could have  
and she left this life very easy compared to so many I hear about.   
And she left without the help of the vets she truly hated I  
credit Betty and the MAC vets with helping two very tiny feral kittens  
grow into the wonderful cats they are todaythey are napping in  
their chair as I type.  Keeping them together is the right thing.


Bless you for caring and loving these darlings.  You will never regret  
it.



On Apr 3, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Charles J Driscoll wrote:

I am not sure how this board works, but this is my story. Can I  
answer on the board or do I have to send a e-mail each time.


Over last summer, there was an abandoned foreclosure house next door  
to me. Well, in the hole of the fence, these 2 little faces kept  
popping their heads threw the hole. Turns out they were kittens born  
in March 2010 from a feral mother cat. I feed them over the summer  
and finally made friends with the kittens. I bought a small dog  
house they could eat without getting soaked in the rain, snow etc. I  
finally TRN them in Sept. One is a healthy Gray Tiger one which I  
call Hello. The other is a small black and white which I call  
Hello Kitty. they were both males. The black and white seemed to  
eat alot less, very skiddish, not as friendly. The tiger one is a  
big mouth meow, meow, hey here I am. They are so bonded, so close.  
The tiger one seems to mother the Hello Kitty on all terms, watching  
out for him, washing him.


Well, over this bad snow, cold winter the black and white came down  
sick, I grabbed him FAST and set up a cage in the house. Took him to  
the vet, he was on antibodics. Turns out he is Positive with FeLV.  
Since I never took care of ferals in my life, this is all new to me  
and a bit overwhelming. So we now have the black and white kitten  
(11 months old now) in the house since Feb 14th and on:


Prednisolone (1 pill a day)
Chinese Herbs Immune enhancer (2 caps a day)
EFA vitamin and mineral supplement (1/4 teaspoon mixed with food)
Fellovite II (1/4 teaspoon or lick right from finger, which he does)

I also have the tiger one in the house and he was vaccinated from  
the  FeLV. so hopefully it  works, cause I can not separate them at   
all.


I am also feeding other ferals outside. (The cats must look for  
houseLOL)


Steroid: Big male black and white, he looks like his ear is tipped
Bobcat: pure black one shows up in the dark, in and out. Has a bunny  
rabbit tail
V: gray male tiger, who's been missing since Long Island snow storm  
this Feb

Red: Male just showed up the past 2 weeks, Friendly, but not neurterd

The Mama CAT: caught her in Oct and TNR. She is doing well, and  
healthy and lives and eats by a women down the block.


Any suggestion would be so helpful!!
thank you
reneeny

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Re: [Felvtalk] New Member

[Bonnie Hogue]

Charles
Ya-hoo!  You have your hands full!  Plenty of folks on here have great 
experience and can help guide you.

I'm just good for moral support.
Thanks for taking care of these little tigers...a job rewarded by their 
health and happiness.

Carry on!
~Bonnie
- Original Message - 
From: Charles J Driscoll se...@optonline.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:14 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member


I am not sure how this board works, but this is my story. Can I answer on 
the board or do I have to send a e-mail each time.


Over last summer, there was an abandoned foreclosure house next door to 
me. Well, in the hole of the fence, these 2 little faces kept popping 
their heads threw the hole. Turns out they were kittens born in March 2010 
from a feral mother cat. I feed them over the summer and finally made 
friends with the kittens. I bought a small dog house they could eat 
without getting soaked in the rain, snow etc. I finally TRN them in Sept. 
One is a healthy Gray Tiger one which I call Hello. The other is a small 
black and white which I call Hello Kitty. they were both males. The 
black and white seemed to eat alot less, very skiddish, not as friendly. 
The tiger one is a big mouth meow, meow, hey here I am. They are so 
bonded, so close. The tiger one seems to mother the Hello Kitty on all 
terms, watching out for him, washing him.


Well, over this bad snow, cold winter the black and white came down sick, 
I grabbed him FAST and set up a cage in the house. Took him to the vet, he 
was on antibodics. Turns out he is Positive with FeLV. Since I never took 
care of ferals in my life, this is all new to me and a bit overwhelming. 
So we now have the black and white kitten (11 months old now) in the house 
since Feb 14th and on:


Prednisolone (1 pill a day)
Chinese Herbs Immune enhancer (2 caps a day)
EFA vitamin and mineral supplement (1/4 teaspoon mixed with food)
Fellovite II (1/4 teaspoon or lick right from finger, which he does)

I also have the tiger one in the house and he was vaccinated from the 
FeLV. so hopefully it  works, cause I can not separate them at  all.


I am also feeding other ferals outside. (The cats must look for 
houseLOL)


Steroid: Big male black and white, he looks like his ear is tipped
Bobcat: pure black one shows up in the dark, in and out. Has a bunny 
rabbit tail
V: gray male tiger, who's been missing since Long Island snow storm this 
Feb

Red: Male just showed up the past 2 weeks, Friendly, but not neurterd

The Mama CAT: caught her in Oct and TNR. She is doing well, and healthy 
and lives and eats by a women down the block.


Any suggestion would be so helpful!!
thank you
reneeny

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Re: [Felvtalk] New member, advice needed please!

[catatonya]

It sounds like you're doing everything you can.  My first positive went through 
2 very bad periods and recovered to live to 7 or 8 years old.   I hope Tora 
pulls through.
  take care,
  tonya

amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi , my kitten ' 'Tora' aged about 5 months was diagnosed with FeLV 
yesterday, he was sick since last friday which I mistaked for food poisoning! 
That time he had antibiotics and interferon injection and sub fluids which 
helped him alot, he had swollen lypm node on one side of throat which got much 
better, but on Tuesday he started getting ill again, quiet ect, so yesterday we 
tested for FeLV and he come out full possitive. I live in Japan and they 
suggested interefon injections for the next five days and sub fluids with 
vitamins and antibiotics, since yesterday he hasn`t been eating, has been 
dribbling sometimes and looks like he has inflamation of the intestines, when 
we touch him, he cries in pain. My husband is an accupunturist and we are doing 
that too and I asking the advice of a homeopath too. Is there anything else 
that I can try? Will he have a chance to pull through? It`s not the first time 
I`ve had FeLV possitive cats, I had two before, one lived a long normal
 life and the other pulled through the first bout of sickness like Tora, maybe 
not as bad, but I remember she didn`t eat for days too! But I lost her to 
Lymphoma cancer a year later. Any advice help, information would be truely 
appreciated!! hugs and purrs Amanda and Tora.
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[Sharyl]

Amanda, my FeLV+ kitties haven't crashed yet so I don't know the odds of 
pulling through.  My Sissy did have swollen lymph nodes that improved after a 
round of a/b,  I do know a sick kitty needs fluids and food.   You can blend 
most pate style canned foods with a little liquid until it is the consistency 
of a thick milk shake and syringe feed Tora.  There is a Yahoo Assist Feeding 
group with more info.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/
You could also try meat baby food (no onions or garlic) if that is available in 
Japan.  Until you are able to get a handle on his problems it is important to 
get food into him.  Sick kitties actually need more calories than healthy 
kitties.
 
There are meds for pain like buprenorphine (Buprenex) that are very effective.  
Please do not use Metacam (meloxicam) which can lead to kidney failure in some 
cats, 
Hugs to Tora
Sharyl

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From: amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Felvtalk] New member, advice needed please!
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 6:27 AM

Hi , my kitten ' 'Tora' aged about 5 months was diagnosed with FeLV
yesterday, he was sick since last friday which I mistaked for food poisoning!
That time he had antibiotics and interferon injection and sub fluids which
helped him alot, he had swollen lypm node on one side of throat which got much
better, but on Tuesday he started getting ill again, quiet ect, so yesterday we
tested for FeLV and he come out full possitive. I live in Japan and they
suggested interefon injections for the next five days and sub fluids with
vitamins and antibiotics, since yesterday he hasn`t been eating, has been
dribbling sometimes and looks like he has inflamation of the intestines, when we
touch him, he cries in pain.  My husband is an accupunturist and we are doing
that too and I asking the advice of a homeopath too. Is there anything else that
I can try? Will he have a chance to pull through?  It`s not the first time I`ve
had FeLV possitive cats, I had two before, one lived a long normal life and the
other pulled through the first bout of sickness like Tora, maybe not as bad, but
I remember she didn`t eat for days too! But I lost her to Lymphoma cancer a year
later.  Any advice help, information would be truely appreciated!! hugs and
purrs Amanda and Tora.
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[dlgegg]

amanda,  since you are using vets, acupuncture and holistic, that is about all 
we can do.  try praying.  God can work miracles if that is in His plan.  at 
least, He can give you the strength to get thru this.  dorlis
 amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hi , my kitten ' 'Tora' aged about 5 months was diagnosed with FeLV 
 yesterday, he was sick since last friday which I mistaked for food poisoning! 
 That time he had antibiotics and interferon injection and sub fluids which 
 helped him alot, he had swollen lypm node on one side of throat which got 
 much better, but on Tuesday he started getting ill again, quiet ect, so 
 yesterday we tested for FeLV and he come out full possitive. I live in Japan 
 and they suggested interefon injections for the next five days and sub fluids 
 with vitamins and antibiotics, since yesterday he hasn`t been eating, has 
 been dribbling sometimes and looks like he has inflamation of the intestines, 
 when we touch him, he cries in pain.  My husband is an accupunturist and we 
 are doing that too and I asking the advice of a homeopath too. Is there 
 anything else that I can try? Will he have a chance to pull through?  It`s 
 not the first time I`ve had FeLV possitive cats, I had two before, one lived 
 a long normal life and the other pulled through the first bout of sickness 
 like Tora, maybe not as bad, but I remember she didn`t eat for days too! But 
 I lost her to Lymphoma cancer a year later.  Any advice help, information 
 would be truely appreciated!! hugs and purrs Amanda and Tora.
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[Marylyn]

Of course he has a chance.  Please remember none of us are guaranteed  
any specific time on this earth.  All we can hope/pray for is to be  
cared for and loved...Tora has that.  Please do not focus on  
what may happen but care for Tora and enjoy his love.  I do know what  
I am talking about.  I learned from the Royal Princess Kitty Katt and  
my Junior Partner, Dixie Louise Doodle Katt.  The lessons are hard but  
very important.  You are doing wonderfully.  Tora is cared for and  
knows lovewhat more can any of us ask for?

Blessings to you all and, most of all, peace.
On Oct 24, 2008, at 8:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 amanda,  since you are using vets, acupuncture and holistic, that is  
 about all we can do.  try praying.  God can work miracles if that is  
 in His plan.  at least, He can give you the strength to get thru  
 this.  dorlis
  amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi , my kitten ' 'Tora' aged about 5 months was diagnosed with FeLV  
 yesterday, he was sick since last friday which I mistaked for food  
 poisoning! That time he had antibiotics and interferon injection  
 and sub fluids which helped him alot, he had swollen lypm node on  
 one side of throat which got much better, but on Tuesday he started  
 getting ill again, quiet ect, so yesterday we tested for FeLV and  
 he come out full possitive. I live in Japan and they suggested  
 interefon injections for the next five days and sub fluids with  
 vitamins and antibiotics, since yesterday he hasn`t been eating,  
 has been dribbling sometimes and looks like he has inflamation of  
 the intestines, when we touch him, he cries in pain.  My husband is  
 an accupunturist and we are doing that too and I asking the advice  
 of a homeopath too. Is there anything else that I can try? Will he  
 have a chance to pull through?  It`s not the first time I`ve had  
 FeLV possitive cats, I had two before, one lived a long normal life  
 and the other pulled through the first bout of sickness like Tora,  
 maybe not as bad, but I remember she didn`t eat for days too! But I  
 lost her to Lymphoma cancer a year later.  Any advice help,  
 information would be truely appreciated!! hugs and purrs Amanda and  
 Tora.
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[catatonya]

I disagree.  I think the the vaccine is more effective than doctors give it 
credit for.  I have had so many negative (vaccinated) cats exposed to 
positives, and have never had it transferred to one of them.
  tonya

Sabrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Lorrie,
Don't give up hope! I just posted a couple of days ago about the two kitties
I rescued who were positive just were retested and are now negative!! Of
course I don't know if what I did had anything to do with changing their
status, but if you are interested in the diet I fed them and the supplements
I gave them, contact me offlist.

Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy even
now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat clinic for a
number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of leukemia she saw, most of
the ones who died had been vaccinated for the disease.

Sabrina
www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com
www.LovingGraceRescue.org
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[Rosenfeldt, Diane]

Hi, Lorrie --

Glad you found this group.  You'll get lots of great advice here.

Firstly, don't beat yourself up too much -- it's too bad about the
kitties you put to sleep, but nobody knew much about FeLV back then, it
would have been universally considered to be a death sentence anyway.
Now, there is so much hope for your positive kittens!

Admittedly, your vet was probably trying to let you know the worst of
what you're facing, but if all she can offer is grimness, you might want
to consider finding another vet, at least for these babies.  The fact
that she didn't suggest euthanasia is a point in her favor, but the
kittens would be better served by someone on the cutting edge of FeLV.
Or, if she's willing to work with you, you can print off stuff from the
files on the felineleukemia.org website and help her expand her
knowledge base. ;-)

I assume the kittens are not showing signs of disease.  If they aren't,
depending on their age, they may yet shake off the virus.  But if they
don't, there are still ways to keep them asymptomatic.  FeLV *isn't* an
automatic death sentence these days.  You'll get lots of advice here on
diet and supplements, and (along with some heartache) some nice success
stories.

Diane R.

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Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New member

Hello Everyone,

I'm a new member to the FelV group, but not new to cat rescue 
and TNR, which I've been doing for a long time.

For years I didn't test for FelV, because back in the 1980's I tested
all of my cats for it, and two were positive, so I put had them put
down to protect my other cats.  I've felt horribly guilty ever
since, and because of this I quit testing.

I started testing again about 4 years ago when I began taking care 
of a feral colony I discovered in our small town of Terra Alta, WV.
There were always kittens I couldn't find homes for, and if I kept
them, or kept any strays that were dumped at our house I felt I should
have them tested.. None of them were ever positive. I guess I was
just lucky, but now my luck has run out. Several kittens in a litter
I rescued have tested positive for FelV.

I intend to learn everything I can about FelV, and meanwhile I'll
vaccinate my negative cats with the FelV vaccine. In the 80's it
wasn't too effective, so I hope it's improved I'd appreciate 
input on the efficacy of the vaccine.

I understand FelV is contagious, but not highly contagious. From what
I've read it is apparently spread through blood (bites) food dishes,
water bowls and mutual grooming.  The virus apparently doesn't live
long outside the cat's body, but in even a few hours other cats could
be infected.  The vet didn't tell me to euthanize the positive
kittens, but she did give me a grim outlook :-(

I'd appreciate hearing from any of you in regard to this.

Lorrie in Terra Alta, WV


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[Sabrina]

Hi Lorrie,
Don't give up hope! I just posted a couple of days ago about the two kitties
I rescued who were positive just were retested and are now negative!! Of
course I don't know if what I did had anything to do with changing their
status, but if you are interested in the diet I fed them and the supplements
I gave them, contact me offlist.

Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy even
now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat clinic for a
number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of leukemia she saw, most of
the ones who died had been vaccinated for the disease.

Sabrina
www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com
www.LovingGraceRescue.org
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[gary]

Interesting, everything I read says the efficacy of at least 3 of the 
current vaccines is 85-90%, plus most adult cats are pretty immune 
naturally.  If the majority of the cases that died had been vaccinated I 
would have to wonder if one of several possibilities might be true; they 
were already positive when vaccinated; the vaccine protocol wasn't properly 
followed; or their tests weren't properly done.

I would also think that a vet clinic that saw 2000 cases over even a 10 year 
period was one very busy clinic, it has only been a very recent part of 
normal testing and still is not for many clinics.

I have three positive cats that are kept in their own area but I still 
vaccinate all of my negatives even though I think the chance of infection 
from my positives is pretty low.

Gary

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New member


 Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy even
 now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat clinic for a
 number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of leukemia she saw, most 
 of
 the ones who died had been vaccinated for the disease.

 Sabrina


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[Marylyn]

Jennifer,

I just wanted you to know that  Dixie sent me a second little one from  
the same pine thicket and surrounded by the same hawks, fox, dogs,  
etc.  Apparently she really thought she had EVERYTHINGcertainly  
enough to loan to two babies who needed homes.
On Jul 30, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Jennifer wrote:

 That's such a touching story...brought tears to my eyes.  What is  
 your new kitty's name?  Hopefully she's with you for a very long  
 time :)

  Jennifer
 ~ loving mama to ~
   Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)
   Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)
   Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)

 On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:59 PM, Marylyn wrote:

 Dixie came to me as a grown throw away who had been on her own for  
 a long time.  She found her way to my Mom's where she hung out with  
 the ferals who came for food, water and shelter.  For three years  
 and 12 days she had everything a little cat could want.  She became  
 the owner of a farm in rural Ky with a large sunroom, window sills,  
 deer, turkey and windows everywhere; Christmas trees that stayed up  
 for months just because she liked to sleep under them; a large bed  
 with pillows and dolls...everything a little cat could want,  
 even things she didn't know about when she came into my life.   She  
 had the best regular and holist medical care available from the day  
 I found out that she was FeLV+ and was so wonderfully healthy that  
 I believed she had beaten it.  She remained healthy until a couple  
 of days before she left this world.   When she left she was beside  
 me, where she was always the safest, and in a Jeep that had taken  
 her on many great adventures (she loved to travel between the farm  
 and a home in Louisville).  I have no regrets at all about having  
 this wonderful little girl in my life.  She taught me so much.   
 Now, a month after she left,  she has sent me a tiny kitten from  
 the same pine thicket she came from.  Apparently she thought this  
 little one, who was alone just as she had been,  should have  
 everything too.   There are no certainities in life.  It sounds  
 like you have a good grasp on the situation.  This group has people  
 knowledgeable in supplements that can help strengthen all your  
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[catatonya]

Welcome to the list.  I hope your original cats test negative, but it sounds 
like Ash is in good shape.  If he's made it over a year his chances of getting 
sick are much less!
  tonya

Jennifer Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi everyone.  My name is Jennifer and I live in New Jersey.  My one 
year old male kitty, Ash, was just diagnosed with FeLV yesterday.  I also have 
two other cats, Morrison and Isobel, and they've been living with Ash for a 
year (I've had him since birth).  He's blind in one eye and has developmental 
problems in his back area, but other than the obvious (his illness), he's a 
very happy, content, sweet and playful boy!  Very talkative as well, especially 
in the morning!  He's all black with tiny white hairs throughout his coat that 
you need to really look to see.  He eats like a pig and right now, seems 
healthy.  He's getting fixed in a month (that's the soonest my vet could get 
him in) and my other two cats are being tested for FeLV in two weeks and if 
they test negative (which I really hope is the case), they're getting 
vaccinated.  My oldest, Morrison, was supposedly vaccinated two years ago, but 
they have no record of it at my vet's office, though they told me
 he was vaccinated when I took him for his shots two years ago.  

I am looking forward to chatting with you all and I really wish all the best 
for you and your kitties!

PS - can we share pictures of our cats on here?

- Jennifer (and Ash too!)

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[MaryChristine]

and by this time, the other two have been well exposed, and it''s sort of a
moot point--the odds are very high that they'll be negative, and if not,
will it make a huge difference, other than in the way you treat them
medically? will you love them differently? i doubt that you will--it'll just
give you information on what things to look for.

FeLV+ cats are just cats, until and if the virus is activated. good food,
good love, as stressfree an environment as possible--these are the things we
know of that can help keep that from happening. look into the supplements
that are well researched and documented, FeLVs get sick just as normal cats
do, and get treated and get well, without it always having to have to be
related to the FeLV--just breathe, and learn, and enjoy every minute you
have with all of them: no living thing comes with a guarantee, after all.

MC

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:17 AM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Welcome to the list.  I hope your original cats test negative, but it
 sounds like Ash is in good shape.  If he's made it over a year his chances
 of getting sick are much less!
 tonya


 *Jennifer Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

   Hi everyone.  My name is Jennifer and I live in New Jersey.  My one year
 old male kitty, Ash, was just diagnosed with FeLV yesterday.  I also have
 two other cats, Morrison and Isobel, and they've been living with Ash for a
 year (I've had him since birth).  He's blind in one eye and has
 developmental problems in his back area, but other than the obvious (his
 illness), he's a very happy, content, sweet and playful boy!  Very talkative
 as well, especially in the morning!  He's all black with tiny white hairs
 throughout his coat that you need to really look to see.  He eats like a pig
 and right now, seems healthy.  He's getting fixed in a month (that's the
 soonest my vet could get him in) and my other two cats are being tested for
 FeLV in two weeks and if they test negative (which I really hope is the
 case), they're getting vaccinated.  My oldest, Morrison, was supposedly
 vaccinated two years ago, but they have no record of it at my vet's office,
 though they told me he was vaccinated when I took him for his shots two
 years ago.

 I am looking forward to chatting with you all and I really wish all the
 best for you and your kitties!

 PS - can we share pictures of our cats on here?

 - Jennifer (and Ash too!)

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[Jennifer]

Thanks :)  I really hope my other test negative, but if they don't, I will love 
them just the same.

 Jennifer 
        ~ loving mama to ~
            Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)
            Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)
            Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)


--- On Thu, 7/31/08, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New member here
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 5:31 PM

and by this time, the other two have been well exposed, and it''s sort of a 
moot point--the odds are very high that they'll be negative, and if not, will 
it make a huge difference, other than in the way you treat them medically? will 
you love them differently? i doubt that you will--it'll just give you 
information on what things to look for.


FeLV+ cats are just cats, until and if the virus is activated. good food, good 
love, as stressfree an environment as possible--these are the things we know of 
that can help keep that from happening. look into the supplements that are well 
researched and documented, FeLVs get sick just as normal cats do, and get 
treated and get well, without it always having to have to be related to the 
FeLV--just breathe, and learn, and enjoy every minute you have with all of 
them: no living thing comes with a guarantee, after all.


MC

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:17 AM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Welcome to the list.  I hope your original cats test negative, but it sounds 
like Ash is in good shape.  If he's made it over a year his chances of getting 
sick are much less!  tonya


Jennifer Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
Hi everyone.  My name is Jennifer and I live in New Jersey.  My one 
year old male kitty, Ash, was just diagnosed with FeLV yesterday.  I also have 
two other cats, Morrison and Isobel, and they've been living with Ash for a 
year (I've had him since birth).  He's blind in one eye and has developmental 
problems in his back area, but other than the obvious (his illness), he's a 
very happy, content, sweet and playful boy!  Very talkative as well, especially 
in the morning!  He's all
 black with tiny white hairs throughout his coat that you need to really look 
to see.  He eats like a pig and right now, seems healthy.  He's getting fixed 
in a month (that's the soonest my vet could get him in) and my other two cats 
are being tested for FeLV in two weeks and if they test negative (which I 
really hope is the case), they're getting vaccinated.  My oldest, Morrison, was 
supposedly vaccinated two years ago, but they have no record of it at my vet's 
office, though they told me he was vaccinated when I took him for his shots two 
years ago.  


I am looking forward to chatting with you all and I really wish all the best 
for you and your kitties!

PS - can we share pictures of our cats on here?

- Jennifer (and Ash too!)


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[Karen Griffith]

Jennifer,

I am glad that you are taking such good care of Ash.  I don't get the time to 
post to the list often, but am willing to take telephone calls for advise.  I 
am a 1974 Ohio State University grad in Animal Science and have my Masters work 
in Animal Nutrition and Physiology...with over 30 plus years experience and 
additional study as an Animal Scientist (Physiology/Pathology) and 
Nutritionist.  I have worked with many FeLV cats.  I now work mainly 
holistically, but also advise the use of traditional veterinary medications 
along with the natural.  I can work with your veterinarian if you so wish.  If 
you, or your veterinarian,  would like to give me a call, I can answer any 
questions you may have and hopefully help you on your way to better health with 
your kitty.

Let me know the best time to reach you by phone if I am not available when you 
call.  There is no charge for my services or suggestions to anyone on this 
list.My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My other contact info is following.

Looking forward to speaking with you.  (This invitation also goes out to anyone 
one this list that is in need of help.)

P.S. below, please read.

Karen Griffith 
Karen Griffith Farms
34440 State Route 7
Pomeroy, Ohio 45769
Phone: 740-992-5782
Website: www.karengriffith.com
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you would put 'Old Tom' in your prayers, it would be appreciated.  He was 25 
years old 'I knew this for sure as I had him for 20 years', and had judged him 
at at least 10 by his teeth when I castrated him and did his teeth. He died in 
the lightning storm we had here last week.  He was FeLV positive for the last 
10 yrs, and had endured other severe problems, but was in great health at his 
'untimely' demise.  You all will think I'm crazy for being upset at losing him 
this way, but it was storming too severely to go out in the lightning storm and 
hail to get him in...I had just let him outside 15 minutes before the storm 
suddenly rolled in.  There were over 100mph straight line winds, many huge 
trees down, power lines, structural damage, etc.  I miss him terribly.  I have 
25 cats I am taking care of, but 'The Old Man' was special.  He was a tough, 
proud old guy.  There are a lot of good stories about him.  (I started to tell 
a few, but decided to leave it at that).   I just miss him. 

The neighbor lost 2 horses in the storm as wellall 70 head of my horses 
came through OK.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jennifer Lynn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:13 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] New member here


Hi everyone.  My name is Jennifer and I live in New Jersey.  My one 
year old male kitty, Ash, was just diagnosed with FeLV yesterday.  I also have 
two other cats, Morrison and Isobel, and they've been living with Ash for a 
year (I've had him since birth).  He's blind in one eye and has developmental 
problems in his back area, but other than the obvious (his illness), he's a 
very happy, content, sweet and playful boy!  Very talkative as well, especially 
in the morning!  He's all black with tiny white hairs throughout his coat that 
you need to really look to see.  He eats like a pig and right now, seems 
healthy.  He's getting fixed in a month (that's the soonest my vet could get 
him in) and my other two cats are being tested for FeLV in two weeks and if 
they test negative (which I really hope is the case), they're getting 
vaccinated.  My oldest, Morrison, was supposedly vaccinated two years ago, but 
they have no record of it at my vet's office, though they told me he was 
vaccinated when I took him for his shots two years ago.  

I am looking forward to chatting with you all and I really wish all the 
best for you and your kitties!

PS - can we share pictures of our cats on here?

- Jennifer (and Ash too!)
   




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[Marylyn]

On Jul 30, 2008, at 6:26 AM, Marylyn wrote:

It doesn't matter how old they are when they leave.it breaks  
your heart. However, he left loved and cared for.  The comfort in  
that.  And he added so much to your life.



On Jul 30, 2008, at 2:20 AM, Karen Griffith wrote:


Jennifer,

I am glad that you are taking such good care of Ash.  I don't get  
the time to post to the list often, but am willing to take  
telephone calls for advise.  I am a 1974 Ohio State University grad  
in Animal Science and have my Masters work in Animal Nutrition and  
Physiology...with over 30 plus years experience and additional  
study as an Animal Scientist (Physiology/Pathology) and  
Nutritionist.  I have worked with many FeLV cats.  I now work  
mainly holistically, but also advise the use of traditional  
veterinary medications along with the natural.  I can work with  
your veterinarian if you so wish.  If you, or your veterinarian,   
would like to give me a call, I can answer any questions you may  
have and hopefully help you on your way to better health with your  
kitty.


Let me know the best time to reach you by phone if I am not  
available when you call.  There is no charge for my services or  
suggestions to anyone on this list.My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
.


My other contact info is following.

Looking forward to speaking with you.  (This invitation also goes  
out to anyone one this list that is in need of help.)


P.S. below, please read.

Karen Griffith
Karen Griffith Farms
34440 State Route 7
Pomeroy, Ohio 45769
Phone: 740-992-5782
Website: www.karengriffith.com
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you would put 'Old Tom' in your prayers, it would be  
appreciated.  He was 25 years old 'I knew this for sure as I had  
him for 20 years', and had judged him at at least10 by his teeth  
when I castrated him and did his teeth. He died in the lightning  
storm we had here last week.  He was FeLV positive for the last 10  
yrs, and had endured other severe problems, but was in great health  
at his 'untimely' demise.  You all will think I'm crazy for being  
upset at losing him this way, but it was storming too severely to  
go out in the lightning storm and hail to get him in...I had just  
let him outside 15 minutes before the storm suddenly rolled in.   
There were over 100mph straight line winds, many huge trees down,  
power lines, structural damage, etc.  I miss him terribly.  I have  
25 cats I am taking care of, but 'The Old Man' was special.  He was  
a tough, proud old guy.  There are a lot of good stories about  
him.  (I started to tell a few, but decided to leave it at that).
I just miss him.


The neighbor lost 2 horses in the storm as wellall 70 head of  
my horses came through OK.

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[Sharyl]

Karen, Old Tom is definitely in our prayers.  It sounds like he had a wonderful 
life with you for these last 20 yrs.  Glad all your other critters made it 
through the storm OK.
Sharyl Sissy Rocket and Daisy's Babies
 
 
 
 
If you would put 'Old Tom' in your prayers, it would be appreciated.  He was 25 
years old 'I knew this for sure as I had him for 20 years', and had judged him 
at at least 10 by his teeth when I castrated him and did his teeth. He died in 
the lightning storm we had here last week.  He was FeLV positive for the 
last 10 yrs, and had endured other severe problems, but was in great health 
at his 'untimely' demise.  You all will think I'm crazy for being upset at 
losing him this way, but it was storming too severely to go out in the 
lightning storm and hail to get him in...I had just let him outside 15 minutes 
before the storm suddenly rolled in.  There were over 100mph straight line 
winds, many huge trees down, power lines, structural damage, etc.  I miss him 
terribly.  I have 25 cats I am taking care of, but 'The Old Man' was special.  
He was a tough, proud old guy.  There are a lot of good stories about him.  (I 
started to tell a few, but
 decided to leave it at that).   I just miss him. 


 
The neighbor lost 2 horses in the storm as wellall 70 head of my horses 
came through OK.


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[Sally Davis]

Karen

I am so sorry to hear of your precious Tom leaving this world.It is a
tribute to you that he lived such a long life. I know you will miss him

Hugs

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[Jennifer]

That's such a touching story...brought tears to my eyes.  What is your new 
kitty's name?  Hopefully she's with you for a very long time :)

 Jennifer 
        ~ loving mama to ~
            Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)
            Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)
            Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)


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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New member here
To: 
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 5:31 AM


On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:59 PM, Marylyn wrote:
Dixie came to me as a grown throw away who had been on her own for a long time. 
 She found her way to my Mom's where she hung out with the ferals who came for 
food, water and shelter.  For three years and 12 days she had everything a 
little cat could want.  She became the owner of a farm in rural Ky with a large 
sunroom, window sills, deer, turkey and windows everywhere; Christmas trees 
that stayed up for months just because she liked to sleep under them; a large 
bed with pillows and dolls...everything a little cat could want, even 
things she didn't know about when she came into my life.   She had the best 
regular and holist medical care available from the day I found out that she was 
FeLV+ and was so wonderfully healthy that I believed she had beaten it.  She 
remained healthy until a couple of days before she left this world.   When she 
left she was beside me, where she was always the safest, and in a Jeep that had 
taken her on many great
 adventures (she loved to travel between the farm and a home in Louisville)..  
I have no regrets at all about having this wonderful little girl in my life.  
She taught me so much.  Now, a month after she left,  she has sent me a tiny 
kitten from the same pine thicket she came from.  Apparently she thought this 
little one, who was alone just as she had been,  should have everything too.   
There are no certainities in life.  It sounds like you have a good grasp on the 
situation.  This group has people knowledgeable in supplements that can 
help strengthen all your cats.  Please listen to them and your heart. 

On Jul 29, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Jennifer Lynn wrote:
Thank you for responding.  I am going to concentrate on keeping Ash (and my 
other kitties) as healthy as possible.  I've been feeding them better food for 
months now...Eukenuba Naturals.  They really like it and it helps with their 
urine and feces (they don't smell as much!).  I keep their litter box clean at 
all times and they always have fresh, cold water.  I am very observant of them 
and I try to give them all the love possible.  I am just going to deal with 
this as it comes and treat Ash like a normal cat (like I've been doing his 
whole life) and keep on giving him all the love I can :)

I am sorry to hear about your Dixie :(  She's in kitty heaven now and nothing 
can hurt her :)

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[Marylyn]

She doesn't have a name yet.  The right one will come.  However, she  
got a new brother this morning,  Another little one came out of the  
pine thicket a few days ago.  He was extremely weak two days ago.  I  
started feeding him chicken breast Monday and Tuesday.  That livened  
him up a little.  I put this little one in her carrier on the patio.   
He came to investigate.  I suspect the conversation revolved around  
food, toys, food, dry sleeping quarters, food, kind words,  
foodHe was not skittish at all and came within about 3 inches  
of getting in the carrier by himself.  He got close enough that I  
could safely get him in a carrier and haul him to the vets'.  They may  
be litter mates.  They are both too young to test for FeLV but, to be  
honest, even if they test + (and I am sure they won't) they will have  
EVERYYTHHHINGGG all their days.  I just have  
to adjust to having kittens.  I have never raised any.I always  
found them homes and kept older cats. :)))  At the first  
opportunity both will see a holistic vet, Dr. Betty Boswelll, in  
Louisville for a general checkup.  I am going to start both on various  
supplements, especially colostrum, just to aid in their development.   
They, like all the critters who have blessed my life, have had a rough  
start.


Again, please listen to the people on this list and take what seems  
right for you and yours.  Some believe in holistic/alternative care,  
some believe in conventional care, some, like me, believe in a  
combination.  Some believe in communicators, others don't.  It is a  
good variety and the range of experiences is  impressive.  Pick your  
path but do not be afraid to veer from it.  Just make your decisions  
with both your heart and your head.  It worked with the Royal Princess  
Kitty Katt and it worked with Dixie Louise.  It will work with these  
two and it will work for you.

On Jul 30, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Jennifer wrote:

That's such a touching story...brought tears to my eyes.  What is  
your new kitty's name?  Hopefully she's with you for a very long  
time :)


 Jennifer
~ loving mama to ~
  Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)
  Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)
  Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)


--- On Wed, 7/30/08, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New member here
To:
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 5:31 AM


On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:59 PM, Marylyn wrote:

Dixie came to me as a grown throw away who had been on her own for  
a long time.  She found her way to my Mom's where she hung out with  
the ferals who came for food, water and shelter.  For three years  
and 12 days she had everything a little cat could want.  She became  
the owner of a farm in rural Ky with a large sunroom, window sills,  
deer, turkey and windows everywhere; Christmas trees that stayed up  
for months just because she liked to sleep under them; a large bed  
with pillows and dolls...everything a little cat could want,  
even things she didn't know about when she came into my life.   She  
had the best regular and holist medical care available from the day  
I found out that she was FeLV+ and was so wonderfully healthy that  
I believed she had beaten it.  She remained healthy until a couple  
of days before she left this world.   When she left she was beside  
me, where she was always the safest, and in a Jeep that had taken  
her on many great adventures (she loved to travel between the farm  
and a home in Louisville).  I have no regrets at all about having  
this wonderful little girl in my life.  She taught me so much.   
Now, a month after she left,  she has sent me a tiny kitten from  
the same pine thicket she came from.  Apparently she thought this  
little one, who was alone just as she had been,  should have  
everything too.   There are no certainities in life.  It sounds  
like you have a good grasp on the situation.  This group has people  
knowledgeable in supplements that can help strengthen all your  
cats.  Please listen to them and your heart.






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[Marylyn]

This is a hard one but remember that there is nothing certain in this  
world and do not obsess over the diagnosis.  Concentrate on the  
wonderful friends you have and enjoy your lives together.  Give all  
the cats the best food you can and give them the supplements that seem  
right to you.  If you have a holistic/alternative vet available,  
consider checking her out.  I had a little over three wonderful years  
with Dixie.  She wasn't sick until a few days before she left this  
world.  I hope you enjoy a lot more years than I had but I would  
never, ever give up one minute with Dixie Louise...not for  
anything.  The time I had with this wonderful being was worth any price.


Listen to the members of this group.  They are great.

Good luck and all the blessings possible to you and all your little  
friends.

On Jul 29, 2008, at 7:13 PM, Jennifer Lynn wrote:

Hi everyone.  My name is Jennifer and I live in New Jersey.  My one  
year old male kitty, Ash, was just diagnosed with FeLV yesterday.  I  
also have two other cats, Morrison and Isobel, and they've been  
living with Ash for a year (I've had him since birth).  He's blind  
in one eye and has developmental problems in his back area, but  
other than the obvious (his illness), he's a very happy, content,  
sweet and playful boy!  Very talkative as well, especially in the  
morning!  He's all black with tiny white hairs throughout his coat  
that you need to really look to see.  He eats like a pig and right  
now, seems healthy.  He's getting fixed in a month (that's the  
soonest my vet could get him in) and my other two cats are being  
tested for FeLV in two weeks and if they test negative (which I  
really hope is the case), they're getting vaccinated.  My oldest,  
Morrison, was supposedly vaccinated two years ago, but they have no  
record of it at my vet's office, though they told me he was  
vaccinated when I took him for his shots two years ago.


I am looking forward to chatting with you all and I really wish all  
the best for you and your kitties!


PS - can we share pictures of our cats on here?

- Jennifer (and Ash too!)


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[Jennifer Lynn]

Thank you for responding.  I am going to concentrate on keeping Ash (and my 
other kitties) as healthy as possible.  I've been feeding them better food for 
months now...Eukenuba Naturals.  They really like it and it helps with their 
urine and feces (they don't smell as much!).  I keep their litter box clean at 
all times and they always have fresh, cold water.  I am very observant of them 
and I try to give them all the love possible.  I am just going to deal with 
this as it comes and treat Ash like a normal cat (like I've been doing his 
whole life) and keep on giving him all the love I can :)

I am sorry to hear about your Dixie :(  She's in kitty heaven now and nothing 
can hurt her :)

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From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New member here
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 12:26 AM

This is a hard one but remember that there is nothing certain in this world and 
do not obsess over the diagnosis.  Concentrate on the wonderful friends you 
have and enjoy your lives together.  Give all the cats the best food you can 
and give them the supplements that seem right to you.  If you have a 
holistic/alternative vet available, consider checking her out.  I had a little 
over three wonderful years with Dixie.  She wasn't sick until a few days before 
she left this world.  I hope you enjoy a lot more years than I had but I would 
never, ever give up one minute with Dixie Louise...not for anything.  The 
time I had with this wonderful being was worth any price.
Listen to the members of this group.  They are great.
Good luck and all the blessings possible to you and all your little friends..   
On Jul 29, 2008, at 7:13 PM, Jennifer Lynn wrote:
Hi everyone.  My name is Jennifer and I live in New Jersey.  My one year old 
male kitty, Ash, was just diagnosed with FeLV yesterday.  I also have two other 
cats, Morrison and Isobel, and they've been living with Ash for a year (I've 
had him since birth).  He's blind in one eye and has developmental problems in 
his back area, but other than the obvious (his illness), he's a very happy, 
content, sweet and playful boy!  Very talkative as well, especially in the 
morning!  He's all black with tiny white hairs throughout his coat that you 
need to really look to see.  He eats like a pig and right now, seems healthy.  
He's getting fixed in a month (that's the soonest my vet could get him in) and 
my other two cats are being tested for FeLV in two weeks and if they test 
negative (which I really hope is the case), they're getting vaccinated.  My 
oldest, Morrison, was supposedly vaccinated two years ago, but they have no 
record of it at my vet's office,
 though they told me he was vaccinated when I took him for his shots two years 
ago.  

I am looking forward to chatting with you all and I really wish all the best 
for you and your kitties!

PS - can we share pictures of our cats on here?

- Jennifer (and Ash too!)

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[Marylyn]

On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:59 PM, Marylyn wrote:

Dixie came to me as a grown throw away who had been on her own for a  
long time.  She found her way to my Mom's where she hung out with  
the ferals who came for food, water and shelter.  For three years  
and 12 days she had everything a little cat could want.  She became  
the owner of a farm in rural Ky with a large sunroom, window sills,  
deer, turkey and windows everywhere; Christmas trees that stayed up  
for months just because she liked to sleep under them; a large bed  
with pillows and dolls...everything a little cat could want,  
even things she didn't know about when she came into my life.   She  
had the best regular and holist medical care available from the day  
I found out that she was FeLV+ and was so wonderfully healthy that I  
believed she had beaten it.  She remained healthy until a couple of  
days before she left this world.   When she left she was beside me,  
where she was always the safest, and in a Jeep that had taken her on  
many great adventures (she loved to travel between the farm and a  
home in Louisville).  I have no regrets at all about having this  
wonderful little girl in my life.  She taught me so much.  Now, a  
month after she left,  she has sent me a tiny kitten from the same  
pine thicket she came from.  Apparently she thought this little one,  
who was alone just as she had been,  should have everything too.
There are no certainities in life.  It sounds like you have a good  
grasp on the situation.  This group has people knowledgeable in  
supplements that can help strengthen all your cats.  Please listen  
to them and your heart.



On Jul 29, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Jennifer Lynn wrote:

Thank you for responding.  I am going to concentrate on keeping Ash  
(and my other kitties) as healthy as possible.  I've been feeding  
them better food for months now...Eukenuba Naturals.  They really  
like it and it helps with their urine and feces (they don't smell  
as much!).  I keep their litter box clean at all times and they  
always have fresh, cold water.  I am very observant of them and I  
try to give them all the love possible.  I am just going to deal  
with this as it comes and treat Ash like a normal cat (like I've  
been doing his whole life) and keep on giving him all the love I  
can :)


I am sorry to hear about your Dixie :(  She's in kitty heaven now  
and nothing can hurt her :)


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[Sally Davis]

Welcome, you will find this group very helpful.

If he is FIV not FeLV then you are better off. FIV cats live long lives with
some health issues. FIV is mostly spread through bites. So as long as he is
neutered and does not fight you should be able to mix him assuming he has
FIV and not FeLV. Good nutrition is important in either case feed the best
you can afford, reduce stress and love him. There is a great FIV group in
the yahoo groups. it is FIVhealthscience you may want to join that group as
well
Sally
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 Hello! I just wanted to introduce myself and my FIV+ Boy MM.  This whole
 FIV thing is very new to us and we would love any advice about it. MM was a
 stray. My neighbor started feeding him and when thy moved we took over. When
 we decided to move we took him with us. Having more room we wanted to make
 him part of our rag tag crew. We kept him separate from the other cats we
 have and got him tested. That's when we got the sad news. We waited a year
 and got him retested and he is still positive. But we still want to bring
 him into the house(he's in a camper right now). I would love to hear about
 anyone experiences with this and what steps to take to keep everyone safe.
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[catatonya]

Is he felv (leukemia) positive or fiv positive? Welcome to the group!
  t

April and Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello! I just wanted to introduce myself and my FIV+ Boy MM. This whole FIV 
thing is very new to us and we would love any advice about it. MM was a stray. 
My neighbor started feeding him and when thy moved we took over. When we 
decided to move we took him with us. Having more room we wanted to make him 
part of our rag tag crew. We kept him separate from the other cats we have and 
got him tested. That's when we got the sad news. We waited a year and got him 
retested and he is still positive. But we still want to bring him into the 
house(he's in a camper right now). I would love to hear about anyone 
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