Re: [Felvtalk] New Here w/Questions

2009-10-17 Thread Ellie Foster
Thank you all very much for your help and info! I am talking very carefully with my sister to make sure that kitty Brie will be happy and healthy for as long as possible! I appreciate it. Ellie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] New Here w/Questions

2009-10-17 Thread dlgegg
...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Im new here, my name is Ellie. I joined because my niece kitty, Brie, is one year old and was diagnosed with FeLV about a month ago with a faint positive result (she is supposed to be retested in 2 months). My question is - my sibling

Re: [Felvtalk] New Here w/Questions

2009-10-17 Thread dlgegg
situation of travel, moving to an unknown place and being on her own for 20 hour days is unbearable. It would be awful for a healthy cat. Please keep her. I know you will be very happy that you did. Jane On Oct 13, 2009, at 2:34 AM, Ellie Foster wrote: Hello, Im new here, my

[Felvtalk] New Here w/Questions

2009-10-13 Thread Ellie Foster
Hello, Im new here, my name is Ellie. I joined because my niece kitty, Brie, is one year old and was diagnosed with FeLV about a month ago with a faint positive result (she is supposed to be retested in 2 months). My question is - my sibling is planning a move across quite a few states (USA

Re: [Felvtalk] New Here w/Questions

2009-10-13 Thread gary
...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ellie Foster Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:35 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] New Here w/Questions Hello, Im new here, my name is Ellie. I joined because my niece kitty, Brie, is one year old and was diagnosed with FeLV about a month ago

Re: [Felvtalk] New Here w/Questions

2009-10-13 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] New Here w/Questions Hello, Im new here, my name is Ellie. I joined because my niece kitty, Brie, is one year old and was diagnosed with FeLV about a month ago with a faint positive result (she is supposed to be retested in 2 months). My question is - my sibling

Re: [Felvtalk] New Here w/Questions

2009-10-13 Thread mitchell
...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, Im new here, my name is Ellie. I joined because my niece kitty, Brie, is one year old and was diagnosed with FeLV about a month ago with a faint positive result (she is supposed to be retested in 2 months). My question is - my sibling is planning a move across quite a few

Re: [Felvtalk] New Here with Questions

2009-10-13 Thread Anna Waltman
-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:34:45 -0400 From: Ellie Foster elliefost...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] New Here w/Questions To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: e924fb900910122334q6b306137sdc4de2d89d439

Re: [Felvtalk] New Here w/Questions

2009-10-13 Thread jbero tds.net
and FIV cats. You should go to www.imulan.com to get more information about this. On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Ellie Foster elliefost...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Im new here, my name is Ellie. I joined because my niece kitty, Brie, is one year old and was diagnosed with FeLV about

Re: [Felvtalk] New Here w/Questions

2009-10-13 Thread Sharyl
: [Felvtalk] New Here w/Questions To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 2:34 AM Hello, Im new here, my name is Ellie. I joined because my niece kitty, Brie, is one year old and was diagnosed with FeLV about a month ago with a faint positive result (she is supposed

Re: [Felvtalk] New Here with Questions

2009-10-13 Thread Belinda Sauro
Just as another side to the stress story ... when I found Bailey at 5 months of age, he was FeLV+, him and my 4 others at that time traveled for 3 months in a semi truck when I decided to move back to Washington from Missouri. All 5 cats, hubby and me and all the stuff we brought with us

Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...

2009-04-27 Thread Karen Griffith
Laurie, Just give me a call at 740-992-5782. Karen - Original Message - From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Karen, I have Feline Transfer Factor in powder form. Should

Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...

2009-04-26 Thread Karen Griffith
Judy, I just noticed that your kitty is having breathing problems. That worried me. In all of my treatments for FeLV, I use Transfer Factor Plus in addition to other supportive treatments depending upon the symptoms .You can do what you want, but the only reason that I paid the money and

Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...

2009-04-26 Thread Kelley Saveika
Karen, Sorry to go off topic, but have you seen any trials with TF with feline heart disease patients? I have a kitty who has a severe congenital heart defect. She's going on 4, fingers crossed. Kelley On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Karen Griffith griff...@frognet.netwrote: Judy, I

Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...

2009-04-26 Thread Karen Griffith
-992-5782 - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Karen, Sorry to go off topic, but have you seen any trials with TF with feline heart disease patients? I

Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...

2009-04-26 Thread Laurieskatz
...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Karen Griffith Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 4:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Judy, I just noticed that your kitty is having breathing problems. That worried me. In all of my treatments for FeLV, I use Transfer

Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...

2009-04-24 Thread Heather
How were his liver values? He isn't yellow at all (whites of eyes, insides of ears)? Just worry about hepatic lipidosis, the couple of run ins we've had with it were very, very sick cats but a friend just had a rescue who looked so good (also eating pretty well) they had no idea she was

[Felvtalk] I'm new here...

2009-04-23 Thread Judy Eaton
This is my introductory note to you guys. I am Judy Eaton and live in Richland, Oregon, a tiny, remote farming community. I am a lifelong animal lover, especially of cats, and have owned many. Currently, I have an 11 month old grey tabby, Wilson Combat, who is fel leuk positive. I found out

Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...

2009-04-23 Thread Karen Griffith
PM Subject: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... This is my introductory note to you guys. I am Judy Eaton and live in Richland, Oregon, a tiny, remote farming community. I am a lifelong animal lover, especially of cats, and have owned many. Currently, I have an 11 month old grey tabby, Wilson Combat, who

Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...

2009-04-23 Thread Laurieskatz
Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Judy Eaton Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:57 PM To: Feline leukemia Subject: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... This is my introductory note to you guys. I am Judy Eaton and live in Richland

Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...

2009-04-23 Thread Jane Lyons
Hi Judy We all know what a heartbreak a Felv diagnosis is, but as all of us on this list know, there is always hope. Have you tried Nutri-cal? Although I have never used it, I have heard it described as a highly caloric paste that is used to help cats maintain weight and also to stimulate

Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...

2009-04-23 Thread Jane Lyons
for with it alone.) Looking forward to speaking with you. The best time to reach me is after 9 pm EST. Karen Griffith - Original Message - From: Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com To: Feline leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:57 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] I'm new here

Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...

2009-04-23 Thread Kerry MacKenzie
. The best time to reach me is after 9 pm EST. Karen Griffith - Original Message - From: Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com To: Feline leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:57 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... This is my introductory note to you guys. I

Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...

2009-04-23 Thread Lisa Borden
I would be interested as well. Just today, I was discussing this treatment with Tommy's vet. - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Hi Karen I would

Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...

2009-04-23 Thread Sharyl
a baby spoon. Hugs to Wilson Sharyl --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 6:33 PM Welcome! Glad you are here and sorry

Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...

2009-04-23 Thread Karen Griffith
:55 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Hi Karen I would be interested ( as would everyone on this list) in knowing about the success you have had in treating Felv. Are you representing or connected in anyway with Immulan ? Thanks Jane On Apr 23, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Karen Griffith

Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-14 Thread Sharyl
place to 'room'. Sharyl --- On Sat, 12/13/08, souther...@aol.com souther...@aol.com wrote: From: souther...@aol.com souther...@aol.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 10:12 PM I just found this list after doing

Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-14 Thread Southernes
In a message dated 12/14/2008 12:19:08 AM Central Standard Time, maima...@duo-county.com writes: Love him with all your and do not fear the future. Everyone who loves and is loved has a broken heart eventually and, just as eventually, breaks another's heart. Learn from him. He's

Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-14 Thread Southernes
In a message dated 12/14/2008 12:49:47 AM Central Standard Time, drosenfe...@wi.rr.com writes: In your case, if the pancreatitis is still going, the trick is to feed something that won't irritate the pancreas. Slippery slope, but doable. Do you have any suggestions as to what that might

Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-14 Thread Belinda Sauro
Hi Sidney, Welcome, I am sorry General is feeling so poorly, pancreatitis is a booger to deal with, Bailey had this and it eventually turned into cancer and I lost him to it. He was FeLV+ at 5 months of age and passed at 11 years old. We didn't realize he had pancreatitis because he

Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-14 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I really don't know squat about pancreas - but with the mention of Slippery - I syringe Slippery Elm liquid to kitties with other types of digestive problems. Supposed to be nutritious as well as soothing. Like I say, don't know much about it for pancreas problems. Gloria On Dec 14,

[Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-13 Thread Southernes
I just found this list after doing a little on line reading. I joined this list to learn more about the issues surrounding caring for a Feline Leukemia positive cat. Here's our story: I have never owned a cat or even been around a cat in my life and I'm almost 52. Two years ago this coming

Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-13 Thread Cougar Clan
Oh my. A story I know well. With both Felv+ and Felv- cats. You have been hooked by an angel. My first and only Felv+ was Dixie. She was probably 3 or so years old. After I decided to find a way to keep her (She apparently had lost her home and was hanging out with the ferals behind

Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-13 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
] Introduction - new here (LONG) I just found this list after doing a little on line reading. I joined this list to learn more about the issues surrounding caring for a Feline Leukemia positive cat. Here's our story: I have never owned a cat or even been around a cat in my life and I'm almost 52

Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-13 Thread Cougar Clan
I wonder if Lysine would help with the eye infection? I've used the supplement with some ferals and, at one point, with Dixie. There are some nuances though. You need to get them from others on the list. It has to do with the quality of the supplement. Until you hear from someone

Re: [Felvtalk] New Here

2008-08-16 Thread wendy
of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:31:15 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] New

Re: [Felvtalk] New Here

2008-08-16 Thread gary
] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New Here Welcome to the group Jody! So glad you hear your kitties are healthy! I feed mine Innova Evo. I would also suggest pure L-Lysine as a supplement. It's an immune system booster, comes

[Felvtalk] New Here

2008-08-13 Thread jbutler5758
Hello! I'm new to this list. My husband and I have two FeLV positive cats. Bo is four, and Seven was a year old in June. We have them both on interferon and have regular well-cat visits with our vets. So far, Bo and Seven are in good health. I have read a lot recently about diets for cats

Re: [Felvtalk] New Here

2008-08-13 Thread Marylyn
I fed Dixie Louise Primal Raw mixed with organic veggies that were high in iron and/or vitamin C. From the China scare she never had food with grains. Until a very few days before she left this world she was very healthy and happy. She saw a holistic vet frequently and a regular vet as

Re: [Felvtalk] New Here

2008-08-13 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Welcome to the list! I must admit, I feed pretty ordinary food. Would do better if I didn't do rescue and consequently have rescue cats. But I have 2 FELV cats that I acquired from Oklahoma, and they're over 10. I've had them for a few years, the previous owner had them for quite a few.

Re: New Here

2007-10-14 Thread Sally Davis
are good. Junior gets his supplements in his wet food, and he like Iams chicken. Folks here will not agree that it is a good brand however he eats it and gained back 2.5pounds, so I am happy with the results. Sally On 10/14/07, Kenzie Kanne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am new here and very happy

Re: Hi everyone. New here. Need help with my kitty please.

2007-08-03 Thread glenda Goodman
Hi Beckie, I have been reading your posts, but am still learning myself...so have been leaving it up to those who have been involved with these problems longer than myself. Until the day my vet told me my kitten had just tested positive for FeLV, I just cared for my cats the way I assumed, was

Re: Hi everyone. New here. Need help with my kitty please.

2007-08-02 Thread Nina
Hello Beckie, I haven't been participating in the group lately, (just too overwhelmed), but I poked my head in and saw your post. I'm so sorry that Moe is having such a hard time! We all know how frustrating and discouraging it can be to watch our furkids suffer and not be able to come up

Hi everyone. New here. Need help with my kitty please.

2007-08-01 Thread Beckie McRae
Hi everyone. My name is Beckie. I'm 25 and live in Iowa with my boyfriend and 3 cats (2 of whom are FLV positive). I'm hoping you guys can help me. I have a cat named Moe and he's about 3 and has FLV. About 3 weeks ago, I noticed some bumps around his neck and on his back, and he started to lose

RE: Hi everyone. New here. Need help with my kitty please.

2007-08-01 Thread Melissa Lind
! Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Beckie McRae Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Hi everyone. New here. Need help with my kitty please. Hi everyone. My name is Beckie. I'm 25 and live in Iowa with my

Re: Hi everyone. New here. Need help with my kitty please.

2007-08-01 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:22 AM Subject: Hi everyone. New here. Need help with my kitty please. Hi everyone. My name is Beckie. I'm 25 and live in Iowa with my boyfriend and 3 cats (2 of whom are FLV positive). I'm hoping you guys can help me. I have a cat named Moe and he's about

Re: new here ~ feleuk+ cat with high temp

2007-06-30 Thread Gina WN
guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From:laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:24PM Subject: new here ~ feleuk+ cat with hightemp

new here ~ feleuk+ cat with high temp ~blood work and other Qs

2007-06-30 Thread laurieskatz
thanks! Laurie - Original Message - From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 7:38 AM Subject: Re: new here ~ feleuk+ cat with high temp Laurie, My cat Smokey had the same problem with fevers. After many different stays

Re: new here ~ feleuk+ cat with high temp ~blood work and other Qs

2007-06-30 Thread Jane Lyons
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 7:38 AM Subject: Re: new here ~ feleuk+ cat with high temp Laurie, My cat Smokey had the same problem with fevers. After many different stays in the hospital and 1 doctor at my vet's office that didn't really seem like

Re: new here ~ feleuk+ cat with high temp

2007-06-29 Thread Susan Dubose
: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:24 PM Subject: new here ~ feleuk+ cat with high temp Hi. We rescued a one to two year old cat about 5 weeks ago. She has had a temp anywhere from normal (June 19) to 107 (June 26). Her blood work this week indicates she has a low white blood count and is also anemic. She

Re: new here ~ feleuk+ cat with high temp

2007-06-29 Thread dede hicken
Laurie, I am facing the exact same thing as you are at the moment except Ki won't eat. The metacam worked for us, but the minute he was off it, the fever started again. The bloodwork should come back today, but i know he is amemic. We tried Clavamox, clindrops, and baytril. We are now on a new

Re: new here ~ feleuk+ cat with high temp

2007-06-29 Thread Sally Davis
Hi Junior went through this last fall. In addition to antibiotics he also did the immunoregulin. I think that was what got him past the fevers and anemia. He also had gingivitis that the IR took care of. Is he out of the woods no. He is still here and stable. I do the IR monthly as maintenance

Re: new here ~ feleuk+ cat with high temp

2007-06-29 Thread cindy reasoner
Laurie, My cat Smokey had the same problem with fevers. After many different stays in the hospital and 1 doctor at my vet's office that didn't really seem like she wanted to help Smokey I changed the vet he goes to. The new vet started him on the immunoregulin. She had me give it to him subq.

Re: new here ~ feleuk+ cat with high temp

2007-06-29 Thread dede hicken
Sally, what is manapol, what kind of fish oil, and where do you order the Transfactor Factor? Geez, I have 2 cats with stomatitis. Wonder how the IR would do with those? Thanks, Dede --- Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Junior went through this last fall. In addition to

Re: new here ~ feleuk+ cat with high temp

2007-06-29 Thread Sally Davis
Dede I am a bit slow reading my emails. The manapol is something I recently added. I lost the original email with the cheapest place to get it but I think the price I paid was close. It is derived from aloe, acemannan in a powder form that you mix with food. I was using 4 life Transfer Factor

new here ~ feleuk+ cat with high temp

2007-06-28 Thread laurieskatz
Hi. We rescued a one to two year old cat about 5 weeks ago. She has had a temp anywhere from normal (June 19) to 107 (June 26). Her blood work this week indicates she has a low white blood count and is also anemic. She has no other symptoms (other than recent lethargy) and is still interested

Re: new here ~ feleuk+ cat with high temp

2007-06-28 Thread wendy
Hi Laurie, Welcome to the group. I'm sorry to hear that Isabella is having a lot of trouble with anemia and fevers. One of the things we like to suggest for fevers is ImmunoRegulin. It helps to bring the fever down, but we don't really know why. It's only through experience with some of our

Re: New here with Felv+ cat

2007-05-16 Thread Nina
Hi Tia, Thank you for rescuing Mr. Biggles. It's fabulous that he's so healthy under the circumstances. Try not to worry too much about confining him right now. Poor baby is used to being in a cage and he's better off being acclimated to his new surroundings slowly so he can feel as safe

New here with Felv+ cat

2007-05-14 Thread Hissandtell
Hi, my name is Brenda and this is my first post. I have a small cat rescue and always reading everything I can about cats. I just rescued a felv positive male cat who has been kept in a rabbit cage for the last year and a half. He is such a sweetheart! A real lover boy. I heard he was in

Re: New here with Felv+ cat

2007-05-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When I had a FELV+ cat, I mixed with unvaccinated negative cats, I had NO transmission at all. That's MY personal experience. He must be MUCH happier in the sunroom than in a rabbit cage! How are his paw pads? Rabbit wire is TERRIBLE on cat's feet! I find that extremely inhumane! I'm so glad you

new here

2005-11-22 Thread Allie Deaver
Hello all- My cat Lola, age 8 months, tested positive for FeLV today via Elisa testing after being taken in for what looked like a nasty URI. Her symptoms seem to be responding fairly well to antibiotics...she is eating and drinking at her normal rate, she is using the box, she is breathing fine

Re: new here

2005-11-22 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS
Allie, Welcome to the list. You'll find these people very educated in Felv and lots of help when it comes to treating the disease. They are also the best when you need a friend, things can sometimes be up and down with these guys. Since my Baby C passed I will leave the medical advise to

New here

2005-09-21 Thread Sue Taft
I've joined this group to get advice for a friend who doesn't have internet access. We both work in cat rescue. Last month we took in a number of cats that had been abandoned by their owner. All tested FeLV/FIV negative. Today my friend was concerned about one of them, he was off his food

RE: New here

2005-09-21 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
e TaftSent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:48 AMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: New here I've joined this group to get advice for a friend who doesn't have internet access. We both work in cat rescue. Last month we took in a number of cats that had been abandoned by their owner. All teste

for Sue RE: New here

2005-09-21 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Of Sue TaftSent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:48 AMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: New here I've joined this group to get advice for a friend who doesn't have internet access. We both work in cat rescue. Last month we took in a number of cats that had been abandoned by their owner

for Sue: New here

2005-09-21 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
est, Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue TaftSent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:48 AMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: New here I've joined this group to get advice for a friend who doesn't have internet access. We both work in

RE: for Sue: New here

2005-09-21 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 2:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: for Sue: New here Sue-- Here's the excerpt I mentioned---(if you happen to pick up the bookThe New Natural Cat--A Complete Guide for Finicky Owners, by Anitra Frazier-- it's in the Feline

Re: re new here , have question

2005-03-20 Thread M H
Message: 2Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:27:13 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: new here, have questionTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCIIHiI had that, one of 5 test positive. All tested negative. I have not had them retested

new here, have question

2005-03-17 Thread M H
Hi everyone. Recently I took three cats to getspayed and I had the vet also do the Felv test. One of the three cats tested positive(on 2/15).Ilater had two more cats tested. The results were negative.Even before thosetests,I had a different cat also tested for Felv and Fiv and she tested negative.