Hello,
I joined this list years ago, and have now needed to rejoin. Trying to find
testing protocol for FeLV and an explanation for it.
I am with a rescue grp and we have just started trapping in a colony that had
30
kittens last year and none of them tested pos. We just took 9 kittens wit
I am surprised this list got so off topic. A few years ago, this wouldn't be
allowed to happen. I have very strong political opinions, and very strong
opinions about hunting, but what I rejoined this list for was only to
understand
how to deal with 9 kittens from a few different litters in sa
Can anyone explain to me why if from point of exposure to actually testing pos
is 28 days, if this is correct, why we can't just retest in one month using
Elisa? And if all excepting the one testing weak pos, stjill test neg, is this
good enough? All 8 kittens and some of their moms tested neg
vtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of janine
paton
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 8:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] 9 kittens, one testing pos
Can anyone explain to me why if from point of exposure to actually testing pos
is 28 days, if th
Alev,
I am so sorry this has happened to you and River. River is a beautiful name,
btw, and one I gave to a rescue cat we took in recently. I don't know what
else
to say other than I am hoping you someday find peace with what has happened
knowing your intentions were only the best, and you
The stress of an unspayed female is great, I think much greater than the
spaying
itself. And it may be true that pyometria is more common in dogs, but boy have
we seen plenty in outside cats, even young ones. One couldn't have been more
than a year old and we had no idea her slightly swollen
Amen to that and great point about all the salmonella from commercial food!
My house has been a great experiment in raw vs commercial. While feeding a raw
food diet (same one as on catnutrition.org) my cats rarely had a hairball,
never
had crystals or any type of cystitis, had sleek coats and
I am so not a fan of metacam either, other than one or two days. More than one
day is off label and for good reason. Agree with Susan, use torbulgesic or
buprenex, which addresses cancer pain much better. I don't get why vets
continue to use metacam. Maybe they will stop when they have a ca
Is it just me, or does anyone else think maybe PETA killed these cats
regardless of their test results. In other words, is it possible the cats
didn't test positive for anything but "feral", so was an excuse to kill them?
Sharyl, I am so very sorry.
Janine
___
Jeepers. I'm so sorry for this cat! I have a FIV+ named Whitey who'd been hit
by a car a few winters ago. Disappeared for a week, feeders thought he was
dead. Long story short, he now lives in my bedroom (only because he doesn't
play nice with others) but oh boy, does he love us. Broken jaw
Took in an FIV cat with very bad stomatitis. I'd never seen a huge, emaciated
cat try to eat but run backwards growling and screaming and pawing at his face,
and boy, was I afraid of him! Vet pulled teeth, was reluctant at first to use
steroid because of FIV status but after a month, very bad
No Kill Advocacy Center
Read above link, by Nathan Winograd. His website has plenty of information
about Peta, etc. The reason this is so close to my heart, is this - there is a
woman in my hometown who has been trapping and killing feral cats for 35
years.
We live in a pretty good sized
Hey Laura,
Your subject line really caught me - I've recently lost a cat named Bridget and
she was the best, smartest cat. Bridget is a wonderful name and thank god she
had one. I don't know what LTCI is and am hoping someone explains it.
I relocated a feral cat named Molly to my yard and
Kim, it's a horrifying experience to go through. You are right, Laura, so many
of us do have the same story and it just happened here - a mild URI, a sudden
difficulty in breathing, emergency vet visit, then gone a few hrs later, but
unlike your kitty, by himself with his brother as a witness.
Definitely pos mom gave birth in trap to 5 kittens. 2 survived, one pos, one
neg tested over and over. Adopted, both retested negative down the road. No
explanation either but it must be possible. What I don't understand is a
kitten
testing neg while the virus is latent, then breaking with
Last year we had a brother/sister feral pair just in, crated together and when
spayed 2 wks later at 5 1/2 mos, the female was pregnant already with one
kitten.
We can't afford to spay.neuter every single litter we take on right away, but
follow up like crazy with adoptions and our rule is s
Same here, I sing to my feral kittens and they seem to love it.
"Trapped" one in a snowstorm who was very ill and kept moving away, but fell
asleep when I sang to him. When I got close, he'd wake and I'd stop, look
away, start singing again when he relaxed and stoped looking at me. Finally
Hi,
>
> Hope I'm doing this correctly, I'm not very good at
> these lists.
> I'm with a small rescue group and we've trapped
> fourteen 10 - 12 week old kittens (three moms) from
> one yard. They are being socialized in 3 or 4
> foster
> homes. It's a lot of work and time and the kittens
> ar
Hello everyone,
A while back I joined this list after trapping 5
kittens who tested positive.
Luckily, all 5 have been placed. One little guy named
Emmet went to a home as a companion to another
positive cat.
The adoptive mom's vet said Emmet's glands are swollen
and doesn't give this kitte
There are lots of cats I know of that need to be
relocated somewhere but I really can't take them all.
I already have too many in my yard (and enough under
my bed) but I'm looking more to address the
caretaker's fear that she will get sick again while
outside, and be impossible to find or trap.
Yes, she tested positive with the IFA test. We are
primarily a small TNR group and don't always test, but
she was so thin and run down, we had her tested.
The other adults looked OK. Many of the 14 kittens,
positive and negative, had health issues, which we're
getting through.
We are base
Our website is www.adoptapet.org - we have a ways to
go with the site, but if you take a look, Emmet, the
positive kitten with the swollen glands, is on our
home page. Even tho he's been placed, the picture is
so cute we thought it might help people realize
positive cats need homes too.
Janine
Gloria,
Thanks for that 2c. I got the feeling the vet was
leaning towards euth'sia and I didn't want to argue
the point when I don't really know what I'm talking
about.
Janine
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Regarding Emmet, My guess would be that's not
> necessarily so (that he's
> dying)
I have a cat who is negative, but he doesn't want to
eat either.
My homeopathic vet recommends a supplement called
Amino B-Plex.
It has amino acids, B vitamins to stimulate the
appetite, potassium, iron, a few other things that
aren't familiar to me. It's a liquid, and they seem
to like it.
Hi Kerry,
Most of my cats love the laser. No matter how quietly
I try to take it out of it's hiding spot, some of them
will actually wake up immediately and come running. I
find it amazing that they know the difference between
the noise the chain on the laser makes and dozens of
others similar
Hi all,
I'm going through this same thing and am so grateful
for all the experience and calmness on this subject.
And Nina, I don't feel so crazy since reading how you
are feeling the same way.
My cat MacKenzie is not positive, but he is dying.
His breathing is mostly quieter now, but very sh
Yes, please don't use Tea Tree Oil on or around cats.
And if it's a small amount in a product (like Halo
makes an earwash that has T.T. listed in it) I won't
use it either because I wonder what effect it has on
their liver.
Janine
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> DO NOT USE TEA TREE OIL ON CAT
I've also trapped moms using kittens for bait. It's
heartbreaking until you see the mom weeks after the
spay and she looks so much better and relaxed.
Think of it this way - if you didn't try this - the
kittens will get bigger, she will have a harder time
caring for them. They will start wand
Anyone know the dose of lysine to give to kittens?
They are 4 months, a little thin.
Thanks,
Janine
I think FIV cats seem to be the sweetest too - trapped
one the other day and the poor boy peed in the trap,
he was so frightened. That's the first time that's
ever happened to me.
There are a whole bunch of rescue people a little
north of where I am who instead of saying the cat
tested FIV+, say
Hi all,
Two brothers, 7 weeks today tested one positive, one
negative for leukemia. The mom is feral, and has not
been tested yet, but her sister tested positive. The
mom had been trapped by someone trying to do the right
thing, but the kittens were born beforre she could get
her to the vet. A
rest at heart. Still, I'm
> praying that they can be
> kept together and adopted out to someone that cares
> as much as we do for
> their quality of life.
> Thanks for all you do,
> Nina
>
> janine paton wrote:
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Two brothers, 7 w
>From Little Big Cat website, good article on slippery
elm.
http://www.littlebigcat.com/index.php?action=library&act=show&item=slipperyelm
Janine
--- "MacKenzie, Kerry N."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what's "im" MC?? Can't figure it out! Kerry
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PR
Guy called today. Going through divorce, wife does
not want the cats. He's moving back in with his
parents, who have a cat, but are thankfully away for a
week. When he called, he was driving around with his
cats in his car. I asked him to bring the cats to his
parents' house and put them in a co
Hopefully I'm not repeating something here, but we've
had 2 young females (both approx 8 mos) in 2 different
feral colonies recently with pyometra. One was
obviously ill and close to death. The other was just
dumb luck - trapped her expecting a routine spay and
was very surprised to find out.
Hi, I am not so active on this list because I am
primarily doing rescue with only occassional
positives. But, I have to say I would spay this cat
so fast, pregnant or not. There are way too many
kittens being born outside this year - back to back
pregnancies it seems. And you don't need your gir
That's an EXCELLENT website. Nothing straightens out cats and kittens like the
recipe from catinfo.org. CRF, LK, cancer, symptomatic FIV, healthy cats, you
name it, we've had cats on this diet with tremendous success and never once a
bad result. You just have to treat the raw meat with respec
Hello everyone,
I joined this list some years ago because as a rescuer, I wanted information on
how best to deal with leukemia colonies we were running into. My organization
also does adoptions. We have a family interested in one of our kittens as a
companion to a 5 yr old positive cat. The
Had this recently with one of mine. Her canine tooth was sticking straight out
also, it looked horrible, but took her to vet, person who does dentals there
easily removed the tooth. Came right out in one second, by had, no big deal!
From: Laurieskatz
To: f
Maybe you can find some good tips on
www.catsinthebag.org - it's a good website on how to
find lost cats.
--- Gary Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi you wonderful group you,
>
> Leslie will post more tomorrow, I was so excited I'm
> not sure if I've got the details right, but here's a
> ro
This is a vet on our org's board. Her name is Elaine
Parliman and her email is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] She's based in Norwalk,
CT, and makes house calls.
Janine
--- kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 10:59 AM 10/22/2006, you wrote:
>
> I will pass this on to her. Sadly she lost Binky ..
> KEL
Hello,
I'm with a rescue group and have questions about 2
different cats who have tsted positive. Ross - A
family we connected with rescued a front declawed,
orange 2 yr old male from an abandoned building 2 yrs
ago. He test leukemia positive. Family did not give
up on him and he has lived i
Hi Janet,
That simple act of rescue can certainly become
complicated.
I joined this list months ago after trapping a litter
of feral positive kittens. I was looking for sound
advice, which I got, and I should really sign off the
list now since I can't keep up with the volume of
emails but I han
Kerry, I agree with Gloria - would be surprised if the cat was chipped, at least by the half-adopters. Can you lure the cat away from the building and out of site of the cameras (for instance - KFC thigh meat, esp warmed so the smell carries might make her walk right into a carrier set behi
Ah, only a cat would have to put up with a choice
between amputation and being homeless.
www.catsinternational.org has excellent information on
how to "train" a cat. They've toned down their
article on declawing for some reason, but still make
some good points in it. Feline Future also has a
Excuse me for coming into this in the middle, so I
hope I'm not repreating anything but if interstitial
cystitis is the one that recurrs, sometimes has blood
in the urine, no bacteria and cyrstals or stone, I use
slippery elm. Natures Way is one compnay that makes
it and it comes in capsules. Her
MIchelle, I honestly don't know if the SE effects the
PH, but I'm pretty sure grain does.
When Benjamin blocked, I got really scared about what
to feed him. I really didn't like the vet-recommended
food but I needed someone I respected to tell me it
was OK to take the jump and feed him raw, so I
I don't have any FeLV cats here now, but I did have a
FeLv kitten for 6 months here, and I started him on
raw immediately. He came in pretty sick too. He
eventually went into a foster home with a positive
room, and he was so much happier with company, but
when here, he ate that raw like there was
Hi Wendy,
Try the KFC very warm thigh meat torn into small
pieces trick and keep your attitude ho-hum - don't
even think the word trap.
There's a very cool website called spayandstay.org (I
think) with great pictures and tips which might help.
The only thing I don't like is it sounds as if th
My experience with stomatitis was with an FIV cat. As
I understand it, the red line is gingivitis (you can
try rubbing Co-q-10 gel on that) but Kohl had the red
line and sores in his mouth, which was the stomatitis
part, and down his throat.
Because he was FIV+, the vet pulled a few teeth but
di
This is the best source of information on feral cats -
I used to be stuck to it like glue, and wish I could
be still.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> FYI, group on caring for feral cats, and this email
> has link to group on
> bottle feeding kittens...
> Michelle
> > Date: 12 Jan 2006 00:55:50
I can't imagine what this is like for you either.
Peace to you and LIghtening Bug.
I hope all the love we have for these cats gets
wrapped around them and makes that journey easier.
. --- catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Del,
>
> I found your message about Sam. Again, I'm so
I always thought those big FIV cats are just the
sweetest - just never heard anyone come out and say
that!
Lucky person who gets found by one of those cats - my
big, scary looking guy was the best cat I've ever
lived with. My husband went from calling him a
"monster" - this was fear I think for
Here is a good list
http://www.catinfo.org/commercialcannedfoods.htm
Most importantly, the catinfo.org website explains WHY
it's a good list. Dr. Pierson did such a good job
putting all of this together and when I asked her for
permission to post to our website she said Yes,
whatever you can do
But is IS true with the FIV vaccine.
Janine
--- Terri Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree with Chris. That's not so with the FeLV
> vaccine. My Siggie was always vaccinated and has
> always tested negative.
>
> =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere,
> Sammi, Travis, Dori
Try www.catsinthebag.org
--- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> My sister's (Connie), inside-only tuxedo cat went
> missing sometime last
> night. His name is Tux and he's short haired, and
> about 2yrs, with the
> sweetest little kitten face. They think he may have
> snuck out
No experience here but much interest in the responses!
My wood floors and carpeted upstairs are trashed!
I can't see my husband and I laying tile ourselves but
maybe some people from the organization will help us.
Janine
-- wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> My husband and I h
Hi Susan,
We went through this 4 yrs ago with our largest foster
home. It's really a nightmare. Looking back I can
see we did a few things wrong. Beating the bushes and
calling their names was the wrong thing to do, esp
with the more feral cats. Setting traps is really a
better idea.
You m
Ah, but only a cat would have to choose between
amputaion or death.
I see no difference with this logic and killing cats
who test positive.
Catsinternational.org (also based in the midwest) has
thankfully updated their page on declawing. They are
calling for people to name declawing what it
Good source of information is yahoo groups -
Feral_cats.
For hard-to-trap cats, I bungee cord the trap open to
get them used to the concept. It's just a little
patience and most importantly, calmness. Act as if
the bungeed-open trap is nothing more than a big dish
to put food in.
I didn't r
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Caroline, I love possums and I love that name! Please
don't feel guilty. Whatever time Possum had here, the
two of you made it better for each other.And
you've given me the inspiration I've needed to keep
focused on rescue, (burnt out!) so you and Possum have
had a ripple effect that will hel
I am sorry, I haven't been following this thread but caught the diatomaceous
warning. Hoping they still make this, but 1-800-flea busters out of FL. is my
favorite product to use. It's a little work, but I think I was over zealous
the first year. Third yr I used it, I was not so diligent, but
I would spay her also, I'm sorry to say. I don't like
it, neither do the vets, but I don't like the reality
of over population either. We just took a little one
from a mom who could not or would not feed her babies
- the other 2 siblings died. Next night, young tame
mother brought to animal cont
I was wondering this exact question tonight. Our
group has a pos kitten, about 6 mos, who IFA tested
pos 2 months ago. Any chance at all he will retest
IFA negative?
The poor kitten is in a kitty condo. It has a hammock
and he can look out a window but he so lonely, he
wimpers when he sees ano
Oh good lord, you poor thing. Poor mom cat! I'm not
an expert on these things which is why I joined this
list, but we've had positive and negative in the same
litter, and positive kittens revert to negative, and
had some negatives stay that way. Lots of love, good
food, supplements, maybe some
http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/info/releasing.htm
>From Neighborhood Cats. It's well written and helped
one of our hard headed vets understand why we don't
always want them to test. She actually got it, and
said thanks after she read it.
Janine
http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/info/releasing.htm
>From Neighborhood Cats. It's well written and helped
one of our hard headed vets understand why we don't
always want them to test. She actually got it, and
said thanks after she read it.
Janine
I fed my little Baby a raw diet until he went into a
home with leukemia cats. He came in as a tiny little
thing with horrible URI's and sucked that stuff up
like no tomorrow. Used Blakkatz.com or catinfo.org -
pretty much the same. Whole chicken thighs ground up
in grinder, plus supplements, for
I'm loosing a few too many right now also but for the
most part, they have been diagnosed with something not
terribly surprising, given their circumstances. But
similar, vague symptoms, I think, is another story.
One of our larger foster homes had a fire. For a few
years after, cats would sudd
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