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Dear Deborah, What a lousy way to start off as a Foster Mom. It isn't usually like that. Usually you get to play with wonderful little beings, and then send them to their Forever homes. It's never easy to let them go, but knowing that they will have new lives, and you can go on to help the next ones, it kind of balances out. Unfortunately, there don't seem to be any hard and fast rules for FeLV. From my research, It seems that while cats can test negative and yet still harbor the virus, when they DO test negative, they are not contagious. The problem is multi-faceted, though. In your case, wedon't know when the MomCat sero-coverted to positive. Was it during her stay with you? After she left you? If that, then the kittens have a good chance of never testing positive. It's also possible, in fact most likely,that the MomCat was exposed before she was taken into rescue. The incubation period for FeLV is variable, and that's the biggest problem. We just don't know what the time frames are. It's also possible for a cat to test negative, become positive (after incubation) and then recover completely. That can takeup 16 weeks, some sources say longer. From; http://abcd-vets.org/guidelines/guidelines_pdf/1201-FeLV_Guideline.pdf, when discussing positive yet healthy cats; "Cats testing positive may overcome viraemia after two to sixteen weeks - in rare cases even later. Therefore, every test-positive healthy cat should be separated and retested after several weeks or months;" So, it is very possible that they will be negative in 30 days, but they may be positive. The question is whether they will STAY positive. Or stay negative. Even if they become positive, and return to negative, it won't be clear whether they still harbor the virus, or have cleared it completely. This is no help, I know. I wish there were more I could tell you, but I'm struggling to understand it, myself. All the best, Margo -Original Message- From: Deborah AdamsSent: Jun 6, 2013 4:14 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member Hi all, I'm a new member of this group hoping to better understand FeLv and the situation that I'm in. Last month, I decided to foster kittens for my local humane society as a summer project with my 2 girls (age 7 and 10 years). We were given a momma cat and her 3 kittens who were about 4-5 weeks old, found as strays. All were initially tested for FeLv and came back negative (I don't know which test HS used.) After helping momma wean her kittens, I returned her to the shelter this past weekend. Yesterday she was retested for FeLV before her spay surgery and was positive. (HS checked both her blood and serum.) Today, I took the kittens back to HS for testing and they are negative for FeLV. I agreed to continue fostering them for 30 days and then they will be retested. How much hope do these kittens have? Is there any chance that they will continue to be negative for FeLV? I'm so stressed about all this. My kids are heart-broken. I feel like everything is going all wrong. First, they all got URI and one kitten got a persistent eye infection that took three different antibiotics until it finally cleared up. But her eye is all clouded over and she is probably blind in that eye. And now this FeLV scare. I don't know if I can handle fostering. Deborah Adams ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Deborah, First of all, thank you for fostering! You and your daughters provided an invaluable service for your local HS. I'm sorry your first fostering experience has been tainted by FeLV. Please understand that FeLV isn't an automatic death sentence though cats and kittens who are positive usually have a shorter life span. However, it doesn't mean their quality of life is horrible the entire time they are alive. Whether they live for days or months or years, FeLV+ cats and kittens can have fun, be crazy, play like there is no tomorrow and give tons of love. Testing kittens for FeLV can be troublesome, especially if they've been exposed to the virus. I work with several different rescues in the Los Angeles area and also have a FeLV+ cat and have had them in the past. Most rescues and vets will recommend testing the kittens once they have reached six months of age OR have been separated from an FeLV carrier for six months. False positives happen more frequently in kittens under 6 months of age so that is why they suggest testing when they hit the six month mark. As far as their chances of having FeLV, no one can say with certainty or give you probabilities. Some kittens get it while others don't. For instance, I've had a kitten that was rescued from a hoarder. This kitten was around three other litters for two months and around the mama cats. The kitten I brought home was FeLV+ but no other kittens ever tested positive nor did their mamas. As you can see, FeLV is a real crapshoot. I apologize I can't give you a more definitive answer. Most importantly, and I cannot stress this enough, is how important fostering is. I know your current experience is rough and you may feel you are not up to it. Whether these kittens end up with FeLV or not, your fostering them most likely saved their lives. Even if their lives are cut short by a FeLV related illness, they knew love and care and that is the most important part of fostering; every animal deserves to know love and safety and somebody has to love those FeLV kitties! Hopefully, they stay negative, find great homes and you choose to keep fostering. Once again, thanks for fostering. Best, -Amanda On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Deborah Adams auntiede...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all,** http://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/# I'm a new member of this group hoping to better understand FeLv and the situation that I'm in. Last month, I decided to foster kittens for my local humane society as a summer project with my 2 girls (age 7 and 10 years). We were given a momma cat and her 3 kittens who were about 4-5 weeks old, found as strays. All were initially tested for FeLv and came back negative (I don't know which test HS used.) After helping momma wean her kittens, I returned her to the shelter this past weekend. Yesterday she was retested for FeLV before her spay surgery and was positive. (HS checked both her blood and serum.) Today, I took the kittens back to HS for testing and they are negative for FeLV. I agreed to continue fostering them for 30 days and then they will be retested. How much hope do these kittens have? Is there any chance that they will continue to be negative for FeLV? I'm so stressed about all this. My kids are heart-broken. I feel like everything is going all wrong. First, they all got URI and one kitten got a persistent eye infection that took three different antibiotics until it finally cleared up. But her eye is all clouded over and she is probably blind in that eye. And now this FeLV scare. I don't know if I can handle fostering. Deborah Adams ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge Bertrand Russell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Marta, Unfortuntely euthanasia is the best option in some cases. For example if the cat who tested positive is a shelter cat. However there are several of us on this list who have FelV sanctuaries, and I am one of them. I have lost many kittens who has FelV pos. mothers but my older FelV cats often live symptom free for many years. For example I have two FelV + cats who are 5 years old. Lorrie in WV On 05-10, Marta Gasper wrote: Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue director in Fairbury, Nebraska. One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago also positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some disorders that'd make him hard to adopt. Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was FeLV+ and some time before he succumbed one of our foster kittens tested leuk +._ Our vet concluded he would have been infected when younger, he was tested after his uris kept returning; although we are no-kill and try to give them the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia is the best option. Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other than being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight stopped eating and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making gargling, squishy noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and said it looked good, mild gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be from further lesions/masses down his throath._ In a few days and coincidentally he's developed bald spots that bleed and dark spots on his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and fungal infections. Right now he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to eat again, I suggested interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and other problems that made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to administer it though because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows we're on a limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia alternative as Arlo won't get better. I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't know how much Interferon is right now etc. Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if the cat is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if and what cancer he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even try other treatments? And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo, what treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list Marta ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Sorry about all your problems with poor Arlo. Along with the vet's recommendations you might want to try L-lysine, which is an immune system stimulant, especially for fighting herpes virus. Good luck with Arlo. You're doing the best you can. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Marta Gasper gasper.ma...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:59 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] New member from Nebraska Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue director in Fairbury, Nebraska. One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago also positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some disorders that'd make him hard to adopt. Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was FeLV+ and some time before he succumbed one of our foster kittens tested leuk +._ Our vet concluded he would have been infected when younger, he was tested after his uris kept returning; although we are no-kill and try to give them the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia is the best option. Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other than being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight stopped eating and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making gargling, squishy noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and said it looked good, mild gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be from further lesions/masses down his throath._ In a few days and coincidentally he's developed bald spots that bleed and dark spots on his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and fungal infections. Right now he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to eat again, I suggested interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and other problems that made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to administer it though because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows we're on a limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia alternative as Arlo won't get better. I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't know how much Interferon is right now etc. Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if the cat is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if and what cancer he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even try other treatments? And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo, what treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list Marta ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Marta, Thanks for everything that you do for all of those cats, including Arlo. I'm not aware of any specific recommendation that treatments be discontinued or not applied at any certain stage of infection or progress. However, I'm not an expert or veterinarian. I have given my FeLV+ girl Transfer Factor and Liquid DMG fairly regularly. She has also been on interferon (five days on/five days off protocol) ever since she tested positive. All three are supposed to help boost or modulate the immune system. Interferon is the only thing I give that requires a prescription. I have no info on nebulizers. I'd forgotten about them until tonight. Had to Google to be reminded. Best wishes for you and Arlo, Lance On May 10, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Marta Gasper gasper.ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue director in Fairbury, Nebraska. One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago also positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some disorders that'd make him hard to adopt. Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was FeLV+ and some time before he succumbed one of our foster kittens tested leuk +._ Our vet concluded he would have been infected when younger, he was tested after his uris kept returning; although we are no-kill and try to give them the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia is the best option. Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other than being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight stopped eating and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making gargling, squishy noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and said it looked good, mild gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be from further lesions/masses down his throath._ In a few days and coincidentally he's developed bald spots that bleed and dark spots on his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and fungal infections. Right now he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to eat again, I suggested interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and other problems that made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to administer it though because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows we're on a limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia alternative as Arlo won't get better. I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't know how much Interferon is right now etc. Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if the cat is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if and what cancer he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even try other treatments? And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo, what treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list Marta ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Dear Marta, While searching for possible treatments, you may want to at least consider stopping using Metacam: http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/NewsEvents/CVMUpdates/ucm231254.htm I personally know several cats died because of Metacam before other diseases take them. There are some alternative pain medications that your vet should be able to provide you with. with my best, Catherine On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Marta Gasper gasper.ma...@yahoo.comwrote: Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue director in Fairbury, Nebraska. One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago also positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some disorders that'd make him hard to adopt. Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was FeLV+ and some time before he succumbed one of our foster kittens tested leuk +._ Our vet concluded he would have been infected when younger, he was tested after his uris kept returning; although we are no-kill and try to give them the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia is the best option. Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other than being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight stopped eating and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making gargling, squishy noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and said it looked good, mild gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be from further lesions/masses down his throath._ In a few days and coincidentally he's developed bald spots that bleed and dark spots on his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and fungal infections. Right now he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to eat again, I suggested interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and other problems that made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to administer it though because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows we're on a limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia alternative as Arlo won't get better. I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't know how much Interferon is right now etc. Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if the cat is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if and what cancer he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even try other treatments? And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo, what treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list Marta ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Welcome to the group, MaryAnn. You'll find a lot of knowledgable people here. Tell us about your cats. Lorrie in WV On 01-09, MaryAnn Riggs wrote: Hi all. My name is MaryAnn Riggs in southeastern Wisconsin. I've been reading comments for sometime, just haven't introduced myself yet. Is there anyone on this list from Wisconsin? thanks-mar ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Debbie - There is no way to tell is he has FeLV without a blood test.Was the 11 year old cat tested for FeLV? Just wondering how he would have gotten it if his previous test were negative, though it can take 3 months for the bloodwork to show a positive test. Prednisone depresses the immune system should only be used in conjunction with a specific medical diagnosis. Are his gums pink? He may be suffering from anemia. Is the stomatitis so bad he cannot eat? Was the Pred given to him for the Stomatitis? Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: danbin...@netzero.com danbin...@netzero.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:50 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] new member Boy, am I glad to find this website and group. I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV. He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago. I took him to the vet who was unable to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits. I was unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step. She decided, with the information that she had, that Buster had cholangiohepatitis. Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant) After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for 2 years. Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I described Buster she said she thought FeLV. She said if he had a liver disease, I would see jaundice. Buster does have a number of clinical signs: little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat, occasional eye problems. No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea. In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test which was negative. I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year old rescue into the home. All of my cats (3) are indoor only I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there any cats being treated only with prednisolone? I am not able to take Buster to the vet due to a number of reasons. After almost 3 years, he has taken a big turn for the worse. Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I don't think so, this time Thank you so much debbie buster 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27 Mom Reveals $3 Wrinkle Trick Angering Doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4ec3dc1abe4f10ffeest01duc ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Debbie Welcome to the group_albeit circumstances but thats how most of us got here_I agree with Beth. The symptoms you describe could be a number of diseases. No way to tell for sure if he has FeLV until he's been tested with a definitive test like an IFA, though in his case and given his age I'd say his former negative result is what it is. I wonder why the vet thought it could be FeLV, specially since he has no diarrea/soft stools, blood disorders(wich show as blodd in stool). I wouldn't give him pred unless it is just supportve care, it suppreses the inmune system, the last thing any cat needs. However if he has stomatitis I would. I've had and have FeLV+s cats. The one I've now is close to last stages, he's playful and animated but has a chronic URI, soft stools and bloody diahrrea, thrifty coat, sometimes he staggers, keeps getting sores, sneezes blood sometimes, that is because can't coagulate well, eats like a horse and hasn't gained an ounce. Well he has lately but my other cats would be basketballs if they ate like he does. Besides he tested twice + on the ELISA and comes from a household where most cats were FeLV+. A hoarding situation, very sad but at least he has a better life now tho very limited. Anyways I'd run a test first, to me I wouldn't jump to conclusions, stomatitis or other disorder sure could be. Don't put him on pred(steroids or glucocorticoids. M http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ --- On Wed, 11/16/11, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new member To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2011, 5:06 PM Debbie - There is no way to tell is he has FeLV without a blood test.Was the 11 year old cat tested for FeLV? Just wondering how he would have gotten it if his previous test were negative, though it can take 3 months for the bloodwork to show a positive test. Prednisone depresses the immune system should only be used in conjunction with a specific medical diagnosis. Are his gums pink? He may be suffering from anemia. Is the stomatitis so bad he cannot eat? Was the Pred given to him for the Stomatitis? Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: danbin...@netzero.com danbin...@netzero.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:50 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] new member Boy, am I glad to find this website and group. I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV. He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago. I took him to the vet who was unable to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits. I was unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step. She decided, with the information that she had, that Buster had cholangiohepatitis. Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant) After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for 2 years. Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I described Buster she said she thought FeLV. She said if he had a liver disease, I would see jaundice. Buster does have a number of clinical signs: little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat, occasional eye problems. No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea. In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test which was negative. I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year old rescue into the home. All of my cats (3) are indoor only I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there any cats being treated only with prednisolone? I am not able to take Buster to the vet due to a number of reasons. After almost 3 years, he has taken a big turn for the worse. Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I don't think so, this time Thank you so much debbie buster 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27 Mom Reveals $3 Wrinkle Trick Angering Doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4ec3dc1abe4f10ffeest01duc ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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A lot of vets think Stomatitis = FeLV, so that may be why she said she thought he had it. Only one of my FeLV cats ever got Stomatitis I had a negative cat that did have it. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new member Debbie Welcome to the group_albeit circumstances but thats how most of us got here_I agree with Beth. The symptoms you describe could be a number of diseases. No way to tell for sure if he has FeLV until he's been tested with a definitive test like an IFA, though in his case and given his age I'd say his former negative result is what it is. I wonder why the vet thought it could be FeLV, specially since he has no diarrea/soft stools, blood disorders(wich show as blodd in stool). I wouldn't give him pred unless it is just supportve care, it suppreses the inmune system, the last thing any cat needs. However if he has stomatitis I would. I've had and have FeLV+s cats. The one I've now is close to last stages, he's playful and animated but has a chronic URI, soft stools and bloody diahrrea, thrifty coat, sometimes he staggers, keeps getting sores, sneezes blood sometimes, that is because can't coagulate well, eats like a horse and hasn't gained an ounce. Well he has lately but my other cats would be basketballs if they ate like he does. Besides he tested twice + on the ELISA and comes from a household where most cats were FeLV+. A hoarding situation, very sad but at least he has a better life now tho very limited. Anyways I'd run a test first, to me I wouldn't jump to conclusions, stomatitis or other disorder sure could be. Don't put him on pred(steroids or glucocorticoids. M http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ --- On Wed, 11/16/11, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new member To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2011, 5:06 PM Debbie - There is no way to tell is he has FeLV without a blood test.Was the 11 year old cat tested for FeLV? Just wondering how he would have gotten it if his previous test were negative, though it can take 3 months for the bloodwork to show a positive test. Prednisone depresses the immune system should only be used in conjunction with a specific medical diagnosis. Are his gums pink? He may be suffering from anemia. Is the stomatitis so bad he cannot eat? Was the Pred given to him for the Stomatitis? Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: danbin...@netzero.com danbin...@netzero.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:50 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] new member Boy, am I glad to find this website and group. I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV. He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago. I took him to the vet who was unable to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits. I was unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step. She decided, with the information that she had, that Buster had cholangiohepatitis. Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant) After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for 2 years. Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I described Buster she said she thought FeLV. She said if he had a liver disease, I would see jaundice. Buster does have a number of clinical signs: little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat, occasional eye problems. No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea. In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test which was negative. I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year old rescue into the home. All of my cats (3) are indoor only I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there any cats being treated only with prednisolone? I am not able to take Buster to the vet due to a number of reasons. After almost 3 years, he has taken a big turn for the worse. Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I don't think so, this time Thank you so much debbie buster 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27 Mom Reveals $3 Wrinkle Trick Angering Doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4ec3dc1abe4f10ffeest01duc ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo
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Hi, everyone..I am in Mexico, and therefore not on the computer as often as at home. Re: prednisone - Sox, one of our five FIV+ cats, has severe stomatitis; he gets a prednisone injection about every three months; he also gets a few drops of DMG in his food every day. The vet says that he's doing really well, because normally cats would get a monthly injection. Sox sometimes exceeds the three months..once we notice that his stomatitis is bothering him (he won't eat), he gets another shot of prednisone. They all get CoQ10 to keep their gums in good shape (about 30-50mg daily), GNC Vegetarian formula because it comes in powder from in capsules, easy to mix into the food. I get 100mg caps, and divide them up. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marta Gasper Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new member Debbie Welcome to the group_albeit circumstances but thats how most of us got here_I agree with Beth. The symptoms you describe could be a number of diseases. No way to tell for sure if he has FeLV until he's been tested with a definitive test like an IFA, though in his case and given his age I'd say his former negative result is what it is. I wonder why the vet thought it could be FeLV, specially since he has no diarrea/soft stools, blood disorders(wich show as blodd in stool). I wouldn't give him pred unless it is just supportve care, it suppreses the inmune system, the last thing any cat needs. However if he has stomatitis I would. I've had and have FeLV+s cats. The one I've now is close to last stages, he's playful and animated but has a chronic URI, soft stools and bloody diahrrea, thrifty coat, sometimes he staggers, keeps getting sores, sneezes blood sometimes, that is because can't coagulate well, eats like a horse and hasn't gained an ounce. Well he has lately but my other cats would be basketballs if they ate like he does. Besides he tested twice + on the ELISA and comes from a household where most cats were FeLV+. A hoarding situation, very sad but at least he has a better life now tho very limited. Anyways I'd run a test first, to me I wouldn't jump to conclusions, stomatitis or other disorder sure could be. Don't put him on pred(steroids or glucocorticoids. M http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ --- On Wed, 11/16/11, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new member To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2011, 5:06 PM Debbie - There is no way to tell is he has FeLV without a blood test.Was the 11 year old cat tested for FeLV? Just wondering how he would have gotten it if his previous test were negative, though it can take 3 months for the bloodwork to show a positive test. Prednisone depresses the immune system should only be used in conjunction with a specific medical diagnosis. Are his gums pink? He may be suffering from anemia. Is the stomatitis so bad he cannot eat? Was the Pred given to him for the Stomatitis? Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Description: Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: danbin...@netzero.com danbin...@netzero.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:50 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] new member Boy, am I glad to find this website and group. I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV. He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago. I took him to the vet who was unable to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits. I was unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step. She decided, with the information that she had, that Buster had cholangiohepatitis. Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant) After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for 2 years. Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I described Buster she said she thought FeLV. She said if he had a liver disease, I would see jaundice. Buster does have a number of clinical signs: little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat, occasional eye problems. No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea. In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test which was negative. I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year old rescue into the home. All of my cats (3) are indoor only I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there any cats being treated only with prednisolone? I am not able to take Buster to the vet due to a number of reasons. After almost 3 years, he has taken a big turn for the worse. Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I don't think so, this time Thank you so much
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If no blood tests were taken, then there's no way the vet can tell what's wrong with Buster. At his age, he could have renal failure and /or hyperthyroidism, treatable. If it's his thyroid, I just found out that Felimazole can be gotten from Drs. Foster Smith very inexpensively; Tapazole and Methimazole are a lot more expensive anywhere else. There's no reason to do an ultrasound if no blood tests were taken to determine and to rule out anything. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of danbin...@netzero.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:51 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] new member Boy, am I glad to find this website and group. I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV. He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago. I took him to the vet who was unable to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits. I was unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step. She decided, with the information that she had, that Buster had cholangiohepatitis. Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant) After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for 2 years. Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I described Buster she said she thought FeLV. She said if he had a liver disease, I would see jaundice. Buster does have a number of clinical signs: little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat, occasional eye problems. No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea. In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test which was negative. I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year old rescue into the home. All of my cats (3) are indoor only I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there any cats being treated only with prednisolone? I am not able to take Buster to the vet due to a number of reasons. After almost 3 years, he has taken a big turn for the worse. Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I don't think so, this time Thank you so much debbie buster 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27 Mom Reveals $3 Wrinkle Trick Angering Doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4ec3dc1abe4f10ffeest01duc ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Many on this group usseother meds and ntural remdies for felv. I don't like predesone, had it during my cancer and it messes everything up. My felv's are in great shape, so are my negatives. I will pray for you and Buster and leave the advise up to th others who have dealt with this mjore. danbin...@netzero.com danbin...@netzero.com wrote: Boy, am I glad to find this website and group. I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV. He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago. I took him to the vet who was unable to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits. I was unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step. She decided, with the information that she had, that Buster had cholangiohepatitis. Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant) After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for 2 years. Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I described Buster she said she thought FeLV. She said if he had a liver disease, I would see jaundice. Buster does have a number of clinical signs: little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat, occasional eye problems. No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea. In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test which was negative. I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year old rescue into the home. All of my cats (3) are indoor only I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there any cats being treated only with prednisolone? I am not able to take Buster to the vet due to a number of reasons. After almost 3 years, he has taken a big turn for the worse. Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I don't think so, this time Thank you so much debbie buster 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27 Mom Reveals $3 Wrinkle Trick Angering Doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4ec3dc1abe4f10ffeest01duc ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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They are both so cute and look quite at home in your house. I'm glad you decided to keep both. I have 2 positives (may have caused the second by mixing too young too soon:( However, I have no regrets because they are best friends! Even though one has suffered from lymphoma (in remission for 15 months) the other has been asymptomatic and both are happy and relatively healthy.Good luck to you and your new family!On Nov 02, 2011, at 06:41 AM, Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu wrote:I meant to write, of course, that I was told that false POSITIVES are common but false negatives are virtually unheard of. My vet kind of shrugged when I told him that, though no one can give me a good account of why Dublin had a negative ELISA on his re-test when he is very clearly positive. Anyway, he's a lucky, lucky little kitty, as that false negative landed him in a home. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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On 04-11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Charles, they don't have to look for your house. They have a gossip line that is superior to ours. I think that once we are adopted by oe, we get an invisible tatoo on our forheads SUCKER You've got that right. Every stray in the area has found our house, and of course they were all unneutered or pregnant when they came. We now have 15 cats at home. HELP! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I try to keep my pride at 7. That is all I can afford on SS Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: On 04-11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Charles, they don't have to look for your house. They have a gossip line that is superior to ours. I think that once we are adopted by oe, we get an invisible tatoo on our forheads SUCKER You've got that right. Every stray in the area has found our house, and of course they were all unneutered or pregnant when they came. We now have 15 cats at home. HELP! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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We have more than average, but not enough to be newsworthy ;) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:19:03 -0500 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New Member I try to keep my pride at 7. That is all I can afford on SS Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: On 04-11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Charles, they don't have to look for your house. They have a gossip line that is superior to ours. I think that once we are adopted by oe, we get an invisible tatoo on our forheads SUCKER You've got that right. Every stray in the area has found our house, and of course they were all unneutered or pregnant when they came. We now have 15 cats at home. HELP! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Consider talking with Alley Cat Advocates or another TNR organization for help with spaying/neutering. Some vets will give multiple cat discounts. I supplement the cat food with very on sale whole chicken, ground beef etc. The people quality meat is cheaper per pound than cat food. Same with cheap tuna (my guys, including the inside cats, don't like the solid white). I've found buying good catfood at a farm store is sometimes cheaper than at the grocery or K-Mart/Wal-Mart type stores. Additionally, if you establish a relationship with the people at a feed store, you may be able to get samples or broken bags. Just ideas. Managing these guys can be difficultbut it is worth it. On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:19 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I try to keep my pride at 7. That is all I can afford on SS Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: On 04-11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Charles, they don't have to look for your house. They have a gossip line that is superior to ours. I think that once we are adopted by oe, we get an invisible tatoo on our forheads SUCKER You've got that right. Every stray in the area has found our house, and of course they were all unneutered or pregnant when they came. We now have 15 cats at home. HELP! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I supplement my dry food with an occassional can of mackeral for people. They don't eat so much of the meat as they drink the broth, so I add hot water each time I serve up some and this stretches the can to cover several feedings. Mackeral is the only fish they really like. I also get turkey thighs (less bones to deal with) and boil them up. Again they don't go so much for the meat as the broth so one package lasts several feedings. I also use some of the meat for turkey noodle soup for me so this stretches it longe MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: Consider talking with Alley Cat Advocates or another TNR organization for help with spaying/neutering. Some vets will give multiple cat discounts. I supplement the cat food with very on sale whole chicken, ground beef etc. The people quality meat is cheaper per pound than cat food. Same with cheap tuna (my guys, including the inside cats, don't like the solid white). I've found buying good catfood at a farm store is sometimes cheaper than at the grocery or K-Mart/Wal-Mart type stores. Additionally, if you establish a relationship with the people at a feed store, you may be able to get samples or broken bags. Just ideas. Managing these guys can be difficultbut it is worth it. On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:19 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I try to keep my pride at 7. That is all I can afford on SS Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: On 04-11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Charles, they don't have to look for your house. They have a gossip line that is superior to ours. I think that once we are adopted by oe, we get an invisible tatoo on our forheads SUCKER You've got that right. Every stray in the area has found our house, and of course they were all unneutered or pregnant when they came. We now have 15 cats at home. HELP! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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This is a bit late, but more power to you for taking on all these guys. I have 7 in my present pride and they are all inside at night and outside for an hour or two on nice days when I am home. May be some changes due soon if I get a job to help pay my bills. Will be interesting to see how they adjust to my being gone all day 5 days runningand they haveto be in all day. They may get on each other's nerves, in particular the 2 kittens (1yr old) who feel it is their job toaggrevate the older girls. Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, 'cats must look for house'. You are their Dr. House, or at least, you take them to him ;-) Good luck with all the Hello Kitties! You are doing a wonderful thing! Peggy 2011/4/6 katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com You go Charles! Sounds like you jumped in with both feet. This is a great place to get advice and just pass along information. FeLV + kitties can live good lives, some short, some long, some of them with few, if any symptoms. kind of like Typhoid Mary. I have one FeLV + that is about 12 - 13 years old. Don't know if she was always pos but has been for at least 5 years now and mixes inside/outside with all 8 other kitties and no problems. I vaccinate the negatives and deal with the positive as necessary - so far little needed thank goodness. Bless you and all who understand that humans are the reason there are so many kitties and dogs who need and deserve our help - and understanding that try to help. kat On 4/3/11, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Charles Ya-hoo! You have your hands full! Plenty of folks on here have great experience and can help guide you. I'm just good for moral support. Thanks for taking care of these little tigers...a job rewarded by their health and happiness. Carry on! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: Charles J Driscoll se...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:14 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member I am not sure how this board works, but this is my story. Can I answer on the board or do I have to send a e-mail each time. Over last summer, there was an abandoned foreclosure house next door to me. Well, in the hole of the fence, these 2 little faces kept popping their heads threw the hole. Turns out they were kittens born in March 2010 from a feral mother cat. I feed them over the summer and finally made friends with the kittens. I bought a small dog house they could eat without getting soaked in the rain, snow etc. I finally TRN them in Sept. One is a healthy Gray Tiger one which I call Hello. The other is a small black and white which I call Hello Kitty. they were both males. The black and white seemed to eat alot less, very skiddish, not as friendly. The tiger one is a big mouth meow, meow, hey here I am. They are so bonded, so close. The tiger one seems to mother the Hello Kitty on all terms, watching out for him, washing him. Well, over this bad snow, cold winter the black and white came down sick, I grabbed him FAST and set up a cage in the house. Took him to the vet, he was on antibodics. Turns out he is Positive with FeLV. Since I never took care of ferals in my life, this is all new to me and a bit overwhelming. So we now have the black and white kitten (11 months old now) in the house since Feb 14th and on: Prednisolone (1 pill a day) Chinese Herbs Immune enhancer (2 caps a day) EFA vitamin and mineral supplement (1/4 teaspoon mixed with food) Fellovite II (1/4 teaspoon or lick right from finger, which he does) I also have the tiger one in the house and he was vaccinated from the FeLV. so hopefully it works, cause I can not separate them at all. I am also feeding other ferals outside. (The cats must look for houseLOL) Steroid: Big male black and white, he looks like his ear is tipped Bobcat: pure black one shows up in the dark, in and out. Has a bunny rabbit tail V: gray male tiger, who's been missing since Long Island snow storm this Feb Red: Male just showed up the past 2 weeks, Friendly, but not neurterd The Mama CAT: caught her in Oct and TNR. She is doing well, and healthy and lives and eats by a women down the block. Any suggestion would be so helpful!! thank you reneeny ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Charles, they don't have to look for your house. They have a gossip line that is superior to ours. I think that once we are adopted by oe, we get an invisible tatoo on our forheads SUCKER katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote: You go Charles! Sounds like you jumped in with both feet. This is a great place to get advice and just pass along information. FeLV + kitties can live good lives, some short, some long, some of them with few, if any symptoms. kind of like Typhoid Mary. I have one FeLV + that is about 12 - 13 years old. Don't know if she was always pos but has been for at least 5 years now and mixes inside/outside with all 8 other kitties and no problems. I vaccinate the negatives and deal with the positive as necessary - so far little needed thank goodness. Bless you and all who understand that humans are the reason there are so many kitties and dogs who need and deserve our help - and understanding that try to help. kat On 4/3/11, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Charles Ya-hoo! You have your hands full! Plenty of folks on here have great experience and can help guide you. I'm just good for moral support. Thanks for taking care of these little tigers...a job rewarded by their health and happiness. Carry on! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: Charles J Driscoll se...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:14 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member I am not sure how this board works, but this is my story. Can I answer on the board or do I have to send a e-mail each time. Over last summer, there was an abandoned foreclosure house next door to me. Well, in the hole of the fence, these 2 little faces kept popping their heads threw the hole. Turns out they were kittens born in March 2010 from a feral mother cat. I feed them over the summer and finally made friends with the kittens. I bought a small dog house they could eat without getting soaked in the rain, snow etc. I finally TRN them in Sept. One is a healthy Gray Tiger one which I call Hello. The other is a small black and white which I call Hello Kitty. they were both males. The black and white seemed to eat alot less, very skiddish, not as friendly. The tiger one is a big mouth meow, meow, hey here I am. They are so bonded, so close. The tiger one seems to mother the Hello Kitty on all terms, watching out for him, washing him. Well, over this bad snow, cold winter the black and white came down sick, I grabbed him FAST and set up a cage in the house. Took him to the vet, he was on antibodics. Turns out he is Positive with FeLV. Since I never took care of ferals in my life, this is all new to me and a bit overwhelming. So we now have the black and white kitten (11 months old now) in the house since Feb 14th and on: Prednisolone (1 pill a day) Chinese Herbs Immune enhancer (2 caps a day) EFA vitamin and mineral supplement (1/4 teaspoon mixed with food) Fellovite II (1/4 teaspoon or lick right from finger, which he does) I also have the tiger one in the house and he was vaccinated from the FeLV. so hopefully it works, cause I can not separate them at all. I am also feeding other ferals outside. (The cats must look for houseLOL) Steroid: Big male black and white, he looks like his ear is tipped Bobcat: pure black one shows up in the dark, in and out. Has a bunny rabbit tail V: gray male tiger, who's been missing since Long Island snow storm this Feb Red: Male just showed up the past 2 weeks, Friendly, but not neurterd The Mama CAT: caught her in Oct and TNR. She is doing well, and healthy and lives and eats by a women down the block. Any suggestion would be so helpful!! thank you reneeny ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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You go Charles! Sounds like you jumped in with both feet. This is a great place to get advice and just pass along information. FeLV + kitties can live good lives, some short, some long, some of them with few, if any symptoms. kind of like Typhoid Mary. I have one FeLV + that is about 12 - 13 years old. Don't know if she was always pos but has been for at least 5 years now and mixes inside/outside with all 8 other kitties and no problems. I vaccinate the negatives and deal with the positive as necessary - so far little needed thank goodness. Bless you and all who understand that humans are the reason there are so many kitties and dogs who need and deserve our help - and understanding that try to help. kat On 4/3/11, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Charles Ya-hoo! You have your hands full! Plenty of folks on here have great experience and can help guide you. I'm just good for moral support. Thanks for taking care of these little tigers...a job rewarded by their health and happiness. Carry on! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: Charles J Driscoll se...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:14 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member I am not sure how this board works, but this is my story. Can I answer on the board or do I have to send a e-mail each time. Over last summer, there was an abandoned foreclosure house next door to me. Well, in the hole of the fence, these 2 little faces kept popping their heads threw the hole. Turns out they were kittens born in March 2010 from a feral mother cat. I feed them over the summer and finally made friends with the kittens. I bought a small dog house they could eat without getting soaked in the rain, snow etc. I finally TRN them in Sept. One is a healthy Gray Tiger one which I call Hello. The other is a small black and white which I call Hello Kitty. they were both males. The black and white seemed to eat alot less, very skiddish, not as friendly. The tiger one is a big mouth meow, meow, hey here I am. They are so bonded, so close. The tiger one seems to mother the Hello Kitty on all terms, watching out for him, washing him. Well, over this bad snow, cold winter the black and white came down sick, I grabbed him FAST and set up a cage in the house. Took him to the vet, he was on antibodics. Turns out he is Positive with FeLV. Since I never took care of ferals in my life, this is all new to me and a bit overwhelming. So we now have the black and white kitten (11 months old now) in the house since Feb 14th and on: Prednisolone (1 pill a day) Chinese Herbs Immune enhancer (2 caps a day) EFA vitamin and mineral supplement (1/4 teaspoon mixed with food) Fellovite II (1/4 teaspoon or lick right from finger, which he does) I also have the tiger one in the house and he was vaccinated from the FeLV. so hopefully it works, cause I can not separate them at all. I am also feeding other ferals outside. (The cats must look for houseLOL) Steroid: Big male black and white, he looks like his ear is tipped Bobcat: pure black one shows up in the dark, in and out. Has a bunny rabbit tail V: gray male tiger, who's been missing since Long Island snow storm this Feb Red: Male just showed up the past 2 weeks, Friendly, but not neurterd The Mama CAT: caught her in Oct and TNR. She is doing well, and healthy and lives and eats by a women down the block. Any suggestion would be so helpful!! thank you reneeny ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Lol, 'cats must look for house'. You are their Dr. House, or at least, you take them to him ;-) Good luck with all the Hello Kitties! You are doing a wonderful thing! Peggy 2011/4/6 katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com You go Charles! Sounds like you jumped in with both feet. This is a great place to get advice and just pass along information. FeLV + kitties can live good lives, some short, some long, some of them with few, if any symptoms. kind of like Typhoid Mary. I have one FeLV + that is about 12 - 13 years old. Don't know if she was always pos but has been for at least 5 years now and mixes inside/outside with all 8 other kitties and no problems. I vaccinate the negatives and deal with the positive as necessary - so far little needed thank goodness. Bless you and all who understand that humans are the reason there are so many kitties and dogs who need and deserve our help - and understanding that try to help. kat On 4/3/11, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Charles Ya-hoo! You have your hands full! Plenty of folks on here have great experience and can help guide you. I'm just good for moral support. Thanks for taking care of these little tigers...a job rewarded by their health and happiness. Carry on! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: Charles J Driscoll se...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:14 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member I am not sure how this board works, but this is my story. Can I answer on the board or do I have to send a e-mail each time. Over last summer, there was an abandoned foreclosure house next door to me. Well, in the hole of the fence, these 2 little faces kept popping their heads threw the hole. Turns out they were kittens born in March 2010 from a feral mother cat. I feed them over the summer and finally made friends with the kittens. I bought a small dog house they could eat without getting soaked in the rain, snow etc. I finally TRN them in Sept. One is a healthy Gray Tiger one which I call Hello. The other is a small black and white which I call Hello Kitty. they were both males. The black and white seemed to eat alot less, very skiddish, not as friendly. The tiger one is a big mouth meow, meow, hey here I am. They are so bonded, so close. The tiger one seems to mother the Hello Kitty on all terms, watching out for him, washing him. Well, over this bad snow, cold winter the black and white came down sick, I grabbed him FAST and set up a cage in the house. Took him to the vet, he was on antibodics. Turns out he is Positive with FeLV. Since I never took care of ferals in my life, this is all new to me and a bit overwhelming. So we now have the black and white kitten (11 months old now) in the house since Feb 14th and on: Prednisolone (1 pill a day) Chinese Herbs Immune enhancer (2 caps a day) EFA vitamin and mineral supplement (1/4 teaspoon mixed with food) Fellovite II (1/4 teaspoon or lick right from finger, which he does) I also have the tiger one in the house and he was vaccinated from the FeLV. so hopefully it works, cause I can not separate them at all. I am also feeding other ferals outside. (The cats must look for houseLOL) Steroid: Big male black and white, he looks like his ear is tipped Bobcat: pure black one shows up in the dark, in and out. Has a bunny rabbit tail V: gray male tiger, who's been missing since Long Island snow storm this Feb Red: Male just showed up the past 2 weeks, Friendly, but not neurterd The Mama CAT: caught her in Oct and TNR. She is doing well, and healthy and lives and eats by a women down the block. Any suggestion would be so helpful!! thank you reneeny ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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When you post or answer a post on the board, everyone gets it--so we've all gotten your post. Good for you for taking in these little guys! And for TNR as many of the others as you can. I have 1 pos 3 neg who have all lived together for years w. no problem. I've also taken in two kittens just before our big snow storm luckily, they are neg. Neg cats are vaccinated I've never had come pos. My Tucson is 13 years old, 17 lbs doing fine. But I did lose Romeo, a 10+former stray from lymphoma last year. Folks on this board have had a whole lot more experience than me but it seems the critical time is kittenhood early adolescence. How is Mr. Kitty doing? The pos are s susceptible to any sort of infection, URI, UTI, etc. I tend to take Tucson in to the vet if she's looking a little pt eaked (usually, for her, means she won't eat!). Some folks give Interferon as prev but I never have. Tucson is a big cuddler but can be difficult to medicate my Romeo would freak out if you ever had to hold him down. I feed them Wellness canned Blue Buffalo lite dry (and various treats-LOL). How are Hello Mr. Kitty enjoying indoor life! Bet they're thrilled to be in from the cold -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Charles J Driscoll Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 2:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member I am not sure how this board works, but this is my story. Can I answer on the board or do I have to send a e-mail each time. Over last summer, there was an abandoned foreclosure house next door to me. Well, in the hole of the fence, these 2 little faces kept popping their heads threw the hole. Turns out they were kittens born in March 2010 from a feral mother cat. I feed them over the summer and finally made friends with the kittens. I bought a small dog house they could eat without getting soaked in the rain, snow etc. I finally TRN them in Sept. One is a healthy Gray Tiger one which I call Hello. The other is a small black and white which I call Hello Kitty. they were both males. The black and white seemed to eat alot less, very skiddish, not as friendly. The tiger one is a big mouth meow, meow, hey here I am. They are so bonded, so close. The tiger one seems to mother the Hello Kitty on all terms, watching out for him, washing him. Well, over this bad snow, cold winter the black and white came down sick, I grabbed him FAST and set up a cage in the house. Took him to the vet, he was on antibodics. Turns out he is Positive with FeLV. Since I never took care of ferals in my life, this is all new to me and a bit overwhelming. So we now have the black and white kitten (11 months old now) in the house since Feb 14th and on: Prednisolone (1 pill a day) Chinese Herbs Immune enhancer (2 caps a day) EFA vitamin and mineral supplement (1/4 teaspoon mixed with food) Fellovite II (1/4 teaspoon or lick right from finger, which he does) I also have the tiger one in the house and he was vaccinated from the FeLV. so hopefully it works, cause I can not separate them at all. I am also feeding other ferals outside. (The cats must look for houseLOL) Steroid: Big male black and white, he looks like his ear is tipped Bobcat: pure black one shows up in the dark, in and out. Has a bunny rabbit tail V: gray male tiger, who's been missing since Long Island snow storm this Feb Red: Male just showed up the past 2 weeks, Friendly, but not neurterd The Mama CAT: caught her in Oct and TNR. She is doing well, and healthy and lives and eats by a women down the block. Any suggestion would be so helpful!! thank you reneeny ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Copper came to me from the pine thicket 2 weeks before Thomas and helped Thomas decide to be a cared for kitten. I was advised to keep them separated for 6 + weeks in case one was sick. Well, that didn't fly at all. They came from the same place and were almost the same age and ..well, I decided to deal with whatever came up and let them be together. They were separated for about 4 hours once and that won't happen again. I even make sure they are in the same cage if I have to leave them at the vets'---neuter, dental. All of this is to say that you are right in not separating them. The stress would probably kill both of them. Thomas locked himself in the Jeep once and Copper was hollering his head off because he couldn't get to his brother. He was far more upset than Thomas. MHO: reduce stress as much as you cantry Rescue Remedy and Feliway. Even though they are together, there has been a major life- style change. Feed the highest quality food that you can. Listen to this group re supplements. I like colostrum for my ferals. I get it at the local feed store. Dixie (FeLV+) liked--almost craved high vitamin C veggies finely chopped and mixed with various foods I gave her and I know one holistic vet who highly recommends vitamin C supplements. On that note, I have a wonderful holistic vet and know another (Louisville, KY area but do phone consultations). I take any critter who comes into my life as a house guest to Betty Bosewell. She helped me, along with the wonderful vets at Middletown Animal Clinic, give Dixie the absolutely best life a little cat could have and she left this life very easy compared to so many I hear about. And she left without the help of the vets she truly hated I credit Betty and the MAC vets with helping two very tiny feral kittens grow into the wonderful cats they are todaythey are napping in their chair as I type. Keeping them together is the right thing. Bless you for caring and loving these darlings. You will never regret it. On Apr 3, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Charles J Driscoll wrote: I am not sure how this board works, but this is my story. Can I answer on the board or do I have to send a e-mail each time. Over last summer, there was an abandoned foreclosure house next door to me. Well, in the hole of the fence, these 2 little faces kept popping their heads threw the hole. Turns out they were kittens born in March 2010 from a feral mother cat. I feed them over the summer and finally made friends with the kittens. I bought a small dog house they could eat without getting soaked in the rain, snow etc. I finally TRN them in Sept. One is a healthy Gray Tiger one which I call Hello. The other is a small black and white which I call Hello Kitty. they were both males. The black and white seemed to eat alot less, very skiddish, not as friendly. The tiger one is a big mouth meow, meow, hey here I am. They are so bonded, so close. The tiger one seems to mother the Hello Kitty on all terms, watching out for him, washing him. Well, over this bad snow, cold winter the black and white came down sick, I grabbed him FAST and set up a cage in the house. Took him to the vet, he was on antibodics. Turns out he is Positive with FeLV. Since I never took care of ferals in my life, this is all new to me and a bit overwhelming. So we now have the black and white kitten (11 months old now) in the house since Feb 14th and on: Prednisolone (1 pill a day) Chinese Herbs Immune enhancer (2 caps a day) EFA vitamin and mineral supplement (1/4 teaspoon mixed with food) Fellovite II (1/4 teaspoon or lick right from finger, which he does) I also have the tiger one in the house and he was vaccinated from the FeLV. so hopefully it works, cause I can not separate them at all. I am also feeding other ferals outside. (The cats must look for houseLOL) Steroid: Big male black and white, he looks like his ear is tipped Bobcat: pure black one shows up in the dark, in and out. Has a bunny rabbit tail V: gray male tiger, who's been missing since Long Island snow storm this Feb Red: Male just showed up the past 2 weeks, Friendly, but not neurterd The Mama CAT: caught her in Oct and TNR. She is doing well, and healthy and lives and eats by a women down the block. Any suggestion would be so helpful!! thank you reneeny ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Charles Ya-hoo! You have your hands full! Plenty of folks on here have great experience and can help guide you. I'm just good for moral support. Thanks for taking care of these little tigers...a job rewarded by their health and happiness. Carry on! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: Charles J Driscoll se...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:14 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member I am not sure how this board works, but this is my story. Can I answer on the board or do I have to send a e-mail each time. Over last summer, there was an abandoned foreclosure house next door to me. Well, in the hole of the fence, these 2 little faces kept popping their heads threw the hole. Turns out they were kittens born in March 2010 from a feral mother cat. I feed them over the summer and finally made friends with the kittens. I bought a small dog house they could eat without getting soaked in the rain, snow etc. I finally TRN them in Sept. One is a healthy Gray Tiger one which I call Hello. The other is a small black and white which I call Hello Kitty. they were both males. The black and white seemed to eat alot less, very skiddish, not as friendly. The tiger one is a big mouth meow, meow, hey here I am. They are so bonded, so close. The tiger one seems to mother the Hello Kitty on all terms, watching out for him, washing him. Well, over this bad snow, cold winter the black and white came down sick, I grabbed him FAST and set up a cage in the house. Took him to the vet, he was on antibodics. Turns out he is Positive with FeLV. Since I never took care of ferals in my life, this is all new to me and a bit overwhelming. So we now have the black and white kitten (11 months old now) in the house since Feb 14th and on: Prednisolone (1 pill a day) Chinese Herbs Immune enhancer (2 caps a day) EFA vitamin and mineral supplement (1/4 teaspoon mixed with food) Fellovite II (1/4 teaspoon or lick right from finger, which he does) I also have the tiger one in the house and he was vaccinated from the FeLV. so hopefully it works, cause I can not separate them at all. I am also feeding other ferals outside. (The cats must look for houseLOL) Steroid: Big male black and white, he looks like his ear is tipped Bobcat: pure black one shows up in the dark, in and out. Has a bunny rabbit tail V: gray male tiger, who's been missing since Long Island snow storm this Feb Red: Male just showed up the past 2 weeks, Friendly, but not neurterd The Mama CAT: caught her in Oct and TNR. She is doing well, and healthy and lives and eats by a women down the block. Any suggestion would be so helpful!! thank you reneeny ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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It sounds like you're doing everything you can. My first positive went through 2 very bad periods and recovered to live to 7 or 8 years old. I hope Tora pulls through. take care, tonya amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi , my kitten ' 'Tora' aged about 5 months was diagnosed with FeLV yesterday, he was sick since last friday which I mistaked for food poisoning! That time he had antibiotics and interferon injection and sub fluids which helped him alot, he had swollen lypm node on one side of throat which got much better, but on Tuesday he started getting ill again, quiet ect, so yesterday we tested for FeLV and he come out full possitive. I live in Japan and they suggested interefon injections for the next five days and sub fluids with vitamins and antibiotics, since yesterday he hasn`t been eating, has been dribbling sometimes and looks like he has inflamation of the intestines, when we touch him, he cries in pain. My husband is an accupunturist and we are doing that too and I asking the advice of a homeopath too. Is there anything else that I can try? Will he have a chance to pull through? It`s not the first time I`ve had FeLV possitive cats, I had two before, one lived a long normal life and the other pulled through the first bout of sickness like Tora, maybe not as bad, but I remember she didn`t eat for days too! But I lost her to Lymphoma cancer a year later. Any advice help, information would be truely appreciated!! hugs and purrs Amanda and Tora. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Amanda, my FeLV+ kitties haven't crashed yet so I don't know the odds of pulling through. My Sissy did have swollen lymph nodes that improved after a round of a/b, I do know a sick kitty needs fluids and food. You can blend most pate style canned foods with a little liquid until it is the consistency of a thick milk shake and syringe feed Tora. There is a Yahoo Assist Feeding group with more info. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ You could also try meat baby food (no onions or garlic) if that is available in Japan. Until you are able to get a handle on his problems it is important to get food into him. Sick kitties actually need more calories than healthy kitties. There are meds for pain like buprenorphine (Buprenex) that are very effective. Please do not use Metacam (meloxicam) which can lead to kidney failure in some cats, Hugs to Tora Sharyl --- On Fri, 10/24/08, amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] New member, advice needed please! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 6:27 AM Hi , my kitten ' 'Tora' aged about 5 months was diagnosed with FeLV yesterday, he was sick since last friday which I mistaked for food poisoning! That time he had antibiotics and interferon injection and sub fluids which helped him alot, he had swollen lypm node on one side of throat which got much better, but on Tuesday he started getting ill again, quiet ect, so yesterday we tested for FeLV and he come out full possitive. I live in Japan and they suggested interefon injections for the next five days and sub fluids with vitamins and antibiotics, since yesterday he hasn`t been eating, has been dribbling sometimes and looks like he has inflamation of the intestines, when we touch him, he cries in pain. My husband is an accupunturist and we are doing that too and I asking the advice of a homeopath too. Is there anything else that I can try? Will he have a chance to pull through? It`s not the first time I`ve had FeLV possitive cats, I had two before, one lived a long normal life and the other pulled through the first bout of sickness like Tora, maybe not as bad, but I remember she didn`t eat for days too! But I lost her to Lymphoma cancer a year later. Any advice help, information would be truely appreciated!! hugs and purrs Amanda and Tora. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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amanda, since you are using vets, acupuncture and holistic, that is about all we can do. try praying. God can work miracles if that is in His plan. at least, He can give you the strength to get thru this. dorlis amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi , my kitten ' 'Tora' aged about 5 months was diagnosed with FeLV yesterday, he was sick since last friday which I mistaked for food poisoning! That time he had antibiotics and interferon injection and sub fluids which helped him alot, he had swollen lypm node on one side of throat which got much better, but on Tuesday he started getting ill again, quiet ect, so yesterday we tested for FeLV and he come out full possitive. I live in Japan and they suggested interefon injections for the next five days and sub fluids with vitamins and antibiotics, since yesterday he hasn`t been eating, has been dribbling sometimes and looks like he has inflamation of the intestines, when we touch him, he cries in pain. My husband is an accupunturist and we are doing that too and I asking the advice of a homeopath too. Is there anything else that I can try? Will he have a chance to pull through? It`s not the first time I`ve had FeLV possitive cats, I had two before, one lived a long normal life and the other pulled through the first bout of sickness like Tora, maybe not as bad, but I remember she didn`t eat for days too! But I lost her to Lymphoma cancer a year later. Any advice help, information would be truely appreciated!! hugs and purrs Amanda and Tora. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Of course he has a chance. Please remember none of us are guaranteed any specific time on this earth. All we can hope/pray for is to be cared for and loved...Tora has that. Please do not focus on what may happen but care for Tora and enjoy his love. I do know what I am talking about. I learned from the Royal Princess Kitty Katt and my Junior Partner, Dixie Louise Doodle Katt. The lessons are hard but very important. You are doing wonderfully. Tora is cared for and knows lovewhat more can any of us ask for? Blessings to you all and, most of all, peace. On Oct 24, 2008, at 8:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: amanda, since you are using vets, acupuncture and holistic, that is about all we can do. try praying. God can work miracles if that is in His plan. at least, He can give you the strength to get thru this. dorlis amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi , my kitten ' 'Tora' aged about 5 months was diagnosed with FeLV yesterday, he was sick since last friday which I mistaked for food poisoning! That time he had antibiotics and interferon injection and sub fluids which helped him alot, he had swollen lypm node on one side of throat which got much better, but on Tuesday he started getting ill again, quiet ect, so yesterday we tested for FeLV and he come out full possitive. I live in Japan and they suggested interefon injections for the next five days and sub fluids with vitamins and antibiotics, since yesterday he hasn`t been eating, has been dribbling sometimes and looks like he has inflamation of the intestines, when we touch him, he cries in pain. My husband is an accupunturist and we are doing that too and I asking the advice of a homeopath too. Is there anything else that I can try? Will he have a chance to pull through? It`s not the first time I`ve had FeLV possitive cats, I had two before, one lived a long normal life and the other pulled through the first bout of sickness like Tora, maybe not as bad, but I remember she didn`t eat for days too! But I lost her to Lymphoma cancer a year later. Any advice help, information would be truely appreciated!! hugs and purrs Amanda and Tora. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I disagree. I think the the vaccine is more effective than doctors give it credit for. I have had so many negative (vaccinated) cats exposed to positives, and have never had it transferred to one of them. tonya Sabrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lorrie, Don't give up hope! I just posted a couple of days ago about the two kitties I rescued who were positive just were retested and are now negative!! Of course I don't know if what I did had anything to do with changing their status, but if you are interested in the diet I fed them and the supplements I gave them, contact me offlist. Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy even now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat clinic for a number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of leukemia she saw, most of the ones who died had been vaccinated for the disease. Sabrina www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com www.LovingGraceRescue.org Orange County, CA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi, Lorrie -- Glad you found this group. You'll get lots of great advice here. Firstly, don't beat yourself up too much -- it's too bad about the kitties you put to sleep, but nobody knew much about FeLV back then, it would have been universally considered to be a death sentence anyway. Now, there is so much hope for your positive kittens! Admittedly, your vet was probably trying to let you know the worst of what you're facing, but if all she can offer is grimness, you might want to consider finding another vet, at least for these babies. The fact that she didn't suggest euthanasia is a point in her favor, but the kittens would be better served by someone on the cutting edge of FeLV. Or, if she's willing to work with you, you can print off stuff from the files on the felineleukemia.org website and help her expand her knowledge base. ;-) I assume the kittens are not showing signs of disease. If they aren't, depending on their age, they may yet shake off the virus. But if they don't, there are still ways to keep them asymptomatic. FeLV *isn't* an automatic death sentence these days. You'll get lots of advice here on diet and supplements, and (along with some heartache) some nice success stories. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:34 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] New member Hello Everyone, I'm a new member to the FelV group, but not new to cat rescue and TNR, which I've been doing for a long time. For years I didn't test for FelV, because back in the 1980's I tested all of my cats for it, and two were positive, so I put had them put down to protect my other cats. I've felt horribly guilty ever since, and because of this I quit testing. I started testing again about 4 years ago when I began taking care of a feral colony I discovered in our small town of Terra Alta, WV. There were always kittens I couldn't find homes for, and if I kept them, or kept any strays that were dumped at our house I felt I should have them tested.. None of them were ever positive. I guess I was just lucky, but now my luck has run out. Several kittens in a litter I rescued have tested positive for FelV. I intend to learn everything I can about FelV, and meanwhile I'll vaccinate my negative cats with the FelV vaccine. In the 80's it wasn't too effective, so I hope it's improved I'd appreciate input on the efficacy of the vaccine. I understand FelV is contagious, but not highly contagious. From what I've read it is apparently spread through blood (bites) food dishes, water bowls and mutual grooming. The virus apparently doesn't live long outside the cat's body, but in even a few hours other cats could be infected. The vet didn't tell me to euthanize the positive kittens, but she did give me a grim outlook :-( I'd appreciate hearing from any of you in regard to this. Lorrie in Terra Alta, WV ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Lorrie, Don't give up hope! I just posted a couple of days ago about the two kitties I rescued who were positive just were retested and are now negative!! Of course I don't know if what I did had anything to do with changing their status, but if you are interested in the diet I fed them and the supplements I gave them, contact me offlist. Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy even now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat clinic for a number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of leukemia she saw, most of the ones who died had been vaccinated for the disease. Sabrina www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com www.LovingGraceRescue.org Orange County, CA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Interesting, everything I read says the efficacy of at least 3 of the current vaccines is 85-90%, plus most adult cats are pretty immune naturally. If the majority of the cases that died had been vaccinated I would have to wonder if one of several possibilities might be true; they were already positive when vaccinated; the vaccine protocol wasn't properly followed; or their tests weren't properly done. I would also think that a vet clinic that saw 2000 cases over even a 10 year period was one very busy clinic, it has only been a very recent part of normal testing and still is not for many clinics. I have three positive cats that are kept in their own area but I still vaccinate all of my negatives even though I think the chance of infection from my positives is pretty low. Gary - Original Message - From: Sabrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New member Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy even now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat clinic for a number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of leukemia she saw, most of the ones who died had been vaccinated for the disease. Sabrina ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Jennifer, I just wanted you to know that Dixie sent me a second little one from the same pine thicket and surrounded by the same hawks, fox, dogs, etc. Apparently she really thought she had EVERYTHINGcertainly enough to loan to two babies who needed homes. On Jul 30, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Jennifer wrote: That's such a touching story...brought tears to my eyes. What is your new kitty's name? Hopefully she's with you for a very long time :) Jennifer ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:59 PM, Marylyn wrote: Dixie came to me as a grown throw away who had been on her own for a long time. She found her way to my Mom's where she hung out with the ferals who came for food, water and shelter. For three years and 12 days she had everything a little cat could want. She became the owner of a farm in rural Ky with a large sunroom, window sills, deer, turkey and windows everywhere; Christmas trees that stayed up for months just because she liked to sleep under them; a large bed with pillows and dolls...everything a little cat could want, even things she didn't know about when she came into my life. She had the best regular and holist medical care available from the day I found out that she was FeLV+ and was so wonderfully healthy that I believed she had beaten it. She remained healthy until a couple of days before she left this world. When she left she was beside me, where she was always the safest, and in a Jeep that had taken her on many great adventures (she loved to travel between the farm and a home in Louisville). I have no regrets at all about having this wonderful little girl in my life. She taught me so much. Now, a month after she left, she has sent me a tiny kitten from the same pine thicket she came from. Apparently she thought this little one, who was alone just as she had been, should have everything too. There are no certainities in life. It sounds like you have a good grasp on the situation. This group has people knowledgeable in supplements that can help strengthen all your cats. Please listen to them and your heart. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Welcome to the list. I hope your original cats test negative, but it sounds like Ash is in good shape. If he's made it over a year his chances of getting sick are much less! tonya Jennifer Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone. My name is Jennifer and I live in New Jersey. My one year old male kitty, Ash, was just diagnosed with FeLV yesterday. I also have two other cats, Morrison and Isobel, and they've been living with Ash for a year (I've had him since birth). He's blind in one eye and has developmental problems in his back area, but other than the obvious (his illness), he's a very happy, content, sweet and playful boy! Very talkative as well, especially in the morning! He's all black with tiny white hairs throughout his coat that you need to really look to see. He eats like a pig and right now, seems healthy. He's getting fixed in a month (that's the soonest my vet could get him in) and my other two cats are being tested for FeLV in two weeks and if they test negative (which I really hope is the case), they're getting vaccinated. My oldest, Morrison, was supposedly vaccinated two years ago, but they have no record of it at my vet's office, though they told me he was vaccinated when I took him for his shots two years ago. I am looking forward to chatting with you all and I really wish all the best for you and your kitties! PS - can we share pictures of our cats on here? - Jennifer (and Ash too!) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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and by this time, the other two have been well exposed, and it''s sort of a moot point--the odds are very high that they'll be negative, and if not, will it make a huge difference, other than in the way you treat them medically? will you love them differently? i doubt that you will--it'll just give you information on what things to look for. FeLV+ cats are just cats, until and if the virus is activated. good food, good love, as stressfree an environment as possible--these are the things we know of that can help keep that from happening. look into the supplements that are well researched and documented, FeLVs get sick just as normal cats do, and get treated and get well, without it always having to have to be related to the FeLV--just breathe, and learn, and enjoy every minute you have with all of them: no living thing comes with a guarantee, after all. MC On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:17 AM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the list. I hope your original cats test negative, but it sounds like Ash is in good shape. If he's made it over a year his chances of getting sick are much less! tonya *Jennifer Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Hi everyone. My name is Jennifer and I live in New Jersey. My one year old male kitty, Ash, was just diagnosed with FeLV yesterday. I also have two other cats, Morrison and Isobel, and they've been living with Ash for a year (I've had him since birth). He's blind in one eye and has developmental problems in his back area, but other than the obvious (his illness), he's a very happy, content, sweet and playful boy! Very talkative as well, especially in the morning! He's all black with tiny white hairs throughout his coat that you need to really look to see. He eats like a pig and right now, seems healthy. He's getting fixed in a month (that's the soonest my vet could get him in) and my other two cats are being tested for FeLV in two weeks and if they test negative (which I really hope is the case), they're getting vaccinated. My oldest, Morrison, was supposedly vaccinated two years ago, but they have no record of it at my vet's office, though they told me he was vaccinated when I took him for his shots two years ago. I am looking forward to chatting with you all and I really wish all the best for you and your kitties! PS - can we share pictures of our cats on here? - Jennifer (and Ash too!) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks :) I really hope my other test negative, but if they don't, I will love them just the same. Jennifer ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) --- On Thu, 7/31/08, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New member here To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 5:31 PM and by this time, the other two have been well exposed, and it''s sort of a moot point--the odds are very high that they'll be negative, and if not, will it make a huge difference, other than in the way you treat them medically? will you love them differently? i doubt that you will--it'll just give you information on what things to look for. FeLV+ cats are just cats, until and if the virus is activated. good food, good love, as stressfree an environment as possible--these are the things we know of that can help keep that from happening. look into the supplements that are well researched and documented, FeLVs get sick just as normal cats do, and get treated and get well, without it always having to have to be related to the FeLV--just breathe, and learn, and enjoy every minute you have with all of them: no living thing comes with a guarantee, after all. MC On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:17 AM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the list. I hope your original cats test negative, but it sounds like Ash is in good shape. If he's made it over a year his chances of getting sick are much less! tonya Jennifer Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone. My name is Jennifer and I live in New Jersey. My one year old male kitty, Ash, was just diagnosed with FeLV yesterday. I also have two other cats, Morrison and Isobel, and they've been living with Ash for a year (I've had him since birth). He's blind in one eye and has developmental problems in his back area, but other than the obvious (his illness), he's a very happy, content, sweet and playful boy! Very talkative as well, especially in the morning! He's all black with tiny white hairs throughout his coat that you need to really look to see. He eats like a pig and right now, seems healthy. He's getting fixed in a month (that's the soonest my vet could get him in) and my other two cats are being tested for FeLV in two weeks and if they test negative (which I really hope is the case), they're getting vaccinated. My oldest, Morrison, was supposedly vaccinated two years ago, but they have no record of it at my vet's office, though they told me he was vaccinated when I took him for his shots two years ago. I am looking forward to chatting with you all and I really wish all the best for you and your kitties! PS - can we share pictures of our cats on here? - Jennifer (and Ash too!) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Jennifer, I am glad that you are taking such good care of Ash. I don't get the time to post to the list often, but am willing to take telephone calls for advise. I am a 1974 Ohio State University grad in Animal Science and have my Masters work in Animal Nutrition and Physiology...with over 30 plus years experience and additional study as an Animal Scientist (Physiology/Pathology) and Nutritionist. I have worked with many FeLV cats. I now work mainly holistically, but also advise the use of traditional veterinary medications along with the natural. I can work with your veterinarian if you so wish. If you, or your veterinarian, would like to give me a call, I can answer any questions you may have and hopefully help you on your way to better health with your kitty. Let me know the best time to reach you by phone if I am not available when you call. There is no charge for my services or suggestions to anyone on this list.My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] My other contact info is following. Looking forward to speaking with you. (This invitation also goes out to anyone one this list that is in need of help.) P.S. below, please read. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.karengriffith.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you would put 'Old Tom' in your prayers, it would be appreciated. He was 25 years old 'I knew this for sure as I had him for 20 years', and had judged him at at least 10 by his teeth when I castrated him and did his teeth. He died in the lightning storm we had here last week. He was FeLV positive for the last 10 yrs, and had endured other severe problems, but was in great health at his 'untimely' demise. You all will think I'm crazy for being upset at losing him this way, but it was storming too severely to go out in the lightning storm and hail to get him in...I had just let him outside 15 minutes before the storm suddenly rolled in. There were over 100mph straight line winds, many huge trees down, power lines, structural damage, etc. I miss him terribly. I have 25 cats I am taking care of, but 'The Old Man' was special. He was a tough, proud old guy. There are a lot of good stories about him. (I started to tell a few, but decided to leave it at that). I just miss him. The neighbor lost 2 horses in the storm as wellall 70 head of my horses came through OK. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Lynn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:13 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] New member here Hi everyone. My name is Jennifer and I live in New Jersey. My one year old male kitty, Ash, was just diagnosed with FeLV yesterday. I also have two other cats, Morrison and Isobel, and they've been living with Ash for a year (I've had him since birth). He's blind in one eye and has developmental problems in his back area, but other than the obvious (his illness), he's a very happy, content, sweet and playful boy! Very talkative as well, especially in the morning! He's all black with tiny white hairs throughout his coat that you need to really look to see. He eats like a pig and right now, seems healthy. He's getting fixed in a month (that's the soonest my vet could get him in) and my other two cats are being tested for FeLV in two weeks and if they test negative (which I really hope is the case), they're getting vaccinated. My oldest, Morrison, was supposedly vaccinated two years ago, but they have no record of it at my vet's office, though they told me he was vaccinated when I took him for his shots two years ago. I am looking forward to chatting with you all and I really wish all the best for you and your kitties! PS - can we share pictures of our cats on here? - Jennifer (and Ash too!) -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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On Jul 30, 2008, at 6:26 AM, Marylyn wrote: It doesn't matter how old they are when they leave.it breaks your heart. However, he left loved and cared for. The comfort in that. And he added so much to your life. On Jul 30, 2008, at 2:20 AM, Karen Griffith wrote: Jennifer, I am glad that you are taking such good care of Ash. I don't get the time to post to the list often, but am willing to take telephone calls for advise. I am a 1974 Ohio State University grad in Animal Science and have my Masters work in Animal Nutrition and Physiology...with over 30 plus years experience and additional study as an Animal Scientist (Physiology/Pathology) and Nutritionist. I have worked with many FeLV cats. I now work mainly holistically, but also advise the use of traditional veterinary medications along with the natural. I can work with your veterinarian if you so wish. If you, or your veterinarian, would like to give me a call, I can answer any questions you may have and hopefully help you on your way to better health with your kitty. Let me know the best time to reach you by phone if I am not available when you call. There is no charge for my services or suggestions to anyone on this list.My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . My other contact info is following. Looking forward to speaking with you. (This invitation also goes out to anyone one this list that is in need of help.) P.S. below, please read. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.karengriffith.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you would put 'Old Tom' in your prayers, it would be appreciated. He was 25 years old 'I knew this for sure as I had him for 20 years', and had judged him at at least10 by his teeth when I castrated him and did his teeth. He died in the lightning storm we had here last week. He was FeLV positive for the last 10 yrs, and had endured other severe problems, but was in great health at his 'untimely' demise. You all will think I'm crazy for being upset at losing him this way, but it was storming too severely to go out in the lightning storm and hail to get him in...I had just let him outside 15 minutes before the storm suddenly rolled in. There were over 100mph straight line winds, many huge trees down, power lines, structural damage, etc. I miss him terribly. I have 25 cats I am taking care of, but 'The Old Man' was special. He was a tough, proud old guy. There are a lot of good stories about him. (I started to tell a few, but decided to leave it at that). I just miss him. The neighbor lost 2 horses in the storm as wellall 70 head of my horses came through OK. - ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Karen, Old Tom is definitely in our prayers. It sounds like he had a wonderful life with you for these last 20 yrs. Glad all your other critters made it through the storm OK. Sharyl Sissy Rocket and Daisy's Babies If you would put 'Old Tom' in your prayers, it would be appreciated. He was 25 years old 'I knew this for sure as I had him for 20 years', and had judged him at at least 10 by his teeth when I castrated him and did his teeth. He died in the lightning storm we had here last week. He was FeLV positive for the last 10 yrs, and had endured other severe problems, but was in great health at his 'untimely' demise. You all will think I'm crazy for being upset at losing him this way, but it was storming too severely to go out in the lightning storm and hail to get him in...I had just let him outside 15 minutes before the storm suddenly rolled in. There were over 100mph straight line winds, many huge trees down, power lines, structural damage, etc. I miss him terribly. I have 25 cats I am taking care of, but 'The Old Man' was special. He was a tough, proud old guy. There are a lot of good stories about him. (I started to tell a few, but decided to leave it at that). I just miss him. The neighbor lost 2 horses in the storm as wellall 70 head of my horses came through OK. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Karen I am so sorry to hear of your precious Tom leaving this world.It is a tribute to you that he lived such a long life. I know you will miss him Hugs Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That's such a touching story...brought tears to my eyes. What is your new kitty's name? Hopefully she's with you for a very long time :) Jennifer ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New member here To: Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 5:31 AM On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:59 PM, Marylyn wrote: Dixie came to me as a grown throw away who had been on her own for a long time. She found her way to my Mom's where she hung out with the ferals who came for food, water and shelter. For three years and 12 days she had everything a little cat could want. She became the owner of a farm in rural Ky with a large sunroom, window sills, deer, turkey and windows everywhere; Christmas trees that stayed up for months just because she liked to sleep under them; a large bed with pillows and dolls...everything a little cat could want, even things she didn't know about when she came into my life. She had the best regular and holist medical care available from the day I found out that she was FeLV+ and was so wonderfully healthy that I believed she had beaten it. She remained healthy until a couple of days before she left this world. When she left she was beside me, where she was always the safest, and in a Jeep that had taken her on many great adventures (she loved to travel between the farm and a home in Louisville).. I have no regrets at all about having this wonderful little girl in my life. She taught me so much. Now, a month after she left, she has sent me a tiny kitten from the same pine thicket she came from. Apparently she thought this little one, who was alone just as she had been, should have everything too. There are no certainities in life. It sounds like you have a good grasp on the situation. This group has people knowledgeable in supplements that can help strengthen all your cats. Please listen to them and your heart. On Jul 29, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Jennifer Lynn wrote: Thank you for responding. I am going to concentrate on keeping Ash (and my other kitties) as healthy as possible. I've been feeding them better food for months now...Eukenuba Naturals. They really like it and it helps with their urine and feces (they don't smell as much!). I keep their litter box clean at all times and they always have fresh, cold water. I am very observant of them and I try to give them all the love possible. I am just going to deal with this as it comes and treat Ash like a normal cat (like I've been doing his whole life) and keep on giving him all the love I can :) I am sorry to hear about your Dixie :( She's in kitty heaven now and nothing can hurt her :) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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She doesn't have a name yet. The right one will come. However, she got a new brother this morning, Another little one came out of the pine thicket a few days ago. He was extremely weak two days ago. I started feeding him chicken breast Monday and Tuesday. That livened him up a little. I put this little one in her carrier on the patio. He came to investigate. I suspect the conversation revolved around food, toys, food, dry sleeping quarters, food, kind words, foodHe was not skittish at all and came within about 3 inches of getting in the carrier by himself. He got close enough that I could safely get him in a carrier and haul him to the vets'. They may be litter mates. They are both too young to test for FeLV but, to be honest, even if they test + (and I am sure they won't) they will have EVERYYTHHHINGGG all their days. I just have to adjust to having kittens. I have never raised any.I always found them homes and kept older cats. :))) At the first opportunity both will see a holistic vet, Dr. Betty Boswelll, in Louisville for a general checkup. I am going to start both on various supplements, especially colostrum, just to aid in their development. They, like all the critters who have blessed my life, have had a rough start. Again, please listen to the people on this list and take what seems right for you and yours. Some believe in holistic/alternative care, some believe in conventional care, some, like me, believe in a combination. Some believe in communicators, others don't. It is a good variety and the range of experiences is impressive. Pick your path but do not be afraid to veer from it. Just make your decisions with both your heart and your head. It worked with the Royal Princess Kitty Katt and it worked with Dixie Louise. It will work with these two and it will work for you. On Jul 30, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Jennifer wrote: That's such a touching story...brought tears to my eyes. What is your new kitty's name? Hopefully she's with you for a very long time :) Jennifer ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New member here To: Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 5:31 AM On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:59 PM, Marylyn wrote: Dixie came to me as a grown throw away who had been on her own for a long time. She found her way to my Mom's where she hung out with the ferals who came for food, water and shelter. For three years and 12 days she had everything a little cat could want. She became the owner of a farm in rural Ky with a large sunroom, window sills, deer, turkey and windows everywhere; Christmas trees that stayed up for months just because she liked to sleep under them; a large bed with pillows and dolls...everything a little cat could want, even things she didn't know about when she came into my life. She had the best regular and holist medical care available from the day I found out that she was FeLV+ and was so wonderfully healthy that I believed she had beaten it. She remained healthy until a couple of days before she left this world. When she left she was beside me, where she was always the safest, and in a Jeep that had taken her on many great adventures (she loved to travel between the farm and a home in Louisville). I have no regrets at all about having this wonderful little girl in my life. She taught me so much. Now, a month after she left, she has sent me a tiny kitten from the same pine thicket she came from. Apparently she thought this little one, who was alone just as she had been, should have everything too. There are no certainities in life. It sounds like you have a good grasp on the situation. This group has people knowledgeable in supplements that can help strengthen all your cats. Please listen to them and your heart. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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This is a hard one but remember that there is nothing certain in this world and do not obsess over the diagnosis. Concentrate on the wonderful friends you have and enjoy your lives together. Give all the cats the best food you can and give them the supplements that seem right to you. If you have a holistic/alternative vet available, consider checking her out. I had a little over three wonderful years with Dixie. She wasn't sick until a few days before she left this world. I hope you enjoy a lot more years than I had but I would never, ever give up one minute with Dixie Louise...not for anything. The time I had with this wonderful being was worth any price. Listen to the members of this group. They are great. Good luck and all the blessings possible to you and all your little friends. On Jul 29, 2008, at 7:13 PM, Jennifer Lynn wrote: Hi everyone. My name is Jennifer and I live in New Jersey. My one year old male kitty, Ash, was just diagnosed with FeLV yesterday. I also have two other cats, Morrison and Isobel, and they've been living with Ash for a year (I've had him since birth). He's blind in one eye and has developmental problems in his back area, but other than the obvious (his illness), he's a very happy, content, sweet and playful boy! Very talkative as well, especially in the morning! He's all black with tiny white hairs throughout his coat that you need to really look to see. He eats like a pig and right now, seems healthy. He's getting fixed in a month (that's the soonest my vet could get him in) and my other two cats are being tested for FeLV in two weeks and if they test negative (which I really hope is the case), they're getting vaccinated. My oldest, Morrison, was supposedly vaccinated two years ago, but they have no record of it at my vet's office, though they told me he was vaccinated when I took him for his shots two years ago. I am looking forward to chatting with you all and I really wish all the best for you and your kitties! PS - can we share pictures of our cats on here? - Jennifer (and Ash too!) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you for responding. I am going to concentrate on keeping Ash (and my other kitties) as healthy as possible. I've been feeding them better food for months now...Eukenuba Naturals. They really like it and it helps with their urine and feces (they don't smell as much!). I keep their litter box clean at all times and they always have fresh, cold water. I am very observant of them and I try to give them all the love possible. I am just going to deal with this as it comes and treat Ash like a normal cat (like I've been doing his whole life) and keep on giving him all the love I can :) I am sorry to hear about your Dixie :( She's in kitty heaven now and nothing can hurt her :) --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New member here To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 12:26 AM This is a hard one but remember that there is nothing certain in this world and do not obsess over the diagnosis. Concentrate on the wonderful friends you have and enjoy your lives together. Give all the cats the best food you can and give them the supplements that seem right to you. If you have a holistic/alternative vet available, consider checking her out. I had a little over three wonderful years with Dixie. She wasn't sick until a few days before she left this world. I hope you enjoy a lot more years than I had but I would never, ever give up one minute with Dixie Louise...not for anything. The time I had with this wonderful being was worth any price. Listen to the members of this group. They are great. Good luck and all the blessings possible to you and all your little friends.. On Jul 29, 2008, at 7:13 PM, Jennifer Lynn wrote: Hi everyone. My name is Jennifer and I live in New Jersey. My one year old male kitty, Ash, was just diagnosed with FeLV yesterday. I also have two other cats, Morrison and Isobel, and they've been living with Ash for a year (I've had him since birth). He's blind in one eye and has developmental problems in his back area, but other than the obvious (his illness), he's a very happy, content, sweet and playful boy! Very talkative as well, especially in the morning! He's all black with tiny white hairs throughout his coat that you need to really look to see. He eats like a pig and right now, seems healthy. He's getting fixed in a month (that's the soonest my vet could get him in) and my other two cats are being tested for FeLV in two weeks and if they test negative (which I really hope is the case), they're getting vaccinated. My oldest, Morrison, was supposedly vaccinated two years ago, but they have no record of it at my vet's office, though they told me he was vaccinated when I took him for his shots two years ago. I am looking forward to chatting with you all and I really wish all the best for you and your kitties! PS - can we share pictures of our cats on here? - Jennifer (and Ash too!) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:59 PM, Marylyn wrote: Dixie came to me as a grown throw away who had been on her own for a long time. She found her way to my Mom's where she hung out with the ferals who came for food, water and shelter. For three years and 12 days she had everything a little cat could want. She became the owner of a farm in rural Ky with a large sunroom, window sills, deer, turkey and windows everywhere; Christmas trees that stayed up for months just because she liked to sleep under them; a large bed with pillows and dolls...everything a little cat could want, even things she didn't know about when she came into my life. She had the best regular and holist medical care available from the day I found out that she was FeLV+ and was so wonderfully healthy that I believed she had beaten it. She remained healthy until a couple of days before she left this world. When she left she was beside me, where she was always the safest, and in a Jeep that had taken her on many great adventures (she loved to travel between the farm and a home in Louisville). I have no regrets at all about having this wonderful little girl in my life. She taught me so much. Now, a month after she left, she has sent me a tiny kitten from the same pine thicket she came from. Apparently she thought this little one, who was alone just as she had been, should have everything too. There are no certainities in life. It sounds like you have a good grasp on the situation. This group has people knowledgeable in supplements that can help strengthen all your cats. Please listen to them and your heart. On Jul 29, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Jennifer Lynn wrote: Thank you for responding. I am going to concentrate on keeping Ash (and my other kitties) as healthy as possible. I've been feeding them better food for months now...Eukenuba Naturals. They really like it and it helps with their urine and feces (they don't smell as much!). I keep their litter box clean at all times and they always have fresh, cold water. I am very observant of them and I try to give them all the love possible. I am just going to deal with this as it comes and treat Ash like a normal cat (like I've been doing his whole life) and keep on giving him all the love I can :) I am sorry to hear about your Dixie :( She's in kitty heaven now and nothing can hurt her :) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Welcome, you will find this group very helpful. If he is FIV not FeLV then you are better off. FIV cats live long lives with some health issues. FIV is mostly spread through bites. So as long as he is neutered and does not fight you should be able to mix him assuming he has FIV and not FeLV. Good nutrition is important in either case feed the best you can afford, reduce stress and love him. There is a great FIV group in the yahoo groups. it is FIVhealthscience you may want to join that group as well Sally On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 1:58 PM, April and Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I just wanted to introduce myself and my FIV+ Boy MM. This whole FIV thing is very new to us and we would love any advice about it. MM was a stray. My neighbor started feeding him and when thy moved we took over. When we decided to move we took him with us. Having more room we wanted to make him part of our rag tag crew. We kept him separate from the other cats we have and got him tested. That's when we got the sad news. We waited a year and got him retested and he is still positive. But we still want to bring him into the house(he's in a camper right now). I would love to hear about anyone experiences with this and what steps to take to keep everyone safe. Thanks! PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Is he felv (leukemia) positive or fiv positive? Welcome to the group! t April and Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I just wanted to introduce myself and my FIV+ Boy MM. This whole FIV thing is very new to us and we would love any advice about it. MM was a stray. My neighbor started feeding him and when thy moved we took over. When we decided to move we took him with us. Having more room we wanted to make him part of our rag tag crew. We kept him separate from the other cats we have and got him tested. That's when we got the sad news. We waited a year and got him retested and he is still positive. But we still want to bring him into the house(he's in a camper right now). I would love to hear about anyone experiences with this and what steps to take to keep everyone safe. Thanks! PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org