[Finale] Re: OT (Mac): Installing Flash Player

2005-07-29 Thread Rich Caldwell
I'm a little late on this one. Good thing that opensubscriber archive is up, so I can read the previous posts (shsu.edu is down at the moment)! I was curious about the issue Andrew had, so a few days ago I installed Flash 7, but didn't see any problems... until tonight, when repairing

[Finale] DO NOT INSTALL FINALE 2006-MAC!

2005-07-29 Thread Arkady
GOOD LUCK to Finale Developers on FIXING THIS!!! At MakeMusic Forum and saw this: --- IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE YOU INSTALL FINALE 2006 FOR MACINTOSH! Due to a problem in the Finale installer, IMPORTANT USER FILES MAY BE DELETED FROM YOUR MACINTOSH COMPUTER

Re: [Finale] FinMac2k5, OSX and third party fonts

2005-07-29 Thread Claudio Pompili
At 9:38 PM -0500 27/7/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Rich Caldwell: I've been lightly following this Sibelius font discussion, and felt I should chime in that a year or so ago I was playing around with the Opus font Funny you should mention Opus because I've used it over the years under OS9 and

Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Proofing Request

2005-07-29 Thread Eric Fiedler
David, Have just done intensive spot checking on your files — who has time to listen to _whole_ pieces by Couperin these days? ;-) Apart from the slight distortion you mentioned, all your files sounded fine to me (Mac OS 10.3.9, listening with Safari's built-in MP3 player) Eric

Re: [Finale] Helsinki font

2005-07-29 Thread Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account
David Fenton wrote: Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote: It's Makemusic's fault that the Opus font doesn't work anyway, as they limited which properties of fonts may be used in Finale (OS X). Care to elaborate on *that* accusation? I promise I won't tell Sibelius. Well, I'll just

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic shipping replacement install discs for F2006 (Mac)

2005-07-29 Thread dhbailey
David Toub wrote: I give MakeMusic some credit: they have sent out an e-mail notifying users of the error and how to prevent it (remove the MakeMusic folder from ~/Library/Application Support before installing Finale 2006 for the Mac), and are shipping out replacement discs to those of us who

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2006 first impressions

2005-07-29 Thread dhbailey
Brian Williams wrote: Darcy wrote: Fin2k6 is IMO very significant. It's not just GPO, it's Studio View, the mixer, the improved Human Playback, etc -- these are all very big changes -- plus the switch to CoreGraphics on the Mac side. Of course, if you don't care about playback, then these

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic shipping replacement install discs for F2006 (Mac)

2005-07-29 Thread dhbailey
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 08:25 PM 07/28/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: Here is the message from Coda (although all registered Mac users should have already received it): Seems they really should send this message (and the new discs) to everyone who has already ordered 2006, regardless of

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic shipping replacement install discs for F2006 (Mac)

2005-07-29 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: Aaron, For all I know, they have done so. Any Windows users who preordered 2k6 get this email? I preordered, my copy should arrive today, I have received no such e-mail. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2006 first impressions

2005-07-29 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/28/2005 05:43 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Now, anti-aliasing, no the other hand, is a completely different animal. There should be a choice there for non-ClearType anti- aliasing, though I don't know what it is (and don't have an XP system to check). Anti-aliasing has been supported in

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 28 Jul 2005 at 18:25, Eric Dannewitz wrote: It did say on the update page that it was on DVD. You can get it on CDRoms for a little extra $$$. But, you know, you could get a DVD drive for about $20, so, why not just go get one? Well, for one, DVD drive support

Re: [Finale] Re: Cleartype [was: Fin2006 first impressions]

2005-07-29 Thread dhbailey
Richard Yates wrote: [quoting me, unattributed:] And ClearType really only has an effect with LCD displays -- that's what it was designed for. So, you really shouldn't use ClearType for anti-aliasing unless you're using an LCD display. Not so. I had not heard of ClearType in XP Display

Re: [Finale] Finale 2006 and Forza

2005-07-29 Thread dhbailey
Rick Neal wrote: Has anyone gotten Finale 2006 to work with Forza? I keep getting an error saying that Forza 18 beta 4 is not supported in this version of Finale, please obtain a newer version from vendor. I wonder if it's because I am using the beta version instead of 17c or if an updated

Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Proofing Request

2005-07-29 Thread dhbailey
Eric Fiedler wrote: David, Have just done intensive spot checking on your files — who has time to listen to _whole_ pieces by Couperin these days? ;-) Apart from the slight distortion you mentioned, all your files sounded fine to me (Mac OS 10.3.9, listening with Safari's built-in MP3

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/29/2005 06:28 AM, dhbailey wrote: Wow -- I never knew that! When I installed WinXPpro(SP1 which I have since upgraded to service pack 2) on my desktop, I had a CDrw drive and a DVDrom drive. They both worked excellently after I installed WinXP and required no extra drivers to be

Re: [Finale] Re: Cleartype [was: Fin2006 first impressions]

2005-07-29 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/29/2005 06:34 AM, dhbailey wrote: Wow, I just tried it on my 19 Viewsonic monitor (resolution set to 1280x960) and Cleartype made things muddier and more difficult to read -- setting it back to Standard made them clearer again. I tried it on my 21 NEC running at 1600x1200 and could see no

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread dhbailey
Phil Daley wrote: At 7/29/2005 06:28 AM, dhbailey wrote: Wow -- I never knew that! When I installed WinXPpro(SP1 which I have since upgraded to service pack 2) on my desktop, I had a CDrw drive and a DVDrom drive. They both worked excellently after I installed WinXP and required no

Re: [Finale] Garritan Ambience question

2005-07-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:16 PM 07/28/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: On Mac, it's pretty clear -- there's a Factory Preset pull-down menu at the top of the dialog box. Aaron, are you saying that box is missing in Windows? Yes, that seems to be true. I've put a screenshot up at

RE: [Finale] Garritan Ambience question

2005-07-29 Thread ronan
On the version I got with GPO, there's a drop down list on the title bar of the Ambiance control. On the version that came with Finale, there is no title bar--hence no presets anywhere that I can find. Ron Ronald J Brown PO Box 138 Newboro ON K0G 1P0 (613) 272-3181 http://www.RonaldJBrown.com

RE: [Finale] Garritan Ambience question

2005-07-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:43 AM 07/29/2005, ronan wrote: On the version I got with GPO, there's a drop down list on the title bar of the Ambiance control. On the version that came with Finale, there is no title bar--hence no presets anywhere that I can find. Yes, confirmed by WinSupport. Aaron.

Re: [Finale] Garritan Ambience question

2005-07-29 Thread dhbailey
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 08:43 AM 07/29/2005, ronan wrote: On the version I got with GPO, there's a drop down list on the title bar of the Ambiance control. On the version that came with Finale, there is no title bar--hence no presets anywhere that I can find. Yes, confirmed by WinSupport.

[Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Anybody have success playing click tracks while using GPO? This doesn't seem to work for me, which makes it impossible to use Hyperscribe with GPO. Is there any practical way to convert an older score to use GPO? I read the documentation on this and the procedure is truly horrendous. It

Re: [Finale] FinMac2k5, OSX and third party fonts

2005-07-29 Thread Claudio Pompili
Title: Re: [Finale] FinMac2k5, OSX and third party fonts At 5:32 AM -0500 29/7/05, Matthew Hindson wrote: Message: 43 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:46:14 +1000 From: Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] Helsinki font Well, I'll just quote a passage from the

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Gerald Berg
An hour! Should I be so lucky. A month is more like it. Jerry On 29-Jul-05, at 9:35 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Anybody have success playing click tracks while using GPO? This doesn't seem to work for me, which makes it impossible to use Hyperscribe with GPO. Is there any practical way

RE: [Finale] Adjusting lyrics back to default position

2005-07-29 Thread Fiskum, Steve
Title: RE: [Finale] Adjusting lyrics back to default position Hello David, You can either: 1. With Adjust syllables checked click on the note so the handle appears, highlight this handle and hit clear on your keyboard. -or- 2. Go to Plugin menu LyricsClear Lyric Positioning... Hope

Re: [Finale] Garritan Ambience question

2005-07-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:28 AM 07/29/2005, dhbailey wrote: Was there any indication that this would be fixed in an interim patch? Yes. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 29, 2005, at 9:35 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Anybody have success playing click tracks while using GPO? This doesn't seem to work for me, which makes it impossible to use Hyperscribe with GPO. Is there any practical way to convert an older score to use GPO? I read the

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Gerald Berg wrote: An hour! Should I be so lucky. A month is more like it. Jerry I meant per track. :) Really, that is about the crappiest integration I have seen in the past 15 years. It took me 20 minutes just to register the GPO feature. The GPO website is pushing the frontiers of

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Christopher Smith wrote: I think the best way is to copy the old score into a newly-created GPO-friendly template. Obviously, there would be WAY too many tweaks to make it look good, too, so it would just be for playback. For the expressions to playback, you would have to delete all the

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 29, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: When the sounds work, they are nice, but one can achieve nearly the same results with a decent set of sound fonts in a Soundblaster Live card. I couldn't address that, as I am on a Mac. I haven't spent enough time with this new

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 29 Jul 2005, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: For the expressions to playback, you would have to delete all the expressions that were imported into the template one by one, subsituting the ones that DO playback that are native to the template, which is what would take the time.

Re: [Finale] OT Centaur

2005-07-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:48 AM 07/29/2005, dennis c. wrote: But there's also a digital Centaur (and probably several) taken from Bruce Rogers' original typeface, and different from the digital Jenson Oh, yes. And you're right that the slanted hyphen seems to be peculiar to Jenson -- at least, the Centaur I have

Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Proofing Request

2005-07-29 Thread Godofredo Romero
I listened to the first two of them (I'm on Mac) and found -heard- nothing that could be defined as glitches, what I did notice is that in some passages the stressing in the pronunciation of words with s by the sopranos leaves some sort of almost imperceptible trailing behind - like a very

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 29, 2005, at 11:02 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 29 Jul 2005, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: For the expressions to playback, you would have to delete all the expressions that were imported into the template one by one, subsituting the ones that DO playback that are native

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Exactly. I think the person who originally said it was full of it. Just because they see all the problems, doesn't mean that everything is problematic. Whatever. I've yet to have any issues with CD/DVD drives and Windows XP. dhbailey wrote: Wow -- I never knew that! When I installed

[Finale] RE: Problem installing MusicXML.dll with Finale 2006 Windows

2005-07-29 Thread Michael Good
Hi Paul, That error message is misleading. Reboot your machine and all should be well. If not, please report back and mention which version of Windows you are using. Best regards, Michael Good Recordare LLC www.recordare.com ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-29 Thread A-NO-NE Music
David W. Fenton / 2005/07/28 / 06:47 PM wrote: I'm sure they tested the shipping installer. But the kind of problem exhibited is one that is not going to be detected on most testbed machines. Not on this case. This bug is manifested only if you had previous Finale version installed, and is

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-29 Thread Stephen Peters
A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This bug is manifested only if you had previous Finale version installed, and is 100% reproducible. This means they have no test scenario of installing over previous Finale version. Actually, I'm sure they did in fact test that. From descriptions by

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 29 Jul 2005, at 12:09 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: And dynamics? Tempo markings? Are they handled automatically, too? They were handled automatically in 2k5 as well (provided you have Optimized for GPO checked). 2k6 has an auto-detect option for GPO, making it unnecessary to change

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Darcy James Argue wrote: On 29 Jul 2005, at 12:09 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: And dynamics? Tempo markings? Are they handled automatically, too? They were handled automatically in 2k5 as well (provided you have Optimized for GPO checked). 2k6 has an auto-detect option for GPO, making

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Gerald Berg
There is a clave sound file. Jerry On 29-Jul-05, at 1:58 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: On 29 Jul 2005, at 12:09 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: And dynamics? Tempo markings? Are they handled automatically, too? They were handled automatically in 2k5 as well (provided

Re: [Finale] OT (Mac): Installing Flash Player

2005-07-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Andrew Stiller schrieb: OK, I did that. Flash Player 7 still won't install, surprise surprise, and still tells me I lack sufficient permissions. Someone wanna take my question seriously now? Ok, I am taking you seriously, and I know that your work depends on your computer running

[Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-29 Thread Randolph Peters
The good news about Finale (Mac) 2k6 is that playing GPO through the AU/VST option is much more efficient than running GPO Studio. I took the same file and the same sounds to run my test. GPO Studio (no reverb) stuttered a few times whereas the same sounds run through the built-in AU option

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-29 Thread dhbailey
Stephen Peters wrote: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This bug is manifested only if you had previous Finale version installed, and is 100% reproducible. This means they have no test scenario of installing over previous Finale version. Actually, I'm sure they did in fact test

[Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-29 Thread dhbailey
Well, my copy arrived, and installed, and eventually got GPO registered and Finale registered. Can anybody explain why soundfont instruments playback at one volume while Kontakt instruments playback so much louder? With all the volume controls set to the same? Can anybody explain why the

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Ok ... so I'd like to hear someone else confirm that the GPO sounds are no better at all than standard soundfonts. True? No? What's the concensus? Dean On Jul 29, 2005, at 1:58 PM, dhbailey wrote: Well, my copy arrived, and installed, and eventually got GPO registered and Finale

Re: [Finale] Adjusting lyrics back to default position

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 8:42, dennis c. wrote: David W. Fenton écrit: Once you've adjusted lyrics positioning vertically, is there some way to clear that positioning? I just realized that I could fix the problem by reversing the stem direction and not have to nudge the lyrics up vertically, and

Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Proofing Request

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 11:22, Eric Fiedler wrote: Have just done intensive spot checking on your files — who has time to listen to _whole_ pieces by Couperin these days? ;-) Apart from the slight distortion you mentioned, all your files sounded fine to me (Mac OS 10.3.9, listening with Safari's

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Um, GPO sounds a lot better overall. I'm a little disappointed that Smart Music doesn't use the GPO yet. I'd love to ditch the lame piano it uses in favor of the Steinway in GPO. Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Ok ... so I'd like to hear someone else confirm that the GPO sounds are no better at

Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Proofing Request

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 6:24, dhbailey wrote: Richard Yates wrote: Only the first listed file seems to actually be there but it plays back just fine. I just checked and the other files are indeed there, at least at this time (6:24amEST, Friday). I suspect the problem was browser-specific

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 6:28, dhbailey wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: On 28 Jul 2005 at 18:25, Eric Dannewitz wrote: It did say on the update page that it was on DVD. You can get it on CDRoms for a little extra $$$. But, you know, you could get a DVD drive for about $20, so, why not just

Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Proofing Request

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 6:39, dhbailey wrote: Eric Fiedler wrote: David, Have just done intensive spot checking on your files — who has time to listen to _whole_ pieces by Couperin these days? ;-) Apart from the slight distortion you mentioned, all your files sounded fine to me (Mac OS

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 6:40, Phil Daley wrote: At 7/29/2005 06:28 AM, dhbailey wrote: Wow -- I never knew that! When I installed WinXPpro(SP1 which I have since upgraded to service pack 2) on my desktop, I had a CDrw drive and a DVDrom drive. They both worked excellently after I

[Finale] FinMac 2k6 Jazz Text Font Problems?

2005-07-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
So I received my 2006 update. I open a file, and anything that used the Jazz Text font is messed up. If I start a NEW document, I can't get Jazz Text font to work either. Yes, I rebooted, and installed everything. What the heck is going on? The other fonts and music stuff seems to work so

RE: [Finale] Adjusting lyrics back to default position

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 9:15, Fiskum, Steve wrote: You can either: 1. With Adjust syllables checked click on the note so the handle appears, highlight this handle and hit clear on your keyboard. -or- 2. Go to Plugin menu LyricsClear Lyric Positioning... That's great! Glad it's already there. I

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account
Darcy James Argue wrote: However, one annoyance is that if you have a Fin2k4 or 2k5 file with expressions that *are* defined for keyswitching during playback, you must set the playback options to None for Finale 2k6 (or, at least, the ones Human Playback recognizes). This can get a bit

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 11:02, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 29 Jul 2005, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: For the expressions to playback, you would have to delete all the expressions that were imported into the template one by one, subsituting the ones that DO playback that are native

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 9:15, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Exactly. I think the person who originally said it was full of it. Just because they see all the problems, doesn't mean that everything is problematic. Whatever. I've yet to have any issues with CD/DVD drives and Windows XP. Um, I support PC

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2006 installer WARNING!

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 12:41, A-NO-NE Music wrote: David W. Fenton / 2005/07/28 / 06:47 PM wrote: I'm sure they tested the shipping installer. But the kind of problem exhibited is one that is not going to be detected on most testbed machines. Not on this case. This bug is manifested only if

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 14:45, Randolph Peters wrote: The bad news is that you can't get MIDI at the same time as using the AU instrument option. Why this is so is beyond me. Perhaps with enough vocal demand this will be added in future versions. It is very maddening though. This kind of comment

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Its an Audio Unit. Go look it up on Apple.com. It's not the same thing as MIDI. David W. Fenton wrote: This kind of comment confuses me enormously. Isn't GPO being driven by MIDI data? Don't you really mean that you can't drive but the one synthesizer at a time if you're using GPO?

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Look, thats all well and nice, but I still stand by what I said. I don't think Windows XP has any problems at all with a drive that one can buy third party. You can talk the tech talk, but who cares? So what if you do it for a living? How many of us are NOT going to use the default setup?

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-29 Thread Randolph Peters
On 29 Jul 2005 at 14:45, Randolph Peters wrote: The bad news is that you can't get MIDI at the same time as using the AU instrument option. Why this is so is beyond me. Perhaps with enough vocal demand this will be added in future versions. It is very maddening though. David W. Fenton

Re: [Finale] Is it just me?

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 15:48, Eric Dannewitz wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: Um, I support PC users for a living. I see a *lot* more PCs than any of you who aren't doing the same thing will do, of different makes, models and levels of performance. Look, thats all well and nice, but I still stand

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 15:46, Eric Dannewitz wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: This kind of comment confuses me enormously. Isn't GPO being driven by MIDI data? Don't you really mean that you can't drive but the one synthesizer at a time if you're using GPO? Its an Audio Unit. Go look it up

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Ok ... so I'd like to hear someone else confirm that the GPO sounds are no better at all than standard soundfonts. True? No? What's the concensus? I won't say they're no better, but I surely don't understand the fuss unless you are using Finale strictly as a

[Finale] TAN - What printer to buy?

2005-07-29 Thread Paul Witney
HI, I know this topic has been around before, but I wanted to get opinions as to what is the best printer to buy for Finale scores? I have Finale 2005, and am using windows XP. Thank you in advance ! Paul Witney www.paulwitney.com

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Jazz Text Font Problems?

2005-07-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
Messed up how? - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 29 Jul 2005, at 5:55 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: So I received my 2006 update. I open a file, and anything that used the Jazz Text font is messed up. If I start a NEW document, I can't get Jazz Text font to work either. Yes, I

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 29 Jul 2005, at 7:07 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: And on Windows? I know nothing about audio units on Windows, just software synths (which is what GPO with the Kontact player is, no?). On Windows it's VST. Again, if you play back using either AU (Mac) or VST (Windows), you can't

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
If you look at the subject, it says FinMac. I suppose you were busy dealing with a problematic drive or something. Macintosh OS X has Audio Units. Windows doesn't. Nada. Audio Unit performance is quite a bit better than the standard player. However, on the Mac version, I think things are a

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Totally agree. I really think the GPO thing is fluff. I'd rather see Finale get better at importing Midi files. I hate when a Midi that I've done in Digital Performer does not come across correctly in Finale. It happens all the time. It's frustrating, and wastes time. Craig Parmerlee

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 29 Jul 2005, at 6:24 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: That's a nice thing, though I'd never found it too hard to deal with (arco cello always worked fine for me) It's much nicer not to have to assign three different versions of arco and pizz etc to three different metatools each. (For mute

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Jazz Text Font Problems?

2005-07-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
As in anything you type comes out as Boxes. I had to reinstall just the Jazz fonts a second time to get it to work. Seems to be ok. The first install of 2006 on my Mac Mini resulted in the Jazz Text font doing this. I'll see if it happens on my other Mac later. Darcy James Argue wrote:

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 29 Jul 2005, at 6:24 PM, Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: However, one annoyance is that if you have a Fin2k4 or 2k5 file with expressions that *are* defined for keyswitching during playback, you must set the playback options to None for Finale 2k6 (or, at

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 16:43, Eric Dannewitz wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: And on Windows? I know nothing about audio units on Windows, just software synths (which is what GPO with the Kontact player is, no?). If you look at the subject, it says FinMac. . . . Irrelevant. It's still MIDI output

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
David W. Fenton wrote: Irrelevant. It's still MIDI output from Finale. Which is why I asked the question, as it didn't make sense to say you couldn't use MIDI while using AU, since what you're sending to it *is* MIDI. Go RTFA about Audio Units. It is a different beast than Midi. Why

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 19:48, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 29 Jul 2005, at 6:24 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: That's a nice thing, though I'd never found it too hard to deal with (arco cello always worked fine for me) It's much nicer not to have to assign three different versions of arco and

Re: [Finale] TAN - What printer to buy?

2005-07-29 Thread Ken Durling
I've been using an HP LaserJet 5100 for a few years now, and I simply can't imagine anything better. Fast, very high res, and will do large format - I regularly print 11x17 stapled booklets (in Sibelius - I have yet to explore printing in Finale yet, but it couldn't be THAT different)

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 29 Jul 2005, at 8:02 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: If you'd get your head out of the windowass world, perhaps you'd have a clue as to what an Audio Unit is. Eric, Cool it, please. You're flaming David for not knowing what Audio Units are? Surely you have better uses for your time. -

[Finale] GPO instrument loading

2005-07-29 Thread Brad Beyenhof
Since the Kontakt Player only shows eight instruments, I've been having a hell of a time trying to load GPO patches for channels 9-16. I suspect it's something easy, but I've just not found it. Plus, it's Friday afternoon. I'm not going to play with it again until Monday (I only have 2006 in the

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Well, if he would take the TIME to read up on them rather than saying, with his INFINITE knowledge, that it all just Midi Data, then yeah, I'll stop. That and his CD/DVD thing.. Darcy James Argue wrote: Eric, Cool it, please. You're flaming David for not knowing what Audio Units are?

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 29 Jul 2005, at 8:03 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: If HP works with any GM synthesizer, what's the advantage of GPO, then? 1) Apparently opinions differ here, but I think GPO sounds are clearly *far* superior to the Finale SoundFont, especially the wind, ensemble strings, and percussion

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 29 Jul 2005, at 8:15 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Well, if he would take the TIME to read up on them rather than saying, with his INFINITE knowledge, that it all just Midi Data, then yeah, I'll stop. That and his CD/DVD thing.. Now that you mention it, you might want to just let that

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 20:26, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 29 Jul 2005, at 8:03 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: If HP works with any GM synthesizer, what's the advantage of GPO, then? 1) Apparently opinions differ here, but I think GPO sounds are clearly *far* superior to the Finale SoundFont,

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-29 Thread John Hughes
Mine sound just awful. I bought Fin2006 purely on the promise that I could at last hear my work sound something like real. But I'm afraid I was very disappointed. The same with Finale's HP. I could never use it. John - Original Message - From: Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 29 Jul 2005, at 9:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: 2) GPO + Human Playback support numerous playing techniques not included in the Finale SoundFont, including true legato on slurs, fluttertongue and n.v. flutes, mutes for all brass (except tuba), muted strings, recorded string trills and

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 29 Jul 2005, at 9:06 PM, John Hughes wrote: Mine sound just awful. I bought Fin2006 purely on the promise that I could at last hear my work sound something like real. But I'm afraid I was very disappointed. The same with Finale's HP. I could never use it. You mean you didn't listen to

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/coreaudio/ http://developer.apple.com/audio/coreaudio.html Go read up on it. It's not Midi. Midi is a different layer of Core Audio. Why Finale 2006 doesn't allow both AU and Midi at the same time? Bad programming. So far, I'm not finding ANYTHING good

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 21:18, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 29 Jul 2005, at 9:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: 2) GPO + Human Playback support numerous playing techniques not included in the Finale SoundFont, including true legato on slurs, fluttertongue and n.v. flutes, mutes for all brass

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 18:28, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Go read up on it I'll promise to make no more comments about Mac audio if you promise to shut up on the subject of WinXP's problems with optical drives. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton

Re: [Finale] Problem accessing user manual

2005-07-29 Thread John Hughes
Many thanks for your reply, David. You are no doubt right that the problem isn't with Finale. I think it was caused some weeks ago when I tried to open some obscure file that, at the moment, I can't remember where it came from. The computer gave me the message that it doesn't know what

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 29 Jul 2005, at 9:35 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: So, by not using the GPO that comes with Finale, you're sacrificing a bunch of ease-of-use features associated with HP. Correct -- but HP is a *lot* more than just GPO integration! Got it -- key velocity and volume work the way they always

Re: [Finale] Problem accessing user manual

2005-07-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Jul 2005 at 19:39, John Hughes wrote: You are no doubt right that the problem isn't with Finale. I think it was caused some weeks ago when I tried to open some obscure file that, at the moment, I can't remember where it came from. The computer gave me the message that it doesn't know

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k6 Good News/Bad News

2005-07-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Sounds good to me David W. Fenton wrote: On 29 Jul 2005 at 18:28, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Go read up on it I'll promise to make no more comments about Mac audio if you promise to shut up on the subject of WinXP's problems with optical drives.

Re: [Finale] GPO instrument loading

2005-07-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:13 PM 07/29/2005, Brad Beyenhof wrote: Since the Kontakt Player only shows eight instruments, I've been having a hell of a time trying to load GPO patches for channels 9-16. I suspect it's something easy, but I've just not found it. As best as I can figure from the sketchy documentation,

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Tyler Turner
--- Gerald Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An hour! Should I be so lucky. A month is more like it. Jerry On 29-Jul-05, at 9:35 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Anybody have success playing click tracks while using GPO? This doesn't seem to work for me, which makes it impossible to use

Re: [Finale] GPO instrument loading

2005-07-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 29 Jul 2005, at 10:37 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 29/07/05, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29 Jul 2005, at 8:13 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: Since the Kontakt Player only shows eight instruments, I've been having a hell of a time trying to load GPO patches for channels 9-16. I

Re: [Finale] Click Tracks with GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
Tyler, The half an hour I cited includes waiting for the patches to load (which can take quite some time, at least on Mac). You also have to ratchet down the polyphony on each instrument (especially percussion, strings, keyboard, etc), and because of a stupid bug in the NI player, you often

Re: [Finale] GPO instrument loading

2005-07-29 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On 29/07/05, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29 Jul 2005, at 10:37 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: Also, I haven't even been able to access anything other than channels 1-8 so far. Clicking Edit (or whatever it is; I'm not in front of the program right now) next to the 17-32 Audio

Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO

2005-07-29 Thread Tyler Turner
--- Craig Parmerlee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Ok ... so I'd like to hear someone else confirm that the GPO sounds are no better at all than standard soundfonts. True? No? What's the concensus? I won't say they're no better, but I surely don't

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