[Flashcoders] AS3 Datagrid question

[Bill]

Are folks still using this list?

The archives look to end in 2007.

Anyone for a Flash Datagrid *DataGridEvent.ITEM_EDIT_BEGIN *
not seeming to fire on a Custom cellrendered cell?

Thanks
Bill
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Paul A.]

On 27/05/2013 18:03, Rick Hassen wrote:

Thats a good question and well phrased. And I wish I could give you as good an answer, 
however, Collin Moocks "Lost Weekend" videos, which can be accessed through Safari 
Books, goes into why and when you'd use them, quite nicely with examples and a q&a.
Sadly, I'm not a subscriber, so I'll have to pass. I might sign up for a 
trial sometime and check out what he has to say.


  


Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 12:05:44 +0100
From: p...@ipauland.com
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

I have written a lot of AS3 code with classes and before that was mostly
a Java developer and I have yet to have written an AS3 project that has
used private classes for anything at all but  singleton enforcement.

I'm trying to get a handle on whether I've been missing out or people
are using private classes where they weren't needed.

Does it really matter that much? perhaps not. For me, private classes
are some secret coding hidden from the world and segregated from the
main class. If a class is important, it's probably important enough to
be a public class. If it's not that important I suspect it could have
it's functionality coded as a helper function for the main class.

I have never really been a fan of private classes because IMHO they
introduce added complication, quietly, where it's probably not needed -
hence my search for an example to change my mind about this.

Anyone have a concrete example where a private class suits perfectly
(and doesn't involve singletons)?

This is your chance to educate me.

On 27/05/2013 11:47, Cor wrote:

I use this for objects only needed in the scope of that particular class.
I don't know if this is "the best solution"...
I guess this depends on what you are trying to achieve.
It works for me.

Regards
Cor

On 27 May 2013 12:24, Paul A.  wrote:


Out of curiosity, has anyone on the list actually used private classes
for anything other than enforcing singleton creation?

If you have, please tell us and say why it was the best solution.



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RE: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Rick Hassen]

Thats a good question and well phrased. And I wish I could give you as good an 
answer, however, Collin Moocks "Lost Weekend" videos, which can be accessed 
through Safari Books, goes into why and when you'd use them, quite nicely with 
examples and a q&a.

 

> Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 12:05:44 +0100
> From: p...@ipauland.com
> To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..
> 
> I have written a lot of AS3 code with classes and before that was mostly 
> a Java developer and I have yet to have written an AS3 project that has 
> used private classes for anything at all but  singleton enforcement.
> 
> I'm trying to get a handle on whether I've been missing out or people 
> are using private classes where they weren't needed.
> 
> Does it really matter that much? perhaps not. For me, private classes 
> are some secret coding hidden from the world and segregated from the 
> main class. If a class is important, it's probably important enough to 
> be a public class. If it's not that important I suspect it could have 
> it's functionality coded as a helper function for the main class.
> 
> I have never really been a fan of private classes because IMHO they 
> introduce added complication, quietly, where it's probably not needed - 
> hence my search for an example to change my mind about this.
> 
> Anyone have a concrete example where a private class suits perfectly 
> (and doesn't involve singletons)?
> 
> This is your chance to educate me.
> 
> On 27/05/2013 11:47, Cor wrote:
> > I use this for objects only needed in the scope of that particular class.
> > I don't know if this is "the best solution"...
> > I guess this depends on what you are trying to achieve.
> > It works for me.
> >
> > Regards
> > Cor
> >
> > On 27 May 2013 12:24, Paul A.  wrote:
> >
> >> Out of curiosity, has anyone on the list actually used private classes
> >> for anything other than enforcing singleton creation?
> >>
> >> If you have, please tell us and say why it was the best solution.
> >>
> >>
> 
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Paul A.]

I have written a lot of AS3 code with classes and before that was mostly 
a Java developer and I have yet to have written an AS3 project that has 
used private classes for anything at all but  singleton enforcement.


I'm trying to get a handle on whether I've been missing out or people 
are using private classes where they weren't needed.


Does it really matter that much? perhaps not. For me, private classes 
are some secret coding hidden from the world and segregated from the 
main class. If a class is important, it's probably important enough to 
be a public class. If it's not that important I suspect it could have 
it's functionality coded as a helper function for the main class.


I have never really been a fan of private classes because IMHO they 
introduce added complication, quietly, where it's probably not needed - 
hence my search for an example to change my mind about this.


Anyone have a concrete example where a private class suits perfectly 
(and doesn't involve singletons)?


This is your chance to educate me.

On 27/05/2013 11:47, Cor wrote:

I use this for objects only needed in the scope of that particular class.
I don't know if this is "the best solution"...
I guess this depends on what you are trying to achieve.
It works for me.

Regards
Cor

On 27 May 2013 12:24, Paul A.  wrote:


Out of curiosity, has anyone on the list actually used private classes
for anything other than enforcing singleton creation?

If you have, please tell us and say why it was the best solution.




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RE: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Cor]

As for my usage:
I create at any given moment one or more objects of the helper class within one 
or more functions in the containing class.

excuse the poor English, I am Dutch.


-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com 
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Paul A.
Sent: maandag 27 mei 2013 12:50
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

On 27/05/2013 11:37, tom rhodes wrote:
> i generally use them for something teeny tiny that is only needed in 
> the scope of the main class and doesn't feel right in it's own file as 
> it's never used anywhere but the main class.
Why wouldn't you just incorporate that functionality as part of the class? 
Helper methods that aren't necessarily intended for external use?
>
> On 27 May 2013 12:24, Paul A.  wrote:
>
>> Out of curiosity, has anyone on the list actually used private 
>> classes for anything other than enforcing singleton creation?
>>
>> If you have, please tell us and say why it was the best solution.
>>
>>

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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Paul A.]

On 27/05/2013 11:37, tom rhodes wrote:

i generally use them for something teeny tiny that is only needed in the
scope of the main class and doesn't feel right in it's own file as it's
never used anywhere but the main class.
Why wouldn't you just incorporate that functionality as part of the 
class? Helper methods that aren't necessarily intended for external use?


On 27 May 2013 12:24, Paul A.  wrote:


Out of curiosity, has anyone on the list actually used private classes for
anything other than enforcing singleton creation?

If you have, please tell us and say why it was the best solution.




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RE: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Cor]

I use this for objects only needed in the scope of that particular class.
I don't know if this is "the best solution"...
I guess this depends on what you are trying to achieve.
It works for me.

Regards
Cor

On 27 May 2013 12:24, Paul A.  wrote:

> Out of curiosity, has anyone on the list actually used private classes 
> for anything other than enforcing singleton creation?
>
> If you have, please tell us and say why it was the best solution.
>
>
>
> On 27/05/2013 06:50, Cor wrote:
>
>> I think they can be usefull to create objects with a lot of its own 
>> functionality.
>> In fact the same as you use a public classes: create objects, and you 
>> can polymorphism the objects to your needs.
>> I also think this will keep your code more readable and clean.
>> HTH
>> Cor
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> flashcoders-bounces@chattyfig.**figleaf.com> yfig.figleaf.com> 
>> [mailto:flashcoders-bounces@**chattyfig.figleaf.com> e...@chattyfig.figleaf.com>]
>> On Behalf Of Karl
>> DeSaulniers
>> Sent: maandag 27 mei 2013 1:22
>> To: Flash Coders List
>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..
>>
>> Thanks Ktu. That actually makes sense. I was not looking for a reason 
>> necessarily to use a private class, but more so, saw this example and 
>> had the though "this must be a private class" and wanted to verify 
>> for my own understanding. Which you have provided. I see and 
>> understand what you mean by it is not the most necessary thing to 
>> create a private namespace class and that I will more then likely be 
>> able to accomplish what i need through regular classes and never need 
>> to set a private class up. Thank you for the clarification.
>>
>> Well. Finished Perkins, on to Moock.
>> Actually getting excited... LoL
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Best,
>> Karl
>>
>> Sent from losPhone
>>
>> On May 26, 2013, at 10:40 AM, ktu 
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>>  yes. this is an example of a private class. but as someone earlier
>>> mentioned, you shouldn't ever _need_ to use them. and it would be 
>>> more appropriate not to use them in production code. using the 
>>> internal namespace gives you some restriction, and you could even 
>>> use your own namespace for restriction but that's quite uncommon as well.
>>>
>>> for reference..
>>> - you cannot add a namespace to this 'private' class and should 
>>> result in a compile error if you do. (ex. public class CustomClient) 
>>> therefore, it must always be defined as 'class ClassName' with no
>>>
>> namespace.
>>
>>> - any classes that you need within this 'private' class must be 
>>> imported outside the package package com {
>>>// code
>>> }
>>> import flash.display.Sprite
>>> class MySprite {
>>>// code
>>> }
>>> - and if some outside object gets a reference to it, you should be 
>>> able to access public functions and properties so long as you do not 
>>> try to cast the object as anything other than Object.
>>>
>>> in my experience, i have yet to feel the need for a pseudo 'private'
>>>
>> class.
>>
>>> the internal namespace serves me well most and in a few occasions a 
>>> custom namespace was required.
>>>
>>> good luck :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Karl DeSaulniers
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, I am understanding things a little better I believe. Quick
>>>> question to solidify some knowledge. In reference to my question 
>>>> about a private class, is the class CustomClient at the bottom an 
>>>> example of a private class? It was mentioned that even if you don't 
>>>> have the word private there and don't put public, flash 
>>>> automatically will interpret it as a private class. It is inside 
>>>> the class file but outside the package for the main class (which 
>>>> was also mentioned), it does not have public on it so you can't 
>>>> call it outside this file. This
>>>>
>>> is what a private class is, correct?
>>
>>> package {
>>>> import flash.display.Sprite;
>>>> import flash.events.NetStatusEvent;
>>>> import flash.events.**SecurityErrorEvent;
>>>> import flash.media.Video;
>>>> import flash.net.NetConnection;
>

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[tom rhodes]

i generally use them for something teeny tiny that is only needed in the
scope of the main class and doesn't feel right in it's own file as it's
never used anywhere but the main class.


On 27 May 2013 12:24, Paul A.  wrote:

> Out of curiosity, has anyone on the list actually used private classes for
> anything other than enforcing singleton creation?
>
> If you have, please tell us and say why it was the best solution.
>
>
>
> On 27/05/2013 06:50, Cor wrote:
>
>> I think they can be usefull to create objects with a lot of its own
>> functionality.
>> In fact the same as you use a public classes: create objects, and you can
>> polymorphism the objects to your needs.
>> I also think this will keep your code more readable and clean.
>> HTH
>> Cor
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> flashcoders-bounces@chattyfig.**figleaf.com
>> [mailto:flashcoders-bounces@**chattyfig.figleaf.com]
>> On Behalf Of Karl
>> DeSaulniers
>> Sent: maandag 27 mei 2013 1:22
>> To: Flash Coders List
>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..
>>
>> Thanks Ktu. That actually makes sense. I was not looking for a reason
>> necessarily to use a private class, but more so, saw this example and had
>> the though "this must be a private class" and wanted to verify for my own
>> understanding. Which you have provided. I see and understand what you mean
>> by it is not the most necessary thing to create a private namespace class
>> and that I will more then likely be able to accomplish what i need through
>> regular classes and never need to set a private class up. Thank you for
>> the
>> clarification.
>>
>> Well. Finished Perkins, on to Moock.
>> Actually getting excited... LoL
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Best,
>> Karl
>>
>> Sent from losPhone
>>
>> On May 26, 2013, at 10:40 AM, ktu 
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>>  yes. this is an example of a private class. but as someone earlier
>>> mentioned, you shouldn't ever _need_ to use them. and it would be more
>>> appropriate not to use them in production code. using the internal
>>> namespace gives you some restriction, and you could even use your own
>>> namespace for restriction but that's quite uncommon as well.
>>>
>>> for reference..
>>> - you cannot add a namespace to this 'private' class and should result
>>> in a compile error if you do. (ex. public class CustomClient)
>>> therefore, it must always be defined as 'class ClassName' with no
>>>
>> namespace.
>>
>>> - any classes that you need within this 'private' class must be
>>> imported outside the package package com {
>>>// code
>>> }
>>> import flash.display.Sprite
>>> class MySprite {
>>>// code
>>> }
>>> - and if some outside object gets a reference to it, you should be
>>> able to access public functions and properties so long as you do not
>>> try to cast the object as anything other than Object.
>>>
>>> in my experience, i have yet to feel the need for a pseudo 'private'
>>>
>> class.
>>
>>> the internal namespace serves me well most and in a few occasions a
>>> custom namespace was required.
>>>
>>> good luck :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Karl DeSaulniers
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, I am understanding things a little better I believe. Quick
>>>> question to solidify some knowledge. In reference to my question
>>>> about a private class, is the class CustomClient at the bottom an
>>>> example of a private class? It was mentioned that even if you don't
>>>> have the word private there and don't put public, flash automatically
>>>> will interpret it as a private class. It is inside the class file but
>>>> outside the package for the main class (which was also mentioned), it
>>>> does not have public on it so you can't call it outside this file. This
>>>>
>>> is what a private class is, correct?
>>
>>> package {
>>>> import flash.display.Sprite;
>>>> import flash.events.NetStatusEvent;
>>>> import flash.events.**SecurityErrorEvent;
>>>> import flash.media.Video;
>>>> import flash.net.NetConnection;
>>>> import flash.net.NetStream;
>>>> import flash.events.Event;
>&g

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Paul A.]

Out of curiosity, has anyone on the list actually used private classes 
for anything other than enforcing singleton creation?


If you have, please tell us and say why it was the best solution.


On 27/05/2013 06:50, Cor wrote:

I think they can be usefull to create objects with a lot of its own
functionality.
In fact the same as you use a public classes: create objects, and you can
polymorphism the objects to your needs.
I also think this will keep your code more readable and clean.
HTH
Cor

-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl
DeSaulniers
Sent: maandag 27 mei 2013 1:22
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

Thanks Ktu. That actually makes sense. I was not looking for a reason
necessarily to use a private class, but more so, saw this example and had
the though "this must be a private class" and wanted to verify for my own
understanding. Which you have provided. I see and understand what you mean
by it is not the most necessary thing to create a private namespace class
and that I will more then likely be able to accomplish what i need through
regular classes and never need to set a private class up. Thank you for the
clarification.

Well. Finished Perkins, on to Moock.
Actually getting excited... LoL

Thanks again,

Best,
Karl

Sent from losPhone

On May 26, 2013, at 10:40 AM, ktu  wrote:


yes. this is an example of a private class. but as someone earlier
mentioned, you shouldn't ever _need_ to use them. and it would be more
appropriate not to use them in production code. using the internal
namespace gives you some restriction, and you could even use your own
namespace for restriction but that's quite uncommon as well.

for reference..
- you cannot add a namespace to this 'private' class and should result
in a compile error if you do. (ex. public class CustomClient)
therefore, it must always be defined as 'class ClassName' with no

namespace.

- any classes that you need within this 'private' class must be
imported outside the package package com {
   // code
}
import flash.display.Sprite
class MySprite {
   // code
}
- and if some outside object gets a reference to it, you should be
able to access public functions and properties so long as you do not
try to cast the object as anything other than Object.

in my experience, i have yet to feel the need for a pseudo 'private'

class.

the internal namespace serves me well most and in a few occasions a
custom namespace was required.

good luck :)


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Karl DeSaulniers

wrote:

Ok, I am understanding things a little better I believe. Quick
question to solidify some knowledge. In reference to my question
about a private class, is the class CustomClient at the bottom an
example of a private class? It was mentioned that even if you don't
have the word private there and don't put public, flash automatically
will interpret it as a private class. It is inside the class file but
outside the package for the main class (which was also mentioned), it
does not have public on it so you can't call it outside this file. This

is what a private class is, correct?

package {
import flash.display.Sprite;
import flash.events.NetStatusEvent;
import flash.events.SecurityErrorEvent;
import flash.media.Video;
import flash.net.NetConnection;
import flash.net.NetStream;
import flash.events.Event;

public class NetConnectionExample extends Sprite {
private var videoURL:String = "
http://www.helpexamples.com/flash/video/cuepoints.flv";;
private var connection:NetConnection;
private var stream:NetStream;
private var video:Video = new Video();

public function NetConnectionExample() {
connection = new NetConnection();
connection.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS,
netStatusHandler);

connection.addEventListener(SecurityErrorEvent.SECURITY_ERROR,

securityErrorHandler);
connection.connect(null);
}

private function netStatusHandler(event:NetStatusEvent):void {
switch (event.info.code) {
case "NetConnection.Connect.Success":
connectStream();
break;
case "NetStream.Play.StreamNotFound":
trace("Stream not found: " + videoURL);
break;
}
}

private function
securityErrorHandler(event:SecurityErrorEvent):void {
trace("securityErrorHandler: " + event);
}

private function connectStream():void {
addChild(video);
var stream:NetStream = new NetStream(connection);
stream.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS,
netStatusHandler);
stream.client

RE: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Cor]

I think they can be usefull to create objects with a lot of its own
functionality.
In fact the same as you use a public classes: create objects, and you can
polymorphism the objects to your needs.
I also think this will keep your code more readable and clean.
HTH
Cor

-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl
DeSaulniers
Sent: maandag 27 mei 2013 1:22
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

Thanks Ktu. That actually makes sense. I was not looking for a reason
necessarily to use a private class, but more so, saw this example and had
the though "this must be a private class" and wanted to verify for my own
understanding. Which you have provided. I see and understand what you mean
by it is not the most necessary thing to create a private namespace class
and that I will more then likely be able to accomplish what i need through
regular classes and never need to set a private class up. Thank you for the
clarification. 

Well. Finished Perkins, on to Moock. 
Actually getting excited... LoL

Thanks again,

Best,
Karl

Sent from losPhone

On May 26, 2013, at 10:40 AM, ktu  wrote:

> yes. this is an example of a private class. but as someone earlier 
> mentioned, you shouldn't ever _need_ to use them. and it would be more 
> appropriate not to use them in production code. using the internal 
> namespace gives you some restriction, and you could even use your own 
> namespace for restriction but that's quite uncommon as well.
> 
> for reference..
> - you cannot add a namespace to this 'private' class and should result 
> in a compile error if you do. (ex. public class CustomClient) 
> therefore, it must always be defined as 'class ClassName' with no
namespace.
> - any classes that you need within this 'private' class must be 
> imported outside the package package com {
>   // code
> }
> import flash.display.Sprite
> class MySprite {
>   // code
> }
> - and if some outside object gets a reference to it, you should be 
> able to access public functions and properties so long as you do not 
> try to cast the object as anything other than Object.
> 
> in my experience, i have yet to feel the need for a pseudo 'private'
class.
> the internal namespace serves me well most and in a few occasions a 
> custom namespace was required.
> 
> good luck :)
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Karl DeSaulniers
wrote:
> 
>> Ok, I am understanding things a little better I believe. Quick 
>> question to solidify some knowledge. In reference to my question 
>> about a private class, is the class CustomClient at the bottom an 
>> example of a private class? It was mentioned that even if you don't 
>> have the word private there and don't put public, flash automatically 
>> will interpret it as a private class. It is inside the class file but 
>> outside the package for the main class (which was also mentioned), it 
>> does not have public on it so you can't call it outside this file. This
is what a private class is, correct?
>> 
>> package {
>>import flash.display.Sprite;
>>import flash.events.NetStatusEvent;
>>import flash.events.SecurityErrorEvent;
>>import flash.media.Video;
>>import flash.net.NetConnection;
>>import flash.net.NetStream;
>>import flash.events.Event;
>> 
>>public class NetConnectionExample extends Sprite {
>>private var videoURL:String = "
>> http://www.helpexamples.com/flash/video/cuepoints.flv";;
>>private var connection:NetConnection;
>>private var stream:NetStream;
>>private var video:Video = new Video();
>> 
>>public function NetConnectionExample() {
>>connection = new NetConnection();
>>connection.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS,
>> netStatusHandler);
>>
>> connection.addEventListener(SecurityErrorEvent.SECURITY_ERROR,
>> securityErrorHandler);
>>connection.connect(null);
>>}
>> 
>>private function netStatusHandler(event:NetStatusEvent):void {
>>switch (event.info.code) {
>>case "NetConnection.Connect.Success":
>>connectStream();
>>break;
>>case "NetStream.Play.StreamNotFound":
>>trace("Stream not found: " + videoURL);
>>break;
>>}
>>}
>> 
>>private function
>> securityErrorHandler(event:Sec

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Thanks Ktu. That actually makes sense. I was not looking for a reason 
necessarily to use a private class, but more so, saw this example and had the 
though "this must be a private class" and wanted to verify for my own 
understanding. Which you have provided. I see and understand what you mean by 
it is not the most necessary thing to create a private namespace class and that 
I will more then likely be able to accomplish what i need through regular 
classes and never need to set a private class up. Thank you for the 
clarification. 

Well. Finished Perkins, on to Moock. 
Actually getting excited... LoL

Thanks again,

Best,
Karl

Sent from losPhone

On May 26, 2013, at 10:40 AM, ktu  wrote:

> yes. this is an example of a private class. but as someone earlier
> mentioned, you shouldn't ever _need_ to use them. and it would be more
> appropriate not to use them in production code. using the internal
> namespace gives you some restriction, and you could even use your own
> namespace for restriction but that's quite uncommon as well.
> 
> for reference..
> - you cannot add a namespace to this 'private' class and should result in
> a compile error if you do. (ex. public class CustomClient) therefore, it
> must always be defined as 'class ClassName' with no namespace.
> - any classes that you need within this 'private' class must be imported
> outside the package
> package com {
>   // code
> }
> import flash.display.Sprite
> class MySprite {
>   // code
> }
> - and if some outside object gets a reference to it, you should be able to
> access public functions and properties so long as you do not try to cast
> the object as anything other than Object.
> 
> in my experience, i have yet to feel the need for a pseudo 'private' class.
> the internal namespace serves me well most and in a few occasions a custom
> namespace was required.
> 
> good luck :)
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
> 
>> Ok, I am understanding things a little better I believe. Quick question to
>> solidify some knowledge. In reference to my question about a private class,
>> is the class CustomClient at the bottom an example of a private class? It
>> was mentioned that even if you don't have the word private there and don't
>> put public, flash automatically will interpret it as a private class. It is
>> inside the class file but outside the package for the main class (which was
>> also mentioned), it does not have public on it so you can't call it outside
>> this file. This is what a private class is, correct?
>> 
>> package {
>>import flash.display.Sprite;
>>import flash.events.NetStatusEvent;
>>import flash.events.SecurityErrorEvent;
>>import flash.media.Video;
>>import flash.net.NetConnection;
>>import flash.net.NetStream;
>>import flash.events.Event;
>> 
>>public class NetConnectionExample extends Sprite {
>>private var videoURL:String = "
>> http://www.helpexamples.com/flash/video/cuepoints.flv";;
>>private var connection:NetConnection;
>>private var stream:NetStream;
>>private var video:Video = new Video();
>> 
>>public function NetConnectionExample() {
>>connection = new NetConnection();
>>connection.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS,
>> netStatusHandler);
>>connection.addEventListener(SecurityErrorEvent.SECURITY_ERROR,
>> securityErrorHandler);
>>connection.connect(null);
>>}
>> 
>>private function netStatusHandler(event:NetStatusEvent):void {
>>switch (event.info.code) {
>>case "NetConnection.Connect.Success":
>>connectStream();
>>break;
>>case "NetStream.Play.StreamNotFound":
>>trace("Stream not found: " + videoURL);
>>break;
>>}
>>}
>> 
>>private function
>> securityErrorHandler(event:SecurityErrorEvent):void {
>>trace("securityErrorHandler: " + event);
>>}
>> 
>>private function connectStream():void {
>>addChild(video);
>>var stream:NetStream = new NetStream(connection);
>>stream.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS,
>> netStatusHandler);
>>stream.client = new CustomClient();
>>video.attachNetStream(stream);
>>stream.play(videoURL);
>>}
>>}
>> }
>> 
>> class CustomClient {
>>public function onMetaData(info:Object):void {
>>trace("metadata: duration=" + info.duration + " width=" +
>> info.width + " height=" + info.height + " framerate=" + info.framerate);
>>}
>>public function onCuePoint(info:Object):void {
>>trace("cuepoint: time=" + info.time + " name=" + info.name + "
>> type=" + info.type);
>>}
>> }
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[ktu]

yes. this is an example of a private class. but as someone earlier
mentioned, you shouldn't ever _need_ to use them. and it would be more
appropriate not to use them in production code. using the internal
namespace gives you some restriction, and you could even use your own
namespace for restriction but that's quite uncommon as well.

for reference..
 - you cannot add a namespace to this 'private' class and should result in
a compile error if you do. (ex. public class CustomClient) therefore, it
must always be defined as 'class ClassName' with no namespace.
 - any classes that you need within this 'private' class must be imported
outside the package
package com {
   // code
}
import flash.display.Sprite
class MySprite {
   // code
}
 - and if some outside object gets a reference to it, you should be able to
access public functions and properties so long as you do not try to cast
the object as anything other than Object.

in my experience, i have yet to feel the need for a pseudo 'private' class.
the internal namespace serves me well most and in a few occasions a custom
namespace was required.

good luck :)


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

> Ok, I am understanding things a little better I believe. Quick question to
> solidify some knowledge. In reference to my question about a private class,
> is the class CustomClient at the bottom an example of a private class? It
> was mentioned that even if you don't have the word private there and don't
> put public, flash automatically will interpret it as a private class. It is
> inside the class file but outside the package for the main class (which was
> also mentioned), it does not have public on it so you can't call it outside
> this file. This is what a private class is, correct?
>
> package {
> import flash.display.Sprite;
> import flash.events.NetStatusEvent;
> import flash.events.SecurityErrorEvent;
> import flash.media.Video;
> import flash.net.NetConnection;
> import flash.net.NetStream;
> import flash.events.Event;
>
> public class NetConnectionExample extends Sprite {
> private var videoURL:String = "
> http://www.helpexamples.com/flash/video/cuepoints.flv";;
> private var connection:NetConnection;
> private var stream:NetStream;
> private var video:Video = new Video();
>
> public function NetConnectionExample() {
> connection = new NetConnection();
> connection.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS,
> netStatusHandler);
> connection.addEventListener(SecurityErrorEvent.SECURITY_ERROR,
> securityErrorHandler);
> connection.connect(null);
> }
>
> private function netStatusHandler(event:NetStatusEvent):void {
> switch (event.info.code) {
> case "NetConnection.Connect.Success":
> connectStream();
> break;
> case "NetStream.Play.StreamNotFound":
> trace("Stream not found: " + videoURL);
> break;
> }
> }
>
> private function
> securityErrorHandler(event:SecurityErrorEvent):void {
> trace("securityErrorHandler: " + event);
> }
>
> private function connectStream():void {
> addChild(video);
> var stream:NetStream = new NetStream(connection);
> stream.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS,
> netStatusHandler);
> stream.client = new CustomClient();
> video.attachNetStream(stream);
> stream.play(videoURL);
> }
> }
> }
>
> class CustomClient {
> public function onMetaData(info:Object):void {
> trace("metadata: duration=" + info.duration + " width=" +
> info.width + " height=" + info.height + " framerate=" + info.framerate);
> }
> public function onCuePoint(info:Object):void {
> trace("cuepoint: time=" + info.time + " name=" + info.name + "
> type=" + info.type);
> }
> }
>
> Best,
>
> Karl DeSaulniers
> Design Drumm
> http://designdrumm.com
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Ok, I am understanding things a little better I believe. Quick question to 
solidify some knowledge. In reference to my question about a private class, is 
the class CustomClient at the bottom an example of a private class? It was 
mentioned that even if you don't have the word private there and don't put 
public, flash automatically will interpret it as a private class. It is inside 
the class file but outside the package for the main class (which was also 
mentioned), it does not have public on it so you can't call it outside this 
file. This is what a private class is, correct? 

package {
import flash.display.Sprite;
import flash.events.NetStatusEvent;
import flash.events.SecurityErrorEvent;
import flash.media.Video;
import flash.net.NetConnection;
import flash.net.NetStream;
import flash.events.Event;

public class NetConnectionExample extends Sprite {
private var videoURL:String = 
"http://www.helpexamples.com/flash/video/cuepoints.flv";;
private var connection:NetConnection;
private var stream:NetStream;
private var video:Video = new Video();

public function NetConnectionExample() {
connection = new NetConnection();
connection.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS, 
netStatusHandler);
connection.addEventListener(SecurityErrorEvent.SECURITY_ERROR, 
securityErrorHandler);
connection.connect(null);
}

private function netStatusHandler(event:NetStatusEvent):void {
switch (event.info.code) {
case "NetConnection.Connect.Success":
connectStream();
break;
case "NetStream.Play.StreamNotFound":
trace("Stream not found: " + videoURL);
break;
}
}

private function securityErrorHandler(event:SecurityErrorEvent):void {
trace("securityErrorHandler: " + event);
}

private function connectStream():void {
addChild(video);
var stream:NetStream = new NetStream(connection);
stream.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS, 
netStatusHandler);
stream.client = new CustomClient();
video.attachNetStream(stream);
stream.play(videoURL);
}
}
}

class CustomClient {
public function onMetaData(info:Object):void {
trace("metadata: duration=" + info.duration + " width=" + info.width + 
" height=" + info.height + " framerate=" + info.framerate);
}
public function onCuePoint(info:Object):void {
trace("cuepoint: time=" + info.time + " name=" + info.name + " type=" + 
info.type);
}
}

Best,

Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 Noise (Audio) Filter?

[Karim Beyrouti]

I have not seen anything that does that (how unhelpful was this !)… 

Having said that, this guy is a DSP specialist by the looks of it:
http://gerrybeauregard.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/an-fft-in-as3/

maybe if you got in contact with him ? 


On 24 May 2013, at 15:20, Eric E. Dolecki  wrote:

> I'm looking for something to attempt to remove noise (or hum/hiss) from a
> playing audio file in real-time.
> 
> Thanks for any pointers.
> 
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[Flashcoders] AS3 Noise (Audio) Filter?

[Eric E. Dolecki]

I'm looking for something to attempt to remove noise (or hum/hiss) from a
playing audio file in real-time.

Thanks for any pointers.


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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Cédric Muller]

For some more insights (though ... not much .. .and hey baby, is that Java over 
there ?) you can check this thread (they are speaking about private and 
protected classes, but the reading is interesting)


hth,
Cedric

> Why? The answer has to do with Adobe's adherence to the ECMAScript working 
> standard that they were basing AS3 on. At the time (before the ECMAScript 4 
> process fell apart), the body determined that private constructors were not 
> needed, so adobe built this restriction into AS3.
> 
> Private constructors aren't useless, particularly for single pattern. With a 
> private constructor, you can instantiate the class from within itself, assign 
> it to a private class (static) property, and then expose the single instance 
> through a public class (static) getter function. You'd be protected from 
> every other way to instantiate the class. There are ways to do singleton 
> without it, they are just more of a pain. Like taking an instance of a key 
> class in the constructor, where the Key class is defined in the local class 
> file scope chain. Since nothing else will have access to that Key class 
> except your singleton class, you can use that as a nice locking mechanism.
> 
> I can't think of any use for private class off the top of my head, but that 
> doesn't mean there isn't one.
> 
> Kevin N.
> 
> 
> On 5/21/13 2:39 AM, Cor wrote:
>> Karl,
>> 
>> One: why doesn't ActionScript 3 allow private classes?
>> A: They are useless because they couldn't be used, I guess.
>> You can use a Class within a public class which then would be private to
>> that class it self.
>> 
>> Two: why is writing "public class" a best practice if "private class" does
>> not exist?
>> Look a the variations with static etc.
>> 
>> HTH
>> Cor
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Again, I am shown the great generosity of this list. 
Much thanks Marco.

Best,

Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com



On May 21, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

> Thanks Marco. Got your email. Will check it when I get home tonight. 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Karl
> 
> Sent from losPhone
> 
> On May 21, 2013, at 1:18 PM, "Marco Terrinoni"  wrote:
> 
>> Check your junk mail Karl, sent you a PM but may have got filtered
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> Marco Terrinoni - Director
>> MULARAM  PRODUCTIONS
>> web design // animation // illustration
>> uk: +44 7876 652 643
>> e: ma...@mularam.com  
>> w: www.mularam.com 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
>> [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl
>> DeSaulniers
>> Sent: 21 May 2013 18:50
>> To: Flash Coders List
>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..
>> 
>> Oh well hot dog I can afford that! :)
>> Thanks all. 
>> 
>> Karl
>> 
>> Sent from losPhone
>> 
>> On May 21, 2013, at 11:44 AM, mike g  wrote:
>> 
>>> $8.49 here:
>>> http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Essential-ActionScript-3-0-Colin-Moock-2007-Pa
>>> perback-/59066703
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Matt S.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You can get Moock's book for $26 on Powells:
>>>> http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9780596526948-6
>>>> 
>>>> Its been out for a while now though, so I would hit your local used 
>>>> bookstore, I'm willing to bet there's a few copies out there, you can 
>>>> probably score it for $10 or something.
>>>> 
>>>> Not that Moock doesn't deserve full-price for this invaluable 
>>>> resource of course! And whatever you pay, it's simply required 
>>>> reading if you're serious about AS3.
>>>> 
>>>> .m
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Karl DeSaulniers 
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you John. Yes, I have already watched some really good tuts on 
>>>>> gotoandlearn and plan to watch more when I start working on my project.
>>>>> My book is from lynda.com too. Going to invest in Moocks book as 
>>>>> suggested earlier as well. Just need to gen some funds. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Karl DeSaulniers
>>>>> Design Drumm
>>>>> http://designdrumm.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 20, 2013, at 10:30 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or subscribe to http://www.lynda.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Excellent training tutorials on tons of software. Very in-depth, 
>>>>>> but
>>>> you
>>>>> do pay for it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you know AS2,  check out www.gotoandlearn.com. Many free 
>>>>>> tutorials
>>>>> on specific tasks, but you'll see them working and their AS3 code, 
>>>>> so you can start making the correlation between what is different in 2
>> versus 3.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John R. Sweeney Jr.
>>>>>> Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc 
>>>>>> Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 20, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Rick Hassen wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> but you may want to consider getting a good AS3 book.
>>>>>> 
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Karl DeSaulniers]

This is very interesting to me. I don't know how that all works in a real-case 
scenario yet, but I will. ;)
When I get into design patterns I think I may revisit this post.
Thanks Kevin.

Best,

Karl DeSaulniers
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On May 21, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kevin Newman wrote:

> Why? The answer has to do with Adobe's adherence to the ECMAScript working 
> standard that they were basing AS3 on. At the time (before the ECMAScript 4 
> process fell apart), the body determined that private constructors were not 
> needed, so adobe built this restriction into AS3.
> 
> Private constructors aren't useless, particularly for single pattern. With a 
> private constructor, you can instantiate the class from within itself, assign 
> it to a private class (static) property, and then expose the single instance 
> through a public class (static) getter function. You'd be protected from 
> every other way to instantiate the class. There are ways to do singleton 
> without it, they are just more of a pain. Like taking an instance of a key 
> class in the constructor, where the Key class is defined in the local class 
> file scope chain. Since nothing else will have access to that Key class 
> except your singleton class, you can use that as a nice locking mechanism.
> 
> I can't think of any use for private class off the top of my head, but that 
> doesn't mean there isn't one.
> 
> Kevin N.
> 
> 
> On 5/21/13 2:39 AM, Cor wrote:
>> Karl,
>> 
>> One: why doesn't ActionScript 3 allow private classes?
>> A: They are useless because they couldn't be used, I guess.
>> You can use a Class within a public class which then would be private to
>> that class it self.
>> 
>> Two: why is writing "public class" a best practice if "private class" does
>> not exist?
>> Look a the variations with static etc.
>> 
>> HTH
>> Cor
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Kevin Newman]

Why? The answer has to do with Adobe's adherence to the ECMAScript 
working standard that they were basing AS3 on. At the time (before the 
ECMAScript 4 process fell apart), the body determined that private 
constructors were not needed, so adobe built this restriction into AS3.


Private constructors aren't useless, particularly for single pattern. 
With a private constructor, you can instantiate the class from within 
itself, assign it to a private class (static) property, and then expose 
the single instance through a public class (static) getter function. 
You'd be protected from every other way to instantiate the class. There 
are ways to do singleton without it, they are just more of a pain. Like 
taking an instance of a key class in the constructor, where the Key 
class is defined in the local class file scope chain. Since nothing else 
will have access to that Key class except your singleton class, you can 
use that as a nice locking mechanism.


I can't think of any use for private class off the top of my head, but 
that doesn't mean there isn't one.


Kevin N.


On 5/21/13 2:39 AM, Cor wrote:

Karl,

One: why doesn't ActionScript 3 allow private classes?
A: They are useless because they couldn't be used, I guess.
You can use a Class within a public class which then would be private to
that class it self.

Two: why is writing "public class" a best practice if "private class" does
not exist?
Look a the variations with static etc.

HTH
Cor




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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Thanks Marco. Got your email. Will check it when I get home tonight. 

Best, 

Karl

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On May 21, 2013, at 1:18 PM, "Marco Terrinoni"  wrote:

> Check your junk mail Karl, sent you a PM but may have got filtered
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
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> MULARAM  PRODUCTIONS
> web design // animation // illustration
> uk: +44 7876 652 643
> e: ma...@mularam.com  
> w: www.mularam.com 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl
> DeSaulniers
> Sent: 21 May 2013 18:50
> To: Flash Coders List
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..
> 
> Oh well hot dog I can afford that! :)
> Thanks all. 
> 
> Karl
> 
> Sent from losPhone
> 
> On May 21, 2013, at 11:44 AM, mike g  wrote:
> 
>> $8.49 here:
>> http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Essential-ActionScript-3-0-Colin-Moock-2007-Pa
>> perback-/59066703
>> 
>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Matt S.  wrote:
>> 
>>> You can get Moock's book for $26 on Powells:
>>> http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9780596526948-6
>>> 
>>> Its been out for a while now though, so I would hit your local used 
>>> bookstore, I'm willing to bet there's a few copies out there, you can 
>>> probably score it for $10 or something.
>>> 
>>> Not that Moock doesn't deserve full-price for this invaluable 
>>> resource of course! And whatever you pay, it's simply required 
>>> reading if you're serious about AS3.
>>> 
>>> .m
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Karl DeSaulniers 
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thank you John. Yes, I have already watched some really good tuts on 
>>>> gotoandlearn and plan to watch more when I start working on my project.
>>>> My book is from lynda.com too. Going to invest in Moocks book as 
>>>> suggested earlier as well. Just need to gen some funds. :)
>>>> 
>>>> Karl DeSaulniers
>>>> Design Drumm
>>>> http://designdrumm.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 20, 2013, at 10:30 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Or subscribe to http://www.lynda.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> Excellent training tutorials on tons of software. Very in-depth, 
>>>>> but
>>> you
>>>> do pay for it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you know AS2,  check out www.gotoandlearn.com. Many free 
>>>>> tutorials
>>>> on specific tasks, but you'll see them working and their AS3 code, 
>>>> so you can start making the correlation between what is different in 2
> versus 3.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> John R. Sweeney Jr.
>>>>> Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc 
>>>>> Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 20, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Rick Hassen wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> but you may want to consider getting a good AS3 book.
>>>>> 
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RE: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

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Oh well hot dog I can afford that! :)
Thanks all. 

Karl

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On May 21, 2013, at 11:44 AM, mike g  wrote:

> $8.49 here:
> http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Essential-ActionScript-3-0-Colin-Moock-2007-Pa
> perback-/59066703
> 
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Matt S.  wrote:
> 
>> You can get Moock's book for $26 on Powells:
>> http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9780596526948-6
>> 
>> Its been out for a while now though, so I would hit your local used 
>> bookstore, I'm willing to bet there's a few copies out there, you can 
>> probably score it for $10 or something.
>> 
>> Not that Moock doesn't deserve full-price for this invaluable 
>> resource of course! And whatever you pay, it's simply required 
>> reading if you're serious about AS3.
>> 
>> .m
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Karl DeSaulniers 
>> >> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you John. Yes, I have already watched some really good tuts on 
>>> gotoandlearn and plan to watch more when I start working on my project.
>>> My book is from lynda.com too. Going to invest in Moocks book as 
>>> suggested earlier as well. Just need to gen some funds. :)
>>> 
>>> Karl DeSaulniers
>>> Design Drumm
>>> http://designdrumm.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 20, 2013, at 10:30 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Or subscribe to http://www.lynda.com
>>>> 
>>>> Excellent training tutorials on tons of software. Very in-depth, 
>>>> but
>> you
>>> do pay for it.
>>>> 
>>>> If you know AS2,  check out www.gotoandlearn.com. Many free 
>>>> tutorials
>>> on specific tasks, but you'll see them working and their AS3 code, 
>>> so you can start making the correlation between what is different in 2
versus 3.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> John R. Sweeney Jr.
>>>> Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc 
>>>> Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 20, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Rick Hassen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> but you may want to consider getting a good AS3 book.
>>>> 
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Oh well hot dog I can afford that! :)
Thanks all. 

Karl

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On May 21, 2013, at 11:44 AM, mike g  wrote:

> $8.49 here:
> http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Essential-ActionScript-3-0-Colin-Moock-2007-Paperback-/59066703
> 
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Matt S.  wrote:
> 
>> You can get Moock's book for $26 on Powells:
>> http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9780596526948-6
>> 
>> Its been out for a while now though, so I would hit your local used
>> bookstore, I'm willing to bet there's a few copies out there, you can
>> probably score it for $10 or something.
>> 
>> Not that Moock doesn't deserve full-price for this invaluable resource of
>> course! And whatever you pay, it's simply required reading if you're
>> serious about AS3.
>> 
>> .m
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Karl DeSaulniers >> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you John. Yes, I have already watched some really good tuts on
>>> gotoandlearn and plan to watch more when I start working on my project.
>>> My book is from lynda.com too. Going to invest in Moocks book as
>>> suggested earlier as well. Just need to gen some funds. :)
>>> 
>>> Karl DeSaulniers
>>> Design Drumm
>>> http://designdrumm.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 20, 2013, at 10:30 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:
>>> 
 Or subscribe to http://www.lynda.com
 
 Excellent training tutorials on tons of software. Very in-depth, but
>> you
>>> do pay for it.
 
 If you know AS2,  check out www.gotoandlearn.com. Many free tutorials
>>> on specific tasks, but you'll see them working and their AS3 code, so you
>>> can start making the correlation between what is different in 2 versus 3.
 
 
 
 John R. Sweeney Jr.
 Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
 OnDemand Interactive Inc
 Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
 
 
 
 
 On May 20, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Rick Hassen wrote:
 
> but you may want to consider getting a good AS3 book.
 
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[mike g]

$8.49 here:
http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Essential-ActionScript-3-0-Colin-Moock-2007-Paperback-/59066703

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Matt S.  wrote:

> You can get Moock's book for $26 on Powells:
> http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9780596526948-6
>
> Its been out for a while now though, so I would hit your local used
> bookstore, I'm willing to bet there's a few copies out there, you can
> probably score it for $10 or something.
>
> Not that Moock doesn't deserve full-price for this invaluable resource of
> course! And whatever you pay, it's simply required reading if you're
> serious about AS3.
>
> .m
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Karl DeSaulniers  >wrote:
>
> > Thank you John. Yes, I have already watched some really good tuts on
> > gotoandlearn and plan to watch more when I start working on my project.
> > My book is from lynda.com too. Going to invest in Moocks book as
> > suggested earlier as well. Just need to gen some funds. :)
> >
> > Karl DeSaulniers
> > Design Drumm
> > http://designdrumm.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 20, 2013, at 10:30 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:
> >
> > > Or subscribe to http://www.lynda.com
> > >
> > > Excellent training tutorials on tons of software. Very in-depth, but
> you
> > do pay for it.
> > >
> > > If you know AS2,  check out www.gotoandlearn.com. Many free tutorials
> > on specific tasks, but you'll see them working and their AS3 code, so you
> > can start making the correlation between what is different in 2 versus 3.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John R. Sweeney Jr.
> > > Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
> > > OnDemand Interactive Inc
> > > Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 20, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Rick Hassen wrote:
> > >
> > >> but you may want to consider getting a good AS3 book.
> > >
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Matt S.]

You can get Moock's book for $26 on Powells:
http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9780596526948-6

Its been out for a while now though, so I would hit your local used
bookstore, I'm willing to bet there's a few copies out there, you can
probably score it for $10 or something.

Not that Moock doesn't deserve full-price for this invaluable resource of
course! And whatever you pay, it's simply required reading if you're
serious about AS3.

.m



On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

> Thank you John. Yes, I have already watched some really good tuts on
> gotoandlearn and plan to watch more when I start working on my project.
> My book is from lynda.com too. Going to invest in Moocks book as
> suggested earlier as well. Just need to gen some funds. :)
>
> Karl DeSaulniers
> Design Drumm
> http://designdrumm.com
>
>
>
> On May 20, 2013, at 10:30 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:
>
> > Or subscribe to http://www.lynda.com
> >
> > Excellent training tutorials on tons of software. Very in-depth, but you
> do pay for it.
> >
> > If you know AS2,  check out www.gotoandlearn.com. Many free tutorials
> on specific tasks, but you'll see them working and their AS3 code, so you
> can start making the correlation between what is different in 2 versus 3.
> >
> >
> >
> > John R. Sweeney Jr.
> > Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
> > OnDemand Interactive Inc
> > Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 20, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Rick Hassen wrote:
> >
> >> but you may want to consider getting a good AS3 book.
> >
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Paul A.]

On 21/05/2013 05:04, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

Thank you Ktu.
That is what I was looking for.
I'd say the problem with asking questions like this is that you're 
getting answers to questions you shouldn't be asking at this stage of 
your AS3 experience. While you may get a "technical" answer, you miss 
out completely on the real question - in what circumstances would using 
a private class be of benefit (and why), and when should you not use a 
private class?


A book will teach you more than the technicalities.

To put this into context, about the only time I have ever used private 
classes is to enforce the creation of singleton classes. They are hardly 
an essential and I have written a ton of AS3 code over the years.


You also need to get a good grasp of design patterns - particularly MVC.

You can't get an overall view of best practice by asking these very 
particular questions when you don't have a bigger context to understand 
where a language feature fits well and where it doesn't.


The Moock book is popular and very detailed. I have it. Personally I 
think it's a bit heavy for a beginner to AS3 and I'd recommend (again) 
"learning actionscript 3" as a gentler start before tackling the Moock book.


This list can give you specific answers, but you really need the bigger 
picture.


Paul



Much thanks,

Best,

Karl DeSaulniers
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On May 20, 2013, at 10:58 PM, Ktu wrote:


you can have public class, internal class (limited to package), and you can
make pseudo private classes by declaring a class in the same file as
another class, but outside the package.

the main reason you write 'public class' is because the _default_ is
internal. if you simply say   class MyClass {}it is treated as internal.


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:


Thank you John. Yes, I have already watched some really good tuts on
gotoandlearn and plan to watch more when I start working on my project.
My book is from lynda.com too. Going to invest in Moocks book as
suggested earlier as well. Just need to gen some funds. :)

Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com



On May 20, 2013, at 10:30 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:


Or subscribe to http://www.lynda.com

Excellent training tutorials on tons of software. Very in-depth, but you

do pay for it.

If you know AS2,  check out www.gotoandlearn.com. Many free tutorials

on specific tasks, but you'll see them working and their AS3 code, so you
can start making the correlation between what is different in 2 versus 3.



John R. Sweeney Jr.
Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
OnDemand Interactive Inc
Hoffman Estates, IL 60169




On May 20, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Rick Hassen wrote:


but you may want to consider getting a good AS3 book.


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RE: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Cor]

Karl,

One: why doesn't ActionScript 3 allow private classes?
A: They are useless because they couldn't be used, I guess.
You can use a Class within a public class which then would be private to
that class it self.

Two: why is writing "public class" a best practice if "private class" does
not exist?
Look a the variations with static etc.

HTH
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Thank you Ktu.
That is what I was looking for.

Much thanks,

Best,

Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
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On May 20, 2013, at 10:58 PM, Ktu wrote:

> you can have public class, internal class (limited to package), and you can
> make pseudo private classes by declaring a class in the same file as
> another class, but outside the package.
> 
> the main reason you write 'public class' is because the _default_ is
> internal. if you simply say   class MyClass {}it is treated as internal.
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Karl DeSaulniers 
> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you John. Yes, I have already watched some really good tuts on
>> gotoandlearn and plan to watch more when I start working on my project.
>> My book is from lynda.com too. Going to invest in Moocks book as
>> suggested earlier as well. Just need to gen some funds. :)
>> 
>> Karl DeSaulniers
>> Design Drumm
>> http://designdrumm.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 20, 2013, at 10:30 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:
>> 
>>> Or subscribe to http://www.lynda.com
>>> 
>>> Excellent training tutorials on tons of software. Very in-depth, but you
>> do pay for it.
>>> 
>>> If you know AS2,  check out www.gotoandlearn.com. Many free tutorials
>> on specific tasks, but you'll see them working and their AS3 code, so you
>> can start making the correlation between what is different in 2 versus 3.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> John R. Sweeney Jr.
>>> Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
>>> OnDemand Interactive Inc
>>> Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 20, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Rick Hassen wrote:
>>> 
 but you may want to consider getting a good AS3 book.
>>> 
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[John R. Sweeney Jr.]

Yeah, we all have the bad problem of paying the rent and eating. :)

I know just what you mean. 

Good luck and like someone said before, we can't teach you AS3, but when you 
have specific problems or questions, feel free to ask the group. We've all 
needed help at one time or another and this has been a really good resource, 
quite often.


John R. Sweeney Jr.
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On May 20, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

> Just need to gen some funds. :) 


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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Ktu]

you can have public class, internal class (limited to package), and you can
make pseudo private classes by declaring a class in the same file as
another class, but outside the package.

the main reason you write 'public class' is because the _default_ is
internal. if you simply say   class MyClass {}it is treated as internal.


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

> Thank you John. Yes, I have already watched some really good tuts on
> gotoandlearn and plan to watch more when I start working on my project.
> My book is from lynda.com too. Going to invest in Moocks book as
> suggested earlier as well. Just need to gen some funds. :)
>
> Karl DeSaulniers
> Design Drumm
> http://designdrumm.com
>
>
>
> On May 20, 2013, at 10:30 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:
>
> > Or subscribe to http://www.lynda.com
> >
> > Excellent training tutorials on tons of software. Very in-depth, but you
> do pay for it.
> >
> > If you know AS2,  check out www.gotoandlearn.com. Many free tutorials
> on specific tasks, but you'll see them working and their AS3 code, so you
> can start making the correlation between what is different in 2 versus 3.
> >
> >
> >
> > John R. Sweeney Jr.
> > Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
> > OnDemand Interactive Inc
> > Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 20, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Rick Hassen wrote:
> >
> >> but you may want to consider getting a good AS3 book.
> >
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Thank you John. Yes, I have already watched some really good tuts on 
gotoandlearn and plan to watch more when I start working on my project. 
My book is from lynda.com too. Going to invest in Moocks book as suggested 
earlier as well. Just need to gen some funds. :) 

Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com



On May 20, 2013, at 10:30 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:

> Or subscribe to http://www.lynda.com
> 
> Excellent training tutorials on tons of software. Very in-depth, but you do 
> pay for it.
> 
> If you know AS2,  check out www.gotoandlearn.com. Many free tutorials on 
> specific tasks, but you'll see them working and their AS3 code, so you can 
> start making the correlation between what is different in 2 versus 3.
> 
> 
> 
> John R. Sweeney Jr.
> Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
> OnDemand Interactive Inc
> Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 20, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Rick Hassen wrote:
> 
>> but you may want to consider getting a good AS3 book. 
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[John R. Sweeney Jr.]

Or subscribe to http://www.lynda.com

Excellent training tutorials on tons of software. Very in-depth, but you do pay 
for it.

If you know AS2,  check out www.gotoandlearn.com. Many free tutorials on 
specific tasks, but you'll see them working and their AS3 code, so you can 
start making the correlation between what is different in 2 versus 3.



John R. Sweeney Jr.
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Hoffman Estates, IL 60169




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> but you may want to consider getting a good AS3 book. 


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RE: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Rick Hassen]

Hi Karl,
One: AS3 does allow private classes. Just not as the constructor class of the 
main file. ( I am not sure if subclasses can have private constructors but 
everything else can be private )Two: Private classes are a best practice, 
Internal is also good, public only when necessary to create an api.
Hope that helps. I don't know where you are getting your information, but you 
may want to consider getting a good AS3 book. 
Rick


> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..
> From: k...@designdrumm.com
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 20:58:41 -0500
> To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> 
> Quick two part question. 
> 
> One: why doesn't ActionScript 3 allow private classes?
> Two: why is writing "public class" a best practice if "private class" does 
> not exist?
> 
> I could not find an explination in the books I am studying so I thought I'd 
> ask here.
> TIA.
> 
> Best,
>   
> Karl DeSaulniers
> Design Drumm
> http://designdrumm.com
> 
> 
> 
> On May 19, 2013, at 6:01 AM, mike g wrote:
> 
> > Just wondering, has Colin Moock put forward any thoughts re.
> > Flash/Actionscript's future direction?
> > 
> > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Paul A.  wrote:
> > 
> >> On 19/05/2013 09:18, Hans Wichman wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Karl,
> >>> 
> >>> no harm intended, but do yourself and us a favor and get something like
> >>> Essential Actionscript 3 from Moock, it will save you lots and lots of
> >>> unnecessary self inflicted punishment :).
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> Excellent advice. Don't try and get to grips with the language via the
> >> forum.
> >> 
> >> This is a gentler introduction:
> >> 
> >> http://shop.oreilly.com/**product/0636920010401.do<http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920010401.do>
> >> 
> >> Also
> >> 
> >> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/**actionscript/learning.html<http://www.adobe.com/devnet/actionscript/learning.html>
> >> 
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Quick two part question. 

One: why doesn't ActionScript 3 allow private classes?
Two: why is writing "public class" a best practice if "private class" does not 
exist?

I could not find an explination in the books I am studying so I thought I'd ask 
here.
TIA.

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On May 19, 2013, at 6:01 AM, mike g wrote:

> Just wondering, has Colin Moock put forward any thoughts re.
> Flash/Actionscript's future direction?
> 
> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Paul A.  wrote:
> 
>> On 19/05/2013 09:18, Hans Wichman wrote:
>> 
>>> Karl,
>>> 
>>> no harm intended, but do yourself and us a favor and get something like
>>> Essential Actionscript 3 from Moock, it will save you lots and lots of
>>> unnecessary self inflicted punishment :).
>>> 
>>> 
>> Excellent advice. Don't try and get to grips with the language via the
>> forum.
>> 
>> This is a gentler introduction:
>> 
>> http://shop.oreilly.com/**product/0636920010401.do
>> 
>> Also
>> 
>> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/**actionscript/learning.html
>> 
>> Good luck
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[mike g]

Just wondering, has Colin Moock put forward any thoughts re.
Flash/Actionscript's future direction?

On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Paul A.  wrote:

> On 19/05/2013 09:18, Hans Wichman wrote:
>
>> Karl,
>>
>> no harm intended, but do yourself and us a favor and get something like
>> Essential Actionscript 3 from Moock, it will save you lots and lots of
>> unnecessary self inflicted punishment :).
>>
>>
> Excellent advice. Don't try and get to grips with the language via the
> forum.
>
> This is a gentler introduction:
>
> http://shop.oreilly.com/**product/0636920010401.do
>
> Also
>
> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/**actionscript/learning.html
>
> Good luck
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On 19/05/2013 09:18, Hans Wichman wrote:

Karl,

no harm intended, but do yourself and us a favor and get something 
like Essential Actionscript 3 from Moock, it will save you lots and 
lots of unnecessary self inflicted punishment :).




Excellent advice. Don't try and get to grips with the language via the 
forum.


This is a gentler introduction:

http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920010401.do

Also

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/actionscript/learning.html

Good luck

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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Henrik Andersson]

Hans Wichman skriver:
> 
> That said, AS3 is much more about (strong) typing than AS2 was.
> In that line of thinking, you need to specify exactly what types of
> parameters go into a method/function and what it returns, even if that
> "what" is nothing.
> The type of "Nothing" is this respect is void.
> 

Need and need, it is good practice. So good that some compilers will
raise a warning if you fail to do it.

The point of void here is twofold, to let the compiler check that the
return statement doesn't try to return anything and to let the compiler
check that the caller isn't expecting a return value. Other types have
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[Hans Wichman]

Karl,

no harm intended, but do yourself and us a favor and get something like 
Essential Actionscript 3 from Moock, it will save you lots and lots of 
unnecessary self inflicted punishment :).


That said, AS3 is much more about (strong) typing than AS2 was.
In that line of thinking, you need to specify exactly what types of 
parameters go into a method/function and what it returns, even if that 
"what" is nothing.

The type of "Nothing" is this respect is void.

//i return a number
function bla():Number {
return 10;
}

//i return nothing
function bla():void {
//im not giving you anything!
//
//implicit return
}

//i return nothing as well
function bla():void {
//explicit return
if (myConditionNotMet) return;

//some other stuff here
//...
//implicit return
}

If you go the corporal punishment route, there is some good info here: 
http://owhips.com/


;)

Best
H



On 19-5-2013 9:34, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

In place of void?
so like...

function someFunc():Number
{
//return a number
}

function someFunc():String
{
//return a string
}

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On May 19, 2013, at 12:26 AM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:


Void was AS2 and wasn't really necessary.

void is AS3 and since it uses strong typing, very necessary. void will not 
return anything. If you want back values (numeric) use Number (text) use 
String, etc.


John R. Sweeney Jr.
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OnDemand Interactive Inc
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On May 18, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:


My first question.

What is the purpose of "void" versus "Void"? When do you use "void" and "Void" and when 
is it not needed or wise to use "void" on a function? I may have asked this a few years ago, but can not find any of 
the emails, so if its a duplicate I apologize.


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[Karl DeSaulniers]

In place of void?
so like...

function someFunc():Number
{
//return a number
}

function someFunc():String
{
//return a string
}

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On May 19, 2013, at 12:26 AM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:

> Void was AS2 and wasn't really necessary.
> 
> void is AS3 and since it uses strong typing, very necessary. void will not 
> return anything. If you want back values (numeric) use Number (text) use 
> String, etc. 
> 
> 
> John R. Sweeney Jr.
> Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
> OnDemand Interactive Inc
> Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 18, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
> 
>> My first question.
>> 
>> What is the purpose of "void" versus "Void"? When do you use "void" and 
>> "Void" and when is it not needed or wise to use "void" on a function? I may 
>> have asked this a few years ago, but can not find any of the emails, so if 
>> its a duplicate I apologize.
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Void was AS2 and wasn't really necessary.

void is AS3 and since it uses strong typing, very necessary. void will not 
return anything. If you want back values (numeric) use Number (text) use 
String, etc. 


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On May 18, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

> My first question.
> 
> What is the purpose of "void" versus "Void"? When do you use "void" and 
> "Void" and when is it not needed or wise to use "void" on a function? I may 
> have asked this a few years ago, but can not find any of the emails, so if 
> its a duplicate I apologize.


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[Flashcoders] AS3 finally..

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Hello fellow Flashers,
Been a while. Ok, its time. I am now going to learn AS3 for real.. lol
I know I know... please no comments from the peanut gallery.
I am also making my first AS3 lesson an iPhone app. Whoo hoo! (Im a glutton for 
punishment I guess)
So, I will have some more questions regarding that process here in the near 
future I am sure.

My first question.

What is the purpose of "void" versus "Void"? When do you use "void" and "Void" 
and when is it not needed or wise to use "void" on a function? I may have asked 
this a few years ago, but can not find any of the emails, so if its a duplicate 
I apologize.

IE

function someFunc():void
{
//do something
}

function someFunc():Void
{
//do something
}

function someFunc() {
//do something
}

If I understand correctly, to use "void", your function can not return any 
values? It can only manipulate things?
I don't fully understand "Void" with a Cap V, so will need enlightenment.
To have a function return a value with the "return" statement, "void" should be 
voided?? (sry. had to)

If you want to answer directly, please, be my guest. If you want to send me 
somewhere to learn, by all means. I'll take what I can get.
Hopefully my being a newbie and asking questions right now will fervor some 
lost zeal in some people and they will want to help me. :)

(fingers crossed)

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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Hans Wichman]

ah well if asnext/as4 is better then its actionscript is dead, long live 
actionscript:)

Sent from my iPad

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> I literally meant AS3 is dying. Adobe does have their replacement (check some 
> recent discussions on the Apache Flex-dev mailing list ;-) ). Hopefully it'll 
> revitalize things a bit.
> 
> Kevin N.
> 
> 
> On 10/28/2012 7:24 AM, Hans Wichman wrote:
>> I think the heart of the matter is that in my opinion actionscript/flash is 
>> not dying,
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Kevin Newman]

I literally meant AS3 is dying. Adobe does have their replacement (check 
some recent discussions on the Apache Flex-dev mailing list ;-) ). 
Hopefully it'll revitalize things a bit.


Kevin N.


On 10/28/2012 7:24 AM, Hans Wichman wrote:
I think the heart of the matter is that in my opinion 
actionscript/flash is not dying,


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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Hans Wichman]

Sorry for the late reply, I was pondering about how to bring this 
without going into a flash vs html5 debate (been there done that).
So I think to sum it up, I think the heart of the matter is that in my 
opinion actionscript/flash is not dying, it's moving and growing towards 
where its strengths lie.
In some industries that might mean it feels as if it is dying, but the 
conclusion might just as well be:
- if I want to keep doing website/webapplication work I might have to 
add html5/css/javascript to my skillset OR
- if I want to keep doing actionscript/flash work I might have to move 
towards gaming, gamification, serious games, desktop apps, mobile apps 
and other fields of work (maybe even a teacher)


Anyway I could go on and on but that pretty much sums it up I think. 
Even is there is an as4 or asnext (which appearently there is or will 
be), that only means we can migrate to as4 *not *that flash or adobe air 
or adobe air for mobile is dead. For those of you fearing to move to 
mobile using flash, yeah there is a steep learning curve and yeah there 
are pitfalls and yeah it is a lot of work blahblah, but it's fun, it 
works and most of it is very doable. Unity3D is a very nice option as 
well to move to if you are into platform independent game development 
etc etc.


My 2 cents, this is not to disregard your opinion that flash in your 
industry is dying, I can only take your word for it, nor to say that I 
sometimes don't have sleepless nights as a fulltime freelancer, but anyway;)


JC

On 26/10/2012 19:53, Kevin Newman wrote:

But why? :-)

To add a little bit - perhaps AS3 is only dying in some industries 
(like mine). But surely once ASNext ships, AS3 will become the next 
AS2 (which has been diminishing for years now).


Kevin N.


On 10/26/12 1:44 PM, Hans Wichman wrote:

I call bs:)


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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Kevin Newman]

There is absolutely definitely going to be /something/. ASNext is what 
it's called in the roadmap:


http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html

Kevin N.


On 10/26/2012 2:28 PM, Kerry Thompson wrote:

I don't think there is going to be an AS4.


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[Peter Ginneberge]

AS4 is on the way, including a new VM to support it.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kerry Thompson" 

To: "Flash Coders List" 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3



I don't think there is going to be an AS4. The ECMA Script committee was
working on a new standard at one point, but they disbanded 2-3 years ago
without issuing a standard for ECMA Script 4.

Adobe have been adding capabilities, such as sort, and I expect they will
continue to add capabilities. They might even call a new release
ActionScript 4, but it won't meet any ECMA standard.

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. AS3 is a mature, robust
language that has most of the features found in Java, JavaScript, and even
C++. To go much beyond what they already have, it would almost mean a whole
new programming paradigm.

Cordially,

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[Kevin Newman]

True enough - I keep hoping we'll get renewed interest in AIR apps on 
mobile, but the brand has taken such a beating no one seems willing to 
promote the usefulness of AIR that way. In my view, it's just as easy to 
make an awesome app experience in AIR as it has always been out of Flash 
Pro and/or with pure AS3 (not speaking about RIAs/Flex). It's not like 
there were ever great component tools out of Flash Pro (the ugly forms, 
bleh!), so we all have plenty of experience creating all that from 
scratch (and frankly I prefer that anyway). Nothing has changed for 
those of us who always used Flash that way. Add in Stage3D - the sky is 
the limit. It's just no one wants to hear about Flash anymore.


But yeah, AS3 is still one of my favorite languages. TypeScript looks 
good, and I'd really love to dive into Google's Go Lang - that looks 
awesome! I'm stuck in hopeless PHP most of the time these days. :-/


Kevin N.


On 10/26/12 4:54 PM, Merrill, Jason wrote:

It's the platform that is taking the big hit (Flash player)  therefore AS3 is 
decreasing in use because the platform is decreasing in use. It's not because 
AS3 lost favorability, the player did.


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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Yeah the css thing got me for a while.

$('#myElement').css('top', '0px');
$('#myElement').css('left', '0px');

or

$('#myElement').css('top', '0px').css('left', '0px');

or

$('#myElement').css({'top':'100px', 'left': '0px'});

Does the same thing.

:-/

Karl


On Oct 26, 2012, at 8:21 AM, David Hunter wrote:


I'm on my first "serious" project using js.

Some of it is pretty neat and simple and all the AS3 knowledge makes
grabbing and treating elements (for animation and what not) very  
easy. I
would definitely recommend using jQuery, and I am using jQuery  
Transit for
some animations. However some of it baffles me, mainly stuff with  
CSS and
positioning elements (which I thought I was OK with) and has added a  
lot of
un-chargeable time. But in the long run I'm sure we will all adjust.  
I'd
really like to learn to approach javascript from a class-based  
approach, so

I must check out some of the links posted on this thread.

Good luck to all making the transition!

David

On 25 October 2012 20:23, Karl DeSaulniers   
wrote:



jQuery I think  you will find is a very friendly language.
Once you get into jQuery UI and jQuery animation, I think that is  
when

your wheels will churn most.

Best of luck!

Karl



On Oct 25, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote:

I'm about to start my first HTML5/CSS3/Javascript job - wish me  
luck! :)
Going through a lot of courses on Lynda.com - completed some  
Javascript
courses and jQuery, now enjoying Lee Brimlow's HTML 5 For Flash  
Developers

course right now. Good stuff - I wish Javascript was a more advanced
language but it has some pretty cool features.

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Yay!
I just completed my first AS3 job Go Me!

:P

Best,
Karl


On Oct 25, 2012, at 8:48 AM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:

And we'll be there again, I'm sure... :)


John

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No worries - we've all been there.





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RE: [Flashcoders] AS3

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>>I hate to say it, but AS3 is kind of dying. 

It's the platform that is taking the big hit (Flash player)  therefore AS3 is 
decreasing in use because the platform is decreasing in use. It's not because 
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I don't think there is going to be an AS4. The ECMA Script committee was 
working on a new standard at one point, but they disbanded 2-3 years ago 
without issuing a standard for ECMA Script 4.

Adobe have been adding capabilities, such as sort, and I expect they will 
continue to add capabilities. They might even call a new release ActionScript 
4, but it won't meet any ECMA standard.

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. AS3 is a mature, robust language 
that has most of the features found in Java, JavaScript, and even
C++. To go much beyond what they already have, it would almost mean a 
C++whole
new programming paradigm.

Cordially,

Kerry Thompson

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> I hate to say it, but AS3 is kind of dying. My hope is AS4 (or 
> whatever they end up calling Actionscript Next) with it's gaming 
> focus, will revitalize things a bit.
>
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

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And don't forget, without being as feature complete as well.

Kevin N.


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hmmm, nowhere near as mature as haxe and haxe compiles to JS without
needing a "lightweight runtime" either.


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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[tom rhodes]

"Also, there is Jangaroo, which compiles AS3 to JS. That is closer to AS3
than haXe. ;-)"

hmmm, nowhere near as mature as haxe and haxe compiles to JS without
needing a "lightweight runtime" either.

the lack of a standard for ECMA script 4 is interesting, adobe has put
there plans forward here
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html for
actionscript next.

On 26 October 2012 20:28, Kerry Thompson  wrote:

> I don't think there is going to be an AS4. The ECMA Script committee was
> working on a new standard at one point, but they disbanded 2-3 years ago
> without issuing a standard for ECMA Script 4.
>
> Adobe have been adding capabilities, such as sort, and I expect they will
> continue to add capabilities. They might even call a new release
> ActionScript 4, but it won't meet any ECMA standard.
>
> I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. AS3 is a mature, robust
> language that has most of the features found in Java, JavaScript, and even
> C++. To go much beyond what they already have, it would almost mean a whole
> new programming paradigm.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Kerry Thompson
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Kevin Newman 
> wrote:
>
> > I hate to say it, but AS3 is kind of dying. My hope is AS4 (or whatever
> > they end up calling Actionscript Next) with it's gaming focus, will
> > revitalize things a bit.
> >
> > Kevin N.
> >
> >
> > On 10/26/12 11:11 AM, tom rhodes wrote:
> >
> >> how depressing that a simple AS3 question has turned into a thread about
> >> how everyone is now coding JS!!
> >>
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Kerry Thompson]

I don't think there is going to be an AS4. The ECMA Script committee was
working on a new standard at one point, but they disbanded 2-3 years ago
without issuing a standard for ECMA Script 4.

Adobe have been adding capabilities, such as sort, and I expect they will
continue to add capabilities. They might even call a new release
ActionScript 4, but it won't meet any ECMA standard.

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. AS3 is a mature, robust
language that has most of the features found in Java, JavaScript, and even
C++. To go much beyond what they already have, it would almost mean a whole
new programming paradigm.

Cordially,

Kerry Thompson

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Kevin Newman  wrote:

> I hate to say it, but AS3 is kind of dying. My hope is AS4 (or whatever
> they end up calling Actionscript Next) with it's gaming focus, will
> revitalize things a bit.
>
> Kevin N.
>
>
> On 10/26/12 11:11 AM, tom rhodes wrote:
>
>> how depressing that a simple AS3 question has turned into a thread about
>> how everyone is now coding JS!!
>>
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Kevin Newman]

But why? :-)

To add a little bit - perhaps AS3 is only dying in some industries (like 
mine). But surely once ASNext ships, AS3 will become the next AS2 (which 
has been diminishing for years now).


Kevin N.


On 10/26/12 1:44 PM, Hans Wichman wrote:

I call bs:)


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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Hans Wichman]

I call bs :)
Op 26 okt. 2012 19:34 schreef "Kevin Newman"  het
volgende:

> I hate to say it, but AS3 is kind of dying. My hope is AS4 (or whatever
> they end up calling Actionscript Next) with it's gaming focus, will
> revitalize things a bit.
>
> Kevin N.
>
>
> On 10/26/12 11:11 AM, tom rhodes wrote:
>
>> how depressing that a simple AS3 question has turned into a thread about
>> how everyone is now coding JS!!
>>
>
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Kevin Newman]

I hate to say it, but AS3 is kind of dying. My hope is AS4 (or whatever 
they end up calling Actionscript Next) with it's gaming focus, will 
revitalize things a bit.


Kevin N.


On 10/26/12 11:11 AM, tom rhodes wrote:

how depressing that a simple AS3 question has turned into a thread about
how everyone is now coding JS!!


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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Kevin Newman]

Where it gets complicated is when you do inheritance. You can do it this 
way:


(function(window){

function Person(name, address){
this.name = name;
this.address = address;
}

Person.prototype = {
sayHello: function() {
console.log(this.name + " says hello 
from"+this.address);
};
};

Person.SPECIES = "human";

function NeoPerson(name, address){
// kind of like super()
Person.call( this, name, address );
// or (you only need one)
Person.apply( this, arguments );
}
// protects the prototype chain, without invoking the parent constructor
// Object.create will need a polyfill in some browsers.
NeoPerson.prototype = Object.create( Person.prototype );

// manually sync class props
NeoPerson.SPECIES = Person.SPECIES;

// can't use object literal syntax in child classes
NeoPerson.prototype.sayHello = function() {
// call parent method
Person.prototype.sayHello.call( this );
console.log(this.name + " says \"I know Kung Fu.\" ");
}

window.Person = Person;
window.NeoPerson = NeoPerson;

})(window);

var foo = new NeoPerson( 'Neo', 'somewhere' );
foo.sayHello();
// logs both sayHellos

But you can see how verbose that it, which is why it can be useful to 
use a framework like Ross's or underscore.js.


Also, there is Jangaroo, which compiles AS3 to JS. That is closer to AS3 
than haXe. ;-)


Personally, I'm a big fan of TypeScript from what I've seen so far. I'll 
be looking at that much more closely soon.


Kevin N.



On 10/26/12 11:30 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote:

Yeah, unfortunately the world has accepted Javascript without much complaint. 
But here's a simple example of simulating a class in Javascript - put this in a 
js file:

(function(window){

function Person(name, address){
this.name = name;
this.address = address;
}

Person.prototype.sayHello = function(){
console.log(this.name + " says hello from"+this.address);
};

Person.SPECIES = "human";

window.Person = Person;

}(window));


Then in HTML you can do this after importing the above js file:

var jason = new Person("Jason Merrill", "123 Smith Street");
jason.sayHello();


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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

Thanks Kevin, I guess what I meant was a more object orientated approach, which 
I have enjoyed learning and using in AS3. I'll look into those libraries you 
mentioned.

David

On 26 October 2012 16:11, tom rhodes  wrote:


how depressing that a simple AS3 question has turned into a thread
about how everyone is now coding JS!!

whilst we're on that subject though...

http://haxe.org/doc/targets/js
http://www.haxejs.org/

is about as close as you are going to get to AS3 in terms of JS. i
can't recommend haxe enough for a million reasons but the JS target
has just improved massively in the code it generates and haxe 3 is a
few months away which should have the complete html5 spec covered as
standard, including webgl.

On 26 October 2012 16:40, Ross Sclafani  wrote:


my framework lets you code like this:


_package('com.neuromantic.display.shapes',

 _import( 'com.neuromantic.display.shapes.Oval'),

 _class( 'Circle' )._extends( 'Oval',{
 Circle: function ( size ) {
 this._super( size, size );
 }

 })
);



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observation.

On Oct 26, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Kevin Newman  wrote:


JS doesn't have classes, and emulating them is somewhat tricky
using

the

prototype chain (it can be done though).

The easiest way to emulate classes though is to use a framework
like

underscore.js (which Backbone.js is built on).

Kevin N.


On 10/26/12 9:21 AM, David Hunter wrote:

I'd
really like to learn to approach javascript from a class-based

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RE: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Merrill, Jason]

Yeah, unfortunately the world has accepted Javascript without much complaint. 
But here's a simple example of simulating a class in Javascript - put this in a 
js file:

(function(window){

function Person(name, address){
this.name = name;
this.address = address;
}

Person.prototype.sayHello = function(){
console.log(this.name + " says hello from"+this.address);
};

Person.SPECIES = "human";

window.Person = Person;

}(window));


Then in HTML you can do this after importing the above js file:

var jason = new Person("Jason Merrill", "123 Smith Street");
jason.sayHello();


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[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of David Hunter
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 11:23 AM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

Thanks Kevin, I guess what I meant was a more object orientated approach, which 
I have enjoyed learning and using in AS3. I'll look into those libraries you 
mentioned.

David

On 26 October 2012 16:11, tom rhodes  wrote:

> how depressing that a simple AS3 question has turned into a thread 
> about how everyone is now coding JS!!
>
> whilst we're on that subject though...
>
> http://haxe.org/doc/targets/js
> http://www.haxejs.org/
>
> is about as close as you are going to get to AS3 in terms of JS. i 
> can't recommend haxe enough for a million reasons but the JS target 
> has just improved massively in the code it generates and haxe 3 is a 
> few months away which should have the complete html5 spec covered as 
> standard, including webgl.
>
> On 26 October 2012 16:40, Ross Sclafani  wrote:
>
> > my framework lets you code like this:
> >
> >
> > _package('com.neuromantic.display.shapes',
> >
> > _import( 'com.neuromantic.display.shapes.Oval'),
> >
> > _class( 'Circle' )._extends( 'Oval',{
> > Circle: function ( size ) {
> > this._super( size, size );
> > }
> >
> > })
> > );
> >
> >
> >
> > Ross P. Sclafani
> > design / technology / creative
> >
> > http://ross.sclafani.net
> > http://www.twitter.com/rosssclafani
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/rosssclafani
> > [347] 204.5714
> >
> >
> >
> > let go of even your longest held beliefs, the only truth is in 
> > observation.
> >
> > On Oct 26, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Kevin Newman  wrote:
> >
> > > JS doesn't have classes, and emulating them is somewhat tricky 
> > > using
> the
> > prototype chain (it can be done though).
> > >
> > > The easiest way to emulate classes though is to use a framework 
> > > like
> > underscore.js (which Backbone.js is built on).
> > >
> > > Kevin N.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/26/12 9:21 AM, David Hunter wrote:
> > >> I'd
> > >> really like to learn to approach javascript from a class-based
> approach,
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[David Hunter]

Thanks Kevin, I guess what I meant was a more object orientated approach,
which I have enjoyed learning and using in AS3. I'll look into those
libraries you mentioned.

David

On 26 October 2012 16:11, tom rhodes  wrote:

> how depressing that a simple AS3 question has turned into a thread about
> how everyone is now coding JS!!
>
> whilst we're on that subject though...
>
> http://haxe.org/doc/targets/js
> http://www.haxejs.org/
>
> is about as close as you are going to get to AS3 in terms of JS. i can't
> recommend haxe enough for a million reasons but the JS target has just
> improved massively in the code it generates and haxe 3 is a few months away
> which should have the complete html5 spec covered as standard, including
> webgl.
>
> On 26 October 2012 16:40, Ross Sclafani  wrote:
>
> > my framework lets you code like this:
> >
> >
> > _package('com.neuromantic.display.shapes',
> >
> > _import( 'com.neuromantic.display.shapes.Oval'),
> >
> > _class( 'Circle' )._extends( 'Oval',{
> > Circle: function ( size ) {
> > this._super( size, size );
> > }
> >
> > })
> > );
> >
> >
> >
> > Ross P. Sclafani
> > design / technology / creative
> >
> > http://ross.sclafani.net
> > http://www.twitter.com/rosssclafani
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/rosssclafani
> > [347] 204.5714
> >
> >
> >
> > let go of even your longest held beliefs,
> > the only truth is in observation.
> >
> > On Oct 26, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Kevin Newman  wrote:
> >
> > > JS doesn't have classes, and emulating them is somewhat tricky using
> the
> > prototype chain (it can be done though).
> > >
> > > The easiest way to emulate classes though is to use a framework like
> > underscore.js (which Backbone.js is built on).
> > >
> > > Kevin N.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/26/12 9:21 AM, David Hunter wrote:
> > >> I'd
> > >> really like to learn to approach javascript from a class-based
> approach,
> > >
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[tom rhodes]

how depressing that a simple AS3 question has turned into a thread about
how everyone is now coding JS!!

whilst we're on that subject though...

http://haxe.org/doc/targets/js
http://www.haxejs.org/

is about as close as you are going to get to AS3 in terms of JS. i can't
recommend haxe enough for a million reasons but the JS target has just
improved massively in the code it generates and haxe 3 is a few months away
which should have the complete html5 spec covered as standard, including
webgl.

On 26 October 2012 16:40, Ross Sclafani  wrote:

> my framework lets you code like this:
>
>
> _package('com.neuromantic.display.shapes',
>
> _import( 'com.neuromantic.display.shapes.Oval'),
>
> _class( 'Circle' )._extends( 'Oval',{
> Circle: function ( size ) {
> this._super( size, size );
> }
>
> })
> );
>
>
>
> Ross P. Sclafani
> design / technology / creative
>
> http://ross.sclafani.net
> http://www.twitter.com/rosssclafani
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/rosssclafani
> [347] 204.5714
>
>
>
> let go of even your longest held beliefs,
> the only truth is in observation.
>
> On Oct 26, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Kevin Newman  wrote:
>
> > JS doesn't have classes, and emulating them is somewhat tricky using the
> prototype chain (it can be done though).
> >
> > The easiest way to emulate classes though is to use a framework like
> underscore.js (which Backbone.js is built on).
> >
> > Kevin N.
> >
> >
> > On 10/26/12 9:21 AM, David Hunter wrote:
> >> I'd
> >> really like to learn to approach javascript from a class-based approach,
> >
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Ross Sclafani]

my framework lets you code like this:


_package('com.neuromantic.display.shapes',

_import( 'com.neuromantic.display.shapes.Oval'),

_class( 'Circle' )._extends( 'Oval',{
Circle: function ( size ) {
this._super( size, size );
}

})
);



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let go of even your longest held beliefs,
the only truth is in observation.

On Oct 26, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Kevin Newman  wrote:

> JS doesn't have classes, and emulating them is somewhat tricky using the 
> prototype chain (it can be done though).
> 
> The easiest way to emulate classes though is to use a framework like 
> underscore.js (which Backbone.js is built on).
> 
> Kevin N.
> 
> 
> On 10/26/12 9:21 AM, David Hunter wrote:
>> I'd
>> really like to learn to approach javascript from a class-based approach,
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Kevin Newman]

JS doesn't have classes, and emulating them is somewhat tricky using the 
prototype chain (it can be done though).


The easiest way to emulate classes though is to use a framework like 
underscore.js (which Backbone.js is built on).


Kevin N.


On 10/26/12 9:21 AM, David Hunter wrote:

I'd
really like to learn to approach javascript from a class-based approach,


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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[David Hunter]

I'm on my first "serious" project using js.

Some of it is pretty neat and simple and all the AS3 knowledge makes
grabbing and treating elements (for animation and what not) very easy. I
would definitely recommend using jQuery, and I am using jQuery Transit for
some animations. However some of it baffles me, mainly stuff with CSS and
positioning elements (which I thought I was OK with) and has added a lot of
un-chargeable time. But in the long run I'm sure we will all adjust. I'd
really like to learn to approach javascript from a class-based approach, so
I must check out some of the links posted on this thread.

Good luck to all making the transition!

David

On 25 October 2012 20:23, Karl DeSaulniers  wrote:

> jQuery I think  you will find is a very friendly language.
> Once you get into jQuery UI and jQuery animation, I think that is when
> your wheels will churn most.
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Karl
>
>
>
> On Oct 25, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote:
>
>  I'm about to start my first HTML5/CSS3/Javascript job - wish me luck! :)
>> Going through a lot of courses on Lynda.com - completed some Javascript
>> courses and jQuery, now enjoying Lee Brimlow's HTML 5 For Flash Developers
>> course right now. Good stuff - I wish Javascript was a more advanced
>> language but it has some pretty cool features.
>>
>> Jason Merrill
>> Instructional Technology Architect II
>> Bank of America  Global Learning
>> 703.302.9265 (w/h)
>>
>>
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>> flashcoders-bounces@chattyfig.**figleaf.com[mailto:
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>> On Behalf Of Karl DeSaulniers
>> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:59 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3
>>
>> Yay!
>> I just completed my first AS3 job Go Me!
>>
>> :P
>>
>> Best,
>> Karl
>>
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2012, at 8:48 AM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:
>>
>>  And we'll be there again, I'm sure... :)
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> John R. Sweeney Jr.
>>> Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc
>>> Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 25, 2012, at 3:15 AM, Paul A. wrote:
>>>
>>>  No worries - we've all been there.
>>>>
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Karl DeSaulniers]

jQuery I think  you will find is a very friendly language.
Once you get into jQuery UI and jQuery animation, I think that is when  
your wheels will churn most.


Best of luck!

Karl


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I'm about to start my first HTML5/CSS3/Javascript job - wish me  
luck! :) Going through a lot of courses on Lynda.com - completed  
some Javascript courses and jQuery, now enjoying Lee Brimlow's HTML  
5 For Flash Developers course right now. Good stuff - I wish  
Javascript was a more advanced language but it has some pretty cool  
features.


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Yay!
I just completed my first AS3 job Go Me!

:P

Best,
Karl


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And we'll be there again, I'm sure... :)

John

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[Merrill, Jason]

Yeah, been looking to someday switch to Java and use GWT to export to 
Javascript but think it's wise to get really comfortable with JS first. I'm 
comfortable with the language, just haven't done much in the way of application 
yet. I've been programmed by a full 10 years of Actionscript. 

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or you can just turn it into an advanced language.

https://github.com/neuromantic/CodeJS/blob/master/doc/README.markdown


On Oct 25, 2012, at 11:35 AM, "Merrill, Jason" 
 wrote:

> I'm about to start my first HTML5/CSS3/Javascript job - wish me luck! :) 
> Going through a lot of courses on Lynda.com - completed some Javascript 
> courses and jQuery, now enjoying Lee Brimlow's HTML 5 For Flash Developers 
> course right now. Good stuff - I wish Javascript was a more advanced language 
> but it has some pretty cool features.
> 
> Jason Merrill
> Instructional Technology Architect II
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> 703.302.9265 (w/h)
> 
> 
> 
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> [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl 
> DeSaulniers
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:59 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3
> 
> Yay!
> I just completed my first AS3 job Go Me!
> 
> :P
> 
> Best,
> Karl
> 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2012, at 8:48 AM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:
> 
>> And we'll be there again, I'm sure... :)
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> John R. Sweeney Jr.
>> Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc 
>> Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[Ross P. Sclafani]

or you can just turn it into an advanced language.

https://github.com/neuromantic/CodeJS/blob/master/doc/README.markdown


On Oct 25, 2012, at 11:35 AM, "Merrill, Jason" 
 wrote:

> I'm about to start my first HTML5/CSS3/Javascript job - wish me luck! :) 
> Going through a lot of courses on Lynda.com - completed some Javascript 
> courses and jQuery, now enjoying Lee Brimlow's HTML 5 For Flash Developers 
> course right now. Good stuff - I wish Javascript was a more advanced language 
> but it has some pretty cool features.
> 
> Jason Merrill
> Instructional Technology Architect II
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> 703.302.9265 (w/h)
> 
> 
> 
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> [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl 
> DeSaulniers
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:59 AM
> To: Flash Coders List
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3
> 
> Yay!
> I just completed my first AS3 job Go Me!
> 
> :P
> 
> Best,
> Karl
> 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2012, at 8:48 AM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:
> 
>> And we'll be there again, I'm sure... :)
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> John R. Sweeney Jr.
>> Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc 
>> Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Kevin Newman]

There are some things that are quite nice about JS, but it can be hard 
to get used to closures over classes, and that kind of thing.


If you are looking for library suggestions, I loved Backbone.js, but 
Flex folks seem to prefer Angular.js. QUnit is actually a lot of fun too 
(I haven't found another Unit testing framework on other platforms that 
I like quite as much).


One more unsolicited suggestion - add "use strict"; inside your JS files 
(inside a closure). This turns on some compiler like functionality in JS 
consoles, to cache typos and things like that, which normally fail 
silently. Also, you can enable stack traces in FireBug, if you are 
developing in Firefox (took me a while to find that).


Good luck!

Kevin N.


On 10/25/12 11:35 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote:

I'm about to start my first HTML5/CSS3/Javascript job - wish me luck! :) Going 
through a lot of courses on Lynda.com - completed some Javascript courses and 
jQuery, now enjoying Lee Brimlow's HTML 5 For Flash Developers course right 
now. Good stuff - I wish Javascript was a more advanced language but it has 
some pretty cool features.

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[Cor]

Hi Jason,

Me too. :-)

Be sure to look at http://www.greensock.com/get-started-js/

regards
Cor van Dooren
The Netherlands


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I'm about to start my first HTML5/CSS3/Javascript job - wish me luck! :) Going 
through a lot of courses on Lynda.com - completed some Javascript courses and 
jQuery, now enjoying Lee Brimlow's HTML 5 For Flash Developers course right 
now. Good stuff - I wish Javascript was a more advanced language but it has 
some pretty cool features.

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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

Yay!
I just completed my first AS3 job Go Me!

:P

Best,
Karl


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> And we'll be there again, I'm sure... :)
>
> John
>
> John R. Sweeney Jr.
> Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc 
> Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
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[Merrill, Jason]

I'm about to start my first HTML5/CSS3/Javascript job - wish me luck! :) Going 
through a lot of courses on Lynda.com - completed some Javascript courses and 
jQuery, now enjoying Lee Brimlow's HTML 5 For Flash Developers course right 
now. Good stuff - I wish Javascript was a more advanced language but it has 
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Yay!
I just completed my first AS3 job Go Me!

:P

Best,
Karl


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> And we'll be there again, I'm sure... :)
>
> John
>
> John R. Sweeney Jr.
> Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc 
> Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
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Congratulations…

John

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Yay!
I just completed my first AS3 job Go Me!

:P

Best,
Karl


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And we'll be there again, I'm sure… :)

John

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And we'll be there again, I'm sure… :)

John

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No worries - we've all been there.

On 25/10/2012 09:08, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

Well, got an update on the progress.
First off, thank you all for your participation in helping me with my 
problem.

Unfortunately this was a case of epic fail on my part.
movieClipOverButtonitis was the disease.

Seems the frame MC I had over the scene was blocking my button,
so the code I wrote originally, now works. Instead I took the hole the 
frame made for the scene to show through.
Filled it with red, deleted the frame and used the red box to mask the 
scene.

Same effect, just no movieClip in the way... >_<

So if I wasted anyones time with this question, I deeply apologize.

Thanks again people... YOU ROCK!

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[Karl DeSaulniers]

Well, got an update on the progress.
First off, thank you all for your participation in helping me with my  
problem.

Unfortunately this was a case of epic fail on my part.
movieClipOverButtonitis was the disease.

Seems the frame MC I had over the scene was blocking my button,
so the code I wrote originally, now works. Instead I took the hole the  
frame made for the scene to show through.
Filled it with red, deleted the frame and used the red box to mask the  
scene.

Same effect, just no movieClip in the way... >_<

So if I wasted anyones time with this question, I deeply apologize.

Thanks again people... YOU ROCK!

Best
Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:


That didn't fix my problem. :(
I got all excited too.. lol

Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:


I did start with a AS2 FLA and switched to AS3.
So your saying the IDE does not add the appropriate stuff when you  
just convert?

WTF! Good to know Kevin.
Thanks

Best,
Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Kevin Newman wrote:

When I first started in AS3, there were two blocks that caught me  
up a lot. I started from an older AS2 FLA and then converted to  
AS3 - that was the cause of the problem.


If you do that, you end up with an AS3 fla that doesn't have the  
right settings in the AS3 Properties panel. You won't have  
automatically declare stage instance set, or strict mode (you want  
both).


Also, to get actual line numbers with errors, you'll need to check  
"allow debugging" in publish settings - I know it sounds like it's  
a permissions thing, but it really enables debugging symbols to be  
embedded in the swf, so that when you get an error, you'll  
actually get a useful error number with it.


Good luck!

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[Kevin Newman]

There might be other problems I have forgotten about (I made the switch 
a long time ago) - do you have any specific examples of problem areas? 
(You should at least be getting line numbers during errors with "permit 
debugging" checked - that's a huge help).


If you've already gone down the path of defining all your stage elements 
as properties, you'll also have to undo all that.


Another big thing is how to reach into a child-clip's properties - which 
the compiler won't let you do with children that aren't dynamic - unless 
you cast to that object's specific class, or a dynamic class (like 
MovieClip). So for the short term, it's probably easier to stick with 
MovieClip, or a custom Sprite derived class marked with dynamic, until 
you really get used to static typing and casting.


On the opposite side, there's getting access to parent clip's props and 
methods. The other coders on the list may wag their fingers at me for 
this - but this is how you can do it:


// in some child clip that you want to access the parent's public 
functions and properties

(parent as MovieClip).method();
// or
var _parent:* = parent; // I think this works..
_parent.method();

The problem with doing things this way, is you can get some pretty 
cryptic error messages (but that was true in AS2 as well).


I think (I can't remember how AS2 works, it's been a while), you have to 
change properties to be more explicit in AS3 - so if you want them to be 
properties they have to be preceded with `this.` in AS3, so:


// to make this accessible to parent or children
this.method = function(){}
// instead of
var method = function(){}
// or
function method(){}

// if you already have local references that don't use `this.`, you can 
do both

this.method = function method(){}
// or
var method = this.method = function(){} // or some value

I actually really recommend starting from scratch on some project with 
AS3, rather than converting an older fla. When I did that, is when I 
started to figure out how AS3 stuff works.


Oh, another thing is targeting Flash 9 is buggy (the MovieClip object 
doesn't work right). Adobe fixed it all in flash 10 though. That was the 
other real big headache.


Kevin N.

The FLA problem only seems to show itself when you convert an older AS2 
fla from Flash 8 or lower to AS3. If you start with an AS2 fla from 
Flash Pro CS3 (or whichever was the first with AS3) or newer it doesn't 
do that.


On 10/24/12 6:43 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

That didn't fix my problem. :(
I got all excited too.. lol

Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:


I did start with a AS2 FLA and switched to AS3.
So your saying the IDE does not add the appropriate stuff when you 
just convert?

WTF! Good to know Kevin.
Thanks

Best,
Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Kevin Newman wrote:

When I first started in AS3, there were two blocks that caught me up 
a lot. I started from an older AS2 FLA and then converted to AS3 - 
that was the cause of the problem.


If you do that, you end up with an AS3 fla that doesn't have the 
right settings in the AS3 Properties panel. You won't have 
automatically declare stage instance set, or strict mode (you want 
both).


Also, to get actual line numbers with errors, you'll need to check 
"allow debugging" in publish settings - I know it sounds like it's a 
permissions thing, but it really enables debugging symbols to be 
embedded in the swf, so that when you get an error, you'll actually 
get a useful error number with it.


Good luck!

Kevin N.


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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Karl DeSaulniers]

That didn't fix my problem. :(
I got all excited too.. lol

Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:


I did start with a AS2 FLA and switched to AS3.
So your saying the IDE does not add the appropriate stuff when you  
just convert?

WTF! Good to know Kevin.
Thanks

Best,
Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Kevin Newman wrote:

When I first started in AS3, there were two blocks that caught me  
up a lot. I started from an older AS2 FLA and then converted to AS3  
- that was the cause of the problem.


If you do that, you end up with an AS3 fla that doesn't have the  
right settings in the AS3 Properties panel. You won't have  
automatically declare stage instance set, or strict mode (you want  
both).


Also, to get actual line numbers with errors, you'll need to check  
"allow debugging" in publish settings - I know it sounds like it's  
a permissions thing, but it really enables debugging symbols to be  
embedded in the swf, so that when you get an error, you'll actually  
get a useful error number with it.


Good luck!

Kevin N.
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Karl DeSaulniers]

I did start with a AS2 FLA and switched to AS3.
So your saying the IDE does not add the appropriate stuff when you  
just convert?

WTF! Good to know Kevin.
Thanks

Best,
Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Kevin Newman wrote:

When I first started in AS3, there were two blocks that caught me up  
a lot. I started from an older AS2 FLA and then converted to AS3 -  
that was the cause of the problem.


If you do that, you end up with an AS3 fla that doesn't have the  
right settings in the AS3 Properties panel. You won't have  
automatically declare stage instance set, or strict mode (you want  
both).


Also, to get actual line numbers with errors, you'll need to check  
"allow debugging" in publish settings - I know it sounds like it's a  
permissions thing, but it really enables debugging symbols to be  
embedded in the swf, so that when you get an error, you'll actually  
get a useful error number with it.


Good luck!

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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Kevin Newman]

Sometimes anonymous and inline functions as terms are used interchangeably.

I wrote an addOnce method that utilized a closure - an inline function 
(it wasn't anonymous though) that subscribed to the main add (this is a 
Signals implementation) method, then removes itself from within itself, 
and calls the user func.

https://github.com/CaptainN/SignalsLite/blob/master/src/com/unfocus/signalslite/SignalLite.as

I tend to agree with you though in general. It's easier to work with 
classes and class methods than with a hundred closures, especially 
during debugging (and especially when they're all unnamed).


That said, JavaScript (which doesn't have proper classes, only 
prototypes and closures) can be quite fun.

https://github.com/CaptainN/SignalsLite.js

There again, it's actually a lot better to name your functions (even 
inline ones) because then they show up with a name in the error 
messages. ;-)


Kevin N.


On 10/24/12 10:08 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote:

Ok, what's a good case to use them?  Just curious, I have never found a 
situation where they were warranted.

  


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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Kevin Newman]

When I first started in AS3, there were two blocks that caught me up a 
lot. I started from an older AS2 FLA and then converted to AS3 - that 
was the cause of the problem.


If you do that, you end up with an AS3 fla that doesn't have the right 
settings in the AS3 Properties panel. You won't have automatically 
declare stage instance set, or strict mode (you want both).


Also, to get actual line numbers with errors, you'll need to check 
"allow debugging" in publish settings - I know it sounds like it's a 
permissions thing, but it really enables debugging symbols to be 
embedded in the swf, so that when you get an error, you'll actually get 
a useful error number with it.


Good luck!

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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Ross P. Sclafani]

as3 is so great. you should heed other's warning about never being able to look 
back.

i love the language so much, i rewrote it in javascript pretty much. i even 
ported my classical inheritance engine to Node.js


then i recreated most of the the Flash API, but im less sold now that mimicking 
the displaylist in the DOM has a clear advantage over using the document box 
model and stylesheets.


On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Karl DeSaulniers  wrote:

> Already have Javascript and jQuery under belt. (well mostly)
> This job is primarily AS3 so I thought I'd give it a try.
> 
> Karl
> 
> 
> On Oct 24, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Ross P. Sclafani wrote:
> 
>> if you were writing as2 without extending classes etc, why arent you just 
>> working in JS, its the new hot chick on the block, afterall...
>> 
>> On Oct 24, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Karl DeSaulniers  wrote:
>> 
>>> Your not the only one who has said that about AS2.. lol
>>> I know nothing about any AS3 classes. Frankly they confuse me with the 
>>> whole extend and static and public and aa!
>>> Makes my brain hurt just thinking about how I MUST learn them or fade into 
>>> AS2 history.
>>> 
>>> Karl
>>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:02 AM, Hans Wichman wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Karl,
 
 jus keep breathin;), this will pass and you'll never go back to as2 
 again;).
 
 Anyway on subject, have you tried out the standard SimpleButton class?
 If it doesnt fit your need, why not, maybe we can help with that, but that 
 class should work for most simple cases.
 
 In addition, do you still use the Flash IDE? Since as3 offers so many 
 options, here is just one of the possible ones that might fit your 
 workflow:
 
 - create a basic button class, put all the buttonMode, handCursor etc 
 stuff in there
 - add the eventlistener mumbojumbo in there as well, in short everything 
 to create a button
 - if you want to implement the functionality for different states such as 
 _up, _down etc go ahead and do so
 
 Now create a movieclip with timeline states _up, _down etc, and specify 
 your button class as base class for this clip:
 -voila a button, you can do this with as many buttons as you like
 
 Of course if you'd rather keep the assets external that is possible as 
 well, but it might require a slightly different setup.
 
 HTH,
 JC
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 24-10-2012 14:33, Paul A. wrote:
> Try removing:
> 
> button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
> button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;
> 
> Your code is a bit convoluted!
> 
> divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() { 
> gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });
> scuba_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() { 
> gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); });
> 
> divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() { 
> divers_btn.gotoAndStop("OVER");});
> ..
> 
> Paul
> 
> On 24/10/2012 12:39, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your help with 
>> some AS3.
>> I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on the most simple of 
>> things.
>> All I am trying to do is make some buttons work... lol
>> Here is my code.
>> 
>> button1_btn.buttonMode = true;
>> button2_btn.buttonMode = true;
>> button1_btn.useHandCursor = true;
>> button2_btn.useHandCursor = true;
>> button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
>> button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;
>> 
>> button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() { 
>> changeSelect(1); });
>> button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() { 
>> changeSelect(2); });
>> button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() { 
>> toggleB1(2); });
>> button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() { 
>> toggleB2(2); });
>> button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function() { 
>> toggleB1(1); });
>> button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function() { 
>> toggleB2(1); });
>> 
>> function changeSelect(p):void {
>> switch (p) {
>> case 1:
>> this.gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); //goto frame divinedivers in 
>> this MC
>> break;
>> case 2:
>> this.gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); //got frame scubadudes in this MC
>> break;
>> }
>> }
>> 
>> function toggleB1(f):void {
>> button1_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame
>> }
>> 
>> function toggleB2(f):void {
>> button2_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame
>> }
>> 
>> Why does AS3 have to make things so difficult for something so simple??
>> What the heck am I doing wrong???
>> 
>> Also, how do you use just a button instead of a mc?
>> I tried using j

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Already have Javascript and jQuery under belt. (well mostly)
This job is primarily AS3 so I thought I'd give it a try.

Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Ross P. Sclafani wrote:

if you were writing as2 without extending classes etc, why arent you  
just working in JS, its the new hot chick on the block, afterall...


On Oct 24, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Karl DeSaulniers   
wrote:



Your not the only one who has said that about AS2.. lol
I know nothing about any AS3 classes. Frankly they confuse me with  
the whole extend and static and public and aa!
Makes my brain hurt just thinking about how I MUST learn them or  
fade into AS2 history.


Karl

On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:02 AM, Hans Wichman wrote:


Hi Karl,

jus keep breathin;), this will pass and you'll never go back to  
as2 again;).


Anyway on subject, have you tried out the standard SimpleButton  
class?
If it doesnt fit your need, why not, maybe we can help with that,  
but that class should work for most simple cases.


In addition, do you still use the Flash IDE? Since as3 offers so  
many options, here is just one of the possible ones that might fit  
your workflow:


- create a basic button class, put all the buttonMode, handCursor  
etc stuff in there
- add the eventlistener mumbojumbo in there as well, in short  
everything to create a button
- if you want to implement the functionality for different states  
such as _up, _down etc go ahead and do so


Now create a movieclip with timeline states _up, _down etc, and  
specify your button class as base class for this clip:

-voila a button, you can do this with as many buttons as you like

Of course if you'd rather keep the assets external that is  
possible as well, but it might require a slightly different setup.


HTH,
JC






On 24-10-2012 14:33, Paul A. wrote:

Try removing:

button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

Your code is a bit convoluted!

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });
scuba_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); });


divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ divers_btn.gotoAndStop("OVER");});

..

Paul

On 24/10/2012 12:39, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

Hello All,
Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your  
help with some AS3.
I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on the most simple  
of things.

All I am trying to do is make some buttons work... lol
Here is my code.

button1_btn.buttonMode = true;
button2_btn.buttonMode = true;
button1_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button2_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ changeSelect(1); });
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ changeSelect(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ toggleB1(2); });
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ toggleB2(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function()  
{ toggleB1(1); });
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function()  
{ toggleB2(1); });


function changeSelect(p):void {
 switch (p) {
 case 1:
 this.gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); //goto frame  
divinedivers in this MC

 break;
 case 2:
 this.gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); //got frame scubadudes  
in this MC

 break;
 }
}

function toggleB1(f):void {
 button1_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame
}

function toggleB2(f):void {
 button2_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame
}

Why does AS3 have to make things so difficult for something so  
simple??

What the heck am I doing wrong???

Also, how do you use just a button instead of a mc?
I tried using just a button and it wouldn't even switch to the  
over state that is inside the button!!?


AS2 is just so much more simple... sigh*

TIA,

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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Ok, I tried suggestions and things are still not working. The hand  
cursor doesn't even show.


Here is the set up

Scene 2 -
frame 1 :
Main MC -  "Scene2MC"
frame 96:   
Layer 1 : (Actions were working on)
Layer 2: "button1_btn"
Layer 3: "button2_btn"

with the way I am referencing button1_btn and button2_btn, could it be  
that they are not recieving the scope?

Do I need to point them like

this.Scene2MC.button1_btn.addListener(...

I thought not, because the actions and the button are inside Scene2MC

I may just have to pass on this job. I cant even get buttons to work..  
lol



Best,
Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 3:13 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:


So will this work?

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ this.gotoAndStop("OVER");});


I mean. Will this = divers_btn? or do I HAVE to specify   
divers_btn.gotoAndStop()?

After all I am applying the listener to it.

@jason Not that I am going to continue with annon functions, just  
currious.


Basically, I am trying to set up the listener for the buttons to be  
generic for the buttons hover states.

Then specify data for the click state per button.

So if
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, toggleB1(1));
doesnt work, how do I specify which frame to move to.
Trying to set up a toggle if you will. I DONT want to have to create  
a function for EVERY state for EVERY button I have.

That just seems stupid to me to have to do. Very bloated IMO.

Best,

Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Hans Wichman wrote:


Hi Karl,

when you are starting with as3: whatever works :)).

Basically both will work (anon and nonanon (double wow)), but  
anonymous is harder (read impossible) to remove.
So if you create a view that exists throughout the lifetime of the  
app, with buttons that do the same, either way will work.
If you are creating and removing a lot of buttons, I'd skip  
anonymous, and nicely removely the listeners when done.


button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, toggleB1(1));  
will not work because you are registering the result of the  
toggleB1(1) call, which in most cases will not be a function  
reference.


What you wanted to do is something like the old as2 proxy or  
delegate call, which you can recreate in as3 and would result in  
something like:
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, Proxy.create  
(toggleB1, [1]));
Thing is, as3 is going to pass event objects as arguments as well,  
so this is getting more complicated than its worth real fast.


But I would do myself a favor and pick up "actionscript 3  
essentials" and "actionscript 3 cookbook". Doesn't take too long to  
get through them and saves you a lot and a lt of  
frustration :)


hth
jc

On 24-10-2012 21:49, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

OH? What is the best coding standards way?
I used an annon function because

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, toggleB1(1));

Does not work.

Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote:


function() { gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });


Yeah, this is weird and unnecessary. Anonymous functions are  
recommended against in AS3.


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Try removing:

button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

Your code is a bit convoluted!

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });  
scuba_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); });


divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ divers_btn.gotoAndStop("OVER");});

..

Paul

On 24/10/2012 12:39, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

Hello All,
Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your  
help with

some AS3.
I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on the most simple  
of

things.
All I am trying to do is make some buttons work... lol Here is my
code.

button1_btn.buttonMode = true;
button2_btn.buttonMode = true;
button1_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button2_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() {
changeSelect(1); });  
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK,

function() { changeSelect(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() {
toggleB1(2); });  
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Karl DeSaulniers]

That kinda made sense. Will have to read about 5 more times though..  
lol :P

thanks Henrik.


Time to go vote. I will be back later to see if I can pull an elephant  
out my WHOO HOO.


Best,
Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Henrik Andersson wrote:


Karl DeSaulniers skriver:

Thanks Henrik,
Well for this, there are two buttons on stage.
When you hover over one it makes a message appear, if the other  
another

message appears.
So if I dont use those, your saying that when I roll out, the  
listener

is removed automatically?




I am saying that the last argument to addEventListener becomes
irrelevant. the argument only matters if the listener function has
captured a reference to its original scope
(shown as savedThis in the debugger) (the class instance it came from)
AND the original scope has no more live references to it AND the
listened to object is live.

This is irrelevant, since in nearly all cases the original scope was  
the

one who created the listened to object in the first place and as such
both will die at the same time.

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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Ross P. Sclafani]

if you were writing as2 without extending classes etc, why arent you just 
working in JS, its the new hot chick on the block, afterall...

On Oct 24, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Karl DeSaulniers  wrote:

> Your not the only one who has said that about AS2.. lol
> I know nothing about any AS3 classes. Frankly they confuse me with the whole 
> extend and static and public and aa!
> Makes my brain hurt just thinking about how I MUST learn them or fade into 
> AS2 history.
> 
> Karl
> 
> On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:02 AM, Hans Wichman wrote:
> 
>> Hi Karl,
>> 
>> jus keep breathin;), this will pass and you'll never go back to as2 again;).
>> 
>> Anyway on subject, have you tried out the standard SimpleButton class?
>> If it doesnt fit your need, why not, maybe we can help with that, but that 
>> class should work for most simple cases.
>> 
>> In addition, do you still use the Flash IDE? Since as3 offers so many 
>> options, here is just one of the possible ones that might fit your workflow:
>> 
>> - create a basic button class, put all the buttonMode, handCursor etc stuff 
>> in there
>> - add the eventlistener mumbojumbo in there as well, in short everything to 
>> create a button
>> - if you want to implement the functionality for different states such as 
>> _up, _down etc go ahead and do so
>> 
>> Now create a movieclip with timeline states _up, _down etc, and specify your 
>> button class as base class for this clip:
>> -voila a button, you can do this with as many buttons as you like
>> 
>> Of course if you'd rather keep the assets external that is possible as well, 
>> but it might require a slightly different setup.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> JC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 24-10-2012 14:33, Paul A. wrote:
>>> Try removing:
>>> 
>>> button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
>>> button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;
>>> 
>>> Your code is a bit convoluted!
>>> 
>>> divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() { 
>>> gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });
>>> scuba_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() { 
>>> gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); });
>>> 
>>> divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() { 
>>> divers_btn.gotoAndStop("OVER");});
>>> ..
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>>> On 24/10/2012 12:39, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
 Hello All,
 Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your help with 
 some AS3.
 I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on the most simple of things.
 All I am trying to do is make some buttons work... lol
 Here is my code.
 
 button1_btn.buttonMode = true;
 button2_btn.buttonMode = true;
 button1_btn.useHandCursor = true;
 button2_btn.useHandCursor = true;
 button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
 button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;
 
 button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() { 
 changeSelect(1); });
 button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() { 
 changeSelect(2); });
 button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() { 
 toggleB1(2); });
 button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() { 
 toggleB2(2); });
 button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function() { 
 toggleB1(1); });
 button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function() { 
 toggleB2(1); });
 
 function changeSelect(p):void {
   switch (p) {
   case 1:
   this.gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); //goto frame divinedivers in 
 this MC
   break;
   case 2:
   this.gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); //got frame scubadudes in this MC
   break;
   }
 }
 
 function toggleB1(f):void {
   button1_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame
 }
 
 function toggleB2(f):void {
   button2_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame
 }
 
 Why does AS3 have to make things so difficult for something so simple??
 What the heck am I doing wrong???
 
 Also, how do you use just a button instead of a mc?
 I tried using just a button and it wouldn't even switch to the over state 
 that is inside the button!!?
 
 AS2 is just so much more simple... sigh*
 
 TIA,
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Henrik Andersson]

Karl DeSaulniers skriver:
> Thanks Henrik,
> Well for this, there are two buttons on stage.
> When you hover over one it makes a message appear, if the other another
> message appears.
> So if I dont use those, your saying that when I roll out, the listener
> is removed automatically?
> 


I am saying that the last argument to addEventListener becomes
irrelevant. the argument only matters if the listener function has
captured a reference to its original scope
(shown as savedThis in the debugger) (the class instance it came from)
AND the original scope has no more live references to it AND the
listened to object is live.

This is irrelevant, since in nearly all cases the original scope was the
one who created the listened to object in the first place and as such
both will die at the same time.

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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Paul A.]

On 24/10/2012 21:13, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

So will this work?

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() { 
this.gotoAndStop("OVER");});


I mean. Will this = divers_btn? or do I HAVE to specify 
divers_btn.gotoAndStop()?

My bad, you're right.

I put divers_btn because button1 means nothing, so use meaningful names 
- always. Use labels rather than fixed frame numbers.


divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() { 
divers_btn.gotoAndStop("OVER");});


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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Thanks Henrik,
Well for this, there are two buttons on stage.
When you hover over one it makes a message appear, if the other  
another message appears.
So if I dont use those, your saying that when I roll out, the listener  
is removed automatically?


I dont want my project to make peoples computer fans start freaking  
out because of unremoved listeners. lol


Best,
Karl

On Oct 24, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Henrik Andersson wrote:


Karl DeSaulniers skriver:

Thank you Cor!
The buttons are MCs placed on the stage. At first they were  
Buttons, but

when they wouldn't change even the states within the Button, so I
converted them to MCs.
Also, what does the

, false, 0, true);

do? Does it have to do with removing the listener?
uhg im not going to sleep well tonight.




It doesn't do anything in practice. It only matters if the listened to
object is alive when the source of the listener isn't. Which almost
never happens unless you are listening to the stage.

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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Cor]

try this:

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function(e:MouseEvent):void  
{ e.target.gotoAndStop("OVER");});



 Karl DeSaulniers  schreef:
So will this work?

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ this.gotoAndStop("OVER");});

I mean. Will this = divers_btn? or do I HAVE to specify   
divers_btn.gotoAndStop()?
After all I am applying the listener to it.

@jason Not that I am going to continue with annon functions, just  
currious.

Basically, I am trying to set up the listener for the buttons to be  
generic for the buttons hover states.
Then specify data for the click state per button.

So if
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, toggleB1(1));
doesnt work, how do I specify which frame to move to.
Trying to set up a toggle if you will. I DONT want to have to create a  
function for EVERY state for EVERY button I have.
That just seems stupid to me to have to do. Very bloated IMO.

Best,

Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Hans Wichman wrote:

> Hi Karl,
>
> when you are starting with as3: whatever works :)).
>
> Basically both will work (anon and nonanon (double wow)), but  
> anonymous is harder (read impossible) to remove.
> So if you create a view that exists throughout the lifetime of the  
> app, with buttons that do the same, either way will work.
> If you are creating and removing a lot of buttons, I'd skip  
> anonymous, and nicely removely the listeners when done.
>
> button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, toggleB1(1)); will  
> not work because you are registering the result of the toggleB1(1)  
> call, which in most cases will not be a function reference.
>
> What you wanted to do is something like the old as2 proxy or  
> delegate call, which you can recreate in as3 and would result in  
> something like:
> button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, Proxy.create  
> (toggleB1, [1]));
> Thing is, as3 is going to pass event objects as arguments as well,  
> so this is getting more complicated than its worth real fast.
>
> But I would do myself a favor and pick up "actionscript 3  
> essentials" and "actionscript 3 cookbook". Doesn't take too long to  
> get through them and saves you a lot and a lt of  
> frustration :)
>
> hth
> jc
>
> On 24-10-2012 21:49, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
>> OH? What is the best coding standards way?
>> I used an annon function because
>>
>> button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, toggleB1(1));
>>
>> Does not work.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>> On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote:
>>
>>>>> function() { gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });
>>>
>>> Yeah, this is weird and unnecessary. Anonymous functions are  
>>> recommended against in AS3.
>>>
>>> Jason Merrill
>>> Instructional Technology Architect II
>>> Bank of America  Global Learning
>>> 703.302.9265 (w/h)
>>>
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>>>
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>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:33 AM
>>> To: Flash Coders List
>>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3
>>>
>>> Try removing:
>>>
>>> button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
>>> button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;
>>>
>>> Your code is a bit convoluted!
>>>
>>> divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
>>> { gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });  
>>> scuba_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
>>> { gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); });
>>>
>>> divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
>>> { divers_btn.gotoAndStop("OVER");});
>>> ..
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On 24/10/2012 12:39, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your help  
>>>> with
>>>> some AS3.
>>>> I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on the most simple of
>>>> things.
>>>> All I am trying to do is make some buttons work... lol Here is my
>>>> code.
>>>>
>>>> button1_btn.buttonMode = true;
>>>> button2_btn.buttonMode = true;
>>>> button1_btn.useHandCursor = true;
>>>> button2_btn.useHandCursor = true;
>>>> button1_btn.m

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Cor]

Karl,

, false, 0, true);

I need the false, 0, to get to the third param.
Which when set (weak reference) to true gives the garbage collector the 
oppurtunity to clear the listener and free up resources.
Not necessary but I like to clean up.

@Being that this is a clients FLA, I am not able to email my FLA.

No no, I don't want you to send clients FLA, but create a mock up with the 
problem/question, which I can adjust and send back.
This makes understanding the problem much easier.

Sleep tight, don't let 

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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Karl DeSaulniers]

So will this work?

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ this.gotoAndStop("OVER");});


I mean. Will this = divers_btn? or do I HAVE to specify   
divers_btn.gotoAndStop()?

After all I am applying the listener to it.

@jason Not that I am going to continue with annon functions, just  
currious.


Basically, I am trying to set up the listener for the buttons to be  
generic for the buttons hover states.

Then specify data for the click state per button.

So if
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, toggleB1(1));
doesnt work, how do I specify which frame to move to.
Trying to set up a toggle if you will. I DONT want to have to create a  
function for EVERY state for EVERY button I have.

That just seems stupid to me to have to do. Very bloated IMO.

Best,

Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Hans Wichman wrote:


Hi Karl,

when you are starting with as3: whatever works :)).

Basically both will work (anon and nonanon (double wow)), but  
anonymous is harder (read impossible) to remove.
So if you create a view that exists throughout the lifetime of the  
app, with buttons that do the same, either way will work.
If you are creating and removing a lot of buttons, I'd skip  
anonymous, and nicely removely the listeners when done.


button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, toggleB1(1)); will  
not work because you are registering the result of the toggleB1(1)  
call, which in most cases will not be a function reference.


What you wanted to do is something like the old as2 proxy or  
delegate call, which you can recreate in as3 and would result in  
something like:
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, Proxy.create  
(toggleB1, [1]));
Thing is, as3 is going to pass event objects as arguments as well,  
so this is getting more complicated than its worth real fast.


But I would do myself a favor and pick up "actionscript 3  
essentials" and "actionscript 3 cookbook". Doesn't take too long to  
get through them and saves you a lot and a lt of  
frustration :)


hth
jc

On 24-10-2012 21:49, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

OH? What is the best coding standards way?
I used an annon function because

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, toggleB1(1));

Does not work.

Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote:


function() { gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });


Yeah, this is weird and unnecessary. Anonymous functions are  
recommended against in AS3.


Jason Merrill
Instructional Technology Architect II
Bank of America  Global Learning
703.302.9265 (w/h)





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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:33 AM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

Try removing:

button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

Your code is a bit convoluted!

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });  
scuba_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); });


divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ divers_btn.gotoAndStop("OVER");});

..

Paul

On 24/10/2012 12:39, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

Hello All,
Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your help  
with

some AS3.
I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on the most simple of
things.
All I am trying to do is make some buttons work... lol Here is my
code.

button1_btn.buttonMode = true;
button2_btn.buttonMode = true;
button1_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button2_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() {
changeSelect(1); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK,
function() { changeSelect(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() {
toggleB1(2); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER,
function() { toggleB2(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function() {
toggleB1(1); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT,
function() { toggleB2(1); });

function changeSelect(p):void {
  switch (p) {
  case 1:
  this.gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); //goto frame
divinedivers in this MC
  break;
  case 2:
  this.gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); //got frame scubadudes in
this MC
  break;
  }
}

function toggleB1(f):void {
  button1_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame }

function toggleB2(f):void {
  button2_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame }

Why does AS3 have to make things so difficult for something so  
simple??

What the heck am I doing wrong???

Also, how do you use just a button instead of a mc?
I tried us

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Henrik Andersson]

Karl DeSaulniers skriver:
> Thank you Cor!
> The buttons are MCs placed on the stage. At first they were Buttons, but
> when they wouldn't change even the states within the Button, so I
> converted them to MCs.
> Also, what does the
> 
> , false, 0, true);
> 
> do? Does it have to do with removing the listener?
> uhg im not going to sleep well tonight.
> 


It doesn't do anything in practice. It only matters if the listened to
object is alive when the source of the listener isn't. Which almost
never happens unless you are listening to the stage.

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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Karl DeSaulniers]

I've got Todd Perkins book
But project is due today, so no time to read.
Must dive head first into this empty pool. :P

Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Hans Wichman wrote:


Hi Karl,

when you are starting with as3: whatever works :)).

Basically both will work (anon and nonanon (double wow)), but  
anonymous is harder (read impossible) to remove.
So if you create a view that exists throughout the lifetime of the  
app, with buttons that do the same, either way will work.
If you are creating and removing a lot of buttons, I'd skip  
anonymous, and nicely removely the listeners when done.


button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, toggleB1(1)); will  
not work because you are registering the result of the toggleB1(1)  
call, which in most cases will not be a function reference.


What you wanted to do is something like the old as2 proxy or  
delegate call, which you can recreate in as3 and would result in  
something like:
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, Proxy.create  
(toggleB1, [1]));
Thing is, as3 is going to pass event objects as arguments as well,  
so this is getting more complicated than its worth real fast.


But I would do myself a favor and pick up "actionscript 3  
essentials" and "actionscript 3 cookbook". Doesn't take too long to  
get through them and saves you a lot and a lt of  
frustration :)


hth
jc

On 24-10-2012 21:49, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

OH? What is the best coding standards way?
I used an annon function because

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, toggleB1(1));

Does not work.

Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote:


function() { gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });


Yeah, this is weird and unnecessary. Anonymous functions are  
recommended against in AS3.


Jason Merrill
Instructional Technology Architect II
Bank of America  Global Learning
703.302.9265 (w/h)





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] On Behalf Of Paul A.

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:33 AM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

Try removing:

button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

Your code is a bit convoluted!

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });  
scuba_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); });


divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ divers_btn.gotoAndStop("OVER");});

..

Paul

On 24/10/2012 12:39, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

Hello All,
Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your help  
with

some AS3.
I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on the most simple of
things.
All I am trying to do is make some buttons work... lol Here is my
code.

button1_btn.buttonMode = true;
button2_btn.buttonMode = true;
button1_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button2_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() {
changeSelect(1); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK,
function() { changeSelect(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() {
toggleB1(2); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER,
function() { toggleB2(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function() {
toggleB1(1); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT,
function() { toggleB2(1); });

function changeSelect(p):void {
  switch (p) {
  case 1:
  this.gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); //goto frame
divinedivers in this MC
  break;
  case 2:
  this.gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); //got frame scubadudes in
this MC
  break;
  }
}

function toggleB1(f):void {
  button1_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame }

function toggleB2(f):void {
  button2_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame }

Why does AS3 have to make things so difficult for something so  
simple??

What the heck am I doing wrong???

Also, how do you use just a button instead of a mc?
I tried using just a button and it wouldn't even switch to the over
state that is inside the button!!?

AS2 is just so much more simple... sigh*

TIA,

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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Hans Wichman]

Hi Karl,

when you are starting with as3: whatever works :)).

Basically both will work (anon and nonanon (double wow)), but anonymous 
is harder (read impossible) to remove.
So if you create a view that exists throughout the lifetime of the app, 
with buttons that do the same, either way will work.
If you are creating and removing a lot of buttons, I'd skip anonymous, 
and nicely removely the listeners when done.


button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, toggleB1(1)); will not 
work because you are registering the result of the toggleB1(1) call, 
which in most cases will not be a function reference.


What you wanted to do is something like the old as2 proxy or delegate 
call, which you can recreate in as3 and would result in something like:
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, Proxy.create 
(toggleB1, [1]));
Thing is, as3 is going to pass event objects as arguments as well, so 
this is getting more complicated than its worth real fast.


But I would do myself a favor and pick up "actionscript 3 essentials" 
and "actionscript 3 cookbook". Doesn't take too long to get through them 
and saves you a lot and a lt of frustration :)


hth
jc

On 24-10-2012 21:49, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

OH? What is the best coding standards way?
I used an annon function because

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, toggleB1(1));

Does not work.

Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote:


function() { gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });


Yeah, this is weird and unnecessary. Anonymous functions are 
recommended against in AS3.


Jason Merrill
Instructional Technology Architect II
Bank of America  Global Learning
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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:33 AM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

Try removing:

button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

Your code is a bit convoluted!

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() { 
gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); }); 
scuba_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() { 
gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); });


divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() { 
divers_btn.gotoAndStop("OVER");});

..

Paul

On 24/10/2012 12:39, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

Hello All,
Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your help with
some AS3.
I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on the most simple of
things.
All I am trying to do is make some buttons work... lol Here is my
code.

button1_btn.buttonMode = true;
button2_btn.buttonMode = true;
button1_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button2_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() {
changeSelect(1); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK,
function() { changeSelect(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() {
toggleB1(2); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER,
function() { toggleB2(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function() {
toggleB1(1); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT,
function() { toggleB2(1); });

function changeSelect(p):void {
   switch (p) {
   case 1:
   this.gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); //goto frame
divinedivers in this MC
   break;
   case 2:
   this.gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); //got frame scubadudes in
this MC
   break;
   }
}

function toggleB1(f):void {
   button1_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame }

function toggleB2(f):void {
   button2_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame }

Why does AS3 have to make things so difficult for something so simple??
What the heck am I doing wrong???

Also, how do you use just a button instead of a mc?
I tried using just a button and it wouldn't even switch to the over
state that is inside the button!!?

AS2 is just so much more simple... sigh*

TIA,

Karl DeSaulniers
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Thank you Cor!
The buttons are MCs placed on the stage. At first they were Buttons,  
but when they wouldn't change even the states within the Button, so I  
converted them to MCs.

Also, what does the

, false, 0, true);

do? Does it have to do with removing the listener?
uhg im not going to sleep well tonight.

Being that this is a clients FLA, I am not able to email my FLA.
Will try your suggestions and let you know. Thank you!

Best,
Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Cor wrote:


Hi Karl,

Hahahaha, AS3 is very much easier then AS2.
But can be a little tricky to grasp when you are switching.
Believe me, once you see the structure, you don't understand that  
AS2 has ever existed.


First the Q: How do you use a button instead of a MC.
There is no difference, they are both Objects with each some specific
properties.
The button is in fact a movieclip with just a timeline of 4 states.
I recommend never to use Flash Components(!).
Create youre own button or movieclip.
When you create a graphic and transform (F8) it into a Symbol you  
can choose to

set it as a MC or Button.
I prefer MC always and write my own class to deal with the states.
I will send you some examples in a following mail.

In this mail I will address your code problem as is.
I always look at code to see if something is redundant.
So if there is ANYTHING I discover is present more then once, I  
create something

so there is only 1 of it, and reuse that as often as needed.

In your case I can't see if the buttons are put on stage phisically  
or with

code.
I always use code only, my stage stays empty and I have no frames on  
the

timeline!
My guess is that in this case the buttons are already on the stage,  
so I will

set the code as follows:

//put all the button names in this array
var aButtons:Array = [ button1_btn, button2_btn];
var idx:int = -1;  //no button selected yet

for (var i:uint = 0; i < aButtons.length; ++i){
aButtons[i].buttonMode = true;
aButtons[i]..mouseChildren = false;
aButtons[i].addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, btnClickHandler,  
false, 0,

true);
aButtons[i].addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, btnOverHandler,  
false, 0,

true);
aButtons[i].addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, btnOutHandler,  
false, 0,

true);
}

function btnClickHandler(e:MouseEvent):void{
//get the position in the array of the clicked button
idx = aButtons.indexof(e.target);
switch (idx) {
case 0:
	this.gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); //goto frame divinedivers in this  
MC

break;
case 1:
this.gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); //got frame scubadudes in this MC
break;
}
}

function btnOverHandler(e:MouseEvent):void {
//get the position in the array of the clicked button
idx = aButtons.indexof(e.target);
//RENAME THE FRAME TO 'over' !!
aButtons[idx].gotoAndStop("over"); //toggle this button MC frame
}
function btnOutHandler(e:MouseEvent):void {
//get the position in the array of the clicked button
idx = aButtons.indexof(e.target);
//RENAME THE FRAME TO 'out' !!
aButtons[idx].gotoAndStop("out"); //toggle this button MC frame
}

I typed this instantly in this mail, so watch for a possible typo?
I go to dinner now, and create and send the promised examples after  
that.


If you have problems with the code above, please tell me.
For simplicity, I suggest mailing a FLA to eachother.

regards
Cor


 Karl DeSaulniers  schreef:
Hello All,
Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your help with
some AS3.
I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on the most simple of
things.
All I am trying to do is make some buttons work... lol
Here is my code.

button1_btn.buttonMode = true;
button2_btn.buttonMode = true;
button1_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button2_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()
{ changeSelect(1); });
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()
{ changeSelect(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()
{ toggleB1(2); });
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()
{ toggleB2(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function()
{ toggleB1(1); });
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function()
{ toggleB2(1); });

function changeSelect(p):void {
switch (p) {
case 1:
this.gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); //goto frame 
divinedivers in this
MC
break;
case 2:
this.gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); //got frame scubadudes 
in this MC
break;
}
}

function toggleB1(f):void {
button1_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame
}

function toggleB2(f):void {
button2_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame
}

Why does AS3 have to make things so difficult for something so  
simple??

What

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Karl DeSaulniers]

I am glad I could get the blood stirring in this list again. :P

Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote:

Right, it's cool, we're on the same page, my only point is there is  
no functional reason to use them (no pun intended) and in my  
personal opinion, they have more potential to introduce problems.


Jason Merrill
Instructional Technology Architect II
Bank of America  Global Learning
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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:34 AM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

Jason, I wasn't arguing anything except that IMHO using them makes  
code more readable in some circumstances. It's not an either/or.


We can agree to differ.

On 24/10/2012 15:23, Merrill, Jason wrote:
That still isn't an argument to use them in my opinion, personally  
I think the code is much more convoluted that way. Your argument is  
essentially it's a preference in coding style, not that there are  
situations that specifically call for their use.


 Jason Merrill
 Instructional Technology Architect II
 Bank of America  Global Learning
 703.302.9265 (w/h)





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] On Behalf Of Paul A.

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:19 AM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

On 24/10/2012 15:08, Merrill, Jason wrote:
Ok, what's a good case to use them?  Just curious, I have never  
found a situation where they were warranted.
Sometimes (depending on what your buttons do), it seems rather  
artificial to have to fabricate a stand-alone function to handle an  
event when the action required is very simple.


I used to always create named event handler functions and realised  
I was adopting some fixed pattern that was actually obfuscating my  
code unnecessarily in some situations.


The OP was using an event handler simply to control the timeline  
and manufacturing a named function to do this very specific thing  
seems unnecessary. With an inline function you can see straight off  
what happens when the event is handled, without looking up the  
handler function to see what it does.

  Jason Merrill
  Instructional Technology Architect II
  Bank of America  Global Learning
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] On Behalf Of Paul A.

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:07 AM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

On 24/10/2012 14:43, Merrill, Jason wrote:

function() { gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });
Yeah, this is weird and unnecessary. Anonymous functions are  
recommended against in AS3.

Really?

I used to be of the same opinion, but certainly not as a blanket  
rule.

It all depends.


   Jason Merrill
   Instructional Technology Architect II
   Bank of America  Global Learning
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] On Behalf Of Paul A.

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:33 AM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

Try removing:

button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

Your code is a bit convoluted!

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() {
gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });
scuba_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() {
gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); });

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() {
divers_btn.gotoAndStop("OVER");});
..

Paul

On 24/10/2012 12:39, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

Hello All,
Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your help
with some AS3.
I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on the most simple  
of

things.
All I am trying to do is make some buttons work... lol Here is my
code.

button1_btn.buttonMode = true;
button2_btn.buttonMode = true;
button1_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button2_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() {
changeSelect(1); });  
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK,

function() { changeSelect(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() {
toggleB1(2); });  
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER,

function() { toggleB2(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function() {
toggleB1(1); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT,
function() { toggleB2(1); });

function changeSelect(p):void {
  switch (p) {
   

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Karl DeSaulniers]

OH? What is the best coding standards way?
I used an annon function because

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, toggleB1(1));

Does not work.

Karl


On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote:


function() { gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });


Yeah, this is weird and unnecessary. Anonymous functions are  
recommended against in AS3.


Jason Merrill
Instructional Technology Architect II
Bank of America  Global Learning
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] On Behalf Of Paul A.

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:33 AM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

Try removing:

button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

Your code is a bit convoluted!

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });  
scuba_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); });


divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ divers_btn.gotoAndStop("OVER");});

..

Paul

On 24/10/2012 12:39, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

Hello All,
Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your help  
with

some AS3.
I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on the most simple of
things.
All I am trying to do is make some buttons work... lol Here is my
code.

button1_btn.buttonMode = true;
button2_btn.buttonMode = true;
button1_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button2_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() {
changeSelect(1); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK,
function() { changeSelect(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() {
toggleB1(2); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER,
function() { toggleB2(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function() {
toggleB1(1); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT,
function() { toggleB2(1); });

function changeSelect(p):void {
   switch (p) {
   case 1:
   this.gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); //goto frame
divinedivers in this MC
   break;
   case 2:
   this.gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); //got frame scubadudes in
this MC
   break;
   }
}

function toggleB1(f):void {
   button1_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame }

function toggleB2(f):void {
   button2_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame }

Why does AS3 have to make things so difficult for something so  
simple??

What the heck am I doing wrong???

Also, how do you use just a button instead of a mc?
I tried using just a button and it wouldn't even switch to the over
state that is inside the button!!?

AS2 is just so much more simple... sigh*

TIA,

Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com

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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Your not the only one who has said that about AS2.. lol
I know nothing about any AS3 classes. Frankly they confuse me with the  
whole extend and static and public and aa!
Makes my brain hurt just thinking about how I MUST learn them or fade  
into AS2 history.


Karl

On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:02 AM, Hans Wichman wrote:


Hi Karl,

jus keep breathin;), this will pass and you'll never go back to as2  
again;).


Anyway on subject, have you tried out the standard SimpleButton class?
If it doesnt fit your need, why not, maybe we can help with that,  
but that class should work for most simple cases.


In addition, do you still use the Flash IDE? Since as3 offers so  
many options, here is just one of the possible ones that might fit  
your workflow:


- create a basic button class, put all the buttonMode, handCursor  
etc stuff in there
- add the eventlistener mumbojumbo in there as well, in short  
everything to create a button
- if you want to implement the functionality for different states  
such as _up, _down etc go ahead and do so


Now create a movieclip with timeline states _up, _down etc, and  
specify your button class as base class for this clip:

-voila a button, you can do this with as many buttons as you like

Of course if you'd rather keep the assets external that is possible  
as well, but it might require a slightly different setup.


HTH,
JC






On 24-10-2012 14:33, Paul A. wrote:

Try removing:

button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

Your code is a bit convoluted!

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });
scuba_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); });


divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ divers_btn.gotoAndStop("OVER");});

..

Paul

On 24/10/2012 12:39, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

Hello All,
Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your help  
with some AS3.
I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on the most simple  
of things.

All I am trying to do is make some buttons work... lol
Here is my code.

button1_btn.buttonMode = true;
button2_btn.buttonMode = true;
button1_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button2_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ changeSelect(1); });
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ changeSelect(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ toggleB1(2); });
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ toggleB2(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function()  
{ toggleB1(1); });
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function()  
{ toggleB2(1); });


function changeSelect(p):void {
   switch (p) {
   case 1:
   this.gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); //goto frame  
divinedivers in this MC

   break;
   case 2:
   this.gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); //got frame scubadudes  
in this MC

   break;
   }
}

function toggleB1(f):void {
   button1_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame
}

function toggleB2(f):void {
   button2_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame
}

Why does AS3 have to make things so difficult for something so  
simple??

What the heck am I doing wrong???

Also, how do you use just a button instead of a mc?
I tried using just a button and it wouldn't even switch to the  
over state that is inside the button!!?


AS2 is just so much more simple... sigh*

TIA,

Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Karl DeSaulniers]

Thanks Paul.. I will try that.


On Oct 24, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Paul A. wrote:


Try removing:

button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

Your code is a bit convoluted!

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });
scuba_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); });


divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ divers_btn.gotoAndStop("OVER");});

..

Paul

On 24/10/2012 12:39, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

Hello All,
Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your help  
with some AS3.
I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on the most simple of  
things.

All I am trying to do is make some buttons work... lol
Here is my code.

button1_btn.buttonMode = true;
button2_btn.buttonMode = true;
button1_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button2_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ changeSelect(1); });
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ changeSelect(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ toggleB1(2); });
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ toggleB2(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function()  
{ toggleB1(1); });
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function()  
{ toggleB2(1); });


function changeSelect(p):void {
   switch (p) {
   case 1:
   this.gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); //goto frame  
divinedivers in this MC

   break;
   case 2:
   this.gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); //got frame scubadudes  
in this MC

   break;
   }
}

function toggleB1(f):void {
   button1_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame
}

function toggleB2(f):void {
   button2_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame
}

Why does AS3 have to make things so difficult for something so  
simple??

What the heck am I doing wrong???

Also, how do you use just a button instead of a mc?
I tried using just a button and it wouldn't even switch to the over  
state that is inside the button!!?


AS2 is just so much more simple... sigh*

TIA,

Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
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Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Cor]

Hi Karl, 
 
Hahahaha, AS3 is very much easier then AS2. 
But can be a little tricky to grasp when you are switching. 
Believe me, once you see the structure, you don't understand that AS2 has ever 
existed. 
 
First the Q: How do you use a button instead of a MC. 
There is no difference, they are both Objects with each some specific 
properties. 
The button is in fact a movieclip with just a timeline of 4 states. 
I recommend never to use Flash Components(!). 
Create youre own button or movieclip. 
When you create a graphic and transform (F8) it into a Symbol you can choose to 
set it as a MC or Button. 
I prefer MC always and write my own class to deal with the states. 
I will send you some examples in a following mail. 
 
In this mail I will address your code problem as is. 
I always look at code to see if something is redundant. 
So if there is ANYTHING I discover is present more then once, I create 
something 
so there is only 1 of it, and reuse that as often as needed. 
 
In your case I can't see if the buttons are put on stage phisically or with 
code. 
I always use code only, my stage stays empty and I have no frames on the 
timeline! 
My guess is that in this case the buttons are already on the stage, so I will 
set the code as follows: 
 
//put all the button names in this array 
var aButtons:Array = [ button1_btn, button2_btn]; 
var idx:int = -1;  //no button selected yet 
 
for (var i:uint = 0; i < aButtons.length; ++i){ 
 aButtons[i].buttonMode = true; 
 aButtons[i]..mouseChildren = false; 
 aButtons[i].addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, btnClickHandler, false, 0, 
true); 
 aButtons[i].addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, btnOverHandler, false, 0, 
true); 
 aButtons[i].addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, btnOutHandler, false, 0, 
true); 
} 
 
function btnClickHandler(e:MouseEvent):void{  
 //get the position in the array of the clicked button 
 idx = aButtons.indexof(e.target); 
 switch (idx) { 
case 0: 
this.gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); //goto frame divinedivers in this MC 
break; 
case 1: 
this.gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); //got frame scubadudes in this MC 
break; 
 } 
} 
 
function btnOverHandler(e:MouseEvent):void { 
 //get the position in the array of the clicked button 
 idx = aButtons.indexof(e.target); 
//RENAME THE FRAME TO 'over' !! 
aButtons[idx].gotoAndStop("over"); //toggle this button MC frame 
} 
function btnOutHandler(e:MouseEvent):void { 
 //get the position in the array of the clicked button 
 idx = aButtons.indexof(e.target); 
//RENAME THE FRAME TO 'out' !! 
aButtons[idx].gotoAndStop("out"); //toggle this button MC frame 
} 
 
I typed this instantly in this mail, so watch for a possible typo? 
I go to dinner now, and create and send the promised examples after that. 
 
If you have problems with the code above, please tell me. 
For simplicity, I suggest mailing a FLA to eachother. 
 
regards 
Cor 


 Karl DeSaulniers  schreef:
Hello All,
Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your help with  
some AS3.
I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on the most simple of  
things.
All I am trying to do is make some buttons work... lol
Here is my code.

button1_btn.buttonMode = true;
button2_btn.buttonMode = true;
button1_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button2_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ changeSelect(1); });
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function()  
{ changeSelect(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ toggleB1(2); });
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function()  
{ toggleB2(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function()  
{ toggleB1(1); });
button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function()  
{ toggleB2(1); });

function changeSelect(p):void {
switch (p) {
case 1:
this.gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); //goto frame 
divinedivers in this  
MC
break;
case 2:
this.gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); //got frame scubadudes 
in this MC
break;
}
}

function toggleB1(f):void {
button1_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame
}

function toggleB2(f):void {
button2_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame
}

Why does AS3 have to make things so difficult for something so simple??
What the heck am I doing wrong???

Also, how do you use just a button instead of a mc?
I tried using just a button and it wouldn't even switch to the over  
state that is inside the button!!?

AS2 is just so much more simple... sigh*

TIA,

Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com

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RE: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Merrill, Jason]

Right, it's cool, we're on the same page, my only point is there is no 
functional reason to use them (no pun intended) and in my personal opinion, 
they have more potential to introduce problems. 

 Jason Merrill
 Instructional Technology Architect II
 Bank of America  Global Learning 
 703.302.9265 (w/h)





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From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com 
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Paul A.
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:34 AM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

Jason, I wasn't arguing anything except that IMHO using them makes code more 
readable in some circumstances. It's not an either/or.

We can agree to differ.

On 24/10/2012 15:23, Merrill, Jason wrote:
> That still isn't an argument to use them in my opinion, personally I think 
> the code is much more convoluted that way. Your argument is essentially it's 
> a preference in coding style, not that there are situations that specifically 
> call for their use.
>
>   Jason Merrill
>   Instructional Technology Architect II
>   Bank of America  Global Learning
>   703.302.9265 (w/h)
>
>
>
>
>
> ___
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com 
> [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Paul A.
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:19 AM
> To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3
>
> On 24/10/2012 15:08, Merrill, Jason wrote:
>> Ok, what's a good case to use them?  Just curious, I have never found a 
>> situation where they were warranted.
> Sometimes (depending on what your buttons do), it seems rather artificial to 
> have to fabricate a stand-alone function to handle an event when the action 
> required is very simple.
>
> I used to always create named event handler functions and realised I was 
> adopting some fixed pattern that was actually obfuscating my code 
> unnecessarily in some situations.
>
> The OP was using an event handler simply to control the timeline and 
> manufacturing a named function to do this very specific thing seems 
> unnecessary. With an inline function you can see straight off what happens 
> when the event is handled, without looking up the handler function to see 
> what it does.
>>Jason Merrill
>>Instructional Technology Architect II
>>Bank of America  Global Learning
>>703.302.9265 (w/h)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ___
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com 
>> [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Paul A.
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:07 AM
>> To: Flash Coders List
>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3
>>
>> On 24/10/2012 14:43, Merrill, Jason wrote:
>>>>> function() { gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });
>>> Yeah, this is weird and unnecessary. Anonymous functions are recommended 
>>> against in AS3.
>> Really?
>>
>> I used to be of the same opinion, but certainly not as a blanket rule.
>> It all depends.
>>
>>> Jason Merrill
>>> Instructional Technology Architect II
>>>     Bank of America  Global Learning
>>> 703.302.9265 (w/h)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ___
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com 
>>> [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Paul A.
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:33 AM
>>> To: Flash Coders List
>>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3
>>>
>>> Try removing:
>>>
>>> button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
>>> button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;
>>>
>>> Your code is a bit convoluted!
>>>
>>> divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() { 
>>> gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); }); 
>>> scuba_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() { 
>>> gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); });
>>>
>>> divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() { 
>>> divers_btn.gotoAndStop("OVER");});
>>> ..
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On 24/10/2012 12:39, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your help 
>>>> with some AS3.
>>>> I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on 

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Paul A.]

Jason, I wasn't arguing anything except that IMHO using them makes code 
more readable in some circumstances. It's not an either/or.


We can agree to differ.

On 24/10/2012 15:23, Merrill, Jason wrote:

That still isn't an argument to use them in my opinion, personally I think the 
code is much more convoluted that way. Your argument is essentially it's a 
preference in coding style, not that there are situations that specifically 
call for their use.

  Jason Merrill
  Instructional Technology Architect II
  Bank of America  Global Learning
  703.302.9265 (w/h)





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From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com 
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Paul A.
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:19 AM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

On 24/10/2012 15:08, Merrill, Jason wrote:

Ok, what's a good case to use them?  Just curious, I have never found a 
situation where they were warranted.

Sometimes (depending on what your buttons do), it seems rather artificial to 
have to fabricate a stand-alone function to handle an event when the action 
required is very simple.

I used to always create named event handler functions and realised I was 
adopting some fixed pattern that was actually obfuscating my code unnecessarily 
in some situations.

The OP was using an event handler simply to control the timeline and 
manufacturing a named function to do this very specific thing seems 
unnecessary. With an inline function you can see straight off what happens when 
the event is handled, without looking up the handler function to see what it 
does.

   Jason Merrill
   Instructional Technology Architect II
   Bank of America  Global Learning
   703.302.9265 (w/h)





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From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com 
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Paul A.
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:07 AM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

On 24/10/2012 14:43, Merrill, Jason wrote:

function() { gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });

Yeah, this is weird and unnecessary. Anonymous functions are recommended 
against in AS3.

Really?

I used to be of the same opinion, but certainly not as a blanket rule.
It all depends.


Jason Merrill
Instructional Technology Architect II
Bank of America  Global Learning
703.302.9265 (w/h)





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From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com 
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Paul A.
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:33 AM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

Try removing:

button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

Your code is a bit convoluted!

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() {
gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });
scuba_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() {
gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); });

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() {
divers_btn.gotoAndStop("OVER");});
..

Paul

On 24/10/2012 12:39, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

Hello All,
Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your help
with some AS3.
I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on the most simple of
things.
All I am trying to do is make some buttons work... lol Here is my
code.

button1_btn.buttonMode = true;
button2_btn.buttonMode = true;
button1_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button2_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() {
changeSelect(1); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK,
function() { changeSelect(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() {
toggleB1(2); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER,
function() { toggleB2(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function() {
toggleB1(1); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT,
function() { toggleB2(1); });

function changeSelect(p):void {
   switch (p) {
   case 1:
   this.gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); //goto frame
divinedivers in this MC
   break;
   case 2:
   this.gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); //got frame scubadudes
in this MC
   break;
   }
}

function toggleB1(f):void {
   button1_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame
}

function toggleB2(f):void {
   button2_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame
}

Why does AS3 have to make things so difficult for something so simple??
What the heck am I doing wrong???

Also, how do you use just a button instead of a mc?
I tried using just a button and it wouldn't even switch to the over
state that is inside th

Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

[Paul A.]

On 24/10/2012 15:08, Merrill, Jason wrote:

Ok, what's a good case to use them?  Just curious, I have never found a 
situation where they were warranted.
Sometimes (depending on what your buttons do), it seems rather 
artificial to have to fabricate a stand-alone function to handle an 
event when the action required is very simple.


I used to always create named event handler functions and realised I was 
adopting some fixed pattern that was actually obfuscating my code 
unnecessarily in some situations.


The OP was using an event handler simply to control the timeline and 
manufacturing a named function to do this very specific thing seems 
unnecessary. With an inline function you can see straight off what 
happens when the event is handled, without looking up the handler 
function to see what it does.


  Jason Merrill
  Instructional Technology Architect II
  Bank of America  Global Learning
  703.302.9265 (w/h)





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-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com 
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Paul A.
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:07 AM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

On 24/10/2012 14:43, Merrill, Jason wrote:

function() { gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });

Yeah, this is weird and unnecessary. Anonymous functions are recommended 
against in AS3.

Really?

I used to be of the same opinion, but certainly not as a blanket rule.
It all depends.


   Jason Merrill
   Instructional Technology Architect II
   Bank of America  Global Learning
   703.302.9265 (w/h)





___

-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com 
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Paul A.
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:33 AM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AS3

Try removing:

button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

Your code is a bit convoluted!

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() {
gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); });
scuba_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() {
gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); });

divers_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() {
divers_btn.gotoAndStop("OVER");});
..

Paul

On 24/10/2012 12:39, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:

Hello All,
Long time. If your available at the moment, I could use your help
with some AS3.
I finally got an AS3 job! Yay! But I am stuck on the most simple of
things.
All I am trying to do is make some buttons work... lol Here is my
code.

button1_btn.buttonMode = true;
button2_btn.buttonMode = true;
button1_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button2_btn.useHandCursor = true;
button1_btn.mouseChildren = false;
button2_btn.mouseChildren = false;

button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, function() {
changeSelect(1); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK,
function() { changeSelect(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER, function() {
toggleB1(2); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OVER,
function() { toggleB2(2); });
button1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT, function() {
toggleB1(1); }); button2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.ROLL_OUT,
function() { toggleB2(1); });

function changeSelect(p):void {
  switch (p) {
  case 1:
  this.gotoAndStop("divinedivers"); //goto frame
divinedivers in this MC
  break;
  case 2:
  this.gotoAndStop("scubadudes"); //got frame scubadudes
in this MC
  break;
  }
}

function toggleB1(f):void {
  button1_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame }

function toggleB2(f):void {
  button2_btn.gotoAndStop(f); //toggle this button MC frame }

Why does AS3 have to make things so difficult for something so simple??
What the heck am I doing wrong???

Also, how do you use just a button instead of a mc?
I tried using just a button and it wouldn't even switch to the over
state that is inside the button!!?

AS2 is just so much more simple... sigh*

TIA,

Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com

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