[Flightgear-devel] New Autopilot Documentation

2004-02-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: I've slapped together a short document on controller tuning. [ snip ] Thanks Roy! For everyone: I've integrated this into a larger document which attempts to explain the basic ideas behind control theory and then describes the specific PID algorithm we have implimented

[Flightgear-devel] Autopilot update.

2004-01-31 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I'm tempted to commit my autopilot changes to cvs. Here's what I have done so far. - I've implimented Roy's suggested PID algorithm. Compared to what we had, this algorithm is better behaved, is much more configurable, and much more tunable. It can be made to do a much better job of easing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot update.

2004-01-31 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon Berndt wrote: Does this make it any easier to bypass the FlightGear autopilot (and perhaps soon-to-exist) FCS system, so the FDM could provide this functionality, if desired - perhaps by simply not including an autopilot/FCS file or definition through your new method? This is very important to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot update.

2004-01-31 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon Berndt wrote: Yes this is where it gets complicated. There are modes that are obviously relevant to mere flight dynamics, such as attitude hold, heading select, wings level, terrain following, etc. -- and even these use *sensor* inputs as opposed to actual FDM aircraft state data. The other

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot update.

2004-01-31 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Culp wrote: Comments? Any objections to committing my updates? It looks great, and I think the sooner it gets commited the better, so we'll have plenty of time to work with it before 0.9.4. I already have a wish list :) mach hold, and vertical speed hold. Ok, it's been at least an hour

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot update.

2004-01-31 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Norman Vine wrote: Hmm... 1 hour 08 minutes on a weekend Was any discussion really wanted :-) Being a volunteer and doing this on weekends and evenings, I've got to move quickly when I do get the chance. I've been working hard on this and trying to factor in comments and suggestions made

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot update.

2004-01-31 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Small glitch at run time : route = 0D7673D8 Failed to load autopilot configuration: fgfsbase/Aircraft/Generic/generic-autopilot.xml CVS Updated and no generic-autopilot.xml Gaahhh! I swear I added that file. Ok, it's there now. Sorry about that. Curt. -- Curtis Olson

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question about the threaded tile loader

2004-01-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Occasionally, a tile can reference 3d models that require calling ssgLoadXYZ() ... things like building, bridges, etc. When the threaded tile loader runs into any of these, it will push the object onto a separate model loading

Re: [Flightgear-devel] test

2004-01-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mail transaction failed. Partial message is available. Oh no! Curt's infected. cough cough We have to kill him now. Is that Oregon's answer to affordable universal health coverage? :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson HumanFIRST Program

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BUG: Fog disappears when looking towards sun

2004-01-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Luff wrote: There seems to be a problem with the fogging on my machine (Linux, NVidia card). When the sun is in, or just out of, the field of view, the fog disappears and visibility is perfect. This is most easily seen by starting at dawn or dusk, and with a low visibility (eg 5000), climb

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New autopilot

2004-01-28 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: I don't think this should be part of the PID algorithm. I think we should use your hack and apply it to the setpoint to the v/s or pitch. This means that we need some sort of if ... then functionality. I just started looking at Nasal, and I think that could be used for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question about the threaded tile loader

2004-01-28 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Luff wrote: Could someone please clarify my understanding of the threaded tile loader? I'll take a stab at it. :-) My initial pre-conception before reading the code was that the loader thread would simply load the data from disk, and pass off a memory buffer containing an image of the disk

[Flightgear-devel] [OT] Ventura publisher (really old)

2004-01-28 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Ok, I'm abusing my powers here to ask a really [OT] question. If anyone objects, you definitely wouldn't be out of line. But it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission, right? :-) I have some really old, as in ancient ventura publishing files that I'd be interesting at cracking open and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New autopilot

2004-01-27 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Innis Cunningham wrote: This is what I dont understand what is wrong with the current system which can do heading,V/S,wing leveler,vor/loc(nav),approach,and autothrottle are these not accurate enough?. Also how much more computing power will be required for what ever extra detail may be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New autopilot

2004-01-27 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:13:44 -, Richard Bytheway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be the responsibility of the autopilot designer. If he/she designed a control structure that used two separate controllers that acted on the ailerons, that would be his/her problem.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Can we ban outlook users from the list?

2004-01-27 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson wrote: Just a thought :-) I got lectured once in a job interview (that obviously did not go well for me.) The interviewer didn't like my answer on the future of computer security. He asserted that in 6 months (this was 10 years ago) that all security problems would be solved

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Can we ban outlook users from the list?

2004-01-27 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Cameron Moore wrote: Yes, we can actually. Just filter out this in Mailman: ^X-Mailer:.*Outlook Problem solved. ;-P gritting teeth Must fight ... the ... urge ... to ... /gritting teeth Disclaimer. We love our outlook users, just not the virus and security problems that seem to plague

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New autopilot: Propulsion only FCS

2004-01-27 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon Berndt wrote: My understanding is that they will be doing a lot of thrust vectoring ... lots of research is/has been done in that area. Curt. No. This paper describes tests on a B-747, C-17, and MD-11 using propulsion only: http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/DTRS/1999/PDF/H-2331.pdf Differential

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Possible typo in tilemgr.cxx line 180

2004-01-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Luff wrote: tilemgr.cxx contains the following block of code (lines 178 - 181): xrange = (int)(vis / tile_width) + 1; yrange = (int)(vis / tile_height) + 1; if ( xrange 1 ) { xrange /= 1; } if ( yrange 1 ) { yrange = 1; } It looks to me like there might be a stray / sign

Re: [Flightgear-devel] XGL

2004-01-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Erik Hofman wrote: Well, here is a standard that *you* can actually try to influence ... BTW. XML makes extending the existent layout without influencing the previous versions possible by nature. All that would need to happen is for someon to write a plib reader/writer for the xgl format and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] enrty and exit points of main loop

2004-01-23 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Snyder Adam D Civ AFRL/VACD wrote: Not really, I just need to find a way to clean-up when I am finished. Here's one option. If you put all your code inside a class, then you should be able to put your clean up stuff into the class destructor. That should automatically be called when the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] XGL

2004-01-23 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just read about an XML based 3d file format: http://www.xglspec.org/ We might want to keep an eye on that. I must admit that I didn't understand the advantage over existing 3D object/scene description file formats, I wonder if this is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposed change to Terrain Following control

2004-01-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: And I firmly believe that we _should_ use the instrument values because in my mind using /position/... and /velocities/... would be cheating, theese perfect values are _not_ available in the real world. I definitely agree. We should have instrument values well modeled

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposed change to Terrain Following control

2004-01-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Culp wrote: This thread is scaring me. I hope we aren't deciding to hard-wire the autoflight inputs from panel instrument output? The input choice will be strictly optional, right? Figures, I just finished screwing the cowl back on ... The whole point of defining the autopilot via xml is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposed change to Terrain Following control

2004-01-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Lee Elliott wrote: I've been giving quite a bit of thought to look-ahead algorithms for terrain following. The most straight forward way would be to take a number of look-ahead samples each frame, and simply take the highest point as the target alt. Taking a lot of samples each frame can't be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposed change to Terrain Following control

2004-01-21 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: Let me share my thoughts about the autopilot: * I would like to see the autopilot move from c++ code into the instrument configuration xml-files. This is my general plan. Right now I have the autopilot config in a separate .xml file * The autopilot should get input

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: Linux User Developer Expo 2004]

2004-01-20 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Culp wrote: On Wednesday 14 January 2004 08:29 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote: FlightGear has been offered free .org booth space and a possible speaker slot at the Linux User Developer Expo 2004. This is Oct 20-21 at the Olympia Exhibition Centre in London, UK. You don't necessarily need

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposed change to Terrain Following control

2004-01-20 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Lee Elliott wrote: Hello All, I'd like to propose a change to the way that the Terrain Following (TF) agl value is set and controlled. Currently, when TF mode is selected, the current a/c agl value is used but I'd like to change this so that this value is set, and can be changed via the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changing a model format

2004-01-20 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Tim Jelliffe wrote: Hi guys, I have a general question regarding the creation of a model. I have been working on creating a model of a Learjet 55, using CATIA V5. This is mainly because I used this during my degree and am basically familiar with it. I am also determined to have a model which

[Flightgear-devel] IRC

2004-01-19 Thread Curtis L. Olson
For any of you interested in doing IRC, Nic Fischer has given us a channel on his IRC server. Just connect up to irc.flightgear.org and join the #flightgear channel. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson Intelligent Vehicles Lab FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] IRC

2004-01-19 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:21:24 -0600, Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For any of you interested in doing IRC, Nic Fischer has given us a channel on his IRC server. Just connect up to irc.flightgear.org and join the #flightgear channel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems compiling plib

2004-01-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Christopher S Horler wrote: I don't use many cvs commands, but one I use a fair bit is log. However I've never figured out how to make it only display the last e.g. 5 log entries or from a certain date... if it doesn't do it it should... I don't know if there is a command to display the last 5

[Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: Linux User Developer Expo 2004]

2004-01-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
FlightGear has been offered free .org booth space and a possible speaker slot at the Linux User Developer Expo 2004. This is Oct 20-21 at the Olympia Exhibition Centre in London, UK. You don't necessarily need to be a developer to help with the booth, but a moderate working knowledge of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: Linux User Developer Expo 2004]

2004-01-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FlightGear has been offered free .org booth space and a possible speaker slot at the Linux User Developer Expo 2004. This is Oct 20-21 at the Olympia Exhibition Centre in London, UK. You don't necessarily need to be a developer

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: Linux User Developer Expo 2004]

2004-01-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Luff wrote: OK, that's a definate now :-) Ok, so far here is what I have: - Al West can definitely be there. - David Luff can definitely be there. - Jon Stockhill probably will be at the show and probably can help with the booth. - Matthew Law thinks he can be there but needs to clear it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Instrument Switching

2004-01-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Innis Cunningham wrote: I guess this question is for David Megginson or Erik Hofman. I would like to have the ability to turn instruments on and off in the 2D panel XML file is this already possible.If so how?. If not would it be a big job to add it to the panel XML code. Thanks for any idea's.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: yf23 brakes

2004-01-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross wrote: So which wheels get controlled by the parking brake on the bo105, harrier, or 747? :) This same subject just came up a few days ago. The real bug is that we're trying to associate brake controls with individual wheels, which is just wrong. The only standard for brakes in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Duplicate node?

2004-01-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John Wojnaroski wrote: Walking thru some code yesterday, I noticed the following: In tilemgr.cxx at lines 319 and 321 there are two entries for adding taxi lights. Is that what is intended? Yeah you are right, there is a problem there. I have checked in a fix to CVS. Curt. -- Curtis Olson

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS building fails, do I have a problem here?

2004-01-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Vikki, I don't see -lglut listed on the link command line. You probably want to rerun the configure script and make sure that the glut test there succeeds. If not, then look in your config.log to see exactly what failed. Regards, Curt. Victoria Welch wrote: Hi Folks, A couple days or so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear mouse pad

2004-01-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Hof Markus wrote: nice layout... is this a faked frame rate? ;-) if not pretty good. how come? Probably because Eric runs on sgi hardware. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson Intelligent Vehicles Lab FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minnesota

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS building fails, do I have a problem here?

2004-01-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
for the response. I went through config log (~=2500 lines :) and am no more enlightended - see below :-(. On Sunday 11 January 2004 14:14, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Vikki, I don't see -lglut listed on the link command line. You probably want to rerun the configure script and make sure

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Panel Building ?!?

2004-01-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Victoria Welch wrote: I'm thinking I want to get into building panels for FG aircraft. Either I am missing it or the tools for the job are vi, gimp, an XML reference and all the FG header files ?!? Any comments or suggestions appreciated! I'll chime in with a couple comments. First off,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalization?

2004-01-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Lee Elliott wrote: Heh - it seem to me that most of the kids here (UK) just speak pretty bad english;) That depends on how you look at it. You could say that english is whatever english speaking people are speaking these days. Or you could flip that around and come up with some defined

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: CVS: data/Scenery/w130n30/w123n37 light-pat-1.rgb, NONE, 1.1 baybridge-e-fb.ac, 1.1, 1.2 baybridge-fb.ac, 1.6, 1.7 baybridge-fb.xml, 1.4, 1.5 ggb-fb.xml, 1.3, 1.4

2004-01-09 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Frederic BOUVIER wrote: Thanks, glad to see you like it and it doesn't kill all the framerate. For people that are not following CVS updates, check out : http://perso.wanadoo.fr/frbouvi/flightsim/sanfran.htm The lights are brighter in FG than on jpeg but you will have an idea. That remind me that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] illuminated baybridge

2004-01-09 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson wrote: Actually, if you're approaching a runway from about 90 degrees, it's the taxiway lights that you can see -- the runway lights are invisible until you're right overhead. Yes, it's a subtle effect and you may not notice it unless you are looking for it specifically, but all

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Oh dear....

2004-01-09 Thread Curtis L. Olson
We probably should steer away from the political discussion stuff (on this forum) before we forget we are working on an open source simulator. :-) Curt. Christian Mayer wrote: David Megginson schrieb: JD Fenech wrote: This is pretty sad. It's times like this when I start to consider

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Dead links on the FG website

2004-01-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Frederic BOUVIER writes: Hi Curt, the 'Contributors' link give 404. The link 'thanks.html' should be 'thanks.shtml'. Thanks for catching this ... Curt. -- Curtis Olson HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Citiescurt 'at' me.umn.edu curt 'at'

Re: [Flightgear-devel] autopilot, maintaining elevation

2004-01-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Seamus Thomas Carroll writes: I am playing with the autopilot and maintaining an altitidue above sea level works great. Is there a method for maintaining an elevation above the ground? Ctrl-t will toggle a mode that attempts to maintain the current altitude above ground. The algorithm is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DC-3 3d cockpit

2004-01-07 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson writes: Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jim Wilson wrote: Note, I'm suggesting adding Andy's work to plib as an alternative optimizer function, not a replacement for the current code. No need for this. They produce identical results if you set the sharp angle to 180

Re: [Flightgear-devel] c172-610x

2004-01-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Gerhard, Try this: fgfs --aircraft=c172-610x-jsbsim Intentionally, the c172-610x doesn't have an internal fdm definition so it only works if the fdm information is coming from some external source. To say it another way, the c172-610x *allows* you to specify an external fdm source which is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] c172-610x

2004-01-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Gerhard Wesp writes: fgfs --aircraft=c172-610x-jsbsim Already tried this on the Windows version, didn't work too. Strange, it works for me here. I've now just installed the Linux Debian packages (0.9.3) by Ove Kaaven. On this platform, I get: debian ~% fgfs

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DC-3 3d cockpit

2004-01-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson
You should also check *very* carefully to make sure you don't have a stray packaged copy of plib installed on your system somewhere. If that was built with a different version of the compiler (very plausible) then you would see errors similar to what you are reporting. Regards, Curt. Josh

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DC-3 3d cockpit

2004-01-05 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Josh Babcock writes: Actually, I think that I nuked the base makefile by unzipping the patch in that directory. That brings me back to the original problem, which is that I can't log into the CVS repository. I guess I'll just keep trying. I tried applying the patches to the regular

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Glideslope on KSFO 28R ?

2004-01-05 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Victoria Welch writes: I've been burried here lately and haven't had a chance to try someplace else yet, but is there no glideslope on the ils there or do I have a problem? The glide slope indicator never uncages - just stays centered (c172, C310). The glide slope should be working.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Repeatable VASI light observations

2003-12-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Curtis L. Olson writes: I did some work this evening in simgear/flightgear to track some additional vasi positional information so that I can then compute the angle and correct color. This is a first stab and the result is a gross simplification of what really happens. There are some things

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/dc3/Models dc3-dpm.ac, 1.7, 1.8 dc3-dpm.xml, 1.10, 1.11

2003-12-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David, (Andy?) It appears that in the latest cvs, we have lost the ability to control the engines independently. Previously you could type Shift-1 Shift-2 Shift-3 ... etc. to select an engine. Then '{' and '}' would select the magnetos. Finally, space bar would kick in the starter motor for as

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/dc3/Models dc3-dpm.ac, 1.7, 1.8 dc3-dpm.xml, 1.10, 1.11

2003-12-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: Curtis L. Olson wrote: David, (Andy?) It appears that in the latest cvs, we have lost the ability to control the engines independently. This one is mine. The recent Nasal stuff contains a rework of the engine handling to allow for arbitrary numbers of engines

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/dc3/Models dc3-dpm.ac, 1.7, 1.8 dc3-dpm.xml, 1.10, 1.11

2003-12-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S Berndt writes: On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:49:30 -0600 Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, (Andy?) It appears that in the latest cvs, we have lost the ability to control the engines independently. Previously you could type Shift-1 Shift-2 Shift-3 ... etc. to select

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/dc3/Models dc3-dpm.ac, 1.7, 1.8 dc3-dpm.xml, 1.10, 1.11

2003-12-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: Curtis L. Olson wrote: David, (Andy?) It appears that in the latest cvs, we have lost the ability to control the engines independently. This one is mine. The recent Nasal stuff contains a rework of the engine handling to allow for arbitrary numbers of engines

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/dc3/Models dc3-dpm.ac, 1.7, 1.8 dc3-dpm.xml, 1.10, 1.11

2003-12-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: Curtis L. Olson wrote: David, (Andy?) It appears that in the latest cvs, we have lost the ability to control the engines independently. This one is mine. The recent Nasal stuff contains a rework of the engine handling to allow for arbitrary numbers of engines

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/dc3/Models dc3-dpm.ac, 1.7, 1.8 dc3-dpm.xml, 1.10, 1.11

2003-12-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: Sure, there's a print() function which uses SG_LOG; for exactly this purpose. There's even a fancy dump() method on a property node that you can use to dump a property tree to the console. Ok, thanks, I eventually found it. Quite useful, thanks. :-) It turns out to be a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Output/Input of IGC files for FG

2003-12-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Pablo J. Rogina writes: I was following the FG evolution since a long time, and I´m now willing to to get involved to Flightgear. I think is quite a project where I´m to be able to merge two of my hobbies: aviation and computing. In order to contribute, I've selected to provide FG with the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrain shadows and VASI

2003-12-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Hoyt A. Fleming writes: A month or so ago I noticed that the VASI lights vary based upon the pitch of the aircraft. This is a bug (or implimentation limitation) or whatever you want to call it. It's high on the todo list to be fixed. Over the holiday break, I noticed that the terrain shadows

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Repeatable VASI light observations

2003-12-29 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Originally I tried to leverage an environment mapping trick to impliment the VASI. However, my understanding of how this work was not quite right, nor was the understanding of the person who suggested this trick in the first place. The result is that the VASI is dependent on the view direction,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] SimGear CVS - error

2003-12-27 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Ok, should be fixed ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Samstag, 27. Dezember 2003 15:55 schrieb Jacek: I have just tried to update from cvs: cvs update: Updating simgear/compatibility cvs update: Updating simgear/compatibility/MIPSpro721 cvs update: failed to create lock directory

Re: [Flightgear-devel] SimGear CVS - error

2003-12-27 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Erik Hofman writes: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Ok, should be fixed ... (/var/cvs/SimGear-0.3/SimGear/simgear/compatibility/MIPSpro721/#cvs.lock): Permission denied Do you have any idea what is causing these problems? As far as I can tell everything went smooth. When new directories

[Flightgear-devel] Merry Christmas

2003-12-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Merry Christmas from Minnesota. I just received this so I thought I'd pass it along in case other's hadn't seen it yet ... Curt. -- Curtis Olson HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Citiescurt 'at' me.umn.edu curt 'at' flightgear.org Minnesota

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: LiveCD for FGFS - suggestion

2003-12-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Hi Martin, Martin Spott writes: Especially the mess with NVidia's drivers is the manufacturer's fault. ATI at least _tries_ to conform with the standards proposed by the DRI. With ATI you can copy the DRI driver module and the kernel module (after tweaking the build script) to the appropriate

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: LiveCD for FGFS - suggestion

2003-12-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin writes: It became sort of a hobby to collect used Unix workstations. I have an Octane with MXI graphics and TRAM as workplace at home, but this machine (only 195 MHz) turned out not being able to keep up with recent development. Its CPU is simply too slow and can't cope with all the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LiveCD for FGFS - suggestion

2003-12-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott writes: I never owned an NVidia card, so I can't compare performance. Maybe someone else has the opportunity to do that: Currently I have a Radeon7500 plugged into a Pentium3/600 (I believe this one is still running at 66 MHz external clock) with standard SuSE-9.0 XFree (built

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: LiveCD for FGFS - suggestion

2003-12-21 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott writes: Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Martin Spott -- Sunday 21 December 2003 00:07: I tend to include OpenSource drivers only, no proprietary stuff. I understand, but then the whole effort is pretty useless. There are too many nVidia card users, and no open

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: LiveCD for FGFS - suggestion

2003-12-21 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott writes: Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the open source drivers don't support some of the newer ATI cards. Sorry, why do you buy cards that are not supported by OpenSource drivers ? You are developing OpenSource software, why don't you take care of that. I can't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: LiveCD for FGFS - suggestion

2003-12-21 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott writes: Not many, but on the other hand you won't have much trouble with the BIOS when you think about a standalone FlightGear CD. Dealing with a bunch of different kernel modules for autodetecting different vendors' cards might prove to end in a huge mess. This _is_ very

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: LiveCD for FGFS - suggestion

2003-12-21 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Alex Perry writes: From: Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the open source drivers don't support some of the newer ATI cards. Sorry, why do you buy cards that are not supported by OpenSource drivers ? You are developing OpenSource software, why

[Flightgear-devel] sample script

2003-12-19 Thread Curtis L. Olson
If anyone is interested in external scripting of FlightGear, I've added another quick example to $fgsrc/scripts/perl/examples/ The reset.pl script will reset FlightGear to a particular airport/runway at a fixed interval (i.e. every 5 minutes.) It also sets the time of day to noon and makes sure

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Cockpit Hardware Building

2003-12-18 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Alan King writes: Rudder pedals. Been a while since I was at the controls in a Cessna etc, how much control throw is normal? With a one foot seperation between the pedals 4 seems like a lot, maybe too much. Currently have 2 in and 2 out for the 4 total, but can easily shorten it up,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Cockpit Hardware Building

2003-12-18 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Alan King writes: Yes it is. But the control feedback in the simulator EXACTLY matching real life is not critical. For that matter a Cessna rudder probably doesn't exactly match a P-51 rudder either, but I have no doubts that learning rudder on said Cessna prepares you for 80 or 90

Re: [Flightgear-devel] WGS84 changes

2003-12-18 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy, Why don't we go ahead and commit one of these since both sound a lot better than what we have now. Then we could do some timing tests and see if we need to consider trading precision for faster performance. Regards, Curt. Andy Ross writes: Norman Vine wrote: Yes, this was written

RE: [Flightgear-devel] latest AI tricks

2003-12-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Norman Vine writes: http://www.boston.com/news/galleries/2003/domeplane/01.htm Nice ... :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Citiescurt 'at' me.umn.edu curt 'at' flightgear.org Minnesota http://www.flightgear.org/~curt

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] Slackware, USB, CH yoke

2003-12-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: As always, everything seems quite 'trivial' to those who haven't actually tried to do it. Hurry up and build a running robot too while you're at it.. Plonk. Does anyone with a real clue have an answer for this? Sorry, not me. I was waiting until after I get finished

[Flightgear-devel] Kool site of the day ...

2003-12-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Kim Komando has FlightGear listed as her kool site of the day. http://www.komando.com/ Klick on Kim's Kool sites followed by Go to today's kool site. Looks like we are experiencing the Kim Effect, but our server is holding together. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson HumanFIRST Program

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync not working correctly?

2003-12-15 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Hi Matevz, I was able to run rsync fine last night after my first reply to your problem so I believe the rsync server should be working just fine. Curt. Matevz Jekovec writes: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Matevz Jekovec writes: Ok, I run fgfs with the following arguments: --fg-root=/home

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync not working correctly?

2003-12-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Matevz Jekovec writes: Ok, I run fgfs with the following arguments: --fg-root=/home/matevz/fgfs/data --atlas=socket,out,1,localhost,5500,udp --fg-scenery=/home/matevz/fgfs/data/Scenery --airport=LJLJ and I run nice terrasync -p 5500 -d /home/matevz/fgfs/data/Scenery And I found myself

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [BUG] simgear/io/sg_socket.cxx: funny code

2003-12-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ writes: BTW: reverting the last patch and going back to revision 1.2 fixes the bug. But it does still not explain the client zombie. Strange, someone suggested this as a fix. Note that previously, read() and readline() were not consistant. the patch made them consistant. The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT re] Perthon -- Python to Perl Language Translation

2003-12-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jonathan Richards writes: On Tuesday 09 Dec 2003 9:37 pm, Norman Vine wrote: http://perthon.sourceforge.net/ :-) Interesting - I don't often see two (purportedly) equivalent pieces of code together like that. I put both examples into files: the python is 668 bytes, whereas the perl

Re: Cockpit Hardware Building (was: Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-16 cockpit)

2003-12-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Manuel Bessler writes: OK, No problem. Maybe we should really consider a mailinglist for that as Al has mentioned. Even if it'll be very low traffic. The question would be whether this would/could be hosted officially along the other fgfs list, or if we should set up something independet of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Taxiway / Apron lighting advice wanted.

2003-12-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Luff writes: Now, that I've edited a few taxiways, I could do with some advice on airport lighting before sending them off to Robin Peel. Documentation on taxiway lighting seems quite (very) hard to come by, so could some airport users give me some advice for various classes of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Taxiway / Apron lighting advice wanted.

2003-12-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Possibly, but from what I've heard, the main reason for centreline lighting on runways is to support Cat II and III ILS approaches (down to a 50 ft ceiling); probably, the same applies to taxiway lighting, since you'll have ground ops in *extremely* low visibility.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] field of view script

2003-12-09 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: Jim Wilson wrote: Ummm...why does this matter? Why wouldn't it? :) It would be nice to be able to at least be able overzoom and simulate a telephoto lens (as before.) Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Cities

Re: [Flightgear-devel] field of view script

2003-12-09 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: This is mind bogglingly easy to fix. But what is the desired behavior? What I want is a limit that will tell me when I've zoomed to as far as a human pilot would actually be able to see from the cockpit. What do you guys want? If you want to overzoom only from the

[Flightgear-devel] NMEA output (i.e. faking a gps receiver for use with other moving map/gps software)

2003-12-09 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I just commited some fixes to the NMEA output to make it more usable. This allows FlightGear to to pretend it is a gps and send fake gps sentences out the serial port. You can then feed the other end of the serial cable into something running some real moving map/gps software and that software

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery testing

2003-12-09 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Erik Hofman writes: Jon Stockill wrote: I've just been having a look at some of the new airports I've generated, and I've noticed an error with the new ufo model - the great big red anti-collision light from the front is missing ;-) Heh, I noticed that too recently. I was mostly busy

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rsync vulnerability

2003-12-07 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Simon Fowler writes: Actually, ext3 is a better choice than XFS if you really care about your data - it does full data journalling (at a performance cost), unlike XFS which only journals metadata. Since it halves your write performance people generally don't use it, but it's there in ext3 . .

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rsync vulnerability

2003-12-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott writes: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ftp.flightgear.org is still rebooting ... /dev/hdh1 (120Gb) has gone 204 days without being checked, check forced ... might be another hour or two ... :-) I usually put everything over 10 GByte on XFS per 'default' - as well

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rsync vulnerability

2003-12-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Paul Surgeon writes: Can't you just force a check every now and then from a cron job? Anyway it's a small problem - a few hours of down time every year won't hurt anyone. You need to unmount the drive before fsck'ing it, which you can't do unless all services / processes using files on that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] NMEA *out* to a Garmin

2003-12-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Does anyone know if it's possible for a Garmin GPS to take its position information from external NMEA input, rather than just broadcasting the position as NMEA output? I wanted to experiment with using my (brand-new) Garmin 196 slaved to FlightGear, but I have not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Command Options

2003-12-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John Wojnaroski writes: Has anyone been successful in running some of the dual headed video cards with FG? I've never had a chance to play with a multi-headed opengl card. However, I've always been a little dubious about what kind of results they would yield. If you want to render two

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rsync vulnerability

2003-12-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: The automatic filesystem check is an issue of filesystem policy, and says nothing about the implementation thereof. Neither, I should add, does the appelation enterprise. :) If I had to pick, I'd go for reiserfs because of the nifty tail folding. But saying that XFS is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] about the teleporting bug

2003-12-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson writes: The addition of this code on 10/23 to fg_init.cxx is what started the problem with the aircraft crashing on teleports: cout fgInitPosition() endl; double gs = fgGetDouble(/sim/presets/glideslope-deg) * SG_DEGREES_TO_RADIANS ;

[Flightgear-devel] location dialog

2003-12-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Is there a way to preset certain property values when opening up a dialog box? I see that we can force arbitrary property values when clicking ok, but it would be nice to force some default values when a dialog box is opened. Thanks, Curt. -- Curtis Olson HumanFIRST Program

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