Re: [gentoo-user] MAJOR udev problem, PLEASE help
Yes, everything worked just fine. It indeed switched my ethernet to a different interface (eth1). Not a problem. On 6/11/07, Redouane Boumghar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Trenton, Ok it's been a month since this thread but... I found myself too oftenly in front of unsolved archived threads. Did you recompile your kernel with udev support ? I had a similar problem with a PCMCIA ethernet card while turning my system to udev. I recompiled my kernel with the same options and adding udev support and it worked smoothly (even had a shorter boot time :-) ) Check Code Listing 2.2 in : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml # # General setup --- # [*] Support for hot-pluggable devices # # File systems --- # Pseudo filesystems --- # [*] /proc file system support # [*] Virtual memory file system support (former shm fs) # Trenton Adams wrote: I have an ethernet controller that worked until I updated my udev to the latest version. Regards, -- Redouane BOUMGHAR Physics, Remote Sensing and Digital Imagery Engineer --- The biggest mountain can fear the slow man. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] MAJOR udev problem, PLEASE help
Sorry for not replying earlier. Yes, I found it to be a fireware ethernet. Why udev would put that first makes no sense. I found another email on the list where someone had the same problem. Thanks. On 5/2/07, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2007 21:43:13 -0600, Trenton Adams wrote: I have an ethernet controller that worked until I updated my udev to the latest version. It shows up as follows from ifconfig eth0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-11-D8-00-00-7D-66-26-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 inet addr:192.168.20.2 Bcast:192.168.20.255 I don't understand what is happening. It sets my IP just fine, but the MAC address is WEIRD and there's no link. That MAC address looks like it could be a Firewire ethernet interface. Does ifconfig -a show your correct MAC address on another interface? If so, it is probably your persistent net rules messing things up, but if you don't use Firewire for ethernet, it's probably easiest to disable the eth1394 module. -- Neil Bothwick Drive not ready: (R)etry (G)o to Impulse (C)all Engineering -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] MAJOR udev problem, PLEASE help
I have an ethernet controller that worked until I updated my udev to the latest version. 00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a1) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 8141 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- Latency: 0 (250ns min, 5000ns max) Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16 Region 0: Memory at febd7000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Region 1: I/O ports at d080 [size=8] Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- It shows up as follows from ifconfig eth0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-11-D8-00-00-7D-66-26-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 inet addr:192.168.20.2 Bcast:192.168.20.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:14 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:504 (504.0 b) I have kernel 2.6.18-r4 from gentoo-sources I don't understand what is happening. It sets my IP just fine, but the MAC address is WEIRD and there's no link. The link light is on. I can ping my IP, but my gateway IP returns with destination host unreachable. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wireless network seems ok, but higher level stuff fails
I've been having the same problem with my ethernet device. I found on the net that a link status of *UNSPEC* likely means the usermode program does not match the running kernel. So, I figured it was probably that I needed to upgrade my kernel, seeing that udev was upgraded. Unfortunately, the latest gentoo kernel doesn't appear to work with my system out of the box. Starting to wonder if gentoo is going to pot. :) On 3/8/07, Paulo Roberto Candido dos Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's me again. I found more strange things about my problem. I think I'm getting closer: arp -n in the Gentoo Station reports: 169.254.0.1 (incomplete) ath0 Where 169.254.0.1 is the address of the AP. tcpdump -vv -i ath0 arp: 20:50:21.984182 arp who-has 169.254.0.1 tell 169.254.0.3 While I'm pinging the AP, I got truncated-arp messages in the AP tcpdump -vv ath0 arp output. The Station machine just got two replies: 64 bytes from 169.254.0.1: icmp_seq=424 ttl=64 time=0.400 ms 64 bytes from 169.254.0.1: icmp_seq=426 ttl=64 time=2998 ms It seems like my problem has something to do with the Signal Too Strong http://madwifi.org/wiki/FAQ/SignalTooStrong issue. I will move the AP to a place far from the station. So far no one replied to this, but I will keep posting in the hope that my attempts to make this works helps someone in the future. On 3/8/07, Paulo Roberto Candido dos Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another thing... I've loaded the ath_pci module with debug options and it gave me lots of information. When I try to ping (one request with ping -c 1) the ap from the station it prints the following information in /var/log/messages: Mar 8 17:43:04 yule ath_tx_start: skb0 f3221680 [data f7b9ac3c len 120] skbaddr 37b9ac3c Mar 8 17:43:04 yule TODS 00:19:5b:66:d8:b0-00:19:5b:66:d5:0c(00:19:5b:66:d5:0c) data QoS [TID 0] 54M Mar 8 17:43:04 yule Mar 8 17:43:04 yule 88 01 2c 00 00 19 5b 66 d5 0c 00 19 5b 66 d8 b0 Mar 8 17:43:04 yule 00 19 5b 66 d5 0c 50 06 00 00 d5 0c aa aa 03 00 Mar 8 17:43:04 yule 00 00 08 00 45 00 00 54 00 00 40 00 40 01 e6 a8 Mar 8 17:43:04 yule a9 fe 00 03 a9 fe 00 01 08 00 27 fc cd 16 00 01 Mar 8 17:43:04 yule 58 75 f0 45 c0 2d 0f 00 08 09 0a 0b 0c 0d 0e 0f Mar 8 17:43:04 yule 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f Mar 8 17:43:04 yule 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f Mar 8 17:43:04 yule 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 Mar 8 17:43:04 yule Mar 8 17:43:04 yule ath_tx_start: Q1: (ds)f706ae20 (lk) (d)37b9ac3c (c0)4124007a (c1)06008078 8000 000db50c Mar 8 17:43:04 yule ath_tx_txqaddbuf: link[1] (f706adc0)=3706ae20 (f706ae20) On 3/8/07, Paulo Roberto Candido dos Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list! I'm having some problems setting a wireless network consisting of a gentoo ap, one gentoo station and one Windows XP station. I've followed the instructions on the madwifi.org and on gentoo specialized forums and wiki. Seems like the wireless part of the network is just fine and every station can connect to the ap, but I can't do more than ping the hosts in the winxp station and the gentoo station connects to the network but can't do nothing... not even ping the ap. Nothing wrong with logs and signal... but it seems that all the network services and protocols (tcp, udp and icmp for the gentoo station) aren't working. The strange thing is that the Windows XP host can ping the ap, however it can't get a dhcp address and even using static IP can't access services on the AP like http and ssh. This machine can ping hosts on the internet but can't access tcp or udp services. Iptraf on the AP reports the connections. The other Gentoo workstation can scan and connect to the network but can't do nothing more. From the AP Linux Machine: /etc/conf.d/wireless: modules_ath0=( iwconfig ) config_ath0=( 169.254.0.1/16 ) mode_ath0=Master essid_ath0=skyshaper channel_ath0=10 iwpriv_ath0=( mode 3 ) dns_domain_skyshaper=local dns_servers_skyshaper=( 169.254.0.1 ) dmesg relevant parts: ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel. ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) ath_rate_sample: 1.2 (0.9.2.1) ath_pci: 0.9.4.5 (0.9.2.1) wifi0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps wifi0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps wifi0: turboG rates: 6Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps wifi0: H/W encryption support: WEP AES AES_CCM TKIP wifi0: mac 7.9 phy 4.5 radio 5.6 wifi0: Use hw queue 1 for WME_AC_BE traffic wifi0: Use hw queue 0 for WME_AC_BK traffic wifi0: Use hw queue 2 for WME_AC_VI traffic wifi0: Use hw queue 3 for WME_AC_VO traffic wifi0: Use hw queue 8 for CAB traffic wifi0: Use hw queue 9 for beacons wifi0: Atheros 5212: mem=0xdfdc, irq=11 lspci -vv relevant parts: 00:0e.0
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wireless network seems ok, but higher level stuff fails
Actually, go back to Feb 12 with a message called [gentoo-user] Network problem, it worked for me. udev may have changed your ethernet interface name. using ifconfig -a to check. On 5/2/07, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been having the same problem with my ethernet device. I found on the net that a link status of *UNSPEC* likely means the usermode program does not match the running kernel. So, I figured it was probably that I needed to upgrade my kernel, seeing that udev was upgraded. Unfortunately, the latest gentoo kernel doesn't appear to work with my system out of the box. Starting to wonder if gentoo is going to pot. :) On 3/8/07, Paulo Roberto Candido dos Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's me again. I found more strange things about my problem. I think I'm getting closer: arp -n in the Gentoo Station reports: 169.254.0.1 (incomplete) ath0 Where 169.254.0.1 is the address of the AP. tcpdump -vv -i ath0 arp: 20:50:21.984182 arp who-has 169.254.0.1 tell 169.254.0.3 While I'm pinging the AP, I got truncated-arp messages in the AP tcpdump -vv ath0 arp output. The Station machine just got two replies: 64 bytes from 169.254.0.1: icmp_seq=424 ttl=64 time=0.400 ms 64 bytes from 169.254.0.1: icmp_seq=426 ttl=64 time=2998 ms It seems like my problem has something to do with the Signal Too Strong http://madwifi.org/wiki/FAQ/SignalTooStrong issue. I will move the AP to a place far from the station. So far no one replied to this, but I will keep posting in the hope that my attempts to make this works helps someone in the future. On 3/8/07, Paulo Roberto Candido dos Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another thing... I've loaded the ath_pci module with debug options and it gave me lots of information. When I try to ping (one request with ping -c 1) the ap from the station it prints the following information in /var/log/messages: Mar 8 17:43:04 yule ath_tx_start: skb0 f3221680 [data f7b9ac3c len 120] skbaddr 37b9ac3c Mar 8 17:43:04 yule TODS 00:19:5b:66:d8:b0-00:19:5b:66:d5:0c(00:19:5b:66:d5:0c) data QoS [TID 0] 54M Mar 8 17:43:04 yule Mar 8 17:43:04 yule 88 01 2c 00 00 19 5b 66 d5 0c 00 19 5b 66 d8 b0 Mar 8 17:43:04 yule 00 19 5b 66 d5 0c 50 06 00 00 d5 0c aa aa 03 00 Mar 8 17:43:04 yule 00 00 08 00 45 00 00 54 00 00 40 00 40 01 e6 a8 Mar 8 17:43:04 yule a9 fe 00 03 a9 fe 00 01 08 00 27 fc cd 16 00 01 Mar 8 17:43:04 yule 58 75 f0 45 c0 2d 0f 00 08 09 0a 0b 0c 0d 0e 0f Mar 8 17:43:04 yule 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f Mar 8 17:43:04 yule 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f Mar 8 17:43:04 yule 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 Mar 8 17:43:04 yule Mar 8 17:43:04 yule ath_tx_start: Q1: (ds)f706ae20 (lk) (d)37b9ac3c (c0)4124007a (c1)06008078 8000 000db50c Mar 8 17:43:04 yule ath_tx_txqaddbuf: link[1] (f706adc0)=3706ae20 (f706ae20) On 3/8/07, Paulo Roberto Candido dos Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list! I'm having some problems setting a wireless network consisting of a gentoo ap, one gentoo station and one Windows XP station. I've followed the instructions on the madwifi.org and on gentoo specialized forums and wiki. Seems like the wireless part of the network is just fine and every station can connect to the ap, but I can't do more than ping the hosts in the winxp station and the gentoo station connects to the network but can't do nothing... not even ping the ap. Nothing wrong with logs and signal... but it seems that all the network services and protocols (tcp, udp and icmp for the gentoo station) aren't working. The strange thing is that the Windows XP host can ping the ap, however it can't get a dhcp address and even using static IP can't access services on the AP like http and ssh. This machine can ping hosts on the internet but can't access tcp or udp services. Iptraf on the AP reports the connections. The other Gentoo workstation can scan and connect to the network but can't do nothing more. From the AP Linux Machine: /etc/conf.d/wireless: modules_ath0=( iwconfig ) config_ath0=( 169.254.0.1/16 ) mode_ath0=Master essid_ath0=skyshaper channel_ath0=10 iwpriv_ath0=( mode 3 ) dns_domain_skyshaper=local dns_servers_skyshaper=( 169.254.0.1 ) dmesg relevant parts: ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel. ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) ath_rate_sample: 1.2 (0.9.2.1) ath_pci: 0.9.4.5 (0.9.2.1) wifi0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps wifi0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps wifi0: turboG rates: 6Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps wifi0: H/W encryption support: WEP AES AES_CCM TKIP wifi0: mac 7.9 phy 4.5 radio 5.6 wifi0: Use hw queue
[gentoo-user] Kernel Config Manager
Hi guys, Does anyone know of a kernel config manager that manages the kernel configuration settings that I want? For instance, I want this network driver, and that driver, and the other driver. Want this to be managed outside the standard menu config because it will make it easier to switch to a new kernel, such as xen-sources, or vanilla-sources. I can then keep the default settings of that particular kernel, and enable all the *extra* stuff that I need. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mini Gentoo in VMWare
Your slowness could be due to not telling vmware to allocate all memory into physical memory, and not using a full sized disk image. It seems like vmware accesses the blocks directly, when you pre-allocate. And if the image gets fragmented, vmware warns you about it, so that you can ask it to defragment it. But, if you're using a resizable image, then you may see some slowness. I bench marked the disk running gentoo linux on a Dell D820 notebook, in native mode. I copied that same gentoo over to a VM, and ran into in windows on the same D820 Notebook, and got slightly better performance results, by about 2-5 M/sec. I used bonnie++ -c 5 -s 4096 -r 768 -u someone. I haven't tried it on a dynamically re-sizable disk. These results indicate to me that VMware is using direct block access, and bypassing the file system. Either that, or simply keeping it un-fragmented makes a big difference. ! As far as compiling slower, I've found there is a very MINOR difference between a real machine, and a VM. On 11/7/06, Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use a Gentoo VM for a lot of LAMP dev work, and I can tell you it's kind of painful to upgrade packages with all the compiling. VMWare is slower than normal to compile, mostly due to disk I/O. Since each HD is a big-ass file. A few optimizations I might suggest: Partition a dedicated physical hard drive into chunks and use VMWare's raw disk so you have real hardware/hard disks. I'd suggest a very fast SCSI drive for the best performance since you're running several VMs. Also, look into the VMWare server version which uses the raw iron a bit better as it's dedicated to running many VMs. I find that more RAM on VMWare has a point of deminishing returns. I have a VM that I dedicate 512MB of my 2GBs and honestly it feels slower than when I give it 128-256MB only. It may be a WinXP thing that it's not efficiently using the RAM right or something. -Original Message- From: Trenton Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:19 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mini Gentoo in VMWare Yes, VMWare is fit for the task, simply because I would be using it on a windows machine. Unless there is something better for a windows machine? Thanks for the hints. On 11/3/06, Harm Geerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 03 November 2006 06:43, Trenton Adams wrote: Hi Guys, Has anyone here played with minimalizing everything for use in vmware? Basically what I want to do is create a series of VERY tiny VMs that are all independent of each other, which provide one service. For instance, I might put apache on one VM, and tomcat on another, and so on. Obviously, I would want their memory usage to be absolutely minimized, seeing that I would like to run them all on one computer. I would probably provide them 64M-128M of RAM each, for their specific service. Perhaps a little more if really required. Is there really anything that I should worry about? Perhaps I should just DO IT? Nick[1] made a post about minimizing Gentoo a while back. But that topic was mainly about the disk usage. I suppose you would benefit from a system that uses the -Os flag to create small binairies. But do you think vmware is fit for such a task? vmware is a big strain on resources itself. You might want to have a look at xen[2] instead. [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/160899/focus=160903 [2] http://www.xensource.com/xen/xen/index.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mini Gentoo in VMWare
Yes, VMWare is fit for the task, simply because I would be using it on a windows machine. Unless there is something better for a windows machine? Thanks for the hints. On 11/3/06, Harm Geerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 03 November 2006 06:43, Trenton Adams wrote: Hi Guys, Has anyone here played with minimalizing everything for use in vmware? Basically what I want to do is create a series of VERY tiny VMs that are all independent of each other, which provide one service. For instance, I might put apache on one VM, and tomcat on another, and so on. Obviously, I would want their memory usage to be absolutely minimized, seeing that I would like to run them all on one computer. I would probably provide them 64M-128M of RAM each, for their specific service. Perhaps a little more if really required. Is there really anything that I should worry about? Perhaps I should just DO IT? Nick[1] made a post about minimizing Gentoo a while back. But that topic was mainly about the disk usage. I suppose you would benefit from a system that uses the -Os flag to create small binairies. But do you think vmware is fit for such a task? vmware is a big strain on resources itself. You might want to have a look at xen[2] instead. [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/160899/focus=160903 [2] http://www.xensource.com/xen/xen/index.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mini Gentoo in VMWare
Hi Guys, Has anyone here played with minimalizing everything for use in vmware? Basically what I want to do is create a series of VERY tiny VMs that are all independent of each other, which provide one service. For instance, I might put apache on one VM, and tomcat on another, and so on. Obviously, I would want their memory usage to be absolutely minimized, seeing that I would like to run them all on one computer. I would probably provide them 64M-128M of RAM each, for their specific service. Perhaps a little more if really required. Is there really anything that I should worry about? Perhaps I should just DO IT? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: etc-update vs dispatch-conf
On 10/14/06, Steve Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 14 October 2006 06:21, Trenton Adams wrote: I use dispatch-conf all the time. I too have never looked back. I use diff=vimdiff -R %s %s in /etc/dispatch-conf.conf NOT SURE WHAT '-R' IS now though. Perhaps it should not be there. -R tells vim to be read only, so you cannot edit the files. It is probably a sensible option in this case. Oh yes, that brings back memories. I had forgotten that vimdiff passes most arguments to vim. Then I add the following line to my .vimrc, which allows me to press F2 to exit the vimdiff windows in one shot. map F2 Esc:qCREsc:qCR A more general version would be: map F2 Esc:qaCR as :qa quits all buffers, so it could be used to exit from vim with any number of open buffers. When I created it, I was thinking of how to quit both buffers. Never thought of looking for a quit *all*. :) Thanks. Steve -- 2.6.17-gentoo-r8 Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2300 @ 1.66GHz GNU/Linux 12:32:08 up 22 min, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.08, 0.08 It'll be a nice world if they ever get it finished. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling binaries on a different server
The PORTAGE_BINHOST option is quit time consuming on emerges. But, if you're only doing it once in awhile, in batched sets, it should be just fine. The reason it takes so long is that it has to do an FTP listing of the remote host, cache that info, and then finally it'll do the merging. I was doing that quite a bit in times past. But, you have to make sure you are using the same use flags on EVERY host. Also, I did have issues where emerge would refuse to use a binary package, and instead would re-build it. I think it was due to using the --newuse functionality, and/or the -u (update) functionality. On 10/13/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 13 October 2006 15:16, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I was reading the thread on the lightweight gentoo system. This to a degree meshed with what a friend and I have been talking about. Essentially setting up a standard image for all of my gentoo servers, and stage 4ing (is that a word?) that image to the servers. Once they are in production, building updates etc in a dedicated build environment and simply rolling out binaries to the boxes as they are needed. The concept sounds really good, giving me the ability to do (relatively) fast updates with binaries on the production servers, after they have been through testing, with out tying up resouces, and (more importantly) being able to fully test them prior to putting them into production. If anyone has done this type of thing, or has references, links, pointers etc I would REALLY appreciate them. I haven't done any stage4 stuff so no clue about how to do that. I only know that it's possible. But for the rest of it [1] should give you a hint... [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2; chap=3#doc_chap4 -- Bo Andresen Bo: The stage 4 stuff is quite easy and I do that routinely. If you want links or suggestions on how to do it I'll be glad to try to help -- its sped up my life considerably. It was the separate build host etc stuff that I was looking for. That section out of the handbook looks good --I'll start playing with it in a dev environment hopefully this weekend -- thanks for the pointer TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: etc-update vs dispatch-conf
I use dispatch-conf all the time. I too have never looked back. I use diff=vimdiff -R %s %s in /etc/dispatch-conf.conf NOT SURE WHAT '-R' IS now though. Perhaps it should not be there. Then I add the following line to my .vimrc, which allows me to press F2 to exit the vimdiff windows in one shot. map F2 Esc:qCREsc:qCR The old config shows up on the left, and the new config shows up on the right. Press Ctrl-W and the left or right arrow key to switch between window buffers. What I usually do, if there are additions to the new config that I want, is copy them from the right window, paste them in the left window, and save the left window. Then, I hit F2, then 'z' for zap, and my old config has the new settings that it needs. If you don't like vim, then you might not like vimdiff. On 10/13/06, Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I much prefer dispatch-conf. I just find it easier to use. I find etc-update a touch crude in the way it takes input. On 10/13/06, Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maxim wexler wrote: What does the group think? I don't know about the group, but I use etc-update and keep all of /etc in a Subversion working copy. This allows quickly seeing any changes made on updates and emerges, reverting changes if anything breaks, and keeping track of the reasons for specific changes in commit log messages. I also use a tool to store file and directory ownership and ACLs in an SVN property. I believe dispatch-conf doesn't track ownership and permissions. I even thought about using a distributed VCS like git to be able to push changes to a group of machines for e.g. updates, but then again, I don't have enough installations to maintain. Has anybody done something in this direction? -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Erik -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Calendar sharing with MS outlook on gentoo
You could install VMWare. On 10/13/06, bijayant kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi to all, I want to install MS outlook on the gentoo. Can it possible to run MS outlook on gentoo-linux. If yes then how...??? Is any extra plugin required to do the same. My main concern is that i have to provide calendar sharing with MS outlook on linux box to one of my client..Please help me..I have heard about scalix, but i am not sure about it, there is one thing more openXchange also. But i have no idea about both of them. If any one can help me, please do sir. I will be very thankful to you all. Bijayant Kumar Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] eselect could not source blas.eselect
All the directories all the way down the tree have r-x, and the files are world readable. On 10/11/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 October 2006 06:41, Trenton Adams wrote: [SNIP] [22:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED] trenta]# eselect [SNIP] Extra modules: bashcomp Manage contributed bash-completion scripts binutils Manage installed versions of sys-devel/binutils !!! Error: Couldn't source /usr/share/eselect//modules/blas.eselect Call stack: * ec_do_list-modules (eselect:139) * ec_do_help (eselect:86) * main (eselect:193) exiting. [SNIP] Hrm.. Maybe it could be a permissions problem. What does # ls -l /usr/share/eselect/modules show? -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild attempts to emerge old package
I did not know about python-updater. Should I re-install the old version of python again, and then run python-updater? Right now it complains about there not being an old version of python. Gotta run to work for now though. :( On 10/12/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 October 2006 08:30, PaulNM wrote: It looks like an old version of python is still on your system from when there was an ebuild for it. I'd suggest emerge -p --depclean to see if it would remove it. emerge --depclean doesn't clean old slots. It will keep all installed versions of python since at least portage requires it... emerge --prune will remove old slots. It won't notice if the old slots are needed though.. (Which is unlikely if he has run python-updater) ;) Finally if he did have python-2.3.x installed it should show up on `equery list python`. -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] eselect could not source blas.eselect
Ahah, looks like you just found a bug Bo. echo $(ESELECT_CORE_PATH=/usr/share/eselect/libs ; source ${ESELECT_CORE_PATH}/core.bash ; source ${ESELECT_CORE_PATH}/manip.bash ; set -x ; source /usr/share/eselect/modules/blas.eselect) ++ source /usr/share/eselect/modules/blas.eselect +++ inherit config multilib portage +++ local x +++ for x in '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' +++ [[ -e /usr/share/eselect/libs/config.bash ]] +++ source /usr/share/eselect/libs/config.bash +++ for x in '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' +++ [[ -e /usr/share/eselect/libs/multilib.bash ]] +++ source /usr/share/eselect/libs/multilib.bash ES_VALID_MULTILIB_DIRS='lib lib32 lib64' +++ for x in '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' +++ [[ -e /usr/share/eselect/libs/portage.bash ]] +++ source /usr/share/eselect/libs/portage.bash +++ DESCRIPTION='Manage installed BLAS implementations' +++ MAINTAINER='Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]' +++ SVN_DATE='$Date: 2006-04-14 18:18:40 +0200 (Fri, 14 Apr 2006) $' svn_date_to_version '$Date: 2006-04-14 18:18:40 +0200 (Fri, 14 Apr 2006) $' local 's=$Date: 2006-04-14 18:18:40 +0200 (Fri, 14 Apr 2006) $' s='2006-04-14 18:18:40 +0200 (Fri, 14 Apr 2006) $' s=2006-04-14 s=20060414 echo 20060414 +++ VERSION=20060414 +++ BLAS_CONFIG=/var/lib/eselect/blas/blas.config +++ BLAS_IMPLEMENTATIONS='ACML ATLAS threaded-ATLAS MKL72 reference' +++ BLAS_PROFILES='C F77' -bash: /usr/share/eselect/modules/blas.eselect: line 69: syntax error near unexpected token `(' -bash: /usr/share/eselect/modules/blas.eselect: line 69: `package() {' On 10/12/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reordered for readability.. Please don't top post. On Thursday 12 October 2006 16:47, Trenton Adams wrote: [22:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED] trenta]# eselect [SNIP] Extra modules: bashcomp Manage contributed bash-completion scripts binutils Manage installed versions of sys-devel/binutils !!! Error: Couldn't source /usr/share/eselect//modules/blas.eselect Call stack: * ec_do_list-modules (eselect:139) * ec_do_help (eselect:86) * main (eselect:193) exiting. [SNIP] Hrm.. Maybe it could be a permissions problem. What does # ls -l /usr/share/eselect/modules show? All the directories all the way down the tree have r-x, and the files are world readable. What is the output of: # echo $(ESELECT_CORE_PATH=/usr/share/eselect/libs ; source ${ESELECT_CORE_PATH}/core.bash ; source ${ESELECT_CORE_PATH}/manip.bash ; set -x ; source /usr/share/eselect/modules/blas.eselect) -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gentoo mirro rsync policy
Hi Guys, Is there a policy for the syncing of the mirrors, that would prevent inconsistencies? I'm not talking about inconsistencies with the master server(s), as that would be kind of difficult to have atomic syncing between all servers involved. What I'm referring to is inconsistencies in terms of me syncing with a mirror. I can't count how many times I've had a problem, gone on a wild goose hunt, and then ended up syncing again and it works. Could this be due to one of the mirrors doing a sync, while it's own rsync is still accepting connections? If so, then I may get a portage tree that is not properly synced. If each mirror's rsync is not shutdown during syncing, wouldn't it be better if it actually was? I think we'd rather get a connection refused message, and have *emerge* try another mirror, than to have an inconsistent portage state, don't we think? Any thoughts? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] mediawiki package stability
Anyone know the stability of the 1.7.1 package? FYI, I'm running amd64, which probably does not matter. Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem emerging kdebase
I can't right now, as my logs for that don't exist, I forgot to put the 21. Right now I'm trying to revdep-rebuild so.6. We'll see how that goes first. Thanks. On 10/10/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 11 October 2006 07:23, Trenton Adams wrote: Any other ideas? Sure. Post actual error messages that show what your problem is... -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] maildrop linking fails with __gxx_personality_v0
I remember getting this long ago for one of my programs. It occured when I tried to use the wrong compiler, whether it was g++ or gcc, I can't remember. Anyhow, this is happening with the mail-filter/maildrop-2.0.1, which is actually installed already, but won't compile right now. Mental note that I was on gcc 3.4.6 until just the other day, and now I'm at 4.1.1. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. Compiling testmaildiraclt.c Linking libmaildir.la Linking deliverquota Linking maildirkwtest Linking testmaildirfilter Linking maildirkw Linking maildirmake Linking maildiracl Linking maildiraclttest /usr/lib/libfam.a(fam.o): In function `GroupStuff::GroupStuff()': : undefined reference to `operator new[](unsigned int)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(fam.o): In function `GroupStuff::GroupStuff()': : undefined reference to `operator new[](unsigned int)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(fam.o): In function `FAMClose': : undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(fam.o): In function `FAMOpen2': : undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(fam.o): In function `FAMOpen2': : undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(fam.o): In function `FAMOpen2': : undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(fam.o): In function `FAMMonitor(FAMConnection*, char const*, FAMRequest*, void*, int)': : undefined reference to `operator delete[](void*)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(fam.o): In function `FAMMonitor(FAMConnection*, char const*, FAMRequest*, void*, int)': : undefined reference to `operator delete[](void*)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(fam.o): In function `FAMMonitorCollection': : undefined reference to `operator delete[](void*)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(fam.o): In function `FAMMonitorCollection': : undefined reference to `operator delete[](void*)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(fam.o):(.eh_frame+0x12): undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o): In function `__static_initialization_and_destruction_0(int, int)': : undefined reference to `std::ios_base::Init::Init()' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o): In function `Client::storeEndExist(int)': : undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o): In function `Client::storeUserData(int, void*)': : undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o): In function `__tcf_0': : undefined reference to `std::ios_base::Init::~Init()' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o): In function `BTreeint, bool::Node::~Node()': : undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o): In function `BTreeint, bool::underflow(BTreeint, bool::Node*, unsigned int)': : undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o): In function `BTreeint, bool::underflow(BTreeint, bool::Node*, unsigned int)': : undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o): In function `BTreeint, void*::Node::~Node()': : undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o): In function `BTreeint, void*::underflow(BTreeint, void*::Node*, unsigned int)': : undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o):: more undefined references to `operator delete(void*)' follow /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o): In function `BTreeint, bool::insert(BTreeint, bool::Node*, int const, bool const)': : undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o): In function `BTreeint, bool::insert(BTreeint, bool::Node*, int const, bool const)': : undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o): In function `BTreeint, bool::insert(BTreeint, bool::Node*, int const, bool const)': : undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o): In function `BTreeint, void*::insert(BTreeint, void*::Node*, int const, void* const)': : undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o): In function `BTreeint, void*::insert(BTreeint, void*::Node*, int const, void* const)': : undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o):: more undefined references to `operator new(unsigned int)' follow /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o):(.rodata._ZTI5BTreeIibE[typeinfo for BTreeint, bool]+0x0): undefined reference to `vtable for __cxxabiv1::__class_type_info' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o):(.rodata._ZTI5BTreeIiPvE[typeinfo for BTreeint, void*]+0x0): undefined reference to `vtable for __cxxabiv1::__class_type_info' /usr/lib/libfam.a(Client.o):(.eh_frame+0x11): undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [maildirkw] Error 1 make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/maildrop-2.0.1/work/maildrop-2.0.1/maildir' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/maildrop-2.0.1/work/maildrop-2.0.1/maildir' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 !!! ERROR: mail-filter/maildrop-2.0.1 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1546:
[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild attempts to emerge old package
Why does revdep-rebuild try and update packages that do not exist? Is this a bug, or am I missing something? # revdep-rebuild --library libstdc++.so.5 -- -p -v 21 ... Calculating dependencies / emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =dev-lang/python-2.3.5. # equery list python [ Searching for package 'python' in all categories among: ] * installed packages [I--] [ ] dev-lang/python-2.4.3-r4 (2.4) [I--] [ ] dev-python/python-fchksum-1.7.1 (0) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge deps AFTER build
Hi Guys, Is there a way of asking emerge to only merge the packages after all dependencies have been successfully built into tar.bz2 packages? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] eselect could not source blas.eselect
Hi guys, eselect doesn't appear to be working on my one computer (amd64) for some reason. I've re-emerged it already, but to no avail. I run # eselect and get the following... Usage: eselect global options module name module options Global options: --no-color,--no-colourDisable coloured output Built-in modules: help Display a help message list-modules Find and display available modules usage Display a usage message version Display version information Extra modules: bashcomp Manage contributed bash-completion scripts binutils Manage installed versions of sys-devel/binutils !!! Error: Couldn't source /usr/share/eselect//modules/blas.eselect Call stack: * ec_do_list-modules (eselect:139) * ec_do_help (eselect:86) * main (eselect:193) exiting. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] eselect could not source blas.eselect
[22:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED] trenta]# equery check eselect [ Checking app-admin/eselect-1.0.2 ] * 57 out of 57 files good [22:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED] trenta]# eselect Usage: eselect global options module name module options Global options: --no-color,--no-colourDisable coloured output Built-in modules: help Display a help message list-modules Find and display available modules usage Display a usage message version Display version information Extra modules: bashcomp Manage contributed bash-completion scripts binutils Manage installed versions of sys-devel/binutils !!! Error: Couldn't source /usr/share/eselect//modules/blas.eselect Call stack: * ec_do_list-modules (eselect:139) * ec_do_help (eselect:86) * main (eselect:193) exiting. [22:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED] trenta]# equery b blas.eselect [ Searching for file(s) blas.eselect in *... ] app-admin/eselect-1.0.2 (/usr/share/eselect/modules/blas.eselect) [22:42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] trenta]# equery belongs blas.eselect | sed 's/^/=/' | xargs equery check [ Checking app-admin/eselect-1.0.2 ] * 57 out of 57 files good [22:42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] trenta]# On 10/11/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 October 2006 04:56, Trenton Adams wrote: Hi guys, eselect doesn't appear to be working on my one computer (amd64) for some reason. I've re-emerged it already, but to no avail. What is the output of: # equery check eselect # equery belongs blas.eselect # equery belongs blas.eselect | sed 's/^/=/' | xargs equery check -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ipw2100 problems - ieee80211?
You create net.eth0, or whatever, by linking /etc/init.d/net.ethX to /etc/init.d/net.lo The driver will create the actual kernel device name of eth0, ath0, or whatever, and then your link will make it work. On 10/11/06, Lord Sauron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 11 October 2006 21:11, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Thursday 12 October 2006 06:00, Lord Sauron wrote: [SNIP] I isolated my problem to this: emerge ipw2100 ties in ieee80211, and that fails to compile because it says that the current kernel cannot have the option IEEE80211 in either module or enabled. It needs it disabled. I tried to use menuconfig and disable it, however, the only way I can do that is by literally disabling ALL networking - drivers and all. Kernel is kernel 2.6.17-gentoo-r8. [SNIP] If anyone knows a better/easier way, please help! [SNIP] As of kernel 2.6.17 ipw2100 has been included in the kernel. Hence you shouldn't install either of net-wireless/ieee80211 or net-wireless/ipw2100. You still need to have net-wireless/ipw2100-firmware emerged though. I believe these are the kernel options you need (it works for me): $ zgrep IPW2100\\\|IEEE80211 /proc/config.gz CONFIG_IEEE80211=m # CONFIG_IEEE80211_DEBUG is not set CONFIG_IEEE80211_CRYPT_WEP=m CONFIG_IEEE80211_CRYPT_CCMP=m CONFIG_IEEE80211_CRYPT_TKIP=m # CONFIG_IEEE80211_SOFTMAC is not set CONFIG_IPW2100=m # CONFIG_IPW2100_MONITOR is not set # CONFIG_IPW2100_DEBUG is not set The curious thing is that the firmware is installed. I'm trying those exact configuration settings now. I hope that works, otherwise I'm really in for quite a mess! Is it at all possible that the driver is installed and working, and that I don't have whatever it takes to activate and use it? For my wired ethernet card, there's a thing called net.eth0 and all that rot. When I get the wireless driver working, how will I create net.wlan0 or net.eth1 or whatever it is? I've not no experience there, and I've been searching rather diligently for a how-to or instruction set to help me with that. I find it hard to think that something like that will generate itself ex nihlo, to say the least : ) -- http://lordsauronthegreat.googlepages.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem emerging kdebase
Did this ever get resolved? I've been having the same problems with kdemultimedia-arts. On 7/8/06, David Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 06 July 2006 19:43, Richard Fish wrote: On 7/6/06, David Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld : warning: libstdc++.so.5, needed by /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so, may conflict with libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld : warning: libstdc++.so.5, needed by /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so, may conflict with libstdc++.so.6 Ok, you *really* need to run: revdep-rebuild --library=libstdc++.so.5 Revdep-rebuild was not magic, but it helped. It tried to remerge a whole bunch of packages, and numerous ones failed due to no longer being available. I edited the emerge statement to remove things I don't really use (a lot of kde 3.4 packages), but I still get the same failure on kdebase-3.5. It also said: Warning: Failed to resolve package order. Will merge in random order! However, the last thing in the emerge library was a qt library. I emerged that first, and it seems to have fixed the kdebase problem. Thanks for all the help. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: java-config --set-user-classpath
ahhh, okay, thanks. On 10/3/06, Catalin Trifu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eselect java-vm Catalin Trenton Adams wrote: Hi Guys, I'm just a little curious why --set-user-classpath and --set-system-classpath are being done away with? Is there a replacement facility for this functionality? Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] java-config --set-user-classpath
Hi Guys, I'm just a little curious why --set-user-classpath and --set-system-classpath are being done away with? Is there a replacement facility for this functionality? Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gallery file integrity problem
I gett the following warning on step 2 of the www-apps/gallery-2.0.4 installation. gallery file integrity Warning - Modified files (1) modules/ffmpeg/classes/FfmpegToolkit.class Any ideas? Has this php script been hacked or what? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gallery file integrity problem
Okay, thanks. On 9/4/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:55:11 -0600, Trenton Adams wrote: I gett the following warning on step 2 of the www-apps/gallery-2.0.4 installation. gallery file integrity Warning - Modified files (1) modules/ffmpeg/classes/FfmpegToolkit.class Any ideas? Has this php script been hacked or what? It's been a while since I ran such an old version of Gallery, but I think there was a mention in the emerge output about this. The file is patched during installation so the wanting it to be expected and nothing to worry about. This doesn't happen now with the Gallery 2.1 ebuilds. -- Neil Bothwick Most software is about as user-friendly as a cornered rat! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dispatch-conf auto merging does not work
Sorry I didn't get back earlier. Umm, all config files really. There are very few that this does not happen with. On 8/24/06, Robert Welz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trenton Adams wrote: Hi guys, Has anyone else noticed that dispatch-conf does not auto-merge properly all the time? I get files in /etc/init.d/* for instance that do not auto-merge. There's no way I modified any of the files in there. Which files, please? I haven't noticed that yet, but one never knows;) Robert -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] dispatch-conf auto merging does not work
Hi guys, Has anyone else noticed that dispatch-conf does not auto-merge properly all the time? I get files in /etc/init.d/* for instance that do not auto-merge. There's no way I modified any of the files in there. I checked bugzilla and haven't seen this reported before. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] livecd and install cd improper ACPI?
Thanks Richard. Almost but not quite. I loaded the fan module, which did nothing, seeing the fan was already running. I then searched through /lib/modules/2.6.* for the fan module so I could find the others. Then loaded the others. Once I loaded the *thermal* module, the fan slowed down. It was stuck on one speed, which was apparently not fast enough for what I was doing. So, either a combination of the fan and thermal modules did something, or just the thermal module. Thanks again. On 7/30/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/29/06, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a notebook that I use with gentoo. I'm trying to create a tar.gz backup of the entire thing. So, I boot up with 2005.x or 2006.0 livecd, or install cd. Both of them allow the system to over heat, and it shuts down. This never used to happen. I believe it worked fine with 2004.x. Have some ACPI drivers been disabled since 2004? No, but they may have been modularized. Probably you just need to modprobe fan. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Portage Storage using SVN
Hi guys, I proposed this awhile back, and got shot down. At the time, the arguments for using SVN for portage storage were pretty shallow, and someone was able to easily shoot them down. I believe I have come up with better reasoning for using SVN. Someone may still shoot them down, but hey, it's worth a try. PROBLEM 1 Let's say openldap had a problem. So, we decide to mask the latest version of openldap, in an effort to roll back to the version that was working. Well, we find out that openldap still does not work. So, we finally determine that it is library W. So, now we mask library W, in an attempt to roll back to the version that was working. Oh no, now we find out that library W is used by 20 other packages, that require the latest version of library W in order to work. So, now we have to mask library W, and 20 packages in order to get our openldap system functional, assuming you cared about the 20 other broken packages, which may break other packages, which may break yet other packages. Wouldn't it be nice to just go emerge --revert-portage, which goes back to the last exported copy of the portage, that you had from subversion? Boy, would that ever be convenient. It would be simple enough to store a local history of portage tags that the user was using in the past. PROBLEM 2 Have you ever synced the portage, only to find out there's a broken package simply because you synced in the middle of a mirror being updated? Well, subversion operations are entirely atomic, meaning no need to worry about such silly things. Also, copies (tags) could be created for every single day, and special ones for milestones. PROBLEM 3 Don't sync more than once a day, or you may be temporarily banned? Well, with SVN being tagged only once a day, there would be no need to worry about this, seeing that POTENTIAL ISSUES Now, I'm not entirely sure of the performance implications of subversion for this purpose. So, that would definitely have to either be tested, or someone would have to talk with the subversion folks to know if it would be a problem for thousands of users to access subversion in readonly mode. It would certainly be annoying for a developer to go svn commit, and have to wait for half an hour because everyone else is updating their local copies. But, that could be solved by mirrors only getting updated once every day, at 12 midnight. How does one get SVN copied over to mirrors in an atomic way, or does the SVN location just get shut down during the mirror update? Any thoughts? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage Storage using SVN
On 7/23/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 02:42:43 -0600, Trenton Adams wrote: Let's say openldap had a problem. So, we decide to mask the latest version of openldap, in an effort to roll back to the version that was working. Well, we find out that openldap still does not work. So, we finally determine that it is library W. So, now we mask library W, in an attempt to roll back to the version that was working. Oh no, now we find out that library W is used by 20 other packages, that require the latest version of library W in order to work. So, now we have to mask library W, and 20 packages in order to get our openldap system functional, assuming you cared about the 20 other broken packages, which may break other packages, which may break yet other packages. Wouldn't it be nice to just go emerge --revert-portage, which goes back to the last exported copy of the portage, that you had from subversion? Boy, would that ever be convenient. It would be simple enough to store a local history of portage tags that the user was using in the past. Wouldn't that revert the whole of portage, not just the parts affecting ldap, W and the rest? All of a sudden emerge world wants to downgrade previously upgraded programs, some of which may have been updated for security reasons. This means the user has to go through the Changelogs, ebuild and package.mask to find out why they are being downgraded and whether to apply the downgrade. this would be far more work that package masking a few updates dependent on W, which could probably be scripted. Yes, it would revert the whole portage, and that would be desired, so as to be up quickly. It could potentially take hours to figure out which packages are being affected by a broken updated package. But, perhaps it would be better to write a utility that will downgrade a package, as well as all dependencies. Or does this already happen when you downgrade? -- Neil Bothwick BASIC: Bill's Attempt to Seize Industry Control -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage Storage using SVN
On 7/23/06, Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 02:42:43 -0600 Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I proposed this awhile back, and got shot down. At the time, the arguments for using SVN for portage storage were pretty shallow, and someone was able to easily shoot them down. I believe I have come up with better reasoning for using SVN. Someone may still shoot them down, but hey, it's worth a try. #1: You're aware that there's a CVS for portage, aren't you? I'm still not quite sure if you are suggesting using SVN for the portage mirrors and if you are suggesting that users also have a full SVN history on the clients, too? No, not a full history, just a tag history. PROBLEM 1 [...] PROBLEM 2 [...] PROBLEM 3 [...] Well, are those really problems at all? I mean, isn't it easy to overcome them? Is it worth dedicating time and work into that svn thing? I'm not sure, is it? Is there scripts already out there to overcome the problems suggested? If there are, I would sure appreciate knowing about them. :) It could be a lack of my understanding how the portage downgrade process works. But if you downgrade a package, will it downgrade all the packages depending on that version as well? POTENTIAL ISSUES Now, I'm not entirely sure of the performance implications of subversion for this purpose. So, that would definitely have to either be tested, or someone would have to talk with the subversion folks to know if it would be a problem for thousands of users to access subversion in readonly mode. Well, of course! There's definately a reason to use rsync. It would certainly be annoying for a developer to go svn commit, and have to wait for half an hour because everyone else is updating their local copies. But, that could be solved by mirrors only getting updated once every day, at 12 midnight. Oh, yeah. Your midnight, my midnight? It would definately be annoying to make a small glitch and have to wait 24hrs until the fix for that gets promoted. The problem you mentioned that at some points there are slightly errorneous ebuilds in portage or minor inconsistencies can only be fixed by promoting updates fast. That's true, and I suppose that's not quite as good as what exists right now. But does gentoo really have less than 24 hour bug fix turn arounds? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re:
Perhaps [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be removed from the list? I keep getting the following messages after sending something to the list... On 7/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: General SMTP/ESMTP error. Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:00:27 +0300 (EEST) Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: 554 mail server permanently rejected message (#5.3.0) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] xorg v7.0 trying to load modules that I'm not
# grep -e EE -e WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (WW) Option XkbOptions requires an string value (WW) Warning, couldn't open module v4l (EE) Failed to load module v4l (module does not exist, 0) (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (WW) LoadModule: given non-canonical module name /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (EE) Unable to open /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (EE) Failed to load module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (open failed, 2) (WW) Warning, couldn't open module radeon (EE) Failed to load module radeon (module does not exist, 0) (WW) Warning, couldn't open module Keyboard (EE) Failed to load module Keyboard (module does not exist, 0) (WW) Warning, couldn't open module synaptics (EE) Failed to load module synaptics (module does not exist, 0) (EE) No drivers available. I do not have radeon, or synaptics specified in my xorg.conf. Any reason why it might try and load these instead of nvidia drivers? I have nvidia specified. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg v7.0 trying to load modules that I'm not
Thank you, it's working now. Why would it be using an xorg.conf found in /root/? I deleted that one, and then it found it in /etc/X11/ On 7/17/06, Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 17 July 2006 19:02, Trenton Adams wrote: I do not have radeon, or synaptics specified in my xorg.conf. Any reason why it might try and load these instead of nvidia drivers? I have nvidia specified. Make sure xorg is actually reading the config file you think it's using. Look for a line like (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf in xorg log and check that the config file it's using is the one you want. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] histappend shell option
On 7/5/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/5/06, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, Where would I suggest a standard shell option to be incorporated into /etc/bash/bashrc? bugs.gentoo.org would be the appropriate place. File it as an enhacement request. I can't stand it when I logout of multiple shells, and get only the history of the last one. Especially on root. So, I use the histappend shell option. shopt -s histappend Wouldn't it be good to incorporate this into the standard bash shell? I don't see any downside to this, although it seems like a fairly trivial thing for the user who wants this to add it to their .bashrc files. There might be some desire to keep the configuration as close to the $UPSTREAM defaults as possible. Yes, it is trivial. But yeah, that was my whole point, is to try and keep close to the UPSTREAM, as you say. And, it kind of should be a standard option, as it is on many other distros. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] example tomcat app package
Hi guys, What should I use as a base example package for a java application running under tomcat? Also, should it be a webapp to be used with webapp-config? Any information on this would be appreciated. Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: example tomcat app package
I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm looking for an ebuild file for a tomcat application. On 7/5/06, Edwin Kapauni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trenton Adams wrote: Hi guys, What should I use as a base example package for a java application running under tomcat? Also, should it be a webapp to be used with [...] As the only thing I am running under Tomcat is Cocoon-2.1.9 I would much appreciate Cocoon as a sample application too. :-) But, I know: It is too big and too complicated for a simple sample. :-( IMHO the most simple sample for Tomcat is the Administration Web Application [1] which is also quite useful for setting up Cocoon and other applications. [1]http://apache.dns4.com/tomcat/tomcat-5/v5.5.17/bin/apache-tomcat-5.5.17-admin.tar.gz -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Protecting my server against an individual
I would move ssh to a very high port number of your choice. Most ssh port scanners do not bother checking anything other than port 22, as it is too time consuming. I have not had any weird hits on my ssh port in years. It was hammered daily, even with attempted logins and such, with it running on port 22. Now, pretty much nothing. Why not use something like 65350 or some random high port like that? And yes, you probably shouldn't be asking these questions if you have an important linux computer on the internet. Because if it is important, you should know what you are doing before you put it on the internet. If on the other hand, you're just getting to know linux, and the computer is not all that important, then you should be asking these questions. On 7/5/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Tandy wrote: you're running a firewall of some kind (and you'd be crazy not to for any publically accessible box), Actually, I'd disagree. If only the necessary publicly accessible services are running on a box, what good should a firewal (I suppose you mean packet filter, like iptables) do? The only useful measure I can think about, is to do rate limiting. But what else? Alexander Skwar -- The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] histappend shell option
Hi guys, Where would I suggest a standard shell option to be incorporated into /etc/bash/bashrc? I can't stand it when I logout of multiple shells, and get only the history of the last one. Especially on root. So, I use the histappend shell option. shopt -s histappend Wouldn't it be good to incorporate this into the standard bash shell? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] automatic notification of changes in certain packages
Oh man, that would be s sweet. I want that too. :-P On 7/5/06, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, i'd like to get automatic notification if something in an certain package changes, ie. package foo has been masked, unmasked, new version, ... Is there any service for that yet ? cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service phone: +49 36207 519931 www: http://www.metux.de/ fax: +49 36207 519932 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cellphone: +49 174 7066481 - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel cannot find files
thanks On 6/20/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 21 June 2006 01:56, Trenton Adams wrote: Nope, those mirrors do not change anything. I tried to use default mirrors, and it only tried three mirrors. Don't know why it's not working. Very odd. They must have moved it on the mirrors. Just download it manually at put it in $DISTDIR. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137241 -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] genkernel cannot find files
Anyone have an idea why this is happening? Did someone make a mistake on the genkernel package? Emerging (1 of 12) sys-kernel/genkernel-3.3.11d to / Downloading http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 --00:10:34-- http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2' Resolving gentoo.osuosl.org... 64.50.238.52, 64.50.236.52 Connecting to gentoo.osuosl.org|64.50.238.52|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 00:10:35 ERROR 404: Not Found. Downloading http://adelie.polymtl.ca/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 --00:10:35-- http://adelie.polymtl.ca/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2' Resolving adelie.polymtl.ca... 132.207.4.160 Connecting to adelie.polymtl.ca|132.207.4.160|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 00:10:35 ERROR 404: Not Found. Downloading http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/klibc/Testing/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 --00:10:35-- http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/klibc/Testing/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2' Resolving www.kernel.org... 204.152.191.37, 204.152.191.5 Connecting to www.kernel.org|204.152.191.37|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 00:10:35 ERROR 404: Not Found. !!! Couldn't download klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2. Aborting. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel cannot find files
Nope, those mirrors do not change anything. I tried to use default mirrors, and it only tried three mirrors. Don't know why it's not working. Very odd. On 6/20/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trenton Adams wrote: Anyone have an idea why this is happening? Did someone make a mistake on the genkernel package? Emerging (1 of 12) sys-kernel/genkernel-3.3.11d to / Downloading http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 --00:10:34-- http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2' Resolving gentoo.osuosl.org... 64.50.238.52, 64.50.236.52 Connecting to gentoo.osuosl.org|64.50.238.52|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 00:10:35 ERROR 404: Not Found. Downloading http://adelie.polymtl.ca/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 --00:10:35-- http://adelie.polymtl.ca/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2' Resolving adelie.polymtl.ca... 132.207.4.160 Connecting to adelie.polymtl.ca|132.207.4.160|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 00:10:35 ERROR 404: Not Found. Downloading http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/klibc/Testing/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 --00:10:35-- http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/klibc/Testing/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2' Resolving www.kernel.org... 204.152.191.37, 204.152.191.5 Connecting to www.kernel.org|204.152.191.37|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 00:10:35 ERROR 404: Not Found. !!! Couldn't download klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2. Aborting. May want to edit make.conf with some different servers. Those may not have the newer packages yet. Some take a little longer than others. I have ran into the same thing before though. Here is mine if you want to try. GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.osuosl.org/ http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/ http://gentoo.seren.com/gentoo http://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/ http://cudlug.cudenver.edu/gentoo/ http://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/ http://gentoo.mirrors.tds.net/gentoo http://gentoo.netnitco.net May help. We hope. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel cannot find files
I synced my portage, but the problem is still occuring. On 6/20/06, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, those mirrors do not change anything. I tried to use default mirrors, and it only tried three mirrors. Don't know why it's not working. Very odd. On 6/20/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trenton Adams wrote: Anyone have an idea why this is happening? Did someone make a mistake on the genkernel package? Emerging (1 of 12) sys-kernel/genkernel-3.3.11d to / Downloading http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 --00:10:34-- http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2' Resolving gentoo.osuosl.org... 64.50.238.52, 64.50.236.52 Connecting to gentoo.osuosl.org|64.50.238.52|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 00:10:35 ERROR 404: Not Found. Downloading http://adelie.polymtl.ca/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 --00:10:35-- http://adelie.polymtl.ca/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2' Resolving adelie.polymtl.ca... 132.207.4.160 Connecting to adelie.polymtl.ca|132.207.4.160|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 00:10:35 ERROR 404: Not Found. Downloading http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/klibc/Testing/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 --00:10:35-- http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/klibc/Testing/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2' Resolving www.kernel.org... 204.152.191.37, 204.152.191.5 Connecting to www.kernel.org|204.152.191.37|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 00:10:35 ERROR 404: Not Found. !!! Couldn't download klibc-1.2.1.tar.bz2. Aborting. May want to edit make.conf with some different servers. Those may not have the newer packages yet. Some take a little longer than others. I have ran into the same thing before though. Here is mine if you want to try. GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.osuosl.org/ http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/ http://gentoo.seren.com/gentoo http://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/ http://cudlug.cudenver.edu/gentoo/ http://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/ http://gentoo.mirrors.tds.net/gentoo http://gentoo.netnitco.net May help. We hope. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] portage and rsync vs svn
Hi guys, I'm just curious about something. I've noticed many people report problems with their repository syncing simply because someone was in the middle of committing to the repository. Couldn't this be resolved by replacing the syncing mechanism with *svn* as opposed to rsync? After all, it does have atomic transactions, and you cannot get a partially updated repository when you use it. If this was to be done, I would suggest making tags every day, such as -MM-DD. Then any other tags could also be made on milestones such as 2006.0 for that release. One other benefit of this mechanism, that I can think of, would be that I could easily roll back to my last sync date or release, if some of the updated ebuilds caused me problems. Any thoughts? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage and rsync vs svn
Thanks for the reply. Interspersed comments below... On 6/19/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 19 June 2006 09:58, Trenton Adams wrote: Hi guys, I'm just curious about something. I've noticed many people report problems with their repository syncing simply because someone was in the middle of committing to the repository. Couldn't this be resolved by replacing the syncing mechanism with *svn* as opposed to rsync? After all, it does have atomic transactions, and you cannot get a partially updated repository when you use it. Perhaps it could. But I don't think that problem is important enough to make Portage usage depend on Subversion. Well, it wouldn't have to *depend* on subversion. The rsync could still be used. All that would need to happen is that the location that people would be able to rsync with could be checked out regularly. Then the rsync could have an exclude for the .svn directories, or whatever administrative directories there would be, depending on the VCS you use. [...] One other benefit of this mechanism, that I can think of, would be that I could easily roll back to my last sync date or release, if some of the updated ebuilds caused me problems. That really should not be necessary. What you should of course do is file a bug so the problems can be fixed for everyone. Well, one problem I had was not actually *really* bug. It was a requirement that I did not fulfill, but was unable to figure it out instantly. So, rolling back would have been very useful at that time. It would just add another level of safety. Any thoughts? Currently the developers are still using CVS for the tree. Migrating to another VCS does have a high priority but they have not even chosen which VCS to migrate to. There is a Google Summer of Code project which is supposed to test the different options to give a good basis for making a decision. This, however, affects the Gentoo developers only. -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage and rsync vs svn
On 6/19/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 19 June 2006 10:58, Trenton Adams wrote: One other benefit of this mechanism, that I can think of, would be that I could easily roll back to my last sync date or release, if some of the updated ebuilds caused me problems. That really should not be necessary. What you should of course do is file a bug so the problems can be fixed for everyone. Well, one problem I had was not actually *really* bug. It was a requirement that I did not fulfill, but was unable to figure it out instantly. So, rolling back would have been very useful at that time. It would just add another level of safety. If an ebuild is removed from the tree while you still need it then chances are that others need it too. Then it is indeed a bug. If you need an ebuild that has been removed from the tree it is available from the cvs [1]. As mentioned in my previous mail cvs is going to be replaced by a superior VCS hopefully within this year. Sorry, you misunderstood what I was saying because I wasn't clear enough. I meant if I missed a required step, not missed a dependency. For example, with openldap, you're supposed to slapcat before upgrading, and slapadd after upgrading, or you could have database problems. I did not know this. So when I went from 2.2-2.3, I had problems. But, I didn't have time to get it working, as I needed it up and running NOW. So, I reverted to the old package by masking the new one, and then went to find out why it occurred after the fact. This is one simple example of potential problems. But something on a wider scale could occur. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xine compile failed
The suggestion was to upgrade to gcc 3.4. That's what the bug report says. On 6/16/06, Richard Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ... I've got exactly the same problem with after syncing. I've tried resyncing a few times. Any help would be great. Thanks, Richard. My output is: === cc1: error: unrecognized option `-fvisibility=hidden' make[3]: *** [xineplug_ao_out_none_la-audio_none_out.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs/src/audio_out' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs' make: *** [all] Error 2 !!! ERROR: media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1539: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 939: Called src_compile xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9.ebuild, line 235: Called die == emerge --info output == Portage 2.1 (default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-3.3.6, glibc-2.3.6-r3, 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 i686) = System uname: 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70GHz Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14 distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632) [disabled] dev-lang/python: 2.3.5-r2, 2.4.2 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5 dev-util/ccache: [Not Present] dev-util/confcache: [Not Present] sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r7 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r2 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.13-r2 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/lib/mozilla/defaults/pref /usr/share/config CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo CXXFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.osuosl.org/ http://adelie.polymtl.ca/ ftp://cs.ubishops.ca/pub/gentoo ftp://gentoo.risq.qc.ca/ http://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/ http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/gentoo/ http://gentoo.blueyonder.co.uk ftp://mirrors.blueyonder.co.uk/mirrors/gentoo http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/ ftp://public.planetmirror.com/pub/gentoo/ ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Gentoo http://mirror.isp.net.au/pub/gentoo/ ftp://mirror.isp.net.au/pub/gentoo/ http://mirror.gentoo.gr.jp http://gentoo.gg3.net/ http://gentoo.channelx.biz/ ftp://mirror.averse.net/pub/gentoo http://mirror.averse.net/pub/gentoo/; MAKEOPTS=-j2 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude='/distfiles' --exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages' PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=X a52 aac aalib alsa apache2 apm arts audiofile avi bash-completion berkdb bitmap-fonts bonobo bzip2 cdparanoia cdr cli crypt cups dbm div4linux dri dv dvb dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode esd examples exif fbcon fdftk ffmpeg flash foomaticdb fortran ftp gb gd gdbm gif gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 gtkhtml hal howl ieee1394 imlib ipv6 isdnlog jack joystick jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad matrox mikmod mime ming motif mozilla mp3 mpeg msn mysql mysqli nas ncurses nls nocd nptl ogg oggvorbis openal opengl osc oss pam pcre pdflib perl png portaudio ppds pppd python qt quicktime readline reflection samba sdl session slp sox speex spell spl szip tcpd tetex tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev usb v4l vcd videos vorbis win32codecs x86 xine xinerama xml xmms xorg xv xvid yahoo zlib elibc_glibc kernel_linux userland_GNU Unset: CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OpenLDAP error after upgrade
Hi guys, After upgrading from 2.2.28-r3 to 2.3.24-r1, I noticed that there's a problem in my LDAP server the prevents it from working at all. As a result, I had to downgrade back to 2.2. If I do an *ldapsearch* command, I get the following... Internal (implementation specific) error (80) Additional information: internal error The logs say the following. Is there a way of upgrading the LDAP DB to be functional after the upgrade? Should I downgrade, slapcat, and upgrade again? tail -18 /var/log/syslog Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 fd=13 ACCEPT from IP=127.0.0.1:60261 (IP=0.0.0.0:389) Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=0 BIND dn= method=128 Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=0 RESULT tag=97 err=0 text= Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=1 SRCH base=dc=adamsbros,dc=org scope=2 deref=0 filter=(labeledURI=*) Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=1 SRCH attr=labeledURI Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: = entry_decode: slap_str2undef_ad(a-9b67-bde9526b77f4): AttributeDescription contains inappropriate characters Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=1 SEARCH RESULT tag=101 err=80 nentries=0 text=internal error Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=2 UNBIND Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 fd=13 closed Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 fd=13 ACCEPT from IP=127.0.0.1:50707 (IP=0.0.0.0:389) Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=0 BIND dn= method=128 Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=0 RESULT tag=97 err=0 text= Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=1 SRCH base=dc=adamsbros,dc=org scope=2 deref=0 filter=(labeledURI=*) Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=1 SRCH attr=labeledURI Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: = entry_decode: slap_str2undef_ad(a-9b67-bde9526b77f4): AttributeDescription contains inappropriate characters Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=1 SEARCH RESULT tag=101 err=80 nentries=0 text=internal error Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=2 UNBIND Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 fd=13 closed -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: OpenLDAP error after upgrade
I found something interesting about the merge of 2.3. The following text is not true. It says there is no data, but there is. Perhaps this is a bug? * * Scanning datadir(s) from slapd.conf and * the default installdir for Versiontags * (/var/lib/openldap-data may appear twice) * * - Checking /var/lib/openldap-data... *Found Versiontag in /var/lib/openldap-data *Versiontag doesn't match current major release! *No real problem, seems there's no database. * * - Checking /var/lib/openldap-data... *Found Versiontag in /var/lib/openldap-data *Versiontag doesn't match current major release! *No real problem, seems there's no database. * * * All datadirs are fine, proceeding with merge now... * On 6/16/06, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, After upgrading from 2.2.28-r3 to 2.3.24-r1, I noticed that there's a problem in my LDAP server the prevents it from working at all. As a result, I had to downgrade back to 2.2. If I do an *ldapsearch* command, I get the following... Internal (implementation specific) error (80) Additional information: internal error The logs say the following. Is there a way of upgrading the LDAP DB to be functional after the upgrade? Should I downgrade, slapcat, and upgrade again? tail -18 /var/log/syslog Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 fd=13 ACCEPT from IP=127.0.0.1:60261 (IP=0.0.0.0:389) Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=0 BIND dn= method=128 Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=0 RESULT tag=97 err=0 text= Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=1 SRCH base=dc=adamsbros,dc=org scope=2 deref=0 filter=(labeledURI=*) Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=1 SRCH attr=labeledURI Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: = entry_decode: slap_str2undef_ad(a-9b67-bde9526b77f4): AttributeDescription contains inappropriate characters Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=1 SEARCH RESULT tag=101 err=80 nentries=0 text=internal error Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 op=2 UNBIND Jun 14 23:40:23 abda slapd[19612]: conn=1 fd=13 closed Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 fd=13 ACCEPT from IP=127.0.0.1:50707 (IP=0.0.0.0:389) Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=0 BIND dn= method=128 Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=0 RESULT tag=97 err=0 text= Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=1 SRCH base=dc=adamsbros,dc=org scope=2 deref=0 filter=(labeledURI=*) Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=1 SRCH attr=labeledURI Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: = entry_decode: slap_str2undef_ad(a-9b67-bde9526b77f4): AttributeDescription contains inappropriate characters Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=1 SEARCH RESULT tag=101 err=80 nentries=0 text=internal error Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 op=2 UNBIND Jun 15 19:15:28 abda slapd[19612]: conn=2 fd=13 closed -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] xine compile failed
Hi guys, I just wanted to check here first before I file a bug report. I synced my portage yesterday and the day before, and keep getting a compile failure on xine. I thought perhaps the portage was in an inconsistant state, so re-synced a few times. But, it kept on failing so I had to remove it to get my system to work. e_out.o cc1: error: unrecognized option `-fvisibility=hidden' cc1: error: unrecognized option `-fvisibility=hidden' make[3]: *** [xineplug_ao_out_none_la-audio_none_out.lo] Error 1 make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs make[3]: *** [xineplug_ao_out_file_la-audio_file_out.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs/src/audio_out' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9/work/xine-lib-1.1.2cvs' make: *** [all] Error 2 !!! ERROR: media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1539: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 939: Called src_compile xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9.ebuild, line 235: Called die !!! emake failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xine compile failed
Portage 2.1 (default-linux/x86/2005.1, gcc-3.3.6, glibc-2.3.6-r3, 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 i686) = System uname: 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+ Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14 distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632) [disabled] dev-lang/python: 2.3.5, 2.4.2 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5 dev-util/ccache: [Not Present] dev-util/confcache: [Not Present] sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r7 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r2 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.13-r2 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -mmmx CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -mmmx DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.osuosl.org/ http://adelie.polymtl.ca/; MAKEOPTS=-j2 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude='/distfiles' --exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages' PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=x86 X a52 alsa apache2 apm arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts cgi cli crypt cups divx4linux dri dv dvdread eds emboss encode fame foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib ipv6 isdnlog java jpeg kde ldap libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx motif mp3 mpeg mppe-mppc ncurses nls ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pam pcre pdflib perl php png postgres pppd python qt quicktime readline reflection sdl session spell spl ssl subtitles tcpd threads truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts vhosts vorbis winbind xinerama xml xml2 xmms xorg xv xvid zlib elibc_glibc kernel_linux userland_GNU Unset: CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS On 6/15/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/15/06, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I just wanted to check here first before I file a bug report. I synced my portage yesterday and the day before, and keep getting a compile failure on xine. I thought perhaps the portage was in an inconsistant state, so re-synced a few times. But, it kept on failing so I had to remove it to get my system to work. e_out.o cc1: error: unrecognized option `-fvisibility=hidden' cc1: error: unrecognized option `-fvisibility=hidden' Please post the output of emerge --info. I think -fvisibility is a gcc-4 option, so we need to see what your CFLAGS and gcc version are. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xine compile failed
Was it already decided that 3.4 was the defacto, before this bug was found, or did someone make a mistake on the package too early? Just curious. :) On 6/15/06, leszek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le jeudi 15 juin 2006 à 14:53 -0600, Trenton Adams a écrit : Portage 2.1 (default-linux/x86/2005.1, gcc-3.3.6, glibc-2.3.6-r3, 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 i686) you need to upgrade your gcc to 3.4 more info: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136542 -Leszek -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] php-5 being forced to install?
Thank you Maxim. That was the problem. The funny thing is that swig does not seem to require php5, but it supports the php use flag. On 5/15/06, Maxim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It says... [ebuild NS ] dev-lang/php-5.1.2 [ebuild R ] dev-lang/swig-1.3.21 I don't understand why it's trying to do this, as I have not asked for php 5 to be installed. And I'm also worried about it breaking existing PHP applications. Any ideas of where I should start? I'm not sure why php-5 is being installed, but it's not too likely that PHP5 will break your PHP applications unless they rely on a few things that changed, such as re-setting $this. # USE = -php emerge -av swig I think it'll work. -- Max Jazz -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] php-5 being forced to install?
Hi guys, I'm having weird symptoms on my gentoo 2005.x system. The system is trying to install php-5. It says... [ebuild NS ] dev-lang/php-5.1.2 [ebuild R ] dev-lang/swig-1.3.21 I don't understand why it's trying to do this, as I have not asked for php 5 to be installed. And I'm also worried about it breaking existing PHP applications. Any ideas of where I should start? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: no shell permission denied?
Oh, by the way, I'm leaving for about 2-3 days, so I'll be replying back then. On 3/20/06, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I just re-installed my system because all of a sudden I started getting the following... [15:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /] # su - trenta Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permission denied In addition, I am also unable to login from the console, or X. I get no shell: Permission Denied I'm starting to wonder if I'm getting a trojan somehow, because I'm getting this on two gentoo boxes. The last time this happened, it was shortly after loading pl2303, usbserial, or minicom. I know this *NOW* because I just finished re-installing my system, and decided that I would try the /dev/ttyUSB0 again with minicom, as I got some electronic stuff to play with recently, which requires RS232 com ports. But, this is only the case on one system, not both. Now I'm a little ticked off because it took me awhile to get my system up and running, given all the packages I needed to install. Keep in mind that I restored my home directory and such, so I know it's not anything in my profile that could cause this. Also, all services that try and startup with anything other than root get this as well. Any ideas on what the heck is going on with my gentoo systems? I don't want to reinstall yet again, only to find I'm having the same problem. I'm thinking there may be a bug in the gentoo portage somewhere that is causing this, because I'm positive that I haven't changed any permissions on any files. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] no shell permission denied?
Hi everyone, I just re-installed my system because all of a sudden I started getting the following... [15:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /] # su - trenta Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permission denied In addition, I am also unable to login from the console, or X. I get no shell: Permission Denied I'm starting to wonder if I'm getting a trojan somehow, because I'm getting this on two gentoo boxes. The last time this happened, it was shortly after loading pl2303, usbserial, or minicom. I know this *NOW* because I just finished re-installing my system, and decided that I would try the /dev/ttyUSB0 again with minicom, as I got some electronic stuff to play with recently, which requires RS232 com ports. But, this is only the case on one system, not both. Now I'm a little ticked off because it took me awhile to get my system up and running, given all the packages I needed to install. Keep in mind that I restored my home directory and such, so I know it's not anything in my profile that could cause this. Also, all services that try and startup with anything other than root get this as well. Any ideas on what the heck is going on with my gentoo systems? I don't want to reinstall yet again, only to find I'm having the same problem. I'm thinking there may be a bug in the gentoo portage somewhere that is causing this, because I'm positive that I haven't changed any permissions on any files. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Updated gentoo systems and fresh installs
Hi guys, Is there a difference between the two? I have 2005.1 installed. As I've always understood it, my system will now always be up-to-date, as long as I keep updating it. Is 2006.0 any different than 2005.1 after the system has been installed? I'm just curious, because I have to install gentoo on a notebook, but I want package compatibility with my server. Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Updated gentoo systems and fresh installs
Thanks everyone. Just so you'll all have an extra tidbit of knowledge. A co-worker mentioned one other thing that could be a problem, that no one else mentioned. If you have not yet upgraded GCC on an old version, then use an up-to-date installation with a newer GCC, you will have binary incompatibilities with your package build system. On 3/13/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 13 March 2006 14:54, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Updated gentoo systems and fresh installs': Is there a difference between the two? I have 2005.1 installed. As I've always understood it, my system will now always be up-to-date, as long as I keep updating it. Is 2006.0 any different than 2005.1 after the system has been installed? Not very. Some packages are masked by the profile so changing profiles will change what packages are installed, sometimes. I'm assuming you are using default-linux/x86/2005.1 and thinking about moving to default-linux/x86/2006.0 (there are equivalents for most archs, and probably some of the sub-profiles). If that's the case we see that: $ diff -u 2005.1 2006.0 diff -u 2005.1/make.defaults 2006.0/make.defaults --- 2005.1/make.defaults2005-11-16 11:06:03.0 -0600 +++ 2006.0/make.defaults2006-01-31 17:06:15.0 -0600 @@ -1,5 +1,9 @@ -# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1/make.defaults,v 1.5 2005/11/16 17:00:36 wolf31o2 Exp $ +# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/make.defaults,v 1.6 2006/01/31 23:03:05 wolf31o2 Exp $ -USE=alsa apm arts avi bitmap-fonts cups eds emboss encode fortran foomaticdb gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pdflib png qt quicktime sdl spell truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts vorbis X xml2 xmms xv +# This is currently commented so that the stage1 tarball can also be used to +# build no-nptl systems. +#STAGE1_USE=nptl + +USE=alsa apache2 apm arts avi cups eds emboss encode esd foomaticdb gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg nptl ogg opengl oss pdflib png qt quicktime sdl spell truetype udev vorbis X xml xmms xv diff -u 2005.1/packages 2006.0/packages --- 2005.1/packages 2005-07-07 16:09:07.0 -0500 +++ 2006.0/packages 2006-01-18 15:19:57.0 -0600 @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ -# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1/packages,v 1.2 2005/07/07 20:11:37 wolf31o2 Exp $ +# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/packages,v 1.1 2006/01/18 21:19:57 wolf31o2 Exp $ Only in 2005.1: vserver (I stripped out the context lines, but things aren't wrapping correctly, so that my be a little hard to read.) ANYWAY, looks to me like vserver support is no longer available as a sub-profile, probably replaced or superceeded by default-linux/x86/vserver and that the default USE flags changed by adding apache2, esd, nptl, udev, and xml and removing bitmap-fonts, fortran, oggvorbis, truetype-fonts, type1-fonts, and xml2. nptl and udev you were probably already using, esd maybe not and it'll probably bring in a dependency or two. I betting xml2 has just gone away, in favor of xml. oggvorbis should have also gone away since there's no special libraries necessary to handle vorbis data in the ogg wrapper other that the ability to handle vorbis data (which can be in another wrapper, like matroska) and open ogg wrappers (which can contain other data like speex or theora). Changing the fortran flag will probably make your gcc recompile, unless you already had it turned off; I don't actually compile fortran, do you? I'm not really sure what's up with the fonts options, but it does make sense to not default to ALL types of fonts. The biggest change is the apache2 flag, so you may want to disable that is you do go with 2006.0 I'm just curious, because I have to install gentoo on a notebook, but I want package compatibility with my server. Do you mean you want to be able to use binary packages from the server, so that you don't have to compile on the notebook? If so, you probably want to keep both make.conf, make.profile, and /etc/portage identical. (If USE flags are different, a binary package will not be used.) -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] open source cpanel type hosting
Is there a package in gentoo for an open source tool like CPanel or Ensim Pro web hosting tools, or something of the like? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard setting additional search domains into DHCP-overwrited resolv.conf
On 1/31/06, Schleimer, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too am interested in knowing how to do this. Theres no obvious place in /etc/config.d/net(work?) to set new search domains in resolv.conf if anyone can provide info on this, I'd appricate it. Thanks! Ben Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan Apparently Mr Kernighan likes to use falacies! :) Poor Mr. Kernighan. Someone who writes clever code is not smart enough to debug it? That's pretty funny. Write it right the first time, and you're more productive. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.
upgrade the firmware on the router. On 1/25/06, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My son has a toshiba laptop running XP. When ever he plugs in his network cable, The router linksys goes down. I cannot ping it from my machine. Rebooting the router allows all machines to reach internet and LAN addresses for a few seconds until the router crashes again. Leaving the cable unplugged from his laptop allows the router to work properly. Any ideas? -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.
You can restart the network on XP by right clicking the network connection and clicking repair I believe. On 1/25/06, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 25 January 2006 13:42, a tiny voice compelled [EMAIL PROTECTED] to write: Recheck (I assume you've checked it already G) his network settings. He may have a bad card. Can you setup a network trace/sniffer on your linux box to see what happens? Also the Linksys will log some events - check it's log setup and see how detailed you can get. From: Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/25 Wed PM 01:36:44 EST To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router. My son has a toshiba laptop running XP. When ever he plugs in his network cable, The router linksys goes down. I cannot ping it from my machine. Rebooting the router allows all machines to reach internet and LAN addresses for a few seconds until the router crashes again. Leaving the cable unplugged from his laptop allows the router to work properly. Any ideas? -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I played a bit with his laptop (damn it's a bi**h to do anything with winders) and found that Internet Connection Sharing was enabled. I disabled same and it seems to have done the trick. My God! I fealt like a noobie trying to fumble my way around that thing. Is there no way of restarting the network on XP? -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: XP laptop crashes Linsys router.
Use ethereal, as it has a GUI. On 1/25/06, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 25 January 2006 14:52, a tiny voice compelled Phil Sexton to write: Ernie Schroder wrote: Is there no way of restarting the network on XP? From the dos prompt, command: ipconfig /renew (I think) I did a release and renew and got a valid IP from the router but I couldn't connect to the internet until I rebooted. I didn't try pinging inside or outside of the LAN so I don't know what was up. Someone know a link to a sniffer how-to? -- Phil My Home Page: http://fancypiper.info Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy Naomi's Fancy performances: http://naomisfancy.virtualave.net/schedule.html -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] PPP and VPN
Hi everyone, I had heard that kernel 2.6.15 had VPN support. So, I went to http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Set_up_a_vpn_client_with_mppe_encryption to figure out how to configure my kernel compilation. The only problem is, there doesn't appear to be PPP support anywhere in the kernel. Networking --- --- Networking support I can't expand the Networking support in any way. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: PPP and VPN
Actually, that document was a little misleading. it said Networking support, where it should have said Network device support. So, my brain omitted the Device Driver--- part, and assumed I should go under Networking ---, because I knew it was there. Anyhow, found the options. :) On 1/24/06, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I had heard that kernel 2.6.15 had VPN support. So, I went to http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Set_up_a_vpn_client_with_mppe_encryption to figure out how to configure my kernel compilation. The only problem is, there doesn't appear to be PPP support anywhere in the kernel. Networking --- --- Networking support I can't expand the Networking support in any way. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] tar over ssh
Not possible on a windows machine. :P -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables question
Under the *nat rule, -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 58443 -j DNAT --to 192.168.7.1:443 Under the *filter rules. -A ADAMS-FW-INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT On 1/20/06, Dmitry S. Makovey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: somewhat offtopic, but since I need any help I can get: how do I redirect trafic from outward facing interface (192.168.1.114:80) to loopback device (127.0.0.1:80) ? my most obvious trick: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 192.168.1.114 --dport 80 \ -j DNAT --to 127.0.0.1:80 and echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward didn't help. Machine which is opening connection is hanging there indefinitely... what did I miss? -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] weird keyboard behaviour
Hi everyone, I've been using gentoo linux for several months now. Right from the very beginning I have noticed very odd behviour with it, in regards to keyboard input. I have not seen this behaviour on other linux distributions that use kernel 2.6. Has anyone else noticed that ctrl-C using the right side of the keyboard does not always work? It's almost intermittent. I have seen this behaviour on every machine I've installed gentoo on, so I know it's not a hardware problem. Are there gentoo kernel changes related to HCIs such as the keyboard? Thanks in advance. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] please ignore
I just can't. To ignore such a message would just irritate me to no end. :P On 1/17/06, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, please ignore this mail, it is just a test. And don't flame me for it, it is legit. See bugzilla. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Java and java.library.path
on the java command line put -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib I don't know if gentoo has a config for this or not, I didn't know ADDLDPATH existed. Who knows, perhaps editing the JRE version of that file would help? On 1/17/06, darren kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I am trying to get an app called iriverter up and running. Not in portage so I built and installed manually, which went with no errors. However, after starting the app I get: Exception in thread main java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-pi-gtk-3201 in java.library.path But I do have this library: $ locate swt-pi-gtk /usr/lib/libswt-pi-gtk-3201.so I ran java-config to see which java I am using (blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.02) and I edited /etc/env.d/java/20blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.02 and added '/usr/lib/' to the 'ADDLDPATH' variable, ran env-update, sourced /etc/profile, and even logged out and back in but I still have the same error. Now: I don't really know jack about java, so can someone tell me how to get this to work? How can I add /usr/lib/ to java's library path? Thanks for consideration, -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD
Are you mounting with the sync option, or no? Try it with, and without. If you do it without, time what it takes to do the copy, and unmount. unmount will do the actual sync. I've noticed that linux in generall is extremely slow with USB devices sometimes. My external USB2 (ATA 100) drive gets 27M/sec on my machine. And with a relatively new driver, you should see speeds about like that. On 1/15/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have a 2.5in usb HD and 2 external usb2 cases. I've been getting pretty average performance with a 7200 rpm drive in both cases, but I just thought this was the way it is. However, I just did a test: $ time cp /usr/portage/distfiles/OOo_2.0.1_LinuxIntel_install.tar.gz /mnt/usb-storage/device-0/partition-5/ real1m20.903s which is pretty slow. I copied the same file in winblows (without changing usb ports or anything) and it copies in about 15 seconds. I noticed I had uhci-hcd loaded (the usb 1 module?) so I unloaded it, and my keyboard stopped working!!! So using the laptop keyboard, I replugged the HD (now without uhci-hcd) and it still goes slow... $ sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sdd /dev/sdd: Timing cached reads: 3640 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1820.28 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 30 MB in 3.13 seconds = 9.60 MB/sec 9.6 is pretty slow! I should be able to get at least double that... And as I've said, I know this port is usb 2.0. Any hints? thanks, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au IN MY OPINION anyone interested in improving himself should not rule out becoming pure energy. -- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla firefox 1.5 and gnome
On 1/15/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trenton Adams schreef: On 1/14/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/14/06, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The old version could disable gnome, but 1.5 can't. Perhaps it's a firefox 1.5 ebuild limitation? I hope that's what it is, because I can't stand gnome. False. carcharias rjf # ldd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin | grep gnome carcharias rjf # emerge -pv mozilla-firefox These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5-r9 USE=java -debug -gnome -ipv6 -mozdevelop -xinerama -xprint 0 kB If you already have gnome installed, gnome won't show up unless you go --tree, will it? Either way, you can take a look in the ebuild file for firefox 1.5, and there's no reference to gnome. No checking of the gnome useflag or anything like that. 1.0.7 has it though. The appearance of USE flags (which is what we're talking about) is unrelated to whether or not you have the package installed already-- a USE flag does not appear or disappear based on whether you have the relevant package installed. In fact, the USE flag controls to great degree whether you install the relevant dependency or not (i.e., if K3b optionally depends on KDE, then enabling the kde USE flag will install additional, optional KDE support programs. But since K3b requires kdelibs and kdebase to run at all, these hard dependencies are not controlled by the USE flag). Oh, I get it. the thing that confused me was that he put the USE=, so I thought he was showing me what use flags he had set, not the output of the emerge command. Now I see he was showing the output of the emerge command and adding USE=. Either that, or he's using a newer version of emerge that outputs USE= for him. In any case: emerge -pv mozilla-firefox gnome-light These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5-r9 USE=gnome java xprint -debug -ipv6 -mozdevelop -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-light-2.12.0 0 kB As you see, I do have GNOME installed, and the gnome USE flag does still appear in the Firefox prospective emerge output. | Runtime Dependencies | mozilla-firefox-1.5-r9 | | gnome = gnome-base/gnome-vfs - 2.3.5 | Title: gnome-vfs | Description: Gnome Virtual Filesystem So enabling the gnome USE flag adds a runtime dependency on the GNOME virtual file system. Which sounds an awful lot like something that might affect dialogs. However, since there were a lot of complaints about the old dialog, I strongly doubt that disabling this flag would change the dialogs terribly significantly, except that you wouldn't have the GNOME extras that I mentioned before. It's quite likely that even the naked new dialog is a lot like the current GNOME dialog. And again, the likely reason that there is no reference to GNOME in the ebuild is because the references to GNOME integration and compatibility are *in the source code*, because the *Mozilla developers chose* this dialog *as the default* (but not the only) choice of dialog. That is their good right, just as it is your good right to change that if you so desire (since that is apparently quite possible to do). Ebuilds don't do anything but compile the code as given, with some slight modification to work within the Gentoo system (as opposed to the RedHat system or the SuSE system). Ebuilds certainly don't change things as integral to the operation of the program as the format and type of file dialogs. I suppose you could trawl through the source and see where this is set and then write an ebuild to make the choice of file dialog type a configure option-- maybe. If it's already a configure option. Which I doubt. But you could look. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD
On 1/16/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 10:46 -0700, Trenton Adams wrote: Are you mounting with the sync option, or no? Try it with, and without. If you do it without, time what it takes to do the copy, and unmount. unmount will do the actual sync. hey, that sped it up heaps! $ sudo mount -t vfat -o uid=iain,gid=users,async /dev/sdd6 /mnt/tmp/ $ time { cp /usr/portage/distfiles/OOo_2.0.1_LinuxIntel_install.tar.gz /mnt/tmp/; sudo umount /mnt/tmp/; } real0m11.134s thats a huge increase (11s instead of 81s!), so how come hdparm still reports 9MB/s? I've noticed that linux in generall is extremely slow with USB devices sometimes. My external USB2 (ATA 100) drive gets 27M/sec on my machine. And with a relatively new driver, you should see speeds about like that. Is that calculating the times yourself, or with hdparm? Yes, calculating myself. And I don't know why hdparm would report that other time. thanks, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it. -- Groucho Marx -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD
On 1/16/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 10:46 -0700, Trenton Adams wrote: Are you mounting with the sync option, or no? Try it with, and without. If you do it without, time what it takes to do the copy, and unmount. unmount will do the actual sync. hey, that sped it up heaps! $ sudo mount -t vfat -o uid=iain,gid=users,async /dev/sdd6 /mnt/tmp/ $ time { cp /usr/portage/distfiles/OOo_2.0.1_LinuxIntel_install.tar.gz /mnt/tmp/; sudo umount /mnt/tmp/; } real0m11.134s thats a huge increase (11s instead of 81s!), so how come hdparm still reports 9MB/s? I'm wondering if we should be reporting this to the kernel guys. I see this on *all* linux systems with kernel 2.6, but I'm not sure about 2.4. But, I think I'll try enabling some options that Richard mentioned first. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD
On 1/16/06, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering if we should be reporting this to the kernel guys. I see this on *all* linux systems with kernel 2.6, but I'm not sure about 2.4. But, I think I'll try enabling some options that Richard mentioned first. Kernel guys know it very well. They recently implemented the sync option for FAT filesystems, and this is turned on by default. Unluckly, sync is really OK for FAT partitions on an HD, but not for USB devices. I hope they will realize soon that not only it degrades performance of USB drives, but it also wears out flash memories really fast. Actually, that's a good point. All that writing to the FAT would use those flash blocks a lot, which would indeed wear it out. Windows does sync by default as well. But, it's sync is extremely fast for some reason. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla firefox 1.5 and gnome
On 1/14/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/14/06, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The old version could disable gnome, but 1.5 can't. Perhaps it's a firefox 1.5 ebuild limitation? I hope that's what it is, because I can't stand gnome. False. carcharias rjf # ldd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin | grep gnome carcharias rjf # emerge -pv mozilla-firefox These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5-r9 USE=java -debug -gnome -ipv6 -mozdevelop -xinerama -xprint 0 kB -Richard If you already have gnome installed, gnome won't show up unless you go --tree, will it? Either way, you can take a look in the ebuild file for firefox 1.5, and there's no reference to gnome. No checking of the gnome useflag or anything like that. 1.0.7 has it though. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla firefox 1.5 and gnome
On 1/14/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graham Murray wrote: Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So the reason why the open/save dialogs are the same is because they use the same resources (GTK settings, many of which can be set in GNOME). Yet the previous versions of mozilla-firefox did not use this open/save dialog. Correct. So? Things change. Or is it an gtk upgrade which caused it? No. It is the gnome USE flag. Well, it's not the gnome use flag because I disable gnome in my use flags. And besides, the firefox 1.5 ebuild does not use the gnome use flag. And I added it for testing purposes to see if I could prevent it from being used. I just copied from the older firefox. Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla firefox 1.5 and gnome
On 1/13/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trenton Adams schreef: Hi everyone, I'm just curious about something. I installed mozilla-firefox-bin, and I got what I *thought* was the gnome open/save dialog. And I absolutely I can't stand that thing. So, I decided to compile mozilla-firefox for myself, as I have -gnome in my use flags. Well for some reason, I still have that open/save dialog. So, is that a gnome open/save dialog, or is it something else? Yes, as far as I know, it is (though I myself do have GNOME installed). Firefox depends on gtk: (from www.gentoo-portage.com ; the compile-it-yourself version used for clarity, since even the bin has to be originally compiled by someone): Runtime Dependencies mozilla-firefox-1.5-r9 |app-arch/unzip |app-arch/zip |dev-libs/expat |= dev-libs/glib - 2.8.2 |= dev-libs/libIDL - 0.8.0 |= media-libs/jpeg - 6b |= media-libs/libmng - 1.0.0 |= media-libs/libpng - 1.2.1 |= sys-libs/zlib - 1.1.4 |= www-client/mozilla-launcher - 1.42 |= www-client/mozilla-launcher - 1.39 |! x11-base/xorg-x11 - 6.7.0-r2 |= x11-libs/cairo - 1.0.0 === x11-libs/gtk+ - 2.8.6 |x11-libs/libXmu |x11-libs/libXmu |x11-libs/libXrender |x11-libs/libXrender |x11-libs/libXt |x11-libs/libXt | = x11-libs/pango - 1.10.1 |gnome = gnome-base/gnome-vfs - 2.3.5 |virtual/x11 |virtual/x11 |java virtual/jre Firefox is a GTK application, so it uses the GTK toolkit (as opposed to the QT toolkit, which KDE uses). The old version could disable gnome, but 1.5 can't. Perhaps it's a firefox 1.5 ebuild limitation? I hope that's what it is, because I can't stand gnome. GNOME is a GTK-based DE (as opposed to KDE which is QT-based). So the reason why the open/save dialogs are the same is because they use the same resources (GTK settings, many of which can be set in GNOME). I can't say if the extra features that I have because I have GNOME installed are present in your open/save dialog (bookmarked folders, for example). Is there going to be a way of NOT making it the standard open/save dialog when firefox 1.5 gets unmasked? Masking or unmasking is not going to change the source code, which depends on GTK. Only upstream can recode the program with a different toolkit. And that seems unlikely to happen, since it hasn't happened yet (and if the toolset was going to change, it probably would have before 1.0, not suddenly now when the release is finally stable enough to be picking up steam fast in the popularity stakes). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla firefox 1.5 and gnome
On 1/14/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trenton Adams schreef: The old version could disable gnome, but 1.5 can't. Perhaps it's a firefox 1.5 ebuild limitation? I hope that's what it is, because I can't stand gnome. No, it has nothing to do with the ebuild, it's a choice of the Mozilla.org developers. But perhaps you missed Edwin Kapauni's post, linking you to a thread on the forums where they tell you how to change the dialog to either the old one, or even the KDE one. For ease of searching, here it is again: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2934098-highlight-.html#2931694 Yes, I missed that, thanks. When a message is small, it's hard to notice in gmail, amongst a bunch of other ones. :( Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags: mmx sse sse2
On 1/12/06, John Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 January 2006 18:45, Tom Smith wrote: Well, if they're /not/ mutually exclusive, another question that comes up is... If a program is compiled with sse or sse2 support on a Pentium II, will the program run slower than it otherwise would? (Some of the programs I have are compiled and then distributed to servers with different CPUs--P-IIs and P-IVs, mainly.) If a program uses an instruction that the processor doesn't support, the program will be sent SIGILL, the default action of which is to terminate immediately. Are you absolutely positive of that? I *thought* (would have thought) compilers these days would compile in conditional use of such instructions? That way if large blocks could benefit from these new instructions, they would use them, otherwise fall back to a common set of instructions. Of course this wouldn't be very beneficial for small sections of code. I've been wondering about this for quite some time though, but never bothered to investigate. -- # # electronerd, the electronerdian from electronerdia # -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags: mmx sse sse2
On 1/13/06, Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, mmx doesn't really mean anything: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMX mplayer and the X server gain performance by using these extensions (mmx, sse, sse2). One of the reasons why X is much faster in Gentoo than in Debian. (Personal Experience, please, no flames) Yes, MMX is quite an improvement if actually used in code. I once had to squeeze microseconds out of some windows code that I was writing, in order to speed up RS232 communication, and it made a HUGE difference. The code was originally taking a few ms, but I got it down to a few hundred microseconds by using MMX. MMX can operate on 64bit integers, where standard IA32 instructions can only operate on 32bit integers. 2006/1/13, John Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 13 January 2006 07:45, Francesco Riosa wrote: Tom Smith wrote: Well, if they're /not/ mutually exclusive, another question that comes up is... If a program is compiled with sse or sse2 support on a Pentium II, will the program run slower than it otherwise would? (Some of the programs I have are compiled and then distributed to servers with different CPUs--P-IIs and P-IVs, mainly.) speaking of manually added options to CFLAGS*, not of use flags The only place where mathematics count on a server is encryption ? (notice the question mark) Mayor part of server software use integer math that are not so enhanced by optimizations. The code produced is less stable, and difficult to debug, this bring to the question: why take the risk ? actually, mmx (MultiMedia eXtensions) , sse and sse2 instructions are designed primarily for multimedia and gaming type applications, which _do_ use floating-point math, and AFAIK, encryption is going to be all-integer too (floating-point math is not perfectly precise) And, like I said earlier, if you put a program with an sse or sse2 instruction on a PII, the program will most likely spontaneously abort when it tries to execute the unsupported instruction. -- # # electronerd, the electronerdian from electronerdia # -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo installer suggestions
Thanks Holly, I actually did already read a review. I think it was the link you sent. Not sure now. I'll check it out. On 1/9/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Martin schreef: On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 02:09:14 -0700 Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those developing the graphical gentoo installer... Might I suggest a search box at the bottom of the extra packages screen, to be able to search for packages? Probably a good idea to drop a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and post to their mailing list. You might also be interested in reading this week's Gentoo Weekly Newsletter, which contains a short review/usage test of the installer, with screenshots: 5. Gentoo in the press == Asteria (December 2005) --- Jon Hood, a developer working for Asteria Solutions Group, Inc.[18] takes the current beta version of the Gentoo Installer[19] for a test drive around the block, and appears quite satisfied[20] with the result, calls it a wonderful step in the right direction for the Gentoo distribution, and is particularly delighted because people aren't supposed to actually USE testing software and have it WORK, but that's exactly what happened. His review includes a pretty little slideshow[21] documenting every step of the installation process when done via the GUI installer, very interesting for everybody who's never seen it at work. 18. http://www.asteriasgi.com 19. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/installer/ 20. http://www2.asteriasgi.com/review/ 21. http://www2.asteriasgi.com/review/slideshow.html 10. GWN subscription information To subscribe to the Gentoo Weekly Newsletter, send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe to the Gentoo Weekly Newsletter, send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the email address you are subscribed under. === 11. Other languages === The Gentoo Weekly Newsletter is also available in the following languages: * Danish[68] * Dutch[69] * English[70] * German[71] * French[72] * Korean[73] * Japanese[74] * Italian[75] * Polish[76] * Portuguese (Brazil)[77] * Portuguese (Portugal)[78] * Russian[79] * Spanish[80] * Turkish[81] 68. http://www.gentoo.org/news/da/gwn/gwn.xml 69. http://www.gentoo.org/news/nl/gwn/gwn.xml 70. http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/gwn.xml 71. http://www.gentoo.org/news/de/gwn/gwn.xml 72. http://www.gentoo.org/news/fr/gwn/gwn.xml 73. http://www.gentoo.org/news/ko/gwn/gwn.xml 74. http://www.gentoo.org/news/ja/gwn/gwn.xml 75. http://www.gentoo.org/news/it/gwn/gwn.xml 76. http://www.gentoo.org/news/pl/gwn/gwn.xml 77. http://www.gentoo.org/news/pt_br/gwn/gwn.xml 78. http://www.gentoo.org/news/pt/gwn/gwn.xml 79. http://www.gentoo.org/news/ru/gwn/gwn.xml 80. http://www.gentoo.org/news/es/gwn/gwn.xml 81. http://www.gentoo.org/news/tr/gwn/gwn.xm Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
On 1/8/06, Abhay Kedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 08 January 2006 03:25, Trenton Adams wrote: So, there's documentation that specifically explains that packages can be split, and this can cause a conflict? I tried to find that, after What? How is packages being split even comes in question and why does it need specific documentation? A conflict is a conflict. It can arise because of any new change that has been committed to portage. Man pages explain how to solve these conflicts. Job done! Now I don't understand how hand-picking each problem and then explaining about it is going to help. Documentation about a super-set is present. How will writing the same thing about each subset help the matter? If anything it will just increase the redundancy. What you want is a how to on climbing the stairs. Either you can write, Climb 1st step and then go step by step or you can write Climb 1st step, then climb 2nd step, then 3rd step, then climb...? Which one do you want? I dont' need most of gentoo's documentation, as I've found it quite easy to use, after learning and reading about a few basic things. But not everyone does. Why? Why doesn't everyone else find Gentoo easy? What is it that differs you from others? Some super intelligence? The only difference between you and the others that I can see is that you chose to read while others don't. Well, could be many things. I've found fear of computers to be one blocker to being better at computers than one can be. Having fear creates a mind block. Another one could simply be lack of experience. The more experience you have, the more likely you are able to solve a *new* problem quickly, as it could be related in some way. Perhaps you can call this intuition. And I'm sure there are many more. So no, not superior intelligence. In fact, I don't believe in *genius*. :) Actually, I had a great debate about this topic with a guy at work. He worships people like Linus and such. I told him that even people like Linus, although intelligent, will happily admit that they are products of circumstance. And, to prove my point, I did a search about Linus on this topic. As it were, he wrote a book called The Accidental Revolutionary, or something like that. I've actually been meaning to read it. So, either Linus has false humility (which is arrogance), or he means what he says. I've also found that those who think they are intelligent, usually are not. :D As it were, I believe Linus to actually be intelligent, only because he decides to actually work, rather than sit on his butt all day. But, that's all a side tangent. LOL Regards, Abhay -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
On 1/8/06, Abhay Kedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 08 January 2006 06:36, Trenton Adams wrote: Here we go again, who says that you have to limit it to a menu? Give a menu, but allow a graphical shell during install for those that want to do extra packages, or whatever. Or, even provide a dynamically extendable menu that can grab packages lists from other places, from another CD, floppy, Internet, etc. So, to not provide a menu would be *limiting* as well. But I do agree with you Holly, that providing *only* a *predefined* graphical menu for package installation would be limiting. Menu of what? How will a Gentoo developer know what you want to install? If you are starting from Stage 3, you just need to choose what to install and thats it. How will a menu help you in that? As far as graphics based Gentoo install is concerned. I don't think that it is even anywhere near Gentoo Dev's priorities right now. Really? Then why have they already created one? Hmm. Wouldn't it be beneficial to provide automated graphical installs for gentoo, but provide the option to open a graphical shell at *all* stages of the installation process? Wouldn't that be ultimate flexibility? I read about the new graphical install for gentoo, and perhaps it already does this!?!? Yes having a graphical install process would be great. Why don't you volunteer and try to write one for us? :) Yeah, I would love to find the time to do that. At this moment though I don't have the time, as my wife would be upset with me doing extra work when I come home from work after doing the extra work that I do after coming home from work. LOL. But I certainly will when I get the time. Regards, Abhay -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/installer/ On 1/8/06, Abhay Kedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 08 January 2006 13:57, Trenton Adams wrote: Menu of what? How will a Gentoo developer know what you want to install? If you are starting from Stage 3, you just need to choose what to install and thats it. How will a menu help you in that? As far as graphics based Gentoo install is concerned. I don't think that it is even anywhere near Gentoo Dev's priorities right now. Really? Then why have they already created one? Hmm. They have? Where? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gentoo installer suggestions
For those developing the graphical gentoo installer... Might I suggest a search box at the bottom of the extra packages screen, to be able to search for packages? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
ROFL. :P I'm just saying that there's *always* room for improvement. And this install thing is a good start. Automation, with flexibility intact, is never a bad thing. On 1/8/06, Abhay Kedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 08 January 2006 14:33, Trenton Adams wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/installer/ Looks great to me. Just didn't see any discussion on gentoo-dev or may be I missed it. So now what do you want then? You have a graphical based install and once you have a working system, you can install more packages. What makes you say that gentoo is difficult? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
On 1/8/06, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 08 January 2006 03:23, a tiny voice compelled Trenton Adams to write: Well, could be many things. I've found fear of computers to be one blocker to being better at computers than one can be. Having fear creates a mind block. Why would someone with a fear of computers even consider Gentoo? Who says they know they have a fear of computers? You can be doing something that you don't even know you're afraid of. Obviously if it was total fear, they would know about it. -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo installer suggestions
Thanks. I will. On 1/8/06, Tom Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 02:09:14 -0700 Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those developing the graphical gentoo installer... Might I suggest a search box at the bottom of the extra packages screen, to be able to search for packages? Probably a good idea to drop a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and post to their mailing list. -- Tom Martin, http://dev.gentoo.org/~slarti AMD64, net-mail, shell-tools, vim, recruiters Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
On 1/7/06, Abhay Kedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 07 January 2006 10:43, Trenton Adams wrote: which is what I mentioned in another post that I made. When I originally started with gentoo linux, I read the part about why gentoo linux came about. Basically it was all about doing things the way you want. Well, I like the flexiblity, but I also want the simplicity. :) Let us have the simplicity of RedHat, and RPMs (waiting for flames), but with flexibility as well. You should review what you want out of your Linux Distro cos I for once am failing to understand your point of view. What do you want? Gentoo is gentoo. It gives you full control to do what *YOU* want to do and taking full control of a full fledged OS is needless to say; difficult. If you don't desire or need the full control then imho there are various other distros available with *simplicity* written all over them. They should be there at your service. But if Gentoo starts to uninstall stuff from my system without asking me then the whole philosophy of control dies or Gentoo dies. I never said it should uninstall stuff without asking you. In fact, I suggested it ask me. And gentoo is hardly difficult for anyone with a brain. *Perhaps* time consuming to learn, but not difficult. And as I said before, I'm using gentoo because of it's flexibility, so that's what I'm sticking with. In fact, all my Linux computers have now been converted to gentoo, as of this past week. So I don't plan on switching them back any time soon. I'm just of the mind that we really should encourage it's use, while encouraging people to also understand what's happening under the hood. I like both that my car just works, and I don't have to know how the pistons go up and down, but that I can also look under the hood if I so desire. Regards, Abhay -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
Interesting viewpoint, and some of the things you say do have relevance Holly. Thanks. But, I still think things should be a little easier for the average user. I'm really sick of the windows admins who *think* linux is hard, when it's really not, and bash it all the time because of that. I'm all for converting them. :) On 1/7/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trenton Adams schreef: Oops, forgot to reply to everything. On 1/6/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trenton Adams schreef: On 1/5/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 16:32:20 -0700, Trenton Adams wrote: something like if_blocked_by('openmotif') ewarn You must unmerge openmotif before proceeding Yes, or as follows... if_blocked_by('openmotif') auto_unmerge('openmotif') # continue with merge which should automatically be merging openmotif anyhow. Absolutely not! I don't want portage removing something I may be using at the time without my saying so. Good point. Perhaps it should ask then? Well, it does, by stopping and waiting for you to perform an action and either restart the stopped process (if the action you took was to unmerge the blocking package), or to forego the stopped process entirely, if you choose not to remove the blocked package because you want to keep it for whatever reason (it could happen). You're assuming that unmerging the blocking package is *always* the right solution for everyone at all times (in this case, it's not really relevant, since motif-config will itself re-install openmotif), but the point of Gentoo is that you are in control. If I am in control, then I have to decide what I want done in each particular situation that occurs, which is exactly what I have to do with the current setup-- very obviously, since Portage will stop until I make a decision and act on it. So fine, your new updated Portage informs me there's a block, and says, I could do this to solve it, shall I? I myself am going to say no, because I want to know the nature of the block, and how Portage's proposed action is going to affect the system that I have carefully customized to my individual needs. Yes, flexibility is GREAT. That's one reason I really like gentoo, and linux in general. However, I also like simplicity, or should I say, I like to have the choice. So, one could easily make gentoo have auto-detect and handle features, while allowing configuration changes that disable automatic behaviour. You could have individual enable/disable options for each feature, as well as one global feature than enables/disables all auto-detect features. Then you could have include/excludes for each feature so that the global would not override them. So, the bottom line is this, one person says that things are difficult because they need to be, in order to be flexible. But I say that if things are truly flexible, then it should also be possible to make them automatic, or simple. That's what I call ULTIMATE flexiblity, which is what I mentioned in another post that I made. When I originally started with gentoo linux, I read the part about why gentoo linux came about. Basically it was all about doing things the way you want. Well, I like the flexiblity, but I also want the simplicity. :) Let us have the simplicity of RedHat, and RPMs (waiting for flames), but with flexibility as well. Well, if this is your opinion, I must then accept the burden of being one of those members of the Linux community you mention Trenton Adams schreef: Yes, and I've noticed there's a big problem with the linux community at large. People that know and understand linux have a lot of the times not helped the open source intiative, in that they like things to be difficult, Although this is not strictly true I don't *like* things to be difficult, /per se/ but I do tend to do things the hard way rather than the easy way because it makes them somehow seem smarter. In all reality, it doesn't take a genius to use linux, just someone who likes to read a whole lot. I do like to read a whole lot (always have), and I don't so much care how smart anyone thinks I am, but if I am in any way smart, I do want that to be recognized, which is a different thing. But if you leave out the rather insulting insinuation that such users are not in fact smart, but ego-trippers who just have nothing to do but read dry technical texts that no normal person would ever bother with, I'll cop to the charge. The thing is, I prefer things to be slightly more difficult because I believe that people using advanced tools should have a clue about how they work and how to use them properly. As I have said before, and will likely say again in the future, I believe that a policy of providing advanced technology, dumbed-down so that it Just Works to the unwashed masses (let us
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
First off all, the install process is only a portion of making gentoo *easier*. At it is kind of a tangent to the original discussion. But, none the less, it is a good discussion. On 1/7/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trenton Adams schreef: Interesting points, but On 1/7/06, Abhay Kedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 07 January 2006 22:00, Trenton Adams wrote: I like both that my car just works, and I don't have to know how the pistons go up and down, but that I can also look under the hood if I so desire. Thinking on the wrong lines again and what you want can never happen, at least with Gentoo; because Gentoo does not give you a working car at all. It just gives you spare parts (ebuilds packages), books to read (documentation) and a tool box (portage). Then it tells you to go ahead and make your own car. It totally depends on you whether you want to make it a blazing fast Ferrari or a classy Limo. To achieve anything of that sorts you *HAVE TO* know how the pistons go up and down. If you don't read and just put together the pieces in a random order then you might make a moving car but it will not be a working one. Moral of the story? To have full control, you gotta know how things work inside the engine :) Well actually, it could happen. If I had a menu of packages to be installed during some sort of automated install process, then I'm still customizing my system the way I want. So once again, you absolutely *CAN* have gentoo flexibility with easy of install Just a quick question: Isn't creating a menu of packages to be installed part of the install process? If not, because you did not create this menu yourself, then you are not customizing your system the way you want, but rather choosing the most suitable for you amongst a list of pre-defined-- thus, by definition, limiting-- options. Here we go again, who says that you have to limit it to a menu? Give a menu, but allow a graphical shell during install for those that want to do extra packages, or whatever. Or, even provide a dynamically extendable menu that can grab packages lists from other places, from another CD, floppy, Internet, etc. So, to not provide a menu would be *limiting* as well. But I do agree with you Holly, that providing *only* a *predefined* graphical menu for package installation would be limiting. Now, I'm just brain storming here... Wouldn't it be beneficial to provide automated graphical installs for gentoo, but provide the option to open a graphical shell at *all* stages of the installation process? Wouldn't that be ultimate flexibility? I read about the new graphical install for gentoo, and perhaps it already does this!?!? If you did create the menu of packages yourself, and it then is (as it must be) considered part of the installation process, then isn't the installation process no longer easy, by your definition of easy? Well, this is a side tangent, given my reply just above. None the less, all of *my* installs from the point after I created my *own* menu would be easy. Not quite following the logic here. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
Sorry, I shouldn't have said, Here we go again, as that can be antogonizing, which doesn't help anything. :( On 1/7/06, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First off all, the install process is only a portion of making gentoo *easier*. At it is kind of a tangent to the original discussion. But, none the less, it is a good discussion. On 1/7/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trenton Adams schreef: Interesting points, but On 1/7/06, Abhay Kedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 07 January 2006 22:00, Trenton Adams wrote: I like both that my car just works, and I don't have to know how the pistons go up and down, but that I can also look under the hood if I so desire. Thinking on the wrong lines again and what you want can never happen, at least with Gentoo; because Gentoo does not give you a working car at all. It just gives you spare parts (ebuilds packages), books to read (documentation) and a tool box (portage). Then it tells you to go ahead and make your own car. It totally depends on you whether you want to make it a blazing fast Ferrari or a classy Limo. To achieve anything of that sorts you *HAVE TO* know how the pistons go up and down. If you don't read and just put together the pieces in a random order then you might make a moving car but it will not be a working one. Moral of the story? To have full control, you gotta know how things work inside the engine :) Well actually, it could happen. If I had a menu of packages to be installed during some sort of automated install process, then I'm still customizing my system the way I want. So once again, you absolutely *CAN* have gentoo flexibility with easy of install Just a quick question: Isn't creating a menu of packages to be installed part of the install process? If not, because you did not create this menu yourself, then you are not customizing your system the way you want, but rather choosing the most suitable for you amongst a list of pre-defined-- thus, by definition, limiting-- options. Here we go again, who says that you have to limit it to a menu? Give a menu, but allow a graphical shell during install for those that want to do extra packages, or whatever. Or, even provide a dynamically extendable menu that can grab packages lists from other places, from another CD, floppy, Internet, etc. So, to not provide a menu would be *limiting* as well. But I do agree with you Holly, that providing *only* a *predefined* graphical menu for package installation would be limiting. Now, I'm just brain storming here... Wouldn't it be beneficial to provide automated graphical installs for gentoo, but provide the option to open a graphical shell at *all* stages of the installation process? Wouldn't that be ultimate flexibility? I read about the new graphical install for gentoo, and perhaps it already does this!?!? If you did create the menu of packages yourself, and it then is (as it must be) considered part of the installation process, then isn't the installation process no longer easy, by your definition of easy? Well, this is a side tangent, given my reply just above. None the less, all of *my* installs from the point after I created my *own* menu would be easy. Not quite following the logic here. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] odd portate BINARY_HOST behaviour after sync
These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Fetching binary packages info... Loaded metadata pickle. Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/emerge, line 3123, in ? mydepgraph=depgraph(myaction,myopts) File /usr/bin/emerge, line 915, in __init__ portage.db[/][bintree].populate((--getbinpkg in myopts), (--getbinpkgonly in myopts)) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 5931, in populate self.remotepkgs = getbinpkg.dir_get_metadata(settings[PORTAGE_BINHOST], chunk_size=chunk_size) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/getbinpkg.py, line 440, in dir_get_metadata filelist = dir_get_list(baseurl, conn) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/getbinpkg.py, line 297, in dir_get_list listing = conn.nlst(address) File /usr/lib/python2.4/ftplib.py, line 448, in nlst self.retrlines(cmd, files.append) File /usr/lib/python2.4/ftplib.py, line 395, in retrlines resp = self.sendcmd('TYPE A') File /usr/lib/python2.4/ftplib.py, line 241, in sendcmd return self.getresp() File /usr/lib/python2.4/ftplib.py, line 214, in getresp raise error_temp, resp ftplib.error_temp: 421 No Transfer Timeout (5 seconds): closing control connection. Now here's the great part. If I remove /var/cache/edb/remote_metadata.pickle, everything works great. But, if I try it again the next time, it fails with the above errors. Then I remove the remote_metadata.pickle again, and it works. Any clues on this one? It looks like it's having some sort of active FTP problem perhaps? But why would it work when I remove the pickle, but not afterwards? This is just very bizarre to me. Does it not use active FTP the first round or something? All I've got to say, is that really weird things are happening, LOL. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list