Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 10/22/2009 09:58 PM, jcup...@gmail.com wrote: > 2009/10/22 Martin Nordholts : >>> I have the impression that the least painful way to make GEGL fast >>> SOON may be to build its desired API on top of VIPS. >> >> We can't use VIPS in GIMP because we need a d

Re: [Gimp-developer] The mailing list uptime; ask GNOME to host?

2009-10-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 10/22/2009 07:37 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote: > Martin Nordholts wrote: > >> It is exactly that that is our root problem, we don't have such an admin. One >> way to solve this is to move the list to a place that has sysadmins. > > A place like XCF at Berkeley? &g

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 10/22/2009 04:15 PM, Nicolas Robidoux wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:50 PM, peter sikking wrote: > >> another 'external' area where we really can use some help is gegl, >> to get that from its bumbling experimentation speed to production >> speeds that are same or even better that curren

Re: [Gimp-developer] The mailing list uptime; ask GNOME to host?

2009-10-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
2009/10/20 Sven Neumann : > On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 18:22 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: >> What do people think about asking GNOME to host the list [1]? Personally >> I would be fine with that. > > I don't quite understand why we don't pull the problem at its roots

[Gimp-developer] The mailing list uptime; ask GNOME to host?

2009-10-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
Hi everyone! It is great to see the gimp-developer list up and running again, but it has had two rather long downtimes recently and it is not unreasonable to assume that these problems will continue. What do people think about asking GNOME to host the list [1]? Personally I would be fine with tha

[Gimp-developer] The mailing list uptime

2009-10-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
Hi everyone! It is great to see the gimp-developer list up and running again, but it has had two rather long downtimes recently and it is not unreasonable to assume that these problems will continue. What do people think about asking GNOME to host the list [1]? Personally I would be fine with tha

Re: [Gimp-developer] obtain a Windows DIB handle to a GIMP selection

2009-10-06 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 10/06/2009 10:55 AM, Lucian Sabo wrote: > Hello all, > > I want to create a plugin for Windows only that makes use of a windows DLL. > The function from the DLL I need to call requires a DIB Handle as parameter > and the original file name. > I did not found any method to get active selection

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save + Export proposal

2009-10-05 Thread Martin Nordholts
Hi, On 10/05/2009 02:10 AM, photoco...@gmail.com wrote: > But even if conceptually different in practice , both operation are always > needed for the every edited image: > is needed to Save the original AND to export as jpg or png . This assumption is wrong. Complex compositions will need to be

Re: [Gimp-developer] Content distribution system

2009-10-04 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 10/04/2009 11:34 AM, Stephen wrote: > I would like to work on Bug 306713 - Write a GIMP plug-in and resource > distribution system > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=306713 Cool! > -instead of providing downloads ourselves, we could make third parties > the download providers and jus

Re: [Gimp-developer] Icons for layer modes

2009-10-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 10/01/2009 07:46 PM, peter sikking wrote: > meanwhile, can the overlay thing be repaired file-backward-compatible? If you refer to the Overlay layer mode being different when using GEGL compositing compared to legacy compositing, then yes I'm sure it's repairable, and we don't have much choice

Re: [Gimp-developer] Invoking custom Gimp module from Web (Apache)

2009-10-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 10/02/2009 05:47 PM, Vio wrote: > gimp --no-interface --batch='(python-fu-pdf2jpg RUN-NONINTERACTIVE > "/path/to/image/to/proces.pdf" )' --batch='(gimp-quit 1)' > > doesn't get executed. Or it does but fails silently - which is not > very helpful here !! Does it help if you set the GIMP2_DIRE

Re: [Gimp-developer] Icons for layer modes

2009-10-01 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 10/01/2009 06:40 PM, peter sikking wrote: > peter (yahvuu) wrote: > > first: let me say that there is some real innovative stuff in this > post, it is surely intriguing me. I can only agree, really nice work yahvuu > > >

Re: [Gimp-developer] C plug-in call

2009-09-30 Thread Martin Nordholts
Hi, On 09/30/2009 03:01 PM, alfredo.gar...@ludis.info wrote: > Is it possible to call an other plug-in in a C plug-in ? Yes, with gimp_run_procedure() [1] Do git grep gimp_run_procedure in the GIMP source for examples on how it can be used. Regards, Martin [1] http://developer.gimp.org/api

Re: [Gimp-developer] Can I have tabs and Apply button in the plugin GUI?

2009-09-28 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/28/2009 06:46 PM, Louise Hoffman wrote: >> Yes it's possible, you can create any GTK+ interface in plug-ins. >> To get tabs you'd use GtkNotebook. You can hook any code to an >> Apply button, including code that takes the active tab into >> account. > > Is it possible that my plugin can be o

Re: [Gimp-developer] Can I have tabs and Apply button in the plugin GUI?

2009-09-28 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/28/2009 02:21 PM, Louise Hoffman wrote: > Dear developers, > > Can someone tell if this GUI design is possible? > > http://pastebin.com/m1ccbcd06 > > The reason I would like to have tabs is because of the work flow, and > the values in the Modify tab will be different depending to the load

Re: [Gimp-developer] Where to post rotate brushes bugfix?

2009-09-28 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/28/2009 10:06 AM, Michael Natterer wrote: > On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 12:42 -0800, Tal wrote: >> I found and solved a new bug in the bilinear rotate transform algorithm that >> sometimes caused artifacting on brush edges for brushes rotated 90, -90, >> -180, 180 degrees. >> >> Since the previou

Re: [Gimp-developer] are there other occurences of the %s part of "_Undo %s" ?

2009-09-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/20/2009 09:56 AM, Cristian Secară wrote: > There are several strings that become part of these strings: > _Undo %s > _Redo %s > _Fade %s... > > My question is if those strings that replaces %s are unique for this > combination, or they may appear in other places too. Hi, No, there is no gu

Re: [Gimp-developer] A new

2009-09-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/20/2009 08:19 AM, Gerald Friedland wrote: >> A good foreground selection tool would need to get rid of the red in the >> pixels with both red and green and only leave slightly transparent green >> pixels. > > Absolutely. And this is exactly what Jenny has implemented as part of > the Google

Re: [Gimp-developer] A new

2009-09-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/19/2009 08:20 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: > On Sat, 2009-09-19 at 15:38 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: > >> But SIOX is supposed to be more than a selection tool, isn't it? Isn't >> it about extracting foreground objects? A selection is not enough for that >&g

Re: [Gimp-developer] A new

2009-09-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/19/2009 03:17 PM, peter sikking wrote: > Gerald Friedland wrote: > >> That's a great idea. The idea would be to have only on foreground >> selection tool and make it automatically determine whether to use >> Magic Wand or SIOX > > I have been saying this for a while: > > every time I look

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp undo-redo tree

2009-09-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/19/2009 02:12 PM, Jan Rüegg wrote: > Hello, I am new to gimp development, and I'm trying to implement an undo > - redo tree in Gimp Hi Jan and welcome! I'd love to help you out hacking on GIMP. My preferred way to do tight collaboration is using IRC. In GIMP's case that's #gimp on irc.gnome

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save/Export Patch

2009-09-16 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/16/2009 11:16 AM, James Hughes wrote: > Hello, > > Can someone advice me the best place to start in making a patch to the UI to > revert the 2.7 version to using the 2.6 style save dialogue. If someone would > kindly point me in the right direction of which files I need to change would >

Re: [Gimp-developer] A new

2009-09-14 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/15/2009 03:50 AM, Jenny wrote: > Hi all, > > In this Google Summer of Code season, a new detail refinement brush was done. > This page is a demo: http://sites.google.com/site/gsoc2009/result-demo > > There might still be some bug. I'd love to get any feedback from you. Hi Jenny, Thanks fo

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP, GEGL and raw image formats

2009-09-13 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/13/2009 11:21 AM, us3...@web.de wrote: > Because of the fact that GEGL provides support for some raw image > formats, I just wanna ask, whether it is planned to use this ability in GIMP > someday Hi! GIMP's product vision [1] is among other things to be a high-end photo manipulation appli

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

2009-09-12 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/13/2009 12:41 AM, Chris Moller wrote: > FWIW, a -1 from me on single window and a +1 on the existing > multi-window. Single windows are generally too cluttered up with stuff > you don't need at the moment and use screen space inefficiently. Let's clear this up once and for all: The single

Re: [Gimp-developer] Do we need different window hints for the docks and the toolbox?

2009-09-09 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/09/2009 10:56 PM, Martin Nordholts wrote: > Drc reminded me of that once upon a time the toolbox was the main > window. Since that is not the case any longer, let's get rid of > the toolbox specific hint and use the dock hint also for the toolbox. I've don

Re: [Gimp-developer] Do we need different window hints for the docks and the toolbox?

2009-09-09 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/09/2009 07:10 PM, Martin Nordholts wrote: > The commit [1] that introduced the hint concept doesn't explain why > two separate options were added. Do you remember your reasons for > doing this Sven? Drc reminded me of that once upon a time the toolbox was the main window. Sin

Re: [Gimp-developer] [PATCH] Improve brush outline for fuzzy brushes, sample screenshot included

2009-09-09 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/09/2009 09:39 PM, Steren wrote: > If you want to test-drive the look and feel, here's a flash applet > featuring various outline designs: > > http://sites.google.com/site/yahvuu/stuff/brushtester-web.lzx.swf8.swf?attredirects=0 > > This is the good approach : prototype, test and

[Gimp-developer] Do we need different window hints for the docks and the toolbox?

2009-09-09 Thread Martin Nordholts
Hi, In Edit->Preferences->Window Management you can set the window hint on the toolbox and the docks separately. Do we really need this kind of granularity? Isn't it enough to only have one window hint setting and use that for both the toolbox and the docks? I can't come up with a use case where t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Free Select tool

2009-09-09 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/09/2009 02:52 PM, Chris Moller wrote: >> if you doubleclick anywhere, the free select tool will close the >> selection with a straight line to it's starting point. >> > > Aha! I missed that! Thanks. You can also close it by pressing Return, then it will commit what you have (without t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Question on mode grouping in 2.8

2009-09-07 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/07/2009 07:49 PM, Rob Antonishen wrote: > Thanks all, for the confirmation and clarification. For reference, here is the gimp-developer thread leading up to the rearrangements: http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-developer/2008-November/thread.html#21099 / Martin -- My GIMP Blog:

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

2009-09-07 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/07/2009 07:07 PM, Shashwat wrote: > Whatever you guys do. Please make it work with KDE kwin windows manager. The > current UI doesn't work with Kwin or Compiz. You'll have to file a bug report with those window managers, there's nothing GIMP can sensibly do about them not supporting the util

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

2009-09-05 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/05/2009 06:22 PM, Richard Nespithal wrote: >> A single-window mode would also turn 2.8 into a remarkable release > is it possible, to switch back to multi-window mode in 2.8? That is not really relevant to this thread. (But yes of course it will be possible.) / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: h

[Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

2009-09-05 Thread Martin Nordholts
Hi, We are making pretty good progress towards GIMP 2.8 which has turned into an "everything but GEGL" release. I think it would make sense to also go for a single-window mode in 2.8 and not 2.10 as originally planned. By doing this we will be able to focus all resources on integrating GEGL once

Re: [Gimp-developer] [PATCH] Improve brush outline for fuzzy brushes, sample screenshot included

2009-09-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/01/2009 07:29 PM, peter sikking wrote: > Guillermo Espertino wrote: > >> what about printing a semi transparent copy of the actual brush on the >> canvas? > > exactly what I thought. Even though I think the patch made the brush outline better for fuzzy brushes, it is still not without fla

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP in-game feature

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/31/2009 09:00 PM, Bill Skaggs wrote: > Interesting -- I did a search for "Gimp trademark" and didn't find > that. But is there any evidence that "Gimp" is actually trademarked? > Unlike copyright, trademarks are not automatic -- they must be applied > for and approved. They must also be ac

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP in-game feature

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/31/2009 07:14 PM, Aurimas Juška wrote: > Hi, > >> Hold on. There seems to be confusion here. CC and GPL are not compatible, >> which would be a problem for you. And I don't have the authority to give you >> permissions to use the logo in any way, I'm not the author of it. >> > > Don't you

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP in-game feature

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/31/2009 10:30 AM, Eckhard M. Jäger wrote: > Do we get the permission promoting GIMP in TORCS-NG in general? Hi, Personally I am totally fine with you promoting GIMP and find it hard imagine anyone being against that. > Who is the author of the Wilber image located in > "/usr/share/gimp/2.

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP in-game feature

2009-08-30 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/30/2009 09:51 PM, Eckhard M. Jäger wrote: > > Hello Martin, > thanks a lot for your help, so it should be possible. > > So we have your permission too? Hi, Hold on. There seems to be confusion here. CC and GPL are not compatible, which would be a problem for you. And I don't have the aut

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP in-game feature

2009-08-30 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/30/2009 09:09 PM, Eckhard M. Jäger wrote: > > Please, can someone answer my request. Thanks. GIMP is distributed under GPL and LGPL / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF

[Gimp-developer] [PATCH] Improve brush outline for fuzzy brushes, sample screenshot included

2009-08-30 Thread Martin Nordholts
00:00:00 2001 From: Martin Nordholts Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:40:44 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] app: Improve brush outline for fuzzy brushes Use a 25% threshold instead of 0% so that we get a nicer outline for fuzzy brushes. If the 25% doesn't result in a outline at all, fallback to 0% though.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Generated Brush

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/29/2009 03:47 AM, Christopher Howard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi. Where is it in the code that generated brush hardness (and other > GimpBrushGenerated data) start getting turned into something more > concrete (something that can be painted). Hi, The para

Re: [Gimp-developer] Tags on presets.

2009-08-24 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/24/2009 06:42 PM, Alexia Death wrote: >> If you by "brush" mean "tip shape + dynamics" then I agree. I don't >> think we should use any custom format for the tip shape; PNG or SVG >> should do fine. > > Svg supports custom metadata. I see no problem in supporting a value for it. If we define

Re: [Gimp-developer] Tags on presets.

2009-08-24 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/24/2009 11:51 AM, Alexia Death wrote: > A "brush preset" is a brush + dynamics, and this is actually what the > user typically picks. If we would have tags for brush presets, we would > be one step closer to make brush options be part of the brush, so to > speak. > > > I can o

Re: [Gimp-developer] Tags on presets.

2009-08-23 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/24/2009 03:33 AM, David Gowers wrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: >> On 08/22/2009 05:48 PM, Christophe Buffenoir wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I use the GPS set of presets and I think that tags system will be good &g

Re: [Gimp-developer] Tags on presets.

2009-08-23 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/22/2009 05:48 PM, Christophe Buffenoir wrote: > Hello, > > I use the GPS set of presets and I think that tags system will be good > on presets and not only on brushes. > > Nothing is done yet, the screens are just fakes to show my purpose. But, > even if I've not enough spare time to do it qu

Re: [Gimp-developer] Need feedback for the new PDF plugin

2009-08-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/22/2009 12:27 PM, LightningIsMyName wrote: > the problem is that the linux system I use on the computer labs at > doesn't have autogen (and some other tools required for the > compilation) installed Ok but you should be able to build the GIMP 2.7.0 tarball at least, right? It has the API yo

Re: [Gimp-developer] Google Summer of Code website

2009-08-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/21/2009 10:23 PM, Eric Daoust wrote: > Hello, > > This is my Google Summer of Code website displaying the final results > of the samplers I worked on during the summer. > > http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/user/ericdaoust/gsoc > > Thanks for your time, > Eric Hi, Congratulations on

Re: [Gimp-developer] Need feedback for the new PDF plugin

2009-08-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/22/2009 11:03 AM, LightningIsMyName wrote: > I wish I could try the new branch, however I don't have a computer to > test it on with administrator rights... I need someone to package GIMP > 2.7 as a zip so I can extract and run it (The windows installer > requires administrator rights, and in

Re: [Gimp-developer] [PATCH] Remove trailing comma from enumerator list

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/21/2009 10:51 PM, Tim Harder wrote: > I ran across an erroneous comma in an enumerator list when building the > latest G'MIC plugin [1] using the 2.7.0 release. > > I couldn't find any related bug reports or fix for the problem in the > latest git tree so I've attached a patch to fix the issu

Re: [Gimp-developer] Need feedback for the new PDF plugin

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Nordholts
Hi Barak, Sorry for getting your name wrong in the previous mail! On 08/21/2009 09:32 PM, LightningIsMyName wrote: > The problem is that if I add the multiple paged PDF as an option to > the normal sace procedure we will have a problem when running the > plugin using GIMP_RUN_WITH_LAST_VALS. > Im

Re: [Gimp-developer] Need feedback for the new PDF plugin

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/21/2009 11:23 AM, LightningIsMyName wrote: > Where should I register the procedure for creating multiple paged > PDFs? I switched the plugin to use the gimp_export_dialog as part of > the new export api, but I don't know what is the correct place to > register a file saver from the menu Hi B

Re: [Gimp-developer] Need feedback for the new PDF plugin

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/20/2009 06:09 PM, LightningIsMyName wrote: > Hello, > > As requested in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382688 I > have created a PDF export plugin for GIMP. I need some feedback on it > (mainly on it's GUI) so I'm asking for it here. The plugin can be > accessed through File->Creat

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP logo license

2009-08-17 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/17/2009 11:52 AM, Jonathan Wolf wrote: > Hi, > > I've tried to get in contact with the GIMP logo author, but I haven't > been able to find a valid e-mail address. At any rate, under what > licensing terms is the GIMP logo under (in particular, does the > license already allow for usage of the

[Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.7.0

2009-08-16 Thread Martin Nordholts
We are pleased to announce the release of GIMP 2.7.0 which is the first step towards GIMP 2.8, the next stable release. Even though GEGL related work has been made, the primary focus for GIMP 2.8 is to get work not related to GEGL done. This will enable us to fully focus on GEGL once GIMP 2.8 has b

Re: [Gimp-developer] Has anybody successfully built gimp with gtk+ > 2.17.2 (mingw/windows)?

2009-08-13 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/14/2009 02:26 AM, Bug ByteMan wrote: > I know for sure that the problem I am experiencing is a result of > changes from gtk+ 2.17.2 to 2.17.3. Unfortunately I do not have it > isolated to a particular commit. Between 2.17.2 and 2.17.3 the client-side-window branch was merged to master. Wha

Re: [Gimp-developer] Has anybody successfully built gimp with gtk+ > 2.17.2 (mingw/windows)?

2009-08-13 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/13/2009 09:54 PM, BugByteMan wrote: > Hello, > > When I build gimp (mingw/windows XP) with gtk+> 2.17.2 the application > crashes as soon as I move my mouse over either the toolbox or image window. > This happens with both the stable (2.6.6 tarball) and git source. I have not > been suc

Re: [Gimp-developer] Resource tagging: future development

2009-08-13 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/13/2009 05:46 PM, Aurimas Juška wrote: > Suggestions please. What resource tagging in GIMP could be in 2.8 and > in the later versions? Hi Aurimas, Multiple-selection of resources and keeping translations within tags to allow switch language would be nice to have for 2.8. If we keep all t

Re: [Gimp-developer] [PATCH] Suggestion on how to deal with obsolete data resources

2009-08-12 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/12/2009 08:50 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 20:45 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: > >> It has already been concluded that we want to get rid of a few data >> resources for GIMP 2.8 and also that this requires a mechanism to >> suppo

Re: [Gimp-developer] Layers and possible space for performance improvement in GIMP

2009-08-12 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/12/2009 06:04 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: > Hello, > > A few days ago I was trying out Adobe Photoshop CS4 under my OS, Windows > 7 RC 64 bit, and although I prefer using GIMP even though it lacks > some very useful features, I was surprised at one thing in particular: > its speed when man

[Gimp-developer] [PATCH] Suggestion on how to deal with obsolete data resources

2009-08-11 Thread Martin Nordholts
which uses "Circle Fuzzy (11)". Any comments on the proposed way to deal with obsolete resources? / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ >From b12d3466e65c67aeb0f5cc5a444040f81dd1df23 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Martin Nordholts Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:

Re: [Gimp-developer] Patching GIMP help

2009-08-09 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/10/2009 01:12 AM, Luis Diego Alpizar Alpizar wrote: > See this http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591017 > How can i apply this patch in linux ubuntu??(i did try using man patch, > seem to work, but not sure) > i need to recompile GIMP again? (if so how without lossing the patched > fi

Re: [Gimp-developer] Is possible load a image file in a standalone app?

2009-08-05 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/06/2009 04:48 AM, qrtt1 wrote: > Hello, > > I try to load a file: > > const gchar* filename = "/home/qrtt1/Desktop/Images/IMGP5585.JPG"; > gint32 imageId = gimp_file_load(GIMP_RUN_NONINTERACTIVE, filename, > filename); > > but: > > qr...@debian:~/Desktop/galileo/workspace/gimp-plu

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp internal loop

2009-08-05 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/05/2009 04:39 PM, Radhwan Ben Madhkour wrote: > Hi, > > I want two persons to work on the "same" image at the same time but on > different pc. > > Since my last post ("tile update" on Thursday 30 July), I have had some > results. One person can open Gimp, start to draw and the changes are > s

Re: [Gimp-developer] Bug #164774

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/04/2009 01:29 AM, Christopher Howard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164774 > > Hi - I was going to look into this enhancement. It was a request to make > it possible for the user to change the zero-point of the image rule

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/04/2009 08:27 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: > Well, there have been some good arguments brought up in this thread why > saving a clean image may make sense. So perhaps we should change the > default for 'trust-dirty-flag' back to 'no' and always save the image? I was about to propose changing the

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/03/2009 11:19 PM, Jay Smith wrote: > _I_ would want my "workflow interrupted" if the program was not going to > do what I had asked it to do. Maybe that's just me. Hi Jay When you do a File -> Save you want to make sure that your changes is safely written to disk, right? If you have made

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/03/2009 11:04 PM, gg wrote: >As I said in my original post , this is not a "by the way the image > was not saved" it is an error condition what warrants an modal dialogue > and a user response. Please let's not bombard the UI with modal dialogs. They are excellent for interrupting workf

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/03/2009 09:33 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: > GIMP has done it the way you proposed in the past and copied system > resources to the user directory. This was ugly and caused lots of grief. > Eventually we got rid of this mess and now you are proposing to undo > this work and to reintroduce this ugl

Re: [Gimp-developer] CIE-LCH Color selector?

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/03/2009 05:44 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: > Can you give a rough estimate of when a color managed picking system > will be integrated into GIMP ? Making the color picker color managed has not been incorporated in any short or long term plan yet. So yeah, maybe we will get around to do it in

Re: [Gimp-developer] CIE-LCH Color selector?

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/03/2009 05:07 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: > Martin Nordholts wrote: >> Before we add support for picking device-independent colors, the whole >> color selector should be color managed, and it currently isn't. > > by > "not color managed" did you ref

Re: [Gimp-developer] CIE-LCH Color selector?

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/03/2009 10:45 AM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: > Hello, > > The last discussion about using CIE LCH for some layer modes made me > remember that there is a CIE LCH color selector plugin for GIMP that > many people would like to see included in the main GIMP distribution > sooner or later. Before w

Re: [Gimp-developer] Does "Hue", "Saturation", "Value" layer modes need HSV? How about CIE LCH instead?

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
The input I've gotten so far removed any remaining doubt about porting those layer modes to LCH, so I've done that now: commit 18603ac192493296b191197a3e2b62c710398afd Author: Martin Nordholts Date: Sun Aug 2 21:35:10 2009 +0200 Bug 401754 – Port Hue, Saturation, Value to CIE LC

Re: [Gimp-developer] XMPModel and custom signals

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/02/2009 01:50 PM, Roman Joost wrote: >> does not change the fact that it would be nice to have a >> 'property-changed' signal as a convenience if you have the need to >> listen property changes > So ... I'm just wondering. If I like to use two signals for the > XMPModel, does it still make se

Re: [Gimp-developer] Does "Hue", "Saturation", "Value" layer modes need HSV? How about CIE LCH instead?

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/02/2009 12:59 PM, David Gowers wrote: > LCH processing is definitely slower than HSV or HSL (whether optimized > or not), so this may have an impact on display update speed (and > consequently on user experience) Problems with real-time responsiveness when using LCH is a good point, and usi

Re: [Gimp-developer] Does "Hue", "Saturation", "Value" layer modes need HSV? How about CIE LCH instead?

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/02/2009 12:19 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: > Martin Nordholts wrote: > >> Does anyone see any problems with using CIE LCH instead of HSV for >> these layer modes? We can ignore backwards compatibility issues for now. > > Except for the final results, will there

[Gimp-developer] Does "Hue", "Saturation", "Value" layer modes need HSV? How about CIE LCH instead?

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
Hi, The "Color" layer mode has since long produced bad results, see bug 325564 [1] for a way to see this. The cause is a combination of rounding errors due to 8bit processing and poor properties/usage of the underlying color model HSL. I have just implemented Color based on the CIE LCH color m

Re: [Gimp-developer] XMPModel and custom signals

2009-08-01 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/31/2009 07:12 AM, Roman Joost wrote: > I could and the patch provided by that bug adds a custom > 'property-changed' signal. Sven and Mitch thought, if I inherit from > XMPModel, I wouldn't really need the 'property-changed' signal, because > I'd be able to control the 'property-changed' sign

Re: [Gimp-developer] Are there any online code browsers?

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/31/2009 07:06 PM, Emil Assarsson wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to get a grasp over the Gimp code but I think I need a > cross referenced code browser of some kind. Are there anything online? > Or can anyone suggest a better way? > I use exuberant ctags for looking up symbol definitions, and GN

Re: [Gimp-developer] XMPModel and custom signals

2009-07-30 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/28/2009 12:40 PM, Roman Joost wrote: > Hi, > > I wasn't sure if I should bring up this discussion on the mailing list > or better on the bug report > (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589474). > > I think it could be useful to subscribe to events emited by the XMPModel > (although ot

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-28 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/28/2009 03:04 AM, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: > Getting back to the start of this discussion -- > > I am in talks with the new mantainer of a very popular brazillian GIMP > comunity portal this week (Guilherme coordinating www.ogimp.com.br with > ~20.000 unique visitors a day)-- he has resources

Re: [Gimp-developer] making tool re-arrangements cancellable in the preferences dialog

2009-07-26 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/24/2009 11:07 AM, Stephen Griffiths wrote: > I am looking for some advice on how to make tool re-arrangements > cancelable in the preferences dialog. > (for http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=500930) > > the current code that resets the preferences looks like this (in > prefs-dialog):

Re: [Gimp-developer] Improved brush editing interface mock-up

2009-07-26 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/26/2009 05:45 AM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: > Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: > >> This is something that I, as an user, would like to have. >> It also seems to save some screen space when editing on a notebook >> that can do only 1024x768 too :-) > > This is a smaller version I made which shows th

Re: [Gimp-developer] FW: Improved brush editing interface mock-up

2009-07-25 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/25/2009 06:05 PM, Luis Diego Alpizar Alpizar wrote: > > This is the annotated version I sent to the GIMP UI brainstorm blog. It > > doesn't add much more than what has been already wrote in this thread > > though: > > > > http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8928/sdigimp.png > > I agree wi

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-24 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/24/2009 01:10 PM, Martin Nordholts wrote: > As convinced you are that your approach is better than mine, I'm equally > convinced my approach is better then yours. I would like to add that if the ongoing brush dynamics and tool options redesign discussions end with a solution wh

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-24 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/24/2009 12:28 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 10:33 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: > >> Whatever approach we take will require some dedicated code for managing >> system/default resources. My conclusion is that being forced to deal >>

Re: [Gimp-developer] nodockables

2009-07-24 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/24/2009 11:55 AM, gg wrote: > Hi, > > using gimp 2.6.6 I pulled the tool options dlg off the toolbox. Now it > won't dock back in. > > the space says "you can drop dockable dialogs here" but nothing happens > when I do. I remain with two independant windows. > > I was explaining to someone ov

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-07-24 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/24/2009 11:48 AM, gg wrote: > Hi, > > I added a comment to a png image and pressed Save. I was averted to the > fact it failed by the fact it was too quick (a fairly large file). > > On repeating the save to see what happened I caught a glimpse of a > subliminally fast message at the bottom o

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-24 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/24/2009 09:06 AM, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 22:07 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: > >> So, we can only add resources and tags that have never shipped with a >> previous version of GIMP to the migrated user dir. Finding this set of >>

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-23 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/23/2009 06:37 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: > I don't see how anything that was unreasonable some years ago becomes > reasonable in 2009. It was equally reasonable also some years ago. My point was that we are long past the time when hard disk space was an issue. >>> Another reason is that it be

Re: [Gimp-developer] Improved brush editing interface mock-up

2009-07-23 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/23/2009 06:17 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: > Would you like me to write more in detail and be more specific regarding > this? Absolutely, I mean why would you hold it back? BR, Martin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley

Re: [Gimp-developer] Improved brush editing interface mock-up

2009-07-23 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/23/2009 05:38 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: > Hello, > > I was about to write a rather detailed interface/feature improvement > suggestion about the brush editing feature in GIMP but then I thought > that first it would be better to show you all this (incomplete) > interface mock-up I made: Hi

Re: [Gimp-developer] How far away from watching other colorspaces in real time?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/23/2009 04:11 AM, Martin Cracauer wrote: > I use the git version of last week. Lost my tablet (probably due to > some dbus API issue) but works otherwise. > > Let me just poke some more. > > And does all this survive layer copying and other changes? > >Does current 2.7 carry floating > point

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/23/2009 12:56 AM, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 00:51 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: > >> We could either introduce a complex system to allow the user to delete >> system resources, or we could make it simple for ourselves and the user >>

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/23/2009 12:39 AM, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 12:10 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: >> On 07/20/2009 06:19 PM, Emil Assarsson wrote: >>> What I really miss is to be able to remove brushes that I don't need >>> and sort/group the o

Re: [Gimp-developer] How far away from watching other colorspaces in real time?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/23/2009 12:27 AM, Martin Cracauer wrote: > Do I understand that correctly that you will move to > single-floats/color? Yes, virtually all image processing and compositing will be performed in the linear light RGBA color space with 32 bit float depth per channel. There have been discussions

Re: [Gimp-developer] How far away from watching other colorspaces in real time?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/22/2009 11:59 PM, Martin Cracauer wrote: > Hi. > > Can somebody tell me how far away GIMP is from being able to view > manipulations that you do in a different color space in real time in > real colors? Hi, The current plan is get GIMP 2.8 out the door asap, hopefully within the next few m

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/22/2009 03:28 PM, Martin Cracauer wrote: > Speaking of brushes - brush rotation which currently requires a plugin > (which is a little painful to use as it isn't interactive) is high on > my wishlist. Brush rotation is implemented in git master and will be part of GIMP 2.7.0. / Martin ___

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/20/2009 12:36 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions on adjustments and additions to the > default set of GIMP resources? Thanks for the great feedback everyone. Summing it up, these are the current desired adjustments to the default set of resources. We

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/22/2009 12:18 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: > Martin Nordholts wrote: > >> I get your drift, but is it really reasonable to force a user to scale >> a say 250px brush to 3px if that is what he desires? It might be, but >> I don't think it is with our current scaling

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