[Gimp-user] Re: Re: rect-select: suppress 'expand from center' key or gesture shortcut
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 10:11:53 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: Thanks for confirming that it is not intentional behavior, that's all I need to hear. You misunderstood me. It is of course intentional that you don't need to use a checkbox in the tool options to do something as important as creating a rectangle from center. This has always worked by using a modifier key and it would be a regression if that wouldn't be possible with the rewritten tool. All I am saying is that the tool is not finished yet and that the current behaviour is not perfect. We really don't need to be told that since the tool is obviously not finished yet. I see. Just as well, sensible shortcuts for experts are one of the best things about GIMP, Blender, Inkscape, etc. Can you indicate what the modifier key combination is, so that I may avoid its accidental activation, and deactivate it with the same modifier keys instead of a mouseclick in the checkbox. I seem to hit it by accident from time to time. Thanks. Is the current behavior as described in this post? http://www.mail-archive.com/gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/msg11620.html 1) If you press the Shift key, while button1 is down, the tool goes into make square mode, and stays there indefinitely. Releasing the Shift key has no effect. Pressing the Shift key again toggles the tool out of make square mode. 2) If you press the Control key while button1 is down, the tool goes into expand from center mode, and the center is set to be the point at which you first pressed mouse button1. Releasing the Control key has no effect. Pressing the Control key again toggles off the expand from center option. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: RAW support
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2006-03-23 at 1856.51 +0100): It doesnt convert to 8 bits. Read more about it on the homepage: http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/ Uh? Gimp can load more than 8 bits per channel and work with that later? Since when? GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: RE : Using lab
cedric GEMY wrote: Lab is very interesting for photo retouch because Luminosity (better said Luminance) is separated from colors. According to the Wyszecki Stiles (Color Science) or to Hunt (Measuring Colour), L* is lightness, not luminance, so better said Ligntness. :P It is the most complete color model so that Photoshop uses it when you want to change the color mode. + gives more precise result. But out of that, it is much more difficult to conceive things with L*a*b. Gimp does not implement it except in the Decompose Filter. May be another thing to do :) I think this is in the scope of GEGL. However, I would be disappointed if CIELAB (L*a*b* coordinates) was in and not CIELUV (L*u*v* coordinates). The LAB are more used in printing industry and LUV in display (e.g. TV) industries, and I think Gimp is has always been more for displayed images than for printed ones... It is also easier to use. Regards, Olivier. Cedric ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Tablets and sub-pixel sampling
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2005-07-27 at 1217.16 +0200): That is an issue that has existed for a long time, Gimp uses the screen coordinates to paint. Where's the issue here? Screen coordinates is what GIMP gets delivered. It can hardly guess what you meant to draw in physical coordinates of the virtual paper. You are drawing on screen and that's it. What's your point? That it could try something better than linear interpolation so at least mouse users (or people with misconfigured tablets, which sadly seems too common latelly) would get better results. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Tablets and sub-pixel sampling
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2005-07-26 at 1658.59 +0200): Ah, thanks, now at least I know it's a real bug and not just my expectations being to high. :-) Thanks http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311603 GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Nobody does it better
Hi Tom, Perhaps I posted a similar commentary before :) Recall something? :) Here is another quick one: In PS-CS8, draw a circular selection (perfect circle), run a linear gradient across it diagonally, shrink the selection by a few pixels (say 9 pixels) and then run a reverse linear gradient across it (in the shrinked inner circle). PS-CS8 will make the four corners of the circle (east, west, north and south) pointed !!! The Gimp is not faulty in this respect. Best Asif Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:59:10 -0700 From: Tom Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: [Gimp-user] Re: Nobody does it better SNIP Those are three things I have personal experience with, at least with Gimp. :) Peace... Tom SNIP End of Gimp-user Digest, Vol 32, Issue 21 * ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Nobody does it better
Hi Tom, Perhaps I posted a similar commentary before :) Recall something? :) Here is another quick one: In PS-CS8, draw a circular selection (perfect circle), run a linear gradient across it diagonally, shrink the selection by a few pixels (say 9 pixels) and then run a reverse linear gradient across it (in the shrinked inner circle). PS-CS8 will make the four corners of the circle (east, west, north and south) pointed !!! The Gimp is not faulty in this respect. Best Asif Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:59:10 -0700 From: Tom Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: [Gimp-user] Re: Nobody does it better SNIP Those are three things I have personal experience with, at least with Gimp. :) Peace... Tom SNIP End of Gimp-user Digest, Vol 32, Issue 21 * ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Default mode for file dialog
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:30:18 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks. That did at least allow me to locate the spec again: http://www.newplanetsoftware.com/xds/ http://rox.sourceforge.net/xds.html [...] Well, for the fun of it, I've added XDS support to GIMP now. Anyone who's using ROX or any other XDS capable desktop / file manager, might want to try latest CVS and give feedback. Perhaps if the nautilus and konqueror developers get to know of this change in GIMP, they will consider to add support for XDS as well... Great! Would it be possible to put the preview in the Save dialog, though, next to the name entry? It's not possible to set the name when dragging from the toolbox, so everything ends up being called 'Untitled' :-( Thanks, -- Dr Thomas Leonard http://rox.sourceforge.net tal at ecs.soton.ac.uk tal197 at users.sourceforge.net GPG: 9242 9807 C985 3C07 44A6 8B9A AE07 8280 59A5 3CC1 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Re: Default mode for file dialog
Hi, Thomas Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Great! Would it be possible to put the preview in the Save dialog, though, next to the name entry? It's not possible to set the name when dragging from the toolbox, so everything ends up being called 'Untitled' :-( That is something that only the GTK+ developers can do. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Re: Default mode for file dialog
Hi, Thomas Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's not possible to set the name when dragging from the toolbox, so everything ends up being called 'Untitled' :-( Actually this is something that surprised me about XDS. It doesn't specify how to handle untitled documents. I was expecting that if I don't set a leafname as content of the XdndDirectSave0 property, that the file-manager I am dragging the image to would ask me for the filename. I had it implemented that way first but rox-filer gave me an error message: XdndDirectSave0 target provided, but the atom XdndDirectSave0 (type text/plain) did not contain a leafname I have thus changed the XDS code in GIMP to always provide a leafname, using Untitled.xcf if no other name has been set. The XDS spec could need a few changes, clarifications. It would be nice if the empty leafname would be accepted and it would also be nice if the spec was more clear about the filename encoding. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: WIP animation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2005-01-31 at 0445.16 +0100): GSR, what i want is the functionality that oekakis have, and also some paint programs, a way to see the development of a painting. It's very usefull for artists to see how others paint, they can learn just watching. And is a great way for sharing techniques. Oh, yeah, I have seen some archives of recorded images (opencanvas or dogwaffle, dunno now, it was time ago). Recording a video is an extreme solution, but easy to do. It also has one adventage over a finished stroke method (= undo / redo): you see the timing of the strokes, if the artist does something faster than other part, stops to think something, changes zoom levels, does something wrong and fixes it, does something in the dialogs... I have some of 3D and 2D apps around, which I found pretty useful, more than just things appearing in the screen, last one I got is: http://www.area-56.de/tutorials/goro_jungle_tut.avi Main disadvantage of videos is the size but as compensation it is more like watching the artist in reality. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: gimp 2.0 woes - screenshots, text, and interface
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-12-23 at 1051.59 -0500): I wonder how having to crop, specially if you want it pixel perfect, is faster. Well, cropping is prolly much faster than killing the wm, editing .xinitrc, restarting the wm, etc. for a casual screenshot. Tried E-ScreenShoot (an epplet)? E based app if what you want is casual screenshots. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Re: gimp 2.0 woes - screenshots, text, and interface
On Thu 23 Dec 04, 5:41 PM, GSR - FR [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-12-23 at 1051.59 -0500): I wonder how having to crop, specially if you want it pixel perfect, is faster. Well, cropping is prolly much faster than killing the wm, editing .xinitrc, restarting the wm, etc. for a casual screenshot. Tried E-ScreenShoot (an epplet)? E based app if what you want is casual screenshots. GSR Holy moley. I was only vaguely aware that enlightenment had epplets, but didn't know much about them. What's really wierd is that the Debian epplet package is simply called epplets, and anything to denote its relationship to enlightenment, like enlightenment-epplets, so 'dpkg -l *enlightenment*' won't show its existence. Worse, the enlightenment package neither recommends nor suggests epplets. How wierd! Thanks for the suggestion! Pete (wy off topic, so I'll just be quiet now) ;) -- The mathematics of physics has become ever more abstract, rather than more complicated. The mind of God appears to be abstract but not complicated. He also appears to like group theory. -- Tony Zee's Fearful Symmetry GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Re: gimp 2.0 woes - screenshots, text, and interface
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-12-23 at 1309.48 -0500): Holy moley. I was only vaguely aware that enlightenment had epplets, but didn't know much about them. I thought it shipped with some directly or as related package. What's really wierd is that the Debian epplet package is simply called epplets, and anything to denote its relationship to enlightenment, like enlightenment-epplets, so 'dpkg -l *enlightenment*' won't show its existence. apt-cache search enlightenment reports epplets. ;] But yeah, it could be listed in suggestions or recommendations. On a side note #e did not seem really colaborative about what is going on inside E to cause that side effect. I found some old posts about other apps having issues capturing while E is running, so it does not seem to have catched enough interest on their side: http://www.swarm.org/pipermail/support/2001-June/010688.html Maybe you could fill a bug in debian about this and hope that gets more attention (or an explanation about why fails, E should be EWMH compliant by now, but all the some workspaces work sounds rare). GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Re: selection coordination
Do you have dimensions already calculated or something? Otherwise I still fail to see how guessing three numbers is better than zooming and visually placing a fixed selection alone or with help of a guide (one of the two I would use for the center of the circle, ie) or a manual one with two parallel guides. Well, I dunno your workflow, I managed to do a stretched circle quickly without coords. And maybe what you really need is a chop and bridge script. ;] GSR ok ok you win what about a auto guide installer into middle of selection vertical or horizontal script :) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: How to get rid of OK Cancel Reset images on buttons?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-11-11 at 2157.35 +0200): I haven't figured out so far how to use your fix to remove OK, Cancel, Reset, and Save icons from buttons though. I tried adding it to gtkrc and imagerc in all locations, overwriting existing image related entries in gtkrc with this. Maybe there's something like stock[gtk-button-cancel] ... etc. that I need to add there using this as a template? (I don't know these stock image variables) Yes, that was removed, it was in the big snip part, there are many items. The ones you want are probably gtk-ok, gtk-cancel and gimp-reset (quick look into the list I have) but you will probably still get other buttons with icons. As it is done, you have to define every icon, without exceptions. The complete file is 40K, another of similar size for the parts that have icon. In total, it makes a 100K or so, plus images (it is a gimp theme experiment atm). I used gtk+'s gle module (from cvs, months ago) to go inspecting everything, and also checking source files from gimp and gtk+ libs to figure all the names. This is why I ask if there is another way, cos all those things were many afternoons of figuring things. It is easy to understand people think doing themes can be hard, as soon as you are not just over painting icons, it can get complex fast. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] RE;Re;install probs
Bandit Pat wrote, Winton, I'm no Mandrake expert by any means, but this error sounds like you are missing some needed GTK+ files. I suspect MDK 10 only installed the Gnome files needed to run most programs, but didn't some that Gimp needed. Just a guess, not certain. I would think when trying to install, it would give you more details though. What you might try is to install the rpm from a shell with: rpm -Uhv gimp-2.0.0-Richard.1mdk.i586.rpm If there are unmet dependencies or conflicts, they will show there. Hi all, thanks BanditPat, I will try to install from a shell, its about time I learned a bit, but in the mean time have solved install probs without changing distributions, am running a copy of Knoppix 3.4 which has Gimp 2 on it, when I want to use Gimp2. No install required, and no distro change either. Easy solution for those of us who have no idea of how to fix any install probs. Take Care Winton ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Blur plug-in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-06-07 at 1649.35 +0200): Sorry, but what other scripts or plug-ins are you referring to? IMO it would be a good thing to have a simple and fast plug-in that does the job w/o a dialog and I fail to see what other plug-in would provide this functionality. Convolution matrix, and there are scripts floating around that give matrix presets. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Re: Blur plug-in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-06-07 at 1759.17 +0200): calling the convolution matrix plug in and scripts to preset it a simple replacement ? Well, what would you call a script that just puts a menu entry and calls convolution matrix with a fixed matrix? Please rephrase that to a powerful replacement that can be used by the more then average(new) gimp user. Would this mean having a script-fu menu entry fill convolution matrix for : blur/sharpen/edge detect etc. Those already exists. The ones I got have some extra controls, but nothing disallows making no dialog versions. 2. when using the randomize option the preview makes no real sense since by nature you'll never get twice the same result. Depends how the code is done, using pseudo random and taking into account 2d coord it should provide repeatable results. 4. If a bigger blur is needed use the gausian blur instead of repeating. They are different things, though, box vs guassian. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Re: GIMP 2.0 for Mandrake 10?
Thanks to the both of you for your help and suggestions!! Richard ;-)~ Joao S. O. Bueno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I am not quite following this thread, but I am afraid you really got stuck in a storm in a glass of water,as we say in my country. The fact is that the GIMP 2.0 can be installed in an -almost- out of the box mandrake 9.2 and, of course, 10.0 You probably just missed a step somewere or the other. If you are willing to compile the GIMP, downlaod the GIMP source, run install, not down what is it complaining about, and install these packages with the URPMI command. All the needed packages are pre-compiled binaries included in the Mandrake CD-ROMs, but some are not instaleld by default. After a fresh install, the URPMI command is setup to automatically fetch packages AND dependencies from you mandrake CD's. Just for being on the sfe side, install also the devel packages of everything you need to install. These are also in the CDROMs. For example, if you need Pango, check with urpmi - y pango what packages are avalilable taht contain pango, install pango and pango*devel with the urpmi command. Alternatively, if you want just to run the GIMP and not compile it, you may get an RPM pre compiled in a Mandrake COOKER mirror on the web (mandrake cooker is roughly equivalent to Debian Unstable) The cooker mirro list is at: http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 and check tehre for a gimp2 rpm. For example, the URL ftp://mandrake.contactel.cz/Mandrake-devel/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/gimp2_0-2.0.1-1mdk.i586.rpm has got an rpm file that most likely will install on a fresh mandrake 10 system. Sorry for not coming to your aid before you had so much work. Regards, JS -- On Tuesday 18 May 2004 08:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 22:18:58 -0700 From: Richard McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Gimp-user] Re: Re: GIMP 2.0 for Mandrake 10? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message: 1 Milan Knizek wrote: 1) Set up your urpmi using http://www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php 2) install gimp2 using rpmdrake or urpmi Regards, Helge Hi Helge, I'm sorry I have no idea what I'm supposed to do here. Hi Richard, you can either use rpmdrake (section Media manager - Add new - it is selfexplanatory; then go to Install and try to look the gimp2 package) or go to console - and do the same thing using urpmi - it is the best to read man urpmi. You will need to add new media and then install. I have not checked whether gimp2 is available at the location above, however, this is a general way how to work with urpmi. Milan Thanks for the info Milan but NO I do not know how to set up RPMDrake or work from a console to that extent, I primarilly work from WinXP Pro. I did download the main GIMP 2.01 tar.gz and in the install notes it says there are about 7 other files I need to download and install the following files: 1. You need to have installed a recent version of pkg-config available from http://www.freedesktop.org/software/pkgconfig/. 2. You need to have installed GTK+ version 2.2.2 or better. Do not try to use an older GTK+ version (1.2.x), it will not work. GTK+-2.2 itself needs recent versions of GLib, Pango and ATK. Sources for these can be grabbed from ftp://ftp.gtk.org/. GTK+-2.x and friends can be installed side by side with GTK+-1.2. 3. We require PangoFT2, a Pango backend that uses FreeType2. Make sure you have FreeType2 and fontconfig installed before you compile Pango. FreeType2 can be downloaded from http://www.freetype.org/. Fontconfig from http://x2.freedesktop.org/software/fontconfig. 4. We use libart2. Grab the module libart_lgpl out of GNOME CVS or fetch the tarball from ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/libart_lgpl/ 5. You may want to install other third party libraries or programs that are needed for some of the available plugins. We recommend to check that the following libraries are installed: libpng, libjpeg, libtiff, gimp-print (4.2.x), gtkhtml-2, libmng, librsvg, libwmf. That's just nuts. I guess I will have to wait untill someone actually takes the time to build an RPM for Mandrake, I just don't have the sort of patience. It's bad enough that Linux doesn't have much to offer in the way of graphic apps that can do high end professional work but to have one of the only ones so hard to 'put together' I can't deal with that right now. I'm impressed with Mandrake 10 so far but graphics are one of the main things I do on a computer, so I guess it's back to Windows, not really complaining, I just don't get too upset much any more. Maybe in another 5 or 10 years this OS will win me over
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: GIMP 2.0 for Mandrake 10?
OK, I need some help. Out of curiosity I downloaded ALL the needed files. 14 in all, 45Mb's total. I would appreciated some help in the ORDER in which to install these files, pretty please GTK+ libart (tar.tar) Pango gimp-print GtkHTML Library (tar.tar) libjpeg (tar.tar) libpng libtiff AA-lib libexif libmng libRSVG libwmf There was one that I could not find and I know how to scour the web pretty good when I want to: Font Configuration Library So if anyone has the most up to date version of this one, a link please. Most of these files, including gimp-2.0.1.tar.gz are all in tar.gz format except for the 3 files with a 'tar.tar' extention and I'm not at all sure how easy these will be to open up. I know it's going to be REAL fun doing this little project but now I'm commited so please lend a hand!! :-) Richard ;-)~ Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Hi, : : Richard McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : : I did download the main GIMP 2.01 tar.gz and in the install notes it : says there are about 7 other files I need to download and install : the following files: : : [snip] : : That's just nuts. I guess I will have to wait untill someone : actually takes the time to build an RPM for Mandrake, I just don't : have the sort of patience. : : Right, that's also what INSTALL suggests. Unless you are experienced : with building software from scratch, you shouldn't try to get GIMP's : dependencies built from source. Actually you should even try to avoid : building GIMP from source. : : It's bad enough that Linux doesn't have much to offer in the way of : graphic apps that can do high end professional work but to have one : of the only ones so hard to 'put together' I can't deal with that : right now. : : I'm impressed with Mandrake 10 so far but graphics are one of the : main things I do on a computer, so I guess it's back to Windows, not : really complaining, I just don't get too upset much any more. Maybe : in another 5 or 10 years this OS will win me over but in the mean : time I have work to do, over in Windows! : : Well, Mandrake appears to be the only major Linux distribution that is : not yet offering a convenient way to install GIMP 2.0. So perhaps : instead of complaining, consider to use a different distribution. : : : Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Re: GIMP 2.0 for Mandrake 10?
Hi, I am not quite following this thread, but I am afraid you really got stuck in a storm in a glass of water,as we say in my country. The fact is that the GIMP 2.0 can be installed in an -almost- out of the box mandrake 9.2 and, of course, 10.0 You probably just missed a step somewere or the other. If you are willing to compile the GIMP, downlaod the GIMP source, run install, not down what is it complaining about, and install these packages with the URPMI command. All the needed packages are pre-compiled binaries included in the Mandrake CD-ROMs, but some are not instaleld by default. After a fresh install, the URPMI command is setup to automatically fetch packages AND dependencies from you mandrake CD's. Just for being on the sfe side, install also the devel packages of everything you need to install. These are also in the CDROMs. For example, if you need Pango, check with urpmi - y pango what packages are avalilable taht contain pango, install pango and pango*devel with the urpmi command. Alternatively, if you want just to run the GIMP and not compile it, you may get an RPM pre compiled in a Mandrake COOKER mirror on the web (mandrake cooker is roughly equivalent to Debian Unstable) The cooker mirro list is at: http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 and check tehre for a gimp2 rpm. For example, the URL ftp://mandrake.contactel.cz/Mandrake-devel/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/gimp2_0-2.0.1-1mdk.i586.rpm has got an rpm file that most likely will install on a fresh mandrake 10 system. Sorry for not coming to your aid before you had so much work. Regards, JS -- On Tuesday 18 May 2004 08:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 22:18:58 -0700 From: Richard McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Gimp-user] Re: Re: GIMP 2.0 for Mandrake 10? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message: 1 Milan Knizek wrote: 1) Set up your urpmi using http://www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php 2) install gimp2 using rpmdrake or urpmi Regards, Helge Hi Helge, I'm sorry I have no idea what I'm supposed to do here. Hi Richard, you can either use rpmdrake (section Media manager - Add new - it is selfexplanatory; then go to Install and try to look the gimp2 package) or go to console - and do the same thing using urpmi - it is the best to read man urpmi. You will need to add new media and then install. I have not checked whether gimp2 is available at the location above, however, this is a general way how to work with urpmi. Milan Thanks for the info Milan but NO I do not know how to set up RPMDrake or work from a console to that extent, I primarilly work from WinXP Pro. I did download the main GIMP 2.01 tar.gz and in the install notes it says there are about 7 other files I need to download and install the following files: 1. You need to have installed a recent version of pkg-config available from http://www.freedesktop.org/software/pkgconfig/. 2. You need to have installed GTK+ version 2.2.2 or better. Do not try to use an older GTK+ version (1.2.x), it will not work. GTK+-2.2 itself needs recent versions of GLib, Pango and ATK. Sources for these can be grabbed from ftp://ftp.gtk.org/. GTK+-2.x and friends can be installed side by side with GTK+-1.2. 3. We require PangoFT2, a Pango backend that uses FreeType2. Make sure you have FreeType2 and fontconfig installed before you compile Pango. FreeType2 can be downloaded from http://www.freetype.org/. Fontconfig from http://x2.freedesktop.org/software/fontconfig. 4. We use libart2. Grab the module libart_lgpl out of GNOME CVS or fetch the tarball from ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/libart_lgpl/ 5. You may want to install other third party libraries or programs that are needed for some of the available plugins. We recommend to check that the following libraries are installed: libpng, libjpeg, libtiff, gimp-print (4.2.x), gtkhtml-2, libmng, librsvg, libwmf. That's just nuts. I guess I will have to wait untill someone actually takes the time to build an RPM for Mandrake, I just don't have the sort of patience. It's bad enough that Linux doesn't have much to offer in the way of graphic apps that can do high end professional work but to have one of the only ones so hard to 'put together' I can't deal with that right now. I'm impressed with Mandrake 10 so far but graphics are one of the main things I do on a computer, so I guess it's back to Windows, not really complaining, I just don't get too upset much any more. Maybe in another 5 or 10 years this OS will win me over but in the mean time I have work to do, over
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Re: GIMP 2.0 for Mandrake 10?
Hiya Dave, Where do I get pre built binaries for Mandrake 10?? I wanted to check up on the Gimp.org but it's been down for the last 3 days. I run Mozilla here on Windows XP and Mandrake 10 and both sides are not letting me in. Also tried out IE and Konquorer, same thing. Sites down so I can't check up on anything and no one is giving me any feed back on the status of the site so far! :-( Wrote Sven and asked and wrote the WinGIMP Yahoo group and asked, nada!!! :-( So if you know where I can obtain a prebuilt binary and if you know what all I will have to install along with it then please link me up. Many thanks Richard ;-)~ Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Hi Richard, : : Richard McCormick wrote: : Out of curiosity I downloaded ALL the needed files. 14 in all, 45Mb's : total. : : Ouch... It might have been easier to download bre-built binaries. I'm : assuming that you're talking about having downloaded these from Tor's : site - in which case, there's an installer linked from that page. This : might have been an easier path to take. In any case, good luck :) : : I would appreciated some help in the ORDER in which to install these : files, pretty please : : If these are prebuilt binaries, then the order doesn't matter, you jkust : need to install all of them. However, if you're starting from source, : then there are a few groups : : Group 1: external libs, depend on nothing: : libjpeg (tar.tar) : libpng : libtiff : AA-lib : libexif : libmng : libRSVG : libwmf : libart (tar.tar) : : Group 2: Should be installed in order. This gets you all you need to : build the GIMP. : freetype2 : fontconfig : glib : atk : Pango : GTK+ : : Group 3: Optional libraries for the GIMP (for printing and a help browser) : : gimp-print : GtkHTML Library (tar.tar) : PyGTK (for python-fu) : : Group 4: The GIMP and some very useful plug-ins : gimp : gimp-gap : gimp-freetype : gimp-perl : refocus : : There was one that I could not find and I know how to scour the web : pretty good when I want to: : : Font Configuration Library : : Check freedesktop.org. Look for fontconfig. : : Most of these files, including gimp-2.0.1.tar.gz are all in tar.gz : format except for the 3 files with a 'tar.tar' extention and I'm not at : all sure how easy these will be to open up. : : Try tar, sometimes browsers helpfully uncompress .tgz files during the : download, and add a .tar extension at the end of the uncompressed file. : : I know it's going to be REAL fun doing this little project but now I'm : commited so please lend a hand!! :-) : : Good luck. : : Cheers, : Dave. : : -- : David Neary : Phenix Engineering : 110 ave Jean Jaures, 69007 Lyon ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: GIMP 2.0 for Mandrake 10?
Hi, Richard McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did download the main GIMP 2.01 tar.gz and in the install notes it says there are about 7 other files I need to download and install the following files: [snip] That's just nuts. I guess I will have to wait untill someone actually takes the time to build an RPM for Mandrake, I just don't have the sort of patience. Right, that's also what INSTALL suggests. Unless you are experienced with building software from scratch, you shouldn't try to get GIMP's dependencies built from source. Actually you should even try to avoid building GIMP from source. It's bad enough that Linux doesn't have much to offer in the way of graphic apps that can do high end professional work but to have one of the only ones so hard to 'put together' I can't deal with that right now. I'm impressed with Mandrake 10 so far but graphics are one of the main things I do on a computer, so I guess it's back to Windows, not really complaining, I just don't get too upset much any more. Maybe in another 5 or 10 years this OS will win me over but in the mean time I have work to do, over in Windows! Well, Mandrake appears to be the only major Linux distribution that is not yet offering a convenient way to install GIMP 2.0. So perhaps instead of complaining, consider to use a different distribution. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: GIMP 2.0 for Mandrake 10?
Milan Knizek wrote: 1) Set up your urpmi using http://www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php 2) install gimp2 using rpmdrake or urpmi Regards, Helge Hi Helge, I'm sorry I have no idea what I'm supposed to do here. Hi Richard, you can either use rpmdrake (section Media manager - Add new - it is selfexplanatory; then go to Install and try to look the gimp2 package) or go to console - and do the same thing using urpmi - it is the best to read man urpmi. You will need to add new media and then install. I have not checked whether gimp2 is available at the location above, however, this is a general way how to work with urpmi. Milan Thanks for the info Milan but NO I do not know how to set up RPMDrake or work from a console to that extent, I primarilly work from WinXP Pro. I did download the main GIMP 2.01 tar.gz and in the install notes it says there are about 7 other files I need to download and install the following files: 1. You need to have installed a recent version of pkg-config available from http://www.freedesktop.org/software/pkgconfig/. 2. You need to have installed GTK+ version 2.2.2 or better. Do not try to use an older GTK+ version (1.2.x), it will not work. GTK+-2.2 itself needs recent versions of GLib, Pango and ATK. Sources for these can be grabbed from ftp://ftp.gtk.org/. GTK+-2.x and friends can be installed side by side with GTK+-1.2. 3. We require PangoFT2, a Pango backend that uses FreeType2. Make sure you have FreeType2 and fontconfig installed before you compile Pango. FreeType2 can be downloaded from http://www.freetype.org/. Fontconfig from http://x2.freedesktop.org/software/fontconfig. 4. We use libart2. Grab the module libart_lgpl out of GNOME CVS or fetch the tarball from ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/libart_lgpl/ 5. You may want to install other third party libraries or programs that are needed for some of the available plugins. We recommend to check that the following libraries are installed: libpng, libjpeg, libtiff, gimp-print (4.2.x), gtkhtml-2, libmng, librsvg, libwmf. That's just nuts. I guess I will have to wait untill someone actually takes the time to build an RPM for Mandrake, I just don't have the sort of patience. It's bad enough that Linux doesn't have much to offer in the way of graphic apps that can do high end professional work but to have one of the only ones so hard to 'put together' I can't deal with that right now. I'm impressed with Mandrake 10 so far but graphics are one of the main things I do on a computer, so I guess it's back to Windows, not really complaining, I just don't get too upset much any more. Maybe in another 5 or 10 years this OS will win me over but in the mean time I have work to do, over in Windows! Thanks for the time you took to try to explain things to me, minimally but that's OK. I've wasted too many nights pulling out my hair over this stuff. I'm an artist not techie person. If I can't install a workable version of a needed piece of software without all this extra work then it's nice to know I have choices on another plateform. Cheers Richard ;-) ---Wolff On The Prowl--- ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: What was used to create this graphic?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-05-11 at 0951.52 -0400): There is a simpler way: select a one pixel column in the left, just near the text then scale it horizontaly. Faster than pasting. :] Sounds great! How do you stretch it? As simple as scale tool (and rotate tool rotates when you need it! ;] ). Work zoomed and/or use the numerical input. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: more GIMP foundation stuff
Michael Schumacher wrote: Daniel Rogers wrote: Daniel Rogers wrote: So, I noticed the resounding silence surrounding this thread. Is anyone still interested in a foundation? I went into this foundation thing thinking I had support from the community. I cannot do this all by myself. The Foundation is about getting involved. If noone wishes to get involved, then there is nothing left I can do. Well, I started to read the bylaws and was overwhelmed a bit. Being totally unfamiliar with stuff like this, I found it a bit too much to read, comprehend and evaluate in one week... maybe this happened to others as well? Ah, well. . .err, um. Fair enough. I forget that I've been stewing in this stuff for month. Most of this is boiler plate and echos the laws that we are required to follow anyway. If anyone is overwhelmed by any bit of it, it is just fine to discuss what you want in normal person terms. I need to appoint an initial board, whose job will be to set up a membership system, start collecting members, and allow those members to vote in a non-interim board (any takers?) To be a little more clear: I need volunteers to be an initial board of directors. Might be an important question: does one have to live in the US to be able to become a director? (and/or president, secreatary, treasurer, ...) No. As I think I mentioned before you don't need to live in the US or even have to be 18 (though you have a hard time entering contracts if you are less then 18 so 18 is a practical requirement). It gets complicated if TGF tries to employ non-us people (though it can be done), however the directors should probably not be compensated anyway. And to clarify: there are two structures that must exist in a corporation. There is the board of the directors, which make general descsions, are voted in by the members, can enter contracts, hire people, and delagate tasks to others. The number of directors as well as the amount of directors that qualify as a quorum and the percentage that qualifies as a majority can all be set in the bylaws. The second structure is the officers. These are the people like the president, tresurer, and secratary. The duties of these officers are set in the bylaws. The president usually is respnosible for hiring and the day to day activities of the corporation. The tresurer is in charge of the finances. The secretary records the minutes of the board meetings. The board members can be officers and are generally appointed by the board. The president or the secretary can not be same person as the tresurer. -- Dan ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Re: Re: Re: Monitor for Gimp
Hi, On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 15:00, GSR - FR wrote: Some time ago I had the same problem than you: I went from default config (or lack of it) to something reasonable (or at least try). Yes, of course, my interface changed at first, so I compensated it but did not go back to unconfigured state. Since, when I have changed video card or monitor, I just had to check their settings, not change the interface all over again. That is what makes it desirable, two properly adjusted hardware sets will give a similar look. So would it be possible to do a quick tutorial on how to adjust the gamma of ones videocard/monitor combination? If yes, I think it would be nice to have such a tutorial on www.gimp.org. Sincerely, Brix -- Henrik Brix Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Re: Re: Monitor for Gimp
Hi, David Burren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does that description clear up anything for you? Yes, that was a very helpful explanation. Thanks a lot. Lack of support for this stuff in the Gimp et. al. is the main reason I moved to Macs (I have an IT background, but these days work as a professional photographer). I haven't given up the Gimp entirely yet, but its getting less and less use over time. Since we have display filter modules in GIMP 2.0 and there's a color proof display filter module already, it's probably less than an hour work to add a display filter that uses lcms to color-correct for the monitor. The only issue with this is that display filters are not yet nicely integrated into the workflow. You have to manually select them for every display you open. This is something that I'd like to see improved for GIMP-2.2. If there was a standard on where to look for the monitor ICC profile and such, that would certainly make things easier. There's a newly created mailing-list on freedesktop.org that deals with this stuff. If you want to join this list, please see http://pdx.freedesktop.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openicc Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Re: Re: Monitor for Gimp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-04-01 at 0908.53 +1000): Xfree86 implements LUT manipulation through a X extension, but only allows you to set a gamma for red, green, and blue (it generates the LUT values internally). The basic commandline interface to this is xgamma, and KDE/etc have added their own versions. I got in IRC a small code snipet that allows full modification, it inverts the colours so I think it should be possible to load any other curve you can think of, if it is per channel. The standard monitor that is modelled by the sRGB colour space (which is meant to describe the average [well-adjusted] PC monitor, and is specified as the default colour space of the web) happens to have a gamma of 2.2 (as well as a white colour of 6500K and a bunch of other details). Most monitors I have found were not 2.2. Only last one is 2.2, and when sRGB preset. This small detail is what I think has caused lots of problems, people knew their monitor was designed to be pluged in a 50Hz socket, or 60, or auto select among both, but not what colour config was provided by it and the video card (and probably do not understand it anyway). GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Re: Re: Monitor for Gimp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-03-31 at 2350.03 +0200): Let try sorter: the question was do you consider global gamma adjustment useful at all? and the reply was yes, not only useful but a basic. Well, I sortof find it distracting to have the user interface gamma corrected. If I set a reasonable gamma value on my X server, things look washed out and pale. Is that really desirable? Some time ago I had the same problem than you: I went from default config (or lack of it) to something reasonable (or at least try). Yes, of course, my interface changed at first, so I compensated it but did not go back to unconfigured state. Since, when I have changed video card or monitor, I just had to check their settings, not change the interface all over again. That is what makes it desirable, two properly adjusted hardware sets will give a similar look. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re : [Gimp-user] Re: Re: Re: Monitor for Gimp
Le 31.03.2004 22:29, John Culleton a écrit : On Wednesday 31 March 2004 01:34 pm, GSR - FR wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-03-31 at 2011.13 +0200): [.. destructive compression ..] I am busy window shopping on Ebay etc. If the monitor has an adjustment for color temperature is that the equivalent of adjustable gamma? Or are they different parameters? No, it is an other thing. There are 4 important parameters: - white point and black point, both are adjusted with brightness and contrast settings - colour temperature: a tungstene light has a colour temperature of about 3200K, a flash lamp gives you a colour temperature of about 5500K, sunny daylight is about 6500K. With high colour temperatures, the colour cast is blueish, with low colout temperature, it is redish. Normal office work dispaly uses color temperature as high as 9300K. For photography, 6500K is better. - gamma : this is the non linear function transfer of the brightness given by the display as a function of the pixel value. -- - Jean-Luc -- John Culleton pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Re: Re: Monitor for Gimp
On Wednesday 31 March 2004 03:52 pm, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: Le 31.03.2004 22:29, John Culleton a écrit : On Wednesday 31 March 2004 01:34 pm, GSR - FR wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-03-31 at 2011.13 +0200): [.. destructive compression ..] I am busy window shopping on Ebay etc. If the monitor has an adjustment for color temperature is that the equivalent of adjustable gamma? Or are they different parameters? No, it is an other thing. There are 4 important parameters: - white point and black point, both are adjusted with brightness and contrast settings - colour temperature: a tungstene light has a colour temperature of about 3200K, a flash lamp gives you a colour temperature of about 5500K, sunny daylight is about 6500K. With high colour temperatures, the colour cast is blueish, with low colout temperature, it is redish. Normal office work dispaly uses color temperature as high as 9300K. For photography, 6500K is better. - gamma : this is the non linear function transfer of the brightness given by the display as a function of the pixel value. So how do I determine which monitors, if any can have adjustable Gamma? BTW I specified 3.0 gamma in my XF86Config file but I can spot no difference in the test files. So my current Orion monitor (17) does not seem to adjust. -- - Jean-Luc -- John Culleton -- John Culleton Able Typesetters and Indexers http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Re: Re: Monitor for Gimp
Hi, GSR - FR [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let try sorter: the question was do you consider global gamma adjustment useful at all? and the reply was yes, not only useful but a basic. Well, I sortof find it distracting to have the user interface gamma corrected. If I set a reasonable gamma value on my X server, things look washed out and pale. Is that really desirable? Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Re: Re: Monitor for Gimp
Just in case this wasn't clear in my last message, I'll expand on a few points. You can implement either or both of calibration and profiling. Having systems calibrated to a common standard means that you don't _have_ to worry about ICC profiles etc IF ALL YOU'RE DEALING WITH IS RGB DATA IN THE COLOUR SPACE REPRESENTED BY THAT CALIBRATION. Thus with the Gimp in its current form, calibration is important (it's the only thing available!). But if you want _accurate_ colour you need to implement profile support (e.g. building on top of lcms) including dynamic conversion from an image's colour space to the display system's profile. With full profile support it doesn't matter what the user's system is calibrated to (e.g. weirdarse 1.8 gamma). If an image's data is in sRGB the colours will get converted so that what is displayed on the screen is accurate, even though sRGB has a gamma of 2.2. My systems are calibrated to a gamma close to 2.2, and I can view images in ColorMatch RGB (which has a gamma of 1.8) with no problems as the profile conversion takes care of that for me.. Calibration benefits the non-colour-managed applications, but with only limited usefulness. Mac and Windows systems implement both calibration and profiling in an attempt to serve both CM and non-CM applications (and the calibration can help ensure the system is in a reasonable state prior to profiling). Full profile support is important because the colour response of your inkjet printer, scanner, printing press, etc will probably not match that of your calibrated system, and for accurate work you need a profile describing the colour space of each and to convert between them as required. I'll shut up for now. ;) Cheers __ David Burren ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: setting Dynamic text colour
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2003-11-11 at 2253.16 +): I got the idea, I found out I can pick the colour with colour picker, select dynamic text, hit the colour button in the dynamic text dialog drag the colour directly from the colour picker to the dynamic text colour selector. Did you tried dragging _to_ the colour button? You should, if you only use the dynamic text colour selector as target, not as tweaker. :] GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: RGB to BGR script works, but how to run autolevels?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2003-08-30 at 2021.33 -0400): I might very well file a bug asking for an auto levels script-fu, I'm just really surprized there isn't something available already! And yes, I've definately been browsing/searching for stuff, otherwise I'd have gotten stuck and not gotten anything done. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119233 GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: RGB to BGR script works, but how to run autolevels?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2003-08-31 at 0310.49 -0300): http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119233 Yeah, found it too before your mail. Could someone please do the honors? :-) Sven added a comment today. Maybe when you get this mail it already got in (with the slow mailing list, probably, at least before the list copy arrives :] ). GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: tool-config cannot be saved
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2002-11-12 at 1812.52 +0100): Development versions are released so people can help find the problems, not blindly complain. and who defines what a so called problem is? i cannot remember toblindly complain about things, i just told my thoughts as a gimp user in a gimp-user mailinglist - thats all. Investigation and debugging do. Later you checked the console (that is another mail I got now), but firstly you did not considerer not implemented yet. From your mail: ---8--- i wonder how i can save my tool-seetings, for example for move etc. - i hit the save-button, but each time i reload the gimp, default settings are used, my settings are not restored. ---8--- Running from a console is good thing, as is being able to run a debugger or at least get stack traces. Also being able to poke inside the code helps. Patches fixing the problem help even more. If you do not feel happy with all that, use 1.2 and wait until 1.4 is released, or 1.3 is announced to be in the final phase. Currently 1.3 is in constant change, so what works today can stop working for some days. Font tool has been in that state for some time, ie, and now it is not finished either. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Problems with layer masks...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2002-11-08 at 1652.12 +): I forgot to say that I use gnome 1.4 and sawfish. Is this the case you're referring to in your message? Could be. The real thing is to open the config tool or documentation, and see if there is any Alt+Click in it (probably there is). GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Re: Transparency
Juliet == Juliet Jennifer Mari R [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juliet Hello to the TIFF recomender, Guess you have an enourmous Juliet disk space available, usually people cannot afford store Juliet images in TIFF format... we have to cope with jpg and Juliet gifs. As Joel said, if your are working for *print* save as TIFF. He didn't say put the TIFF on the web site. My raw scans are all TIFF and are archived on CD that way, sometimes with the GIMP XCF files on the same CD. Juliet The IE5 supports transparency in pictures very well, Juliet that's the informaton stored within the graphic :) try a Juliet gif format and u may smile. Yes, and that was also his recommendation. *GIF* is a lowest-common-denominator format for transparency. IE5 breaks on PNGs with transparency. Try it. roland -- PGP Key ID: 66 BC 3B CD Roland B. Roberts, PhD RL Enterprises [EMAIL PROTECTED] 76-15 113th Street, Apt 3B [EMAIL PROTECTED] Forest Hills, NY 11375 ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re
You wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 04:03:17PM -0600, Jim Clark wrote: Hate to ask it, as it has been discussed many times and there are many web pages on it, but I can't get it to work. RedHat 7.2 using GIMP 1.2.3 I have some additional fonts I'm trying to install. I have added the path to this directory to my /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fs/config file by just adding the directory with a comma to the list. The directory has been the recipient of a type1inst action and the fonts.dir and fonts.scale files are there. They are woned by root with 444 permissions, which seem to be the perms on other directories. I did a xset fp rehash. I still do not have the fonts I tried to install. Did you restart the font server? On Redhat 7.1, you can do this by running: # /etc/init.d/xfs restart While on the topic of fonts, there seem to be many redundancies and many more not too worthwhile. Other than today's action, I have the standard RH install. Are there any of these directories I can comment out to reduce the clutter? I don't see any reason why you couldn't. Regards, Ben -- Ben Logan: ben at wblogan dot net OpenPGP Key KeyID: A1ADD1F0 ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: creating new brush?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-10-15 at 0829.49 +0200): Just go ahead and export it and see how it works. You are right, Bex. :] When I try to save the image as a brush, I get the Export File dialog with message, GBR can't handle layers Flatten Image. The version of Gimp is 1.2.2 on linux. Another option is to try to save as animated brush (.gih, gimp image hose), a case in which layers make sense and you get a different dialog, but I am trying to understand all the options of that dialog (the URL I had is down). GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: INT32 complaints
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-04-11 at 1342.35 -0400): Have you tried "$draw-plug_in_pixelize(10);"? This worked. And so did this: plug_in_pixelize($draw, 10); I have been using the - latelly. As well as . in Python. It seems to be the programming trend. Do not ask me the theory, nobody has explained me OO so I know by practicing. :] I think that you had an advantage as (if I remember correctly) you do not have the PDB. The listing for plug_in_pixelize in my PDB went like this: I have the PDB, but the PDB does not tell you how to call each function in each languaje. For example Scheme uses "-" instead of "_", so you have to translate all names with that rule. It is a rough guide, but it will be cool if it would give complete info. updated but not the PDB. It wasn't what I expected. Expecting that is too much for any doc. grep has always been an enigma to me. I will read the man page, maybe I am ready to use it. Usually, when I ask a question from my "local expert" about shell commands, I end up thinking about how "less is better than more because it does more". I should probably move along in my thinking now. I will read the man page. Thanks. Unix is not learned easily without the explanation (which normaly includes jokes) but then is hard to forget. "more" and "less" is one of the best cases, man pages include some info luckly. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Altering comment in jpegs
I just tried out opening a jpeg with a text editor (vim), and changing the comment manually. This works fine if you make the new comment the same length as the old one. If the new comment is longer, a warning is issued when opening about extraneous bytes, and if the new comment is smaller it doesn't open. This can be fixed by opening with a hex editor, and changing the byte before the comment: xxd myfile.jpg myfile.hex change the line: 010: 0048 fffe 0007 4865 6c6c 6fff db00 .H..Hello... to: 010: 0048 fffe 0004 4865 6c6c 6fff db00 .H..Hello... convert back to binary: xxd -r myfile.hex myfile.jpg Then change "Hello" to "Hi" with a text editor like vim. And I figured that out without even looking at the documentation! I bet it would only take a little C to make an automated jpeg comment changer. Oh, and upon some looking around, there's one right on my system: wrjpgcom. So read the man page on it and see if that's what you want. -James Smaby ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Re: Altering comment in jpegs
Thanks, James. I found wrjpgcom On Friday 06 April 2001 19:56, you wrote: I just tried out opening a jpeg with a text editor (vim), and changing the comment manually. This works fine if you make the new comment the same length as the old one. If the new comment is longer, a warning is issued when opening about extraneous bytes, and if the new comment is smaller it doesn't open. This can be fixed by opening with a hex editor, and changing the byte before the comment: xxd myfile.jpg myfile.hex change the line: 010: 0048 fffe 0007 4865 6c6c 6fff db00 .H..Hello... to: 010: 0048 fffe 0004 4865 6c6c 6fff db00 .H..Hello... convert back to binary: xxd -r myfile.hex myfile.jpg Then change "Hello" to "Hi" with a text editor like vim. And I figured that out without even looking at the documentation! I bet it would only take a little C to make an automated jpeg comment changer. Oh, and upon some looking around, there's one right on my system: wrjpgcom. So read the man page on it and see if that's what you want. -James Smaby ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- Rick Rosinski http://rickrosinski.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: image optimization
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-02-26 at 2307.12 +): Yeah, JPG too... since when PNG is animated? I hoped someone would ask ;) PNG does not support animations. MNG, encapsulating PNG and / or JPEG data (if I read the docs right), can be used to save anims. libmng is now available for Linux http://www.libmng.com this provides multiple network images (animations). When are you gimp folks lookin' to include it, or is it already ?? I think it is not supported, try saving one. Also, the developers seem to be in a reorganization fury, so if no volunteers appear, you will have to wait. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
