Thanks, Lorelei. Very helpful :-)
It's hard to tell from the pics in the article just how much is bobbin and
how much is needle, but it appears to be more than a 'smattering' of NL to
make up the lace of the veil. It appears from the photos that the flower
petals of the main flowers (that are
Interesting question you raise, Devon, about Point d'Angleterre.
I just received my issue of Piecework, and it's the annual Lace issue. One
article is about a wedding veil that the author has ID'd as Point
d'Angleterre.
There's a pretty good close up of the work, and it's clearly a blend of
The Fan Museum in London - didn't get a chance to visit it last time I was
there, but so wish I could.
There's also Cecil Higgins and Bedford Museums in Bedford. Don't know how
available their laces are right now, but they're interesting to visit if
you're going that way, and Ampthill is right
Janice: sometimes you can leave a thread underneath the tally for it to sit
on, but that may not quite work if you've got 6 threads to use for the
tally. You don't really say if the tally is slumping to one side in
particularly or just not 'behaving'. I've found that I sometimes have to
take
Have yet to see the article, but I've seen some of her embroidery. It's
superb.
... which explains why her NL is prize winning (like her embroidery).
She's one talented lady.
Helen, in Duvall, WA
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I think my preferred pin cushions are ones filled with emery powder (I just
have 2 of the Springetts kits variety). The emery has kept my pins clean
and reasonably sharp through the years, and I've had both of mine for
probably 25+ years,and they've been in humid and dry climates over that
time.
Working on the New Year Wishes early - so Happy New Year everyone, and I
hope 2017 bring you peace and prosperity and all the lace and lace goodies
your heart wishes for.
Cheers,
Helen, in chilly Duvall, awaiting 2017 to arrive with some snowflakes and a
cold start back to school this week.
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I notice that you used the wrong address for Lace - it should be
lace@arachne.com not the @dont.panix.com
If you use
Helene,
Do you mean a Grand Venetian?
I think that's in Cook's Practical skills
Helen, Aussie in Duvall, WA
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Don't know about that specific Guterman silk. I've got some reels of a
heavy silk for gimp, that I'm using, but you'd need an awful lot of those
little reels, unless you used it for gimp.
I know Coats have a white silk that's on little reels that's made in
Hungary. Haven't used it, but it looks
Yes, Devon, I am young enough (old enough? :-) ) to remember pre-blue film
days. I still have some of my early prickings that were done on blue
cardboard (maybe it's the glazed kind that someone - Mary Carey maybe? -
referred to a couple of days ago). One side of the card has a 'matte'
finish
Yes - I do. I think it was 2000? Seems like it was to do with the new
millennium? I could be wrong though.
What sort of candle holders? I think I may have missed this part.
I know Susan Groh had a really pretty Torchon pattern that went into a clear
glass/Perspex tealight holder, that got
Education Act of 1872, I believe.
Prior to that, I think lace schools in the UK were lace schools and you were
there to learn to make lace, not learn the 3R's. That changed after 1872.
Anne Buck has a very good section about it in her book on Lester and the
East Midlands laces, if anyone is
I have 1 bobbin I've talked to so far. It's a family Antique, and I have no
idea who the Charles is on the bobbin from 1842, and where he fitted into
the family history, but I did ask him very nicely to not give me trouble
while I worked on a piece of Lester lace in class with Holly VS 2 years
Don't forget the superstitions associated with the various beads (and types
of bobbins).
Buttons came from mens' pants (either a fiancé or husband?), and the various
types of beads like Kitty Fisher Beads and Snake Eye beads all have their
own superstitions (and David Springett's book, Spangles
Going to try to kill 2 birds with one stone here :-)
Re hitches working or not working: seems like something fundamental is
being missed here with thread and hitches. I've had my share of silky
threads not wanting to co-operate with staying hitched, that's made me
resort to 2 hitches or using a
I can add a bunch of Australian bobbin makers - they may not have sold
internationally, but they did sell in Oz. this list is far from exhaustive
- and I'm drawing a blank on the name of the bobbin maker in Victoria who
did wrapped bobbins (I know there will be a Aussie who'll remember them from
Oh yeah - I forgot about my aluminium bobbin and the 2 gold coloured metal
ones and a brass one. Forgot who made those. Thanks for the reminder about
them Lauren.
There's also someone - in Oz I think - who also (or used to) make bobbins in
Corian. I don't have one of those, but I do have a
Diane mentioned using a large square with knotted corners for carrying
pillows around in and I do something similar.
I use a large table cloth (not my best lacy, linen or Battenberg cloths),
but a couple of casual ones. I have 2 large pillows that don't have bags,
so I have them wrapped in table
Now those are some luscious gimp thread colours - they make me think of the
seashore and ocean! And they would show well with a white or cream/ecru
lace. 18 should be plenty for gimps, and adding simple gimps to a torchon
pattern isn't too overwhelmingly hard to do.
I have to say that I have a
I learnt Dacombe shorthand in Australia in 11th secretarial studies. Learnt
to type on an old manual too, but was never fast enough to move up to one of
the few electrics (this was end of the 70's). I think the school got its
first pc's in about 1981. A dear friend of mine worked for a bank and
I know this is a little past its prime, but I knew I'd seen it somewhere,
and I found the references again this morning while browsing my 1860 Godey
Lady's book.
I found several references to the decorative hairwork and they refer to
specific braids and use a certain 'bobbin' or list how many
Hi Mark,
2 nice pieces of lace :-) I envy you.
The first does look to be Beds, the second one I think is probably more of
what we think of as Le Puy. I think Fouriscot has several Le Puy books out
and there maybe something vaguely similar in terms of a pattern in there.
Both are plaited
Good question. I think I was using about a 50 cotton equiv. or there
abouts. It's been awhile since I worked a sample in it. It's just the
machine embroidery thread.
Cheers,
Helen, in Denver
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Too much lace on the go and not enough time! :-)
I still have my table ribbon from 2006 IOLI Convention that didn't get
finished in time (it's beds lace); a lace beds lace piece designed by a
fellow Aussie which was in Lace years ago; my piece for this years IOLI
contest; there's a piece that I
Gosh, I remember paper like that in Oz, but white. It was in the public
loos. I remember one side was 'shiny' or 'slick' and not absorbent and
the other side was absorbent and 'matte'. As a little kid, it was quite
a weird sensation to use :-)
Cheers,
Helen, Aussie in Denver, where we're
If you don't have a cable release, if your camera is on a tripod or some
other steady setup, you could try using the timer delay release.
If you have an ott light or some other type of craft light, those can be
good sources of natural light to supplement. Sometimes putting a single
layer of a
Seems like I have a notion of seeing a pair of HM QEI's gloves with gold
lace trim in a display of gloves somewhere in my previous life bc
(before children). I keep thinking it was at Rougemont House in Exeter,
which I think at the time (and maybe still is) part of the VA. It was
a fascinating
I have to concur with Tamara.
When up at CSU 2 years ago with our Guild's President, looking at lace
in the University collection for consideration for Convention display, a
Grad student brought in her chantilly shawl. We were a little put on
the spot when she asked for a $ evaluation and swore
Kurella's Secrets of real lace is also a good book and quite readable,
to help with lace ID.
Cheers,
Helen, Aussie in very cold Denver
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I've been reading the various posts on this topic with a degree of
professional interest - and personal curiosity.
Having trained as a librarian and spent 4 years learning cataloguing (on
cards no less, and then computer tagging), then going into private
industry only to have almost all of the
I spotted Valentines Day cards today in our grocery store when I had
need of the card aisle.
I find it depressing in late July to walk into a craft store that's
already getting it's Christmas stock in. Lets at least celebrate
Halloween and Thanksgiving first.
I have to admit, one of the best
Hi Folks,
Have there been any chat digests this week? I haven't seen any come in
the last few days. I have received regular lace digests OK.
We never lost power or internet service during the blizzard, so that's
not the problem.
As an aside, the sun came out late yesterday for a little
I haven't heard of bamboo thread for lacemaking, but it sounds really
interesting.
I know you can get bath towels here in the US that are made from bamboo,
and they feel pretty soft.
If I don't post on Arachne between now and the 25th, I'd like to wish
everyone a very Happy and Peaceful Holiday
What if the lace was from a different dress and had been remade into
this dress? That might explain the darts and tucks. We know they used
to take lace off dresses and reapply it to new dresses.
On a tangent, that makes me suspect that's what I have with a length of
black beds that has been cut
I learnt my lacemaking from Mum (English) and we always dress the pillow
with a cloth or 2 pinned to the pillow. I think Honiton pillows use 2
or 3 dressing cloths pinned to the pillow to create just a small space
for working in.
My advice is to not use a cloth that is 'fluffy' or will fluff or
I've had the problem of a pricking 'walking' on the pillow once or
twice. If the pricking isn't anchored well at its ends where it meets
around the pillow, it can shift. This is more likely to happen if your
pattern isn't wrapped around the pillow: for eg, I'm working my table
ribbon
I still have my unfinished table ribbon on the go (beds lace), a large
star (beds lace) designed by a fellow Ozzie lacemaker, and my next
year's IOLI contest entry (also beds, but quite psychedelic) on the go.
Next weekend is Cider Days at Lakewood Heritage Centre, and I'm demo'ing
there. It'll
Rosemont House in Exeter
Duh. Sorry, I meant Rougemont House. I think Rosemont House is in
Pueblo.
Cheers,
Helen, in Denver
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Rosemont House in Exeter also has (or had) a lovely costume collection
and some lace. I have a vague recollection that it was a VA satellite
collection.
I haven't had problems with AOL this week, but I did a few weeks ago,
and I had awful problems trying to send to people with AOL accounts. I
Yep, that's the same problem I had, and mine is also 100/3 in ecru. I
bought it last year for my table ribbon. It's working up just fine, and
I haven't so far (touch wood, rub the hare's foot, etc) had breakages,
etc (which is a problem in Denver's dry air).
It just spins itself up into loops
I had that twisting happen once with some Brok thread (might be a
current reel I have. Never had it happen with other threads. I just
put up with up it, but no matter how it comes off the reel, it twists up
on itself immensely.
Patience and perseverance were the order of the day in my case
Yes, and I just received my subscription copy in today's mail. Looks to
have interesting articles as usual.
I seem to recall someone else some months ago in Oz I think being told
the same thing or thinking the same thing.
From memory, their issues have been very regular, and I've subscribed
I have been using Gutermann's Silk Twist for gimps and love how they've
come up in my lace. Great colours and great contrast to my working
threads.
I have used Mulberry silks once before - I bought some of their whitest
silk for the lace for my wedding gown, and it worked up wonderfully. I
have
Good for you, Alice! That's a great article.
I love the lace on the pillow - I've seen that pattern before, and it's
one I've always wanted to do.
I'm glad you take time to make your DH lunch :-)
Cheers,
Helen, Aussie in Denver
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Kensington Palace is wonderful. When DH and I were there in May 2002
for the ASL golden Jubilee, I talked him into going. He loved the
architecture and art works and I loved the Queen's gowns and some of
Diana's well known ones that were on display (Queen's gift to the public
for her Golden
I don't think it's a case of whipping up the anticipation of readership
to a fever pitch. I think prohibiting pics of the entries is perhaps a
case of Copyright.
Entrants also give sole permission to IOLI to publish the contest
entries.
Debra Jenny's probably the best one to answer this
Yes the ineligible piece was from Rochelle Sutherland. I think she got
it finished a few hours too late and missed the post.
And yes, Mother Dear had 2 table ribbons entered. I'm surprised her
original design came 2nd - I thought her filet lace one was superior.
Maybe she'll give that one to
Tree shadows/shade is wonderful, but indeed, when I read about the
little critters that littered the maps, I remembered some of my own
adventures from vacations and outside demonstrations when I made lace
outside under a tree :-) One has to beware of the feathered friends and
their nether
Indeed, bicarbonate soda is the same as baking soda. Baking powder is
different.
US calls it baking soda and I think UK and Australia call it bicarb.
Soda. Don't know about other countries.
I still call it bicarb soda after all these years, and it still confuses
the people I know :-)
Cheers,
Has anyone heard yet (or are any convention attendees back online) and
can share whose table ribbon reigns supreme?
Like Alice (and other non-convention attendees), I'm dying of curiosity
to know the contest results.
Cheers,
Helen, in hot and Dry Denver
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The bandanas were all the work of Guild members - I forget who came up
with the idea. They actually have a special crystal in them that you
wet, and they will stay cool. We had plenty of sewing bees at meetings
where busy hands sewed, turned, pressed, filled and sewed.
You also see the neck
I know just how you feel Jean, and in Colorado we have a dry climate,
with humidity in the summer dipping as low as 5% some days. I still
feel hot and bothered! :-) I can tell when the humidity is up, though.
We had a weekend earlier this month where it rained from Friday night to
Sunday evening
This is a fascinating topic, Alice.
I'm not an expert needlewoman, but part of the theory may hold water.
Modern needlewomen have the help of technological advances, such as
excellent lighting, magnification, and a variety of threads, and
probably superior needles.
They also have the benefit of
Hi Jenny,
What a wonderful opportunity to spread the word :-)
A brochure is a great idea, and if there was more time, I'd mail you a
copy of our brochure for ideas.
The RMLG has a nice tri-fold brochure (currently under revision) that
includes a potted history of lace, with a brief description
I think I wonder, along with Tamara. I think the embroidery stitches -
even the simple zig zag stitch is a more modern development.
Mum has a Viking (Husqvana) from about the 1950's and it only does a
straight stitch. The only way she could do buttonholes was by hand or
with a Singer attachment
Hi Gentle Spiders,
Thank you to the people who have kindly emailed me off list with offers
of help. You've all answered my question, and I appreciate the
generosity of spirit.
Cheers,
Helen, Aussie in boiling hot Denver.
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but there are no prickings for the patterns - just photos of the
finished pieces (except for the 'bandage' starter strip).
If you can answer my question, please email me off list.
Many thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Helen Bell,
Librarian, RMLG.
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I put my money where my mouth is, and my table ribbon is there too.
Having seen my mother's efforts (and I know which one I would be voting
for if I were attending Montreal), I know I need the luck of the Lace
Gods to beat her (please excuse the Mother daughter rivalry here).
Hope the Convention
Well, the Commonwealth Games have just started in Melbourne (my home
town), so that could be why some are quiet (don't know how much is
televised). I know Liz in Melbourne is working her little legs off with
my Dad at one of the venues.
Apart from that - must be that everyone is working hard on
I'm an in-hand worker of all my tallies and leaves (flat and rolled),
and I don't have the problem of uneven curvatures, but I do find that
sometimes my leaves suddenly narrow at the bottom. I'm much better at
making them now, but early on it was noticeable. I tried the method on
the pillow, and
And don't forget to fumigate it in someway to kill off any little
critters in the straw. They have been known to work their way through
cover cloths.
Cheers,
Helen, Aussie in Denver
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And in the UK (and probably elsewhere) they told lace 'tells' or rhymes
that did a similar job. There is some thinking that the 'Jack be
nimble' nursery rhyme was one.
I think there are references to them in Thomas Wright's book, Romance
of the lace pillow and not sure if there are some in the
Bev,
I'll try to join you! That's 1-3pm MST, so works good for me :-)
Cheers,
Helen, Aussie in Denver, wishing fellow Aussies a belated Happy
Australia Day.
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I would love to have a commemorative with member since... on my
bobbin. I know I joined in 1995, because I was pregnant, and I think
Penny Boston made the announcement on Arachne of my son's arrival :-) I
learnt about the list at a bucks point class I did that summer, and I
joined when the list
Could it be a pall cloth?
Cheers,
Helen, Aussie in Denver
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Actually, Jean, I've bought some very nicely made dresses for a very
reasonable price (I refuse to pay big bucks for clothing that's 'junk'),
and some of the dresses and skirts are lined. My going away outfit from
my wedding is one such item, and it was a 3 piece set - dress, jacket
and skirt -
A nice piece of lace on a card with a 50th anniversary title might be
appreciated. Or even just a blank card with a nice lace motif, that
they can frame at some point if they so desire.
I'd also suggest a cake band if you knew they were having a cake and who
was making it, but that might be a
You could also try a clothes brush. Some have a dual side - one stiffer
and one with a pile.
Cheers,
Helen, Aussie in Denver
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The Ashes are the Holy Grail of cricket. England and Australia battle
it out every 18 months for a small wooden urn with the ashes (literally)
of a bail. The Ashes came into being when a disgruntled UK cricket fan
burnt a bail in the late 1800's symbolizing the death of English cricket
('coz the
Hi All,
I was googling yesterday looking for some wreath boxes, and there are a
few places that sell a variety via the web. DH bought me 2 big plastic
ones in Lowes, but there are ones that I saw on the web that are for
shipping and others of corrugated plastic for storing them. I just
googled
Friends,
I'd like to wish you all a very safe, prosperous, happy and lacey 2006.
As usual, Sydney has excelled itself with some fabulous fireworks off
the bridge.
One of my resolutions is to be more up to date with reading my lace/chat
digests, since I enjoy the companionship of the groups and
Lyn's comment about critiquing the work of others makes a good point.
I've just finished doing a Standardized Patient portrayal for 2nd year
med students, and part of the training for the case was learning to give
the students good feedback (they were trying to help me choose to change
my
It looks more French to me. Doesn't quite have the feel of beds. I
don't see any gimps, and those look like pomegranates, which I'm not
sure I've seen too much of in beds lace. The footside isn't a common
English one either. And if it was English, I don't think they'd have
done rolled tallies
Hi All,
I have to say that I had the pleasure of sitting at Devon's table at the
conservation lunch on the Tuesday of the IOLI Convention, along with the
2 PieceWork Editors, and I encouraged Devon to write it up for
PieceWork, since it's a fascinating part of lace history. (Devon - I
still hold
Lorri,
If it's what I'm thinking of, I've seen it in the Lace Museum and Guild
newsletter. It's in the 20(4), Fall 2002, edition of their newsletter,
and they say it's from a publication called The Outlook. They estimate
that it was written some time around 1900.
Without seeing your copy to
Hi All,
I'm a tea person first and foremost, and coffee comes second (beer and a
good glass of Merlot or a nice dessert wine or liqueur like Dom
Benedictine, Kaluha, or Amaretto are also up there).
I would drink tea all day long if I could (bad thing at this altitude -
very dehydrating), and as
Hi Lynne,
In Lace (80), October 1995, p30, there is a cute garter that's an
adaptation of a Jean Leader torchon pattern. It has delicate little
bells worked into it.
Refer to Lace (72), October 1993, p19 for a working diagram of the
bells.
I'm not a bucks point person, but I have worked and
I cannot speak as a Contest Chairman, only as the Host group's liaison
person with the IOLI Contest Chairman (this year, Anne Moore and
Sylvie).
We set a date of entries being in my hands by July 1st, so that all
paperwork could be checked (don't ask, you'd be surprised what can be
missed from
I have to agree with Barbara, regarding the judging of lace from a
photograph. You simply cannot see from a photograph, how lace is
mounted, especially if framed (eg, is it stitched or glued or just laid
in, whatever), and some of the finer points of the lace regarding it's
construction,
And following Steph's train of thought - some people have better
equipment or more skill, so they can better depict/photograph their lace
than some others, who may have an equally stunning entry, but be limited
by equipment or how to best photograph their entry.
At the library, when I worked,
Sorry, I forgot to add this part to my earlier message.
Clay, I can see where you are coming from, and I can honestly see what
you are asking (send a photo of the contest entry prior to Convention)
being applied at some point to the Exhibition Room.
This year when I ran the exhibition room,
I think I'll be quiet after this :-)
I don't know about previous years, but this year, Debra contacted me,
and we worked out a time in advance for her to have quiet, uninterrupted
time to do the photography of the contest entries. I stayed late into
the night with her on the Sunday evening after
The IOLI Editor knows what he/she (in this year's case, Debra Jenny)
wants for the Bulletin, and having seen her professionalism in
photographing the contest entries first hand this year, I'd much rather
have her photograph my work, than try myself.
Debra spent many hours with the contest
Yes, and even though you might have a wonderful rapport with your agent,
and they might be fabulous, the Company might still be abysmal when it
comes to a time of need. I won't go into details here, but our former
Auto Insurance company was (and still is) the absolute pits when it came
to paying
From what I recall from the form for the IOLI contest, you sign a
'waiver' that states that IOLI Board, officer, etc isn't held
responsible for any loss or damage or other incident.
Don't know if that applies to just at Convention or if it applies once
the item is in the hands of the Contest
Weronika,
Of course you can enter and not attend (there were several who did this,
this year).
You must send with your entry enough money to cover your preferred
method of return of your entry (and I would also suggest a little extra
to cover the cost of a new mailer or box for return, since
I have it on good authority that raised tallies are permitted. I have
checked, since I have an idea that might have need for them.
My advice is, if you aren't sure, email a question. Better to ask, than
die wondering and not enter.
I too thought like Janice along the lines of what can I use
Yes, it can be made into bobbins! :-) One of my favourite bobbin
makers in Oz (no longer making bobbins boo hoo) I think made some from
lilac. I think I've seen some, and they look lovely.
I envy you having some lovely lilac wood for bobbins.
Cheers,
Helen, Aussie in Denver
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I too understand that one of the rules is that it's to be symmetrical.
Can't find where in my stuff I saw that, but I've seen it there.
Cheers,
Helen, Aussie in Denver
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Hi All,
I feel like I want to jump in here and say something about the IOLI
contest.
Having just recently been through the process of selecting a contest
theme and setting up the rules and submitting it to IOLI, I know that
the Montreal group has probably spent many hours thinking about themes,
Dagmar,
For general lace history in the US, you're looking at an awfully big
subject to research. I'm glad you're trying to perhaps (hopefully)
narrow it to just Minnesota for now.
Further to Jeri's suggestion of the Ipswich Lace Industry book, there
was also an article in PieceWork several
Jean,
You might want to see if you can contact Australian Customs or contact
Australia House in London and see if they can guide you.
Cheers,
Helen, Aussie in Denver
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There is a lovely pattern of wedding bells as a garter in Lace (80),
October 1995, p 30. It's a point ground pattern which has been adapted
from an insertion type piece designed by Jean Leader (Lace, (72),
October 1993, p19).
I adapted the pattern to add a footside, and made a length which I
Yep, Mum (Liz Ligeti) has a Viking she bought when she turned 21 (I
think that's the story) while she was still in the UK, and it would've
been 1957 or thereabouts. It's a Husqvana, but has Viking badging (I
believe. I double check with her but after she finishes watching
Finding Nemo with the
I forgot to add, that when 'learning' to sew in highschool in Oz in
1976/77, The Berninas were the sought after ones (forget what the others
were). My dear Grandmother in law had a Bernina which she gave to DH's
SIL - I sewed my wedding dress on it, and loved it.
In Oz I had a Brother (it was
David, We have a friend in Belgium who uses it and swears by it.
Cheers,
Helen, Aussie recovering from Convention in Denver
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Hi All,
Convention is coming to a close tomorrow - boohoo :-( I have had so
much fun in my sleep deprived, lace to the max state.
Class finishes tomorrow afternoon, and then it's the banquet and
announcing of the Lace Contest winners. There were 25 entries in the
contest, so the Judges had a
Hi everyone
I thought I'd just post here, since I thought convention updates were
more gossipy than lacey, but if someone want to move my post, please
feel free.
Today was tour day, so it was relatively quiet for me in the Exhibition
room (I set it up, and am manning it). I actually made it
Hi everyone,
I just wanted to let you know that I have enjoyed my first day of my
first ever Convention (and yes, I'm working hard on the Committee :-) ).
It's been so exciting to meet friends I only know by email. The first
person I met today was Pene Piip - a fellow Aussie, and we've had so
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