I've only played with Ruby a bit in Win32 enviroment and its libs there are very good.
not done any GUI stuff with it yet.
Dean
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for about six
months, i had a quick noise on GLLUG and there are at least five people interested in
going (Including me) do we want to make this a LondonPM/GLLUG day-out and get a
minibus and stuff? We could have a "Jolly Boys[0]" outting...
Dean
[0] Yes its from that
ding style.
If all else fails I'll be raiding Matts script archive ;)
Dean
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es on
london.pm.org?
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ok/autobook/autobook_toc.html
HTH
Dean
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n of the message board and tidy up his code for
him ;)
Thanks to everyone who sent me code off list. I shall protect the names of
the not quite innocent.
Dean
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we could begin the
re-education and spreading the word but since we don't we have to admit that Matts
stuff is better than nothing.
Dean
PS I have no intention of getting involved in the writing of an
alternative :)
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ementation.
Submit a patch for conversion to DDMMYY and see if it gets incorporated :)
Dean
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en an ssh connection?
> > Now with added pointy and clickyness.
>
> Now with added Ludditeness.
Wait till Activestate get their IDE's out for Linux and the plugin for
Visual Studio... I can't wait.
Dean
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jaded view of this is that the situation was very similar to
the Microsoft Kerberus one and Slashdot held their ground over that one.
Also it was amusing to see the comments praising the decision to back down
and remove the article.
Dean
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ts of cider, and then spend the night around a
> camp fire, drinking and talking.
Cool idea.
I'll come if we can have marshmallows ;)
Dean
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m to
> organise this
London PM and the Labour govenernment... which will act first?
Irresistible force meets immovable object ;)
Dean
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onsume.net project so you might get to meet
some of this lot anyway :)
Dean
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have lots of wasted disk space you felt the need to use? ;)
Dean
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/opensource/linux/projects/dprob
es/
>for a taster of things to come.
---Stop--
Now if only someone would do a community news letter to cover this stuff...
I've seen Johns talk at SAGE-WISE and its a good one.
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On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 11:14:48AM +0100, Dean wrote:
> > > I'm not sure I'll be able to make it though - I've got things to prepare
> > > for this talk at GLLUG on Saturday.
While i'm doing this i might as well plug the Lonix tonight (www.lonix.org.uk)
ked like
a w4r3z d00dz ;)
> Tushar was an exception.
Dean
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. :)
So was it you or Greg that drove him to jump ship? ;)
I think it was discovering people that actually owned unicycles that did
it...
Dean
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s). I probably
shouldn't but my accent and vocabulary are part of what makes me who i am
so i see no reason to worry about them. With people who don't know me
however i do keep a conscious check on my accent and wording so as to not
offend or be incomprehensible. (I often fail at both ;))
idn't have to pay for it.
> A while back. It was the time with the wearable computers demo.
Ah the one at the uni near Angel tube. Those weren't w4r3z d00dz they were
far far worse... Students ;)
Dean
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Will the Perl Cert discussion/brainstorming be taking part at todays meet
or the technical one?
Dean
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; Grr. I don't *want* to turn into an elitist wanker, it's just that I'd
> like all these morons to fuck off :-P
I'd settle for having them learn to quote in email...
Dean
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t" ". The file is a noddy script with
#!/usr/contrib/bin/perl
use strict;
print "Working...\n";
Does anyone on list have any experience with perl on this platform and know
if i need to change the shebang or anything similar.
Dean
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:)
Thanks Dominic
Dean
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about:
ppm install Tk?
Dean
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t another mailing list... You can't make me! I'm only moving some Linux
scripts across to HPUX so i doubt I'd be much use on the list. The error
threw me since i'm too new to this to know Perl 4.
Dean
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places...
Dean
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ions.
But do they have Buffy discussions ? Or Grep ;)
Dean
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On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 10:15:13AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
> Committee Reports:
> Canel Visitation Committee
^
God we're going down market... ;)
Dean
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' please
> attach jpegs)
You asked for this ;)
http://www.psyche.kn-bremen.de/
And its more upto date than BBC2!
Dean
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hit ctrl-space. And it gets it right quiet often.
I know that you can do the three things i mentioned above with other
techniques but this puts them closer with less hoop jumping to use them on
a day to day basis.
Has anyone got an views on it or the Linux version?
Dean
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On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 06:23:28PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 05:57:17PM +0100, Dean wrote:
> > Has anyone got an views on it or the Linux version?
> The Linux version is broken; it won't install, claiming you need a new
> license.
Gah! I just
re using our latest and greatest
>operating system which we couldn't be arsed to complete
I like this sig.
Dean
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stall its dead in the water IMHO
I can't see it taking off that much in the Nix world anyway, for some
reason IDE's always seem unwelcome (He adds writing this in vi and going
back to xemacs to code ;))
Dean
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xample that GUI's are not as popular as the command lines tools.
Yet.
Dean
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ve I'm wrong and Activestate Perl is full of unreleased modifications to
> Perl itself
Ahh yes, through the ActiveState way you can control clippit ;)
Dean
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sible to do it if you know enough Mac-oriented C programming.
Whats MPW?
> OS X just uses CPAN like any other *nix, more or less.
Does OS X come with GNU tools like GCC and make then?
Dean (Clueless when it comes to macs.)
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:29:43AM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
> CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz.
> Of course he'll probably be attacked by vampires before that can
> actually happen.
Or Greg ;)
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ot too comfortable with doing
everything in xemacs.
> Emacs *is* an IDE. It just doesn't look like all the other ones.
I was going to argue about the foot print but i use Visual Studio on
occasion ;)
>-Dom (oops, was that inflammatory?)
Nah.
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me with that
brush Mr Cross :)
Dean (Cordelia fan)
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e jobix
project which might have a lot of overlap in areas of interest...
Dean
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100
and 133 then it'll all run fine at 100.
If you have a board capable of running at PC133 and you have a mix of 100
and 133 it'll still run fine but only at 100. Lowest common as you'd
expect.
Dean
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o technical
details though...
Dean
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;t
you.
Bastard. :)
Dean
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series 2 will be shown.
That would be me. Looks like the videos will be out before the show comes
on.
Dean
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On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 04:17:25PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
> Oh, and you've just gotta love the mentality that sees 'gay' as an insult.
> Gives a real feel for the kind of person we're dealing with :)
Just to clarify is this the 13 year old?
Dea
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 04:32:35PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
> Well, the 13 year old now claims to be 20. But no, this is his friend bk who
> "kills people for a living" in Hereford!
Um. I no longer want children.
Dean
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y realise that one day he'll be picking out their
retirement homes...
Does the author of the book take an interest in the web group? I'd hope
she'd be on there correcting him.
Dean
I can see use.perl now, Thirteen year old boy terrorized by London PMer's
because "
nterested in going to YAPC, is London PM going as a group or is it all
just ad-hoc?
Dean (Also looking forward to the LBW and OSDEM and maybe LinuxTag)
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was supposed
to have finished shooting in 2000 and nothings been seen of it since the
early details.
Does any one know if ORA will be selling a compilation of the papers again
after this conference?
Dean
PS Do we have any news on the YAPC::Europe talks that were recorded?
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Dean
[0] Maybe even to the camel?
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On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 11:20:36AM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote:
> > 2) Get Willow. Dammit.
> I'll see what they cost. It might be prohibitively expensive to get
> anyone who's cute.
Get Willow then ;)
Dean
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On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:17:10PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
> Paul Mison wrote:
> > there may be a second constrained walk
> What's a "constrained walk"?
About 5 yards. ;)
Dean
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On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:33:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
>> How many things do you have on top of your monitor?
A dust puppy fluffy toy, a copy of Network Progamming with Perl and a flock
of post it notes.
>
> None ;-)
>
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Some interesting stuff:
http://www.perl.com/pub/2001/05/08/exegesis2.html
I like the fact that hash's and arrays are going to use their own symbols
for stuff like slices, should make explaining things a lot easier in the
future!
Dean
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or one found "in the wild"?
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tem that would see off the vampire ^Hventure
capitalists. One of the companies to survive todays spending spree was
MagSol, the founder Dave was heard to say "Willows better.""
Sorry couldn't resist.
Dean
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On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 07:18:23PM +0100, Barry Pretsell wrote:
> QVC are selling lots of Buffy gear, tune into QVC now, or check out the wbesite
"Charisma Carpenter 'Cordelia' Signed Photo" £64...
Now i'm scared...
Dean
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en call of the hardware.
Or get an emulator and save on aircon... :)
Dean
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ns are? Or is it a free
for all?
Dean
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again i shouldn't sit next to Cantrell i suppose ;)
Dean
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upload the
> installer when they switched back.
If you go here:
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Downloads/ActivePerl/
And click the AS Package link. This will give you Perl and options to get
the MSI installer for your version of Windows.
HTH
Dean
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for future reference does any one know a better way to do this than
Compress::Zlib, core or non-core.
Dean
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tions or even OS (Zlib should work on Windows. I think)
Dean
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roups to add or ideas for
recognition of services to London Community groups are welcome at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
If your a member of one of the groups i spoke to after the last edition of
this many moons ago please drop me a note to get added.
Remember "use Buffy;"
(http://search.cpan.org/se
same but the date is changing. I'll do
another LCN later this month when things are a bit firmer for:
PM Tech meeting.
PM Social.
GLLUG.
Lonix.
Only one that's done and dusted seems to be SAGE-WISE (Fingers crossed)
Dean
[0] This is one of the reasons i stopped doing
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:28:43PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> So *that's* the secret to your boyish good looks Dave! I knew there had
> to be *something* good about contracting :-)
That and getting to drain the life out of the permanent staff ;)
Dean
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e time.
The movie has been in the planning for a while now, the main bad guy has
been rumoured to be the "Ultimate Evil" from the Buffy Xmas episode where
Angels tries to kill himself (in series three.)
Dean
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cript,
vbs and can do perl python and rexx. You also have batch which is starting
to become impressive on its own.
> Cron
The at command or the task scheduler.
> * Final reason (for now)
> I don't trust them.
Agreed.
Dean
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f the NY trip i was hoping
someone would be feeling ambitious and volenter... (Although i worked at
Oven and hence can't organize a pissup in a brewery :))
Dean
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on't be too hard to spot a bunch of geeks and inflatable penguins in
Greenwich Park)
(Thanks to SuSE for a six foot inflatable penguin!)
---
HTH and can someone bring a football to the geeknic...
Dean
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or fees just the exam.
If you force people to do an expensive training course you lose alot of
appeal.
Dean
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>
>Failing to see why t-shirts were offensive now.
I like the sentence at the bottom:
'This program will be featured in an upcoming WebTechniques Perl
column.'
Wonder if the editors will let him keep the screen dumps :)
Dean
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these are VERY crude pantos!
Sinderella is a bit boring, boobs in the wood is a good laugh. If you
don't
get offended then "In the Wood" is well worth a watch.
Dean
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but also coz i'll be sending other non-relevent stuff in the near
future ;)
>I thought he was supposed to b*gar off (along with Paul
>Daniels and Andrew Lloyd Webber) when Labour won the last election ;)
Andrew Webber tried to leave but customs told him that he needed a pet
passport for his
e to install for any reason. Active State used to require all
modules to pass
certain tests before they'd package them, don't know if this has
anything to do with
what they support under corporate contracts but it might be another
reason.
An on-topic post!
Dean
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m might make some rapid movement into the turf of -MCPAN :)
PPM or -MCPAN? As someone said tmtowtdi.
>just my 2 penneth. now .. how can I get it onto my lapto tha has
no
>cdrom or network card? ... I see a very long 9600 baud call to demon
...
Floppy's, shed loads of floppies :) Although I've got one of the old
100mb Zip drives I use for stuff like this :)
Dean
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a pub so I got confused and didn't realise that it
was an official meeting ;)
Dean
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the ActiveState PDK, the perl
debugger is quite nice, I'm thinking of buying it when my trial
license runs out.
If you need any help with the Winperl stuff drop me a note, I'll be
on-line roughly once a day over x-mas and I'll help if I can.
Dean
PS Is it worth me doing a lightning talk at the next tech meeting on
Windows PPM/Module install? But don't tell Lonix :)
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ke the laziness rule with
that :)
>> An on-topic post!
>
>Disgusting. Let's go back to Jim Davidson.
Please please please don't. Its x-mas be kind. :)
All the above is IMHO.
Dean
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-Original Message-
From: David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 24 December 2000 15:01
Subject: Re: Fwd: SPUG: ActivePerl 623
>On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 02:35:50PM -, Dean S Wilson wrote:
>
>> PS Is it worth me doing
uld of come with
>your OS
I have one of these kit's, its called VMware and Linux lives in it on
my NT box :) And yes I know it should be the other way around but I
got bored of needing Linux when I was in NT.
Dean
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bots
>and him getting all excited as release 623 seems to be getting some
>good coverage in london.pm ;-)
Its your fault! You corrupted the innocent thread!
Pitch Black gets my vote, I fell asleep half way through and woke up
just in time to see the end, and it was predictable enough that I
co
-Original Message-
From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>* Dean S Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> Or on a CD bookshelf, that way they could leverage their back
>> catalogue of stuff like Managing make/imake and bung those on it
for
>
>i never thoug
Don't know how many of you have seen this:
http://www.oreilly.com/survey/perlcd.html
Vote to decide if they should put Mastering Regular Expressions or the
cookbook on the new CD.
Dean
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in. Might send
that in to "ask Tim" as it goes...
Dean
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y of
giving a discount to people who've previously bought books. (It's a
good argument for product registration for books, so we know who's
bought them, and can make these kind of offers.)
Quote
Be interesting to see how they deal with it, and maybe we can start
getting bulk disc
Don't know how many of you have seen this:
http://yetanother.org/damian/diary_January_2001.html#day_4
Made me chuckle.
Dean
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I'm going to agree with Neil and say
lets just make Andy stand by the projector all night and cover the lot
of 'em :)
Dean
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! Only Brother Mison remains
to be saved ;)
Dean
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he last competent team they had, they let them slip
through their fingers.
Oh well.
Dean
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-Original Message-
From: Natalie Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Oops - oven too[1]? Is it something in the water?
Yeah its called Java ;)
Dean
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more visible, How many netusers see the powered by python
logo on mailman each day? Whats our answer to that? Slashcode?
Plying devils advocate is fun.
Dean
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oment,
nothing better than having a lot of fresh faced advocates being
spawned at the end of each term.
Dean (Playing both sides in this one)
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ing combo boxes would be
nice. Which is what I'm hoping glade will become.
When I'm forced into GUI's I end up using Tk because it'll normally
run under Windows and Linux.
Does anyone think that compilation is an issue with perls lack of user
space apps? Discuss[1].
Dean
[1
-Original Message-
From: Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Dean S Wilson writes:
>> Has anyone tried Linux glade recently? Is it stable with perl yet?
>The TPJ that's stalled at the printers has a fantuckingfastic article
>on getting started with Glade
e never written a book so what do I know :)
Dean
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ied by their responce (They
saw my comments on (void). Beware ORA agents are everywhere! :))
>I can't even find this on their web site. Is it still being worked
>on?
Good question, I can't see it either. And they seem to have dropped
the "Perl Tools" book.
Dean
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He has porting it to perl as a future plan... Maybe with London PM's
help?
> of course you need a name, I personally like Rope - its
Yeah "We give you enough software to hang yourself" :)
Dean
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xTag Stuttgart (Germany) 5th-8th July 2001.
Also there is going to be a UKLISA in the second half of this year but
I'm not too sure of dates.
HTH
Dean
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