Re: missing libhunspell prevents starting lyx

2013-05-18 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 08:57:28AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote:

Hi,

I'd have to investigate that myself, though I don't know the situation
of hunspell but using enchant should be indeed the way to go.

 PS The experimental is just a tag to show that the packaging has been
 updated after a long period. No guarantees, but I think it's safe to
 try.

Slightly different: During the freeze we try to not disturb bugfixing
and migration to testing, so we try to avoid new upstream releases not
targeted at the stable release in freeze, to be uploaded to unstable.
Thus we use experimental. Usually it's a testing area for packaging
changes, disruptive upstream changes etc.

I'm currently waiting that someone sends a pull request or Nick start's
to commit to the git repo so that I can review that and sponsor an
upload to unstable. (That would even help to push that to Ubuntu if someone
cares ...)

Currently the LyX package from experimental might even be installable on
wheezy but that's not recommended and not guranteed to work.
After getting a new upstream release into unstable and testing we can
talk about backports in case someone prepares them. I'd be willing to
sponsor the upload but not much more.

Sven
-- 
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that we can take this road forever / if we take this road together
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Re: missing libhunspell prevents starting lyx

2013-05-18 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 08:57:28AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote:

Hi,

I'd have to investigate that myself, though I don't know the situation
of hunspell but using enchant should be indeed the way to go.

 PS The experimental is just a tag to show that the packaging has been
 updated after a long period. No guarantees, but I think it's safe to
 try.

Slightly different: During the freeze we try to not disturb bugfixing
and migration to testing, so we try to avoid new upstream releases not
targeted at the stable release in freeze, to be uploaded to unstable.
Thus we use experimental. Usually it's a testing area for packaging
changes, disruptive upstream changes etc.

I'm currently waiting that someone sends a pull request or Nick start's
to commit to the git repo so that I can review that and sponsor an
upload to unstable. (That would even help to push that to Ubuntu if someone
cares ...)

Currently the LyX package from experimental might even be installable on
wheezy but that's not recommended and not guranteed to work.
After getting a new upstream release into unstable and testing we can
talk about backports in case someone prepares them. I'd be willing to
sponsor the upload but not much more.

Sven
-- 
we live we love we learn and breathe / each breath we take makes me believe
that we can take this road forever / if we take this road together
 [ AZ0 - Endless Roads ]


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Re: missing libhunspell prevents starting lyx

2013-05-18 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 08:57:28AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote:

Hi,

I'd have to investigate that myself, though I don't know the situation
of hunspell but using enchant should be indeed the way to go.

> PS The experimental is just a tag to show that the packaging has been
> updated after a long period. No guarantees, but I think it's safe to
> try.

Slightly different: During the freeze we try to not disturb bugfixing
and migration to testing, so we try to avoid new upstream releases not
targeted at the stable release in freeze, to be uploaded to unstable.
Thus we use experimental. Usually it's a testing area for packaging
changes, disruptive upstream changes etc.

I'm currently waiting that someone sends a pull request or Nick start's
to commit to the git repo so that I can review that and sponsor an
upload to unstable. (That would even help to push that to Ubuntu if someone
cares ...)

Currently the LyX package from experimental might even be installable on
wheezy but that's not recommended and not guranteed to work.
After getting a new upstream release into unstable and testing we can
talk about backports in case someone prepares them. I'd be willing to
sponsor the upload but not much more.

Sven
-- 
we live we love we learn and breathe / each breath we take makes me believe
that we can take this road forever / if we take this road together
 [ AZ0 - Endless Roads ]


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Goodbye message and the search for a new LyX Debian package maintainer

2011-07-12 Thread Sven Hoexter
Hi all,
I already switched my work focus away from things where LyX is involved (about
half a year ago), but only recently settled for a new fulltime employment
starting next week. So after about five years maintaining the LyX package in
Debian together with Per this is kind of my goodbye message to all the
marvelous people who helped me/us along the way.[+]

It's been a real pleasure to work with all of the involved people. :)


Since Per (the other maintainer of the Debian package) is also no longer
a regular LyX user I'd like to take the opportunity for some advertisement:

NOW would be the perfect moment to step up if you'd like to get involved
in Debian and you'd like to maintain the LyX package for Debian!

Currently the package is still in a good shape, most bugs are handled[*],
the packaging has been polished a bit during the late 2.0.0rc
cycle and I'm still around to help with any questions.
I've to admit that getting started will be a bit hard if you've no prior
experience in creating Debian packages and the usage of a version
control system.

For those more involved with the toolchain, we're currently using
a git repository with pristine-tar and git-buildpackage. Patches are
handled within the master branch with source format 3.0 quilt.
The debian/rules file utilizes a debhelper 7 style with quite some
overrides.

You can find our todo list (more or less empty currently) and some
helpful links on our Wiki page http://wiki.debian.org/PkgLyx

If you've any questions feel free to mail the
pkg-lyx-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org mailinglist. If you like to get
involved you've to subscribe that one too. In that case a very good
mailfilter (I use bogofilter just in case someone cares) is highly
recommended due to the open nature of the list (it's also the official
maintainer contact address).


For all other bystanders: We will try to upload new upstream releases
from time to time but real bughandling and forwarding will be and already
is kind of an issue. It took me over two weeks to answer the latest one
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631112 :(


So thanks for all the fish and have a good time,
Sven


[+] Special kudos to Georg for helping out with so many Debian specific
itches upstream.

[*] As far as I remember we took the package over with about 90 unhandled
bugs and achieved a minimal bug count of 20, currently it's about 30.
-- 
And I don't know much, but I do know this:
With a golden heart comes a rebel fist.
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Goodbye message and the search for a new LyX Debian package maintainer

2011-07-12 Thread Sven Hoexter
Hi all,
I already switched my work focus away from things where LyX is involved (about
half a year ago), but only recently settled for a new fulltime employment
starting next week. So after about five years maintaining the LyX package in
Debian together with Per this is kind of my goodbye message to all the
marvelous people who helped me/us along the way.[+]

It's been a real pleasure to work with all of the involved people. :)


Since Per (the other maintainer of the Debian package) is also no longer
a regular LyX user I'd like to take the opportunity for some advertisement:

NOW would be the perfect moment to step up if you'd like to get involved
in Debian and you'd like to maintain the LyX package for Debian!

Currently the package is still in a good shape, most bugs are handled[*],
the packaging has been polished a bit during the late 2.0.0rc
cycle and I'm still around to help with any questions.
I've to admit that getting started will be a bit hard if you've no prior
experience in creating Debian packages and the usage of a version
control system.

For those more involved with the toolchain, we're currently using
a git repository with pristine-tar and git-buildpackage. Patches are
handled within the master branch with source format 3.0 quilt.
The debian/rules file utilizes a debhelper 7 style with quite some
overrides.

You can find our todo list (more or less empty currently) and some
helpful links on our Wiki page http://wiki.debian.org/PkgLyx

If you've any questions feel free to mail the
pkg-lyx-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org mailinglist. If you like to get
involved you've to subscribe that one too. In that case a very good
mailfilter (I use bogofilter just in case someone cares) is highly
recommended due to the open nature of the list (it's also the official
maintainer contact address).


For all other bystanders: We will try to upload new upstream releases
from time to time but real bughandling and forwarding will be and already
is kind of an issue. It took me over two weeks to answer the latest one
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631112 :(


So thanks for all the fish and have a good time,
Sven


[+] Special kudos to Georg for helping out with so many Debian specific
itches upstream.

[*] As far as I remember we took the package over with about 90 unhandled
bugs and achieved a minimal bug count of 20, currently it's about 30.
-- 
And I don't know much, but I do know this:
With a golden heart comes a rebel fist.
 [ Streetlight Manifesto - Here's To Life ]


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Goodbye message and the search for a new LyX Debian package maintainer

2011-07-12 Thread Sven Hoexter
Hi all,
I already switched my work focus away from things where LyX is involved (about
half a year ago), but only recently settled for a new fulltime employment
starting next week. So after about five years maintaining the LyX package in
Debian together with Per this is kind of my goodbye message to all the
marvelous people who helped me/us along the way.[+]

It's been a real pleasure to work with all of the involved people. :)


Since Per (the other maintainer of the Debian package) is also no longer
a regular LyX user I'd like to take the opportunity for some advertisement:

NOW would be the perfect moment to step up if you'd like to get involved
in Debian and you'd like to maintain the LyX package for Debian!

Currently the package is still in a good shape, most bugs are handled[*],
the packaging has been polished a bit during the late 2.0.0rc
cycle and I'm still around to help with any questions.
I've to admit that getting started will be a bit hard if you've no prior
experience in creating Debian packages and the usage of a version
control system.

For those more involved with the toolchain, we're currently using
a git repository with pristine-tar and git-buildpackage. Patches are
handled within the master branch with source format 3.0 quilt.
The debian/rules file utilizes a debhelper 7 style with quite some
overrides.

You can find our todo list (more or less empty currently) and some
helpful links on our Wiki page http://wiki.debian.org/PkgLyx

If you've any questions feel free to mail the
pkg-lyx-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org mailinglist. If you like to get
involved you've to subscribe that one too. In that case a very good
mailfilter (I use bogofilter just in case someone cares) is highly
recommended due to the open nature of the list (it's also the official
maintainer contact address).


For all other bystanders: We will try to upload new upstream releases
from time to time but real bughandling and forwarding will be and already
is kind of an issue. It took me over two weeks to answer the latest one
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631112 :(


So thanks for all the fish and have a good time,
Sven


[+] Special kudos to Georg for helping out with so many Debian specific
itches upstream.

[*] As far as I remember we took the package over with about 90 unhandled
bugs and achieved a minimal bug count of 20, currently it's about 30.
-- 
And I don't know much, but I do know this:
With a golden heart comes a rebel fist.
 [ Streetlight Manifesto - Here's To Life ]


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Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

2010-08-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:53:32PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Liviu Andronic wrote:
   FYI Although this is true, you cannot use the texlive 2009 package
   manager when texlive 2009 is installed from the ubuntu repository.
  
  That's very strange. Why would they block this?
 
 The argument, AFAIU, is that the distributors do not want yet another package 
 managment (i.e., tlmgr), but let their own package managers (apt, zypper, 
 etc.) handle everything. In a way, the TeXLive package managment and the 
 distributor's package management contradict.

The Problem is that you often end up with a mess because some third party
installers/package manager overwrite files of your distribution packages.
And a few weeks later a new update for your distribution arrives and
replaces some of the newer files with another older but patched set.

If you choose a sane path for the installation and adjust your enviroment
variables accordingly I'm pretty sure that you can create a working
enviroment with tlmgr. If my memory serves me right I even set it up once
to check some bugreports.

As rude as it may sound, I think people who want it that way and
know what todo don't need to ask here. If you've to ask here don't do it.
If you'd like to try it anyway: VirtualBox or Xen/KVM with LVM+snapshots
give you a way to try it out outside of your main system with easy rollback
mechanism.

For the Debian part of the discussion:
There is always equivs which let you create empty dummy packages which
provide the needed packages you try to replace.
I'm not recommending this and you should understand what you're doing.

Sven
-- 
If you won’t forgive me the rest of my life
Let me apologize while I’m still alive
  [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]


Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

2010-08-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:53:32PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Liviu Andronic wrote:
   FYI Although this is true, you cannot use the texlive 2009 package
   manager when texlive 2009 is installed from the ubuntu repository.
  
  That's very strange. Why would they block this?
 
 The argument, AFAIU, is that the distributors do not want yet another package 
 managment (i.e., tlmgr), but let their own package managers (apt, zypper, 
 etc.) handle everything. In a way, the TeXLive package managment and the 
 distributor's package management contradict.

The Problem is that you often end up with a mess because some third party
installers/package manager overwrite files of your distribution packages.
And a few weeks later a new update for your distribution arrives and
replaces some of the newer files with another older but patched set.

If you choose a sane path for the installation and adjust your enviroment
variables accordingly I'm pretty sure that you can create a working
enviroment with tlmgr. If my memory serves me right I even set it up once
to check some bugreports.

As rude as it may sound, I think people who want it that way and
know what todo don't need to ask here. If you've to ask here don't do it.
If you'd like to try it anyway: VirtualBox or Xen/KVM with LVM+snapshots
give you a way to try it out outside of your main system with easy rollback
mechanism.

For the Debian part of the discussion:
There is always equivs which let you create empty dummy packages which
provide the needed packages you try to replace.
I'm not recommending this and you should understand what you're doing.

Sven
-- 
If you won’t forgive me the rest of my life
Let me apologize while I’m still alive
  [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]


Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

2010-08-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:53:32PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Liviu Andronic wrote:
> > > FYI> Although this is true, you cannot use the texlive 2009 package
> > > manager when texlive 2009 is installed from the ubuntu repository.
> > 
> > That's very strange. Why would they block this?
> 
> The argument, AFAIU, is that the distributors do not want yet another package 
> managment (i.e., tlmgr), but let their own package managers (apt, zypper, 
> etc.) handle everything. In a way, the TeXLive package managment and the 
> distributor's package management contradict.

The Problem is that you often end up with a mess because some third party
installers/package manager overwrite files of your distribution packages.
And a few weeks later a new update for your distribution arrives and
replaces some of the newer files with another older but patched set.

If you choose a sane path for the installation and adjust your enviroment
variables accordingly I'm pretty sure that you can create a working
enviroment with tlmgr. If my memory serves me right I even set it up once
to check some bugreports.

As rude as it may sound, I think people who want it that way and
know what todo don't need to ask here. If you've to ask here don't do it.
If you'd like to try it anyway: VirtualBox or Xen/KVM with LVM+snapshots
give you a way to try it out outside of your main system with easy rollback
mechanism.

For the Debian part of the discussion:
There is always equivs which let you create empty dummy packages which
provide the needed packages you try to replace.
I'm not recommending this and you should understand what you're doing.

Sven
-- 
If you won’t forgive me the rest of my life
Let me apologize while I’m still alive
  [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]


Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word

2010-05-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
Hi,
it seems to me that the spellcheck in LyX 1.6.6 misses every second word.
Am I the only one seeing this?

Running on Debian/sid with aspell aswell as enchant.

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word

2010-05-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 08:05:48PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Sven Hoexter wrote:
  it seems to me that the spellcheck in LyX 1.6.6 misses every second word.
  Am I the only one seeing this?
 
 I don't see this (and I cannot imagine what could have caused this). Could 
 you 
 post a test file?

Sure see the attached german one.

Round one:
Catches Deis, correct it to Dies, next word detected is eni.

Round two:
Ignore Deis, next word detected is istt.

Similar for the rest of the document.

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


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Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word

2010-05-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 08:28:59PM +0200, Sven Hoexter wrote:

 Round one:
 Catches Deis, correct it to Dies, next word detected is eni.
 
 Round two:
 Ignore Deis, next word detected is istt.

Thanks to xvidcap I could even create a short demo video (1.5MB).
http://sven.stormbind.net/lyx/spellchecklyx.mpeg

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word

2010-05-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 08:52:09PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Hi,

 Can you please report this as LyX bug?

Done:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6708

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word

2010-05-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
Hi,
it seems to me that the spellcheck in LyX 1.6.6 misses every second word.
Am I the only one seeing this?

Running on Debian/sid with aspell aswell as enchant.

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word

2010-05-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 08:05:48PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Sven Hoexter wrote:
  it seems to me that the spellcheck in LyX 1.6.6 misses every second word.
  Am I the only one seeing this?
 
 I don't see this (and I cannot imagine what could have caused this). Could 
 you 
 post a test file?

Sure see the attached german one.

Round one:
Catches Deis, correct it to Dies, next word detected is eni.

Round two:
Ignore Deis, next word detected is istt.

Similar for the rest of the document.

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


newfile1.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word

2010-05-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 08:28:59PM +0200, Sven Hoexter wrote:

 Round one:
 Catches Deis, correct it to Dies, next word detected is eni.
 
 Round two:
 Ignore Deis, next word detected is istt.

Thanks to xvidcap I could even create a short demo video (1.5MB).
http://sven.stormbind.net/lyx/spellchecklyx.mpeg

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word

2010-05-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 08:52:09PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Hi,

 Can you please report this as LyX bug?

Done:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6708

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word

2010-05-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
Hi,
it seems to me that the spellcheck in LyX 1.6.6 misses every second word.
Am I the only one seeing this?

Running on Debian/sid with aspell aswell as enchant.

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word

2010-05-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 08:05:48PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Sven Hoexter wrote:
> > it seems to me that the spellcheck in LyX 1.6.6 misses every second word.
> > Am I the only one seeing this?
> 
> I don't see this (and I cannot imagine what could have caused this). Could 
> you 
> post a test file?

Sure see the attached german one.

Round one:
Catches "Deis", correct it to "Dies", next word detected is "eni".

Round two:
Ignore "Deis", next word detected is "istt".

Similar for the rest of the document.

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


newfile1.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word

2010-05-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 08:28:59PM +0200, Sven Hoexter wrote:

> Round one:
> Catches "Deis", correct it to "Dies", next word detected is "eni".
> 
> Round two:
> Ignore "Deis", next word detected is "istt".

Thanks to xvidcap I could even create a short demo video (1.5MB).
http://sven.stormbind.net/lyx/spellchecklyx.mpeg

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word

2010-05-20 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 08:52:09PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Hi,

> Can you please report this as LyX bug?

Done:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6708

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: By what command do I download LyX 2.0?

2010-02-25 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 04:50:03AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Well this is embarrassing:

All you need is this: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/

Sven runs ;)
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: By what command do I download LyX 2.0?

2010-02-25 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 04:50:03AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Well this is embarrassing:

All you need is this: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/

Sven runs ;)
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: By what command do I download LyX 2.0?

2010-02-25 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 04:50:03AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Well this is embarrassing:

All you need is this: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/

Sven runs ;)
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: Lenny backports for LyX 1.6.5 and eLyXer 0.39

2010-01-11 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 08:59:59AM +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 Am Sunday 10 January 2010 18:16:54 schrieb Sven Hoexter:
  Hi,
  some of you might have noticed that Reinhard Tartler had uploaded a LyX
  1.6.4 backport to backports.org in November last year. Now I finally got my
  key added on bpo aswell (thanks to formorer) and just found some time to
  upload a LyX 1.6.5 backport. Uploaded for amd64 so i386 and other arch
  packages will take some time to get build.

 where could one get your Debian LyX 1.6.5 backport? 

backports.org instructions can be found unter 'Instructions' ;):
http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions

HTH
Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: Lenny backports for LyX 1.6.5 and eLyXer 0.39

2010-01-11 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 08:59:59AM +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 Am Sunday 10 January 2010 18:16:54 schrieb Sven Hoexter:
  Hi,
  some of you might have noticed that Reinhard Tartler had uploaded a LyX
  1.6.4 backport to backports.org in November last year. Now I finally got my
  key added on bpo aswell (thanks to formorer) and just found some time to
  upload a LyX 1.6.5 backport. Uploaded for amd64 so i386 and other arch
  packages will take some time to get build.

 where could one get your Debian LyX 1.6.5 backport? 

backports.org instructions can be found unter 'Instructions' ;):
http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions

HTH
Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: Lenny backports for LyX 1.6.5 and eLyXer 0.39

2010-01-11 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 08:59:59AM +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> Am Sunday 10 January 2010 18:16:54 schrieb Sven Hoexter:
> > Hi,
> > some of you might have noticed that Reinhard Tartler had uploaded a LyX
> > 1.6.4 backport to backports.org in November last year. Now I finally got my
> > key added on bpo aswell (thanks to formorer) and just found some time to
> > upload a LyX 1.6.5 backport. Uploaded for amd64 so i386 and other arch
> > packages will take some time to get build.
>
> where could one get your Debian LyX 1.6.5 backport? 

backports.org instructions can be found unter 'Instructions' ;):
http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions

HTH
Sven
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Lenny backports for LyX 1.6.5 and eLyXer 0.39

2010-01-10 Thread Sven Hoexter
Hi,
some of you might have noticed that Reinhard Tartler had uploaded a LyX 1.6.4
backport to backports.org in November last year. Now I finally got my key
added on bpo aswell (thanks to formorer) and just found some time to upload
a LyX 1.6.5 backport. Uploaded for amd64 so i386 and other arch packages will
take some time to get build.


For eLyXer I'm currently not sure if the userbase warrants an upload to
backports.org but since I've been at it anyway I've placed a rebuild package
for Debian/Lenny at my site. Interested users of Debian/Lenny can just
download  install this package (unsigned - source is in the same directory
for you to download check and rebuild if you don't trust me):
http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/elyxer039bp/elyxer_0.39-1~hx+1_all.deb

Sven
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Lenny backports for LyX 1.6.5 and eLyXer 0.39

2010-01-10 Thread Sven Hoexter
Hi,
some of you might have noticed that Reinhard Tartler had uploaded a LyX 1.6.4
backport to backports.org in November last year. Now I finally got my key
added on bpo aswell (thanks to formorer) and just found some time to upload
a LyX 1.6.5 backport. Uploaded for amd64 so i386 and other arch packages will
take some time to get build.


For eLyXer I'm currently not sure if the userbase warrants an upload to
backports.org but since I've been at it anyway I've placed a rebuild package
for Debian/Lenny at my site. Interested users of Debian/Lenny can just
download  install this package (unsigned - source is in the same directory
for you to download check and rebuild if you don't trust me):
http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/elyxer039bp/elyxer_0.39-1~hx+1_all.deb

Sven
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Lenny backports for LyX 1.6.5 and eLyXer 0.39

2010-01-10 Thread Sven Hoexter
Hi,
some of you might have noticed that Reinhard Tartler had uploaded a LyX 1.6.4
backport to backports.org in November last year. Now I finally got my key
added on bpo aswell (thanks to formorer) and just found some time to upload
a LyX 1.6.5 backport. Uploaded for amd64 so i386 and other arch packages will
take some time to get build.


For eLyXer I'm currently not sure if the userbase warrants an upload to
backports.org but since I've been at it anyway I've placed a rebuild package
for Debian/Lenny at my site. Interested users of Debian/Lenny can just
download & install this package (unsigned - source is in the same directory
for you to download check and rebuild if you don't trust me):
http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/elyxer039bp/elyxer_0.39-1~hx+1_all.deb

Sven
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Re: URL wraping - someone got it working?

2009-11-10 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 09:38:33PM +, Guenter Milde wrote:
 On 2009-11-06, Sven Hoexter wrote:

Hello Guenter,

  With this settings it works for me, but you need to use
  Insert-Hyperlink instead of Insert-URL.
 
 If you want to wrap a long URL at sensible break-points (like /),
 you need the support of the url.sty package (which is loaded
 implicitely by hyperref.sty). With lyx, this means that URLs inserted with
 InsertURL are wrapped (at e.g. / but not at -) while URLs inserted with
 InsertHyperlink are not!

Uwe was kind enough to explain it to me in private mail after I provided
him the sample in question. After all just some expected missunderstanding
on my/our side.

Thanks to both of you for explaining it. :)

Sven
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Re: URL wraping - someone got it working?

2009-11-10 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 09:38:33PM +, Guenter Milde wrote:
 On 2009-11-06, Sven Hoexter wrote:

Hello Guenter,

  With this settings it works for me, but you need to use
  Insert-Hyperlink instead of Insert-URL.
 
 If you want to wrap a long URL at sensible break-points (like /),
 you need the support of the url.sty package (which is loaded
 implicitely by hyperref.sty). With lyx, this means that URLs inserted with
 InsertURL are wrapped (at e.g. / but not at -) while URLs inserted with
 InsertHyperlink are not!

Uwe was kind enough to explain it to me in private mail after I provided
him the sample in question. After all just some expected missunderstanding
on my/our side.

Thanks to both of you for explaining it. :)

Sven
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I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: URL wraping - someone got it working?

2009-11-10 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 09:38:33PM +, Guenter Milde wrote:
> On 2009-11-06, Sven Hoexter wrote:

Hello Guenter,

> >> With this settings it works for me, but you need to use
> >> Insert->Hyperlink instead of Insert->URL.
> 
> If you want to wrap a long URL at "sensible" break-points (like /),
> you need the support of the url.sty package (which is loaded
> implicitely by hyperref.sty). With lyx, this means that URLs inserted with
> Insert>URL are wrapped (at e.g. / but not at -) while URLs inserted with
> Insert>Hyperlink are not!

Uwe was kind enough to explain it to me in private mail after I provided
him the sample in question. After all just some expected missunderstanding
on my/our side.

Thanks to both of you for explaining it. :)

Sven
-- 
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I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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URL wraping - someone got it working?

2009-11-04 Thread Sven Hoexter
Hi,
did someone succeed in getting wraped and formated URLs in any document?
Background is that I tried to reproduce Debian bug #531992 [1].

The Break links over lines checkbox in the document settings is activated
and the 'breaklinks' setting is set in the tex export.
So I suspect some problems with my toolchain. It would be nice to know if
someone ever got it working and if yes which toolchain he used e.g. the
texlive version and which pdf creation mechanism.
I'm still on texlive 2007 and tried dvipdfm, pdflatex and ps2pdf.
Tried the usual article class and the koma classes so far, none worked.

What did work was using an ERT and the breakurl package as described in
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=breaklinks.

Regards,
Sven

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=531992
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URL wraping - someone got it working?

2009-11-04 Thread Sven Hoexter
Hi,
did someone succeed in getting wraped and formated URLs in any document?
Background is that I tried to reproduce Debian bug #531992 [1].

The Break links over lines checkbox in the document settings is activated
and the 'breaklinks' setting is set in the tex export.
So I suspect some problems with my toolchain. It would be nice to know if
someone ever got it working and if yes which toolchain he used e.g. the
texlive version and which pdf creation mechanism.
I'm still on texlive 2007 and tried dvipdfm, pdflatex and ps2pdf.
Tried the usual article class and the koma classes so far, none worked.

What did work was using an ERT and the breakurl package as described in
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=breaklinks.

Regards,
Sven

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=531992
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URL wraping - someone got it working?

2009-11-04 Thread Sven Hoexter
Hi,
did someone succeed in getting wraped and formated URLs in any document?
Background is that I tried to reproduce Debian bug #531992 [1].

The "Break links over lines" checkbox in the document settings is activated
and the 'breaklinks' setting is set in the tex export.
So I suspect some problems with my toolchain. It would be nice to know if
someone ever got it working and if yes which toolchain he used e.g. the
texlive version and which pdf creation mechanism.
I'm still on texlive 2007 and tried dvipdfm, pdflatex and ps2pdf.
Tried the usual article class and the koma classes so far, none worked.

What did work was using an ERT and the breakurl package as described in
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=breaklinks.

Regards,
Sven

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=531992
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Re: www.lyx.org

2009-10-30 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 04:37:43PM +0100, Konrad Blum wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I get a strange page, when trying to access www.lyx.org - and the
 given links are so slow...
 
 Any hint, what the situation ist?

There's been a mail from LGB that the university hosting the system is
switching to some new/different hardware and upgrading the operating system.

HTH
Sven
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Re: www.lyx.org

2009-10-30 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 04:37:43PM +0100, Konrad Blum wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I get a strange page, when trying to access www.lyx.org - and the
 given links are so slow...
 
 Any hint, what the situation ist?

There's been a mail from LGB that the university hosting the system is
switching to some new/different hardware and upgrading the operating system.

HTH
Sven
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I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: www.lyx.org

2009-10-30 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 04:37:43PM +0100, Konrad Blum wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I get a strange page, when trying to access www.lyx.org - and the
> given links are so slow...
> 
> Any hint, what the situation ist?

There's been a mail from LGB that the university hosting the system is
switching to some new/different hardware and upgrading the operating system.

HTH
Sven
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I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: Lyx and Ubuntu Hardy

2009-09-17 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 07:34:48PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:32:51 -0400
 Myriam Abramson mabram...@gmail.com dijo:

  Sorry, I'm new to Ubuntu (I was using Fedora before). Ubuntu comes
  with 1.5.3 and apt-get refuses to let me upgrade to a newer version. 
  I've tried to put that in the /etc/apt/sources.list but it didn't
  work:
  
  deb ftp://ftp.lyx.org/ubuntu hardy main 
  
  and then apt-get update and upgrade but no luck. 

That can't work because you need some infrastructue behind the scence
that provides the packages and meta information for apt.

 
 Go here and get the .deb file:
 
 http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/lyx-common/download

Bad idea. Mixing packages accross distribution boarders is not a good
idea for arch:all packages but can work but doing it for architecture
dependend binary packages definetly calls for trouble. Especially if
you pick them from a moving target like Debian/unstable.


On the one hand I'm amazed that Ubuntu is nowdays also hit by the
stable, stale getting rusty problem Debian/stable somehow faces since
ever. On the other Hand I've no clue how to fix it in an enduser friendly
way. And I wouldn't call my usual advice 'simply rebuild it in a local
pbuilder chroot' userfriendly even if there's some chance that the
current 1.6.4 Debian package would build without further problems.

So maybe the easy way out for the OP might be to switch away from the LTS
release to the latest whatever is 'stable'.

Sven
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I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: Lyx and Ubuntu Hardy

2009-09-17 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 03:15:12PM +0100, Sam Liddicott wrote:

 And yet... running XP wouldn't stop me using the latest Lyx on windows  
 so it's somewhat funny that a similar situation holds true for Ubuntu.

Actually nothing stops you from compiling the latest LyX release on
the Ubuntu release in question and use it. It's just not clickrun.
That's the price of diversity you pay for a more open operating system.
There is a benefit you get when you pay for a more closed plattform like
Windows or Mac OS (in this case: as long as there are community members
carring to provide builds - so thank the people doing the work).

Cheers,
Sven
-- 
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I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: Lyx and Ubuntu Hardy

2009-09-17 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 07:34:48PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:32:51 -0400
 Myriam Abramson mabram...@gmail.com dijo:

  Sorry, I'm new to Ubuntu (I was using Fedora before). Ubuntu comes
  with 1.5.3 and apt-get refuses to let me upgrade to a newer version. 
  I've tried to put that in the /etc/apt/sources.list but it didn't
  work:
  
  deb ftp://ftp.lyx.org/ubuntu hardy main 
  
  and then apt-get update and upgrade but no luck. 

That can't work because you need some infrastructue behind the scence
that provides the packages and meta information for apt.

 
 Go here and get the .deb file:
 
 http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/lyx-common/download

Bad idea. Mixing packages accross distribution boarders is not a good
idea for arch:all packages but can work but doing it for architecture
dependend binary packages definetly calls for trouble. Especially if
you pick them from a moving target like Debian/unstable.


On the one hand I'm amazed that Ubuntu is nowdays also hit by the
stable, stale getting rusty problem Debian/stable somehow faces since
ever. On the other Hand I've no clue how to fix it in an enduser friendly
way. And I wouldn't call my usual advice 'simply rebuild it in a local
pbuilder chroot' userfriendly even if there's some chance that the
current 1.6.4 Debian package would build without further problems.

So maybe the easy way out for the OP might be to switch away from the LTS
release to the latest whatever is 'stable'.

Sven
-- 
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I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: Lyx and Ubuntu Hardy

2009-09-17 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 03:15:12PM +0100, Sam Liddicott wrote:

 And yet... running XP wouldn't stop me using the latest Lyx on windows  
 so it's somewhat funny that a similar situation holds true for Ubuntu.

Actually nothing stops you from compiling the latest LyX release on
the Ubuntu release in question and use it. It's just not clickrun.
That's the price of diversity you pay for a more open operating system.
There is a benefit you get when you pay for a more closed plattform like
Windows or Mac OS (in this case: as long as there are community members
carring to provide builds - so thank the people doing the work).

Cheers,
Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: Lyx and Ubuntu Hardy

2009-09-17 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 07:34:48PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:32:51 -0400
> Myriam Abramson  dijo:

> > Sorry, I'm new to Ubuntu (I was using Fedora before). Ubuntu comes
> > with 1.5.3 and apt-get refuses to let me upgrade to a newer version. 
> > I've tried to put that in the /etc/apt/sources.list but it didn't
> > work:
> > 
> > deb ftp://ftp.lyx.org/ubuntu hardy main 
> > 
> > and then apt-get update and upgrade but no luck. 

That can't work because you need some infrastructue behind the scence
that provides the packages and meta information for apt.

 
> Go here and get the .deb file:
> 
> http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/lyx-common/download

Bad idea. Mixing packages accross distribution boarders is not a good
idea for arch:all packages but can work but doing it for architecture
dependend binary packages definetly calls for trouble. Especially if
you pick them from a moving target like Debian/unstable.


On the one hand I'm amazed that Ubuntu is nowdays also hit by the
stable, stale getting rusty problem Debian/stable somehow faces since
ever. On the other Hand I've no clue how to fix it in an enduser friendly
way. And I wouldn't call my usual advice 'simply rebuild it in a local
pbuilder chroot' userfriendly even if there's some chance that the
current 1.6.4 Debian package would build without further problems.

So maybe the easy way out for the OP might be to switch away from the LTS
release to the latest whatever is 'stable'.

Sven
-- 
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I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: Lyx and Ubuntu Hardy

2009-09-17 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 03:15:12PM +0100, Sam Liddicott wrote:

> And yet... running XP wouldn't stop me using the latest Lyx on windows  
> so it's somewhat funny that a similar situation holds true for Ubuntu.

Actually nothing stops you from compiling the latest LyX release on
the Ubuntu release in question and use it. It's just not click
That's the price of diversity you pay for a more open operating system.
There is a benefit you get when you pay for a more closed plattform like
Windows or Mac OS (in this case: as long as there are community members
carring to provide builds - so thank the people doing the work).

Cheers,
Sven
-- 
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I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: How Many use linux

2009-09-12 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:56:31PM +0100, Paul Drake wrote:
 I use Lyx on linux, and have been since 2003

I somehow missed the start of this thread. Did someone already mentaion
the popcon stats for Debian?
http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=lyx

The scaling for the lyx binary package is a bit out of scale since we moved
the latex-xft-fonts/ttf-lyx into the lyx source packaging. All in all it's
a steadily growing userbase using the Debian packages (excluding users using
them indirectly through *buntus and other derivations).

Sven, using LyX on Linux aswell ;)
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Re: How Many use linux

2009-09-12 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:56:31PM +0100, Paul Drake wrote:
 I use Lyx on linux, and have been since 2003

I somehow missed the start of this thread. Did someone already mentaion
the popcon stats for Debian?
http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=lyx

The scaling for the lyx binary package is a bit out of scale since we moved
the latex-xft-fonts/ttf-lyx into the lyx source packaging. All in all it's
a steadily growing userbase using the Debian packages (excluding users using
them indirectly through *buntus and other derivations).

Sven, using LyX on Linux aswell ;)
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We got the power to fight the devil
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Re: How Many use linux

2009-09-12 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:56:31PM +0100, Paul Drake wrote:
> I use Lyx on linux, and have been since 2003

I somehow missed the start of this thread. Did someone already mentaion
the popcon stats for Debian?
http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=lyx

The scaling for the lyx binary package is a bit out of scale since we moved
the latex-xft-fonts/ttf-lyx into the lyx source packaging. All in all it's
a steadily growing userbase using the Debian packages (excluding users using
them indirectly through *buntus and other derivations).

Sven, using LyX on Linux aswell ;)
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We got the power to fight the devil
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Re: 1.6.4 for Ubuntu 64?

2009-08-27 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 01:23:50PM +0200, Manveru wrote:
 2009/8/27 E. Kaplan ehud.kap...@mssm.edu:
  Is there any way of getting Lyx 1.6.4 for Kubuntu 64 bits?  The version in
  that is in the repositories is 1.6.2, I think.  Compiling from sources does
  not appeal to me.
 
 There is a LyX project on lanuchpad.net which builds the code for
 Ubuntu - I think automatically, but some has to merge the code I
 suppose. There is a URL you can set to get LyX from there instead of
 official repo, but I had not train it yet. Someone from LyX developers
 would take that over to force new rebuild every time new version
 arrives.

An upload of 1.6.4 to Debian unstable will happen soon [1]. After this
package hits unstable you can somehow request a sync from Ubuntu.
But they won't sync everything in every situation and they don't backport
everything for every old release.
So all in all it's quite specific what hits Ubuntu when and where. :)

Sven

[1] Yes, switching the VCS in use sometimes is a bit more tricky then
it looks like at a firce glance.
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Re: 1.6.4 for Ubuntu 64?

2009-08-27 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 01:23:50PM +0200, Manveru wrote:
 2009/8/27 E. Kaplan ehud.kap...@mssm.edu:
  Is there any way of getting Lyx 1.6.4 for Kubuntu 64 bits?  The version in
  that is in the repositories is 1.6.2, I think.  Compiling from sources does
  not appeal to me.
 
 There is a LyX project on lanuchpad.net which builds the code for
 Ubuntu - I think automatically, but some has to merge the code I
 suppose. There is a URL you can set to get LyX from there instead of
 official repo, but I had not train it yet. Someone from LyX developers
 would take that over to force new rebuild every time new version
 arrives.

An upload of 1.6.4 to Debian unstable will happen soon [1]. After this
package hits unstable you can somehow request a sync from Ubuntu.
But they won't sync everything in every situation and they don't backport
everything for every old release.
So all in all it's quite specific what hits Ubuntu when and where. :)

Sven

[1] Yes, switching the VCS in use sometimes is a bit more tricky then
it looks like at a firce glance.
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Re: 1.6.4 for Ubuntu 64?

2009-08-27 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 01:23:50PM +0200, Manveru wrote:
> 2009/8/27 E. Kaplan :
> > Is there any way of getting Lyx 1.6.4 for Kubuntu 64 bits?  The version in
> > that is in the repositories is 1.6.2, I think.  Compiling from sources does
> > not appeal to me.
> 
> There is a LyX project on lanuchpad.net which builds the code for
> Ubuntu - I think automatically, but some has to merge the code I
> suppose. There is a URL you can set to get LyX from there instead of
> official repo, but I had not train it yet. Someone from LyX developers
> would take that over to force new rebuild every time new version
> arrives.

An upload of 1.6.4 to Debian unstable will happen soon [1]. After this
package hits unstable you can somehow request a sync from Ubuntu.
But they won't sync everything in every situation and they don't backport
everything for every old release.
So all in all it's quite specific what hits Ubuntu when and where. :)

Sven

[1] Yes, switching the VCS in use sometimes is a bit more tricky then
it looks like at a firce glance.
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Re: lyx 1.6.2 + Ubuntu 9.04 = slow typing

2009-08-12 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:38:26AM -0400, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

Hi,

 3) I looked which video card I have (lspci |grep Display) - Intel
 Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
 I googled for problems with Intel graphics under Ubuntu 9, and
 found this link useful:
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582highlight=ubuntu+slow+update
 +jaunty
 
 This is worth posting to the wiki, if you're so inclined.

Intel drivers for the older chips are currently broken and in most cases
unusable. Phoronix wrote about it several times. The newer 9x chips seem to
work again with Linux 2.6.30+ and the latest 2.9 Intel drivers.

I've downgraded all my (Debian) systems with Intel 8x chips to an older
Xorg version and the  2.3.2-2+lenny6 intel driver from Lenny. Currently that
still works but someday it will break for sure.

So all in all I doubt this is somehow relevant for LyX it's more of a general
issue.

Sven
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Re: lyx 1.6.2 + Ubuntu 9.04 = slow typing

2009-08-12 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:38:26AM -0400, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

Hi,

 3) I looked which video card I have (lspci |grep Display) - Intel
 Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
 I googled for problems with Intel graphics under Ubuntu 9, and
 found this link useful:
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582highlight=ubuntu+slow+update
 +jaunty
 
 This is worth posting to the wiki, if you're so inclined.

Intel drivers for the older chips are currently broken and in most cases
unusable. Phoronix wrote about it several times. The newer 9x chips seem to
work again with Linux 2.6.30+ and the latest 2.9 Intel drivers.

I've downgraded all my (Debian) systems with Intel 8x chips to an older
Xorg version and the  2.3.2-2+lenny6 intel driver from Lenny. Currently that
still works but someday it will break for sure.

So all in all I doubt this is somehow relevant for LyX it's more of a general
issue.

Sven
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Re: lyx 1.6.2 + Ubuntu 9.04 = slow typing

2009-08-12 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:38:26AM -0400, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

Hi,

> >3) I looked which video card I have (lspci |grep Display) - Intel
> >Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
> >I googled for problems with Intel graphics under Ubuntu 9, and
> >found this link useful:
> >http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582=ubuntu+slow+update
> >+jaunty
> 
> This is worth posting to the wiki, if you're so inclined.

Intel drivers for the older chips are currently broken and in most cases
unusable. Phoronix wrote about it several times. The newer 9x chips seem to
work again with Linux 2.6.30+ and the latest 2.9 Intel drivers.

I've downgraded all my (Debian) systems with Intel 8x chips to an older
Xorg version and the  2.3.2-2+lenny6 intel driver from Lenny. Currently that
still works but someday it will break for sure.

So all in all I doubt this is somehow relevant for LyX it's more of a general
issue.

Sven
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Re: Fedora 11, Lyx 1.6.3 problem

2009-07-11 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:00:47PM -0400, Charley Wang wrote:

Hi,

 When I try to install Lyx 1.6.3 from source on F11, I get a  missing binary
 operator before (  error during make... Any idea what is wrong with it?
 Am I missing a library? Which one? :(

Maybe one of the gcc 4.4 problems with the old copy of boost shipped with LyX.
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org/msg152786.html


Install boost-devel and build with ./configure --without-included-boost


Beside that there is already a 1.6.3 src.rpm in rawhide.
http://mirror.atrpms.net/fedora/linux/development/source/SRPMS/lyx-1.6.3-1.fc12.src.rpm

Sven
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Re: Fedora 11, Lyx 1.6.3 problem

2009-07-11 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:00:47PM -0400, Charley Wang wrote:

Hi,

 When I try to install Lyx 1.6.3 from source on F11, I get a  missing binary
 operator before (  error during make... Any idea what is wrong with it?
 Am I missing a library? Which one? :(

Maybe one of the gcc 4.4 problems with the old copy of boost shipped with LyX.
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org/msg152786.html


Install boost-devel and build with ./configure --without-included-boost


Beside that there is already a 1.6.3 src.rpm in rawhide.
http://mirror.atrpms.net/fedora/linux/development/source/SRPMS/lyx-1.6.3-1.fc12.src.rpm

Sven
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Re: Fedora 11, Lyx 1.6.3 problem

2009-07-11 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:00:47PM -0400, Charley Wang wrote:

Hi,

> When I try to install Lyx 1.6.3 from source on F11, I get a " missing binary
> operator before "(" " error during make... Any idea what is wrong with it?
> Am I missing a library? Which one? :(

Maybe one of the gcc 4.4 problems with the old copy of boost shipped with LyX.
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org/msg152786.html


Install boost-devel and build with ./configure --without-included-boost


Beside that there is already a 1.6.3 src.rpm in rawhide.
http://mirror.atrpms.net/fedora/linux/development/source/SRPMS/lyx-1.6.3-1.fc12.src.rpm

Sven
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But all I remember is the freedom of old
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unofficial elyxer 0.23 Debian package

2009-05-24 Thread Sven Hoexter
Hi,
it will take some time until it will finally hit the archive so I've
decided to place pre-releases of the package on my site. These releases
have a '~pre' version so you'll upgrade automatically to the official
version once it hits the archive.

The package should work without problems on all current Debian flavours
starting with Lenny. Even *buntus and other forks  spin-offs with a Lenny
like base should work.

Enough said, here's the meat:
Source package 
http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/elyxer-pre/elyxer_0.23-1~pre1.dsc
Binary (arch:all) 
http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/elyxer-pre/elyxer_0.23-1~pre1_all.deb


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unofficial elyxer 0.23 Debian package

2009-05-24 Thread Sven Hoexter
Hi,
it will take some time until it will finally hit the archive so I've
decided to place pre-releases of the package on my site. These releases
have a '~pre' version so you'll upgrade automatically to the official
version once it hits the archive.

The package should work without problems on all current Debian flavours
starting with Lenny. Even *buntus and other forks  spin-offs with a Lenny
like base should work.

Enough said, here's the meat:
Source package 
http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/elyxer-pre/elyxer_0.23-1~pre1.dsc
Binary (arch:all) 
http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/elyxer-pre/elyxer_0.23-1~pre1_all.deb


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unofficial elyxer 0.23 Debian package

2009-05-24 Thread Sven Hoexter
Hi,
it will take some time until it will finally hit the archive so I've
decided to place pre-releases of the package on my site. These releases
have a '~pre' version so you'll upgrade automatically to the official
version once it hits the archive.

The package should work without problems on all current Debian flavours
starting with Lenny. Even *buntus and other forks & spin-offs with a Lenny
like base should work.

Enough said, here's the meat:
Source package 
http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/elyxer-pre/elyxer_0.23-1~pre1.dsc
Binary (arch:all) 
http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/elyxer-pre/elyxer_0.23-1~pre1_all.deb


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Re: Howto downgrade LyX 1.6.1 documents to LyX 1.5.5 documents?

2009-02-18 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 02:13:13PM -0600, Lance Simmons wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@bobjweil.com
 wrote:
 
  Better yet, upgrade to 1.5.7 (I think that's the number...last
  1.5.x anyway), which can read 1.6. docs.
 
 The reason the issue about 1.5.5 came up is my switching from Debian
 unstable to Debian stable (now that there's a new stable Debian
 release).  If I'm going to switch back to unstable Debian, or a
 stable/non-stable mix, I might as well keep LyX 1.6.1.

I hope to finish my Debian Application soon[1] so that I can provide again
LyX packages on backports.org for the current Debian stable release.
Will take some time though to get this all sorted out and done.

Oh and yes the freeze length for Lenny and the start point has been
suboptimal for the LyX packages in Debian.

Sven

[1] May or June is something that's realistic. 
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Re: Howto downgrade LyX 1.6.1 documents to LyX 1.5.5 documents?

2009-02-18 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 02:13:13PM -0600, Lance Simmons wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@bobjweil.com
 wrote:
 
  Better yet, upgrade to 1.5.7 (I think that's the number...last
  1.5.x anyway), which can read 1.6. docs.
 
 The reason the issue about 1.5.5 came up is my switching from Debian
 unstable to Debian stable (now that there's a new stable Debian
 release).  If I'm going to switch back to unstable Debian, or a
 stable/non-stable mix, I might as well keep LyX 1.6.1.

I hope to finish my Debian Application soon[1] so that I can provide again
LyX packages on backports.org for the current Debian stable release.
Will take some time though to get this all sorted out and done.

Oh and yes the freeze length for Lenny and the start point has been
suboptimal for the LyX packages in Debian.

Sven

[1] May or June is something that's realistic. 
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I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: Howto downgrade LyX 1.6.1 documents to LyX 1.5.5 documents?

2009-02-18 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 02:13:13PM -0600, Lance Simmons wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Richard Heck 
> wrote:
> >
> > Better yet, upgrade to 1.5.7 (I think that's the number...last
> > 1.5.x anyway), which can read 1.6. docs.
> 
> The reason the issue about 1.5.5 came up is my switching from Debian
> unstable to Debian stable (now that there's a new stable Debian
> release).  If I'm going to switch back to unstable Debian, or a
> stable/non-stable mix, I might as well keep LyX 1.6.1.

I hope to finish my Debian Application soon[1] so that I can provide again
LyX packages on backports.org for the current Debian stable release.
Will take some time though to get this all sorted out and done.

Oh and yes the freeze length for Lenny and the start point has been
suboptimal for the LyX packages in Debian.

Sven

[1] May or June is something that's realistic. 
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Re: LyX 1.6.1 binaries for Ubuntu

2008-12-19 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:44:33AM -0500, E. Kaplan wrote:
 I am running Kubuntu 8.10 64 bits, which had Lyx 1.5X in its repository,  
 and I was unable to upgrade to 1.6 because of the difference between the  
 32 bit and 64 bit architectures.

And this is how related to missing tex styles in Debian and Ubuntu? Sorry
missing your point somehow here.

Sven
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Re: LyX 1.6.1 binaries for Ubuntu

2008-12-19 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:44:33AM -0500, E. Kaplan wrote:
 I am running Kubuntu 8.10 64 bits, which had Lyx 1.5X in its repository,  
 and I was unable to upgrade to 1.6 because of the difference between the  
 32 bit and 64 bit architectures.

And this is how related to missing tex styles in Debian and Ubuntu? Sorry
missing your point somehow here.

Sven
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I'd say stay in bed, world
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Re: LyX 1.6.1 binaries for Ubuntu

2008-12-19 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:44:33AM -0500, E. Kaplan wrote:
> I am running Kubuntu 8.10 64 bits, which had Lyx 1.5X in its repository,  
> and I was unable to upgrade to 1.6 because of the difference between the  
> 32 bit and 64 bit architectures.

And this is how related to missing tex styles in Debian and Ubuntu? Sorry
missing your point somehow here.

Sven
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I'd say stay in bed, world
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Re: LyX 1.6.1 binaries for Ubuntu

2008-12-18 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 09:34:09AM +0200, Rainer M Krug wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:22 AM, E. Kaplan ehud.kap...@mssm.edu wrote:
  Then how do I upgrade 1.6.0 to 1.6.1 on kubuntu 64?
 
 Well - it is not only 94 bit -
 It is also Hardy (8.04) for which only 1.6.0 rc3 is available (And I
 would prefer not to compile from source).
 
 Is there a chance to build the binaries for all the most recent Ubuntu
 releases and possibly even create a repository for those which could
 be added in apt? That would really be brilliant and make it much
 easier for normal users to use the newest versions of LyX.

AFAIK Ubuntu provides a backport repository for some of the older
releases. That would be the place where you should ask about adding
the recent LyX releases.

Beside that there shouldn't be any technical problems with recompiling
the source package on older Ubuntu releases.

Maybe one should note that the latest math manual requires a TeX styles
that is not part of Debian and so I would guess it's also not part
of Ubuntu. That's not a major showstopper for most people but might be
against some kind of backporting policy.

Sven
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Re: LyX 1.6.1 binaries for Ubuntu

2008-12-18 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:21:22AM +0200, Rainer M Krug wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Sven Hoexter s...@timegate.de wrote:

Hi,

  Maybe one should note that the latest math manual requires a TeX styles
  that is not part of Debian and so I would guess it's also not part
  of Ubuntu. That's not a major showstopper for most people but might be
  against some kind of backporting policy.
 
 What about adding that one in a second package lyx-data, as several
 other packages are doing?

Bad idea. That's a TeX issue und should be managed with the TeX people.
I'll care for that when this whole xmas party thing is over.
Ideally those missing styles should be distributed with texlive but some
files have license issue or are just too new for the current stable texlive
distribution etc. pp.

Sven
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I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: LyX 1.6.1 binaries for Ubuntu

2008-12-18 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 09:34:09AM +0200, Rainer M Krug wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:22 AM, E. Kaplan ehud.kap...@mssm.edu wrote:
  Then how do I upgrade 1.6.0 to 1.6.1 on kubuntu 64?
 
 Well - it is not only 94 bit -
 It is also Hardy (8.04) for which only 1.6.0 rc3 is available (And I
 would prefer not to compile from source).
 
 Is there a chance to build the binaries for all the most recent Ubuntu
 releases and possibly even create a repository for those which could
 be added in apt? That would really be brilliant and make it much
 easier for normal users to use the newest versions of LyX.

AFAIK Ubuntu provides a backport repository for some of the older
releases. That would be the place where you should ask about adding
the recent LyX releases.

Beside that there shouldn't be any technical problems with recompiling
the source package on older Ubuntu releases.

Maybe one should note that the latest math manual requires a TeX styles
that is not part of Debian and so I would guess it's also not part
of Ubuntu. That's not a major showstopper for most people but might be
against some kind of backporting policy.

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: LyX 1.6.1 binaries for Ubuntu

2008-12-18 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:21:22AM +0200, Rainer M Krug wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Sven Hoexter s...@timegate.de wrote:

Hi,

  Maybe one should note that the latest math manual requires a TeX styles
  that is not part of Debian and so I would guess it's also not part
  of Ubuntu. That's not a major showstopper for most people but might be
  against some kind of backporting policy.
 
 What about adding that one in a second package lyx-data, as several
 other packages are doing?

Bad idea. That's a TeX issue und should be managed with the TeX people.
I'll care for that when this whole xmas party thing is over.
Ideally those missing styles should be distributed with texlive but some
files have license issue or are just too new for the current stable texlive
distribution etc. pp.

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: LyX 1.6.1 binaries for Ubuntu

2008-12-18 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 09:34:09AM +0200, Rainer M Krug wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:22 AM, E. Kaplan  wrote:
> > Then how do I upgrade 1.6.0 to 1.6.1 on kubuntu 64?
> 
> Well - it is not only 94 bit -
> It is also Hardy (8.04) for which only 1.6.0 rc3 is available (And I
> would prefer not to compile from source).
> 
> Is there a chance to build the binaries for all the most recent Ubuntu
> releases and possibly even create a repository for those which could
> be added in apt? That would really be brilliant and make it much
> easier for "normal" users to use the newest versions of LyX.

AFAIK Ubuntu provides a backport repository for some of the older
releases. That would be the place where you should ask about adding
the recent LyX releases.

Beside that there shouldn't be any technical problems with recompiling
the source package on older Ubuntu releases.

Maybe one should note that the latest math manual requires a TeX styles
that is not part of Debian and so I would guess it's also not part
of Ubuntu. That's not a major showstopper for most people but might be
against some kind of backporting policy.

Sven
-- 
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I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: LyX 1.6.1 binaries for Ubuntu

2008-12-18 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:21:22AM +0200, Rainer M Krug wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Sven Hoexter <s...@timegate.de> wrote:

Hi,

> > Maybe one should note that the latest math manual requires a TeX styles
> > that is not part of Debian and so I would guess it's also not part
> > of Ubuntu. That's not a major showstopper for most people but might be
> > against some kind of backporting policy.
> 
> What about adding that one in a second package lyx-data, as several
> other packages are doing?

Bad idea. That's a TeX issue und should be managed with the TeX people.
I'll care for that when this whole xmas party thing is over.
Ideally those missing styles should be distributed with texlive but some
files have license issue or are just too new for the current stable texlive
distribution etc. pp.

Sven
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I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: version management under windows

2008-12-07 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 01:49:18PM +0100, Niko Schwarz wrote:
 Does the versionmanagement thing work for anyone under windows and lyx 1.6?
 i cannot check in anything. it complains that some command line operation
 failed that was calling some ci function. whatever that is.
 cheers,

It requires an old unix tool called rcs[1]. I'm not sure if that ever has been
ported to windows. It should be included in cygwin[2] afaik so maybe that helps
to get it working on windows.

Sven

[1] GNU RCS: http://www.gnu.org/software/rcs/
[2] http://www.cygwin.com/
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Re: version management under windows

2008-12-07 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 01:49:18PM +0100, Niko Schwarz wrote:
 Does the versionmanagement thing work for anyone under windows and lyx 1.6?
 i cannot check in anything. it complains that some command line operation
 failed that was calling some ci function. whatever that is.
 cheers,

It requires an old unix tool called rcs[1]. I'm not sure if that ever has been
ported to windows. It should be included in cygwin[2] afaik so maybe that helps
to get it working on windows.

Sven

[1] GNU RCS: http://www.gnu.org/software/rcs/
[2] http://www.cygwin.com/
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Re: version management under windows

2008-12-07 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 01:49:18PM +0100, Niko Schwarz wrote:
> Does the versionmanagement thing work for anyone under windows and lyx 1.6?
> i cannot check in anything. it complains that some command line operation
> failed that was calling some "ci" function. whatever that is.
> cheers,

It requires an old unix tool called rcs[1]. I'm not sure if that ever has been
ported to windows. It should be included in cygwin[2] afaik so maybe that helps
to get it working on windows.

Sven

[1] GNU RCS: http://www.gnu.org/software/rcs/
[2] http://www.cygwin.com/
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Re: LyX 1.6.0 Cannot view pdf UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects

2008-11-28 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:16:14PM +0100, Helge Hafting wrote:
 Sven Hoexter wrote:

Hi,

 installing texlive-latex-extra should've solved that for you.

 The problem here is that the error message is not displayed within
 LyX IMHO.

 Sven
 Debian may want to add a package dependency then, or at least recommends ?

Would be too simple. Moving it up to the recommends would not only give you
the ~20MB texlive-latex-extra but also a lot of -doc packages of about 100MB.
I'm not yet sure if we really want to blow up the default 'apt-get install lyx'
by over 100MB.

More context here: 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=499629

Sven
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Re: LyX 1.6.0 Cannot view pdf UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects

2008-11-28 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:16:14PM +0100, Helge Hafting wrote:
 Sven Hoexter wrote:

Hi,

 installing texlive-latex-extra should've solved that for you.

 The problem here is that the error message is not displayed within
 LyX IMHO.

 Sven
 Debian may want to add a package dependency then, or at least recommends ?

Would be too simple. Moving it up to the recommends would not only give you
the ~20MB texlive-latex-extra but also a lot of -doc packages of about 100MB.
I'm not yet sure if we really want to blow up the default 'apt-get install lyx'
by over 100MB.

More context here: 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=499629

Sven
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Re: LyX 1.6.0 Cannot view pdf UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects

2008-11-28 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:16:14PM +0100, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Sven Hoexter wrote:

Hi,

>> installing texlive-latex-extra should've solved that for you.
>>
>> The problem here is that the error message is not displayed within
>> LyX IMHO.
>>
>> Sven
> Debian may want to add a package dependency then, or at least "recommends" ?

Would be too simple. Moving it up to the recommends would not only give you
the ~20MB texlive-latex-extra but also a lot of -doc packages of about 100MB.
I'm not yet sure if we really want to blow up the default 'apt-get install lyx'
by over 100MB.

More context here: 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=499629

Sven
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Re: Lyx 1.6 on ubuntu 8.04

2008-11-26 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:12:53AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, if you like them you could also use the packages I have been building 
 and linking in the LyX Wiki for some time now. They are not checkinstall 
 packages but packaged by hand and they also pull in a reasonable set of 
 dependencies: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Download (feel free to comment on those 
 here anyway)

I'm pretty sure I ranted about it before - when you don't use external
boost libs you should not depend on them. I'm not sure if pulling in useless
libs is something 'reasonable'.

What's so hard about simply using the latest /debian/ directory provided in
Debian and Ubuntu and just tweak where needed? Using pbuilder to build the
package as plus. And consider publishing sources for GPL'ed stuff.

Sven



Re: Lyx 1.6 on ubuntu 8.04

2008-11-26 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:12:53AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, if you like them you could also use the packages I have been building 
 and linking in the LyX Wiki for some time now. They are not checkinstall 
 packages but packaged by hand and they also pull in a reasonable set of 
 dependencies: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Download (feel free to comment on those 
 here anyway)

I'm pretty sure I ranted about it before - when you don't use external
boost libs you should not depend on them. I'm not sure if pulling in useless
libs is something 'reasonable'.

What's so hard about simply using the latest /debian/ directory provided in
Debian and Ubuntu and just tweak where needed? Using pbuilder to build the
package as plus. And consider publishing sources for GPL'ed stuff.

Sven



Re: Lyx 1.6 on ubuntu 8.04

2008-11-26 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:12:53AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Well, if you like them you could also use the packages I have been building 
> and linking in the LyX Wiki for some time now. They are not checkinstall 
> packages but packaged "by hand" and they also pull in a reasonable set of 
> dependencies: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Download (feel free to comment on those 
> here anyway)

I'm pretty sure I ranted about it before - when you don't use external
boost libs you should not depend on them. I'm not sure if pulling in useless
libs is something 'reasonable'.

What's so hard about simply using the latest /debian/ directory provided in
Debian and Ubuntu and just tweak where needed? Using pbuilder to build the
package as plus. And consider publishing sources for GPL'ed stuff.

Sven



Re: LyX 1.6.0 Cannot view pdf UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects

2008-11-22 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:42:26AM +0800, Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote:

 Thank you, I found specificly the ltcaption.sty from
 http://home.in.tum.de/~gagern/E-JC/
 
 copied to /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/
 from terminal: sudo texhash
 from lyx: Tools  reconfigure then restart
 
 Now .. both LyX 1.6.0 and 1.5.5 in Ubuntu 8.04 can view the
 doc/EmbeddedObjects

installing texlive-latex-extra should've solved that for you.

The problem here is that the error message is not displayed within
LyX IMHO.

Sven
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I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: LyX 1.6.0 Cannot view pdf UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects

2008-11-22 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:42:26AM +0800, Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote:

 Thank you, I found specificly the ltcaption.sty from
 http://home.in.tum.de/~gagern/E-JC/
 
 copied to /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/
 from terminal: sudo texhash
 from lyx: Tools  reconfigure then restart
 
 Now .. both LyX 1.6.0 and 1.5.5 in Ubuntu 8.04 can view the
 doc/EmbeddedObjects

installing texlive-latex-extra should've solved that for you.

The problem here is that the error message is not displayed within
LyX IMHO.

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: LyX 1.6.0 Cannot view pdf UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects

2008-11-22 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:42:26AM +0800, Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote:

> Thank you, I found specificly the ltcaption.sty from
> http://home.in.tum.de/~gagern/E-JC/
> 
> copied to /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/
> from terminal: sudo texhash
> from lyx: Tools > reconfigure then restart
> 
> Now .. both LyX 1.6.0 and 1.5.5 in Ubuntu 8.04 can view the
> doc/EmbeddedObjects

installing texlive-latex-extra should've solved that for you.

The problem here is that the error message is not displayed within
LyX IMHO.

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: LyX 1.6.0 Cannot view pdf UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects

2008-11-19 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 08:01:10AM +0800, Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote:

Hi,

 I installed 1.6.0 in Ubuntu 8.04, but I cannot view pdf the
 documentations UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects. Lyx List error window
 will pop up with no information at all in Errors box nor Description
 box.
 
 There is an information in EmbeddedObjects that I must install
 arydshln, colortbl, marginnote, and sidecap. I think I did that as there
 is no problem in 1.5.5 (still running) and I can open all documentations
 1.5.5.

We also got a report for this issue in the Debian BTS.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=506183

I can reproduce the problem with the empty error box in case of missing
latex packages which should not happen. When I install the missing
texlive-latex-extra package (this is another issue tracked in
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=499629) I've no further
problems but Per and the bugreporter still have the problem that the
document is generated but not opened.


Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: LyX 1.6.0 Cannot view pdf UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects

2008-11-19 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 08:01:10AM +0800, Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote:

Hi,

 I installed 1.6.0 in Ubuntu 8.04, but I cannot view pdf the
 documentations UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects. Lyx List error window
 will pop up with no information at all in Errors box nor Description
 box.
 
 There is an information in EmbeddedObjects that I must install
 arydshln, colortbl, marginnote, and sidecap. I think I did that as there
 is no problem in 1.5.5 (still running) and I can open all documentations
 1.5.5.

We also got a report for this issue in the Debian BTS.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=506183

I can reproduce the problem with the empty error box in case of missing
latex packages which should not happen. When I install the missing
texlive-latex-extra package (this is another issue tracked in
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=499629) I've no further
problems but Per and the bugreporter still have the problem that the
document is generated but not opened.


Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: LyX 1.6.0 Cannot view pdf UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects

2008-11-19 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 08:01:10AM +0800, Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote:

Hi,

> I installed 1.6.0 in Ubuntu 8.04, but I cannot view pdf the
> documentations "UserGuide" and "EmbeddedObjects". Lyx List error window
> will pop up with no information at all in Errors box nor Description
> box.
> 
> There is an information in "EmbeddedObjects" that I must install
> arydshln, colortbl, marginnote, and sidecap. I think I did that as there
> is no problem in 1.5.5 (still running) and I can open all documentations
> 1.5.5.

We also got a report for this issue in the Debian BTS.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=506183

I can reproduce the problem with the empty error box in case of missing
latex packages which should not happen. When I install the missing
texlive-latex-extra package (this is another issue tracked in
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=499629) I've no further
problems but Per and the bugreporter still have the problem that the
document is generated but not opened.


Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: Update 1.5.5 to 1.6.0 in Ubuntu

2008-11-10 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 03:39:01PM +0800, Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote:

Hi,

 a) If I want to update from 1.5.6 to the latest version 1.6.0 in Ubuntu,

I'd say you'd better grab some beer and wait a few days. Normaly
Ubuntu auto-syncs and rebuilds from Debian regularly. Maybe opening a wishlist
bug in this Launchpad thingy can speed this up to get someone to sync
manually.

 
 b) In version 1.6.0, can I read  files created by previous version (1.5.5
 and 1.5.6)

Of course you can.

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: Update 1.5.5 to 1.6.0 in Ubuntu

2008-11-10 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 03:39:01PM +0800, Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote:

Hi,

 a) If I want to update from 1.5.6 to the latest version 1.6.0 in Ubuntu,

I'd say you'd better grab some beer and wait a few days. Normaly
Ubuntu auto-syncs and rebuilds from Debian regularly. Maybe opening a wishlist
bug in this Launchpad thingy can speed this up to get someone to sync
manually.

 
 b) In version 1.6.0, can I read  files created by previous version (1.5.5
 and 1.5.6)

Of course you can.

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: Update 1.5.5 to 1.6.0 in Ubuntu

2008-11-10 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 03:39:01PM +0800, Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote:

Hi,

> a) If I want to update from 1.5.6 to the latest version 1.6.0 in Ubuntu,

I'd say you'd better grab some beer and wait a few days. Normaly
Ubuntu auto-syncs and rebuilds from Debian regularly. Maybe opening a wishlist
bug in this Launchpad thingy can speed this up to get someone to sync
manually.

 
> b) In version 1.6.0, can I read  files created by previous version (1.5.5
> and 1.5.6)

Of course you can.

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: lyx 1.6.x on debian

2008-11-07 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 02:28:40PM +, Sam Lewis wrote:

Hi Sam,

 It's great to to have the 1.6.0~beta4-1 package in experimental, with 
 matching
 dependencies of testing. Thank you kindly, maintainer Sven Hoexter, for your
 effort!

Thanks but I'm not alone. Per also did a lot in the past and is still one of the
forces behind the packaging for Debian. From time to time we even have very 
helpfull
support from Georg. :)


 Does anyone know whether, RC5 is a candidate for experimental? Or how close 
 is
 1.6.0 to make it into any Debian stream?

Well beside travelling my focus during the summer was on helping to release 
lenny
which is in a good shape now but not released and work on my Debian Developer 
application.
So in general it's a we just need to pick it up issue.

I'll see if I find the time to upgrade the version in our repository to the 
latest
LyX RC and get Per to upload it next week.

Sven


Re: lyx 1.6.x on debian

2008-11-07 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:16:45AM -0500, Richard Heck wrote:
 Sven Hoexter wrote:
 I'll see if I find the time to upgrade the version in our repository to the 
 latest
 LyX RC and get Per to upload it next week.

   
 LyX 1.6 is due out today, so if you're going to package something,  
 package that!

Ah thanks for the hint Richard. I didn't follow the lists during the last weeks.

Sven


Re: lyx 1.6.x on debian

2008-11-07 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 02:28:40PM +, Sam Lewis wrote:

Hi Sam,

 It's great to to have the 1.6.0~beta4-1 package in experimental, with 
 matching
 dependencies of testing. Thank you kindly, maintainer Sven Hoexter, for your
 effort!

Thanks but I'm not alone. Per also did a lot in the past and is still one of the
forces behind the packaging for Debian. From time to time we even have very 
helpfull
support from Georg. :)


 Does anyone know whether, RC5 is a candidate for experimental? Or how close 
 is
 1.6.0 to make it into any Debian stream?

Well beside travelling my focus during the summer was on helping to release 
lenny
which is in a good shape now but not released and work on my Debian Developer 
application.
So in general it's a we just need to pick it up issue.

I'll see if I find the time to upgrade the version in our repository to the 
latest
LyX RC and get Per to upload it next week.

Sven


Re: lyx 1.6.x on debian

2008-11-07 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:16:45AM -0500, Richard Heck wrote:
 Sven Hoexter wrote:
 I'll see if I find the time to upgrade the version in our repository to the 
 latest
 LyX RC and get Per to upload it next week.

   
 LyX 1.6 is due out today, so if you're going to package something,  
 package that!

Ah thanks for the hint Richard. I didn't follow the lists during the last weeks.

Sven


Re: lyx 1.6.x on debian

2008-11-07 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 02:28:40PM +, Sam Lewis wrote:

Hi Sam,

> It's great to to have the 1.6.0~beta4-1 package in "experimental", with 
> matching
> dependencies of "testing". Thank you kindly, maintainer Sven Hoexter, for your
> effort!

Thanks but I'm not alone. Per also did a lot in the past and is still one of the
forces behind the packaging for Debian. From time to time we even have very 
helpfull
support from Georg. :)


> Does anyone know whether, RC5 is a candidate for "experimental"? Or how close 
> is
> 1.6.0 to make it into any Debian stream?

Well beside travelling my focus during the summer was on helping to release 
lenny
which is in a good shape now but not released and work on my Debian Developer 
application.
So in general it's a "we just need to pick it up" issue.

I'll see if I find the time to upgrade the version in our repository to the 
latest
LyX RC and get Per to upload it next week.

Sven


Re: lyx 1.6.x on debian

2008-11-07 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:16:45AM -0500, Richard Heck wrote:
> Sven Hoexter wrote:
>> I'll see if I find the time to upgrade the version in our repository to the 
>> latest
>> LyX RC and get Per to upload it next week.
>>
>>   
> LyX 1.6 is due out today, so if you're going to package something,  
> package that!

Ah thanks for the hint Richard. I didn't follow the lists during the last weeks.

Sven


Re: lyx 1.5.x under debian

2008-10-23 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 07:49:33AM +, Guenter Milde wrote:
 Wolfgang Engelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
  I try to get the latest 1.5 lyx under debian and entered 
  in /etc/apt/sources.list
  # Testing
  deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/emiscabpo/lyx15-bpo/
 
  but synaptic does not like this line. 
 
 Instead of third-party extensions you might be safer with mixing
 Debian/stable with Debian/testing. Add e.g.
 
 deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib

Emilios repository is ok and recommended for Debian/etch.
I'm not sure if Wolfgang is running testing or just wrote testing
over this line to indicate that he's testing this entry.


  I also tried to update texlive et Co., but the latest version is 2005
 
 Debian/testing provides texlive 2007 und LyX 1.5.6
 
 apt will make sure that all dependencies are met.
 
 If you do not want an update orgy, ensure that the update all
 packages to latest version feature is turned off.

Well donno if upgrading to lenny now is what he wants and mixing
packages from etch and lenny is nothing I would ever recommend.
So if you switch to lenny this will be an all or nothing choice.

Sven
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I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
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Re: lyx 1.5.x under debian

2008-10-23 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 03:32:07PM +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Hi Wolfgang,

 I try to get the latest 1.5 lyx under debian and entered 
 in /etc/apt/sources.list
 # Testing
 deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/emiscabpo/lyx15-bpo/

 but synaptic does not like this line. 

Those packages are only for etch and there they work 1.5.5 is in testing and
unstable and there are only minor things fixed in 1.5.6.
(Well depending on what you use ...)

The experimental packages of 1.6beta are a bit outdated I've
to admit.

 I also tried to update texlive et Co., but the latest version is 2005, which 
 seems to me a bit antique. It also asks for libgnome2-perl, which I can't get 
 if I search for it in synaptic (nor libgnome). Which package is responsible 
 for it?
2005 is in etch afair and those packages should be installed if you've no 
installation
of tetex. That's or'ed in the depedency.

 I would appreciate hints from one of you who uses Debian and has successfully 
 installed Lyx 1.5.4

If you're using etch Emilios repository is fine but maybe you could try apt-get
in the terminal so that's easier to see what's going wrong. Synaptic seems to
surpress sometimes error messages.

Ciao,
Sven


Re: lyx 1.5.x under debian

2008-10-23 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 07:49:33AM +, Guenter Milde wrote:
 Wolfgang Engelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
  I try to get the latest 1.5 lyx under debian and entered 
  in /etc/apt/sources.list
  # Testing
  deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/emiscabpo/lyx15-bpo/
 
  but synaptic does not like this line. 
 
 Instead of third-party extensions you might be safer with mixing
 Debian/stable with Debian/testing. Add e.g.
 
 deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib

Emilios repository is ok and recommended for Debian/etch.
I'm not sure if Wolfgang is running testing or just wrote testing
over this line to indicate that he's testing this entry.


  I also tried to update texlive et Co., but the latest version is 2005
 
 Debian/testing provides texlive 2007 und LyX 1.5.6
 
 apt will make sure that all dependencies are met.
 
 If you do not want an update orgy, ensure that the update all
 packages to latest version feature is turned off.

Well donno if upgrading to lenny now is what he wants and mixing
packages from etch and lenny is nothing I would ever recommend.
So if you switch to lenny this will be an all or nothing choice.

Sven
-- 
If God passed a mic to me to speak
I'd say stay in bed, world
Sleep in peace
   [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]


Re: lyx 1.5.x under debian

2008-10-23 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 03:32:07PM +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Hi Wolfgang,

 I try to get the latest 1.5 lyx under debian and entered 
 in /etc/apt/sources.list
 # Testing
 deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/emiscabpo/lyx15-bpo/

 but synaptic does not like this line. 

Those packages are only for etch and there they work 1.5.5 is in testing and
unstable and there are only minor things fixed in 1.5.6.
(Well depending on what you use ...)

The experimental packages of 1.6beta are a bit outdated I've
to admit.

 I also tried to update texlive et Co., but the latest version is 2005, which 
 seems to me a bit antique. It also asks for libgnome2-perl, which I can't get 
 if I search for it in synaptic (nor libgnome). Which package is responsible 
 for it?
2005 is in etch afair and those packages should be installed if you've no 
installation
of tetex. That's or'ed in the depedency.

 I would appreciate hints from one of you who uses Debian and has successfully 
 installed Lyx 1.5.4

If you're using etch Emilios repository is fine but maybe you could try apt-get
in the terminal so that's easier to see what's going wrong. Synaptic seems to
surpress sometimes error messages.

Ciao,
Sven


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