I don't know of this game or if it's on audiogames.com but I'm sure
those guys would add it if it isn't already there.
If you're looking for first person shooter, David Greenwood's Shades
of Doom is amazing on Windows. He has some other 3D games that are
masterfully crafted as well and
Including the two textbook chapters (one entirely on games and another
with a portion on audio games), a couple of peer reviewed articles on
the matter, a pile of blog articles (http://www.blindconfidential.blogspot.com
) and the odd item here and there, I have studied a handful of audio
. Even
feedback to say what is in front of you in the direction you are
pointing. Should be good things coming.
CB
Chris Hofstader wrote:
Including the two textbook chapters (one entirely on games and
another
with a portion on audio games), a couple of peer reviewed articles
Hi,
Would it be useful if I started a 3dau...@lists.hofstader.com? I
think we have a few people interested and private communication will
cause some ideas to slip through , leaving some of the gang with a
different set of notions than others which can cause real confusion as
-for-iphone-does-not-support-hrtf.html
Would be nice if these guys ported the Mac fmod sound system to
iPhone:
http://www.garagegames.com/community/blogs/view/16489
CB
Chris Hofstader wrote:
The most accurate spatial audio information uses a technique
called Head Relative Transform
Which site?
On Jul 31, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:
I get an internal server error, with that site.
Mark BurningHawk
Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
My home page:
http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
with Snow Leopard... grumble). Anyway I just want to get raw input.
James
On 7/31/09, Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com wrote:
Which site?
On Jul 31, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:
I get an internal server error, with that site.
Mark BurningHawk
Skype and Twitter
mode, so it's easy
to turn one off while enabling the other…
HTH and have a terrific day / weekend!…
Smiles,
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On Jul 30, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Chris Hofstader
I agree with your recomendation but would add that the Shure earplug
style sound great but I wouldn't walk outside with them as they block
out almost all external sounds and a hybrid might be coming down the
street.
I got my Shure set at the Apple store in South Beach where I feel very
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On Jul 31, 2009, at 4:59 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
The most accurate spatial audio information uses a technique
called Head Relative Transform Functions (HRTF) which simulates
relatively precise tonal qualities of sounds
When you first turn on a new Macintosh you can just wait a minute or
two and VoiceOver will launch assuming that you might not know a
specific keystroke before you have the Mac to read
On Aug 2, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Joe Quinn wrote:
does anyone know if second life is accessible on the Mac?
Hi,
I've had trouble getting the iPhone Maps app to work as I would want
it to. I read the chapter on iPhone Maps in the documentation
(chapter 13) about five times and still cannot figure out how to get
it to tell me my current location as a street name or something useful
but,
When iTunes dropped DRM, they let the copyright holders pick prices
for songs and albums so they will probably not all be the same anymore.
On Aug 6, 2009, at 7:48 AM, william lomas wrote:
hi why have the itunes prices for single tracks gone up in the UK?
any ideas?
Hi,
I have a near legendary case of repetitive stress injuries in both
hands, wrists, forearms and shoulders. For the work I do, I need to
generate a whole lot of text. I tried MacSpeech Dictate and I find
that many of its features (especially those borrowed directly from
Naturally
wrote:
ah damn the prices per song now are way to expensive now forget it
lol
On 6 Aug 2009, at 13:53, Chris Hofstader wrote:
When iTunes dropped DRM, they let the copyright holders pick prices
for songs and albums so they will probably not all be the same
anymore.
On Aug 6, 2009, at 7:48
opening a
new mail, switching to the finder and such can be done via spoken
words.
It's baked into the OS so give it a whirl. Hopefully somebody else has
suggestions for the dictation software.
CB
Chris Hofstader wrote:
Hi,
I have a near legendary case of repetitive stress injuries in both
2009, at 14:09, Chris Hofstader wrote:
Hi,
While I have had and enjoyed my iPhone for about a month and a
half, I
hadn't, before yesterday, needed to switch between running tasks.
Specifically, I was following directions to our local YWCA using
Navigon yesterday. I received a phone call
are
supposed to keep their state information so when you come back its as
though you never left.
CB
Chris Hofstader wrote:
Hi,
While I have had and enjoyed my iPhone for about a month and a
half, I
hadn't, before yesterday, needed to switch between running tasks.
Specifically, I
:01 AM, william lomas wrote:
what will the update in december contain for navigon?
On 10 Aug 2009, at 18:50, Chris Hofstader wrote:
EI don't do podcasts. I will write some blog entries on this stuff
soon (www.blindconfidential.blogspot.com).
Of those available to blinks, Wayfinder
I tried Skype on the iPhone and found that I could not get into the
list of contacts in order to make a call. My sighted wife looked at
the screen and, with VO running, she couldn't figure out how to pick a
contact either. I think someone on the other VO list suggested a
program that
,
FYI Humanware Trekker is not using the Sendero SDK.
Chris
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:01:26 +0100
william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com wrote:
what will the update in december contain for navigon?
On 10 Aug 2009, at 18:50, Chris Hofstader wrote:
EI don't do podcasts. I will write some
the program that i can
listen to?
On 11 Aug 2009, at 13:13, Chris Hofstader wrote:
there has been no official announcement of what the December update
of
Navigon will contain. I know of a few people in close contact with
the guys who make Navigon and have heard some rumours and insider
As the Stream has exports a generic external mass storage device
profile, why can't OSX just recognize it as an external hard disk and
let one copy files to and from it using Finder?
On Aug 11, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
Hi Chris,
Were you able to find out anything from
Trekker is not using the Sendero SDK.
Chris
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:01:26 +0100
william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com wrote:
what will the update in december contain for navigon?
On 10 Aug 2009, at 18:50, Chris Hofstader wrote:
EI don't do podcasts. I will write some blog entries
, Chris Hofstader wrote:
EI don't do podcasts. I will write some blog entries on this
stuff
soon (www.blindconfidential.blogspot.com).
Of those available to blinks, Wayfinder is the one I know the
least
about as I only used it for a month or so about a year ago.
Almost
all
can now
connect to the mac.
--
From: Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:39 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: connecting victor Stream to a Mac
As the Stream has exports a generic external
guy who
uses Voiceover on his laptop read off long reports while he is
driving to work. Why not? Universal design goes both ways and I'm
sure he wouldn't have sprung for Jaws just to do that.
CB
Chris Hofstader wrote:
No! If we expect mainstream companies, like Apple for instance
a company does things right. I
have lots of examples of when companies do things wrong (Target,
PriceLine, Ramada and recently CVS). I'd like more carrot and less
stick when I do presentations to developers or at conferences.
CB
Chris Hofstader wrote:
Hello Chris the Other,
I agree
, Ramada and recently CVS). I'd like more carrot and less
stick when I do presentations to developers or at conferences.
CB
Chris Hofstader wrote:
Hello Chris the Other,
I agree with your thoughts on universal design. Six or seven
years ago we found that a lot of rehab counselors were
What is an EPS?
On Aug 16, 2009, at 10:36 AM, graham wrote:
Hi,
I was looking for a piece of software and tried going to Greg
Kearney's webpage which rated many aps and how they performed with
Voiceover.
for some reason the link appears to be broken.
Voiceover resources and links
Hi,
Tomf Tom comes up in AppStore for me. It explicitly states that it is
an automobile solution. They are one of the companies who have there
own UI layer to speed up ports to other systems which, as regards
accessibility, is usually a disaster.
I had a series of conversations with
Hi,
This may be an RTFM but I have read the iPhone manual and have just
reread the Utube section and couldn't find a suitable answer to my
question. My caffeine milligrams per hour ratio is dangerously low so
I may have entirely overlooked something.
When I open the Utube app from the
Jeez, we have nine different Apple products in our house and collectively they
don't add up to $17,000. I'd be afraid of such a beast as nothing I do with a
computer could possibly warrant that much power. So, if I had that sort of
money, I suppose I would keep my current stuff and put a big
Many years ago when the Open Software Foundation was around (now it's smaller
and called Linux Foundation), a friend of mine thought he was replying only to
his boss - instead, he sent the note to the entire board of directors and
steering committee - which, back in those days, read like a
products at five!
Olivia
On Apr 16, 2010, at 7:46 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
Jeez, we have nine different Apple products in our house and collectively
they don't add up to $17,000. I'd be afraid of such a beast as nothing I do
with a computer could possibly warrant that much power. So
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On Apr 16, 2010, at 3:35 PM, olivia norman wrote:
Nine apple products? I thought I had a lot of apple products at five!
Olivia
On Apr 16, 2010, at 7:46 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
Jeez, we have nine different Apple products in our house and collectively
I noticed that a software update that arrived last week was related to
security. I don't know what it does but it could be anything from standard UNIX
like crypto stuff to malware related functionality.
Last I heard, though, was that there were no known virus for the Mac in the
wild but some
jp: Well this is a law suit waiting and begging to be picked up and they will
win it. This is going against the your US right as a citizen. Called Freedom
of speech and Freedom of Press! So I think this is why Apple changed it mind
This is like saying you can surf the internet but here is
rl: This is rather surprising, that they would do this. Regarding the 18+
thing, there are apps that won't download unless you consent that you are not
a minor. Unfortunately, that requires a simple yes/no click, but at the same
time, it's after your password, so that's some layer of
Hi,
With my new job as Director of Access Technology for Project GNU/Free
Software Foundation, I am so busy that I can hardly keep up with work
let alone follow these lists.
I thank you all for the help you have given me over the past two years
since I got my first MacBook and I hoped I
There are about a bazillion utilities that come from the UNIX base on which OSX
sits that are all command line accessible. You can do a lot of stuff with
htese tools which have been around for an eternity so are well tried and true.
cdh
On Nov 28, 2009, at 10:38 AM, .dan. wrote:
I'm very
Apple has a pretty flat management structure with different teams acting nearly
autonomously as if they were separate companies.
The iWork team is one such business unit and may or may not place a high value
on accessibility. The access technology group who make VO and the other
universal
I would think that an appeal to the European Union section on disability would
probably result in a reversal in this decision. The lawsuit in question
started a long time ago and used a pretty crufty version of VO which wasn't too
usable in many areas. With all of the improvements since,
This should be moved to the bs list...
Getting government agencies or the non-profits with whom they contract to
provide such services in the US is really a hard problem to solve in the
current economic climate.
First off, a lot of people in the consumer services side of these organizations
think we agree on many
points all be it from a different point of view. :)
On Nov 29, 2009, at 8:10 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
This should be moved to the bs list...
Getting government agencies or the non-profits with whom they contract to
provide such services in the US is really a hard
I often share the frustration but I don't think the blame is entirely with the
agencies. People blind from childhood are far more likely to be independent
than are those of us who, like me, went blind later in life from RP or some
other degenerative disorder or accident. The kids are in the
My only valuable experience with an agency was learning the little bit of
braille that I know at a local Lighthouse. I've had lots of friends work at
such places and I believe they do as good as they can under constant budgetary
pressures and I think these people do so with hope rather than my
Hi,
Because the viphone, MacVisionaries and MacVoiceOver lists all have specific
purposes, we launched the vo-bs mailing list where conversations not
appropriate to the actual meat of these other lists can go. Sometimes when a
thread gets off topic, it is moved for further comment to the
Senators Harkin, Hagel, the late Kennedy and Feingold (perhaps others) did
discuss an access technology provision but got slapped down by both parties for
adding cost to the bill. Some might argue that the ADA restoration act of 2008
(signed by President Bush in August of last year without
I CC'd the bs list on this post and I think we should probably move it there...
The operative phrase in your post is from your employer which points us to a
chicken and egg problem - people can't get jobs until they learn to use a
screen reader and they can't really get a screen reader (or
you live, and of course the money factor plays a huge roll.
On Nov 30, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
I often share the frustration but I don't think the blame is entirely with
the agencies. People blind from childhood are far more likely to be
independent than are those
NFB does not actually try to push people toward JAWS and Windows. Their
Macintosh/VO review was a pathetic example of poor journalism but they do and
say rather mean things about lots of other products from FS and elsewhere.
At one NFB convention, because OpenBook had fewer features in the
According to NFB numbers, there are 1.5 blind people and about 10 million low
vision in the US. With a total population of over 300 million, we are an
absolutely tiny fraction of the population.
cdh
On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:50 PM, carlene knight wrote:
Unfortunately you have to be realistic
I am so sick of teaching random citizens about guide dogs, blindness, that I
don't need a wheelchair or assistance walking up a jet way, how I can dial a
telephone, how I can pee into a urinal without missing - you name it, that I
can almost explode.
An anecdote: In Harvard Square, the rapid
That phone, called Oasis in the US, was an entirely private venture although
they did get a loan from Once in Spain on which I think they defaulted. I am
good friends with one of the people who led the organization here in the US and
she's using an iPhone these days.
As I've said, a mass
My ultimate trigger are the people who ask, does he want a braille menu? or
something similar as if I wasn't actually there. This is a real zero level
interrupt for me that I need to fight hard not to blow out a sequence of
profanity (I am originally from New Jersey where such language is
The Windows AT vendors and to a large extent some of the advocacy groups argue
that MS should not try to include accessibility out of the box. The AT vendors
want, of course to protect their turf, but do so with the notion that MS will
screw it up and cannot be relied upon to actually make it
I think VO does a poor job with spreadsheets, containing none of the semantic
navigation features in JAWS or WE. It generally does a hardly adequate job in
all tabular constructs and struggles with complex web 2.0 apps like googledocs.
On Dec 1, 2009, at 5:47 PM, James Nash wrote:
Hi,
I'm
not just excel.
I believe web 2.0 is going to reek havoc for screen reader users for many
years regardless of the screen reader.
-Original Message-
From: Chris Hofstader [mailto:c...@hofstader.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:22 AM
To: macvisionaries
While VO works very well in most cases without scripting, I would assume that
one could add the really interesting augmentations that JAWS and WE provide in
a lot of programs to make their users interactions more efficient.
I really want to explore doing this but I haven't had the time or
improved narrator, FS and GWM are facing that same pressure as a result of
voiceover and nvda anyway.
- Original Message -
From: Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: Economics and the Mac
Ted
I actually think VO provides much better support for the stuff that ships
installed on a Macintosh than JAWS does with a lot of the Windows stuff. VO
may miss a few things (I find TimeMachine restores pretty hard to use with VO
and Spaces is far from obvious with VO) but JAWS still doesn't
on another
list I belong to like a program call Tables for this purpose. Currently I
don't work with tables but thought this might be of interest. I may be way
off the mark.
On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
If you don't like JAWS in spreadsheets then you will hate
I think this argument can be nicely informed by looking at Jamal Mazrui's
Dueling Operating Systems presentation at CSUN 2009. He has an expert in
JAWS, VO and orca perform identical tasks and one can watch/hear how well each
performs.
On Dec 2, 2009, at 2:36 PM, John G. Him wrote:
Well,
worked as it should.
TC
James
On 2 Dec 2009, at 19:35, Chris Hofstader wrote:
I actually think VO provides much better support for the stuff that ships
installed on a Macintosh than JAWS does with a lot of the Windows stuff. VO
may miss a few things (I find TimeMachine restores pretty
: Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: Economics and the Mac
I actually think VO provides much better support for the stuff that ships
installed on a Macintosh than JAWS does with a lot of the Windows
and just one fairly obscure thing for jaws and windows.
Plus, it would seem to me that if you can use the jaws cursor to get
something done, that's a point in favor of jaws, not against it.
- Original Message -
From: Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com
To: macvisionaries
and all of your listed issues will be resolved.
Good luck, Go nfb :(
On Dec 1, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
I am so sick of teaching random citizens about guide dogs, blindness, that
I don't need a wheelchair or assistance walking up a jet way, how I can
dial a telephone
This subject line is driving me nuts as every time I hear it I think it is VO
talking and not a subject for an email.
On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:09 PM, carlene knight wrote:
I must be doing something wrong. What do I type in the folder name?
Library/preferences was not found. I feel really
but it didn't cause
anyone to lose work or need to reboot.
On Dec 3, 2009, at 1:59 PM, carlene knight wrote:
Sorry, I'll change it. That's one of those things I didn't think about until
after I had started it.
On Dec 3, 2009, at 4:59 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
This subject line is driving me
that really compare to
using a real track pad? There's no separate trackpad as far as i know, or am
i wrong here?
/Krister
3 dec 2009 kl. 13.45 skrev Chris Hofstader:
The combination of the spatial information provided by object navigation and
that one gets in Trackpad Commander provides
I haven't tried this at all so I am just providing a reasonably well educated
guess based on what we did to get JAWS to work with MS Access:
The table view was, in our case, already pretty accessible but we had to label
some graphics and put in some scripts to read the column headers. We may
Actually, the latest and greatest voice recognition systems are amazingly
accurate after they have been adequately trained. Adequate training does
thak hundreds of hours of use and being incredibly faithful to correcting the
mistakes the software makes. Few people who can type are willing to
I kept my IBM AT keyboard until the SPACEBAR fell of for the lst time and
SuperGlue was no good anymore. I loved that keyboard. I must say, though,
that I really dig the MacBook Pro keyboard even without the old IBM punch back
keys.
Oh... I just realized what an MBP15 is...
On Dec 4, 2009,
Given some of the tricks I mentioned yesteray, you may be able to make it sort
of accessible but in an entirely clunky manner.
Databases are one of the application sectors, along with accounting and a few
other somewhat sophisticated applications that people need to get higher paying
jobs and
The Apple Speakable Items feature for voice command and control have been
around for about a million years and it's very well document on the Apple site
as well as from other sources.
cdh
On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:08 AM, .dan. wrote:
Someone asked:
I've looked with some curiosity at the
Nicolai, etc.
My experience with iPhone had a lot of mistakes in the early going but now,
about six months into using it, I don't know how I lived without it for so long.
There are lots of things I did wrong but, from making mistakes, I found other
cool features that I would use in the future.
I don't understand this one?
On Dec 6, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Mark Gilland wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Chris.
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- Original Message -
From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 3:11 PM
a lot of mistakes if I get an iPhone, or the fact I
was being nice. Oh well.
Regards,
Nic
Skype: Kvalme
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On Dec 7, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
I don't understand
Hi,
I have been using Adium for a while now (if you like, you can contact me on MSN
at blindchrist...@live .com, I forgot my AOL name as I only used it once).
Recently, I finally got to copying it from the Downloads folder and into
Applications which didn't seem to make a difference. When,
Hi,
My wife got up and I asked to borrow her eyes for a few moments. I had
mentioned that Adium and Syrinx Dock menus could no longer be reached since I
moved them into the Run at Login category. I then launched Mail and I could
no longer use its or any other running program's Dock menu.
I'll check for updates, thanks!
On Dec 9, 2009, at 7:55 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
There was something in an older version about naughty behavior with adium,
Did the latest update get applied? If so they may not have gotten this
behavior under control.
On 2009-12-09, at 7:42 AM, Chris
Hi,
We just tried getting the Dock menus for running applications to pop up
without VO running and all seemed normal. Once I restarted VO, though, the
problem of the disappeared menus returned.
I did check for Adium version and it said I was up to date. I'll try Syrinx
now and see if it
Hi,
We removed both Adium and Syrinx from the run at login feature, leaving nothing
executing at start up other than VO and Finder and problem remains that I
cannot get to the menus on the items associated with running programs on my
dock.
This is starting to really suck.
cdh
--
You
textedit
alias in the dock. The only way I could get to the shortcut menu was
to do VO-shift and M and then use the arrow keys to select the
shortcut menus. Hope this helps
cheers Thuy
On 09/12/2009, Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com wrote:
Hi,
My wife got up and I asked to borrow her eyes
: Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com
To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:02 PM
Subject: More on Dock Problem
Hi,
We removed both Adium and Syrinx from the run at login feature, leaving
nothing executing at start up other than VO
then when I command-tab, it
works fine.
Regards,
Nic
Skype: Kvalme
MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
AIM: cincinster
yahoo Messenger: cin368
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My Twitter
On Dec 9, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
Hi,
We removed both Adium and Syrinx from the run at login
I seem to have the same problem as Donna in that these keystrokes on my MacBook
Pro behave as she describes. Could it be having emails sorted into threads and
collapsed?
cdh
On Dec 9, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
Hi Esther,
That doesn't work either, VO-FN-Shift Up arrow takes me
NVDA is a usable program that, unfortunately, doesn't support very many
applications yet. If you can program in Python, you can help the team move it
forward. As a full time solution, though, it isn't ready for prime time yet.
I know both Mick and Jamie, the top of the NVDA team, and they
been criticism from commercial venders and those
trainers who should really be impartial - at least in my view. They believe
that because NVDA is free and open source then it must automatically be a
non starter.
TC
James
TC
James
- Original Message -
From: Chris Hofstader c
for
the job at hand, thus like you, I am not and hopefully will never be an
evangelist for one platform or piece of AT.
TC
James
- Original Message -
From: Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:04 PM
Subject
be a
non starter.
TC
James
TC
James
- Original Message -
From: Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: questions about NVDA
NVDA is a usable program that, unfortunately, doesn't support very
I mostly agree with Eric here but attribute the variations in web
information/screen reader combination to a lack of acceptance on the part of
web developers, browser authors and, to a big extent, screen access vendors.
It is true that Apple is setting its own accessibility standards but, for
This rant and any follow up should be referred to the BS mailing list as it is
way, way off topic.To join the BS list, send an email to:
vo-bs-requ...@lists.hofstader.com with the word subscribe in the subject
line.
To those of us who feel that screen readers will always provide second class
I think that in VO settings there is a read text attributes or some such
thing that is off by default. I don't know if it will help you but it's
probably a good feature to try.
On Dec 13, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Daniel K. Gartmann wrote:
Hi,
I had to insert text into a fairly complex
Hi,
I have been using Adium for a while to communicate with friends who mostly use
MSN or whatever it's called these days. I can see their status and send and
receive text messages but my status always seems to be offline on their side.
Has anyone else seen this?
Also, is there another chat
This is nice but not cross platform which I think is one of the criteria.
On Dec 17, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Daniel Rowe wrote:
i use Keychane access, which is built into the Os. You can find it under
applications and utilities.
On 17 Dec 2009, at 13:45, Robert Carter wrote:
Hi,
I
If you like DS, it is really worthwhile joining the Serotek System Access
Network where for a few bucks per month, you can find an excellent and ever
growing catalogue of DVS movies.
On Dec 17, 2009, at 1:53 PM, william lomas wrote:
hi all do any movies on the itunes store have
Hi,
As this was a topic earlier this morning and a friend from Serotek sent out the
link over twitter, I think it's probably worth a look-see by those interested
in DVS.
cdh
http://www.totalitv.com/cont/home_en.php
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I can't recall if SA supports Braille or not. If so, SATOGO would be a cost
free solution for Windows.
On Dec 18, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Joe Plummer wrote:
Well she is out of luck. There is no screen readers that are free to do what
she wants.
Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
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