Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> > G Mann wrote: > > > > I do raise arguement with the segment of thinking that > > leaps forward with the assumption it is a finished and > > practical appliction product accepted by public use. > > > > It's not there yet.. it's not even close, yet.. Perhaps, > > but not yet. > Andrew wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] Apple and the next Electric Car

2015-06-17 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
That's a slick way to solve the problem where Uber drivers were declared to be employees (entitled to all benefits) vs independent contractors (another blow for unemployment). I understand McDonalds is experimenting with a self-serve experiment to combat the latest minimum wage laws. There ain

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Actually, several parties flew before the Wrights. The problem the Wrights solved was how to turn. > -Original Message- > From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:01 PM > > The Wright brothers were not constrained by physics, they were liberated by > physics.

Re: [MBZ] Apple and the next Electric Car

2015-06-17 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
(Long article; parts have been removed.) Six university researchers have revealed deadly zero-day flaws in Apple's iOS and OS X, claiming it is possible to crack Apple's keychain, break app sandboxes and bypass its App Store security checks so that attackers can steal passwords from any install

Re: [MBZ] My announcement

2015-06-17 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
We true German-Americans take note of your desire to become a citizen of the Fatherland. The next time Germany invades Russia, you will be given the opportunity to join the glorious Wehrmacht as a frontline fighting man. If you perform heroic deeds like true German soldiers; even when advancing

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
The Wright brothers were not constrained by physics, they were liberated by physics. Their insights were a glimpse into a whole new world of physical reality., and they were among the first. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jun 17, 2015, at 10:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Grant

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
On the other hand, there have been a LOT of "promising" technologies that challenged existing physics, and lost. Cold fusion anyone? On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Grant, I can just see you watching the Wright Brothers lift off, s

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane or Nukular cars

2015-06-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
What most "religious" people do - ignore that parts that they don't want to obey/believe. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > What's a good Catholic like Bush and Rubio - trapped by right wing > ideology- to do? Squirm, I guess. >

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Grant, I can just see you watching the Wright Brothers lift off, saying "they will never be able to compete with trains - that silly contraption can only carry one or at most two men" On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:24 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > I raise no arguement with experimentation and exp

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane or Nukular cars

2015-06-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What's a good Catholic like Bush and Rubio - trapped by right wing ideology- to do? Squirm, I guess. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Max wrote: > > My view on the Pope's encyclical... > > This is hard to figure. > Something afoot but

Re: [MBZ] MBZ Tetchnickel kweationz.

2015-06-17 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Thanks, Jim.Max sent me a link for the Index. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 18:29:14 -0700 > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBZ Tetchnickel kweationz. > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > CC: jim.cathey...@gmail.com > > > is it possible to get the old ma

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I raise no arguement with experimentation and exploration what so ever. I do raise arguement with the segment of thinking that leaps forward with the assumption it is a finished and practical appliction product accepted by public use. It's not there yet.. it's not even close, yet.. Perhaps, but n

Re: [MBZ] Not 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel

2015-06-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I'm guessing Horizon Blue. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Curly wrote: > > Oxidized Lapis blue? > > Show me your midnight blue? > Is it the same W123 blue I drive? > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz

Re: [MBZ] Apple and the next Electric Car

2015-06-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
It's the ultimate taxi. You won't own it, you'll just schedule a ride from where you are to where you want to go and pay through the nose for the convenience. A few rebellious souls will insist on owning their own cars, and driving them themselves for the sheer joy of it, but will be filed or sued

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane or Nukular cars

2015-06-17 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Max wrote: > My view on the Pope's encyclical... This is hard to figure. Something afoot but hard to see what is happening regarding AGW, etc and then too the LBGT stuff you mention also. Tough times for religion and science... Either way, pollution and our ways will not cease, so... mao

Re: [MBZ] Apple and the next Electric Car

2015-06-17 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
It's the American dream to hand over all decision making and control of your personal life to an overpowering control from the cradle to the grave. Just as soon as we can breed out that pesky streak of independence and will to live. Have we been invaded by an alien life force? Where do these comp

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
More detail, if you're interested - *General characteristics* - *Crew:* 1 - *Length:* 22.4 m (73.5 ft) - *Wingspan :* 71.9 m (236 ft) - *Height:* 6.37 m (20.9 ft) - *Wing area:* 17,248 photovoltaic cells cover the top of the wings, fuselag

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Solar Impulse 2 (stuck in China last I heard waiting for enough good weather to cross the Pacific Ocean at 35 mph): "with a massive 263-foot wingspan, the same as a Boeing 747. Yet even with that massive wingspan loaded with more than 17,000 monocrystalline silicon solar cells, and more than 2,000

Re: [MBZ] 1995 E300D Idler arm bushing Change and suspension work/becker radio

2015-06-17 Thread Robert Massmann via Mercedes
Max, Thank you for the comment, just wanted make sure. I have been thinking of pulling the radio in my 95 as I have lost the antenna command when the radio is turned on. Antenna function was just fine and then became intermittent. Pulled the antenna and is working just fine, but there is no o

Re: [MBZ] Apple and the next Electric Car

2015-06-17 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
If it's anything like their computers, it'll be obsolete in three years. Imagine, them telling you that your operating system is too old, car's computer is too old to handle upgrade. Buy new car. Thanks but I'll stick to my manual everything dinosaur mobiles. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 20

Re: [MBZ] Apple and the next Electric Car

2015-06-17 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Andrew wrote: > > "A fully autonomous car is meant to be shared, not owned," > Jonas said. "A fully autonomous car -- as in no steering > wheel, no pedals -- can work 24 hours a day" Err. Sure. And a car that _does_ have a steering wheel and pedals clearly can't work 24 hours a day or be sha

Re: [MBZ] MBZ Tetchnickel kweationz.

2015-06-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
is it possible to get the old manual to run with Win7? Only the indexing is a problem. The data is all PDF files. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
so it requires 60,000 watts to fly. Maybe to take off, but typical cruise power is more relevant to how practical the system is. I still bet it isn't good enough! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
investigating for an upcoming 5000kw system purchase. 5MW? That's pretty big! There's a lot to be said for a mobile fleet of accumulators. If you use the accumulator to drive off, it's less likely that the juice would have been needed where it was parked anyway. Even if you don't go anywhere,

[MBZ] Reviving a Becker 1492 radio

2015-06-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I had two Becker 1492's on the shelf, one from my '95 sedan that got wet and died (long story), the other from a friend's '94 124 which suffered from the flaky volume knob malfunction. Using a torx #8 driver, I was able to quickly swap the faceplate from the drowned radio onto the radio with the f

Re: [MBZ] 1995 E300D Idler arm bushing Change and suspension work

2015-06-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Hey Robert, long time no post! Good luck with that, I don't remember anything about the orientation when I replaced those bushings on my '95. I do remember that there is one or two exhaust heat shields that you need to remove in order to get a good attack angle for those bolts. - Max

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane or Nukular cars

2015-06-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
My view on the Pope's encyclical: he's just alienated a significant portion of his "flock" by moving into the political / AGW-religion arena. A few years ago, many protestants were considering converting to Catholicism due to the infiltration of leftists / wackos / LBGT movement that was totally p

[MBZ] Want a Couple of M103 Oil Filters?

2015-06-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
More finds from the garage cabinets. I have two Mann W719/13 spin on filters, which I believe are for an M103 engine. Cover the postage and they’re yours. Be sure to check fitment first, too. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://w

[MBZ] 1995 E300D Idler arm bushing Change and suspension work

2015-06-17 Thread Robert Massmann via Mercedes
This weekend I will changing out the bushing on my steering idler arm. Reviewing the service manual, I thought that the bushing need to be installed in a certain orientation, because the bushing themselves have a red-band around one portion od the outer diameter. The instructions do not mention

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread MG via Mercedes
Agree with all you said except the 16% part. The newest Sunpower x-21 series panels have an efficiency of 21.5%. Still not much better but over the life of the panels could give up to 75% more power then the 16% units, according to the manufacturer. Not really germane to what you were saying,

Re: [MBZ] Not 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel

2015-06-17 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curly wrote: > Oxidized Lapis blue? Show me your midnight blue? Is it the same W123 blue I drive? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.co

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane or Nukular cars

2015-06-17 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Max wrote: > I'm with you on the nuke plants, not so much the electric cars. None of it works. We will pollute ourselves in to oblivion. Read the Pope Encyclical on pollution, greed. Ain't a thing to be done. Call it AGW or what have you - we either retreat to stone age or die polluted. Ain't tha

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane or Nukular cars

2015-06-17 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I'm with you on the nuke plants, not so much the electric cars. Ridding the world of coal fired power plants would be a great thing, but there is so much oil and gas in the ground that internal combustion transportation will be very economical for decades and maybe centuries to come. -- Max Di

Re: [MBZ] Not 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel

2015-06-17 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
>From old english, a word meaning an old, inferior rope. Gerry On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:47:59 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > I've often wondered when that particularly annoying anti-euphemism ("junk") > first came into use, and which cretin christened it. Any scholars out there > wh

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane or Nukular cars

2015-06-17 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Actually, I am thinking that building more base-load nukes and having distributed batteries (including in charging cars at night) around so that more baseload plants can keep cranking at a steady efficient pace around the clock, then dumping that power back into the grid or your building/office

Re: [MBZ] Apple and the next Electric Car

2015-06-17 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
They could just buy Tesla and have a turn-key operation with a lot of the heavy lifting done. The autonomous stuff seems to be getting pervasive amongst a few companies so that is not a huge hurdle. We are well on our way to having the mandate that all new vehicles will have hive algorithms s

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Solar powered practical electric vehicle.. Fantasy. Oil powered practical internal combustion vehicle ... Reality. Any further questions? Thanks you for sharing your fantasies with us Andrew ... By all means.. follow your dreams.. some day, lead may become gold by the principles of magic.. On W

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 14:04:35 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > What about the pure solar plane flying around the globe - as we speak? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/25/business/energy-environment/swiss-pilots-to-fly-solar-plane-around-world.html?_r=0 > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Like I said, "Physics'll work EVERY time." It's gotcha right by the "ying-yang," and not lightly - it's always squeezin'. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Meade Dillon" Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:15 PM Subject:

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Reality is such a harsh mistress.. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Looks like the "pure solar plane" hasn't made it yet, can't seem to get the > weather to cooperate > > > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Wed, Jun 17,

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Looks like the "pure solar plane" hasn't made it yet, can't seem to get the weather to cooperate - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > What about the pure solar plane flying around the globe - as we speak? > > _

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I'm going to answer my own question, as I think Andrew either won't or can't. The subject plane's wingspan is 9.5 meters, let's say we'll be able to fit 12 square meters of PV cells. When it is summer and the sun is shining, and it is shining directly down (local apparent noon), about 1000 watts

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
And. The useful load for that Experimental category airplane is Zero passengers.. Zero cargo.. but.. It is able to travel at almost 80 MPH... most days when the sun shines... for a while Soon... your majesty.. very soon... I'll be able to turn lead into gold and you will be incredibl

[MBZ] Apple and the next Electric Car

2015-06-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Apple could dominate market -- analystPublished: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 Apple Inc.'s reach could soon include electric automobiles, according to an industry analyst. "If the world's most valuable company were to design and engineer a car, we are convinced it would be 100 percent a battery elect

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What about the pure solar plane flying around the globe - as we speak? On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Please tell us the amount of power (kilowatts) in a square meter of > sunlight at sea level. Now compare that to the amount of power

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Please tell us the amount of power (kilowatts) in a square meter of sunlight at sea level. Now compare that to the amount of power required to fly an airplane, and the square meters of wing surface on the upper wings of the subject airplane. A little simple math, fill in some reasonable estimates

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Believing that CO2 is a greenhouse gas REQUIRES one to not believe in physics, so it is no surprise at all that AGW believers also think that solar is a viable option for transportation. http://www.kusi.com/story/19600263/why-man-made-global-warming-is-ridiculous - Max Charleston SC O

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I beg to differ. Solar panel efficiencies are climbing relentlessly while the manufacturing cost continues to decline. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:38 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > Amen. > > People still trying to get something for/from nothing (or more out of it > than goes into it). Physics

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Amen. People still trying to get something for/from nothing (or more out of it than goes into it). Physics is still physics, and it'll work EVERY time. Wilton - Original Message - From: "G Mann via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "G Mann" Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I am troubled by the ongoing fantasy that an array of solar panels on the wings would recharge and power the airplane. Or an electric car. That fantasy seems to be driven by a direct disconnect from reality, which in turn, seems driven by the belief that all electricity comes out of a grid socket

Re: [MBZ] Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Rodan 2. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Andrew, et alia.The thing that gave birth to that must be a sight to see. > > Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > > > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:57:40 -0400 > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Subje

Re: [MBZ] MBZ Tetchnickel kweationz.

2015-06-17 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Max.Thanks for the link and info.I had considered the mechanical stop and deleting the idle circuit, though I'd prefer to fix it as originally designed, but that would still give me an erratic tacho.Onward and upward! Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:02:04 -0400 >

Re: [MBZ] MBZ Tetchnickel kweationz.

2015-06-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Win 7 is no issue, you just need to get Steve Nervig's web front-end for the CD's, follow the directions to copy the CD's to appropriate place on your HD and then create a shortcut in Firefox that points to Steve's menu-launch hyperlink. Downloads and more info here: http://www.mercedeslist.com/s

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
It's certainly not the worlds first, Yuneec flew one in 2009 - - - according to the Telegraph: "The aircraft manufacturer has unveiled the world's first plug-in plane at the Paris Air Show." http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/exclusivevids/ExclusiveVideo_YuneecE430_ElectricAirplane_FirstFlight_200617

Re: [MBZ] Today's Cluster

2015-06-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
True. He's dead, Jim. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Jun 17, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > What difference, at this point, does it make? > > --R >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archiv

Re: [MBZ] Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Andrew, et alia.The thing that gave birth to that must be a sight to see. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:57:40 -0400 > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Airbus Electric Plane > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > CC: astrasfo...@gmail.com; fredh.s...@hotmai

[MBZ] MBZ Tetchnickel kweationz.

2015-06-17 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Alles.Is there a W124 CD manual for windows 7, or is it possible to get the old manual to run with Win7? If so, how?The tachometer on my '87 300TD is acting strangely. coming down to a stop the tach will go to zero and back causing the engine to surge and the car to lurch ahead slightly.Raising

Re: [MBZ] Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Not really. Looks like an imperfect severing of an umbelical cord (a very long "outie"). On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Does it dangle with dignity? > > Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > > > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:40:21 -0400 > >

Re: [MBZ] Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Does it dangle with dignity? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:40:21 -0400 > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Airbus Electric Plane > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > CC: astrasfo...@gmail.com > > I love the little dangling power cord... > > On Wed, Jun

Re: [MBZ] Not 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel

2015-06-17 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
"I wouldn't touch his junk. Wilton." Neither would I, of either kind! Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or chang

Re: [MBZ] Not 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel

2015-06-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I've often wondered when that particularly annoying anti-euphemism ("junk") first came into use, and which cretin christened it. Any scholars out there who can come up with an answer? On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:41 AM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > I wouldn't touch his junk. > > Wilton > > - O

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
All they need is a solar PV charging station... On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: > >> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3117977/World-s-plug-plane-takes-Bright-sparks-Airbus-unveil-el

Re: [MBZ] Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I love the little dangling power cord... On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:47 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Airbus electric plane in flight at the Paris Air Show. > > http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03343/potd-plane_3343911k.jpg > > > > _

Re: [MBZ] Not 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel

2015-06-17 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
I wouldn't touch his junk. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" To: Cc: "Rich Thomas" Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel "Buy my junk" --R On 6/16/15 11:07 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: No

Re: [MBZ] Today's Cluster

2015-06-17 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Yep. Amen. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes List" Cc: "Dan Penoff" Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 5:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's Cluster Can’t help it, man. It’s the way I was brought up. That’s what happens when you grow up in a fa

Re: [MBZ] Today's Cluster

2015-06-17 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
What difference, at this point, does it make? --R On 6/17/15 7:09 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Good point. Good Midwestern ethics, maybe? I can assure you that if I visit my Dad's grave I'll hear him spinning at a high rate of speed, for sure. I have no doubt he would be aghast at the

Re: [MBZ] Not 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel

2015-06-17 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
"Buy my junk" --R On 6/16/15 11:07 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: Not mine and not '87 or '88 W123.More like '83 '84 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. From: ro...@craigslist.org To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com Subject: 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 02:48:14 +

Re: [MBZ] Today's Cluster

2015-06-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
So your entire family is Trans-German now? - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_

Re: [MBZ] Today's Cluster

2015-06-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Based on my experience with the Mazda, I have to believe the COPs have a finite life, and when one starts to go the rest aren't far behind. Dan > On Jun 17, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> Last night’s coil was number five of six that

Re: [MBZ] Today's Cluster

2015-06-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Since I bought the coils on separate orders, they were under $100. I used the promo code TRT30 and got 30% off, knocking the price down to $47 and change. Advance has coils for the Mazda as cheap as $30, but they don't stock them. While I would have rather gone that route, I couldn't wait. I ha

Re: [MBZ] Today's Cluster

2015-06-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Last night’s coil was number five of six that have been replaced. I already ordered number six and I’m picking it up on the way home from work tonight. I would rather spend the $47 for another coil than worry about it crapping out on them a couple weeks from now

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3117977/World-s-plug-plane-takes-Bright-sparks-Airbus-unveil-electric-two-seater-E-Fan-aircraft-Paris-Air-s-nearly-silent-flight.html Electric has been replacing methanol in model planes over the last 20 years

Re: [MBZ] Today's Cluster

2015-06-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Good point. Good Midwestern ethics, maybe? I can assure you that if I visit my Dad's grave I'll hear him spinning at a high rate of speed, for sure. I have no doubt he would be aghast at the things that go on in the banking industry today. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Jun 17, 2015, at 6:22 AM,

Re: [MBZ] Today's Cluster

2015-06-17 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Dan writes: ‎>That’s what happens when you >grow up in a family of bankers. >Once you give up your integrity, >you’ve got nothing. Perhaps that was true of the bankers of yore. I don't think it applies to today's bankers, at the uppermost levels. Maybe that's why so many have had fatal acciden

[MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3117977/World-s-plug-plane-takes-Bright-sparks-Airbus-unveil-electric-two-seater-E-Fan-aircraft-Paris-Air-s-nearly-silent-flight.html Airbus electric plane in flight at the Paris Air Show. http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03343/p

[MBZ] Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-17 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Airbus electric plane in flight at the Paris Air Show. http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03343/potd-plane_3343911k.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] Today's Cluster

2015-06-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Can’t help it, man. It’s the way I was brought up. That’s what happens when you grow up in a family of bankers. Once you give up your integrity, you’ve got nothing. Dan > On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I want to buy something from Dan - anything.

Re: [MBZ] Today's Cluster

2015-06-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Last night’s coil was number five of six that have been replaced. I already ordered number six and I’m picking it up on the way home from work tonight. I would rather spend the $47 for another coil than worry about it crapping out on them a couple weeks from now. At least then I know they’ve al