will be:
support the strikers, urge Pawlenty to settle, and solve the health care
crisis. For more information on this, contact Jared Lodge,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or 651-485-2915.
--fwd David Shove
Roseville
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Roseville
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004, Bob Spaulding wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Mpls forum):
> > I know this is really crazy, but why shouldn't
> Minneapolis opt out of the
> > Metro transit system?
>
>
&
, please email us at
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arth. It
is the enemy summed up in one world-consuming monster. Shopping at WalMart
is voting for corporate rule, child labor, the end of democracy.
I hope there will be organized resistence against WalMart in Apache Plaza.
Better a huge vacant lot.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004,
to do this next election. Meanwhile,
eternal vigilance is the price of the park system.
--David Shove
Roseville
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cides. I'll bet they'd do very
well - I'd go - and then some other bars would go smokeless, and the
tobacco lobby would have a fit. They can see that far ahead, and so will
do all they can to make sure we never have the choice. May they rot in
nicotine and carcinogens.
--David Shove
ros
The REAL elitists are the ruling-class bozos running the corporations,
corporations out to stripmine the public and democracy.
So, I don't buy this hackneyed defense of smoking. I am a progressive
standing up and saying, Ban it, without guilt. May the guilt-trippers find
another life to live.
YES!
...and StPaul, and Roseville
--
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Eric
I'm happy to hear of smokefree Jetset. What are the other smokefree bars
in thisd area? We should build up a list, then support them, and give
other bars reason to go smokefree.
--Davis Shove
Roseville
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Eric Meininger, MD wrote:
> >
> >If running a smoke free bar is so
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Tom Rukavina (DFL) 296-0170 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Katie Sieben (DFL) 296-4342 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ex-officio Jim Knoblach (R) 296-6316 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--fwd David Shove
Roseville
We don't know which area(s) - StPaul, Mpls, Anoka - are really targeted,
so this post concern
rocess.
And Tactic it is - forget business, forget serving the public with some
product or service - one is in the game of getting tax breaks. It doesn't
matter for what. It's all and only about fleecing the public to finance a
bloated lifestyle.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Mon, 3 May 2004, l
That's why we need 100% State Aid to Schools.
That is, the state should pay 100% of school costs, from state taxes.
None should come from local property taxes.
That way the only way Edina could have good public schools is to help fund
equally good inner city schools.
--David Shove
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put into parking. Anyway, outrageously large.
I would like to see a cap of say 40,000 to 50,000 sq ft put into city
ordinances in Mpls & StPaul and Roseville etc, and then once it is seen as
popular, made state-wide.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 26 May 2004, Mike Jensvold wrote:
> Ho
o the ban must be total. No exceptions. No holes in the dike.
Time for a total loss for Big Tobacco. A total win for public health.
Total. Now.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Sat, 29 May 2004, Gary Hoover wrote:
> I recommend Ed Felien's article in the Pulse to all as essentail back
the whole enchilada, and dismiss the
opposition with a snide butt-kicking jeer?
--David Shove
roseville
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, gemgram wrote:
> I have been waiting for an appeal of my "ban" from the List, before
> continuing to post, but just could not resist Eddie Felien's post. I g
nothing. A complete and total ban. Anytbing else and
it will be undermined in a few months or years. Stop these criminals now.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Robert Yorga wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> This whole thing is being looked at the wrong way.let's have both..
&
Amen.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, ken bradley wrote:
>
> Ken Bradley writes: I couldn't agree more as someone who has also
> struggled with tobacco addiction, and the health problems that come with
> it, that the hospitality industry should not be protect
f our exploiters.
So we have to be diligent, working constantly against the acid influence
of Big Money.
We need to start now with Rybak and Kelly. They need to be Somewhere Else.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Gary Hoover wrote:
>
> The Mayors of St Paul and Minneapolis have cave
est elite level, wipe out all small and
medium businesses, all local businesses, fill the world with big box
chains run from NYC or the Grand Cayman Islands.
Right here in the cities is about the only level left that the people have
any power - by default it is the area we must work and win in.
/ St. Paul IMC: http://twincities.indymedia.org/
---
fw David Shove
Roseville
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place, you
choose bars. And then we are right back where we started, no ban, no
non-smoking bars, a total victory for Big Tobacco and perhaps some part of
the 20% who smoke, and nothing for the 80% who don't.
When corporations succeed in stuffing our heads with myths, we all lose.
--David Shove
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Jim Bernstein wrote:
> Smokers just want to smoke and don't give a damn about the other people
> in the room!
Smoking is never having to say you're sorry.
Arrogance thy name is smoker.
--David Shove
Roseville
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g Earth far faster
and more overtly than any previous administration dared. It is time we
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vision for the human race. The the truth, and the planet cannot survive
inaction.
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The Green Party of StPaul, representing Minnesota's 4th Congressional
District, supports the most widespread smoking ban possible in bars and
restaurants as the solution that would most benefit both public health and
business interests.
However, we do not believe the absence of a regional or natio
ican is to be a corporate patsy in a class war
he/she denies exists.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Steve Nelson wrote:
> Dorie Rae Gallagher
> Nokomis East
> wrote
> "Northwest got what Northwest wanted and now it all seems fuzzy on what was
> to be done for the res
not re-elected).
It forces the people in the better off areas to care for everyone, not
just their better-off selves. So you can imagine who might be for it, who
against.
The Green Party favors PR; if you want PR, vote Green.
--David Shove
Roseville
> After reading the morning paper today (Stri
Fewer council persons means bigger districts, less responsiveness, less
democracy. A bad idea.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Allen wrote:
>
>
> For sources of funding for the trail system, I would suggest to start with
> trimming the city council back to a reasonab
use PRT is on elevated
guideways, it does not impede car traffic, and is not impeded by it -
just as unimpeded during rush hours as off hours. What's not to love?
--David Shove
roseville
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Bruce Gaarder wrote:
> Gina makes good points, as does David.
>
> I don
I would like the cameras in linen closets, bedrooms, baths. "Do not remove
under penalty of law" tag removal could be the beginning of a life of
crime. Let's hit these scofflaws where they least expect it.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Connie Beckers The Goddess
financed
elections, welfare for the poor.
Floyd B Olson was on the right track. Reagan and his henchmen have shown
us just how bad, corrupt, and toxic is rule by big money, blue blood
families, and corporations.
Don't trust anyone over $1,000,000,000.00
--David Shove
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004,
om Van Lear Memorial Bill!
--David Shove
Roseville
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greed. Trickle DOWN is where the rich trickle ON us. The only kind of
golden showers we'll get from them.
Reclaim your city from the rich bamboozlers - find out what's going on,
and take action!
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ve to be perfect places around the cities for: Greed Gardens,
Invasion Isles, Serf Street, Aristocrat Avenue, etc.
Why, in just a few years, every man would be an island, doing to others
before they do it to him.
Or, we could decide that things have gone this wrong way for far too long,
and renew ou
uzzah! Excelsior!
Let us all be willing to lay down a teeny tiny bit of our health so that a
glorious few may enjoy unparalleled luxury and power!
Think of Their Happiness as you inhale and your lungs fill with the
announced fine particles! It's for them!
--David Shove
Roseville
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 23:26:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Danene Provencher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Nader in MN 9.16 6/8pm
Thursday Sept 16
6pm
The Weyerhaeuser Chapel at Macalester College
1600 Grand Ave.
StPaul
Between Snelling Ave and Macalester St.
8pm
Ted
oose poop on a stick! Yum yum!
Batter-fried mini goose poops! Delicious!
and best of all
Pronto Poops! To die for!
--David Shove
Roseville
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Those who don't want to vote for Kahn, and don't want to vote for the
Republican, can always vote for the Green, Becki Smith.
--David Shove
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PS is is always open to Rep Kahn to post her version of her argument here.
Then we won't need my words (and inferences), we can deal directly with
hers.
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> People in this forum are missing the point.
don't want them to get that first compelling life-changing
taste.
See a PRT demo at Taxi 2000 in Fridley, about 80th and University Av.
--David Shove
Roseville
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an be bait and switched. Take land and money under cover of
the bus, then after a few months, yield to the (orchestrated)
"overwhelming public demand" to fill the bus lane with cars. LRT can't be
switched, so of course the highway men don't want it there.
--David Shove
REMINDE
rl Pohlad. So let us look beyond the all-too-pliable mayors and
councils, to the power centers determining our future.
--David Shove
Roseville
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dogs, who would set up the
expected aleatory choral response, lasting long after the initial cat-call.
I can always be talked into an even more interesting project, if anyone
here can think of one.
--David Shove
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Michael Atherton wrote:
>
> Mark Wilde wrote:
>
&g
As we dwell on LRT and streetcars, and before we make a ton of financial
and land-use commitments, it might be well to experience for ourselves
PRT, a solution I personally prefer to the above. It should not be
rejected just because of a few loud voices.
--David Shove
Roseville
y the corporations; this will just make it that much worse.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Jon Lewis wrote:
> Greetings, gang.
>
> This rather histrionic e-mail that Heather forwarded to the list has
> been making the rounds. It is my understanding that the Clear Channe
I agree with Roxana.
Now, which of our 13 council members are against the deal, which
undecided, and which for?
Being for this city sell-out to Clear Channel should be more than
sufficient grounds to KICK THEM OUT in the November 2005 election.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004
mokers to blow smoke in our faces, hair, clothes, 24/7.
Or better, all of us freedom fighters should smoke 4 packs a day, lighting
the next from the last, and wear the new button "Smoking makes us free"
(or the German version "Rauchen Macht Frei!" which is particularly
appropria
KE it to be - no
enforcement of any codes at all. But it isn't that way now and if the rest
of us have anything to say about it, it's never going to get that way.
What you call fascism is what the rest of us call public health.
--David Shove
Roseville
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--David Shove
Roseville
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Dan wrote:
> > >You see Minneapolis is a one
this is will be a battle
against the contented powers that be that are not responding to citizen
needs.
--David Shove
Roseville
PS The DFL Leg is on record vote, a few years back, rejecting fusion
voting, which would have had some of the features of IRV. There were 7 RP
votes for it, 7 DP votes for
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, David Weinlick wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 24, 2004, at 02:13 PM, David Shove wrote:
> > Agree on one thing? We could begin with IRV - Instand Runoff Voting.
>
> We had a vote on IRV. In the House, 90% of DFLers voted in favor it,
> and 90% of Republi
munity.
Those who make peaceful evolution impossible make violent revolution
inevitable. How long will people give more and more and get less and less?
Has a government that does this have right to our respect or obedience?
Should we have to barf every time we think of our government? People begin
to
political office holders.
I believe this is possible in any of the dozens of home-rule cities in MN.
A city can achieve home-rule by a process independent of the Leg. Given
the hostility of the Leg to IRV etc, home-rule seems to be a necessary
first step.
--David Shove
Roseville
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far from their destructions.
Leaving us exploited colonized natives to live with the lousy result.
Give me a used car salesman any day.
--David Shove
Roseville
I have seen them active in Roseville on the Twin Lakes "development" - you
don't want them anywhere near YOUR city coun
pound of cure (fighting each and every mismanaged deal).
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, David Brauer wrote:
> Jason writes:
>
> > Monday I called my park commissioner, Carol Kummer, to register my support
> of Cris
> > Gears for park
> > superintendent. Car
SIX??? I thought the split was 5/4. Who was the sixth?
And, when are those 6 up for re-election?
-David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, Chris Johnson wrote:
> Elizabeth Wielinski wrote:
> > Six of the nine commissioners of the Minneapolis Parks and Recreation
> > B
Eventually single payer health care; why not now?
--David Shove
Roseville
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Elizabeth Wielinski wrote:
>Though I am one for agreeing with the 2% increase in actual wages I
> know that many city employees have the same health insurance as the
> MPRB (union ties).
lose their city to
(mis)developers.
Eternal vigilance is still required. There is no form of government that
will guarantee justice or allow us to go to sleep.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Ray Marshall wrote:
>
> The adoption of a City Manager plan for Minneapolis, the like
he Mpls DFL, as a charter PPFer, to announce it is
endorsing Cam Gordon for ward 2. And that it encourages member DFLers to
join his campaign, striding forward in the blazing greater glory of the
Progressive Cause!
I await the Mpls DFL announcement!
Let it be soon, so all may celebrate!
istrict model doesn't GUARANTEE it
> would happen and, as such, certain geographic areas could be marginalized in
> the process.
>
> In order to ensure balanced geographical representation in a PR system, such
> as the STV (single transferable vote) approach David Shove outlines (wh
re YOU can vote for any candidate of any party at
any place in your priority ranking. It gives the incumbents the LEAST
security of any system I know - that's one reason I like it - and the
citizens the maximum power. I don't like hacks any better than you do.
--David Shove
Rosevi
Or send a written statement that I or
others can read at the meeting.
Thank you again for your commitment and hard work on this important issue.
Amy Ihlan
--fwd David Shove
Roseville
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quot;wasting" a vote. In a few elections we'd come to see what
issues/parties REALLY move people here - and govt would (have to) be much
more responsive to exactly that. What's not to love?
--David Shove
Roseville
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Aaron Neumann wrote:
> Jeanne Massey
aiding the rich to become richer, voluntarily, by means
of bake sales and silent auctions, or if need be, public begging. I might
even give Carl Pohlad a quarter or two if he asked for it selling pencils
on the street.
--David Shove
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, Scott McGerik wrote:
>
> Bill Kah
The announcement did not say KBEM was going off the air.
--David Shove
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, Michelle Martin wrote:
> I'm sorry to hear about their loss, as they are a very community-minded
> station focused on Northside issues. They were the only radio station to
> offer spon
t too. When America lies
quaking in the dust, we'll know who to blame.
It makes me wonder how many seemingly ordinary folks you see on the street
live clandestine lives in certain back-alley google booths. It's just
about all I can think about.
--David Shove
un-self-googled in Roseville
t Battle didn't just quote people without their permission -
> but rather quoted individuals on this issue after talking with them.
>
I believe that of all those you mention, only Natalie is UP FOR ELECTION
IN NOVEMBER 2005.
--David Shove
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re forever. The rich would love to have ONLY sales taxes,
because it would help them siphon the max cash from the poor to their
exalted selves.
One more reason to replace Ostrow at the next election.
--David Shove
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Eva Young wrote:
> I read in the Strib that Ostrow is prop
ve to helping average citizens in the cities. Better to fight that
fight, than to give in to Pawlenty's blackmail of last term.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> A bunch of people have said that they don't like the additional sales
> ta
let's consider
possible motives for attack before believing the attack.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, Loki Anderson wrote:
> David Shove wrote:
>
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Eva Young wrote:
> >
> > It's also notable that Natalie Johnson Lee is the only Afr
public is an important local start.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Ray Marshall wrote:
> I can see the value of the Department of Transportation broadcasting traffic
> information. But at a time when low power broadcasting is just about to
> come into its own, maybe the issue sho
Property doesn't have rights.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Scott McGerik wrote:
>
> > 1. The health of workers, especially in light of the previous few years
> > and lack of jobs, is of paramount importance. No one should have to
> > choose between t
d playing field. And here the UN-subsidized market works as
the free enterprise folks say. A few smoking coffeehouses, many
smoke-free, and another going smoke-free every few months.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Steve Nelson wrote:
> > Scott McGerik
> > South St P
nothing at all, that's my motto.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004, gemgram wrote:
> Resist Minneapolis!
>
> Let me start by saying I think tobacco smoking is a terrible, nasty, awful
> addiction. But it is an addiction that is condoned and legal in
> Minneapolis.
.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, Ray Marshall wrote:
> This may be true. But the question remains: what other programs will
> be subject to a $400,000 cut to enable the continuation of the radio
> curriculum? Is the demand for radio station employees that great that
> school
f the Taxi2000 style) - the
flood gates would open, and their monopoly power and profits would vanish.
So expect these big interests to be their usual unethical underhanded
nasty selves. Follow the money.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Barbara Lickness wrote:
> Robin is righ
PRT.
So which transportation choice will the building trades (and their
attached liberals) love, and which will they with an all-consuming
passion hate?
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Sheldon Mains wrote:
> Barbara--this site is about the Seattle Greenline Monorail. It is not a
e in
the spirit of open discussion), it neatly solves at one and the same time
the problems of transportation and of overpopulation.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Allen Graetz's comparison of a PRT vehicle to luggage at the Denver
> Inte
PRT is electric. You can ride (across the Taxi2000 shop) in the demo
vehicle, look at the motor, listen to the quiet. It's almost like sailing.
--David Shove
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Resist America wrote:
> In regard to our discussion of PRT, I have to say that
> I like the bus syste
ivate property.
The neighbors I have left put up a stink about this, but it's none of
their business.
-David Shove
Roseville
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Victoria Heller wrote:
>
> Whether it's leaves, smoke, hot air, or anything else -- do not give up your
> RIGHT TO BLOW, at l
ity
(eg a certain lot of state fair pronto-pups), or sink into sloth - but
till then, think of the cost savings! The saving wear and tear on our
fragile brains! O, bliss! O blessed somnolence! Zz
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Aaron Klemz asked:
do it, because you
can't fight the constrution companies.
Or, otherwise put, when are citizens going to get the contruction
companies and their owning egos off our backs? When are we going to agree
on a vision for our cities, and then stand up and fight for it?
David Shove
Roseville
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include a variety of housing and businesses. Learn more about how TND is
being used in St. Paul right now, and might be utilized further. Equally
valuable for Mpls.
Presented by the Green Party of StPaul/4CD
--David Shove
Roseville
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ious diesel fumes and noise are replaced by the heat and steam of some of
> our best idling citizens."
Idl-atry?
--David Shove
Roseville
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are overjoyed to see sales taxes go up. It just encourages them
to cut taxes on the rich more, and let the gullible citizens make up the
loss by sales taxes.
Tax the gd rich, and leave the poor alone. Yield to the rich in nothing.
--David Shove
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, David Brauer wrote:
>
e and corporate taxes. We'd do better than be robbed and
disabled by the rich, as we are today.
--David Shove
Roseville
ordinary
people -
who are their natural foes - would be hindered by poorly funded education
atc, and thus less able to challenge the rich as they take the next step
toward
otest and teach-in
today at 2:30pm, in the Kennedy High lunch room (9701 Nicollet Ave.,
Bloomington).
3. Forward this solidarity appeal on to your friends, family, and any
email lists you are on.
--fwd David Shove
Roseville
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Something this basic should be provided by the city. Corporations are a
creature of government; we are the government; why do we let them act like
warlords?
--David Shove
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Jeanne Massey wrote:
>
>
> Jennifer L. Rubenzer
>
> Is a "wireless city" a
I found the summary ineffective. Perhaps it will improve in 4 years -
effective from day 1461. It made me feel as if it were trying to be
something it isn't, so I wonder if I could trust it. And overall,
ineffective, unless Shakespeare returns to rewrite it.
--David Shove
sauce for goose/g
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Jane Strauss wrote:
> Wow! To what do I owe the good fortune that they all missed me??? :-)
Robot's Rules of Order.
--David Shove
Roboseville
>
> Jane Strauss, Longfellow,
>
> Who has a small special needs kid at home and probably won't be
freezes out all minorities
and diversity at the very lowest level.
As an advocate for PR and IRV, I would hate to see the DFL drop the best
procedure they have, for one of the worst.
-David Shove
Roseville
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Mike Nelson wrote:
> >
> &g
I side with the ban. Bring it on. Defend it.
Beat Big Tobacco. Beat know-nothing redneckism.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Dan wrote:
> > The statewide smoking ban ran into problems today in the House Commerce
> > Committee. The bill is being declared dead by some
he price of gasoline doubles and triples in the next years. But they
don't care - they want their money (from us) NOW, and to hell with what is
left, after they take their cash and scram to some secluded isle safe from
all developers (like themselves).
--David Shove
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005,
natives to the Wal-Mart model.
Wal-Mart Month is an excellent opportunity to continue the conversation
about the kind of business practices we as citizens want to see in St.
Paul.
CONTACT Andy Hamerlinck, Co-Chair, Green Party of St. Paul p: 651-340-1079
e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i: http://www.gpsp.org
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Hasn't anyone here heard of training in non-violins?
--David Shove
Roseville
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005, Tim Bonham wrote:
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> >it was the first time in about 40 years that an incumbent City Council
> >Member had been defeated in a primary.
> >. . .
> >The Elite Few don
liability were added to it.
Insurance gurus?)
--David Shove
Roseville
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005, Steve Nelson wrote:
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> Since the objections to a smoking ban seem to be a fear of loss of
> profits over concern for employees health, I propose the following law
> be enacted to preserve th
t mind
that their "freedom" is bought at the parallel denial of freedom to
non-smokers. The smoking "culture" - with luck, in another generation,
smoky bar scenes will be behind glass in museums, with fake smoke and
artificial dummies.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Sun, 13 Mar
I received mail today addressed to OVEROCCUPANT.
I suppose now I can expect an overoccupanty raid.
--David Shove
preoccupied in Roseville
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Michael Jensvold wrote:
> If we have to have occupancy rules they should be
> based on persons per square foot, or maybe res
your reply.
David Shove
Roseville
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Tim Bonham wrote:
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> >I have yet to see three questions answered.
> >
> >1) Who will be cleaning these vehicles between trips? Do they really think
> >that all passengers will leave them as clean as they found t
lenty
runs the floating crap game! A *permanent* Aquatennial!
Wash your cares away / as athletes play! What's not to love?
--David Shove
Water on the brain in Roseville
Dibs on the underriver parking concession
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Dan McGuire wrote:
> I think the stadium should be built
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Dean Here: So what? What's your point? The school's there, they need
> facilities.
Dave here: I'm here, I need power, fame, the love of beautiful women...
David Shove
looking for more in Roseville
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