BTW,
Having referred you to another midwives site for some
ideas when they are needed (esp for reassurance)I have to say that keeping
you mouth shut is often the wisest thing to do.
Last night I spent the evening with a labouring women
I saw once again howbeing jerked out
of labour-land
Fantastic idea, a National Educational Television
Programme.
ABC perhaps?
Who has a contact person there ?
Individual, specialised service is a big issue right
nowfor the 30 something's.
IOL, Choices in Birthing etc are areas where women are
treated enmasse, in 2005 women want to be treated
Hi Andrea,
What a great idea to increase public awareness of what
midwives are all about.
The BBC have a penchant for great doco series, reality
without OTT drama.
Unfortunately Australia is so
Americanised both culturally politically that it believes
anything the USA promotes is the
Thank you Sally.
I will copy this give it to our local
Obstetricians.
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Subject: [ozmidwifery] unscarred Uterine
rupture
The Golan study
Melissa,
Shock ?
Rapid labours births often result in shocked
infants. They are just not ready to be here.
The pres'n was probably irrelevant, unless a tight cord
round theneck had caused the hyperextended head in the first
place.
You'll probably never know, but sounds like you did a
Denise,
They spoke about both.
The audio of the programme is available on Radio
National ( stream) for all 3 days if you missed it. Just need 'real time' of
'media player' for your computer.
http://abc.net.au/rn/talks/lm/index/lmtranscriptidx
Informative but nothing you didn't know
already.
sophy but in action, for
the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by
anyone, our bodies will be handled."
Linda Hes
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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, Jul
Janine,
In our small Mid unit ( 300+ births
P/A) we average one ELC/s birthper week. I cannot recall the last time we had a PPH following a birth
bythis method.
All women return to the ward with a Synt Infusion ( 40
u in 1000mls over 4 hours). Repeated PRN (this is veryrarely
required).
Kelly,
I would be really interested to see your list comment if appropriate.
Brenda M
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I am happy to help, my PhD
Hi Jo,
Directed at your Mothers enquiry:
There really isn't another 'point of view', just the
facts.
The management of Rh Neg women during pregnancy has
altered in the past 1-2-years. Possibly this has caused
confusionbecauseyour Dr is suggesting a new strategy which he hasn't
fully
MM,
When I explain the presently recommended
protocol for current management, it doesn't mean that I support or endorse it
!
Just providing the basic
rationale.
Inthe local small Mid unit herewe
have a high proportion of Jehovahs Witnesses as clients. They are predominantly
RH Neg (due
: brendamanning
Date: 07/26/05
18:19:26
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re:
[ozmidwifery] Rh anti-D
Sally,
If women we see at our
midwives clinic decline Anti D because the father of their babeis
None taken
Brenda
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Murphy
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:29
PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE:RH - Anti
D
Hi Brenda, I did not
intend to offend you. I picked that part of the
Title: Message
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Leanne
To: brendamanning
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:51 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] B/feeding implants?
Brenda, I have not heard of any specific risk of encapsulation associated
with implants (I think what
Kate,
I suspect it's a combination of both a captive audience (in hosp) setting
a habit of reg vax. Plus it also reinforces the image that the hospitals
support vax programmes.
I query the timing myself unless the infant is going into a high risk
situation.
The attempt to not allow any 'at
Susan,
At present it comes from the USA, with all the attendant risks of donors who
are paid to donate.
LOL at you ref to the disruption in running the A/N clinic, that's exactly
how I feel !! As for the storing it in the clinic, God knows what we'd do
with it eh? To quote a Professor of
Perhaps possible with a recessive gene ?
Autosomal dominant or not etc..
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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:45 PM
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At the risk of sounding
Mmm...
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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Rh anti-D
There is no possibility 2 RH- parents can have an RH+ baby. The positive
gene
Sue,
We share a blood fridge with our General Hospital so it
is never without stock. The person using the second last ampoule is responsible
for faxing a reorder form to Red Cross. We record all doses given in a book
attached to the fridge itself, I think the AE Dept use as much as we
do.
Another query.
How successful have you found acupuncture for IOL and
carpal tunnel (in late pregnancy) ?
Anyone?
Brenda M
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I have seen more thana few vaginal triplet births
in the days before the "C/S happy" mindset prevailed.
They were of assorted breech/ceph combos, but I can't
recall any with any problems in the actual birth.
I clearly recall 3 sets being term infants !!
Pacific Islander Mums - very
Good on you Jayne.
Sometimes challenging the system is the only way to make their
bullying/intimidating stop.
Brenda
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Gloria,
Would you be happy to share the name where that
DVD can be found.? It could be inspirational for some women ( and OBs) here
?
Thanks
Brenda M
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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 11:09
AM
of the
births but the DVD is just so special. Highly recommended.
http://www.earthbirthproductions.com/index_files/Page864.htm
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Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 6:30
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Subject: Re
Madelaine,
I'm sure you have already discussed that obesity is a
primary cause of infertility.
It's amazing how successful weight loss is in achieving
pregnancy when other more complextreatments diagnoseshave
failed though.
Brenda
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Madelaine
Good Grief !
Who in the real world does this anyway with a normal labour?
What woman in her right mind would LET a midwife do this without a very good
reason?
Sounds like text book mid doesn't it?
Where's the common sense here?
I agree with Sally, leave the poor woman baby alone to do their
Well said Gloria, very well said !
Brenda
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Subject: Re: Fw: [ozmidwifery] Encouraging twins into a good presentation.
The risk of cord prolapse is increased with a
I notice that it is expected that Midwives base their practice on evidence
research.
It would appear on the other hand that the medical profession are able to
practice on whatever they believe. They do not feel obliged to justify their
preference or practice.
Why is this so?
Why are midwives
Mary,
Whist I agree with you know you are rightthere are no 'large scale
retrospective studies' to back up half of what the average medico does how
often is s/he called in to question?
Where's the logic ?
Sometimes I just think Midwives are by nature too compliant.
Imagine the response
Sally,
I think you have a very valid point could argue it effectively.
Good luck !
Brenda
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Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 3:03 PM
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Janet,
Better than forceps.
How about :
www.gpnotebook.co.uk
fairly comprehensive.
Or:
www.juniormagazine.co.uk
Or:
www.diseasesdatabase.com
Any good?
Brenda M
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Sent:
Good luck Nicola, I'm sure you'll love the course.
It's great work you are doing.
The more support women get the better !!
Cheers Brenda M
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Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005
I always inform women that they need to approach negotiate with their HF
regarding payments.
If enough women demand payment by letter or speaking to the manager they
will often succeed.
They are after all,. savingthe HF thousands by staying at home. The
bellybelly web site has an interesting
So true.
Self control is not always an appropriate thing.
Women who need to be good girls( for the reasons we all know about) have
to use alot of self control in labour, it's really hard work for them, sad.
Brenda
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So true.
Self control is not always an appropriate thing.
Women who need to be good girls( for the reasons we all know
-Mother/baby bond - Nature or nurture - 2000
words-Physical violence against women - 2500words.
Any research or info greatly appreciated.
Brenda Manningwww.themidwife.com.au
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Honey,
Not at Rosebud mid unit, unfortunately.
Brenda
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Acharya
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 2:29
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] VBAC's and
Midwifery led birth centres
Hi All
Wondering if
Andrea,
I do work at Rosebud (Peninsula Health Network) what you say applies
across the networks campuses(also at The Bays in Mngtn Private).
That is : a MIPP is only able to accompany women as a support person,not act
as accoucher, nor act in any legal capacity ( to do with insurance).
It
Have I got this right?
The plan is ..for midwives to be trained
ina school of Technology ?
Good Grief !!!
Someone pleasetell me
thatwe are still considering ourselves
healthprofessionals who specialise in pregnancy care. NOT Technicians.
Please?Maybe
just a little
Easy cheap to buy Gentian Violet over the counter, that's why Pharmacies
don't suggest it (no profit in it for the pharmaceutical companies).
Brenda
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www.themidwife.com.au
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Sadie,
Apologies.
I generally see the woods very clearly.
I'm wondering what this prejudice you speak of entails
?
From within the profession oroutside it
?
Surely a good midwife is just that: good.aren't your peers just relating to you as
competent or not ?
Is their opinion
so!!
Sally
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[ozmidwifery] VBAC's and Midwifery led birth centres
A
for daring to touch the baby, even
thoughtherecould have been consequences had I not done so!!Sally---Original
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Date:
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ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject:
Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC's and Midwifery led birth centres
Janet,
This IOL for Drs going on holidays happens all the time
! I'm not saying it's right, just that it's very common.
It's also very common to book women knowing that the OB
will be on leave when she's due a colleague will cover, but they usually
tell the woman that this is the case.
I'm
of the practitioner is dangerous and unethical. I
think the outrage is warranted. Primum non nocere.
Gloria
Quoting brendamanning [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Janet,
This IOL for Drs going on holidays happens all the time ! I'm not saying
it's
right, just that it's very common.
It's also very common
Jenny,
This education process about healthy birth the
midwifery role plus reproductive health from a normal perspective is what the
"Core of Life ' program Deb Pattrick Tracey Smith developed for the
Peninsula Health Network.
Check out their website on:http://www.coreoflife.org
Hopefully
the one that she
sees
regularly so why pretend? Birthing women deserve to be informed of these
silent
peculiarities so that they're not ambushed on the day the birth begins.
Gloria
Quoting brendamanning [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Gloria,
It is not 'lying' (definition: withholding or distorting truth
Mary,
I too have done this it works!
Informing women that they \
don't have to push their heart soul out , the baby will come anyway also
often does the trick, takes the pressure off them the baby !
BM
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Welcome Paivi,
You have got it right, don't ever doubt that there is a better way for women
to receive pregnancy care than the way it's happening now. What you are
suggesting is very right.
Feeling that you are setting women up for disappointment is part of
instigating change to some
Janet,
Perhaps the 'Core of Life' girls would consider
extending their secondary schoolprogram to primary schools.See: www,coreoflife.org
You could suggest it to them ( Deb
Tracey).
Why reinvent the wheel, the program is already hugely
successful ? The BMid student could train to be
Honey,
The 4 Obs in the local practice do this routinely, introduce women to the
covering OB for one visit so he is 'known' face if he's needed.
It works OK.
BM
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Sent: Thursday, August 18,
not really reinventing anything ; )
JJoyous
BirthHome birthforum.
A world
first!
http://www://joyousbirth.info/forums
Accessing
Artemis- birth trauma recovery.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/accessingartemis
From: "brendamanning"
[EMAIL
Vedrana,
And you still have a sense of humour ! What a woman !
What needs to happen to change things then ?
Brenda
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Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 5:17 PM
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if I covered it all.
It IS inspiring to read your list, one gets many ideas.
Vedrana
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Might I ask where/what is Belmont ?
Or am I the only person who doesn't know (quite likely)
lol?
BM
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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:20
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Seeing newsOf
Belmont?
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] when to cut an episiotomy
Paivi
This article was in a Melbourne newspaper 12 months
ago, probably quite current stats. It can be seen in it's entirety
Emily,
This is quite common for lots of reasons but very often where the cervix is
at just hasn't caught up to where the body is at ie the woman looks acts
fully but is only partly dilated, her behaviour her cervical dilation
aren't congruent.
I'm not sure what the answer is but it's
Emily,
I don't think you could get a post vag wall lac prior to being fully because
the head ( which does the tearing) is not on the pelvic floor before the Cx
is fully.
Must be another explanation.
BM
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SORRY !!
No doubt.
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Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] if mother wants to be directed for pushing
yeh i realise that :)
i just thought it might have been because of
Hi Sue,
Take a big,deep breath, and
anothernow.think: who stands to
gain most from this data who stands to lose most ??
You are mind-blown because in yourheart, you know
better !
Just to recap...
Based on what you learned inone3
In todays Australian
Obstetricians rally to fight birth of midwife units.doc
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Really in any birthing situation there is no place for any objective
observer/bystander at whichever end.
If you are not contributing to the energy in the room then you are depleting
it. This applies to fathers as well as anyone else.
Watching something contributing or participating in it are 2
Sue,
I wish we could teach women that they can say NO
to C/S.
No consent, no surgery.
What can we do to enable them to just have faith?
I know it's the old education, education, education but it's just so wrong
!
Very distressing, makes me want to cry!
We used tohave beautiful standing
Lea,
Your classes sound great.
I wonder if anyone does these or similar in Melbourne specifically for men
??
BM
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Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Men at
c-section in a good hospital. Or, a
homebirth with an experienced independent mw.
Rachel
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Sue,
I wish we could
Or the women could just try saying
'NO' I don't consent to surgery, I will if needed, but not "just in
case"..
No consent, no surgery!
Stay home with a capable MW for as
long as possible then go to the hospital ??
I'm cross with the oBs (not that
you can't tell !! Won't
Yes Sally, far more reasonable answer, obviously not
cranky like me !!
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Sally Westbury
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:02
AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Friend with
breach baby...told CS only
to comprehend of how the system works and actually believe their Obs
when they tell them total crap.
OK I'm done too. For the moment!
: )
J
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Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 5:39 PM
Subject: Re
Anne,
Scream away, good for releasing tension !
Not true that RANZCOG represents the views of all OBs. I spoke to 3 this week
who stated their college does not express their views at all. However they felt
that they possibly not probably (semantics) represented the views of the
majority.
Kylie,
Just my 2c worth !
This sounds more likely to be related to your little
ones hips than her kidneys.
Perhaps she has a degree of congenital hip dysplasia
which has been missed?
All will be revealedby the Xrays, in the
meantime, love her heaps try not to worry. If she looks well she
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Janet,
Yes please
Many thanks.
Brenda
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From:
Janet
Fraser
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:30
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Workshop
Brenda would you like me to
advertise this on Joyous Birth
birth video?
Utterly
perfect
7 Abercorn Avenue Ivanhoe
3079
Thank you so much! It's
wonderful to be able to show women how birth *can* be with
support.
J
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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
educators and dieticians.
Midwives NOT being specialist anything I
guess???
Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au
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But do you eat jelly
Worse.
B
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LOL that was my suspicion.
well.
Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au
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Kelly,
What is EPO ?
Brenda
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Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 12:05 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Oral EPO dose for cervix?
Hello everyone,
I know it's probably a bit late to try this, but
For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby
Australian Little Tikes Specialists
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Kelly,
What is EPO ?
Brenda
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Sorry, I mean stand firm with the NO EL C/S not IOL..either
really..think I'll just go back to bed SO that my brain
will function normally, weeell better anyway!
BM
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Hi Ozmidders
Anyone know of a MIPP in Devonport, Tasmania? Or sympathetic OB
thereabouts.
Please.
Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au
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What about MMU Units
Mothers Midwives United
Mother Lead Unit (MLU) Unit ?
What about women or mother chosen care ( MCC) ?
OR
It's a women chosen care/r centre ? ie the WCC unit.
BM
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Every time I see the Dept of BDM mentioned I think
of:
"Bondage, Domination Masochism" !!
Or is that just my freaky sense of humour
??
BM
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Sally Westbury
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:20
AM
Anne
Nothing is wrong with MLUnitsbut surely they are
mother led, the midwives are secondary to the birth journey not primary, aren't
they ?
Do we need to keep the egos in check ?Alot of MW
have alot of personal power, control ego issues will acknowledge
that themselves.
They need to
Hi listers,
A ?
Do you think CPD is overdiagnosed ? If so how often would this misdiagnosis
occur do you think ? Plus how often is it wrong ?
Any idea where I'd find this info ??
Brenda
www.themidwife.com.au
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J
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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:48
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Subject: [ozmidwifery] CPD
Hi listers,
A ?
Do you think CPD is overdiagnosed ? If so how o
r!!katrina :-)
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20/09/2005, at 2:50 PM, brendamanning wrote:
Every time I see the Dept of
BDM mentioned I think
of:"Bondage, Domination
Masochism" !!Or is that
just my freaky sense of humour ??BM
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Honey,
I am in line with the other IP /MW comments on tears at
home.
Complicated tears require expert suturing that's
what OBs are specialists at, dealing with abnormal events.
I have been suturing for 16 years will do
anything I feelIcan do well.If I felt I couldn't do a good job ,I'd
Why aren't you allowed to suture Rachel ?
BM
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From: wump fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Question
I wouldn't suture a 3rd or 4th degree tear at all - at home or in
Kate,
Must admit I also promote 'women friendly' care, not including some of the
things your colleague does, but if we don't care for the mothers how can we
expect them to nurture their babies??
They need nurturing too, mothers need mothering baby-friendly can be very
hard on the women. I
It's not just all about breast-feeding though is it ?
BM
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From: Emily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!
wow
does she not know
their
relationships, mental states lives are often in despair.
We need to provide a balance, that's the issue.
BM
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From: brendamanning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led
Family Pregnancy Parenting Unit/Centre ?
You've really come back full circle then to Family BC haven't you?
Which was the original Monash BC Name if I remember correctly ??
BM
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, September 22,
Gloria,
This is all a bit illuminating really !!
Yes, unfortunately you are absolutely right Gloria, it's all 'word-play'
isn't it?
Nowhere is care mother-led except at home even then only if the midwives
have the honour to step back 'allow' true maternal choice. MW are as
guilty as any
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From: brendamanning
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Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MCVic] Castlemaine update
Hi Marney,
Congratulations, on all fronts.
I am surprised you've gone for the free standing pool
in pref to the corner bath.
We have
Hi Jennifer,
I completely agree that sometimes a corner spa
is pref to afree standing pool esp when you take into account the water
restrictions etc.
We have a free-standing pool at Rosebud Mid
a corner bath.
Of the 2, the corner is much cosier, the
access isn't a problem for the
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