Re: [PEIRCE-L] Graphical Representations of the Sign by Peirce

2024-01-11 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ynamical interpretant--its actual effect on that individual interpreter--along with the sign being analyzed. Hence, the *same *sign can have *different *dynamical interpretants for different interpreters who have different collateral experience and different habits of interpretation. Regards, Jon Alan

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categorizations of triadic Relationships (Was Re: Graphical Representations of the Sign by Peirce)

2024-01-10 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
," I prefer to call it "mediating" because Peirce more generally defines a sign as "anything, of whatsoever mode of being, which mediates between an object and an interpretant" (EP 2:410, 1907). Regards, Jon On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 5:08 PM Jon Alan Schmidt wrote: &

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categorizations of triadic Relationships (Was Re: Graphical Representations of the Sign by Peirce)

2024-01-09 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
object through the mediation of this "sign." The object and the interpretant are thus merely the two correlates of the sign; the one being antecedent, the other consequent of the sign. (EP 2:410, 1907) Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Graphical Representations of the Sign by Peirce

2024-01-08 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
by that interpretant. Hence, the object determines the interpretant through the mediation of the sign while being unaffected by that interpretant. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com

Re: [PEIRCE-L] How do we formalize the triadic sign?

2024-01-08 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
elation of mediating (or representing) *involves *those two dyadic relations, it is not *composed *of them in the sense that it is not built up from them nor reducible to them. [image: image.png] Regards, Jon On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 1:39 PM Jon Alan Schmidt wrote: > Ben, List: > > I share

Re: [PEIRCE-L] How do we formalize the triadic sign?

2024-01-07 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
name has three dots (also called "hooks" or "pegs" in other writings) to which Peirce assigned those names in the subsequent text. Here is an image of that handwritten sentence in R 670 (1911). [image: image.png] Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structura

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Graphical Representations of the Sign by Peirce

2024-01-05 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
nt of theory, I am of opinion that we ought not to limit ourselves to signs but ought to take account of certain objects more or less analogous to signs. In practice, however, I have paid little attention to these quasi-signs. (EP 2:257, 1903) Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Stru

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Graphical Representations of the Sign by Peirce

2024-01-05 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
gt; Best regards, > > Cécile > > -- > *Cécile Cosculluela* > MC anglais UPPA ∗ SSH ∗ LEA > Maître de Conférences en Etudes Anglophones > *Associate Professor of English as a Second Language* > *Semiotics • Linguistics • Grammar • Translation* &

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Graphical Representations of the Sign by Peirce

2024-01-05 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
und the perimeter of the name of the relation itself. Hence, these two examples are equivalent. [image: image.png] Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Fri

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Graphical Representations of the Sign by Peirce

2024-01-05 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
*of the triadic relation of *representing *or (more generally) *mediating*. As such, it corresponds to one of the three lines of identity in CP 1.347, while its object and interpretant correspond to the other two. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist

Re: [PEIRCE-L] interpretant and thirdness

2023-12-18 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
egards, Jon On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 1:45 PM Jon Alan Schmidt wrote: > Gary R., List: > > I did not say anything one way or the other about involution, I just > explained why I used "determines." However, carefully parsing that quote > (CP 5.72, EP 2:162, 1903),

Re: [PEIRCE-L] interpretant and thirdness

2023-12-16 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
at he says that for any class in whose essential idea the predominant element is 3ns, there are three subclasses--one involving a relatively genuine 3ns, one involving a relatively reactional 3ns, and one involving a relatively qualitative 3ns. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structura

Re: [PEIRCE-L] interpretant and thirdness

2023-12-15 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
lowed by the two genera of > degeneracy seem to me marked categorially: dynamic/"reactional" (2ns) and > immediate/"qualitative"1ns) as are all the other elements in Peirce's > classification as I read it. So why exclude the three interpretants from > Peirce's classificat

Re: [PEIRCE-L] interpretant and thirdness

2023-12-15 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ARISBE: THE PEIRCE GATEWAY is now at https://cspeirce.com and, just as well, at https://www.cspeirce.com . It'll

Re: [PEIRCE-L] interpretant and thirdness

2023-12-12 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ct, please see my recent *Semiotica *paper, "Peirce's Evolving Interpretants" (https://philpapers.org/archive/SCHPEI-12.pdf). Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitte

Re: [PEIRCE-L] interpretant and thirdness

2023-12-07 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
gin. (CP 6.582, 1890) [image: image.png] Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 12:03 PM Mary Libertin wrote: > Jon, > > You

Re: [PEIRCE-L] interpretant and thirdness

2023-12-06 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
905) is an undivided whole from which we prescind predicates, hypostasize some of those predicates into subjects, and then attribute others to those subjects by formulating propositions--namely, perceptual judgments, "the first premisses of all our reasonings" (CP 5.116, EP 2:191, 1903). Regards,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] phaneroscopic observation

2023-10-05 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
rful methods in logical analysis. > > BTW, the link provided did not work for me. Here is a similar one that > did: https://doi.org/10.2979/csp.2023.a900117. Hat tip for the reference; > it looks very interesting. > > Best, Mike > On 10/5/2023 12:17 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt wro

Re: [PEIRCE-L] phaneroscopic observation

2023-10-05 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
tic] abstraction creates subjects. Both predicates and subjects are creations of thought. (NEM 3:917, 1904) A recent paper by Garzón-Rodríguez and Niño ( https://doi.org/10.2979/trancharpeirsoc.59.1.04) similarly discusses the continuity of cognition. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kans

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-22 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
id's Fifth Proposition (*Pons Asinorum*) as an illustrative example. A book chapter that I recently co-authored with Joseph Dauben and List moderator Gary Richmond, "Peirce on Abduction and Diagrams in Mathematical Reasoning" ( https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-03945-4_25), might also pro

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Conflict between deduction and discovery in mathematics

2023-08-19 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ive essence of theoric thought is. I can at present say this much with some confidence. It is the directing of the attention to a sort of object not explicitly referred to in the enunciation of the problem in hand. (NEM 3:622, 1908) Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural E

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Law of Mind and Origins of Order in the Cosmos

2023-07-19 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
must be based on mathematical/probabilistic chance, not metaphysical/absolute chance; so it is only useful for simulating "the evolution of order in the early cosmos" to a limited degree, like the "pseudo-continuum" of real numbers is useful for *approximating *a true con

[PEIRCE-L] Speculative Grammar for Continuous Semiosis (was Categories for states and processes)

2023-07-04 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Names are creations of a second order serving to render the representation of propositions possible. (R 295, 1906) Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Mon, J

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categories for states and processes

2023-07-02 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
the object. A pure index would denote its object without signifying any interpretant, and the closest that we can come to such a sign is one whose only effect is drawing attention to something else. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Objects and Perception (was God and the Universe (was The Thing In Itself))

2023-06-12 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
sed exclusively of signs" (CP 5.448n, EP 2:394, 1906)--which is precisely why it is intelligible at all. In short, everything is, in itself, of the nature of a sign, and therefore cognizable. Cheers, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran

[PEIRCE-L] Objects and Perception (was God and the Universe (was The Thing In Itself))

2023-06-10 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
an by "the interpretant/object generative which is here proven" and "the structural premise of much 'interpretant generation' in Peirce," but I hope that this is relevant and helpful. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lut

[PEIRCE-L] God and the Universe (was The Thing In Itself)

2023-06-09 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
f deliberate conduct accordingly. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 3:51 PM Helmut Raulien wrote: > Jeffrey, List, > &g

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again). (Assemblage Formalisms - inference).

2023-06-08 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
minimum, they occupy different locations in space. Unless they are sons of George Foreman, we can distinguish them by using their proper names, which Peirce classified as rhematic indexical legisigns; or if we happen to be with them in the same room, then we can do so simply by pointing at them. Than

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again). (Assemblage Formalisms - inference).

2023-06-07 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
sent. For both Kant and Peirce, metaphysics depends on logic for principles, not the other way around. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Tue, Jun 6, 202

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again). (Assemblage Formalisms - inference).

2023-06-05 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
he science which sets in order those observations which lie open to every man every day and hour, experience can only mean the total cognitive result of living, and includes interpretations quite as truly as it does the matter of sense" (CP 7.538, 1899). Cheers, Jon Alan Schmidt - Ol

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again). (Assemblage Formalisms - inference).

2023-06-04 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
*immediate *object), but it is precisely how an infinite community *would *represent it after infinite inquiry. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Sun, Jun 4,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again). (Assemblage Formalisms - inference).

2023-06-04 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
've began drafting (not > overly long as in the last essay-post and more conventional). > > Thanks again. > > Jack > > ---------- > *From:* peirce-l-requ...@list.iupui.edu > on behalf of Jon Alan Schmidt > *Sent:* Sunday, June 4, 2023 3:23 A

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again). (Assemblage Formalisms - inference).

2023-06-03 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ey isn't > "infinite community" but whether it is necessary to infer the existence of > the thing in itself. For if this is necessary, then it matters not if the > period of time be finite or infinite. > > And, again, I side with Peirce in the Welby exerpt. I believe it is

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again). (Assemblage Formalisms - inference).

2023-06-02 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
e *inquiry. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 4:04 PM JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY < jack.cody.2...@mumail.ie> wrote: > Jon, List, > &g

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again). (Assemblage Formalisms - inference).

2023-06-02 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
uot; (CP 6.95, 1903). By contrast, "Kant failed to work out all the consequences of this third moment of thought and considerable retractions are called for, accordingly, from some of the positions of his Transcendental Dialectic" (ibid). Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structu

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again). (Assemblage Formalisms - inference).

2023-06-02 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Jack, List: Again, if the "thing in itself" can be inferred, then it can be represented and is not incognizable after all. So, Peirce was right and Kant was wrong. Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.Li

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again). (Assemblage Formalisms - inference).

2023-06-02 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
s with feedback > given from various quarters, be inferred to exist via the formalisms I > employ. That is, I claim here that I have proven the core part of Kant's > thesis whilst my own does not necessarily have to stay within the Kantian > limits but does, as you rightly point out, have

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again). (Assemblage Formalisms - inference).

2023-06-02 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ait a long back and forth as to the entire structure and premis(ses) of > the series/argument/conclusion (as such is necessary). > > I will fetch a summary and argument-treatment for you, though, - thanks > again for offering to critique. > > Best > > Jack > > ---

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again). (Assemblage Formalisms - inference).

2023-06-02 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
these terms seem to be central to your "proof" and thus need rigorous definitions for how they are being used in this particular context. Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / t

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again). (Assemblage Formalisms - inference).

2023-05-27 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Jack, List: Infinite, continuous, and recursive are not synonymous. Gödel's incompleteness theorems pertain only to axiomatic formal systems of mathematical logic. The term "value" is vague and still lacks a rigorous definition for how it is being used in this particular context. No one is

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again).

2023-05-10 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
the less effect it has upon that quasi-mind other than that of determining it as if the object itself had acted upon it. (EP 2:391, 1906) Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.co

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again).

2023-05-05 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
.html). One last comment (for now)--Peirce's universal categories of 1ns, 2ns, and 3ns do not "belong to logic as semeiotic." On the contrary, as he explicitly and repeatedly explains, they are discovered in phaneroscopy and then applied in all the other positive sciences. Regards, Jon

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again).

2023-05-03 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ing *capable *of being represented, and so far, your alleged "proof" does not come anywhere close to demonstrating otherwise. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/Jon

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Thing In Itself (Kant and Peirce - Again).

2023-05-03 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
nal, intelligible, conceivable, and utterly unlike a thing-in-itself. (CP 5.553, EP 2:380) Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 11:04 AM

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Elliptic, Parabolic, and Hyperbolic (was A question for pragmatists)

2023-05-02 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ifestation (CP 1.615, EP 2:255, 1903) Are there others? Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on &qu

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Basis of Synechism in Phaneroscopy

2023-05-01 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
List: FYI, PhilPapers has apparently deleted the PDF of my slides at the link that I provided below, so I have now posted it at https://www.academia.edu/101052113/The_Basis_of_Synechism_in_Phaneroscopy instead. Thanks, Jon On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 4:34 PM Jon Alan Schmidt wrote: > L

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Elliptic, Parabolic, and Hyperbolic (was A question for pragmatists)

2023-04-27 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
rupt beginning and end" (CP 1.274, 1902), like the posited "Big Bang" and "Big Crunch" singularities. As Peirce points out, the problem with such an approach is that these would be "arbitrary exceptions not warranted by experience." Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt

[PEIRCE-L] Elliptic, Parabolic, and Hyperbolic (was A question for pragmatists)

2023-04-26 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
inquiry to its ideal ending point. The same > holds for the metaphysical hypothesis offered as an explanation of the > cosmological evolution of the universe. > > Yours, > > Jeff > ---------- > *From:* peirce-l-requ...@list.iupui.edu > on behalf of Jo

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A question for pragmatists

2023-04-25 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
by contraries. (CP 8.317, 1891) Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 4:10 PM Jeffrey Brian Downard < peirce-l@list.iupui.edu> wrote

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Summum Bonum and Determination (was A question for pragmatists)

2023-04-25 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ongoing existential embodiment of real generals, i.e., the conversion of indeterminate conditional necessities into determinate individual actualities as the contingent future is constantly becoming the accomplished past at the nascent present. Thanks again, Jon On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 12:46 PM Jon

[PEIRCE-L] Summum Bonum and Determination (was A question for pragmatists)

2023-04-25 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
in detail, including its implications for time and cosmology, in sections 6-7 of my "Temporal Synechism" paper. As I said before, our reasoning/learning *about *the universe is recursive, but the *overall *process of semiosis is hyperbolic--from the dynamical object through the sign tow

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A question for pragmatists

2023-04-24 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
9th-century European-American optimism > that landed us in the Anthropocene! > > Love, gary > > Coming from the ancestral lands of the Anishinaabeg > > } Open your mouth, always be busy, and life is beyond hope. [*Daodejing* > 52 (Feng/English)] { > > https://gnusyste

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A question for pragmatists

2023-04-21 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ntains that its final state will be different from and better than its initial state. I am in the process of transcribing the whole text and might gain some further insights along the way. Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christia

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A question for pragmatists

2023-04-21 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
one but I did not have any luck with those links Jon. > > Dan > > On Apr 21, 2023, at 09:49, Jon Alan Schmidt > wrote: > > Martin, List: > > Indeed, I have argued in publications about structural engineering ( > https://www.structuremag.org/?p=10373) and cognitiv

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A question for pragmatists

2023-04-21 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
alism" and "endism" in this context. Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 8:34 PM Martin W. Kettelhut wrote: > Thank you, Jon.

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Is anyone familiar with this book by Tursman?

2023-04-21 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
st, nor third from second." This principle goes all the way back to "A New List of Categories" (1867) and thus is Peirce 101, or at least Phaneroscopy 101. Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchm

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A question for pragmatists

2023-04-20 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ause (3ns), instead of the all-too-common approach of *pushing* them toward it as an *efficient* cause (2ns). This allows appropriate flexibility in the *means *that they can employ to reach the specified end, as opposed to dictating every step along the way. Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kans

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Basis of Synechism in Phaneroscopy

2023-04-19 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
hing would have been in the future. "The absolutely last consequent" corresponds to "The 'Truth,' the fact that is not abstracted but complete, [which] is the ultimate interpretant of every sign" in KS, when the sheet would be filled up because everything would be in the past. Than

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Basis of Synechism in Phaneroscopy

2023-04-19 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
elmut fall within the subject matter of *this *thread, which is specifically intended for further discussion about the "10-Minute Thesis Initiative" session that the Charles S. Peirce Society conducted last Saturday. Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, S

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Basis of Synechism in Phaneroscopy

2023-04-17 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
action, are other elements, without the independence of which Thirdness would not have anything upon which to operate" (CP 6.202, 1898). Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAl

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Basis of Synechism in Phaneroscopy

2023-04-17 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
*time is an indefinite moment--what we are always experiencing as the present--not a durationless instant, nor a finite lapse. Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchm

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Basis of Synechism in Phaneroscopy

2023-04-17 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ook forward to a point in the infinitely distant future when there will be no indeterminacy or chance but a complete reign of law. But at any assignable date in the past, however early, there was already some tendency toward uniformity; and at any assignable date in the future there will be some slight aberra

[PEIRCE-L] The Basis of Synechism in Phaneroscopy

2023-04-15 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
especially perception. Applying such continuity in semeiotic and metaphysics facilitates gaining a better understanding of semiosis and objective idealism, leading to the plausible hypothesis of the reality of God. Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Double Cut Rule as Iteration/Deiteration

2023-03-29 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
none) or of denying if it be shaded or *oddly-enclosed*. It is a help to shade the oddly-enclosed areas and omit the lines that represent the cuts ... (R 670:16-17[15-16], 1911) Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christ

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Double Cut Rule as Iteration/Deiteration

2023-03-28 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
until October 2024. In other words, the three volumes are actually being published as five books, three of which can now be purchased. Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com

[PEIRCE-L] Double Cut Rule as Iteration/Deiteration

2023-03-27 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ntity that crosses an otherwise empty ring-shaped area may be iterated or deiterated along with the blank. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt _ _ _ _ _ _

Re: [PEIRCE-L] online talk: 3:30 EST 3/24 - Rocco Gangle, Logic from Scratch: A Philosophical Approach to C. S. Peirce’s Diagrammatic First-Order Logic

2023-03-23 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Just to clarify, since those of us in the United States are now observing Daylight Savings Time rather than Standard Time, is this event starting tomorrow at 3:30 PM EDT? At what time is it expected to end? Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher

[PEIRCE-L] Truth as Pragmatism's Only Hope

2022-11-28 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
relevant views ( https://erraticus.co/2022/11/28/truth-as-pragmatisms-only-hope/). As always, I welcome anyone's feedback. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Meaning theory versus semiotics

2022-09-23 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
er be confounded by any future experiences. In short, we strive to conform all our *dynamical *interpretants of signs to their *final *interpretants--with varying degrees of success, because we remain fallible and indeed operate with incomplete information. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] two kinds of vibration

2022-09-10 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
tence (2ns). Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 6:35 AM Helmut Raulien wrote: > Jon, List, > > Altough I see your explanation,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] two kinds of vibration

2022-09-09 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ers and laws of nature (for example) can be said to exist. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 4:06 PM Helmut Raulien wrote: > Jon,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] two kinds of vibration

2022-09-09 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
uot;*exist *in its strict philosophical sense of 'react with the other like things in the environment'" (CP 6.495, c. 1906), but they do "exist" in the *logical *sense of belonging to a universe of discourse, namely, what Peirce calls the First Universe of Experience (CP 6.455, EP 2:435, 1908).

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's "Proof" of Pragmatism

2022-09-09 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
of conduct to be recommended or in the general habits that must result from experiences (including perceptions) to be expected--not in those individual experiences (and perceptions) themselves, nor in individual mental acts of expecting them. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's "Proof" of Pragmatism

2022-09-08 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Peirce needed for #4-5 was "a > *Delta > *part [of Existential Graphs] in order to deal with modals" (RL 376, R > 500:2-3, 1911)--perhaps his 1909 Logic Notebook version using heavy lines > to denote possible states of things, which I outlined in May ( > https://list.

Re: [PEIRCE-L] two kinds of vibration

2022-09-08 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ir postmodern notion of each individual constructing his/her own reality is utterly incompatible with the very definition of reality--often invoked by Peirce--as that which is as it is regardless of what anyone thinks about it. Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, S

[PEIRCE-L] Peirce's "Proof" of Pragmatism

2022-09-06 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
peratives, which is presumably why Peirce proposed tinctures in 1906, but he abandoned them along with cuts in favor of simple shading for negation in 1911. Is there a viable alternative? Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Chri

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Fwd: Call for Abstracts | The Pragmatic Maxim

2022-09-01 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
l to follow his example and ethics of terminology (CP 2.219-226, EP 2:263-266, 1903) by adopting one of these distinctly philosophical alternatives. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitt

[PEIRCE-L] Peirce's First Complete Draft of "Pragmatism"

2022-08-31 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
after it was written--at about the same time as William James's book with the same name. Since it has obviously become quite familiar to me by now, I am interested in finding out and then discussing what (if anything) jumps out at others upon reading it, presumably for the very first time. Regards, Jon

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Any PEP Volume 7 Update

2022-08-15 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
's entire vast corpus of still-unpublished post-1892 writings available to those who lack the patience to wade through the online manuscript images. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twit

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Aw: meaning

2022-06-30 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
, the contrast between successive notes to 2ns, and the melody comprised of a series of such notes to 3ns (CP 5.395, EP 1:128-129, 1878). Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Evolving Interpretants

2022-06-13 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
List: My paper has now been published officially in *Semiotica*, volume 2022, issue 246, pp. 211-223. Regards, Jon S. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 1:43 PM Jon Alan Schmidt wrote: > List: > > The subject line is the title of my paper that has just been published > online by *Semio

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Semantics for Modal Logic and Delta EG

2022-06-11 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
between distinct facts that corresponds to a possibility, and thereby serves as the additional convention enabling Delta EG to express a strict implication that is and would be true of the AST and every PST, thus representing a law. Regards, Jon S. On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 1:36 PM Jon Alan S

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Modal Logic and Pragmaticism

2022-05-15 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
oll with an LoC attached to >the graphs in both closes vs. a scroll enclosed by a broken cut enclosed by >a solid cut. >- As Peirce shows with his last example, a single graph represents two >propositions being possibly true individually but not together >(incomp

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Modal Logic and Pragmaticism

2022-04-29 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
en, perhaps Pollock's "basic" system should instead be named P for him along with Parry, Peirce, and pragmaticism Regards, Jon S. On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 7:49 PM Jon Alan Schmidt wrote: > List: > > In a recent post ( > https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/arc/peirce-l/2022-04

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Formal Logics for a General Universe

2022-04-23 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
s://list.iupui.edu/sympa/arc/peirce-l/2022-04/msg9.html). Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:34 PM John F Sowa wrote: > J

[PEIRCE-L] Modal Logic and Pragmaticism

2022-04-21 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
e many different formal systems of modal logic is most appropriate for such reasoning. Perhaps that will be a subject for another post. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Formal Logics for a General Universe

2022-04-12 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ctual relation. It must reach, however vaguely, beyond this > geological epoch, beyond all bounds. He who would not sacrifice his own > soul to save the whole world, is, as it seems to me, illogical in all his > inferences, collectively. Logic is rooted in the social principle.”Martin &

[PEIRCE-L] Formal Logics for a General Universe

2022-04-09 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
G with appropriate adjustments, but what about triadic logic? Thanks in advance for sharing any thoughts about these questions that I have been pondering recently. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/Jon

[PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Evolving Interpretants

2022-03-21 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
elded by the sign itself, is the immediate interpretant that is *internal *to that sign. The final interpretant is absent from this passage because it is the *telos *or ideal aim of semiosis, and the phenomenon being discussed is a discrete event prescinded from that continuous process. Regards, Jon Alan

[PEIRCE-L] Cosmology of Mind and Matter (was "A necessary condition for proof of abioticsemiosis")

2021-11-24 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
ompletely under the domination of habit as to act with almost perfect regularity & to have lost its powers of forgetting & of learning" (R 936:3, no date). GR: For the principle of what is the equivalent of created ur-continuity reveals that nothing is truly independent of, if not lite

Re: [PEIRCE-L] "A necessary condition for proof of abioticsemiosis"

2021-11-23 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
te as repugnant to scientific logic as to common sense" and rejects it accordingly, despite acknowledging that there is much to be said for it. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.c

Re: [PEIRCE-L] "A necessary condition for proof of abioticsemiosis"

2021-11-22 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
we are brought to the more elevating theory of *idealism*" (R 936:3). "The one intelligible theory of the universe is that of objective idealism, that matter is effete mind, inveterate habits becoming physical laws" (CP 6.25, EP 1:293). Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas

Re: [PEIRCE-L] "A necessary condition for proof of abioticsemiosis"

2021-11-22 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
that another distinguishing feature of (degenerate) physicosemiosis is its *lack *of a final interpretant, since it is entirely a matter of efficient causation rather than involving final causation. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher

Re: [PEIRCE-L] "A necessary condition for proof of abioticsemiosis"

2021-11-21 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
efficiently causes S, and then S efficiently causes I, such that O causes I by causing S; for example, when three billiard balls impact each other sequentially. However, the interaction of the three correlates is reducible to those two *dyadic *relations rather than being a genuine *triadic *relation. Regard

Re: [PEIRCE-L] "A necessary condition for proof of abioticsemiosis"

2021-11-21 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
by the smoke. These admittedly mundane interpretants *do not* "depend on a living entity" in Champagne's restrictive sense, and thus meet his requirement to be legitimate instances of physicosemiosis Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philoso

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Speculative Grammar and Phaneroscopy (was Signs, Types, and Tokens)

2021-11-16 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
hibit the development of a comprehensive theory of interpretation in speculative rhetoric. It seems to me that this would *only *be a danger if I were requiring all dynamical interpretants to be further signs (3ns), but as outlined above, my approach fully recognizes that they can be and often are exert

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Speculative Grammar and Phaneroscopy (was Signs, Types, and Tokens)

2021-11-14 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
n trichotomies, which together result in 66 classes of signs. Where I think we agree is that this whole approach of classifying "individual" *signs *is less important than studying the continuous process of *semiosis*. However, I believe that a theory of interpretation--concerned with the relat

[PEIRCE-L] Speculative Grammar and Phaneroscopy (was Signs, Types, and Tokens)

2021-11-12 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
specific bearing do they have on the order of the last six trichotomies for sign classification? Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 11:28 AM

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Signs, Types, and Tokens

2021-11-12 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
) or an abducent (assurance of instinct) but cannot be a deducent (assurance of form). Again, this all generally makes sense to me, more so than any of the alternatives. Regards, Jon S. On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 7:33 PM Jon Alan Schmidt wrote: > Bernard, List: > > Thanks

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Signs, Types, and Tokens

2021-11-11 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
up a norm, or standard which ought to be conformed to. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 12:25 PM Bernard Morand wrote: > JAS, Vinic

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