Re: [Phono-L] My membership in the PhonoL list
I'm not so worried about the NSA as I am about the possible use for this - it seems benign, but what is the actual reason for this?The Internet Archive (IA) in Alexandria, Egypt is a recorded memory of the all the web pages on every website on the Internet since it started in 1996.http://www.bibalex.org/internetarchive/ia_en.aspx Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 21:42:41 -0400 From: bi...@ftldesign.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] My membership in the PhonoL list You don't think they already have everything regardless of the provider? On 4/26/2014 9:23 PM, Rich wrote: Great idea, makes it much easier for NSA/IRS/DHS/etc. to have your entire e-mail stream after it ages for 6 months. On 04/26/2014 03:39 PM, Bill Burns wrote: On 4/26/2014 3:46 PM, Darrell Lehman wrote: 78-L has been complaining all week about Bounces from Yahoo... related... ? Yahoo and AOL have tightened security after the recent spate of account hacks, and as a result have screwed up posts from those ISPs to almost all mailing lists. It's recommended to switch to Gmail. https://answers.syr.edu/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=31589104 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Why our hobby is completely incomprehensible to youth
Easy to imagine, Charlie...Curt Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 16:40:06 -0700 From: c.l.smith5...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Why our hobby is completely incomprehensible to youth Thanks Peter ! I wonder what their reactions would be with one of my tinfoil machines !! Charlie. -- On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 7:23 PM EDT Peter Fraser wrote: http://gizmodo.com/kids-reacting-to-an-old-cassette-walkman-is-wonderful-a-1562953596 Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Elite record files/folders (and casters?)
Here is a set of steel casters which look to be appropriate: http://www.ebay.com/itm/SALVAGED-METAL-CASTERS-WHEELS-Nice-Used-Patina-FURNITURE-CASTERS-Vintage-/161269042460 From: richard_ru...@hotmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:01:54 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Sonora Elite record files/folders (and casters?) I bought a Sonora Elite a few years back and have been slowly restoring it. One thing that was missing was the record-filing system -- all of the paper folders were gone (apparently the quality of the paper was not very good; I've seen a lot of Sonoras that were missing these), though the original metal rods that held them in place were still present. Lo and behold, later on I found another Sonora Elite with an unrestorable cabinet, from which I salvaged everything else -- reproducer, tone arm (in this case, a metal tone arm; the original has a wooden one), motor, motor board, crank, etc...and, yes, a complete set of record folders in excellent condition. I'd really like to install them, but I'm having a hard time figuring out the best way to go about this. Has anybody out there has to deal with this? Can anyone offer any guidance on this? The cabinet does have the vertical wooden slats -- seven of them, I believe. Also, my Sonora is missing its casters -- or, I should say, its original casters; someone replaced them with ugly plastic casters much later. I'd like to get a set on there. Will any age-appropriate metal casters do? How easy are they to find? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Restoration Products
Anyone needing restoration products should check this out... Walt Smith, the owner, is extremely knowledgeable and a phonograph collector, himself. http://furnituredoctor.net/products/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Interesting New Type of Crapophone
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Replica-Decorative-Royal-Phonograph-Faboulus-Vintage-Wooden-Gramophone-/221402789775?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item338ca2778f ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Columbia BKT 2/4 Gearing Info Needed
I recently purchased a Columbia BKT, which the previous owner said had an issue in 2 minute mode. What I discovered is that it has an issue in both 2 4 minute mode. In 4 min mode it starts out playing correctly, but by 1/3rd of the way through, it starts to skip a groove or two. I hadn't tried it in 2 min mode, until yesterday. When shifted into two minute mode, it does something completely strange... it runs the feedscrew backwards. Has anyone ever experienced this issue? I believe that someone has tried to adjust the 2/4 minute gearing and maybe disassembled it, then put something in backward... Is this possible? Does anyone have a picture or diagram of the correct configuration of the gearing? Thanks for any help... Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Columbia BKT 2/4 Gearing Info Needed
Thanks, Dan. I found those pics just a few minutes ago on that forum. The issue seems to be what position those two little gears should be in. Don't disassemble your machine to find out, as you may run into the same issue... If you can see what the correct positions seems to be, I would love to know. From: ediso...@verizon.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 20:44:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia BKT 2/4 Gearing Info Needed There are some pics of the gears on a BO machine here : http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2t=16088... I believe they would be the same on a BKT. I will check my 2/4 BK to be sure . - Original Message - From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:37 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia BKT 2/4 Gearing Info Needed |I recently purchased a Columbia BKT, which the previous owner said had an issue in 2 minute mode. What I discovered is that it has an issue in both 2 4 minute mode. In 4 min mode it starts out playing correctly, but by 1/3rd of the way through, it starts to skip a groove or two. I hadn't tried it in 2 min mode, until yesterday. When shifted into two minute mode, it does something completely strange... it runs the feedscrew backwards. Has anyone ever experienced this issue? I believe that someone has tried to adjust the 2/4 minute gearing and maybe disassembled it, then put something in backward... Is this possible? Does anyone have a picture or diagram of the correct configuration of the gearing? Thanks for any help... | Curt | ___ | Phono-L mailing list | http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Columbia BKT connecting arm needed...
I have the BKT connector which attaches to the reproducer, but I think I only need the U shaped tube. From: ediso...@verizon.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 20:20:16 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia BKT connecting arm needed... Do you need the U-shaped section common to the BKT and the BQ, or the special BKT-only connector? The BKT has both. - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia BKT connecting arm needed... | HI | You might check croaking frog on ebay | i thought i saw one on ebay recently | zono | | | | | | | | -Original Message- | From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com | To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org | Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 8:53 pm | Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia BKT connecting arm needed... | | | Does anyone have a Columbia BKT connecting arm for sale, that goes from the | tonearm to the reproducer?Curt Angstmanpuzzlerecords(at)outlook(dot)com | | ___ | Phono-L mailing list | http://phono-l.org | | | ___ | Phono-L mailing list | http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Columbia BKT connecting arm needed...
puzzlerecords(at)outlook(dot)com - My email if anyone has this part. From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 20:51:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia BKT connecting arm needed... I have the BKT connector which attaches to the reproducer, but I think I only need the U shaped tube. From: ediso...@verizon.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 20:20:16 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia BKT connecting arm needed... Do you need the U-shaped section common to the BKT and the BQ, or the special BKT-only connector? The BKT has both. - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia BKT connecting arm needed... | HI | You might check croaking frog on ebay | i thought i saw one on ebay recently | zono | | | | | | | | -Original Message- | From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com | To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org | Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 8:53 pm | Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia BKT connecting arm needed... | | | Does anyone have a Columbia BKT connecting arm for sale, that goes from the | tonearm to the reproducer?Curt Angstmanpuzzlerecords(at)outlook(dot)com | | ___ | Phono-L mailing list | http://phono-l.org | | | ___ | Phono-L mailing list | http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Columbia BKT connecting arm needed...
Does anyone have a Columbia BKT connecting arm for sale, that goes from the tonearm to the reproducer?Curt Angstmanpuzzlerecords(at)outlook(dot)com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor portables
Ron,They are just butted together... if you spread them, you can remove the handle From: lhera...@verizon.net To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 17:20:30 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor portables Do the D rings that hold the handles to the larger orthophonic portables have ends that are welded or soldered together or are they just butted together? Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] How Are You Phono-l?
Bill, The positives and negatives of raising electric eels is causing polarity issues among pet lovers... Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 06:18:26 -0700 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] How Are You Phono-l? Bill, I think a spammer hijacked your email address. Change your password and all will be well. From: Bill Hodges bhhod...@aol.com To: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:36 AM Subject: [Phono-L] How Are You Phono-l? http://mindsystemsgroup.com/wp-content/likeit.php?eurghmw283xr ... bhhod...@aol.com Raising pet electric eels is gaining a lot of current popularity. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Looking for Cut Cornered Decca Storage Album
Have you tried Howard Hope in the UK? Just Google his name and something should come up... Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:51:53 -0400 From: it...@arvincasas.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Looking for Cut Cornered Decca Storage Album Hello Phello Phono Pholk, I'm on the hunt for a rare Decca 78 storage album that is actually part of a Decca portable phonograph (perhaps I should say gramophone as this is a UK machine though it was bought in Virginia). These albums, like those made for the Columbia UK portables, were designed to store under the upper lids of their gramophones (see the attached photo of a Columbia Viva-tonal 202). The albums had their spines at the bottom of the book (rather than on the left) and had their top corners cut not to save on expense - but to allow fingers plenty of access to insert and pull the albums out from storage. They had a very interesting accordion-like design that reduced stress on the sleeves at the spine, allowing you to flip pages with less chance of snapping your shellac. (Save that for your Chiropractor.) Over the years many were separated from their machines, especially as these albums continued to find use in the electric age vs the rest of the machine.. That said, these are rare, so in addition to my investigations overseas, I thought I'd ask if anyone here might have a suggestion on where to find one in this country it at all? I suspect record buyers might come upon these more than machine buyers, but that's just a theory. If you happen to have one housing a stack of shellac or know someone who might have one, kindly drop me a line. Best to all, Arvin in MA -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: columbia_album_correct.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 68916 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20130829/9c71ed5b/attachment.jpg ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Berliner Records
Melissa,Are you selling any of the Berliners? From: zonophone2...@aol.com Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 05:14:41 -0400 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Berliner Records hopefully you got some consolidated records too you can cruise ebay to find some prices but looks like a good find In a message dated 8/29/2013 9:13:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vinyl.visi...@live.com writes: Melissa,Only 9714 came up for me... how many actual Berliner records did you get? Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:51:21 -0700 From: riccib...@yahoo.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Phono-L] Berliner Records Hello Again, Nick and I also won 54 early 7 inch Berliner, Victor, Zonophone, and Improved etched records at the auction. We know that some of these can be valuable and know a little about them but would love an expert opinion on the collection. Most of the records are Berliner Gramophone records with the etched titles. About half of them are signed by the artist who sang the song or conducted the band. There are some really nice titles like Yankee Doodle and Blue Bells of Scotland. We also have several etched Zonophone records, about 10 Improved records a few Victor without the dog and one Victor with the dog. Here are a few pics. We are interested in anything you can tell us. Thanks again! Melissa http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Records/DSC09714.jpg.html http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Records/DSC09713.jpg.html http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Records/DSC09712.jpg.html http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Records/DSC09711.jpg.html http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Records/DSC09710.jpg.html http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Records/DSC09709.jpg.html http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Records/DSC09708.jpg.html ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Mystery Phono! Vic 3 or Frankenphone?
Once you manage to get it off, you should wire brush the spindle and polish it if you have the equipment. The turntable hole can be cleaned with sandpaper rolled around a dowel, pencil, bolt or any long round object that will fit in there - a drill bit with sandpaper wrapped around it works too. As for the cabinet, it does look old, but the columns are not Victor type. So, depending on how much you paid for this, it might turn out well. Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:56:36 -0700 From: riccib...@yahoo.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Mystery Phono! Vic 3 or Frankenphone? Hi Andrew, Thank you for the advice! We have been in this position before with a Victor II turntable that was just terrible to remove! What a chore! We managed to get it off with our hands and the hammer trick but we felt the liquide wrench did very little to help even after soaking overnight twice. I am excited to try the product you suggest so maybe this time will be better. Thanks so much! Melissa -- On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 7:13 PM EDT Andrew Baron wrote: Regarding the turntable liberation, I've found that the product PB Blaster works much more effectively than Liquid Wrench or WD40. Any will stain the felt but might be cleaned with a solvent afterward. A soak over night can work wonders, and then the turntable should be leveraged upward by placing the fingers of each hand under the rim at 9 and 3 o'clock and exerting upward force. Based on the rust I see in the photos, this still might need more help, so WHILE exerting a firm and steady upward force with both hands (good thing there's two of you), give the top of the spindle a sharp tap with a hammer. It may take a few tries, but be sure that the penetrating oil has had a chance to do its job, and it's best to use a hard plastic mallet to avoid deforming the spindle top, or taking other precautions. Wedges can also be used in lieu of fingers, if applied simultaneously and exactly opposite each other -- beware that you can bend the spindle if you're not careful, even if using only your hands. Good luck. Andrew Baron Santa Fe On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote: Hi Harvey, Thanks for your insight! Nick is trying to get the turntable off as we speak to check for those extra holes. It is rusted on tight and it has been a long day today so we may wait til the weekend to actually get it off. He says he can see under the turntable and that there do not appear to be any extra holes just the three screws holding the motor on. Thanks again, Melissa From: harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Mystery Phono! Vic 3 or Frankenphone? From what I can see the parts are from a later Victor III. The cabinet looks old and original, but not to a Victor III. Did you take off the turn table to see if there were multiple holes in the motor board? If so, that would mean a swapped motor. If not, the cabinet can be new old stock that was modified by the original owner, a dealer, or a handyman. If there are no extra holes in the cabinet, I would strip and refinish it. It would be a very unique machine. Harvey Kravitz From: Melissa Ricci riccib...@yahoo.com To: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com phonol...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:34 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Mystery Phono! Vic 3 or Frankenphone? Hello Everyone, Last night, Nick an I won an interesting phonograph at a local junk auction. Someone has spray painted the entire cabinet gold...inside and out! The double spring motor looks to be from a Victor III, the turntable and the upper works appear to be from a Victor III and it came with a ID plate (tacked inside the cabinet) that indicates it is indeed a Victor III. It also came with a nice original wood horn. The problem is, we have never seen a Victor cabinet with this design before. After quite a bit of research, we found that the Vic III came in two cabinet types and neither of them match this one, not even close! We own a late style Victor III to compare it to and it is definitely not the same. Strange. The wood under the terrible gold paint looks old and the back bracket looks to be correct. So we need to find out, is this a Frankenphone made up of Victor III parts with a handmade cabinet or a cabinet from a different machine? I was unable to find any cabinets with the kind of moldings this one has. Here are a few links to pictures we just took. Any ideas are greatly appreciated! http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09701.jpg.html
Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742
I agree with everyone who has had a negative experience with antique shops... the odds are slim and none. Most antique shops call pickers who they know will immediately buy certain items, so the randomness of the find becomes very slight. Same with flea markets, unless you just stumble onto something by chance. I have been in a flea market on the very first day and searched known vendors for items of interest, only to find that on the last day of the market someone bought an unusual item from a vendor that I had searched two days before - the vendor held items back to show to a certain person, even though they were not already purchased by that person. That being said, I nominate Kinney Rorrer for my candidate of the collector with extremely good luck. Several years ago, he found a Victor 6 ornate horn machine cabinet in an antique shop for under $100, but his best find was in Greensboro, NC at a junk shop. He walked in and found an Auxetophone for I think, $135 - then the ow ner of the shop informed him that that item was on sale for 20% off... unbelievable. From: zonophone2...@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 14:25:04 -0400 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742 now tim i just bought my second rollmonica with two cranks and a killer columbia by in a local shop lol zono In a message dated 8/18/2013 10:30:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, phonop...@aol.com writes: From my own experience, stopping in antique shops can be more depressing than fruitful. In fact, I've pretty much given up, otherwise I'd have to take mega-doses of anti-depressants. The last time I actually found something in an antique shop was years, possibly decades ago. Of course, there are always the incidents such as John related which will fill the rest of us with resolve to stop at every antique shop, waiting for that 742 to appear -- but I prefer to enjoy my mental health and not trudge through aisles of discarded garage-sale glassware. I know that I may sound like a snob -- but in fact I'm too strongly affected by memory of what antique shops used to be in the distant past. What many seem to be now are repositories for what DIDN'T sell on eBay. Case in point --- My wife and I were visiting friends in coastal Maine, supposedly a good antiquing area. I was bored, so arranged with a pal to make a circuit of the antique shops in the area. Spent all day, and even attended a yearly antique show that was being held in a school gym. Many, many group shops, some individuals, but at least 20 shops were seen. The result --- ZILCH. Here's what I saw--- Gem Roller Organ (doesn't count, not a phonograph) Rollmonica (ditto) VV XI VV IX Run-of-the-mill Brunswick Diamond Disc C150 Some beat-up Diamond Discs Crapophone Box that once held a Jewel Phonoparts attachment So, I suppose the GOOD news is, me not stopping at antique shops means that everybody else gets all the good stuff I will be missing. I should say, in fairness, that my esteemed colleague Mr. Paul swears by stopping in shops and has found untold bounty in them. I guess somebody up there likes him! Best to all, Tim Fabrizio. -Original Message- From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:12 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742 I have had that happen as well, I think many of us have. You kept driving by the antique shop and something was trying to entice you in, but you didn't act on it, and then you found out something really special was there, but someone else ended up with it because you didn't stop when you should have. It is a sick feeling that does stay with you, especially every time you pass the shop again and again. - Original Message - From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:38:40 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742 You know what the worst thing is about this? He is from Orange County, which is a couple of hours away, but he found it in a shop ten miles from my house. A shop I have never been to, but meant to go to on Friday! I would have had that machine if I had only gone in there when I meant to!!! Makes me sick... John From: Tim Fabrizio phonop...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742 Well, all those Herzogs for cylinder machines used an internal horn, though few seem to have retained them. I like Ken's idea about replicating them! Best to all, Tim Fabrizio -Original Message- From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: phonolist phono-l@oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia tonearm assembly for Portable 150
Not sure, but that tonearm looks like the same that were used on backmount Columbia horn machines... Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 18:13:34 -0400 From: it...@arvincasas.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia tonearm assembly for Portable 150 Hello Phono-L Pholk, I'm looking for a tonearm assembly for a rare 1926 Columbia portable, model 150 (page 204 in the Columbia Phonograph Companion, Vol. II). I'm looking for the arm and mount but do not require a reproducer. Any leads would be appreciated. I don't recall how this list handles attachments, but I'll try to attach a photo of a 150 recently sold whole on eBay for reference. Many thanks! Arvin -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 150.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 320490 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20130818/7a0aca04/attachment.jpeg ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Link to Complete Blue Amberol Catalog Download
(Line 1) Rich, I noticed that after it got posted. (Line 2) When I typed the message, Enter started another line, just like this line is supposed to be.(Line 3) Don't know if its my browser - Chrome - or my email - Outlook.(Line 4) Curt(Line 5) www.carolinaphonosociety.com Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 22:43:14 -0500 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Link to Complete Blue Amberol Catalog Download The Enter is tagging onto your link so it breaks, needs a space between .com and Enter On 08/11/2013 10:10 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: The complete catalog can be downloaded from: www.carolinaphonosociety.comEnter the site and on the second page click on the PDF symbol to download it.If you run into any problems, please let me know.Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Complete List of Blue Amberols
The complete catalog can be downloaded from: www.carolinaphonosociety.comEnter the site and on the second page click on the PDF symbol to download it.If you run into any problems, please let me know.Curt From: zonophone2...@aol.com Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 06:09:23 -0400 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Complete List of Blue Amberols i second that In a message dated 8/8/2013 10:23:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pic...@gmail.com writes: How's about somebody posting it to a web page so all can enjoy it... ? Shawn ORourke wrote: If Dennis's doesn't work, i have a complete one in exel Shawn On Thursday, August 8, 2013, Terry Baer wrote: Hello. Does someone have a comple list of all Edison Blue Amberols including record number, title, and artist in MSWord or Excel or even TXT format that they could make available to me off-list? I do not want a PDF scan. Thanks, Terry St. Louis ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Link to Complete Blue Amberol Catalog Download
The complete catalog can be downloaded from: www.carolinaphonosociety.comEnter the site and on the second page click on the PDF symbol to download it.If you run into any problems, please let me know.Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Wanted Columbia BF feedscrew and rod
Don't know why that ran all together. victrola(at)triton(dot)net From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 21:28:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Wanted Columbia BF feedscrew and rod Check with: George Vollemavictrola(at)triton(dot)net I bought a couple of BF parts from him last year and he is likely to have what you need Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:46:26 +1200 From: slowp...@clear.net.nz To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Wanted Columbia BF feedscrew and rod Hi all, I am looking for a Columbia BF part, this is the rod with the feedscrew in it that the reproducer carridge travels along. All I want is the rod. Thanks! Cheers Mark Dawson. slowp...@clear.net.nz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Proposed Merger of MAPS and APS and successorpublication name
Any name probably beats Pumpkin Center Quarterly... ☺ From: b...@taney.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 17:06:47 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Proposed Merger of MAPS and APS and successorpublication name I agree, 'In The Groove' always seemed like a upbeat and positive name. It's not stuffy or too academic and conveys that it's about records, music and phonographs. Bill Sent from my iPad On Jul 11, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Melissa Ricci riccib...@yahoo.com wrote: Just my humble opinion, but I have always liked the name In the Groove and will be sorry to see it go if it is voted down. I also really like the current format and design of the publication. I hope that will not change. Melissa From: Peter Fraser pjfra...@mac.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Proposed Merger of MAPS and APS and successorpublication name If it's to be considered a new organization, I'd imagine it makes sense to give it a new name, let's say something like the American Antique Phonograph Society, just for talking purposes. Then it's a no-brainer to name the periodical The AAPS Journal. As others have said, keeping things simple is usually a good strategy. And you're not pointing the emphasis towards machines or records, if that matters - although the record people have their own clubs and journals, right? I guess the two phono clubs are mostly hardware related, but also naturally with coverage of the media we play on that hardware - but still coming from the machine standpoint overall. In The Groove was always sort of non-descriptive and hackneyed in my (likely insignificant) opinion, although I can see how it would have sentimental value for some. I used to belong to MAPS in order to receive it, but dropped out when its quality declined a few years back. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Jul 11, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Paul Christenzen pic...@gmail.com wrote: Disagree!!! Nothing wrong with a good cliche (IF it even is one), historically significant, recognized world-wide and makes a good acronym. Paul Christenzen, simple-minded collector Bruce wrote: OK, I'll step up to be the first person to disagree with Steve. When the improvements were being made to the former CAPS publication, The Sound Box, concurrent with the name change to the organization, we wanted a name for the publication that would speak to the stature of its quality. Names like The Sound Box seemed too much like a cliché that fell far short of the quality of the product. In the Groove as a publication name, regardless of its age, falls short as well. Bruce Peterson - former CAPS/APS president -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Melissa Ricci Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:26 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Proposed Merger of MAPS and APS and successorpublication name Well said, Steve! I agree 100% Melissa From: srsel...@aol.com srsel...@aol.com To: Phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:37 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Proposed Merger of MAPS and APS and successor publication name I am posting this to both Phonolist and Phono-L -- the two listserves I subscribe to. Those of you who belong to the Antique Phonograph Sovciety (formerly known as the Calif. APS) should have received a letter in the mail this week (or will shortly -- mine came yesterday) detailing the proposed merger of the APS with MAPS effective January 1, 2014, (I'm guessing MAPS members will get something soon.). I was told that there was a preliminary meeting of members held at the Union show lat month, though no mention was made in any reports of the show on either of these lists. So the mailing from CAPS was the first formal document I saw. As outlined in the letter, the two organizations are often serving the same group with 160 members (of MAPS' 607 and APS's 400 members belonging to both. Economically it makes sense because postage to mail each society's magazine/journal is the biggest cost. By combining memberships, there would be one dues and this might attract more members. (Side note here: Every person on these newsgroups should belong to at least one of these organizations to support the hobby.). The plan is to take the best of both magazines and combine into one. Currently APS's magazine focuses on pre-electric phonographs and and some recordings -- mostly pre-1910 -- while ITG (MAPs' magazine) covers recording
[Phono-L] Another eBay Deal of the Day...
RCA Victor Dog NIPPER 36 with Original Antique Phonograph“The items are in very good condition for the age of these antiques. The dog is missing some paint in both ears since has been kept original. The phonograph Works, come with severals needles, instructions and one original Long Play. Ítem belong to the owner for more than 60 years. Original 60 yr old Crap-O-Phone with matching original 60 yr old Crap-O-Nipper... ONLY $999.00 http://www.ebay.com/itm/RCA-Victor-Dog-NIPPER-36-with-Original-Antique-Phonograph/151065696983?rt=nc_trksid=p2047675.m1851_trkparms=aid ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison Beer Bottle Player
That is an interesting idea... From: lo...@oldcrank.com Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:21:22 -0700 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Beer Bottle Player Combining two of my hobbies :) http://www.electronicproducts.com/Analog_Mixed_Signal_ICs/Amplifiers/How_Beck_s_turned_an_ordinary_beer_bottle_into_a_phonograph.aspx Regards, Loran ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Phonoscope and Talking Machine World on line
Thanks... From: glast...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 09:43:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phonoscope and Talking Machine World on line Thanks Steve..great info. -Original Message- From: srsel...@aol.com Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:43 AM To: Phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Phonoscope and Talking Machine World on line Two more publications on line! _The Phonoscope : Hunting, Russell, [from old catalog] ed : Free Download Streaming : Internet Archive_ (http://archive.org/details/phonoscope13hunt) _Talking Machine World : Bill, Edward Lyman, 1862-1916 : Free Download Streaming : Internet Archive_ (http://archive.org/details/talkingmachinewo24bill) Thanks to a poster on 78-L Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part.
Arvin,I have bought numerous things on eBay from all over the world, with no real problems, except one. I didn't want to use PayPal and offered to send cash or a money order drawn on a reputable bank. I know eBay frowns on this practice, but I hate to have the seller pay more fees to use PayPal and I have sent cash to sellers in Germany, Australia, Great Britain, the USA and fortunately have not been ripped off by a seller. The seller acted like this one and said it sounded fishy... I said how could it be fishy if I send you cash or a money order and you wait until you get paid to send me the item - she said she didn't trust money orders. That being said, I am the one taking the risk - she gets paid cash or a money order and I am trusting that she would send the part. I understand that money orders can be forged, but not if she takes it to her bank, deposits it and waits 7-10 days for it to clear, which I had no problem with. What I finally figured out, was that she was not happy with the price it sold for and couldn't think of any other reason to back out... This may be your problem with this seller, since he refused your payment. He probably asked someone else about it and they advised him that he was selling it too cheap. Could this be your issue? Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 17:52:20 -0400 From: it...@arvincasas.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. I considered hosting a video on my website in a password protected directory but then I thought it's a long way to go to prove I exist. I fully understand not wanting to get ripped off because it's incredibly easy these days, but at some point you have to take that Indiana Jones leap of faith. What struck me as odd was that even a cleared check was not enough. YouTube ergo Sum. :) Part of me is just sad it's come to this. I've met some great phono pholk here and on other virtual meeting grounds and at no time did I really question who folks said they were (maybe some iffy advice, but not their existence!). That's why I was wondering If this odd little war story of mine has any corollary or precedence with the good fellows here. It's a bit more than just promising to mow your grumpy neighbor's lawn for a summer just to get a peek at his 78's, lol. C'est La Vie Arvin On 5/8/13 5:09 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid. He could always wait for the check to clear before sending the speaker. OTOH, I think you can post private video to Youtube. You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you know when he'd seen it. Then you could remove it, I would think. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part.
Since he was asking 4x and agreed to $5 less than your offer of 3x, it probably has to do with the price. However, since he wants a video of the part actually being used in your restoration, who knows? A lot of people are using radio speakers for iPod docks and he might want to make sure that you aren't one of those people... From: chuc...@all2easy.net To: rich-m...@octoxol.com; phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 18:30:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Well, all I know is that one dude in TX ordered some blanks from me, and paid using a U.S. Postal Service money order. I just presented it to the clerk at the post office and she handed me the money. Pretty slick, I thought! Chuck Original Message From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 19:44:38 -0500 The validity of Postal Money Orders can be verified by taking the serial numbers to the USPS and they will call the fraud unit and verify them. Postal Money Orders are real popular for forgery. On 05/08/2013 06:08 PM, chuck richards wrote: How about paying with a postal money order? Just go to the post office, have it made payable to the seller, purchase it, put it in an envelope and mail it to him. It's as good as cash. He can cash it right at his local post office. That way, it should not matter to him whether you exist or not. He gets his money and sends the part to you. Do you really exist or not? Wow!! Now I have heard them all!! Chuck Original Message From: pjfra...@mac.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 14:40:48 -0700 I'm of course baffled by this. In all my years of collecting, I've never encountered anyone who is the slightest bit strange, odd, paranoid, socially awkward, difficult, maladjusted, or otherwise different from the accepted mainstream. And I know none of the rest of you ever ever have, either. (I'm NOT winking. I must have something stuck in my eye.) -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On May 8, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid. He could always wait for the check to clear before sending the speaker. OTOH, I think you can post private video to Youtube. You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you know when he'd seen it. Then you could remove it, I would think. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part. Hi All, I have a weird question. In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond cutting a check? I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy on youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have. I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price. I tried to send him payment through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many fees) but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment. Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out saying the whole thing was fishy. This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm comfortable doing. (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.) Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too. Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part? Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on youtube? My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness. Just wondering what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd, weird, or otherwise. Best Wishes from Massachusetts! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list
Re: [Phono-L] And Now for a real reference find for Edison collectors!
Thanks, for the info Steve... From: srsel...@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 21:11:33 -0400 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] And Now for a real reference find for Edison collectors! This was posted on 78-L and it was certainly new to me. And I'm sure the rest of you will want to know about it. Someone has scanned all of Wendell Moore's reprints of the Edison Phonograph Monthly and put them on Archive.org as searchable documents. http://archive.org/search.php?query=edison%20phonograph%20monthly Now if someone would scan the ultra rare Voice of Victor mags, I'd really love that! Steve Ramm ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Who has THIS kind of money?
Who had the MultiPhone for sale, do you know? The only one that I have seen recently was Paul Baker's, which he brought to our March show in Charlotte. It was for sale for $150,000. The only other one I know of is in a house about 5-6 miles from here... and it's not in as good a condition as Paul Baker's. That being said, they are incredible machines, but definitely WAY out of my price range... From: srsel...@aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:08:13 -0400 To: Phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Who has THIS kind of money? I just heard that at Stanton's auction this weekend the Multiphone upright 24 cylinder phonograph sold for $77,000.00. Okay, it probably is neat to have but it sure is a lot of money! (oh yes there was a buyers premium too!). That's a year's take home pay a middle class white collar worker. Anyone on list go? How was attendance? Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Who has THIS kind of money?
Actually, Steve, the price is high but think of the high end Victor machines that sold for more than the average annual salary when they were new... it's all relative. Back in the early 1900's you could buy a hundred acre farm for the average price of a good quality phonograph or gramophone. From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:08:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Who has THIS kind of money? Who had the MultiPhone for sale, do you know? The only one that I have seen recently was Paul Baker's, which he brought to our March show in Charlotte. It was for sale for $150,000. The only other one I know of is in a house about 5-6 miles from here... and it's not in as good a condition as Paul Baker's. That being said, they are incredible machines, but definitely WAY out of my price range... From: srsel...@aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:08:13 -0400 To: Phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Who has THIS kind of money? I just heard that at Stanton's auction this weekend the Multiphone upright 24 cylinder phonograph sold for $77,000.00. Okay, it probably is neat to have but it sure is a lot of money! (oh yes there was a buyers premium too!). That's a year's take home pay a middle class white collar worker. Anyone on list go? How was attendance? Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] What kind of machine is this?
I had an inquiry from a lady in NC who has this machine... anyone have any ideas what it might be? -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Red Portable.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 2870470 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20130417/24d39f45/attachment.jpe ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Slamming Steve, was: Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block
Since I have no real idea of what the issue was/is with the hinge block, I can only say that trust is the real issue... I have sent Steve parts, that if they were to be lost or misplaced, they would definitely be a needle in a haystack to find and re-purchase. However, since I TRUST Steve to take care of them in a competent and professional matter, I have not worried. In fact, if my parts had been lost for whatever reason, I would still trust him that it was beyond his control, because of who he is. Who would offer to send the parts at no charge in this day and age, just to make up for some misunderstanding??? I have trusted a motor for my Fairy Phonograph lamp to a collector/electrician, who I know is making every effort to repair it - and, has he had it since last fall... some things take time. If he loses it, or misplaces it - I am screwed, but I 'TRUST him and he hasn't proved me wrong. But.. to make an issue over a hinge block is another issue in itself, as is a week of waiting... get over it, if it got lost it can easily be replaced and it wouldn't be Steve's fault. From: pjfra...@mac.com Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 21:03:23 -0700 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Slamming Steve, was: Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block Interesting. Just found a quote online, from someone we're getting to know better today, and which can also be applied to this unfortunate situation: This is indeed unfortunate. But everyone please remember that the people who do things such as this set up bad vibes for themselves in the universe. Sooner or later, those vibes catch up with them. People are ultimately and individually responsible for their deeds, and what ever they do in their lives sticks to them. -- Chuck Richards, from http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2t=12347 So according to your own philosophy, the universe will soon be pointing certain tools right back at you. Hope they're not too sharp. -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 24, 2013, at 6:49 PM, chuck richards chuc...@all2easy.net wrote: No slamming intended. Just using whatever means are available to resolve this. There are certain tools around, and sometimes they need to be used. Chuck Original Message From: kb...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:45:52 -0500 I just can't sit idle with a slam towards Steve. He is one of the nicest and most knowledgeable phonograph collector/historian that I have had the privilege to know. Ditto to George's comment below. Give him a break!!! Ken Brekke -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Paul Christenzen Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:12 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block ONE WEEK... come on - Steve's the most honest, reliableand able guy I've met in 40 years of collecting - sheesh...give the guy a chance to breathe before you try to embarrass him!! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Frustration with EBay Sellers - an update with a twist
Think you are sick and tired of eBay sellers and the frustration they cause?Apparently everyone is in the same boat: (CAUTION - Rated R for language)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uv5bxPnJzw ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Historical Recordings Preservation
Here are some inventive eBay sellers doing their part to help preserve historic recordings - why not send them a note and express your appreciation for their creative use of 78 records - while you are at it, I think I'll get my popcorn bowl made from a record out of the cupboard and sit back, while listening to my iPod. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-of-4-78-RPM-Record-Coasters-RCA-COLUMBIA-DECCA-ZONOPHONE-Vintage-Labels-/160990802490?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Berliner Gramophone only $350.00
That same guy sent me the $10,000 check too and guess what? He offered to give me $2,000 as a commission, if I sent his nephew in Mexico a wire transfer for $8,000... Since I found another Berliner on eBay for $500, I can't wait to send it to him, I'm heading out now to get it done... From: rpm...@aol.com Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 06:49:55 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Berliner Gramophone only $350.00 He sent me a cheque for $1 drawn on the Bank of the Wabash Far Away. It bounced, I wrote to him about it, and we have arranged for him to Meet Me Tonight in Dreamland. pc In a message dated 2/25/2013 7:09:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rkeu...@gmail.com writes: Sorry Dave, the guy in Nigeria is sending all his extra money to me. I already sent him $2000 for extra expenseshe-he-he ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] steam powered phonograph
Actually, this is not a new idea... Here is a gramophone powered by a stirling hot-air motor. This one is a Paillard “Maestrophone No. 205″ gramophone manufactured in Switzerland between 1910 and 1914. Also, Geoff Hudspith, UK inventor and steam enthusiast has built a steam powered gramophone to play records at the various steam fairs he attends. The following link will take you to the steam page, scroll down to the bottom of the page to see videos of both machines: http://lostbiro.com/blog/index.php?paged=2s=youtube From: pjfra...@mac.com Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:36:09 -0800 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] steam powered phonograph http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSiVWkk5zaQ Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Berliner Gramophone only $350.00
That same guy has offered to sell this Berliner many times before... could it be a SCAM??? (yes, it could/is) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:19:19 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Berliner Gramophone only $350.00 Here's another great eBay deal, get it before it is gone! Berliner trademark phonograph for only $350.00 Buy It Now! Ebay item 121072345171. Of course it is located in Lithuania, and also he only has 1 feedback rating John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Berliner Gramophone only $350.00
Dang... it's already sold From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Berliner Gramophone only $350.00 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:23:57 -0500 That same guy has offered to sell this Berliner many times before... could it be a SCAM??? (yes, it could/is) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:19:19 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Berliner Gramophone only $350.00 Here's another great eBay deal, get it before it is gone! Berliner trademark phonograph for only $350.00 Buy It Now! Ebay item 121072345171. Of course it is located in Lithuania, and also he only has 1 feedback rating John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Phonograph Show - Next Saturday - Charlotte, NC
We have sold over 60 dealer tables, which exceeded our expectations... this will be the best show ever. Make plans to visit us next week - after all, what would be a better way to spend a weekend? Visit our website for dealer information: www.carolinaphonosociety.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Sewing Machine Universal Motor Question
Hi Al,Thanks for the reply. That made me think back to my original search, which lead me to believe that a Willcox Gibbs sewing machine motor was a near match, however the cost of buying an original Wilcox Gibbs sewing machine just to rob the motor seemed to be prohibitive... Thanks to your post, I did a quick eBay search and found an original Willcox Gibbs motor by itself about to end and was able to purchase it for $85 plus shipping. So, I'm willing to take a chance on it working and if it doesn't, I'll just re-sell it. If it does work, then I have a backup in case I can't get my original motor working... I appreciate the offer to take a look at it and may take you up on that, it you have time. Thanks again, Curt - eMail me at: puzzlerecords(at)outlook(dot)com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: clockworkh...@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 22:30:47 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Sewing Machine Universal Motor Question Many great comments were made while I was away this weekend. As they say, one picture is worth a thousand words. Your motor is a sewing machine motor. I had assumed that the Ferrygraph used an induction motor. The sewing machine motor is common and can be found on eBay with some frequency. See eBay item #281066725702 for one similar and go to eBay to see all of the sewing machine motors they have constantly on auction. Just search under sewing machine motors until you see one like yours though it may take some time for the exact motor. See eBay #11014372434 for an example. Jim, et al., had the right tracks on the universal motor. An open field coil (1 of the usual 2) or open armature windings could cause the problem you have but bad brushes not making contact is the overwhelming reason for universal motor failure. You should disassemble the motor, put the armature into a latch chuck, and use an electric armature cleaning tool (never sandpaper) to bring the individual contacts on the commutator back to a nice copper shine. The brushes should have a solid contact on the commutator for ample current to flow. Their condition is of prime importance. High resistance here is diagnosed by no torque as you describe. The way the universal motor works in an Edison phonograph, Alva, or Edison Business Phonograph, Ediphone, is to have the AC directly across the motor and the induction of the iron and copper coils limits the AC current. For DC a series resistor, rheostat in some cases, is the current limiting component. Come to think of it, you could buy an Edison Ediphone motor on eBay and if it fit that would work for you. However, all that being said, I would hope you can get the original motor working. Look in the yellow pages for sewing machine repair and call around. If all else fails, contact me to see if I have time to look at the original motor. I love this list for the depth knowledge it has... I am always learning something... best wishes to all... Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Interesting Sharpener for Cactus / Thorn Needles
Google yen to dollar - in the first converter that comes up, type 3 into the yen box, which = $323.45 USD (delete the number one in the yen box before putting in 3) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:22:34 -0500 From: chris...@cox.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Interesting Sharpener for Cactus / Thorn Needles The yuan is Chinese, the yen is Japanese. The auction is from Japan. There are almost 94 yen to the dollar. Why are you insisting on yuan :-)? john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote: Not according to any currency converter online. I've tried 5 different ones and they all come out to over $4,800.00 for 30,000 yuan (yen). One US Dollar is approximately 6.25 yuan. John From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, February 17, 2013 5:56:35 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Interesting Sharpener for Cactus / Thorn Needles It's $323.45 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:14:31 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Interesting Sharpener for Cactus / Thorn Needles Looks new to me, especially with the blueprints underneath. And 30,000 yuan is $4,815 and change American. John From: Arvin Casas aca...@spamcop.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, February 17, 2013 12:43:05 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Interesting Sharpener for Cactus / Thorn Needles Hi All, I just spotted this interesting take on the rotary cactus/thorn needle sharpener. It's from the Yahoo Auctions section in Japan: http://page18.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w83786020 Just wondering if folks have seen this before? Is it new? A reproduction? Is it a kit? I don't speak Japanese so I have to rely on a google browser plug-in translation, which is probably terrible. It may be a little overkil, but I just like its presentation. I'm not at liberty to drop 30,000 yen though. Curioser and curioser, Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] It's not too late to register for our phono show...
It's not too late to register or make plans to attend our upcoming Phonograph Mechanical Music Show/Sale in Charlotte, NC. 40+ tables are already rented for our 3 day phonofest at Metrolina Tradeshow Expo. The official date is Saturday March 2nd, but dealers will be setting up on Friday and are able to sell the entire weekend - March 1st--3rd. Some of the dealers include: Nancy Fratti, Don Gfell, Charley Hummel, Gregg Cline, Mike Patilla, Jean-Paul Agnard, to name a few. You guys up in the Northeast need a break anyway and the Midwest isn't exactly heaven at this time of year... Join us for some fun, food and of course, entertaining fellowship with a bunch of OCD, eclectic collectors and dealers. :)☺ Carolina Antique Music Phonograph Show - visit our website for all the details: www.carolinaphonosociety.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question
Al,Thanks for the reply. As you noted, I have been advised that it was a short in the motor somewhere. The problem seems to be that this motor is wound for three different types of power - AC/DC and maybe 220. So, either the shops don't know what the problem is or they just don't want to mess with it... I'm tending toward the latter, since the guys I sent it to are very knowledgeable. There is a picture of the motor on our website: www.carolinaphonosociety.com A shortcut to the pic is: http://open1234.wix.com/camps-site/twilight-zone-2#!__fairy-phono-lampCurt To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: clockworkh...@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 04:01:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question Induction motors that lack torque can usually be traced to an open field coil or an open armature loop. A shorted turn will eat torque but the motor will let you know by getting hot. How about a photo of the motor? Most good motor shops can fix anything from fractional horsepower to 100 HP.Do you know of a fan collector in your area? I have repaired fan motors that lost power and have the same symptoms of your phonograph. These things are not rocket science. Best wishes, Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question
OK, if it is a universal motor... where would I find one? Are there any specs on universal motors - rpms, amps, hp, etc.? This motor is puzzling since it doesn't have an ID or any spec info. Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:04:15 -0600 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question That looks suspiciously like a universal motor, runs on AC or DC and various voltages from 63v to 240v with the aid of the resistor. On 02/15/2013 08:15 AM, Vinyl Visions wrote: I don't know if it's because I am using Google Chrome, but my posts get run together. If you copy that previous link, leave Curt off of the end. http://open1234.wix.com/camps-site/twilight-zone-2#!__fairy-phono-lamp From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:53:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question Al,Thanks for the reply. As you noted, I have been advised that it was a short in the motor somewhere. The problem seems to be that this motor is wound for three different types of power - AC/DC and maybe 220. So, either the shops don't know what the problem is or they just don't want to mess with it... I'm tending toward the latter, since the guys I sent it to are very knowledgeable. There is a picture of the motor on our website: www.carolinaphonosociety.com A shortcut to the pic is: http://open1234.wix.com/camps-site/twilight-zone-2#!__fairy-phono-lampCurt To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: clockworkh...@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 04:01:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question Induction motors that lack torque can usually be traced to an open field coil or an open armature loop. A shorted turn will eat torque but the motor will let you know by getting hot. How about a photo of the motor? Most good motor shops can fix anything from fractional horsepower to 100 HP.Do you know of a fan collector in your area? I have repaired fan motors that lost power and have the same symptoms of your phonograph. These things are not rocket science. Best wishes, Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question
Actually, I found a smaller version of this motor in an early home video projector. I would have bought it, but it was frozen... From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:27:06 -0500 OK, if it is a universal motor... where would I find one? Are there any specs on universal motors - rpms, amps, hp, etc.? This motor is puzzling since it doesn't have an ID or any spec info. Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:04:15 -0600 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question That looks suspiciously like a universal motor, runs on AC or DC and various voltages from 63v to 240v with the aid of the resistor. On 02/15/2013 08:15 AM, Vinyl Visions wrote: I don't know if it's because I am using Google Chrome, but my posts get run together. If you copy that previous link, leave Curt off of the end. http://open1234.wix.com/camps-site/twilight-zone-2#!__fairy-phono-lamp From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:53:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question Al,Thanks for the reply. As you noted, I have been advised that it was a short in the motor somewhere. The problem seems to be that this motor is wound for three different types of power - AC/DC and maybe 220. So, either the shops don't know what the problem is or they just don't want to mess with it... I'm tending toward the latter, since the guys I sent it to are very knowledgeable. There is a picture of the motor on our website: www.carolinaphonosociety.com A shortcut to the pic is: http://open1234.wix.com/camps-site/twilight-zone-2#!__fairy-phono-lampCurt To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: clockworkh...@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 04:01:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question Induction motors that lack torque can usually be traced to an open field coil or an open armature loop. A shorted turn will eat torque but the motor will let you know by getting hot. How about a photo of the motor? Most good motor shops can fix anything from fractional horsepower to 100 HP.Do you know of a fan collector in your area? I have repaired fan motors that lost power and have the same symptoms of your phonograph. These things are not rocket science. Best wishes, Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question
Jim Rich,Thanks for the info. My motor is definitely a Universal motor with carbon brushes. The brushes are in excellent shape and the armature runs true. The main problem I'm having is shorts, as opposed to opens. The motor runs until a load is applied, then you can basically shut it down with your fingers. The REAL problem that I have had is due to our geographical location - North Carolina. There are some very good motor shops, but they won't mess with a small problem motor that doesn't generate any return business. If you find a mom pop operation, they work whenever they get around to it... I left it with one place and the owner promised he would get to it in a week - two months later I went back to check and it was still sitting on his desk in the same place I left it. Another said he could rewind it, then quit his job. Another guy sent it to Michigan to someplace that was willing to work on it, but wanted $900 with no guarantees that they could fix it. As far as electrical engineers go, 99.9% of the population probably don't know what electrical engineers do for a living and they are not in abundance around here, except at the nuclear power plant. The guy who works on your motor may or may not have graduated high school and knows how to fix one or two common motors that are used commercially - give him a challenge and it ends right there. I am tired of being asked by people in motor shops - What are you going to use it for? or What's wrong with it? If I knew what was wrong and how to fix it, I wouldn't be asking them. What difference does it make what I'm going to use it for? I just want it to run... AND if I did explain that I wanted to use it in a lamp phonograph... you get the picture. Do I sound stressed? Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:50:01 -0600 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question Some of these motors have round brushes constructed from tightly rolled up brass screen. If this motor has that type of brush they are most likely dirty and oxidized. They are the first thing to check and they are cleaned by removing and soaking in carburetor cleaner. Do not sand them or the commutator surface. As to how to get them fixed you have to find some old retired person who has the time to fiddle with it and possibly make new parts. This will be someone who collects early electrical equipment and keeps it running. On 02/15/2013 03:15 PM, Jim Nichol wrote: If this is a Universal motor, it can be easily identified by having carbon brushes riding on a commutator. A Universal motor is really a DC motor that has been specially designed to also work on AC. Whereas an Induction motor is AC-only, and is an entirely different thing (no brushes). Any motor repair shop that knows anything about DC motors should be able to analyze a Universal motor. As a matter of fact, the first thing to check before getting it repaired is to see if the carbon brushes are worn down, and the springs that push them against the commutator are working. Often the brushes get stuck in their brush holder slots from carbon dust and grime, and are no longer making contact with the commutator. Freeing up the brushes so they slide easily will fix such a motor. A DC motor (and a Universal motor) have two sets of windings called FIELD windings and ARMATURE windings. The Field coils are stationary, and are often bolted to the inside of the motor frame. The Armature coils are wound onto the rotor. The brushes and commutator bars are used to connect the power source to the Armature (rotor) windings. It is possible for DC motors to be made in two configurations. The Field and Armature windings can be wired in parallel with each other, or they can be wired in series. Such DC motors are called either parallel or series wound. Universal motors are usually series wound. Series motors (unlike parallel) have huge torque at slow or stalled speeds, and very low torque at high speeds. This is because if the mechanical load stalls the motor, it slows down, which increases the current in the Armature. Because the Armature and Field are in series, they then BOTH get more current, more magnetism in BOTH Armature and Field, and thus more torque squared. This is great for home use, like drill motors, vacuum cleaners, and for phonographs with heavy tonearms. The slower it goes, the more torque is created to compensate. There are two drawbacks for series motors. At high speeds they have very low torque, and secondly, they can theoretically reach infinite speed if there is no mech an ic al load and fly apart. Some even have fans to provide a little load at high speeds. Jim Nichol On Feb 15, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Richrich-m...@octoxol.com wrote: He was advised that it was a short. You are correct that the correct condition condition
[Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question
I am at my wits end, trying to find someone who can rewind/fix a motor for my Fairy Phonograph Lamp. What I am considering as a temporary fix (not altering the original parts in any way) was to use a 78 rpm turntable motor from a jukebox. Does anyone know of a direct drive type motor that would handle the weight of a 12 steel turntable and the resulting drag from the acoustic reproducer and steel needle? I have been researching the original Fairy motor for over 8 months and cannot find anything about it regarding amps, hp and rpms - there is no tag on any of the three that I have looked at. I am restoring a second Fairy lamp that has the same motor problem as my first one - motor spins, but slows to a stop with any load. I have been told that the motor is a strange one since it is wound for three different types of power. Parts for these phonos are non-existent, thus the idea of using a strong jukebox turntable motor which is already running at 78 rpms. The original motor has a resistor to cut the power and uses a pulley - governor - worm screw to meshed gear transmission to run the turntable and the speed is controlled by a simple brake mechanism. Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question
Thanks for the info Greg. I have looked into Victor and Edison motors, but am somewhat limited by size constraints. The largest size width and length is approx. 6-6 1/2 and maybe 4 deep. I will try to find the others that you mentioned and see what size they are.Thanks again,Curt From: gbogan...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:58:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question There were a number of direct drive phono motors made back in the 78rpm days. The General Industries Flyer models are among the most common. Other ones that I can think of were used in Webster-Chicago players and changers. These motors date from the 1930s, up to WWII. They are 90 degree worm gear drives direct to the platter spindle. They are robust and would easily drive a platter under the drag of an acoustic reproducer. Most of them were originally used with the old horseshoe magnetic pickups that tracked at the same force as acoustic reproducers. Another option would be to use an induction disc motor from the late 1920s such as used by Victor and Edison (motor made by GE). These are also direct drive and pretty readily available from phono boneyard parts dealers. Greg Bogantz - Original Message - From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:23 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question I am at my wits end, trying to find someone who can rewind/fix a motor for my Fairy Phonograph Lamp. What I am considering as a temporary fix (not altering the original parts in any way) was to use a 78 rpm turntable motor from a jukebox. Does anyone know of a direct drive type motor that would handle the weight of a 12 steel turntable and the resulting drag from the acoustic reproducer and steel needle? I have been researching the original Fairy motor for over 8 months and cannot find anything about it regarding amps, hp and rpms - there is no tag on any of the three that I have looked at. I am restoring a second Fairy lamp that has the same motor problem as my first one - motor spins, but slows to a stop with any load. I have been told that the motor is a strange one since it is wound for three different types of power. Parts for these phonos are non-existent, thus the idea of using a strong jukebox turntable motor which is already running at 78 rpms. The original motor has a resistor to cut the power and uses a pulley - governor - worm screw to meshed gear transmission to run the turntable and the speed is controlled by a simple brake mechanism. Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] charley hummel
Yeah, it made us sound like cultish, obsessive, driven, eclectic people who just can't have too many phonographs, mechanical music things, records, or any items that are even remotely related to our main obsession - and that our job in life is to preserve these things for future generations... :) To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: zonophone2...@aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:58:10 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] charley hummel hi all i just got off the phone with charley and he had hoped the show would show how interesting phono collections and collectors are as usual it did not show us in my opinion in a positive manner as he had hoped it would oh well this will pass zono ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Charlie Hummel on TV
As far as I could tell, watching it on my iPad, it was still only a short segment and not much longer than the one viewable on the web. I don't think it was the entire thing. I talked to Charley yesterday and he said he would send me a copy to post on our website, when he obtains one - so, keep checking our site. His earlier video is already uploaded and available, along with Merle Sprintzen and her Little Wonders, Kinney Rorrer's PBS interview about Charlie Poole and others: www.carolinaphonosociety.com Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:06:14 -0500 From: rochr...@gmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charlie Hummel on TV It was only about 5 minutes long near the end of the show. They gave more time to the stupid, dorky host and the dead animal girl. Regards, Green Mountain Bill On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:45 AM, srsel...@aol.com wrote: The minute long one was the PREVIEW I posted last week. So... Charley (by the way Charley always spelled his name with a Y as long as I've known him (40+ years!) is only part of show. For those who saw it, how long is Charley's segment? Hoping it goes on web one day. I don't have a smart phone so can't watch it the way Perer did. BTW Happy Edison's Birthday today! S In a message dated 2/10/2013 1:45:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kb...@charter.net writes: Here is the link to the short segment with Charlie Hummel. It is only about a minute long. Hopefully I can find a link to the whole episode. Enjoy!!! http://science.discovery.com/tv-shows/science-channel-presents/videos/edison -shrine.htmhttp://science.discovery.com/tv-shows/science-channel-presents/videos/edison-shrine.htm ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org -- From The Hubbard House On the park in Rochester, Vermont where it's always 1929. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] I just found a Komodo Dragon in my Credenza!
Even though the story sounds like BS, the place looks like some collector's hoarding area that I know. However, his empty cabinets are full of snakes, so you can only look around in the winter... From: pjfra...@mac.com Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 16:09:58 -0800 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] I just found a Komodo Dragon in my Credenza! Drop what you're doing and check those cabinets, folks! http://gizmodo.com/5980332/tortoise-trapped-in-record-player-box-found-alive-after-30-years Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Advice Sought: cleaning, restoring, and preserving portable phono case material
Hi Arvin,It kind of depends on the condition of the material on your portable. I restored a Viva-Tonal last year that had been abused. The material had holes in it that were duct taped over and it was a challenge getting it back to presentable condition. If it just needs to be cleaned - no problem. Soap and water or spray on bathroom cleaner will get the grime off. If it has small tears or holes and is black in color, I found that liquid electrical tape (get it at Home Depot or Lowes in the electrical dept.) will fill and seal holes and tears and match pretty close to the original material. Mine was a problem, since it had padding under the covering and had large tears and cuts. For that, I cut off the material from the bottom and removed the padding leaving an inch or so around the edges, which I then glued down. I went to a fabric shop and got some similar material which I glued to some 3/16 plywood that I cut to the shape of the bottom of the case. Then, I screwed the mat erial covered plywood to the bottom and added some feet, which worked out pretty good. So, again, current condition is the key to what needs to be done to get it back to presentable. Some people may have been tempted to scrap mine, which looked really rough, but a little time and creativity brought it back to a state where it can be enjoyed and cosmetically it looks good. Being a Viva-Tonal makes it worth the time to restore it, since the sound quality is excellent...Curt Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 19:35:07 -0500 From: aca...@spamcop.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Advice Sought: cleaning, restoring, and preserving portable phono case material Hi All, How would you go about cleaning, restoring/repairing, and preserving the outer case material of a portable phonograph? I have just recently come by a U.K. Portable Columbia Viva-Tonal. I've heard of using water with a splash of Dawn to clean off grime, shoe polish to restore color, and then sometimes shellac / clear polyfinish as an additional seal (and to lock down loose, torn, and frayed fabric). Does that sound about right or are there more preferred alternatives? Thanks! Arvin ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Orthophonic Reproducer For Sale
Anybody need an excellent, unmolested, great sounding Orthophonic reproducer? Pot metal is in excellent condition, with no cracks, chips, shrinkage, etc. It has never been opened or messed with. I bought it for a machine that I intended to get, but it got away before I could get it... If you are interested, email me at: puzzlerecords(at)outlook(dot)com $100 plus $5 shipping in the US. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Orthophonic Reproducer For Sale
If you need to see what it's like, here is an eBay listing for one just like it:http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-Victor-Talking-Machine-Orthophonic-Reproducer-Pat-Dates-1910-1921-/251205960068?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a7d0ac184 From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:56:03 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] Orthophonic Reproducer For Sale Anybody need an excellent, unmolested, great sounding Orthophonic reproducer? Pot metal is in excellent condition, with no cracks, chips, shrinkage, etc. It has never been opened or messed with. I bought it for a machine that I intended to get, but it got away before I could get it... If you are interested, email me at: puzzlerecords(at)outlook(dot)com $100 plus $5 shipping in the US. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] March 2nd - Phonograph Show
I know we just finished a great show in Orlando, but if you get cabin fever in March, check out our show in Charlotte, NC. We have commitments from a number of great dealers from various spectrums of the mechanical music area. If you like phonographs, music boxes, radios, memorabilia, etc. you need to plan on coming. In addition, we are holding this show as part of the Metrolina Expo Antique Market, so even if you are looking for something else, you might find it here... If you would like a table to sell some extra stuff or just want to look around, it will be a great opportunity. Metrolina Expo generally attracts 3,000-5,000 buyers and numerous antique dealers. Also, you might enjoy visiting with our local collector community and have an opportunity to view some great collections. The show officially is held on Saturday, but dealers will be setting up and selling on Friday and have the opportunity to stay over for Sunday. One admission covers all three days - check out our website for details. www.carolinaphonosociety.com See you there,Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison Bearing
That explanation of machining sintered bronze is probably why Randy is better off doing what he started with, since he can do it at home without specialized equipment. From: gbogan...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:44:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Bearing It is important to note the difference between bronze bushings and sintered bronze bushings. The former require regular lubrication as does any other plain bearing. But the sintering process produces a material that is porous and will hold lubricant in its pores which significantly reduces the need for regular oiling. Here's a description of proper and improper machining of sintered bronze: http://www.lm-tarbell.com/machining_sintered_bronze.htm Such bushings have been used for electric motors for decades and are very dependable. To us old-timers, they were known as oilite bearings. Turns out, that is now the tradename of a company who furnishes such bearings: http://www.oilite.com/bearings.asp Greg Bogantz - Original Message - From: Randy Larson ra...@cityprayz.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Bearing Ronald Thanks so much for your input, I really appreciate it. The only reason I used stainless steel is that it would last longer. The oil in the bearing would sustain it.Bronze is such a soft metal but did not know about it's absorbency. That may possibly reduce any wear on the metal. I will try the bronze. Thanks! Also, any suggestions on what oil has worked best for you? I am going to try some teflon based oil, but they are harder to come by where I live. I do have an order for some and hope it will be here in a couple of weeks. Thanks again Randy On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: So why didn't you use something like sintered bronze for the bearing? It absorbs and holds oil. Ronald L'Herault Lab Supervisor, Biomaterials Division B.U. School of Dental Medicine 801 Albany Street S203 Roxbury, MA 02119 -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Randy Larson Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:48 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Bearing I want to thank everyone who expressed interest in the Edison bearing. I've received enough request that will keep me busy for several weeks. So I'm sorry I can't make the offer free anymore. One question is why make one in the first place? A collector once said to me years ago; one of the problems with an Edison motor is that there is steel on steel friction with only the oil you can externally place on it. That in itself initiated the wheels spinning. I wondered if I could improve it. This bearing provides a continuous feed of oil to the bearing and reduce the constant need to oil it externally. Maybe it's crazy and won't make a difference. But I'm sending it out to several individuals to test it and see if it is an improvement. Or maybe it's because I'm too lazy to oil the motor as required! In 1963, I received my fathers Brunswick he played as a child. I was thrilled with it and began my enthusiasm for collecting, He would take me all over the city as I scoured for any old unit. In 1964, he paid $60 for my first Edison Standard (of which he only made $75 a week). I was stunned that he would make such a sacrifice for me. What is interesting is that he worked for Alcoa Aluminum. He was an avid inventor and came up with several improvements for the machines he operated. He was even recognized for several awards (unfortunately nothing financially). He passed away in 2011 at the age of 91 He was my best friend, hero and my inspiration. And we both admired Edison! Maybe a long explanation of why, but there it is. Best Regards Randy Larson ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison and anti-semitism
Honestly, growing up in western Michigan, even as a white male I felt somewhat oppressed by the very nature of the clannish ethnic groups. It didn't matter if you were white, what mattered was whether you were Polish or Dutch. For example, the Dutch had bumper stickers that said If you're not Dutch, you're not much. Talk about discrimination... you couldn't buy a house in Zeeland, Michigan without going through an interview with a Dutch realtor - there were no For Sale/Rent signs in Zeeland, even though houses were obviously available. If your last name didn't end with a ski or other Polish ending you weren't accepted on the west side of Grand Rapids and the blacks were all located in their own section of town, because to avoid the busing and integration laws each small community that made up the total of Grand Rapids proper, incorporated into their own small towns. Benton Harbor, Michigan is a prime example: in the 1950's it was predominately white, but in the 60's a nd 70's as blacks moved in - whites moved out across the river to St Joseph... the last time I was there, Benton Harbor was referred to as Benton Harlem and St Joseph was almost totally white. From: rpm...@aol.com Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:44:50 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Edison and anti-semitism Given when he was born, where he lived, and his own ethnic and cultural group, I would be surprised if he were either more or less anti-semitic than others in the United States who weren't themselves Jewish. It wasn't remarkable for a Christian home owner to want to sell his home to another Christian; for a Christian employer to want a Christian employee. What we have here, I think, is a kind of social distance felt by one social and cultural group from another. In my own lifetime, newspaper advertisements for houses for sale or apartments to rent in New York City included clues in their texts about who they wanted, e.g. --- churches nearby --- carrying with it an implication of who they *did not* want. Edison was a man of his time, place, and background. paul charosh ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Little Known Facts About Edison :)
Google: was Thomas Edison anti semitichttp://www.nndb.com/people/333/22267/ Like his friend Henry Ford, Edison was virulently anti-Semitic and blamed Jews for all of the world's major problems. This quote is according to the above website, which is a bio of TAE. It certainly isn't surprising, since Jews were not popular at that time (or now for that matter) in the US and the rest of the world - not just Germany. That's why a boat full of Jewish emigrants escaping from Nazi Germany and the holocaust of WWII were turned away by the US and other countries, even though it cost them their lives to return. Just saying Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:33:51 -0500 From: chris...@cox.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Known Facts About Edison :) If you google edison antisemite you will come across an astonishing and lengthy screed about how the Jews created Hollywood so they could peddle filth and undermine Christian morals. It begins with the struggle of Jews to wrest filmmaking away from the Edison Trust, and strays into communism, socialism, Disney, unions, Unamerican Activities, and Howard Hughes. I didn't follow any of the other google links, having reeled away from the computer after reading that paranoid dump from which it is impossible to sift any kernels of truth. But to get back to some useful information about Edison, he didn't invent the light bulb. He did make it practical in many ways, from developing a thin carbon filament with high electrical resistance to devising all the other elements of a complete electrical system: generators, wiring, conduits, switches and cutouts, means of measuring electricity consumed, etc. He was an astonishing businessman. The most money he made came not from the light bulb, the phonograph, or telegraphy -- it came from his alkaline batteries, which made electric cars practicable. He dabbled in cement and designed houses and furniture molded out of cement. His last project was to synthesize rubber (from goldenrod) -- not a great success. Cheers, Chris ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Little Known Facts About Edison :)
Good observations. Actually, I am in agreement with you, as I found no sources to support their (NNDB) statements, either. That being said, I posted this to make a point: you CAN find anything on the internet to support ANY view that you choose to take. And, since it is posted by who knows who - you can't necessarily trust it - any more than the 24 hr news that bombards us everyday. Personally, I drive a Ford and own Edison machines, but I couldn't care less what political views either Henry Ford or Thomas Edison had, as I do not look up to either of them as perfect human role models - everyone has flaws. Neither of them took their views to the extreme and forced them on the entire population of a country or tried to annihilate an entire ethnic group - so that may be a positive, compared to other world leaders of the time. I don't agree with those views and wouldn't support them, but Ford and Edison both contributed more positive changes than negative and I couldn't do anything to change their negatives anyway, even if they were with us now. Truth is, you can only change your own negative attit udes, but you have to be aware of them. Every one of us has some built in stereotypes and judgments, relating to ethnic groups that we are not familiar with and that is just human nature. So, whenever I hear someone refer to another as racist, anti-semitic, anti-christian, anti-muslim, anti-mormon, anti-whatever, I take it with a grain of salt - unless that person is in a position to influence others on a large scale. Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 09:35:01 -0800 From: back...@yahoo.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Known Facts About Edison :) Google: was Thomas Edison anti semitichttp://www.nndb.com/people/333/22267/ Like his friend Henry Ford, Edison was virulently anti-Semitic and blamed Jews for all of the world's major problems. Not meaning to start an argument, but if you Google something, anything, you most definitely will find it. In the case of the he NNDBthis is a site that gives NO explanation of it's sources. It is in many cases actually slanted. In other words, distorted, and or far from objective. That being stated, for this reason I do not believe the NNDB when they say Edison an anti-Semite. Dennis --- On Sat, 1/26/13, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Known Facts About Edison :) To: phono-l@oldcrank.org phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Saturday, January 26, 2013, 11:24 AM Google: was Thomas Edison anti semitichttp://www.nndb.com/people/333/22267/ Like his friend Henry Ford, Edison was virulently anti-Semitic and blamed Jews for all of the world's major problems. This quote is according to the above website, which is a bio of TAE. It certainly isn't surprising, since Jews were not popular at that time (or now for that matter) in the US and the rest of the world - not just Germany. That's why a boat full of Jewish emigrants escaping from Nazi Germany and the holocaust of WWII were turned away by the US and other countries, even though it cost them their lives to return. Just saying Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:33:51 -0500 From: chris...@cox.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Known Facts About Edison :) If you google edison antisemite you will come across an astonishing and lengthy screed about how the Jews created Hollywood so they could peddle filth and undermine Christian morals. It begins with the struggle of Jews to wrest filmmaking away from the Edison Trust, and strays into communism, socialism, Disney, unions, Unamerican Activities, and Howard Hughes. I didn't follow any of the other google links, having reeled away from the computer after reading that paranoid dump from which it is impossible to sift any kernels of truth. But to get back to some useful information about Edison, he didn't invent the light bulb. He did make it practical in many ways, from developing a thin carbon filament with high electrical resistance to devising all the other elements of a complete electrical system: generators, wiring, conduits, switches and cutouts, means of measuring electricity consumed, etc. He was an astonishing businessman. The most money he made came not from the light bulb, the phonograph, or telegraphy -- it came from his alkaline batteries, which made electric cars practicable. He dabbled in cement and designed houses and furniture molded out of cement. His last project was to synthesize rubber (from goldenrod) -- not a great success. Cheers, Chris ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Here's the Business Week Article on HMV that found
Steve,That link doesn't work... here is the correct one:http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-24/hmvs-brand-including-dog-mascot-nipper-may-live-on?track=sticky From: srsel...@aol.com Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:37:51 -0500 To: Phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Here's the Business Week Article on HMV that found It's up now! _HMV's Brand, Including Dog Mascot Nipper, May Live On - Businessweek_ (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-24/hmvs-brand-including-dog-mascot -nipper-may-live-on) Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn Opinion
These are from Lima, Peru and I believe they are made by the same guy who makes Victor six cabinets, columns, capitals, etc. - so good you can't tell the difference, especially in 10-20 years, when the finish ages. Judging by the quality of the horn in the pic, it will probably have a negative effect on the price of a good quality original Edison... I know that I wouldn't pay big bucks for one, when I can get one that looks just as good for this price. This is part of the same problem that devalued Vogue Picture discs, not just eBay, but when a company like Bear records in Germany reproduces Vogues and they look the same (except for a black edge) it devalues the originals. It's all about supply and demand - if someone provides an adequate supply, demand and price decrease... Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:58:58 -0600 From: b...@taney.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn Opinion Anyone have an opinion on these horns or know the origin? http://www.ebay.com/itm/STUNNING-REPRODUCTION-MAHOGANY-WOOD-CYGNET-HORN-EDI SON-OPERA-PHONOGRAPH-/28100366?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4170375b9 e Bill On 1/25/13 9:17 AM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Hi Mike, It is for a friend, Kirk, so I am forwarding your e-mail to him. Thanks, Ronald L'Herault Lab Supervisor, Biomaterials Division B.U. School of Dental Medicine 801 Albany Street S203 Roxbury, MA 02119 -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Mike Tucker Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:17 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Eclipse governor Ron, What exactly do you need? The whole offset governor, the governor assembly with shaft or the governor assembly without shaft? The governor is a two ball type and uses the normal Edison governor disc and small end, but with two holes instead of 3 or 4. A 3 can be adjusted to suit and the governor springs are standard Edison springs as per Standards etc. Mike Tucker On 25/01/2013 2:32 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote: A good friend of mine needs a governor for an Eclipse. Did any other Edison machines use this same governor? Anyone got one? Thanks, Ron L'Herault ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn Opinion
I would say similar, only because of the photo - I haven't seen one in person - photo looks great and the comment from another buyer seemed to say the same thing. I did see the Vic six case, though, and it was exceptionally well made - if it came from the same guy. It came from somewhere in South America and was at a show several years ago, unfinished top quality mahogany. I think I have seen listings from this same guy in Peru regarding cases and other horns. Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:41:17 -0600 From: b...@taney.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn Opinion Are these similar to the Gfell horns? Any opinion on the quality, authenticity of one vs the other? I am seriously tempted to buy this horn, I think it would look great on my opera. I have a nice opera with an original horn that the previous owner a mediocre restoration job and now it is coming apart again. Bill On 1/25/13 2:18 PM, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: These are from Lima, Peru and I believe they are made by the same guy who makes Victor six cabinets, columns, capitals, etc. - so good you can't tell the difference, especially in 10-20 years, when the finish ages. Judging by the quality of the horn in the pic, it will probably have a negative effect on the price of a good quality original Edison... I know that I wouldn't pay big bucks for one, when I can get one that looks just as good for this price. This is part of the same problem that devalued Vogue Picture discs, not just eBay, but when a company like Bear records in Germany reproduces Vogues and they look the same (except for a black edge) it devalues the originals. It's all about supply and demand - if someone provides an adequate supply, demand and price decrease... Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:58:58 -0600 From: b...@taney.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn Opinion Anyone have an opinion on these horns or know the origin? http://www.ebay.com/itm/STUNNING-REPRODUCTION-MAHOGANY-WOOD-CYGNET-HORN-E DI SON-OPERA-PHONOGRAPH-/28100366?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4170375 b9 e Bill On 1/25/13 9:17 AM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Hi Mike, It is for a friend, Kirk, so I am forwarding your e-mail to him. Thanks, Ronald L'Herault Lab Supervisor, Biomaterials Division B.U. School of Dental Medicine 801 Albany Street S203 Roxbury, MA 02119 -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Mike Tucker Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:17 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Eclipse governor Ron, What exactly do you need? The whole offset governor, the governor assembly with shaft or the governor assembly without shaft? The governor is a two ball type and uses the normal Edison governor disc and small end, but with two holes instead of 3 or 4. A 3 can be adjusted to suit and the governor springs are standard Edison springs as per Standards etc. Mike Tucker On 25/01/2013 2:32 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote: A good friend of mine needs a governor for an Eclipse. Did any other Edison machines use this same governor? Anyone got one? Thanks, Ron L'Herault ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn Opinion
Yes, this is the same guy from Peru who makes Victor VI cabinets, horns and Victor VI record cabinets. Just scroll down his listing to the bottom and you will see pics of his other offerings - fabulous... http://www.ebay.com/itm/28100366?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D28100366%26_rdc%3D1 From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:19:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn Opinion Eduardo in Peru, his work is excellent. Write him, he answers. From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:53:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn Opinion I would say similar, only because of the photo - I haven't seen one in person - photo looks great and the comment from another buyer seemed to say the same thing. I did see the Vic six case, though, and it was exceptionally well made - if it came from the same guy. It came from somewhere in South America and was at a show several years ago, unfinished top quality mahogany. I think I have seen listings from this same guy in Peru regarding cases and other horns. Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:41:17 -0600 From: b...@taney.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn Opinion Are these similar to the Gfell horns? Any opinion on the quality, authenticity of one vs the other? I am seriously tempted to buy this horn, I think it would look great on my opera. I have a nice opera with an original horn that the previous owner a mediocre restoration job and now it is coming apart again. Bill On 1/25/13 2:18 PM, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: These are from Lima, Peru and I believe they are made by the same guy who makes Victor six cabinets, columns, capitals, etc. - so good you can't tell the difference, especially in 10-20 years, when the finish ages. Judging by the quality of the horn in the pic, it will probably have a negative effect on the price of a good quality original Edison... I know that I wouldn't pay big bucks for one, when I can get one that looks just as good for this price. This is part of the same problem that devalued Vogue Picture discs, not just eBay, but when a company like Bear records in Germany reproduces Vogues and they look the same (except for a black edge) it devalues the originals. It's all about supply and demand - if someone provides an adequate supply, demand and price decrease... Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:58:58 -0600 From: b...@taney.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn Opinion Anyone have an opinion on these horns or know the origin? http://www.ebay.com/itm/STUNNING-REPRODUCTION-MAHOGANY-WOOD-CYGNET-HORN-E DI SON-OPERA-PHONOGRAPH-/28100366?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4170375 b9 e Bill On 1/25/13 9:17 AM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: Hi Mike, It is for a friend, Kirk, so I am forwarding your e-mail to him. Thanks, Ronald L'Herault Lab Supervisor, Biomaterials Division B.U. School of Dental Medicine 801 Albany Street S203 Roxbury, MA 02119 -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Mike Tucker Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:17 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Eclipse governor Ron, What exactly do you need? The whole offset governor, the governor assembly with shaft or the governor assembly without shaft? The governor is a two ball type and uses the normal Edison governor disc and small end, but with two holes instead of 3 or 4. A 3 can be adjusted to suit and the governor springs are standard Edison springs as per Standards etc. Mike Tucker On 25/01/2013 2:32 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote: A good friend of mine needs a governor for an Eclipse. Did any other Edison machines use this same governor? Anyone got one? Thanks, Ron L'Herault ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Little Known Facts About Edison :)
You might not want to mention the elephant execution either... Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:01:46 -0700 From: abefed...@gmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Known Facts About Edison :) Just make sure that you don't teach them everything about Edison, he was very hard on employees and paid a low working wage and fired most who disagreed with him. He had a strange view-almost myopic view about art, the people that produced it and music. If it didn't fit his view or like he simply dismissed it as inferior. And just like his good friend Henry Ford he was very anti-Semitic. Both men are viewed as great and in many cases they were-both both had some major flaws. Abe Feder On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Melissa Ricci riccib...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Everybody, As many of you know, I am a middle school music/band teacher and I always run a unit about Edison and the phonograph. We always end the unit by recording on a wax cylinder. For the first time in many years, I am teaching two 6th grade general music classes along with my band classes this year. Today was the first time I approached the topic of Thomas A. Edison. To see where the class was with their present knowledge of Edison, I broke the kids into groups and asked them to write down everything they knew or thought they knew about him. Here is what the majority of the class wrote down: 1. Edison was the 2nd, 3rd or 16th president of the United States. We're not sure which.2. Edison was originally from England.3. Edison's face is on the $20.00 bill.4. Edison was a male.5. Edison probably had a wife and might have had children.6. Edison died a very long, long, long time ago.7. Edison helped to write the constitution.8. Edison had very long, wild hair.9. Edison was very old. One student surprised me by writing that Edison invented the first talking doll. I was amazed so I asked her where she had learned that information. It turns our that it was on a recent episode of a TV show called Oddities. Who says TV can't teach! Obviously, I plan on starting at the very beginning of Edison's life and of course his many inventions of which not even the light bulb was mentioned. If any of you have any words of wisdom or little known/especially interesting facts about Edison, please let me know. I plan on going pretty in depth with these kids so anything I can learn will only help me capture their interest and put these misconceptions to rest once and for all. Thanks!Melissa ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] ice records
Chocolate Records:Stohlwerck Records - 1903http://www.edisontinfoil.com/stollwercks.htmhttp://www.montanaphonograph.com/gallery/stollwercks.html Chocolate Record 2011 - Scotlandhttp://www.thekitchn.com/video-a-chocolate-record-that-150863 Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:42:59 +0100 From: phonol...@cylinder.de To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] ice records The band Shout Out Louds has recently presented a fancy box set to make an ice record: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeGDhEXZJJs However, the first appearance of such a thing that I am aware of dates way back to the late 1980's/early 90's when Peter Lardong made his chocolate records and also successfully experimented with records made from ice. So, it's anything but a new idea (Russian TV report): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C593v-1KP8k On 15.01.2013 20:48, ger wrote: anyone see the news where records were made from ice? One-time play flat records. I think it was Scandinavia (not sure), done on a bet I believe. -Original Message- From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 3:00 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 10, Issue 13 Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to phono-l@oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org -- Sent from my Thunderbird OpenSource Mail Client ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] ice records
Wouldn't work very well for Red Hot Jazz, would they? :) From: ge...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:48:27 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] ice records anyone see the news where records were made from ice? One-time play flat records. I think it was Scandinavia (not sure), done on a bet I believe. -Original Message- From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 3:00 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 10, Issue 13 Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to phono-l@oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Who Snagged All 4 Puzzle Records on eBay?
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Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay...
Steve,A true puzzle record is one that is recorded with multiple concentric grooves. These records look like normal 78s, except when you play them, you don't know what selection you will get - usually three to five different choices per side. Put the needle down - you might get an instrumental song - put it down again and you might get a chorus, etc. On the horse race records, you have a possibility of five different winners each time you play... these are very rare and strange records. You could easily overlook one in a pile of common 78s. Hope this clears it up.Curt From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 08:31:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay... Hello Curt, I did not know there were two types of puzzle records, sound and jigsaw. Steve Yes, it's a Victor ad puzzle, which looks like a record. It's a little too pricey for me, but they are hard to find as a complete puzzle... ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay...
Anybody looking for a rare Victor puzzle record? It plays three different selections on the same side...http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... SS:US:1123 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay...
Hi Steve,Yes, that is the correct link. This particular record is a very good one, since it features Al Bowlly and is an upbeat 20's style.Curt From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:45:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay... http://www.ebay.com/itm/390518452234 This is not the one, eventually the good link for it will come through. Curt, do you have this one above? Steve From: phonost...@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:18:54 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay... Were you referring to this mystery puzzle record? _http://www.ebay.com/itm/78-RPM-RARE-MYSTERY-PUZZLE-MULTI-GROVE-RECORD-ON-VI CTOR-22745-MUST-SEE-EE-/390518452234?pt=Music_on_Vinylhash=item5aecb6b00a_ (http://www.ebay.com/itm/78-RPM-RARE-MYSTERY-PUZZLE-MULTI-GROVE-RECORD-ON-VI CTOR-22745-MUST-SEE-EE-/390518452234?pt=Music_on_Vinylhash=item5aecb6b00a) In a message dated 12/28/2012 2:08:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, vinyl.visi...@live.com writes: Anybody looking for a rare Victor puzzle record? It plays three different selections on the same side...http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... SS:US:1123 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay...
Two more that are particularly hard to find - both are horse race/lucky 13 gaming records. The second one is unusual since it has the original gaming boards are included - very rare... eBay Numbers: 251204844348 / 251204844261 From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay... Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:22:53 -0500 Hi Steve,Yes, that is the correct link. This particular record is a very good one, since it features Al Bowlly and is an upbeat 20's style.Curt From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:45:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay... http://www.ebay.com/itm/390518452234 This is not the one, eventually the good link for it will come through. Curt, do you have this one above? Steve From: phonost...@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:18:54 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay... Were you referring to this mystery puzzle record? _http://www.ebay.com/itm/78-RPM-RARE-MYSTERY-PUZZLE-MULTI-GROVE-RECORD-ON-VI CTOR-22745-MUST-SEE-EE-/390518452234?pt=Music_on_Vinylhash=item5aecb6b00a_ (http://www.ebay.com/itm/78-RPM-RARE-MYSTERY-PUZZLE-MULTI-GROVE-RECORD-ON-VI CTOR-22745-MUST-SEE-EE-/390518452234?pt=Music_on_Vinylhash=item5aecb6b00a) In a message dated 12/28/2012 2:08:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, vinyl.visi...@live.com writes: Anybody looking for a rare Victor puzzle record? It plays three different selections on the same side...http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... SS:US:1123 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay...
Yes, it's a Victor ad puzzle, which looks like a record. It's a little too pricey for me, but they are hard to find as a complete puzzle... From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:39:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay... Hello Curt, Did you see the record that was actually a round jigsaw puzzle? Steve From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:22:53 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay... Hi Steve,Yes, that is the correct link. This particular record is a very good one, since it features Al Bowlly and is an upbeat 20's style.Curt From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:45:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay... http://www.ebay.com/itm/390518452234 This is not the one, eventually the good link for it will come through. Curt, do you have this one above? Steve From: phonost...@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:18:54 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay... Were you referring to this mystery puzzle record? _http://www.ebay.com/itm/78-RPM-RARE-MYSTERY-PUZZLE-MULTI-GROVE-RECORD-ON-VI CTOR-22745-MUST-SEE-EE-/390518452234?pt=Music_on_Vinylhash=item5aecb6b00a_ (http://www.ebay.com/itm/78-RPM-RARE-MYSTERY-PUZZLE-MULTI-GROVE-RECORD-ON-VI CTOR-22745-MUST-SEE-EE-/390518452234?pt=Music_on_Vinylhash=item5aecb6b00a) In a message dated 12/28/2012 2:08:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, vinyl.visi...@live.com writes: Anybody looking for a rare Victor puzzle record? It plays three different selections on the same side...http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... SS:US:1123 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay...
Sorry about that first eBay link, it didn't come through completely in my first post. From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay... Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:00:21 -0500 Yes, it's a Victor ad puzzle, which looks like a record. It's a little too pricey for me, but they are hard to find as a complete puzzle... From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:39:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay... Hello Curt, Did you see the record that was actually a round jigsaw puzzle? Steve From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:22:53 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay... Hi Steve,Yes, that is the correct link. This particular record is a very good one, since it features Al Bowlly and is an upbeat 20's style.Curt From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:45:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay... http://www.ebay.com/itm/390518452234 This is not the one, eventually the good link for it will come through. Curt, do you have this one above? Steve From: phonost...@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:18:54 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rare Victor puzzle record on eBay... Were you referring to this mystery puzzle record? _http://www.ebay.com/itm/78-RPM-RARE-MYSTERY-PUZZLE-MULTI-GROVE-RECORD-ON-VI CTOR-22745-MUST-SEE-EE-/390518452234?pt=Music_on_Vinylhash=item5aecb6b00a_ (http://www.ebay.com/itm/78-RPM-RARE-MYSTERY-PUZZLE-MULTI-GROVE-RECORD-ON-VI CTOR-22745-MUST-SEE-EE-/390518452234?pt=Music_on_Vinylhash=item5aecb6b00a) In a message dated 12/28/2012 2:08:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, vinyl.visi...@live.com writes: Anybody looking for a rare Victor puzzle record? It plays three different selections on the same side...http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... SS:US:1123 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA?
I don't know who owned all of my phonographs previously, but I do know that my Edisons were technically owned by Thomas Edison before he sold them across the country. This thread reminded me to look at my Edison Standard, which by the way, was personally owned by TAE. How do I know? Mine not only has his name on it, but he signed it in gold... how's that for rare? As far as I know, the only portable that I would pay any amount of money for is an RCA Special, windup with battery powered amp. Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 10:44:15 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA? Arrgh!John\ --- On Thu, 12/27/12, aph4...@aol.com aph4...@aol.com wrote: From: aph4...@aol.com aph4...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA? To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, December 27, 2012, 10:35 AM I know an ENT doctor who would certainly pay through the nose for that! Art Heller In a message dated 12/27/2012 9:20:24 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: I have one of Al Jolson's nose hairs. I will reluctantly part with it for only $900.00. :-)John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA?
That brass Al Jolson plaque actually detracts from it's value, since it can't be proven which Al Jolson it does or does not refer to. Best Offer: $125.00 (that's mostly for the reproducer) :) From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:15:16 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA? http://www.ebay.com/itm/AL-JOLSONS-VICTOR-2-65-ORTHOPHONIC-VICTROLA-/181049044024 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Happy New Year (a little early)
After surviving 2012 and an attempt to wipe out the whole human race by the Mayans, all I can say is I am ready for the new year to begin. Happy 2013 from all of us at CAMPS - Carolina Antique Music Phonograph Society. In the event you have nothing better to do, we invite you to wander over to www.carolinaphonosociety.com for some fireworks and other strangely entertaining amusements... ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA?
Harvey, for that starting price - $3,500 or buy it now - $5,000, you would have to be a sucker to pay that for a portable Victrola. Without any real documentation, the claim is invalid and even if it was Al Jolson's would you pay that for a portable? How about Elvis' electric RCA portable or Gladys Knight's Sony Walkman? Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:11:31 -0800 From: harveykrav...@yahoo.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA? I have seen this machine in other phonograph forums. I think it is a fake and I'd hate to see some be suckered into a purchase. Harvey Kravitz From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA? Hello Tim, I did not know he entertained the troops after 1940, I sent the link in the event someone else was like me. The thought of a major star using a ten year old portable is very funny to me. In my mind I see him lip syncing to his mammy song and his special assistant winding the victrola changing the needle after each record. You should write a book on all the personally owned items. Thanks so much, Steve To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: phonop...@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:46:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA? Of course Al Jolson entertained the troops in the 1940s. But if you think he was carrying around a 10-plus-year-old portable Victrola, then I guess he wasn't getting paid the kind of money his staredom would have merited. (Not getting paid to entertain the troops, but getting paid from his other entrainment activities to be able to afford a new Victrola.) TF -Original Message- From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:37 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SinJgcJQhII http://www.corbisimages.com/images/Corbis-NA001477.jpg?size=67uid=dbb4b702-f7fe-420c-aa83-03a587d44190 Looks like he had a live piano player. To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: phonop...@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:27:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA? What troops, exactly, was Al Jolson entertaining? We were not at war 1919-1941, and had relatively small armed forces during that period. If I told you the number of Edison Phonographs and other objects that were personally owned by Thomas Edison over the past 43 years, you'd be surprised --- or not! Tim Fabrizio phonophan PO Box 747 Henrietta, NY 14467 TEL 585 582 1586 Web site: www.phonophan.com -Original Message- From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonolist phonol...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:29 pm Subject: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA? http://www.ebay.com/itm/AL-JOLSONS-VICTOR-2-65-ORTHOPHONIC-VICTROLA-/181049044024 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Merry Christmas - Off Topic - Auto Related
I was looking through some of my Christmas pics from previous years and found these pics from December 2008, when we visited France and Germany for the Christmas markets. If you love antique, artistic, fabulous mechanical creations - then I think you will love these, even though they aren't phono related Merry Chistmas from North CarolinaCurt http://www.preservemymoney.com/videos/Bugatti_Museum.mp4 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] off topic - discs for music box
Try Nancy Fratti: http://www.nancyfrattimusicboxes.com/ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:40:40 -0600 From: rk...@cox.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] off topic - discs for music box Off topic I know but was wondering if someone in phono forum may have insight. I've look and inquired and cannot find music discs for a Stella 9.5 music box. Any leads appreciated ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Royal Purple cylinder question
The Al Bernard cylinder is still a good prohibition title and a great find... Back to my original thread about Royal Purple cylinders - I mentioned that I found an Arthur Middleton - Freedom for all forever #29011 without a box. Sunday I found the correct empty box with the correct titled top - what's the likelihood of that?Curt Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 23:48:33 -0600 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Royal Purple cylinder question The white coloring was white lead and boiled linseed oil. It turns brown with advanced age and eventually falls out. There are several robins egg blue shade amberols and several purple ones, like I said before, Edison cylinder color quality control was not teh best. On 12/03/2012 11:00 PM, Bob Maffit wrote: Phono List: A short while ago a thread involving royal Purple cylinders had some life. some anomalies were discussed / present, like blue cylinders in the middle of the Royal Purple span of numbers or a maroon colored cylinder etc. While scanning a lot of cylinders offered for sale in a run of the mill antique shop, my wife grabbed a Purple cylinder from the group thinking it was a Royal Purple cylinder. Upon closer examination, it is not a 29XX numbered cylinder. This one is certainly the Royal Purple color however, the print is not in gold. The cylinder is: 3790 everyone wants a key to my cellar by Al Bernard The lettering isn't white or gold, it is the same color of the celluloid ) purple). Maybe the color has rubbed or washed out but, it looks like it wasn't ever colored. Any thoughts or comments? later Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Save high quality eBay scans
He lives in North Carolina and deals with only high quality machines. I bought a Pathe cylinder machine from him several years ago and it is in pristine original condition - you couldn't find a better example... From: zonophone2...@aol.com Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 07:01:41 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Save high quality eBay scans hi all this gentleman bought a machine from me at the florida show he does a great job restoring and photographing the machines zono In a message dated 11/29/2012 10:07:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rich-m...@octoxol.com writes: Well, here is the problem with this, this large size picture is 1114 X 901 pixels in size and contains 142kB of information. You would expect about 1mB if it had not had the pixel density reduced. If you check you will find this is the case for all of the ebay direct hosted pictures, there is very little there there. There is no way you can make any positive statements regarding condition from the information provided. On 11/29/2012 08:19 AM, Ron L'Herault wrote: That can't be an original finish. You can see that it is shiny as heck but you can also see stained wood underneath the finish. Sheesh. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Vinyl Visions Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:24 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Save high quality eBay scans Ever wish you could save high quality eBay scans from various listings? For example look at this current listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1902-Edison-Standard-Cylinder-Phonograph-w-Original- Blue-Flower-Horn-Gorgeous-/190758684576?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2c6a1 a87a0 Would you like to be able to save the image that you see when you use the zoom tool to view the closeups? Email me at:vinyl(dot)visions(at)live(dot)com and I will email back a PDF explaining how you can do it. Curt -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: How to copy and save high quality scans from eBay.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 164271 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20121128/e51015a3/attachm ent.pdf ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Its Christmas in North Carolina...
Thanks for the feedback, Dennis... it's appreciated! Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:44:39 -0800 From: back...@yahoo.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Its Christmas in North Carolina... Hi Curt, I checked it out. But the Edison Nutcracker was not what I was expecting. I seriously thought you were talking about this Edison Nutcracker: http://antiques.tace.com/items/pictures/pp40077.jpg After a while I DID find your Edison Nutcracker, and the Victor, too. I enjoyed the music. Your really do a great job on on that website. I'm sure you hear that a lot. :-) Thanks for getting us into the Holiday spirit with the vintage music. Dennis --- On Thu, 11/29/12, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Subject: [Phono-L] Its Christmas in North Carolina... To: phono-l@oldcrank.org phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, November 29, 2012, 8:27 PM Check our website for Holiday cheer - Edison Nutcracker, Victor Nutcracker, Dickens... www.carolinaphonosociety.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] reproducers with the strap across the front for the very early Berliner hand winds
Steve,Did you buy that hand wind Berliner from eBay that closed last week?Curt From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:14:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] reproducers with the strap across the front for the very early Berliner hand winds phonolist Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 11:48:10 +1100 From: mtucker1...@gmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] reproducers with the strap across the front for the very early Berliner hand winds Thanks Steve. What is the second list? - (I am only (partly) on Phono-L Best wishes, Mike On 1/12/2012 9:08 AM, Steven Medved wrote: Does anyone have contact info for him? Steve Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:18:23 -0800 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] reproducers with the strap across the front for the very early Berliner hand winds I do not think he is active any more, but he may still have some unsold parts or complete reproducers. Dave --- On Fri, 11/30/12, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com Subject: [Phono-L] reproducers with the strap across the front for the very early Berliner hand winds To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com, phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, November 30, 2012, 11:20 AM Hello all, Would you know of anyone who makes the reproducers with the strap across the front for the very early Berliner hand winds? Does Mirek still make them? Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Save high quality eBay scans
Dave,This is not about scams, it is about saving scanned images from eBay. This offer is not a scam or an ad, it's free to members of Phono-L, no strings - zero, zip, nada - free service, no charge - just sharing info... Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:03:15 -0800 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Save high quality eBay scans Having very little disposable income insulates me from high dollar scams! I did not buy a PowerBall ticket since I am sure that I would not be able to stand the strain of prosperity... Dave --- On Wed, 11/28/12, Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com wrote: From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Save high quality eBay scans To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 11:00 PM For some reason I find that a right click and save image as does collect the original with no secret handshakes or reading of chicken entrails. On 11/28/2012 09:24 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: Ever wish you could save high quality eBay scans from various listings? For example look at this current listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1902-Edison-Standard-Cylinder-Phonograph-w-Original-Blue-Flower-Horn-Gorgeous-/190758684576?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2c6a1a87a0 Would you like to be able to save the image that you see when you use the zoom tool to view the closeups? Email me at:vinyl(dot)visions(at)live(dot)com and I will email back a PDF explaining how you can do it. Curt -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: How to copy and save high quality scans from eBay.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 164271 bytes Desc: not available URL:http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20121128/e51015a3/attachment.pdf ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Its Christmas in North Carolina...
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Re: [Phono-L] Royal Purple series
I now have one of the Royal Purple cylinders in my possession and this one is #29011. I couldn't get both, so settled for one, along with two other blue amberols and some 78's. From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:30:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Royal Purple series According to Allan Sutton 28000 is the Concert series. In 1913 29001 to 29005 was the Grand Opera Series. In 1918 The Royal Purple series was released and 29001 to 29005 were reissued as part of the Royal Purple series. Steve From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:27:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Royal Purple series I thought so, thanks. Steve From: john9...@pacbell.net Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 06:20:40 -0800 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Royal Purple series Yes 28000 is Grand Opera. John Sent from my iPhone On Nov 28, 2012, at 5:19 AM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: The 29000 series was in blue at first and runs from 29001 to 29007, I forget what they were called first. After the first 7 were made they were changed to the Royal Purple series. Toward the end of production they were made in blue again, I have a photo of 29050 in blue. I think the 28000 series is the Grand Opera, but I will have to check to be sure. Steve the parrot From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 07:01:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol? 29050 came in blue. Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:00:47 -0600 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol? Some of the 29,000 series are more maroon than purple. There was less than stingent QA on color. On 11/27/2012 06:23 PM, Steven Medved wrote: 29001 to 29077 Royal Purple. Some blue amberols are a purple color, I have seen several. From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:01:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol? I don't know. It was with some cylinders that came with an Opera from New York. How would I recognize one, since I have never seen one either? What numbers or what type of titles would be on a Royal Purple - classical? Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:12:30 -0800 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol? A Royal Purple? --- On Tue, 11/27/12, Vinyl Visionsvinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: From: Vinyl Visionsvinyl.visi...@live.com Subject: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol? To: phono-l@oldcrank.orgphono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 5:03 PM Is there any significance to a maroon colored Amberol cylinder? A friend said he found one, and since he is a knowledgeable collector, I believe him when he says its unusual and unlike others he has seen over 40 yrs. - I haven't seen it yet. Any ideas? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?
Now that the Purple Amberol issue is settled (and by the way, in person they appear more purple than maroon as previously described) - how scarce are they? Any opinion on values - this one is in excellent condition? From: allena...@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:53:15 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol? a typo*? allen --- In a message dated 11/27/2012 9:34:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, back...@yahoo.com writes: The numbers of the Royal Purples run from 28,101* up to 29007, according to my data base. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Save high quality eBay scans
Ever wish you could save high quality eBay scans from various listings? For example look at this current listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1902-Edison-Standard-Cylinder-Phonograph-w-Original-Blue-Flower-Horn-Gorgeous-/190758684576?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2c6a1a87a0 Would you like to be able to save the image that you see when you use the zoom tool to view the closeups? Email me at:vinyl(dot)visions(at)live(dot)com and I will email back a PDF explaining how you can do it. Curt -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: How to copy and save high quality scans from eBay.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 164271 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20121128/e51015a3/attachment.pdf ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Save high quality eBay scans
Rich,Certain files are right-click disabled, so this works no matter what. Also, you need to look at the image to determine whether you are getting the largest size file, as eBay has numerous size files posted - thumbnail, low, medium and high quality .jpg images. This method is to obtain the ultimate quality image - if you don't need that, then whatever you get with a right click is OK... with no secret handshakes or chicken entrail readings. Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 22:00:50 -0600 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Save high quality eBay scans For some reason I find that a right click and save image as does collect the original with no secret handshakes or reading of chicken entrails. On 11/28/2012 09:24 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: Ever wish you could save high quality eBay scans from various listings? For example look at this current listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1902-Edison-Standard-Cylinder-Phonograph-w-Original-Blue-Flower-Horn-Gorgeous-/190758684576?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2c6a1a87a0 Would you like to be able to save the image that you see when you use the zoom tool to view the closeups? Email me at:vinyl(dot)visions(at)live(dot)com and I will email back a PDF explaining how you can do it. Curt -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: How to copy and save high quality scans from eBay.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 164271 bytes Desc: not available URL:http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20121128/e51015a3/attachment.pdf ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Thank you - not phono related
I'm a three year survivor. How many more members of the club are out there?Curt Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:24:46 -0800 From: lo...@oldcrank.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Thank you - not phono related Anthony, Congratulations and welcome to the survivor's club! I'm glad you decided to stick around :) Regards, Loran On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Anthony Sinclair sa...@yoaa.com.auwrote: Greetings from the other side of the world, It has been some years since I posted here but rest assured that I do read pretty much all of the emails that come from Phono-l. For those who don't recognise my name I write a regular column called Australia Calling for In The Groove. Yes, I am Anthony Sinclair of Australia. For those who are not members of MAPS then this email will probably be meaningless to you so I will keep it short and to the point. Back 23/March 2007 I was diagnosed with cancer and given three weeks to live. As I try to keep a low profile (aside from teasing my American friends with scurrilous remarks in ITG) I told only a few people. Well, news leaked out and the number of emails, cards and phone calls that I received was not only staggering but very, very heart warming. The kind and generous support continued right through my - obviously successful - chemo and I can truly regard the international phono family as exactly that: a FAMILY. Well, today was my final visit to my cancer doctor as it is now over five years since my treatmentand, as I am still alive, I am statistically boring and likely to keep on living for a long time to come. Unless I upset too many of my American friends by calling a VV-IV 'cheap and nasty' again. On behalf of my wife and family I say THANK YOU to everyone. Your kind words, your prayers, your presence (even on the other side of the world) made a pretty tough time tolerable and, sometimes, fun. On my own behalf I say to anyone with cancer now and in thefuture remember this: cancer IS curable. More, much more research is to be done but don't forget that you must have faith and a very positive attitude. Anthony Sinclair AUSTRALIA CALLING ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?
Is there any significance to a maroon colored Amberol cylinder? A friend said he found one, and since he is a knowledgeable collector, I believe him when he says its unusual and unlike others he has seen over 40 yrs. - I haven't seen it yet. Any ideas? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?
I don't know. It was with some cylinders that came with an Opera from New York. How would I recognize one, since I have never seen one either? What numbers or what type of titles would be on a Royal Purple - classical? Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:12:30 -0800 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol? A Royal Purple? --- On Tue, 11/27/12, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Subject: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol? To: phono-l@oldcrank.org phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 5:03 PM Is there any significance to a maroon colored Amberol cylinder? A friend said he found one, and since he is a knowledgeable collector, I believe him when he says its unusual and unlike others he has seen over 40 yrs. - I haven't seen it yet. Any ideas? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Thank you - not phono related
Congrats on the 21 yrs... hope I can say the same thing. What type did you have? Mine was aggressive, fast growing prostate cancer at age 60. Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:18:12 -0800 From: lo...@oldcrank.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Thank you - not phono related Curt, 21 years for me. Every day is a blessing. Loran On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.comwrote: I'm a three year survivor. How many more members of the club are out there?Curt Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:24:46 -0800 From: lo...@oldcrank.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Thank you - not phono related Anthony, Congratulations and welcome to the survivor's club! I'm glad you decided to stick around :) Regards, Loran On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Anthony Sinclair sa...@yoaa.com.au wrote: Greetings from the other side of the world, It has been some years since I posted here but rest assured that I do read pretty much all of the emails that come from Phono-l. For those who don't recognise my name I write a regular column called Australia Calling for In The Groove. Yes, I am Anthony Sinclair of Australia. For those who are not members of MAPS then this email will probably be meaningless to you so I will keep it short and to the point. Back 23/March 2007 I was diagnosed with cancer and given three weeks to live. As I try to keep a low profile (aside from teasing my American friends with scurrilous remarks in ITG) I told only a few people. Well, news leaked out and the number of emails, cards and phone calls that I received was not only staggering but very, very heart warming. The kind and generous support continued right through my - obviously successful - chemo and I can truly regard the international phono family as exactly that: a FAMILY. Well, today was my final visit to my cancer doctor as it is now over five years since my treatmentand, as I am still alive, I am statistically boring and likely to keep on living for a long time to come. Unless I upset too many of my American friends by calling a VV-IV 'cheap and nasty' again. On behalf of my wife and family I say THANK YOU to everyone. Your kind words, your prayers, your presence (even on the other side of the world) made a pretty tough time tolerable and, sometimes, fun. On my own behalf I say to anyone with cancer now and in thefuture remember this: cancer IS curable. More, much more research is to be done but don't forget that you must have faith and a very positive attitude. Anthony Sinclair AUSTRALIA CALLING ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?
Definitely Edison, like blue amberols only maroon in color. They have 5 digit numbers, if that means anything. I'll look at them tomorrow... From: appywan...@hotmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:18:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol? Royal Purple? Lambert? From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:03:32 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol? Is there any significance to a maroon colored Amberol cylinder? A friend said he found one, and since he is a knowledgeable collector, I believe him when he says its unusual and unlike others he has seen over 40 yrs. - I haven't seen it yet. Any ideas? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?
Just found out the titles (2):#29011Freedom for all, foreverMiddleton Chorus#29022Come where love lies dreamingDanny Case Criterion Quartet From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol? Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:18:55 -0500 Definitely Edison, like blue amberols only maroon in color. They have 5 digit numbers, if that means anything. I'll look at them tomorrow... From: appywan...@hotmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:18:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol? Royal Purple? Lambert? From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:03:32 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol? Is there any significance to a maroon colored Amberol cylinder? A friend said he found one, and since he is a knowledgeable collector, I believe him when he says its unusual and unlike others he has seen over 40 yrs. - I haven't seen it yet. Any ideas? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Thank you - not phono related
Hope everything goes well, George. The time between the surgery and that first PSA is somewhat stressful... a zero PSA is what you're shooting for. To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: gpaul2...@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:23:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Thank you - not phono related I'm a 5 week survivor! Had my prostate removed 5 weeks ago today, and I'm supposedly cancer-free now. A PSA in February will confirm that. George Paul -Original Message- From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, Nov 27, 2012 4:09 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Thank you - not phono related I'm a three year survivor. How many more members of the club are out there?Curt Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:24:46 -0800 From: lo...@oldcrank.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Thank you - not phono related Anthony, Congratulations and welcome to the survivor's club! I'm glad you decided to stick around :) Regards, Loran On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Anthony Sinclair sa...@yoaa.com.auwrote: Greetings from the other side of the world, It has been some years since I posted here but rest assured that I do read pretty much all of the emails that come from Phono-l. For those who don't recognise my name I write a regular column called Australia Calling for In The Groove. Yes, I am Anthony Sinclair of Australia. For those who are not members of MAPS then this email will probably be meaningless to you so I will keep it short and to the point. Back 23/March 2007 I was diagnosed with cancer and given three weeks to live. As I try to keep a low profile (aside from teasing my American friends with scurrilous remarks in ITG) I told only a few people. Well, news leaked out and the number of emails, cards and phone calls that I received was not only staggering but very, very heart warming. The kind and generous support continued right through my - obviously successful - chemo and I can truly regard the international phono family as exactly that: a FAMILY. Well, today was my final visit to my cancer doctor as it is now over five years since my treatmentand, as I am still alive, I am statistically boring and likely to keep on living for a long time to come. Unless I upset too many of my American friends by calling a VV-IV 'cheap and nasty' again. On behalf of my wife and family I say THANK YOU to everyone. Your kind words, your prayers, your presence (even on the other side of the world) made a pretty tough time tolerable and, sometimes, fun. On my own behalf I say to anyone with cancer now and in thefuture remember this: cancer IS curable. More, much more research is to be done but don't forget that you must have faith and a very positive attitude. Anthony Sinclair AUSTRALIA CALLING ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?
According to my quick research, the titles and numbers indicate that they are indeed Royal Purples... From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:01:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol? I don't know. It was with some cylinders that came with an Opera from New York. How would I recognize one, since I have never seen one either? What numbers or what type of titles would be on a Royal Purple - classical? Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:12:30 -0800 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol? A Royal Purple? --- On Tue, 11/27/12, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Subject: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol? To: phono-l@oldcrank.org phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 5:03 PM Is there any significance to a maroon colored Amberol cylinder? A friend said he found one, and since he is a knowledgeable collector, I believe him when he says its unusual and unlike others he has seen over 40 yrs. - I haven't seen it yet. Any ideas? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Columbia Baby Grand piano shaped phonograph
How about pics of the machine and the autostop? Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:49:55 -0500 From: ba...@barrykasindorf.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia Baby Grand piano shaped phonograph Hi, I recently got one of these, Circasian Walnut straight leg. It has the early electric motor. It works but I can't figure out how to adjust the autostop. The last owner has 'fixed' it. Same with the speed control but that I have an idea how to fix. Also it comes with 2 reproducers. I assumed they were different, one for early acoustic and one for electric recorded. But the 2 that came with it are the same. It is also missing one of the gold plated tools (the needle nose pliers) from the drawer. I assume I will never get a gold plated one but would like to get one of the same type and vintage and plate it. Any ideas where to look for one? -- -Barry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Happy Thanksgiving from NC
Happy Thanksgiving from Carolina Antique Music Phonograph Society After you're stuffed and thankful, or over the long weekend when there is nothing to do but shop,why not take a little time exploring our website - it's a virtual phono-escape. And please pass it onto everyone in your contact list - we need to promote our hobby for the next generation:www.carolinaphonosociety.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record???
Steve - thanks for looking. Everyone - have a very nice, peaceful and Happy Thanksgiving!!! From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:54:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record??? Curt, I will try to find the record. Steve From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:34:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record??? Steve, can you post a picture of your record label? Or, if not, send it as an attachment to my email address: curt(dot)angstman(at)gmail(dot)com and I will post it on our website... From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:47:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record??? Curt, I assumed it was all the same. Steve From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:37:56 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record??? Steve, your record sounds like one to benefit widows and orphans because of the subject matter on the label. I'm still not sure of the purpose of my record with Kaiser Wilhelm at the Mozart Music Verein in NY was. I GOOGLED Mozart Music Verein New York and found an article from 1894 about the 40th anniversary of this music club. The Verein (club) was started in New York City in 1854 to further the musical interests in the works of Mozart and other contemporary composers. I can't find anything to indicate that this club had anything to do with providing help or care to German war refugees, but obviously this article is less than complete. I'm puzzled about the purpose of the record, except maybe a historical recording of a concert held for Kaiser Wilhelm? Since there were only several hundred members, the demand for this record must have been low and doesn't seem to be a great choice for a fundraiser for war widows and children, since the Kaiser was mostly responsibl e fo r t he mayhem created in WWI...Any more ideas?Curt From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:56:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record??? I have or had one of this series, it shows a widow by a grave with a small child in her arms and one holding her mothers hand. Thanks, I wondered about it. Steve Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:49:00 -0800 From: majesticrec...@snet.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record??? According to Note the Notes, a book by Michael Sherman and Kurt Nauck there was a series of these pictorial labels in 1916 and early 1917 to benefit Austrian and German widows and orphans during the war. The series ended when we declared war on Germany. I presume this is one of those series. The patent dates listed the way they are has this record fall into that time frame. Glenn From: zonophone2...@aol.com zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, November 13, 2012 3:33:36 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record??? KURT ARE YOU LOOKING he knows most records you can also contact him at na...@78rpm.com he runs a good auction zono -Original Message- From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, Nov 13, 2012 10:59 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record??? A few days ago, I posted this inquiry about an unusual Columbia record that I found. Someone out there must know something about this record and its history... Here are pics of the front and back: http://open1234.wix.com/camps-site#!__columbia-record Any info would be appreciated, Curt From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:10:35 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record??? I found a 12 one sided Columbia record which has a picture of Kaiser Wilhelm II on the label, with the phrases Gruss an den Kaiser - (Greetings to the Emperor) and Gott mit uns - (God with us). The number is 59408 - last patent date is Nov. 30, 1909 and the title is: Dem Deutschen Kaiser Gewidmet Von Dem Mozart-Verein in New York - (Dedicated to the German Emperor Of The Mozart Club in New York). The label is a very detailed and attractive
