Jeff
2 oz standard stock here too, though they will plate up to 4oz if needed
with no problems.
Rich
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 September 2004 21:12
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Thickest Copper
Jeff,
2 oz. However, I
Bob
You can open the panel with the button at the Bottom right hand corner of
the screen, marker 'PCB3D'
Rich
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From: bob stephens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 August 2004 14:29
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 3D Viewer - was ( QualECAD View 3D)
Bob
I didn't 'get' it either at first, but it'll suddenly click after a couple
weeks use. At least it did for me ;-)
Rich
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From: bob stephens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 August 2004 16:52
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 3D Viewer - was (
I've got a matrox parhelia with two seventeen inch tft displays at
1280*1024. works great. I generally have the panels open all of the time on
the second monitor, main workspace on the primary. Different resolutions
should be fine as long as your gfx card doesn't 'stretch' the display across
the
monitor, rather than centred between the two.
What a pain that is.
Take Care
Rich
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From: Matt Pobursky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 August 2004 21:07
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Multiple Displays
On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 20:19:41 +0100, Rich Thompson wrote
I've never had any success with the built in protel auto placer, but have
heard some good things about Premier EDA's add on.
http://www.eda.co.uk/actiplace.html
Not sure if it works with 2004, I haven't used it myself...
Rich
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From: Gustavo Olego [mailto:[EMAIL
I agree, also BOMs are much better as is database linking. The new
schematic wiring modes are excellent and real time savers, The new scripting
stuff is very cool, easily add functions that are not present for obscure
things. Simulation is now usable and quite good.
The whole package 'feels'
Get the full version of Adobe Acrobat or pdf995 (www.pdf995.com) or one of
the numerous free versions. Then you can print directly to pdf from protel.
(I use acrobat 6 and it works great) oh, and pdf is definately the best
option ;-)
Rich
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From: Trent Bates
Jeff
Compile (sic) the design and open the Navigator panel. Select the flattened
hierarchy and type the designator you need, you can zoom/mask whatever you
need. You could also do Edit/Find and type the designator then look in the
messages panel if there are multiple matches
Hope that helps
I got my 2004 disks last week, so far I have found it to be very good. Much
better than DXP. The new schematic wiring modes are great, real time
savers, and the sch display is neater too. PCB hasn't changed much compared
to dxp but I like that side mostly anyway. The whole package 'seems'
I've got to agree with John, never had a problem. The only time I have seen
this kind of thing before, is when the default template file is
corrupt/invalid or moved. When you open the schematic protel can't find the
template, gives the error, then proceeds to open the sch fine anyway. Try
Just a quick note about DXP, this is another area that has been dramatically
improved! There is now a component links editor in the pcb and a command to
reset all links (though it is hidden in an obscure place)
Rich
Big Snip
There ought to be a button for Unlink PCB or something like that. But
Tim
I'm sure there is an easier way but I've done similar in the past using DXP.
In the library editor, goto tools/parameter manager, select just parts.
In the spreadsheet window select the entire column you want to modify (all
parts) and copy it.
Open Excel or similar and paste in. Use excels
I'm personally happy with DXP, it is infinitely better than 99SE. As for
protel 2004, whats the problem? You are getting the SP3 updates and new
features within 2004 release for free! I think you may be right about the
sleep ;-)
rt
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From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL
I'm on DXP and use the middle mouse button to select the next signal layer
(shortcut key * normally) this works really well in use.
I couldn't find a way of doing this in protel, however my microsoft optical
mouse has options for program specific customization in its drivers. Add
dxp (or your
DXP does support this
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From: Jun Gong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 October 2003 20:32
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: [PEDA] Height limit on PCB, Protel 99SE sdk and more
Hi,
We often several areas on PCB where component height is limited. Currently
Protel
Laurie
the problem i have with a standard CVS system is that i have to check out
the whole directory. we keep all pcbs in a single directory, all drawings
in a single directory etc and then reference drawing number/pcb number to
projects. (This is because items are used in more than one
Ian
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From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
There are lots of version control systems around, but they don't,
generally, do issue management (or manage BOMs and assemblies etc).
Have a look under version control systems on sourceforge
(http://sourceforge.net/) for
thanks Paul
that looks great. i'll give it a trial on monday. together with Tlib,
issueview and columbus!
thanks everyone
Rich
the problem i have with a standard CVS system is that i have to check
out the whole directory.
Quma Version Control System from Quma Software Inc. allows you to
Hi Jeff
Would you mind CC'ing it to me, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I wasn't subscribed to
the OT list (am now) as the mail archive doesn't seem to archive the OT list
and i missed it.
thanks
Rich
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From: Jeffrey A. Bensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 September 2003
Hi Jeff
Would you mind CC'ing it to me, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I wasn't subscribed to
the OT list (am now) and the mail archive doesn't seem to archive the OT
list so i missed it.
thanks
Rich
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From: Jeffrey A. Bensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 September 2003
Hi group
sorry about the kinda off topic post but this is a good place for opinions
etc.
I need a new system to track drawing revisions, ECO, ECR,MCR etc. Maybe
even a full blown product lifecycle management system.
I don't want to (or rather can't ;-) ) spend 100 thousand on a full blown
Peter
snip
BTW, I guess I'm not alone in finding Protel's charge for upgrading is kind
of insane. I think my 16 bit software cost me about $2000. To upgrade now
to DXP would cost me $6000.
snip
We got a deal for half price to move to dxp, still a lot but much more
paletable ;-) with a little
Ivan
snip
Anyone heard how the new class D amps sound? Several chip makers (TI,
Zetex, etc.) have come out with class D amp chips recently. Personally, I'm
skeptical until I get to audition an amp made from these. Might be good for
el cheapo consumer audio, but hi-fi? I suppose a class D
Brad,
I may misunderstand here but:
Turn off the Group parts together if matched by: and it will annotate
directly in position order as you wish and not group together eg 10k
0402.
Whenever I need to always group multipart components I always add
another comment to the user fields and group by
Mike/Ian
You bet me to it Ian, the select button
Ive just had my DXP box arrive, and have been reading the dxp lists, I
hadnt seen the select button missing from classes :-( that's one that
should get put back.. Oh well, back to that learning curve..
#Rich
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Mike
snip
I even got crafty and slick with 99SE
on occasion so there are work arounds for selection. On the occasions
that
it failed me, I doubt if DXP was up to the task of what I wanted to
select
anyway. ie selecting classes of component, or classes of nets. Or
maybe
99se can do it and
Hi AJ
I've only ever seen this when the schematic template file is moved or
corrupt. Try removing any special templates or checking your created
ones (if applicable)
Hope that helps
Rich
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ajenkins;avtron.com]
Sent: 04 November 2002
Hi
I sometimes miss silkscreen printed over component pads, is there a rule
to look for this in 99SEsp6?
Thanks
Rich
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Hi Paul
This is untested (I'm at home) but from memory you could just add ;
PCB:Netlist Action=ClearAllNets
to the right click menu. This is changed by going to customize (or just
double click the free space in the menu bar) go to help/popups/right
mouse click and add the resource in there.
Hi Guys
Can anyone out there point me to the syntax for the place line/track
command to be used from within a client basic script using 99se (PCB).
Protel Knowledge Base Item - 2895 details what I am tring to achieve,
but the download samples appear to be a broken link and I couldn't see
that
On 09:36 AM 19/09/2002 +0200, Ian Wilson said on PEDA:
snip
The P99SE DRC system does not consider multi-layer entities as also
existing on the various copper layers. This is why Kulajew's rule does
not
work. I have raised this with Altium on a number of occasions. It is a
structural
see the pads in multi layer
mode. Am I missing something here?
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From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 20 September 2002 01:12
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Selective tenting on one side only
On 07:50 PM 19/09/2002 +0100, Rich Thompson said
Wow! 2 hours. How long have people been requesting a free protel
schematic viewer? A LONG time. Congratulations.
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From: vincent mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 September 2002 20:51
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] converting protel schematic to
Jim
Hhhm, I did exactly that, made a complete library of our stocked parts
then used the (horribly slow) database link feature to update our part
numbers into the schematic. The link feature just uses an excel file
(good for copy paste) and export it as dbase4. I believe Ian Wilson
wrote a
Hahahahaha I love this guy ;-)
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From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 03 August 2002 19:32
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Upgrade Pricing Ethics WAS: Not DXP or P99SE, but
have you seen the Cadence offer
As for market
Finger hovering over the JaMi block...
Ian
Hehe, well said Ian. I don't think I ever had to kill filter anyone on
a mailing list before :-) Here's hoping I never have to.
JaMi, please chill out a little, this isn't a playground. These
arguments have been fun to watch but are getting
DXP Demo does allow this in schematic, just drop a component on top of a
wire and it will automatically cut and insert for you. Just one of the
many nice improvements I've seen in the 10 mins I just evaluated it for.
Rich
Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP schematic, any good?
The ability to break a
Go to Tools/Preferences and un-tick Click Clears Selection it now
works as in 99SE
Rich
Gripe 4
The selection is not 'sticky'
you select a bunch of stuff , as soon as you click somewhere the
selection gets undone. how do you
1) add more stuff to this selection
2 ) move a part outside
Yuri,
Make sure you have drag connected tracks selected in the preferences
dialogue though, then it works fine for single components. Just a pity
it doesn't work for entire selections (like on cadstar). Works okay for
moving a couple of items, more and the move selection method is better.
i saw this happen when i used teardrops with arcs. it did not happen with
tear drops with lines however. just a thought.
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From: EDA Software Technical Dpt. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 June 2002 14:50
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: [PEDA] Problem with Polygon
i had terrible problems with a generic geforce2 card using the supplied
drivers with rats nest lines not disapearing when moving and the 3d display
taking 3 mins to update on a simple board. However, after downloading the
nvidia test drivers it works flawlessly. not as good as my old elsa card
i too have had two fujitsu drives fail recently and now avoid them like the
plague, i have only ever had on seagate drive fail (in many years) though,
and they replaced that free of charge even though it was over two and a half
years old!! fujitsu wouldn't even talk to me about a 13 month old
Hi Ivan
Since Protel DDBs are so huge now, fitting a large project on one CD-R
might
be a problem. I have yet to see good backup software that will span a
backup across multiple CD-R. Anyone know of one?
if you store your work on a seperate drive (not your OS drive) like me you
can use norton
i've seen this problem, it happens when you double click a pad and change
its location (not the component itself) it doesnt matter if the component
has locked prims, which to me is a little naughty, If i recall correctly it
didnt even warn me. 99SP6.
Bye
Rich
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They are indeed the big guys i have friends who use ProE and it is very
complex big software. I downloaded the free desktop edition however and
found it very easy to use and quite capable. Well worth the effort. It
seems they are worried about people like solidworks competition in the
budget
snip
ps. can anyone point me some of the protel archive sites. ive had to
reinstall win2k and lost all of my links.
What do you mean by protel archive sites? Do you mean sites which
archive this forum? Or sites that contain general Protel info? Or sites
that have add-on servers for Protel?
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