[PEDA] PLD problem

2002-09-12 Thread EDA Software Technical Dpt.

Re: [PEDA] SV: Protel clone on the way?!?!?!

2002-09-12 Thread Andrew Jenkins
> From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > It's freeware for 15 or 30 days, right? According to the author, "it has no timebomb", therefore, it should not be time-limited. I highly doubt that the authopr intends this product as freeware, but instead I do get the feeling that he has re

Re: [PEDA] Overlapping Polygons in 99SE

2002-09-12 Thread Brad Velander
Scott, I cannot follow your explanation of your process as presented below. However, the previous issues that I raised are the only times that I have ever seen a polygon overlap another polygon. I used multiple polygons all the time, sometimes just to make sure that some areas get

Re: [PEDA] Board Shops with Online Quotes ?

2002-09-12 Thread Jeff Adolphs
Miker, My two cents on some of the best board shops I have used (very high quality): http://www.sascircuits.com/ http://www.sovereign-circuits.com/ http://www.prototron.com/index.html http://www.circuitcenter.com/Default.htm Less expensive that I use for prototypes and short runs (maybe not

Re: [PEDA] [PrU] New Moderated Forum

2002-09-12 Thread Jason Morgan
Jami, read the original email, I think you've over-reacted!! - You said I would respectfully submit that the specific action that you appear to have just now taken here, to wit, the shutting down the PEDA forum, may in fact be a little extreme. techserve said > The new forum will be modera

Re: [PEDA] Overlapping Polygons in 99SE

2002-09-12 Thread Brian Sherer
Scott- If I read your post correctly, it appears that you are placing the polygons and _then_ assigning them to the selected net, rather than assigning the polygon to its final net while in the polygon placement dialog box. I've gotten mysterious results when trying this for overlapping polygon

Re: [PEDA] [PrU] New Moderated Forum

2002-09-12 Thread JaMi Smith
seperate repost so as not to crosslink - js - Original Message - From: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [PrU] Re: [PEDA] New Moderated Forum > I did in fact overreact and

Re: [PEDA] - Possible Bug? -NO

2002-09-12 Thread Rob Young
Now that I know of the P L command, I went into the PCB library editor to create a component and the P L command does not exist! However, you can use the P T command on a mechanical layer and if you change the width on the fly, your current layer stays as it should. Rob - Original Message -

Re: [PEDA] - Possible Bug? -NO

2002-09-12 Thread Dennis Saputelli
no i don't agree that this is a bug when you say "shouldn't it know when it's placing a mech line?" i don't see how you could wish to place a line on a copper layer (which would of course be conductive) for example on top layer if you start from a pad with a net and P T the track will have th

Re: [PEDA] - Possible Bug? -NO

2002-09-12 Thread Dennis Saputelli
yes they do not handle the lib editor consistently too bad although a rationalization could be that that a lib track does not have net attributes and design rules which is largely what drives the distinction between Place Line and Place Track in the PCB editor also note that P T is actually no l

Re: [PEDA] - Possible Bug? -NO

2002-09-12 Thread Andrew Jenkins
> -Original Message- > From: Rob Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Now that I know of the P L command, I went into the PCB > library editor to > create a component and the P L command does not exist! There are no "lines" in the PCB editor. They're all polylines, or, in Protel nomencl

Re: [PEDA] Footprint converter

2002-09-12 Thread Brian Guralnick
Sound like a worthy ClientBasic script for me to build. Can anyone provide with the IPL specs? Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice (514) 624-4003 Fax (514) 624-3631 - Original Message - From: "Peder K. Hellegaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PR

Re: [PEDA] GTC - Guaranteed To Crash

2002-09-12 Thread Daniel Webster
I am bit behind in response here, but nontheless I should let others know that I tested this on my machine and found that it did not crash. Protel 99SE Windows 2000 PIII 1G 512M Ram -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:46 AM

Re: [PEDA] - Possible Bug? -NO -YES

2002-09-12 Thread JaMi Smith
Dennis and the group, I, like a few others have always used "Place Track", and hence when it was pointed out that I should have been using "Place Line" on a MECH layer instead, I sulked away and figured it wasn't really a bug after all, and I should use the correct "Line" instead or "Track" But

Re: [PEDA] Fw: on topic supply SOS

2002-09-12 Thread Brian Guralnick
Does anyone have experience with NIC capacitors? http://www.niccomp.com/ Are they a good choice for board decoupling caps? Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] (514) 624-4003 * Tracking #: 1594CC6430F41D4292887

Re: [PEDA] - Possible Bug? -NO -YES

2002-09-12 Thread Ray Mitchell
As they used to say back in Roman times, "One man's bug is another man's feature.". (Don't you just hate a smart-ass!) * Tracking #: 62D8958B6934B74E8448D96EDB3BC872B2F4D045 * *

Re: [PEDA] - Possible Bug? -NO

2002-09-12 Thread Tim Exley
Well, you could just modify the tool bar ... I've added a PCB:PlaceTrack button and used the Wire.bmp image and changed the bmp image on the "Place lines on the current document" button from the Wire.bmp to the Polyline.bmp image. This way, pressing the tab button after clicking on the button ...

Re: [PEDA] - Possible Bug? -NO -YES

2002-09-12 Thread Fabian Hartery
JaMi, I would have to agree with Dennis that this is not a bug. My counter to this is that one could try and use lines on a schematic for interconnecting parts. When doing a netlist, you would find nothing was connected. Protel points this out subtly by having associated colors for those purposes

Re: [PEDA] - Possible Bug? -NO

2002-09-12 Thread Shane Edwards
Well it is either a bug or a feature. And if it's a feature what do you use it for? If people are using it or it helps them then I'd like to know :-) I say it should know what layer you are on, so if you are placing a mech line protel can say 'Hey, they're on a mech layer, I'll bring up a non-ele

Re: [PEDA] - Possible Bug? -NO -YES -YES

2002-09-12 Thread JaMi Smith
Fabian, See below, JaMi - Original Message - From: "Fabian Hartery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] - Possible Bug? -NO -YES > JaMi, > > I would have to agree with Dennis that this is not

Re: [PEDA] - Possible Bug? -NO

2002-09-12 Thread Dennis Saputelli
i see what you mean about the ICONs i have never used the tool buttons so i didn't notice that i was referring to keystrokes certainly it would be nice to have better consistency between the editors but at this point i guess it is academic as 99SE has presumably been put out to pasture Dennis

Re: [PEDA] - Possible Bug? -NO

2002-09-12 Thread Tony Karavidas
True enough Ed. I think a nice thing to do would be to change the function of the PlacementTools Icon (in the floating menu) to be 'interactive routing' instead of placing lines. They are almost the same thing except for the net association that occurs with interactive routing lines. > -Ori

Re: [PEDA] I want my .... I want my... I want my SP7

2002-09-12 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Let me do it again: I really want my SP7! Igor -Original Message- From: Brooks,Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2002 8:38 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: [PEDA] I want my I want my... I want my SP7 :) Bill Brooks ***

[PEDA] Can I edit split planes

2002-09-12 Thread JaMi Smith
In Protel 99 SE, I have 4 split planes, with the outer ones being ground with only one split, between analog and digital, to provide a good solid ground for all of the LVDS controlled impedence goodies on the outer 2 layers. Remaining 2 inner planes are split to provide 2 different supplie volt

Re: [PEDA] A few nets attach to blank space after move selection.

2002-09-12 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Dave, Ian, I have seen this behaviuor when importing a pcb from Protel DOS into Protel 3 and Protel 98. Those happened to be pads with zero diameter and polygons with zero size. Try to search for those objects in the reports and check if there are any. After increasing their size I was able to

Re: [PEDA] Can I edit split planes

2002-09-12 Thread Ian Capps
JaMi Edit, Move Split Plane vertices will do it. Ian - Original Message - From: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 1:29 PM Subject: [PEDA] Can I edit split planes > In Protel

Re: [PEDA] Can I edit split planes

2002-09-12 Thread Tony Karavidas
> -Original Message- > From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 8:30 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Cc: JaMi Smith > Subject: [PEDA] Can I edit split planes > > > In Protel 99 SE, I have 4 split planes, with the outer ones > being ground with only

Re: [PEDA] A few nets attach to blank space after move selection.

2002-09-12 Thread Ian Wilson
On 01:31 PM 13/09/2002 +1000, Igor Gmitrovic said: >Dave, Ian, > >I have seen this behaviuor when importing a pcb from Protel DOS into >Protel 3 and Protel 98. Those happened to be pads with zero diameter and >polygons with zero size. Try to search for those objects in the reports >and check if

Re: [PEDA] Can I edit split planes

2002-09-12 Thread JaMi Smith
Tony and Ian also, Excellent! Excellent! Learned all kinds of things today! Guess it helps to look at those menu's every now and then! Thank you thank you, JaMi - Original Message - From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thurs