Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

Bill, have you ever known Grant to design or sell a bike thing he's not interested in? Of course I don't expect him to do a disc Riv, it's just a request with the thinking that maybe youngsters at RBW could spearhead it. It'd be cool if it happened, but I'll keep buying frames and parts from

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

I won't quarrel with Rivendell if it never makes a disc brake bike, but as to disc brake technology itself -- and I speak as a bitter, aging disparager of so much of modernity* -- I have to agree with Jeffrey. Disc brakes do work well, and solve a number of problems that other types of brakes

Re: [RBW] Re: Cowboy Trail NE, Goatheads, tire choice

Actually, my points are 2: First: goatheads pose an entirely new level of danger from flats; tires that will run thousands of miles without flats in goathead-free areas will flat much more often if ridden in goathead infested areas. Second, if you choose tires, or flat-proofing systems, that are

Re: [RBW] Re: Cowboy Trail NE, Goatheads, tire choice

Which Schwalbe tire were the 35s, and what were the puncture dangers? Are goathead thorns a liability in the RAGBRAI region? Sure, you can buy tires that will all but prevent flats from anything except a sharp nail set at just the right angle, or a knife deliberately pushed through the tread, but

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

Joe, A bit of background for you here: Been cycling seriously since 1987. Ever since disc brakes came out I thought they were just another way for the cycling marketers to sell more stuffI did not buy into this 'new tech.' I continued to ride a v-brake equipped bike. We live here in

[RBW] Re: Cowboy Trail NE, Goatheads, tire choice

Erl, yep, there's a highway and it's got a good shoulder on the side as well. Not a lot of bike shops up that way, but if you need help, Nebraskans (Midwesterners in general) will give you a lift to the nearby towns. I think your Schwables will be fine w/o any sealant. I have a pair of 35c

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

Those of you who want a disc-Riv, how would you feel about Rivendell offering just a disc fork option for a few of the exiting bikes? The front brake does most of our braking anyways, the rear is arguably only there for emergency use, except for maybe on dedicated MTB's which Riv doesn't really

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

I’m married to an artist and there are pieces she has been asked to make that she just doesn’t want to make. The love is not there. I happen to think of bicycles as pieces of art. If the love is not there for the artist, I’m not sure the end product would meet the artist’s own standards and

Re: [RBW] Cowboy Trail NE, Goatheads, tire choice

Note too that with Orange Seal or any other sealant I've used, if you get a bigger hole from glass or nail that the sealant can't seal, you'll have a mess and a tube that you can't patch -- a downside of using sealant. But I find that these sorts of punctures are so rare that a spare tube (with

Re: [RBW] Cowboy Trail NE, Goatheads, tire choice

FWIW, you can remove the cores from valves that are not "removable". Just use pliers to remove the core locknut; let the core fall into the tube (pinch tube under the valve stem so that it doth not disappear into the abyss), and squirt in your sealant. Even if the core does drop to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Gear and Crank Arm Length

To be precise: the 175s feel harder to spin at higher cadences; for me, that;s 90+. They feel easier to spin, or to get up to a certain cadence, *maybe,* at lower cadences, and given the bulk and diameter and contact patch of the wheels -- 61 mm actual -- compared to the ~ 27 to 31 mm but far

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Gear and Crank Arm Length

I like to think I can get torque slightly more easily with the 175s on my Matthews, but really, what I feel is that they are slightly harder to spin compared to the 170s I use on everything else. I certainly couldn't tell a difference when I briefly used 172.5s on a Ram. There are so many

[RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

Yep, true. The shortest reach/extension offered on the Nitto UI-12 is a 60, and from there they go up by 10mm increments to a 120. The column is only 140mm tall, so you'd have to want the bars sorta low. On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 12:49:49 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Yes, those quill

[RBW] Un-un-racing update: My first ever mountain bike race

I'm a pretty devout unracer. One of my un-unracing activities is I'm the volunteer team mechanic for the El Cerrito High School Mountain bike racing team.

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

Cost was $450 for a custom fork (matches original except disc tab and stoutness) and ~200 to add a tab to the frame. ISO mounts. I already needed a paint job and a new fork, so it was a no brainer for me. On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:50 PM EasyRider wrote: > Kinda surprising

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

Kinda surprising that more people haven't done as William, and had disc mounts added their Atlantis, Hunq, Sam, etc., What would it cost, a few hundred? Plus repaint? Or maybe get Waterford to make a disc fork? I'd guess that'd be 400-500. Anyway, a lot less than buying a new disc Riv, were one

[RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

Every time someone makes the argument about unneeded complexity of hydro discs I think to the geometry charts that people reference for setting up cantilevers, laugh to myself, and keep going. I’d get a disc Hunq. But honestly I’d probably just get a Jones at that point. Same approach in

[RBW] Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

Magura make a hydro V brake. You don't have to go disc to get one finger braking. IanA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

Even though I would choose a disc Hunq if they offered it, I do agree with what you wrote, Mark. Rivs stop pretty well already and they just don't really need to add a disc brake unless it's warranted, like with the tandem. On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 4:48:02 PM UTC-6, Mark in Beacon wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

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[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

I don't think it's weird to want discs on a Riv. I like the Riv aesthetic and ride, and it's completely unique to that company. I can go somewhere else to get the brakes I want, but I can't get somewhere else to duplicate a Rivendell frame for them. So I'm answering the question "what other Riv

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr or Appaloosa as a mtb/gravel road bicycle.

Hey Jeremy, what tires are you running in that pic? For my application, I'll be running: - 1/3 forest path stuff with some single track runs, some roots, few rocks, no long steep climbs/descents - 1/3 big gravel (up to 50-cent piece size), with some hard pack runs where gravel has

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

FORK from a 59 cm Hunqapillar. Sorry about that. Fair winds, Captain Conway Bennett 239.877.4119 On Feb 4, 2018 4:37 PM, "Joe Bernard" wrote: > What does "one from a 59cm" mean? I can't imagine you're really selling a > Hunq frame/fork for $300. > > -- > You received

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

I am going to rest my case {sustained applause} but I do want to clarify, the main tenet of my position has little to do with the efficacy of the technology or the ease of setup, at least not in the conventional sense. I had disc brakes on several cargo bikes and, briefly, a folder that came

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

What does "one from a 59cm" mean? I can't imagine you're really selling a Hunq frame/fork for $300. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

Seriously? Yeah, I will buy that right now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

If someone wants a Hunqapillar I have one from a 59cm. How's $300 shipped? Captain Conway, www.ChicaGoByBoat.com @svnightswimming -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

This must be an “all-rounder” bar for me. No single track anymore, but anything else is fair game. My noodles have sufficed for everything so far, but I’m looking at options. I like the out on the hoods position for longer rides, and try to change hand placement often even though I currently

[RBW] Clem Smith Jr or Appaloosa as a mtb/gravel road bicycle.

Hey Patrick, I’ve been reading your blog and just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to record your thoughts and feelings on your rides. You are certainly putting that quickbeam through the paces and congrats for that. I have a rigid single speed mtb (not riv) that I use fairly often and

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto racks, Thomson seat posts, Suntour XC and Shimano cantilevers, Bosco bars.

Update: Mark's rack and Bosco bars are sold. The Thomson seat posts are both Elite models. I mis-specified diameter and length of the silver one -- upon an email query I looked again -- it is a 27.4 diameter and 330mm length. Thanks, Julian Westerhout -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

The mechanical discs on my Bike Friday are definitely easier to set up than the Paul Racers on my Pashley. I think there will be a disc-braked Riv eventually, but Grant and I will probably be riding disc-braked electric trikes by the time it happens ;-) -- You received this message because

[RBW] Have you loved your model of Rivendell so much that you bought one of every color?

Sorta. It started with an orange Ram. That led to a silver Rom. Then I ordered a blue Roadeo. I rounded the “same bike’ collecttion With a Bailey Falls Blue (green) Heron. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

IME, mechanical disc brakes work really well. Hydros work really, really well. I agree with you, Mark, that we humans tend to embrace new technology rather quickly, often without considering consequences. However, mechanical disc brakes on a bike are—at this point—tried and true. I’m a

[RBW] Re: Cowboy Trail NE, Goatheads, tire choice

Erl, I put Orange seal into the tubes on the bike that I converted to 650b for my daughter. Although she doesn't have a whole lot of road (outdoor) miles on those wheels yet, she has had no flats. I was able to get tubes with removable valve cores from Silver Exp. here in Kensington. I think

[RBW] Re: Have you loved your model of Rivendell so much that you bought one of every color?

Yes, No, Sorta? You're now the owner of my 1st ever Rivy,, a (bit too big for me) 54cm Rambouillet in "Rivendellicious Blue", liked the color (and the bike) so much I was lucky to find an 52cm Rambo in the same color! Manny (T.O.M.) On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 5:14:05 PM UTC-7, Lum Gim

[RBW] Cowboy Trail NE, Goatheads, tire choice

Patricks and Tim, Thanks for the info. I'll do some reading on Orange Seal and tubes with removable valve cores. Dean, I appreciate the info from your ride. From the reading I've done, it seems portions of the western section (Atkinson to Valentine) are afflicted with vegetation and thorns

[RBW] FS: Nitto racks, Thomson seat posts, Suntour XC and Shimano cantilevers, Bosco bars.

For Sale — all prices include shipping w/in CONUS Bosco bars cromo 55cm/25.4 take offs from my Clem — never ridden. $55 Thomson 27.2 300mm silver seat post, with cloth bag. Lots of scratches on bottom 5 inches or so — pristine above insert line. $50 Thomson 27.2 250mm black seat post.

[RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

Yes, those quill open-clamp designs will work if you can find one short enough. Jones Bikes are designed to work with that bar on a shorty stem, and my Clem L had the same cockpit parameters. The only way I was getting a 40cm stem was to go threadless. -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

No, they are pretty different. On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 5:20:25 PM UTC-8, Sky Coulter wrote: > Isn’t that the clem? > > Sky in new west > > > On Feb 3, 2018, at 5:11 PM, nash5...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > Something like a hunq but with the price point of a clem. That would do it > >

[RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

Agree, Joe. The Jones Loop H-Bar's beauty (well, some say it's ugly) is the number of realistic and comfortable hand positions ... while giving very confident control on or off road. I also like the convenience that the Jones H-Bar Pack

[RBW] WTB - Riv Reader #37

Of interest to the Honorable Mr. Lum Gim Fong: With Steve having piqued my interest, I've been reading RR 37 and there is an extensive section on the Bleriot (I'm thinking it was a new model in 2006, the year of RR37) that you may find very interesting. Let me know and I'll shoot you the PDF

[RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

Rusty, it depends on what kind of riding you'll be doing. Albatross is a nice city bar for cruising, but you better like the upright position near the ends 'cause that's realistically the only one available. I've used them a bunch and like them, but I don't recommend going on a long, wind-blown

[RBW] Re: Fixed Gear and Crank Arm Length

I switched from 172.5 and 175 to 165 because I was getting knee pain and some research told me that it may have to do with crank length. It worked, after switching the distance my leg had to travel on each pedal stroke and for some reason helped the knee pain. The short cranks helped with

[RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

Joe, I was thinking about the Jones for the upcoming Atlantis build. What do you think of that, versus the Albatross? On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 1:07:01 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I had the riser 2.5 Loop (660mm) on my Clem L and really liked it. Clems > have long (virtual)

[RBW] Re: wtb 55 frame or complete

Andrew, I didn't receive a message...if you're so inclined you might try "stephenmwebster @ yahoo dot com" ...the private messaging on here always baffles me too. Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Fixed Gear and Crank Arm Length

I have ridden fixed on the street and light trails where I used a 165mm crankset (on a RB2 conversion and then on a QB). I generally ride a 172.5 road and 175 mountain arm length. I really enjoyed the different feel the 165 gave me. If you get the chance, I encourage you to try it just for

[RBW] Cowboy Trail NE, Goatheads, tire choice

I'm a Nebraskan, and rode the trail from O'Neil to Norfolk last year. I'd say your marathons will hold up for sure. I didn't encounter any goatheads, but not saying there isn't any. Kansas is a notorious state for those damn things. When I lived down there, I only had a few flats on

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

I adore and prize my Allrounder. It's the last and only Riv I own. The only time I lust for another Riv is the occasional Legolas pang. If a Hunqapillar 650b disc came out it would shoot to the top of my bike desire list. Easily. Rocky descents here in Nevada make it difficult to enjoy

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

"..and that they seem to go hand in hand with the adoption of new standards that make the use of those parts that are so characteristic of Rivendell builds out of the question." How do discs "seem" to do this on a bicycle I've repeatedly described as using all normal Riv parts aside from the

[RBW] Re: wtb 55 frame or complete

I'll be honest, I have a lot of difficulty with Riv sizing despite all the talk about the topic. I tend to want to stick to a TT length in the 55-57 range. Maybe I should have been more specific. PHB of 83 tends to land me on the cusp of two sizes and when I go up, it tends to feel too big.

Re: [RBW] Cowboy Trail NE, Goatheads, tire choice

You don't need tubeless tires to use sealants that effectively prevent goatheads punctures. On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 7:50 PM, WETH wrote: > My son and I plan on riding several of the country's (USA) railtrails this > summer, including the Cowboy Trail in Nebraska. >

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

Switching my Atlantis to disc brakes represents somewhat of a controlled experiment, and I can tell you that if anything changed about the “ride quality” it is undetectable. Perhaps on a road bike with skinny tires it would be different. On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 7:05 AM 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

Again, sure, why not? But that doesn't mean someone else can't look at bicycle braking technologies and decide, with equal validity, why? It may not be a popular decision, it may be seen as "impeding progress" or simply as stubborn. But it doesn't make it wrong. This decision by itself may or

[RBW] WTB - Riv Reader #37

Hi Steve. I have it in PDF form. I could email it to you if you'd like. Someone else may have a hard copy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

On 02/04/2018 02:57 AM, rw1911 wrote: I wrote a big, long response sharing my personal experiences with moving to new tech related to bikes and cars, but in the end, I came to the same place... Why not?  Disc brakes are good.  Maybe they they don't have the character or aesthetics of our

[RBW] Cowboy Trail NE, Goatheads, tire choice

In reading the product description on the Riv site for Little Big Bens, it says they have the KevlarGuard, which could well be enough protection. Schwalbe's most flat resistant would be the Marathon with SmartGuard. You might find them sluggish. I, too, have not gone down the sealant/tubes

[RBW] Re: FS: Woolistic wool jersey from Rivendell

SOLD! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

Alex’s #2. Justin: I never saw the Argo. That’s cool. I think I am out of the box bike range now, the single purpose-ness of the box bike is why I sold mine. Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

I had the Jones on my Appaloosa and loved it. When I bought a Clem L, I moved the bar to that bike and put a Noodle bar on the Joe, but I’m a tinkerer, so I’ll probably go back one of these days. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

I was thinking the very same thing, recently, Chris. My "grail" bike has been a Hunqapillar; but I simply find obtaining one cost prohibitive. Steve "el cheapo" Butcher On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:34:28 PM UTC-6, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: > > I don't really have an interest in disc brakes