Re: [RDA-L] Questions for videodisc reproduction of videocassette

. But, can anyone think of a better designator to propose than 'producer of reproduction'? Deborah Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. (321) 676-1904 mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description

Re: [RDA-L] RDA local printouts

, it is not capable of distribution (although it can be shared) and so isn't it therefore 'produced' rather than 'published'? I also agree with you that we need more specific, separate relationship designators to cover printouts and photocopies as facsimiles. Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. (321) 676-1904

Re: [RDA-L] RDA local printouts

this is, indeed, a grey area, and I would dearly love to know whether there is a PCC task force working on this issue yet. Deborah Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. (321) 676-1904 debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource

Re: [RDA-L] Questions for videodisc reproduction of videocassette

thinking. Deborah Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. (321) 676-1904 debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Carolyn Phillips Sent: Friday, September

Re: [RDA-L] RDA local printouts

, complicated. For example, I think that what Patricia actually has is a printout (reproduction?) of a reproduction of the original. Can anyone at PCC tell us the status of this task force on reproductions? Deborah Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. (321) 676-1904 debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] Duplicate page numbering

are simply interpreting the instructions to say that there are not actually 47 additional pages, and so they will not list them in Extent. But I agree that it would be useful if they added a note about the numbering. Deborah Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. (321) 676-1904 debo...@marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] Duplicate page numbering

pagings), with an explanatory note. Deborah Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. (321) 676-1904 debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: J. McRee Elrod [mailto:m...@slc.bc.ca] Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:58 AM To: debo...@marcofquality.com Cc: RDA-L@listserv.lac

Re: [RDA-L] I am puzzled...can you help with this children's picture book?

with this, but I don't think it made it over as an LC-PCC PS, as far as I can see. The issue of whether the illustrator is also a collaborator (as 'artist') or 'just the illustrator', is another topic altogether; and still unresolved, at least in my mind. Hope this helps, Deborah Deborah

Re: [RDA-L] Capitalization in 2.9.4.4

an aberration in the 'sentence capitalization' guidelines. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA

Re: [RDA-L] Capitalization in 2.9.4.4

data also. Deborah P.S. It is good to know about A.7B1 after all these years (how did I miss that??) but I still wonder what the rationale was for this capitalization, given the way it was meant to be displayed, in a string. - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo

Re: [RDA-L] Date given in an incomplete form

(see 2.20.6.3). Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of L'Écuyer-Coelho

Re: [RDA-L] honouree vs. honoree

for yet another important piece of the puzzle to be in place (a Registry) so that we can move the RDA dream closer to reality. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access

Re: [RDA-L] Main series subseries

in separate 830. So: 490$aChamps. Essais 500$aNumbering in the main series: 988 830 0 $aChamps (Flammarion (Firm)) ;$v988 830 0 $aChamps (Flammarion (Firm)).$pEssais Both 830 will verify against the NACO Authority File. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ

Re: [RDA-L] Still doing edition statements for large print?

the source) to fulfill the principle of sufficiency (selection of an appropriate resource), since there is no other element appropriate for providing this information; as per the optional addition at 2.5.1.4 . Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo

Re: [RDA-L] Still doing edition statements for large print?

- - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 2:39

Re: [RDA-L] Still doing edition statements for large print?

source. This will be enough to meet the principles of differentiation (0.4.3.1) and sufficiency (0.4.3.2), and will be enough to prevent machine record mergers. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From

Re: [RDA-L] RDA data entry form

You might take a look at RIMMF, a free product (subject to a CC license) that demonstrates a possible GUI approach for pure RDA data entry. URL: http://www.marcofquality.com/wiki/rimmf http://www.marcofquality.com/wiki/rimmf - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc

Re: [RDA-L] 7.16.1.3: Can page numbers be on expression level?

Excellent point. This was raised with CC:DA to be brought to the attention of the JSC. See: http://wikis.ala.org/ccda/index.php/6._Bibliographies_as_content_of_an_Expression Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original

[RDA-L] RIMMF2 : inputting RDA data without MARC

- - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] No date of publication, first printing

“Description based on first printing, 2013”. Yup, dates are tricky. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource

Re: [RDA-L] No date of publication, first printing

not crystal clear. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC

Re: [RDA-L] SOR from copyright statement

to determine that indicating this responsibility is valid, and not simply assume that the holder of the copyright is actually responsible for the copyrighted material. Hope this helps, Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com

[RDA-L] No date of publication, first printing

- - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] illustrations (black and white)

/jsc1306.pdf ] Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designators for related expressions, works etc for a music score

, it is the first subfield, the first word is capitalized, and the subfield ends with a colon. EXAMPLE 700 1# $iLibretto based on (work):$aShakespeare, William,$d1564-1616.$tOthello. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo

Re: [RDA-L] Use of brackets in RDA records

/) a publisher, distributer, or what? Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: J. McRee Elrod [mailto:m...@slc.bc.ca] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:16 PM To: debo...@marcofquality.com Cc: RDA-L@listserv.lac

Re: [RDA-L] Use of brackets in RDA records

that a distributer is also the publisher, or that a printer is also the publisher, or that the author is also the publisher-just enter them as they are stated and leave it at that. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] RDA 2.8 through 2.10, and Core status

and others have had this same question, it would be good if the wording for these instructions could be clarified. Who wants to suggest a proposal to CC:DA? Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource

Re: [RDA-L] What is the appropriate RDA element for a term like Board book or Scented book

$a) Object: Sound effects books (655$a) Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description

Re: [RDA-L] Recording alternate content and physical forms -- Bibframe

as we have to (if only it were true) use MARC elements the way that MARC defines those elements. - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access

Re: [RDA-L] Recording alternate content and physical forms -- Bibframe

make RDA records using AACR thinking. I agree that we cannot expect uniformity in this learning period, but that does not mean that we should not strive for it wherever possible. - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original

Re: [RDA-L] What is the appropriate RDA element for a term like Board book or Scented book

) I'd also like to enter the 'shape' attribute somewhere, but can't figure out where-Note on Dimensions of Manifestation, perhaps. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] What is the appropriate RDA element for a term like Board book or Scented book

## $aResource is a children's pop-up book with sound effects. Even though such a note is not Core, it does seem important for identification or selection (and for copy cataloging selection too) Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] What is the appropriate RDA element for a term like Board book or Scented book

: Scent? Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod Sent: Thursday, May 09

[RDA-L] What is the appropriate RDA element for a term like Board book or Scented book

/elements. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] What is the appropriate RDA element for a term like Board book or Scented book

instead of free-text, the better it will be. Hmm, now I'm wondering whether these terms might not turn out to be Objects (yet to be released) http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp14 Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo

Re: [RDA-L] Periods in titles

element (rather than separate elements), I think the underlying reasoning of this instruction still holds true for these 'part' separators. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource

Re: [RDA-L] recording non-diacritic characters in the title

LC PCC PS for 1.7.5, Point 4. Exception 2: ignore symbols indicating trademark - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access

Re: [RDA-L] relationship designator and in cooperation with

. However, while we are in MARC, we do have to add the element term, because our MARC label (700) is not specific enough to indicate the relationship. So I would suggest: =700 1\$aBarbarini, Giorgio,$econtributor. My interpretation. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah

Re: [RDA-L] recording production statements

'use' for the data (Statement of Responsibility vs Producer's Name, etc.) Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L

Re: [RDA-L] 2.4.3.3 Parallel statements of responsibility

the terms in the same language together) is from ISBD2007 p. 91 Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource

[RDA-L] Dust jacket as a Source of Information

official word, or any thoughts on this? Thanks, Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] dimension of discs and end punctuations of 264 field

) Hope this helps, Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC

Re: [RDA-L] Dust jacket as a Source of Information

; which is a very good thing, as you point out. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access

Re: [RDA-L] Dust jacket as a Source of Information

Thanks Hideyuki. Maybe LC could add this interpretation to the LC PCC PS for 2.4.2 (Other Sources of Information), if we asked them, very nicely. In the meantime, I will proceed under the assumption that interpretation is shared by all. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc

Re: [RDA-L] Dust jacket as a Source of Information

this won’t be official until the change is published, this summer) Thanks, John. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description

Re: [RDA-L] recording production statements

- - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 4:55 PM To: RDA-L

Re: [RDA-L] recording production statements

. -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Deborah Fritz Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 3:16 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] recording production statements Chris, If you decide

Re: [RDA-L] Publication date/copyright date

. So, I would recommend: 264 #1 $c [2014] 264 #4 $c (c)2014 Adding the Copyright Date in this case, would help to explain the choice of the supplied Date of Publication Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message

Re: [RDA-L] Publication date/copyright date

. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Will Evans Rules or no rules, shouldn't

Re: [RDA-L] AACR2 compatible records--Personal reply

to their records looking either pure AACR, or pure RDA, or a total hybrid mix. Believe me, I struggled with this, but I am resigned to making MARC Report less rigid to accommodate the new reality. Sigh Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] Question about edition statements

it inside square brackets. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L

Re: [RDA-L] RDA and the Title Proper

: emergency traffic control for responders This latter is quite different to what we do currently, so I would welcome confirmation that I have interpreted this correctly, or dissent if I have erred. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] Technical report dates and publication

, since they obviously pondered the question at one point. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource

Re: [RDA-L] Relator code and term punctucation

understand these issues! Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] Relator code and term punctucation

. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Elizabeth O'Keefe Sent: Wednesday, March 13

Re: [RDA-L] Coding subsequent creators in MARC 21 Bibliographic

- - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Ed Jones Sent: Tuesday, March 12

Re: [RDA-L] Relator code and term punctucation

- - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of M. E. Sent

Re: [RDA-L] S-o-R/RDA 2.4.1.4

as a type of qualifier for the person. If this is an acceptable approach, then I think it would be very helpful if the JSC could add an example showing this, under 2.4.1.4. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] (OCoLC)829311087

can invoke the permission to come up with our own term. I'm not going to take a stab at a suggestion for this resource, however. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] Use of ISBD punctuation with RDA. And a workshop.

- - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of John Hostage Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 2:23 PM To: RDA-L

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

as a designator at the Expression level. I hope this will bring us back into agreement, Mac. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access

Re: [RDA-L] Multiple identities named on same manifestation

Adam, Thanks very much for pointing this out. I thought I'd checked the examples, but I missed that one. I have asked whether this could be clarified somewhat at 6.27.1.7 Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

-the editors I hope I am not on the wrong track with any of this. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants--Pre-existing poem

/No? Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants--Pre-existing poem

See, that’s where the real fun in “WEMI” really comes in. - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description

Re: [RDA-L] Multiple identities named on same manifestation

be missing. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Adam L. Schiff Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:56 PM [snip] The name in the 100 should be whichever one is the result from applying 6.27.1.7

Re: [RDA-L] Carrier type Flipchart

with this, until I thought of it this way, so I hope this approach might help. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L

Re: [RDA-L] RDA dtst t + a 260/264 muse on training question

is a copyright date. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of MCCUTCHEON, SEVIM Sent

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

LC PCC PS correctly [DF:] Yes, if you use the copyright date to supply the date in 264_1, then adding the copyright date is optional, but I think it is a good thing to add it, as long as the copyright date is straightforward. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc

Re: [RDA-L] Language of supplied place of publication?

listed above in that rule. Therefore you will have to decide what is the most appropriate language and script for recording the Place of Publication as a supplied element. Deborah P.S. I searched on supplied data to find this. - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

264 is not mentioned in the mapping appendices in the Toolkit because the those appendices are in the process of being updated. - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] Title proper vs. other title information ...

=lcpschp2target=lcps2-11461#lc ps2-11461 target=lcps2-11461#lcps2-11461 - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

anything about needing square brackets for any data; so it is good thing that the LC-PCC PS for 1.7.1 has the instruction quoted by Bob (although it would be easier to find if it was linked to 1.10) Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo

Re: [RDA-L] Contents Notes [was Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?]

.html shows that same relationship is possible at the Expression Level. So, I would say that you *can* enter the Contents note for the French translation with the Expression data for that translation. Yes? No? Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc

Re: [RDA-L] Sources of information for other title information

and the title page, and the cover also has what RDA will have us enter as a Variant title, so why not call it that in the note that explains its source? But perhaps that is just me being too picky. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] Sources of information for other title information

Mulling over 2.3.4.2, for myself, I see it says: Take other title information from the same source as the title proper (see 2.3.2.2). OK, that is a very direct instruction--take it from the same source. Then 2.3.2.2 says: Take the title proper from the preferred source of information for

Re: [RDA-L] Sources of information for other title information

Janet Davis [Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:11 AM] said: Not an answer, sorry, but we've recently come across a very similar issue with statements of responsibility. -- I agree with Janet's reasoning: - 2.4.2.2: Take statements of responsibility relating to title proper

Re: [RDA-L] Sources of information for other title information

, of course, we get an LC-PCC PS or a PS from some other National Library to clarify this for everyone. What fun, indeed! Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource

Re: [RDA-L] Sources of information for other title information

Deborah Fritz: Heidrun, I only used the parallel title note as an example. So as long as the 2.20.2.3. note can be applied to Other Title Information, I think we can use any wording we like for this situation (I just liked the parallel title wording) So, can we use 2.20.2.3 for a note

Re: [RDA-L] I'm taillights

Congratulations Mike, on your imminent freedom. Enjoy thinking about the epic sweep of reggae history, rather than the minutiae of cataloging. But your calming approach to our discussions has been appreciated. Walk good, Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality

Re: [RDA-L] Recording Statements of Responsibility Relating to Series

1_ $a Snyder, Maria V. $t Healer series ; $v 2. Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 Thomas Brenndorfer wrote: RDA Chapters 6.27 to 6.31 cover all the elements that are used for authorized access points

Re: [RDA-L] punctuation in 511 notes

that has come up repeatedly, and this might be a good time to get rid of it once and for all. To eliminate confusion, perhaps this example could simply be fast-tracked for editing, to illustrate the ISBD practice? Deborah - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] Date of publication not identified DtSt, Dates

with 264 _1 . $c [date of publication not identified], and guessed dates in the 008: s200u, ; but I don't think that is correct. Deborah - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] Additional work required by RDA

*do* list a carrier type for other contents? Deborah - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access

Re: [RDA-L] Date of publication not identified DtSt, Dates

- - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Gene Fieg Sent: Tuesday, October 23

Re: [RDA-L] Date of publication not identified DtSt, Dates

], and [date of distribution not identified], and you have no date of manufacture either, then enter [date of manufacture not identified] , for a single-part resource (2.10.6.6 http://access.rdatoolkit.org/2.10.6.6.html ) Deborah - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

mind, it is *really* important to record this information, if you want to be able to, someday, reliably machine map the data in the new RDA/MARC records you are creating into a new encoding format that is used for data recorded under RDA principles. Deborah - - - Deborah Fritz

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

element name 'Publisher' (21.3 http://access.rdatoolkit.org/21.3.html ) is not explicit in MARC 710. Deborah - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access

Re: [RDA-L] Question about example in RDA 18.5.1.3

in the production of a motion picture Deborah - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo...@marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com

Re: [RDA-L] Question about example in RDA 18.5.1.3

My mistake, sorry, you are correct Jonathan, 'screenwriter' would be at the Work level, in the situation we are discussing, not the Expression level, so what we are missing is, indeed, a way to record the composer as a contributor (not creator) for a _work_ - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo

Re: [RDA-L] Date of work for feature films

Use 046$k for the Date of Work element: http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ad046.html So: 130 _0 |a Ocean's eleven (Motion picture : 2001) 046 __ |k 2001 380 __ |a Motion picture Deborah - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com debo

Re: [RDA-L] Comparison table of extent terms

: unmediated Carrier: sheet Extent: 1 drawing As I say, I might be quite wrong with these examples. It would be great to see some more 'official' examples of how these elements relate to each other. Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax

Re: [RDA-L] Comparison table of extent terms

Ah, good point; so then it would be: Content: cartographic image Content: text Media needed to access content: unmediated Carrier: volume Extent: 1 atlas (68 pages) -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 -Original

Re: [RDA-L] Identifying RDA records

on that. Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904

Re: [RDA-L] [sic] ?

of England Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com/ Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 _ From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA

Re: [RDA-L] latin, the dead language

for identification or access. -- So, [sic] and [i.e.] are both out, but we havent' lost useful information for our users, just moved it. Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 -Original

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging playaways

check the registry and match on 'variant' terms? And, if so, when will that become an integral part of our cataloging procedures? Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com http://www.marcofquality.com/ Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 On Friday

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging playaways

please, without breaking machine matching any worse than it already is. Thanks, Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description

Re: [RDA-L] Linked data

need more granluarity, not less. Deborah -- Deborah Fritz MARC Database Consultant The MARC of Quality www.marcofquality.com Voice/Fax: (321) 676-1904 -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA

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