On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:40:41 -0400
cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
Would it be possible for you to post a link or other reference for that
sodium nitrite info? Forgive me for saying so, but I can't help thinking
it sounds a lot like the results of so many studies funded by big
corporations these
I don't think it is likely that true CS can accumulate in your system,
or that if it did it would cause blue moons or argyria. As far as I
know, the bluish discoloration some people report is caused by silver
chloride, which can result when salt or baking soda is used as a
conductive starter to
chloride from using salt to make the CS would
just make it worse, but I think some silver chloride happens in the
body, and certainly would form in the blood, which is salty.
sol
Indi wrote:
I don't think it is likely that true CS can accumulate in your
system, or that if it did it would cause
Wow, that's a lot of probiotic (and a lot of CS).
I probably should have been more clear; I'm not saying
that people are untruthful about how much CS they take, just that often
what they are taking is not what they think it is.
And I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, BTW.
Perhaps it was
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:50:05 GMT
craehow...@juno.com craehow...@juno.com wrote:
If I did the CS only I could go on a months vacation and
not worry about that little room.
Forgive me being so dense; I missed what you meant there. If I
understand correctly you're saying that for someone who
we can. Thanks for
the pointer. :)
On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:45:53 -5
M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:
Indi wrote:
Also, those reading my words should know I have been mostly
unsuccessful at trying to get what I'd call accurate, unbiased
medical advice about CS and other
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:46:30 -0700
Arnold Beland abela...@comcast.net wrote:
Mike D. writes:
Blanket statements that particulate is good and ionic is bad are
likely as incomplete and inaccurate as their opposite numbers.
Their genesis is invariably the profit motive.
No, not
On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 05:14:20 -0500
Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com wrote:
MRSA is not as bad as everyone has been led to believe.
Apparently you haven't met anyone with a really troublesome MRSA.
It is serious enough to have rendered me bed-ridden for weeks at a time
on and off since 2002 --
Rudimentary is the word, all right!
On the website he says, Colloidal silver and sulfur mix is the best
antibiotic known to man and it is so easy and almost free to make it by
the gallons with 2 little pieces of silver. If it be a silver coin,
sterling silver table utensil, or a piece of silver
. The above is easy enough to
verify, and Google books is pretty awesome for this sort of thing.
On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:57:36 GMT
larry tankersley la...@webtv.net wrote:
Hi Indi the following from your post You are correct that silver
ions will react with the hydrochloric acid
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 04:25:43PM -0400, Marshall Dudley wrote:
Silvadene is Silver Sulfadiazine which is basically a soluble
combination of silver and a sulfa drug, NOT Silver Sulfide which is an
insoluble silver compound better known as tarnish.
Ah I see, thanks for clearing that up
in the truck.
Come to work with me for half a day and you will change your mind. If you go
into a nursing home or hospital without it you can easily come out with it!!,
Debbie
--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Indi indule...@comcast.net wrote:
From: Indi indule...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: CSMRSA and CS
sick I always used to say, I refuse to be ill, and that actually
seemed to work great for me for 42 years. Then I got MRSA and *everything*
changed quite drastically. If it happened to me, it could happen to anyone.
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 02:05:13AM -0500, Wayne Fugitt wrote:
Morning Indi
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 07:03:48AM -1000, Sharlene Miyamura wrote:
Once you have MRSA, does it continue to stay in the body forever? My
aunt has it and it seems to come and go.
Depends on the person and/or the strain of MRSA, from what I've seen.
Mine is still here, but appears to be kept
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 04:13:48PM -0500, Norton, Steve wrote:
I came across this on another forum:
http://www.tbyil.com/CS%20Chart.htm
My question is: If home brewed CS is primarily ionic particles and ionic
silver is individual silver atoms and CS effectiveness is directly
related to
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 02:17:30PM -0500, Norton, Steve wrote:
Just so you know, it is ionic silver that actually works - not
colloidal silver. The value of having the silver initially in
colloidal form is to get it past the stomach acids in the digestion
process. Colloidal silver converts
Ode Coyote wrote:
At 10:49 AM 10/6/2008 -0400, you wrote:
At 05:47 PM 10/5/2008 -0400, you wrote:
Typically, if you have real CS (i.e. *not* ionic silver) there
will be a small amount of ionic silver.
This can be mostly eliminated by
exposure to sunlight though.
## How
LOL! It was going on 7 years ago, right? I barely remember the
episode, but the report as written has all the hallmarks of one who
lost their argument because of their own inability to behave in a
civilized fashion.
I only rarely ban anyone, and I've never been an accomplice to Frank
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 10:19:57PM -0400, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
On 10/8/2008 5:52:17 PM, M. G. Devour (mdev...@eskimo.com) wrote:
And if we can keep the incidental mention of Christ and Christian from
becoming a discussion of religion, as opposed to
Dee's aerobic
oxygen, I will be
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 03:52:16PM -0400, Bruce Anderson wrote:
Ode;
I haven't had much algebra and that a long ago, but, If A+B=C and A+C=
B, then A=B=C then all is zero. Don't know of any other integer value
that would fit.
Bruce A.
You are correct. Not algebra though, it's just
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 07:28:52AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote:
What mehod did you use to verify that it was still ionic and unchanged?
## EC meter.
Colloids don't conduct electricity.
Ode
That is incorrect. Even tap water will conduct electricity.
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Someone asks Ken:
What mehod did you use to verify that it was still ionic and
unchanged?
Ken wrote:
## EC meter.
Colloids don't conduct electricity.
Indi replies:
That is incorrect. Even tap water will conduct
.
People suffer and die needlessly over it.
Fortunately, with CS I have definitely stumbled upon something that is
working. I wish I knew more about the why, but how can I argue with success?
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On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 01:29:29PM +0100, Dee wrote:
Well personally, I like all things fantastic and unearthly like
thunderstorms. I see them as wars between witches and wizards, titans
etc.,
That's very fanciful, but not really weird. Though personally, I don't find
the majesty of
Meat eating can cause really bad acne in teens sometimes.
I have seen very bad acne completely vanish on a vegetarian diet --
though I know many people would probably rather have the acne, but
I think just giving up red meat may make a big difference.
Also junk food, steroids, or stimulants
with your premises nor
your conclusion on this one.
I'll have to stand by my original statement: You have not come close to proving
that your ionic silver solution was unchanged after five years, and frankly
it would be a miracle if you did end up with that result.
indi
At 02:33 PM 10/10/2008
That's very good advice, I'd forgotton about tumeric.
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 01:29:50PM -0500, Dan Nave wrote:
Also found this, about using turmeric for boils and acne.
People are taking a teaspoon of turmeric in water, or better yet for
taste, a few capsules with water, several times a
steel was made from around 1100 to 1700 CE, and it is now known
to contain carbon nanotubes. Something to do with the process used to
manufacture it. The more things change...
indi
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 07:52:48PM -0400, Faith Gagne wrote:
Hi Bob.
This group, The Center for Food Safety
It works pretty well for psychosomatic illness, but (IMO) not all illness is
psychosomatic. If it were, then it would be impossible for any substance to
ever
affect our health without our permission on some level. We could simply
believe
our way out of side-effects from bad habits, chemical
observation; I'm just trying to
provide some perspective.
Peace,
indi
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 08:07:41AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote:
At 01:04 PM 10/13/2008 -0400, you wrote:
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:08:32PM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote:
If the container is non reactive
That would have
to make
unsubstantiated claims. Data is data. Either one has it or one doesn't.
:)
indi
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:45:05PM +1030, Neville wrote:
- Original Message - From: Indi indule...@comcast.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 2:53 AM
Subject: Re
nevillem...@bigpond.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: CSblue moons revisited
- Original Message - From: Indi indule...@comcast.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: CSblue moons revisited
gets my goat when people make extravagant
claims they cannot back, because that can only hurt us all.
Again, apologies to Ode and anyone else I may have offended.
I hope that this clears things up, regarding my intentions.
Best Regards,
indi
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 08:44:47AM +0100, Dee wrote
the (already quite unclear) waters.
Okay, now: I'm stepping away from the soap box, and will not speak on this
further
unless replied to directly. Only you can decide what's important to you.
Sincerely,
indi
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as guinea pigs and as amatuers; unless you
are a doctor, medical researcher, or chemist, you cannot honestly go much
beyond presenting anecdotal evidence, and you certainly cannot* make claims
about a given solution being unchanged after years of storage.
I feel so misunderstood now
indi
*Well you
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 12:21:22PM -0500, Norton, Steve wrote:
I apologize iin advance for getting in this issue but are you familiar with
the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MTBI)? While you cannot determine someones
personality type from postings you can get some indications. Indi, I would
the soap box, and will not speak on
this further unless replied to directly. Only you can decide what's
important to you.
Sincerely,
indi
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properly qualified anecdotal
evidence (properly qualified is where we got at odds). I have accepted
your story as anecdotal evidence, and will bear it in mind. I'm not calling
you a liar, if that's what you think. I'm just a skeptical person, which (IMO)
is only sensible, after all.
indi
- Original Message - From: Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: CSblue moons revisited
Dear indi:
Thank you very much for your efforts. I think, after all, that you
are right about anecdotal evidence. I
their meters no matter how inaccurate they may be. It's only the
minority who may want to know more 'science' of it but the majority just
want to make it, learn how to make it properly, get an idea of what it is
they are making, and then take it. I know where you are coming from
though Indi
side effects from EIS are rare after all, so long as we follow a
few well known precautions. The worst horror story I've seen so far on this
list is blue moons, so really I feel quite relieved.
Cheers,
indi
[NOTE: comcast was destroying the continuity of this list for me by dropping
random
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:07:24 -5
M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:
Hi group, Indi, Ken,
The current debate (happily, I can still use that word to describe
the discussion; thank you for staying civil, guys...) about alleged
absolute statements and proof seems to have originated in a few
and I have no way of knowing if all the email I sent
got through. I think it was Comcast's fault, but am not sure...
Cheers,
indi
I KNEW it-*^%*@ /Comcast WAS acting up again!
I went about 36 hours with no email from this list, and probably
other sources as well, judging by far
not imply causation has
been more than adequately proven. OTOH, where there is smoke there is
fire does work a lot of times, too. :)
Just my $.02...
indi
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M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:
I wrote:
Next, if you leave the lid off you no longer have a closed system.
Distilled water (and your CS), will absorb carbon dioxide from
the air and form (I think it is...) carbolic acid.
Indi replies:
Yes
that. The planet's
over-populated anyway, right? I'm healthy; screw them, right?
But for those of us who do care, anti-intellectualism is not the answer.
indi
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, producing silver nitrate.
I have seen some vague references to dangerous nitrogen compounds
being a risk of the HVAC method, but this was on vendors' sites.
Do you know anything more specific about that?
TIA,
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not
mistaken one can taste and smell that, so a person wouldn't be likely
to ingest much.
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:11:33 -0500
Ruth Bertella berte...@lfdcbham.com wrote:
Thanks, Ruth. :)
LOL and welcome to the loony bin!!!
Ruth
From: Indi
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: CSblue moons revisited
Maybe part
by a combination of Big Pharma, unscrupulous vendors, and
crackpots making extravagant claims that keeps the virtues of CS a
secret most will never learn.
Or at least, that's how I see it...
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:27:50 -0500
Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com wrote:
I know which Rooster can pull a Wagon, Before I hitch him up.
I wish I could get a rooster to pull a wagon, that would be a lot
cheaper than putting gas in my tractor!
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have just taken this whole discussion the
wrong way, frankly.
The bottom line here is, we probably both fall into
the know enough to be dangerous category anyway. IMHO. :)
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:15:00 -0400
indi indi.sha...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:42:59 -0400
Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:
If all you have is silver, water and it's various combinations,
That's rather large if, and you keep choosing to ignore it. If one
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:33:08 +1030
Neville nevillem...@bigpond.com wrote:
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From: indi indi.sha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing
Quote:
[If CS becomes popular enough, we
Thanks. I imagine it'd be hard to ingest much of that without knowing
something wasn't quite right. Anyway, I am careful to avoid arcing.
BTW, I am a woman named Indulekha Sharpe, not some guy named Mike Monet.
Cheers,
indi
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:02:38 -0400
cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
One
point. What are they
going to do, raid our homes and confiscate our generators? Make silver
a controlled substance? That'd be awfully hard to do...
indi
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:)
Thanks,
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voltage in those was
generally 600V or so), so I know a bit about that.
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:16:22 -0500
Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
On Oct 20, 2008, at 11:39 AM, indi wrote:
Seriously, it may make a vast difference if one cares about the
well-being of people in general. Like my Mother, for whom the
doctor said so is right up
can get control of their
quality of life without pharmaceuticals, and that there's a
pharmaceutical answer for everything. If it was all just psychological,
then why push the meds?
indi
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:48:15 -0400
Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
indi wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:30:36 -0400
Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
Not quite sure what you mean by that. Arcing produces both NO2
(nitrogen dioxide) and NO (nitrogen oxide
make it at home. It would affect small manufacturers, who would not be
able to compete with Big Pharma, but the power of big corporations is a
whole separate issue (and a whole separate discussion group, no doubt).
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that word for me, isn't it?
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of what? has not been answered. This is not to say that
I think anyone is making an inferior solution, merely that I want to
know more.
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:34:47 -5
M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:
Right now, I'd say Indi is the one on the hot seat! grin Welcome,
ma'am!
Thanks. Yes, I feel a bit on the hot seat with a couple of people here.
:)
Meanwhile, folks coming here for basic help and direction should
.
Thanks,
indi
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:08:55 -0700
Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote:
Hi Indi,
Why don't you *make* some and then you will have something to compare
with something else. It is very easy, here is how:
http://www.silvermedicine.org/basicgenerator.html
a cute, little
bunny. I even catch spiders in the house and release them somewhere out
of my way. But if you're going to eat animal flesh, hunting is
definitely less cruel than factory farming. No doubt healthier, too.
indi
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Where do you buy your lab quality DW?
Cheers,
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:02:18 -0500
Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
I am not ignoring your point. Degrees of accuracy in my experience,
range from good enough to several decimal places in a calculation
though, so no doubt we have
fewer salad eating pests. My biggest problem has been that hive beetles
destroyed my bees' grubs and stole all the honey. I'm afraid I have
resorted to violence against those hive beetles... I hated to do that,
but I had to draw the line somewhere.
Cheers,
indi
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Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
Ladybug Roundup!
Sounds festive, LOL!
indi
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to agree) that the absolute
is the realm of spirit. But one thing for sure, there is absolutely no
such thing as an absolutely pure material substance.
But I do insist on . silver electrodes, and consider that good
enough.
:)
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or if their need was more light duty (like maybe it got them through
flu season or helped with a cold or something).
Thanks,
indi
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, there is a
complex nerve center near the heart which some studies suggest may be
as important as the brain for what we think of as human consciousness.
Cheers,
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:40:15 -0500
Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com wrote:
Good Evening Indy,
At 12:09 PM 10/22/2008, you wrote:
My
Twenty-seven hives! What's your secret? I have struggled to keep
just one.
indi
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:00:39 -0500
Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com wrote:
Evening Dee,
At 02:30 PM 10/22/2008, you wrote:
Some insects are endangered (Wayne?) without insects the rest of us
are doomed. dee
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:55:00 -0500
Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote:
I believe that it had been stored in a kitchen window for 5 years.
(grin)
http://www.instantrimshot.com/
:)
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Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
On Oct 22, 2008, at 7:20 PM, indi wrote:
I time mine manually (and stir it manually) as well. 14 gauge .
silver wire electrodes, and a ventec neon sign power transformer,
which is plugged into a 3 amp
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:59:36 -0400
Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote:
Dear Indi: I am fascinated that you use CS to stop the pain of
cellulitis because I actually did not know that cellulitis hurts.
Cellulitis is *very* painful (often people confuse it with
cellulite, but it's a totally
Cow, Breakstone
Farms),and sometimes I make my own. Also kefir is very good. But I'm one
of those weirdos who actually likes the natural taste of yogurt
(and tofu, too).
Get well quickly,
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know for sure...
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:)
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Good point about the text medium, and I like your advice about dealing
with it, too. I will try to follow that from now on. I know I can be
somewhat impatient, but I'm not nearly as grumpy as some of my emails
make me look.
Thanks for setting such a good example for us.
Cheers,
indi
On Wed
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:08:29 -0400
Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:
Game warden? Sometimes you wonder what they taste like.
Now that is too funny, LOL!
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in the ears. Just tilt your head and let it bubble in
there for a few minutes on each side. Maybe it'll help with the flu,
too. I'd forgotten all about it, as it's been a while.
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Full strength of the drugstore kind (actually that's a 1 or 2%
solution you get at the drug store). I know there are stronger varieties
some people use to lighten their hair, don't use that!
:)
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Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote:
Thanks indi
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:47:24 -0500
Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com wrote:
I make sure, they feel pain, when I want them to feel pain.
wince
Digging yourself a bit of a hole there, aren't you?
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loved me. :)
The painless way takes a lot of patience,
but to me it's well worth it.
Cheers,
indi
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Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com wrote:
I make sure, they feel pain, when I want them to feel pain.
wince
Digging yourself a bit of a hole
. Recently, Dave posted about this and his
success using Niacin for improving circulation.
Thank you Dan, I will have to look into that.
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Thanks very much for posting that, Ruth.
I will try it soon as I get a chance.
Cheers,
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because I wouldn't expect it would
penetrate oils and wax to go where it needs to go. Maybe mixed
with H2O2, as someone else mentioned.
Cheers,
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(if it worked), so I thought the claims of nuclear waste into clean
energy might be at the very least rather optimistic.
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indi
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that
takes a lot of energy right up front. I suspect it would not
be practical, or Bechtel would have jumped on it.
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Probably if the silver-list-request address is down, you should try to
reach mike directly at mdev...@eskinmo.com to let him know.
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indi
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:46:28 -0700
jlgregel jlgre...@hctc.com wrote:
Thanks Faith...
That's the way it's set up on the homepage when you click
Thanks, Malcolm.
Years ago I tried niacin and experienced a good deal of physical
discomfort, so I will probably try a small amount of niacinamide and see
what happens.
Cheers,
indi
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:48:34 -0700
Malcolm s...@asis.com wrote:
Hi Faith,
for that you can take a form
appreciate the concern.
:)
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indi
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:08:06 -0400
Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote:
My browser could not find this address. Is anyone else having this
problem?
I noticed the URL was malformed; experimenting a bit I found it here:
http://homodiet.netfirms.com/otherssay/royalrife.htm
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indi
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indi
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From: indi indi.sha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: The Healing Universe Rife links
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:08:06 -0400
Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote:
My browser
Thanks to this discussion of Royal Rife, I've been reading quite a bit
about him and his work online today. I also found some info about a Dr.
Max Gerson, who apparently was also discredited by the
authorities (for curing cancer mainly with diet, and juices).
And *now* I see why some people are
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