Re: Problem with right-clicking on a Google map

2009-08-13 Thread Ray_Net

DoctorBill wrote:

Paul Hartman wrote:

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Johnno...@nospam.org wrote:
With Internet Explorer I can right-click on a Google Map and it pops 
up a
special Google menu which has a very useful (to me) choice at the 
bottom:
What's here?. Clicking on that returns the latitude and longitude 
of the
selected point in the Google search box. I've been told by other 
users that

this also works with Firefox 3.5.


In your preferences do you have it set to disallow sites to change or
disable your context menu?



Just butting in - how do you do that ?

have no idea where to go in Preferences to do that

DoctorBill


May be ... it's a preference in Google Map, not in SM.
(just an idea)
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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 Compatibility with MailWasher 6.51 (Free)

2009-08-13 Thread Martin Feitag
Frog schrieb:
 I checked the MailWasher Web page and learned that the free version of
 this software is now MailWasher 6.51.  It indicates on the web page that
 it is compatible with Thunderbird 2 (no mention of SeaMonkey is
 indicated on this web page).  Is it likely that this MailWasher 6.51
 software is compatible with SeaMonkey 1.1.17 software? 
Yes, Seamonkey 1.1.17 and TB2 are very similar.


 Additionally, I
 have downloaded the MailWasher 6.51 (free) software to my computer and
 need to know how best to load it on my system (if anybody has experience
 with this software).  Do I remove the existing software (via Add/Remove)
 or simply let the updated version load over the existing version.  I
 can't find the answer to this question on the software makers web page
 (must have Pro version or the paid for version of MailWasher before I
 can get this information from the software maker).  My reason for
 wanting to be careful of my actions here is my present version has been
 trained to recognize what I consider good messages and what I consider
 to be spam.  I would like to maintain this established training in my
 new updated version of MailWasher 6.51.

It's probably a good idea to just update the existing installation then.
As the major-Version didn't change this shouldn't be much of a problem.
regards

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Re: Problem with right-clicking on a Google map

2009-08-13 Thread Martin Feitag
Ray_Net schrieb:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Johnno...@nospam.org wrote:
 With Internet Explorer I can right-click on a Google Map and it pops
 up a
 special Google menu which has a very useful (to me) choice at the
 bottom:
 What's here?. Clicking on that returns the latitude and longitude
 of the
 selected point in the Google search box. I've been told by other
 users that
 this also works with Firefox 3.5.

 In your preferences do you have it set to disallow sites to change or
 disable your context menu?


 Just butting in - how do you do that ?

 have no idea where to go in Preferences to do that

 DoctorBill
 
 May be ... it's a preference in Google Map, not in SM.
 (just an idea)

It's in the Seamonkey Preferences, Advanced = ScriptsPlugins

If there's a site which wants to prevent you from downloading a picture
or similar by right-clicking or so, just turn it off again.
For google maps it needs to be allowed.
regards

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Re: Tab won't delete - get error message

2009-08-13 Thread Martin Feitag
DoctorBill schrieb:
 Every now and then, I cannot delete a TAB.
 
 I get this error message and OK does nothing...click on it.
 
 http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i86/DoctorBill_SCC/Miscellaneous/?action=viewcurrent=SMTabError.jpg
 
 
 Am I doing something wrong (as usual)?
 
 DoctorBIll

picture doesn't work for me, just a white page.
regards

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Re: print problem

2009-08-13 Thread Martin Feitag
Norvin schrieb:
 Recently when I try to print an email and I hit 'print' and then I get
 the small screen asking how many copies, etc, I hit the 'OK' and it
 would print. Now for some reason (?) after I hit the 'print' I get the
 screen but it is in the lower right section of the email screen and the
 'OK' button is not in sight and I have to raise the print screen to get
 to the ok button. Not a big problem for me but the wife is not
 understanding why it is not working like it use to, and I guess I am to.
 Any suggestions on how to move it back into the middle of the monitor to
 make life easier for my wife.

Try to delete the file localstore.rdf in your profile*, SM will forget
about all window-positions then. Rearrange all windows as needed afterwards.
regards

Martin

* http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/

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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 Compatibility with MailWasher 6.51 (Free)

2009-08-13 Thread BeeNeR
On or about 8/13/2009 5:39 AM, Martin Feitag typed the following:
 Frog schrieb:
 I checked the MailWasher Web page and learned that the free version of
 this software is now MailWasher 6.51.  It indicates on the web page that
 it is compatible with Thunderbird 2 (no mention of SeaMonkey is
 indicated on this web page).  Is it likely that this MailWasher 6.51
 software is compatible with SeaMonkey 1.1.17 software? 
 Yes, Seamonkey 1.1.17 and TB2 are very similar.
 
 
 Additionally, I
 have downloaded the MailWasher 6.51 (free) software to my computer and
 need to know how best to load it on my system (if anybody has experience
 with this software).  Do I remove the existing software (via Add/Remove)
 or simply let the updated version load over the existing version.  I
 can't find the answer to this question on the software makers web page
 (must have Pro version or the paid for version of MailWasher before I
 can get this information from the software maker).  My reason for
 wanting to be careful of my actions here is my present version has been
 trained to recognize what I consider good messages and what I consider
 to be spam.  I would like to maintain this established training in my
 new updated version of MailWasher 6.51.
 
 It's probably a good idea to just update the existing installation then.
 As the major-Version didn't change this shouldn't be much of a problem.
 regards
 
 Martin
 
I've running the Pro version after using the free one for a couple of
years.  I have had no problems just downloading the latest versions and
installing without removing the existing version.  This through many
versions of SM also.

At present running XP-Pro SP3, SM1.1.17, MailWasher Pro 6.5.1 without
any problems.


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Re: Tab won't delete - get error message

2009-08-13 Thread Hartmut Figge
Martin Feitag:
DoctorBill schrieb:

 http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i86/DoctorBill_SCC/Miscellaneous/?action=viewcurrent=SMTabError.jpg

picture doesn't work for me, just a white page.

That ist strange.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm090813.jpg (99 KB)

Hartmut
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Re: Tab won't delete - get error message

2009-08-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Martin Feitag wrote:


DoctorBill schrieb:

Every now and then, I cannot delete a TAB.

I get this error message and OK does nothing...click on it.

http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i86/DoctorBill_SCC/Miscellaneous/?action=viewcurrent=SMTabError.jpg


Am I doing something wrong (as usual)?

DoctorBIll


picture doesn't work for me, just a white page.


Takes a minute to load, but otherwise looks fine from here.

Alert

[Exception... Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIWebProgress.removeProgressListener] nsresult: 
0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) location: JSframe :: 
chrome://tabextensions/content/modules/tabDragDrop.js :: removeTab :: 
line 256 data: no]


[OK]

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Re: Problem with right-clicking on a Google map

2009-08-13 Thread John

Martin Feitag wrote:

Ray_Net schrieb:

DoctorBill wrote:

Paul Hartman wrote:

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Johnno...@nospam.org wrote:

With Internet Explorer I can right-click on a Google Map and it pops
up a
special Google menu which has a very useful (to me) choice at the
bottom:
What's here?. Clicking on that returns the latitude and longitude
of the
selected point in the Google search box. I've been told by other
users that
this also works with Firefox 3.5.

In your preferences do you have it set to disallow sites to change or
disable your context menu?


Just butting in - how do you do that ?

have no idea where to go in Preferences to do that

DoctorBill

May be ... it's a preference in Google Map, not in SM.
(just an idea)


It's in the Seamonkey Preferences, Advanced = ScriptsPlugins

If there's a site which wants to prevent you from downloading a picture
or similar by right-clicking or so, just turn it off again.
For google maps it needs to be allowed.
regards

Martin


That fixed it! Thank you, Martin.

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mailnews bugs in Seamonkey triage needed

2009-08-13 Thread Wayne Mery
The following query contains a significant percentage of bugs which 
should not be in SeaMonkey product. Please:

a) test against http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0b1
b) move to product Mailnews Core if appropriate

If you need assistance while triaging visit IRC 
http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.mozilla.orgchannel=%23tb-qa,%23seamonkey 



https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advancedproduct=SeaMonkeycomponent=MailNews%3A+Backendcomponent=MailNews%3A+Compositioncomponent=MailNews%3A+Generalcomponent=MailNews%3A+Message+Displayresolution=---bug_severity=majorbug_severity=normalbug_severity=minorbug_severity=trivialchfieldto=2009-01-01negate0=1field0-0-0=longdesctype0-0-0=changedaftervalue0-0-0=2008-01-01

(yes, this query intentionally excludes a lot of mailnews bugs, 
specifically those bugs filed in the last several months, and those that 
were recently change to UNCO)

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Re: print problem

2009-08-13 Thread Norvin

Martin Feitag wrote:

Norvin schrieb:

Recently when I try to print an email and I hit 'print' and then I get
the small screen asking how many copies, etc, I hit the 'OK' and it
would print. Now for some reason (?) after I hit the 'print' I get the
screen but it is in the lower right section of the email screen and the
'OK' button is not in sight and I have to raise the print screen to get
to the ok button. Not a big problem for me but the wife is not
understanding why it is not working like it use to, and I guess I am to.
Any suggestions on how to move it back into the middle of the monitor to
make life easier for my wife.


Try to delete the file localstore.rdf in your profile*, SM will forget
about all window-positions then. Rearrange all windows as needed afterwards.
regards

Martin

* http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/

Martin, thank you very much for your suggestion on the file 
'localstore.rdf'. I took your suggestion one step further. I

found the file, did a 'edit/find' on print and found some instructions
defining a 'X and Y' coordinate. I experimented with the numbers and I
ended up with moving the print screen to the middle of my monitor. Yes, 
I did make a copy of the file before I edited.

Thanks again, especially from my wife.
Norvin
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Re: Problem with right-clicking on a Google map

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Hansen
On 08/12/09 21:10, DoctorBill wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Johnno...@nospam.org wrote:
 With Internet Explorer I can right-click on a Google Map and it pops up a
 special Google menu which has a very useful (to me) choice at the bottom:
 What's here?. Clicking on that returns the latitude and longitude of the
 selected point in the Google search box. I've been told by other users that
 this also works with Firefox 3.5.
 
 In your preferences do you have it set to disallow sites to change or
 disable your context menu?
 
 
 Just butting in - how do you do that ?
 
 have no idea where to go in Preferences to do that
 
 DoctorBill

In the browser, go to Edit - Preferences, then Advanced, then
Scripts and Plugins. You'll see a section for Allow scripts to:

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Re: print problem

2009-08-13 Thread Keith Whaley

Norvin wrote:

Martin Feitag wrote:

Norvin schrieb:

Recently when I try to print an email and I hit 'print' and then I get
the small screen asking how many copies, etc, I hit the 'OK' and it
would print. Now for some reason (?) after I hit the 'print' I get the
screen but it is in the lower right section of the email screen and the
'OK' button is not in sight and I have to raise the print screen to get
to the ok button. Not a big problem for me but the wife is not
understanding why it is not working like it use to, and I guess I am to.
Any suggestions on how to move it back into the middle of the monitor to
make life easier for my wife.



Try to delete the file localstore.rdf in your profile*, SM will forget
about all window-positions then. Rearrange all windows as needed 
afterwards.

regards

Martin

* http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/



Martin, thank you very much for your suggestion on the file 
'localstore.rdf'. I took your suggestion one step further. I

found the file, did a 'edit/find' on print and found some instructions
defining a 'X and Y' coordinate. I experimented with the numbers and I
ended up with moving the print screen to the middle of my monitor. Yes, 
I did make a copy of the file before I edited.

Thanks again, especially from my wife.
Norvin


Holy Mackerel!
A user not only capable of understanding instructions, but able to think 
things thru under trying circumstances.

Thanks for lifting encroaching despair, Norvin!
There _are_ still those in our world worth guiding!  g  Good man!

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Re: Tab won't delete - get error message

2009-08-13 Thread DoctorBill

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Martin Feitag wrote:


DoctorBill schrieb:

Every now and then, I cannot delete a TAB.

I get this error message and OK does nothing...click on it.

http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i86/DoctorBill_SCC/Miscellaneous/?action=viewcurrent=SMTabError.jpg 




Am I doing something wrong (as usual)?

DoctorBIll


picture doesn't work for me, just a white page.


Takes a minute to load, but otherwise looks fine from here.

Alert

[Exception... Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIWebProgress.removeProgressListener] nsresult: 
0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) location: JSframe :: 
chrome://tabextensions/content/modules/tabDragDrop.js :: removeTab :: 
line 256 data: no]


[OK]



How did you convert a graphic into typed words !?
You didn't do it by hand did you...?

Always wanted a way to convert graphics words to alphanumeric on the 
screen...


DoctorBill
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Re: Tab won't delete - get error message

2009-08-13 Thread DoctorBill

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Martin Feitag wrote:


DoctorBill schrieb:

Every now and then, I cannot delete a TAB.

I get this error message and OK does nothing...click on it.

http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i86/DoctorBill_SCC/Miscellaneous/?action=viewcurrent=SMTabError.jpg 




Am I doing something wrong (as usual)?

DoctorBIll


picture doesn't work for me, just a white page.


Takes a minute to load, but otherwise looks fine from here.

Alert

[Exception... Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIWebProgress.removeProgressListener] nsresult: 
0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) location: JSframe :: 
chrome://tabextensions/content/modules/tabDragDrop.js :: removeTab :: 
line 256 data: no]


[OK]



I was on Bing and the damned Tab could not be deleted.

Do some web sites set something (nefarious) which locks up Tabs or one's 
browser to keep you from getting out of it ?


Doesn't happen often, but when it does it is a real bugger to get rid of.

DoctorBill
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Re: Tab won't delete - get error message

2009-08-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

DoctorBill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Martin Feitag wrote:


DoctorBill schrieb:

Every now and then, I cannot delete a TAB.

I get this error message and OK does nothing...click on it.

http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i86/DoctorBill_SCC/Miscellaneous/?action=viewcurrent=SMTabError.jpg 




Am I doing something wrong (as usual)?

DoctorBIll


picture doesn't work for me, just a white page.


Takes a minute to load, but otherwise looks fine from here.

Alert

[Exception... Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIWebProgress.removeProgressListener] nsresult: 
0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) location: JSframe :: 
chrome://tabextensions/content/modules/tabDragDrop.js :: removeTab :: 
line 256 data: no]


[OK]



How did you convert a graphic into typed words !?
You didn't do it by hand did you...?


I did it by hand and double-checked it because it was only a few lines.

For a longer text, I would've dropped the graphic into ABBYY FineReader, 
a very good OCR engine with spell-checking capabilities.


Always wanted a way to convert graphics words to alphanumeric on the 
screen...


There are several very good OCR engines on the market. If you need this 
capability on a regular basis, you should look into them.


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Search Messages feature

2009-08-13 Thread Bill Spikowski

Is there any documentation for the Search Messages feature?

I'm searching the body of large folders for messages with a particular word and 
keep getting tons of e-mails that don't have that word in them.

Does searching body look at more than the visible message?

Also, is there any way to have Seamonkey highlight the searched word? Or is 
there any other software that might do this for me?
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Re: Autocomplete in Location Bar 2.0b1

2009-08-13 Thread Robert Kaiser

Samuel S wrote:

Match only websites you've typed previously


This makes it only list/autocomplete URLs you manually typed into the 
location bar, do you really want that?


Robert Kaiser
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What is SMTP-AUTH error message coming from?

2009-08-13 Thread chicagofan
I downloaded SM 2.0 and can't send mail with the SMTP settings that were 
copied from my SM 1.1.14 version.  I have NO settings set for 
authorization except one news server, however everything worked fine in 
the old SM related to connections.


The error message says I DO have a setting now for authorization at 
Charter, my ISP, which they won't accept.


Any suggestions?   I've checked and re-checked all the settings.  Maybe 
there's something new I haven't found?   TIA...

bj
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Re: Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-13 Thread chicagofan

NoOp wrote:

On 08/12/2009 06:03 PM, NoOp wrote:
   

On 08/12/2009 05:47 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 

chicagofan wrote:
   

NoOp wrote:
 

Download  install. It shouldn't affect your 1.1.x installation.
   

Thanks for this re-post, and I'm trusting you, that it's going to
install separately. ;)
 

Just take care to install it into a different folder than 1.1.x if you
want to use both.

Robert Kaiser
   


Thanks Robert!



Ah. Good catch - Thanks!

@chicagofan: I recommend installing to C:\Program Files\Seamonkey2
But if you'd like to wait for a few moments I'll fire up a WinXP machine
and provide you with the exact steps.

 

Sorry it took awhile... I forgot Windows needs to first install a
bazillion updates, then reboot, then do some more., etc.

Anyway:
   

snipped great instructions

I can't believe you went to this much trouble for me!!!  Thanks so 
much!  I've saved this message for sure, so you won't have to do 
repeats.  :)


I haven't been able to determine if the newsgroup filter is going to 
work yet, but I've developed a mysterious problem with sending mail with 
2.0, which I started a new thread about.


Thanks so much for all of your responses.
bj

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Re: What is SMTP-AUTH error message coming from?

2009-08-13 Thread NoOp
On 08/13/2009 12:03 PM, chicagofan wrote:
 I downloaded SM 2.0 and can't send mail with the SMTP settings that were 
 copied from my SM 1.1.14 version.  I have NO settings set for 
 authorization except one news server, however everything worked fine in 
 the old SM related to connections.
 
 The error message says I DO have a setting now for authorization at 
 Charter, my ISP, which they won't accept.
 
 Any suggestions?   I've checked and re-checked all the settings.  Maybe 
 there's something new I haven't found?   TIA...
 bj

You'll need to post details of the smtp server settings for both along
with the _exact_ error message.


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Re: Autocomplete in Location Bar 2.0b1

2009-08-13 Thread Samuel S

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Samuel S wrote:

Match only websites you've typed previously


This makes it only list/autocomplete URLs you manually typed into the
location bar, do you really want that?

Robert Kaiser



Robert,

I believe that was the issue.

I will monitor it and report back, yet for now it is working as I Am 
accustomed to.


Thank you,

SamuelS
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Re: What is SMTP-AUTH error message coming from?

2009-08-13 Thread chicagofan

NoOp wrote:

On 08/13/2009 12:03 PM, chicagofan wrote:

I downloaded SM 2.0 and can't send mail with the SMTP settings that were
copied from my SM 1.1.14 version.  I have NO settings set for
authorization except one news server, however everything worked fine in
the old SM related to connections.

The error message says I DO have a setting now for authorization at
Charter, my ISP, which they won't accept.

Any suggestions?   I've checked and re-checked all the settings.  Maybe
there's something new I haven't found?   TIA...
bj


You'll need to post details of the smtp server settings for both along
with the _exact_ error message.



Error Message:

Sending of message failed.
An error occurred sending mail: Unable to authenticate to SMTP server 
smtp.charter.net. It does not support authentication (SMTP-AUTH) but you 
have chosen to use authentication. Uncheck 'Use name and password' for 
that server or contact your service provider.



Charter SMTP -  Outgoing Server  =  smtp.charter.net (Default)/Port: 0/
Secure Authentication: No/Connection Security: None


I only have one address for SMTP Outgoing Server [as shown above].  It 
is the same on all my accounts... on BOTH versions of Sea Monkey.


What next?
bj



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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 Compatibility with MailWasher 6.51 (Free)

2009-08-13 Thread Frog

BeeNeR wrote:

On or about 8/13/2009 5:39 AM, Martin Feitag typed the following:

Frog schrieb:

I checked the MailWasher Web page and learned that the free version of
this software is now MailWasher 6.51.  It indicates on the web page that
it is compatible with Thunderbird 2 (no mention of SeaMonkey is
indicated on this web page).  Is it likely that this MailWasher 6.51
software is compatible with SeaMonkey 1.1.17 software? 

Yes, Seamonkey 1.1.17 and TB2 are very similar.



Additionally, I
have downloaded the MailWasher 6.51 (free) software to my computer and
need to know how best to load it on my system (if anybody has experience
with this software).  Do I remove the existing software (via Add/Remove)
or simply let the updated version load over the existing version.  I
can't find the answer to this question on the software makers web page
(must have Pro version or the paid for version of MailWasher before I
can get this information from the software maker).  My reason for
wanting to be careful of my actions here is my present version has been
trained to recognize what I consider good messages and what I consider
to be spam.  I would like to maintain this established training in my
new updated version of MailWasher 6.51.

It's probably a good idea to just update the existing installation then.
As the major-Version didn't change this shouldn't be much of a problem.
regards

Martin


I've running the Pro version after using the free one for a couple of
years.  I have had no problems just downloading the latest versions and
installing without removing the existing version.  This through many
versions of SM also.

At present running XP-Pro SP3, SM1.1.17, MailWasher Pro 6.5.1 without
any problems.


Thanks for the two replies to my message.  I have subsequently signed up 
for the pro version ($19.98) and it is now up and running.  I am sure, 
however, that I will be making a few additional tweaks to the settings 
to make it work as the free version previously worked.


Ed, you indicated that you use the MailWasher Pro version.  Thus, I now 
have a couple of additional questions for you about the software that 
came with my MailWasher purchase--i.e., Benign and SiteHound.  Do you 
use either of these software packages?  If so, what has been your 
experience with either or both of these packages?


Thanks again Martin and Ed for answering my call for help.

Frog
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Re: What is SMTP-AUTH error message coming from?

2009-08-13 Thread NoOp
On 08/13/2009 02:08 PM, chicagofan wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 08/13/2009 12:03 PM, chicagofan wrote:
 I downloaded SM 2.0 and can't send mail with the SMTP settings that were
 copied from my SM 1.1.14 version.  I have NO settings set for
 authorization except one news server, however everything worked fine in
 the old SM related to connections.

 The error message says I DO have a setting now for authorization at
 Charter, my ISP, which they won't accept.

 Any suggestions?   I've checked and re-checked all the settings.  Maybe
 there's something new I haven't found?   TIA...
 bj

 You'll need to post details of the smtp server settings for both along
 with the _exact_ error message.


 Error Message:
 
 Sending of message failed.
 An error occurred sending mail: Unable to authenticate to SMTP server 
 smtp.charter.net. It does not support authentication (SMTP-AUTH) but you 
 have chosen to use authentication. Uncheck 'Use name and password' for 
 that server or contact your service provider.
 
 
 Charter SMTP -  Outgoing Server  =  smtp.charter.net (Default)/Port: 0/
 Secure Authentication: No/Connection Security: None

Port 0? I _think_ that should be port 25 if you are not using any type
of security.

Is this what you see in the box below Outgoing Server (SMTP):Charter SMTP?:

Description: Charter SMPT
Server Name: smtp.charter.net
Port: 25
User Name: not specified
Secure Authentication: No
Connection Security: None

 
 
 I only have one address for SMTP Outgoing Server [as shown above].  It 
 is the same on all my accounts... on BOTH versions of Sea Monkey.
 
 What next?
 bj
 
 
 

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Re: What is SMTP-AUTH error message coming from?

2009-08-13 Thread chicagofan

NoOp wrote:

On 08/13/2009 02:08 PM, chicagofan wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 08/13/2009 12:03 PM, chicagofan wrote:

I downloaded SM 2.0 and can't send mail with the SMTP settings that were
copied from my SM 1.1.14 version.  I have NO settings set for
authorization except one news server, however everything worked fine in
the old SM related to connections.

The error message says I DO have a setting now for authorization at
Charter, my ISP, which they won't accept.

Any suggestions?   I've checked and re-checked all the settings.  Maybe
there's something new I haven't found?   TIA...
bj


You'll need to post details of the smtp server settings for both along
with the _exact_ error message.



Error Message:

Sending of message failed.
An error occurred sending mail: Unable to authenticate to SMTP server
smtp.charter.net. It does not support authentication (SMTP-AUTH) but you
have chosen to use authentication. Uncheck 'Use name and password' for
that server or contact your service provider.


Charter SMTP -  Outgoing Server  =  smtp.charter.net (Default)/Port: 0/
Secure Authentication: No/Connection Security: None


Port 0? I _think_ that should be port 25 if you are not using any type
of security.

Is this what you see in the box below Outgoing Server (SMTP):Charter SMTP?:

Description: Charter SMPT
Server Name: smtp.charter.net
Port: 25
User Name:not specified
Secure Authentication: No
Connection Security: None



Yes... EXCEPT the Port is 0... and that is STILL working in version 
1.1.14 to send Mail...

 but won't in 2.0.

bj









I only have one address for SMTP Outgoing Server [as shown above].  It
is the same on all my accounts... on BOTH versions of Sea Monkey.

What next?
bj







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Re: What is SMTP-AUTH error message coming from?

2009-08-13 Thread chicagofan

NoOp wrote:

On 08/13/2009 02:08 PM, chicagofan wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 08/13/2009 12:03 PM, chicagofan wrote:

I downloaded SM 2.0 and can't send mail with the SMTP settings that were
copied from my SM 1.1.14 version.  I have NO settings set for
authorization except one news server, however everything worked fine in
the old SM related to connections.

The error message says I DO have a setting now for authorization at
Charter, my ISP, which they won't accept.

Any suggestions?   I've checked and re-checked all the settings.  Maybe
there's something new I haven't found?   TIA...
bj


You'll need to post details of the smtp server settings for both along
with the _exact_ error message.



Error Message:

Sending of message failed.
An error occurred sending mail: Unable to authenticate to SMTP server
smtp.charter.net. It does not support authentication (SMTP-AUTH) but you
have chosen to use authentication. Uncheck 'Use name and password' for
that server or contact your service provider.


Charter SMTP -  Outgoing Server  =  smtp.charter.net (Default)/Port: 0/
Secure Authentication: No/Connection Security: None


Port 0? I _think_ that should be port 25 if you are not using any type
of security.

Is this what you see in the box below Outgoing Server (SMTP):Charter SMTP?:

Description: Charter SMPT
Server Name: smtp.charter.net
Port: 25
User Name:not specified
Secure Authentication: No
Connection Security: None




I only have one address for SMTP Outgoing Server [as shown above].  It
is the same on all my accounts... on BOTH versions of Sea Monkey.

What next?
bj




Here's some info from my Charter User's Forum at BBR that may be useful:

Darkk
Almont, MI
·Charter Pipeline

reply to Nikkor @ Port 25

Yes, port 25 into and out of the Charter network is blocked for 
residential customers.


It is not blocked internal to Charter's network, allowing full access to 
the Charter SMTP server.


This means that you cannot run your own SMTP server or access the SMTP 
servers of other ISPs on port 25 from inside the Charter network.


Either use Charter's SMTP server or determine what alternate (and 
secure) ports are available for your use on your alternate ISP.

2008-05-19 08:04:23


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Re: What is SMTP-AUTH error message coming from?

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Hansen
On 08/13/09 15:19, chicagofan wrote:
 
 Here's some info from my Charter User's Forum at BBR that may be useful:
 
 Darkk
 Almont, MI
 ·Charter Pipeline
 
   reply to Nikkor @ Port 25
 
 Yes, port 25 into and out of the Charter network is blocked for 
 residential customers.
 
 It is not blocked internal to Charter's network, allowing full access to 
 the Charter SMTP server.
 
 This means that you cannot run your own SMTP server or access the SMTP 
 servers of other ISPs on port 25 from inside the Charter network.
 
 Either use Charter's SMTP server or determine what alternate (and 
 secure) ports are available for your use on your alternate ISP.
 2008-05-19 08:04:23
 
 
 bj

BJ, Yes, this is normal, and not relevant to your problem. I don't
think you would get the error you're getting if you weren't talking
to their SMTP server.

It sounds like you have SeaMonkey configured to use Authentication,
and Charter doesn't want that. However, as you indicate you don't
have that set, I don't know what else it could be. Perhaps you need
to set Use Authentication, exit SeaMonkey, then restart it and
clear that selection and see if it works.

To be sure we're talking about the same settings, go to Edit -
Mail  Newsgroups Account Settings, Outgoing Server (SMTP) then
select your SMTP server and click on the Edit button.

Under Security and Authentication, make sure Use name and password
is not checked. Under Use secure connection, select No.

Note: I'm not using 2.0 yet, so there may be a 2.0-specific issue
here.

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Re: Tab won't delete - get error message

2009-08-13 Thread Martin Feitag
Hartmut Figge schrieb:
 Martin Feitag:
 DoctorBill schrieb:
 
 http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i86/DoctorBill_SCC/Miscellaneous/?action=viewcurrent=SMTabError.jpg

 picture doesn't work for me, just a white page.
 
 That ist strange.
 http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm090813.jpg (99 KB)

Must have been a temporary server issue, I tried about 7 times even
without ad-blockers etc. no chance, but now it's fine...

Back to the error-message: that looks like the classic
tabbrowser-extensions-error to me. Got them installed?
Only a restart of SM without re-loading the tab-session can fix this.

I'm using the tabbrowser extensions myself in SM1.1.x although they are
officially abandoned and the author warns on his site that they're
unstable. (when opening hundreds of tabs, they will often crash and
moving tabs with the mouse constantly gives me this kind of error when
trying to close a certain tab afterwards, I tend to not move tabs with
the mouse anymore)
A shame that tabmixplus doesn't work for SM ;-(
regards

Martin

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Re: Search Messages feature

2009-08-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Bill Spikowski wrote:


Is there any documentation for the Search Messages feature?

I'm searching the body of large folders for messages with a particular 
word and keep getting tons of e-mails that don't have that word in them.


Does searching body look at more than the visible message?


In my experience, yes. It also looks at the alphabet soup used to send 
graphics (do CTRL-U to see what I mean), so if you have an attached JPEG 
that happens to contain your search string, it will be reported as a 
hit. That's why it's a good idea to choose a string longer than a few 
characters.


Also, is there any way to have Seamonkey highlight the searched word? Or 
is there any other software that might do this for me?


Dunno. I just use CTRL-F (find) and CTRL-G (find again).

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Re: What is SMTP-AUTH error message coming from?

2009-08-13 Thread chicagofan

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 08/13/09 15:19, chicagofan wrote:

Here's some info from my Charter User's Forum at BBR that may be
useful:

Darkk Almont, MI ·Charter Pipeline

reply to Nikkor @ Port 25

Yes, port 25 into and out of the Charter network is blocked for 
residential customers.


It is not blocked internal to Charter's network, allowing full
access to the Charter SMTP server.

This means that you cannot run your own SMTP server or access the
SMTP servers of other ISPs on port 25 from inside the Charter
network.

Either use Charter's SMTP server or determine what alternate (and 
secure) ports are available for your use on your alternate ISP. 
2008-05-19 08:04:23



bj


BJ, Yes, this is normal, and not relevant to your problem. I don't 
think you would get the error you're getting if you weren't talking 
to their SMTP server.


It sounds like you have SeaMonkey configured to use Authentication, 
and Charter doesn't want that. However, as you indicate you don't 
have that set, I don't know what else it could be. Perhaps you need 
to set Use Authentication, exit SeaMonkey, then restart it and 
clear that selection and see if it works.


To be sure we're talking about the same settings, go to Edit - Mail
 Newsgroups Account Settings, Outgoing Server (SMTP) then select
your SMTP server and click on the Edit button.

Under Security and Authentication, make sure Use name and password 
is not checked. Under Use secure connection, select No.


Note: I'm not using 2.0 yet, so there may be a 2.0-specific issue 
here.


Best Regards,


I thought I had tried re-setting it, but now that I think about it... I
didn't see any option to use Name and Password anywhere.  I'll check
that again, and  restarting SeaMonkey.Thanks!
bj
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Re: What is SMTP-AUTH error message coming from?

2009-08-13 Thread chicagofan

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 08/13/09 15:48, chicagofan wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 08/13/09 15:19, chicagofan wrote:

Here's some info from my Charter User's Forum at BBR that may be
useful:

Darkk Almont, MI ·Charter Pipeline

reply to Nikkor @ Port 25

Yes, port 25 into and out of the Charter network is blocked for
residential customers.

It is not blocked internal to Charter's network, allowing full
access to the Charter SMTP server.

This means that you cannot run your own SMTP server or access the
SMTP servers of other ISPs on port 25 from inside the Charter
network.

Either use Charter's SMTP server or determine what alternate (and
secure) ports are available for your use on your alternate ISP.
2008-05-19 08:04:23


bj


BJ, Yes, this is normal, and not relevant to your problem. I don't
think you would get the error you're getting if you weren't talking
to their SMTP server.

It sounds like you have SeaMonkey configured to use Authentication,
and Charter doesn't want that. However, as you indicate you don't
have that set, I don't know what else it could be. Perhaps you need
to set Use Authentication, exit SeaMonkey, then restart it and
clear that selection and see if it works.

To be sure we're talking about the same settings, go to Edit -  Mail
  Newsgroups Account Settings, Outgoing Server (SMTP) then select
your SMTP server and click on the Edit button.

Under Security and Authentication, make sure Use name and password
is not checked. Under Use secure connection, select No.

Note: I'm not using 2.0 yet, so there may be a 2.0-specific issue
here.

Best Regards,


I thought I had tried re-setting it, but now that I think about it... I
didn't see any option to use Name and Password anywhere.  I'll check
that again, and  restarting SeaMonkey.Thanks!
bj


Remember that I'm not using 2.0, so your dialogs may be (and likely are)
different. However, you should still have an option to use (or not use)
a user name and password when communicating with the SMTP server. It
sounds like Charter wants you to turn this off.

Good luck.



I apparently never checked the SMTP with the *Edit* function.  However, 
this just gets more bizarre.  Both SM versions have Port 25 in the box 
[and beside it, locked in, Default  25].  And as the Error message is 
saying... there is a name and password shown for authentication.


Now tell me why my old mail program is working with identical settings? 
  Never mind, I just changed the Port to 0, and removed the 
authentication on the new program, and it sent that one message.  :)


I'm guessing Charter switched those settings in the old program  [in one 
place] and it was OK as long as I continued to use *that* program.  I'm 
saying this, because I remember it used to be 25, and I don't remember 
changing it.  Could they have done that?  I forgot to say I'm on a 
laptop.  I don't know what my desktop has, it's been so long since I 
used it.


Thanks to everyone who has been patiently helping me!
bj



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[Resolved] Re: What is SMTP-AUTH error message coming from?

2009-08-13 Thread NoOp
On 08/13/2009 05:10 PM, chicagofan wrote:

 
 I apparently never checked the SMTP with the *Edit* function.  However, 
 this just gets more bizarre.  Both SM versions have Port 25 in the box 
 [and beside it, locked in, Default  25].  And as the Error message is 
 saying... there is a name and password shown for authentication.
 
 Now tell me why my old mail program is working with identical settings? 
Never mind, I just changed the Port to 0, and removed the 
 authentication on the new program, and it sent that one message.  :)
 
 I'm guessing Charter switched those settings in the old program  [in one 
 place] and it was OK as long as I continued to use *that* program.  I'm 
 saying this, because I remember it used to be 25, and I don't remember 
 changing it.  Could they have done that?  I forgot to say I'm on a 
 laptop.  I don't know what my desktop has, it's been so long since I 
 used it.
 
 Thanks to everyone who has been patiently helping me!
 bj

So I reckon that we can mark this [Resolved] so that others don't
continue to offer additional suggestions?




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Re: [Resolved] Re: What is SMTP-AUTH error message coming from?

2009-08-13 Thread chicagofan

NoOp wrote:

On 08/13/2009 05:10 PM, chicagofan wrote:



I apparently never checked the SMTP with the *Edit* function.  However,
this just gets more bizarre.  Both SM versions have Port 25 in the box
[and beside it, locked in, Default  25].  And as the Error message is
saying... there is a name and password shown for authentication.

Now tell me why my old mail program is working with identical settings?
Never mind, I just changed the Port to 0, and removed the
authentication on the new program, and it sent that one message.  :)

I'm guessing Charter switched those settings in the old program  [in one
place] and it was OK as long as I continued to use *that* program.  I'm
saying this, because I remember it used to be 25, and I don't remember
changing it.  Could they have done that?  I forgot to say I'm on a
laptop.  I don't know what my desktop has, it's been so long since I
used it.

Thanks to everyone who has been patiently helping me!
bj


So I reckon that we can mark this [Resolved] so that others don't
continue to offer additional suggestions?



Yes, I didn't know there was a protocol for that.  Thanks!

Also the Newsgroup [cross posting] message filter IS working, that you 
helped me with.

Thanks again!

Barbara






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Re: What is SMTP-AUTH error message coming from?

2009-08-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:19 PM, chicagofanm...@privacy.net wrote:
 Here's some info from my Charter User's Forum at BBR that may be useful:

 Darkk
 Almont, MI
 ·Charter Pipeline

reply to Nikkor @ Port 25

 Yes, port 25 into and out of the Charter network is blocked for residential
 customers.

 It is not blocked internal to Charter's network, allowing full access to the
 Charter SMTP server.

 This means that you cannot run your own SMTP server or access the SMTP
 servers of other ISPs on port 25 from inside the Charter network.

 Either use Charter's SMTP server or determine what alternate (and secure)
 ports are available for your use on your alternate ISP.

I know you were just repasting what you found on the forum, but FWIW I
am on Charter and have been using non-charter SMTP servers on port 25
every day for years and haven't had any of them blocked so far.
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Re: What is SMTP-AUTH error message coming from?

2009-08-13 Thread chicagofan

Paul Hartman wrote:

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:19 PM, chicagofanm...@privacy.net  wrote:

Here's some info from my Charter User's Forum at BBR that may be useful:

Darkk
Almont, MI
·Charter Pipeline

reply to Nikkor @ Port 25

Yes, port 25 into and out of the Charter network is blocked for residential
customers.

It is not blocked internal to Charter's network, allowing full access to the
Charter SMTP server.

This means that you cannot run your own SMTP server or access the SMTP
servers of other ISPs on port 25 from inside the Charter network.

Either use Charter's SMTP server or determine what alternate (and secure)
ports are available for your use on your alternate ISP.


I know you were just repasting what you found on the forum, but FWIW I
am on Charter and have been using non-charter SMTP servers on port 25
every day for years and haven't had any of them blocked so far.



Yes, it apparently varies by region, I just wasn't sure if that might be 
part of my problem now.  Although, when everyone starting posting about 
that problem at BBR, I had never had any problems with it.


Thanks, for the info, since on Charter it's hard to know what applies, 
and what doesn't.  :)

bj

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Re: [Resolved] Re: What is SMTP-AUTH error message coming from?

2009-08-13 Thread NoOp
On 08/13/2009 06:19 PM, chicagofan wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 08/13/2009 05:10 PM, chicagofan wrote:


 I apparently never checked the SMTP with the *Edit* function.  However,
 this just gets more bizarre.  Both SM versions have Port 25 in the box
 [and beside it, locked in, Default  25].  And as the Error message is
 saying... there is a name and password shown for authentication.

 Now tell me why my old mail program is working with identical settings?
 Never mind, I just changed the Port to 0, and removed the
 authentication on the new program, and it sent that one message.  :)

 I'm guessing Charter switched those settings in the old program  [in one
 place] and it was OK as long as I continued to use *that* program.  I'm
 saying this, because I remember it used to be 25, and I don't remember
 changing it.  Could they have done that?  I forgot to say I'm on a
 laptop.  I don't know what my desktop has, it's been so long since I
 used it.

 Thanks to everyone who has been patiently helping me!
 bj

 So I reckon that we can mark this [Resolved] so that others don't
 continue to offer additional suggestions?

 
 Yes, I didn't know there was a protocol for that.  Thanks!
 
 Also the Newsgroup [cross posting] message filter IS working, that you 
 helped me with.
 Thanks again!
 
 Barbara

No protocol... just a nice thing to do when the problem is solved :-)
Glad you got it working! Note: for newsgroups that I expect to see some
crossposting to related newsgroups (not spammers)  I want to be alerted
that I'll: 1) either need to remove the crossposts when responding, or
2) ignore the post because it's been crossposted, I set the filter to
mark it as read, flag it, and mark it as 'work'; that way the post
header appears in orange with a flag  I immediately know that it
includes crosspost headers.


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