Threads still buggy....

1999-12-15 Thread Ray Vermey

Hi fellow Batters!,

I have a question, i use TB 38e, bleeding edge so to speek ;-) and i
notice that still there are problems with threads:

- When i want to delete a whole thread with CTRL-DEL, the
highlight-bar jumps mostly to the top of my messagelist and the
sort-sequence is lost (I sometimes sort on number of messages in
thread, very handy when cleaning a folder ;-)))
This is annoying.

- When i open a thread and want to delete the first message in that
thread, the thread is collapsed (closed) and i have to reopen it
again. If I don't delete the first message but instead go to a message
beneath that one and i delete such a message the tread stays open when
the message is deleted. It is very annoying to read/delete threads
this way...

Can anybody tell me when this will be fixed ???

Thanx in advance!

Ray

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Re: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.

1999-12-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Leif,

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:44:41 +0900GMT,
which was Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 5:44:41 PM (GMT+0800) my local time,
Leif Gregory wrote:

You froze my Bat! - Here is what I did:

LG Here is a copy of my QT for this whole deal:

I copied  pasted this whole deal into a quick template whcih I called
replydate.

LG Here is a copy of my reply template:

LG * Start *

LG %QINCLUDE="replydate"

I only copied this line into my existing reply template.
[...]

LG *  END  *

I hit "reply": the Bat froze. No response whatsoever, while the
"reply" botton was still "pressed".

I could move the mouse pointer and went to focus on another open
programme from the task list. It opened, but that was about all that
happened: I could switch between frozen programmes. (Screnshots, so to
speak.)

Only way out was ctrl-alt-del, but closing TB this way released all
other problems.

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SOT: Re: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.

1999-12-15 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

On Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 10:44:41 AM, Leif Gregory wrote:

 Here is a copy of my QT for this whole deal:

 * Start *

 Hello %OFROMFNAME, 
%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%HEADERS"

 [...]

I'm also a big fan of REGEXPs, yet, why don't we ask the developers to
also fix the %ODATE macro so that it shows the real original message
date as stated in the received message (ie. without translation to
local time)?

Regards,

Markus
Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows NT 4.0 Build
1381 Service Pack 5 

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Re: Toolbar

1999-12-15 Thread Ali Martin

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:35:32 -0600, Travisimo! wrote:

 Is there a way to customize the Main toolbar in v1.38? Specifically,
 can we add/delete our own buttons on it and can the icons be
 rearranged?

No. Toolbar customization is not supported in this version.

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Re: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.

1999-12-15 Thread Ali Martin

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:44:41 +0900, Leif Gregory wrote:

The %QINCLUDE="QT handle" macro certainly takes a lot of the burden
off re-customizing reply templates and signatures, especially if you
use the same template or signature over multiple folders. Simply
change the template at one central spot which is the quick templates
and the change will span multiple folders. :)

 Here is a copy of my reply template:

 * Start *

 %QINCLUDE="replydate"
 %PUT="C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Includes\TB Sig.txt"

 Using The Bat! %THEBATVERSION under %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME
 %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER 
%WINDOWSCSDVERSION 
 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB.

 %COOKIE
 %SINGLERE


 *  END  *


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Re: SOT: Re: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.

1999-12-15 Thread Ali Martin

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:52:52 +0100, Markus Gloede wrote:

[]
 I'm also a big fan of REGEXPs, yet, why don't we ask the developers to
 also fix the %ODATE macro so that it shows the real original message
 date as stated in the received message (ie. without translation to
 local time)?

I've asked on more than one occasion since the days of version 1.33
and they haven't offered a solution, hence my independence. At least
The Bat! offers a way out. :)

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Re: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.

1999-12-15 Thread Leif Gregory

Hello Thomas, 

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 at 18:27:14 [GMT +0800], you wrote:
TF You froze my Bat! - Here is what I did:

LG %QINCLUDE="replydate"

TF I only copied this line into my existing reply template.
TF [...]

Let's see a cut and paste of your reply template. Is this reply
template your global, address book, or folder level? I use mine for
both global and folder. I don't have any address book reply templates.

TF I hit "reply": the Bat froze. No response whatsoever, while the
TF "reply" botton was still "pressed".

Hmm, I mean I just used the replydate setup to respond to this
message. I'm not having any trouble.

After you were forced to reboot, does TB behave in the same manner
when you try to reply? Maybe it was a glitch and your box needed a
reboot.



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Having TB check mail automatically

1999-12-15 Thread Douglas Hinds


Hello all fellow TBUDL members,

I haven't noticed how to get TB to check mail automatically during the
time I'm on line.

Where I am local calls are not toll free, although there is no per
minute charge. I want therefore, my connection to remain active
during the time I'm composing, as I'm doing now.

If way to program TB to check mail automatically every couple of
minutes exists, I also hope this function can be activated and
deactivated easily.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,

Douglas Hinds

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No canvas handle

1999-12-15 Thread Douglas Hinds


Hello all fellow TBUDL members,

"No canvas handle" is the error message I get from TB when system
resources get low (which also is reported, shortly afterwards). TB
requires more resources than other applications I run or is the first
to react. When this happens, first I close other programs, knowing
I'll have to reboot soon also. But often TB becomes locked into a
rapid chain of "No canvas handle" messages and I have to close it
using cntrl+alt+delete, which closes all open messages being read or
composed along with it.

The computer being used is old and the problem may be related to video
memory, which is is only 1 mb I believe. Am I correct in my diagnosis
and are sources available for VESA video cards with more memory? (In
case anyone else knows). Other comments? I'm already using v 1.38e of
TB. Thanks in advance.

Best regards,

Douglas Hinds

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possible bug

1999-12-15 Thread Roel

Hello Everybody,

  can anybody confirm this?

  when i collapse an account, select it (without expanding it) and hit
  the F2-key (or using the mouse), I always get:
  'server reports error: the respons is:

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Re: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.

1999-12-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Leif,

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:03:55 +0900 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 8:03:55 PM (GMT+0800) my local time,
Leif Gregory wrote:

LG Let's see a cut and paste of your reply template.

Here it is:

*** Start ***

 Hallo %OFromFName,
 
 
On%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPMATCH="%HEADERS"
 GMT your local time,
 which was %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn (GMT+0800) my local time,
 %OFROMNAME wrote:
 
 %Cursor
 
 %Quotes
 
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 Cheers,
 %FromFName mailto:%FromAddr
 
 Message reply created with The Bat! %THEBATVERSION
 under Chinese %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build 
%WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION
 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM
 %Singlere

*** end ***

I added:
%QINCLUDE="replydate"
right under the first ("Hallo") line. It is a folder-level template.
I don't use any address book reply templates, and I never used a QT before.

TF I hit "reply": the Bat froze. No response whatsoever, while the
TF "reply" botton was still "pressed".

LG Hmm, I mean I just used the replydate setup to respond to this
LG message. I'm not having any trouble.

LG After you were forced to reboot, does TB behave in the same manner
LG when you try to reply? Maybe it was a glitch and your box needed a
LG reboot.

Yes; this time, I tried it again after rebooting the whole system (the
first time, I only closed TB by hitting ctrl-alt-delete once). Same
behaviour of TB.

The QT Editor also asks "Share with other Accounts". No difference in
behaviour whether this is checked or unchecked.

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Re: possible bug

1999-12-15 Thread Leif Gregory

Hello Roel, 

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 at 14:04:55 [GMT +0100], you wrote:
R can anybody confirm this?
R when i collapse an account, select it (without expanding it) and
R hit the F2-key (or using the mouse), I always get: 'server reports
R error: the respons is:

Nope, I don't have any problems checking collapsed accounts using the
F2 key for either POP or IMAP accounts.



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Re: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.

1999-12-15 Thread Leif Gregory

Hallo Thomas,

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 at 21:01:27 [GMT +0800], you wrote:
GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 10:01:27 PM (GMT+0800) my local time,
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

Well, this is it... This is your template! I cut and pasted it into a
folder level template for reply. I added the %QINCLUDE="replydate" to
right under Hallo %OFROMNAME,


Now, I did have to do some serious editing, because the replydate QT
already has the below macros in it, therefore you don't need them in
your reply template:

Hello %OFROMFNAME,
%QUOTES
%CURSOR
%SINGLERE

Try only putting the below in your folder level template:

 Start 

%QINCLUDE="replydate"

Cheers,
%FromFName mailto:%FromAddr

Message reply created with The Bat! %THEBATVERSION
under Chinese %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build 
%WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION
using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM


  END  


TF Hallo Leif,

TF On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:03:55 +0900 GMT your local time,
TF which was Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 8:03:55 PM (GMT+0800) my local time,
TF Leif Gregory wrote:

snipped a bunch of quote


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Re: possible bug (2) full mail this time

1999-12-15 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

Hello Roel,

On  Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:09:01 +0100 you told us :

R   can anybody confirm this?

R when  i  collapse  an account, select it (without expanding it) and
R hit  the F2-key (or using the mouse), I always get: 'server reports
R error: the respons is:'

R when i expand the account  hit the F2 key, everything goes fine...
R the  strange  thing  is  that it doesn't happen at all my accounts,
R although they rely on the same settings  mail-server...

I can't confirm this, working fine here.

I've  test  using  Mail  Server  on  LAN  or  connecting  via  Dial Up
NAT/Proxy, no problem.

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Created : Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 20:27:22 (GMT + 07:00)

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Re: Having TB check mail automatically

1999-12-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Douglas,

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 06:44:59 -0600 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 8:44:59 PM (GMT+0800) my local time,
Douglas Hinds wrote:

DH I haven't noticed how to get TB to check mail automatically during the
DH time I'm on line.

Account/Properties/Options/Check mail every xx mintues.

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Re: possible bug (2) full mail this time

1999-12-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Roel,

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:09:01 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 9:09:01 PM (GMT+0800) my local time,
Roel wrote:

R   I checked everything  the accounts are exactly the same (apart from
R   the login  password that is)... every setting is identical...

I am not sure about the Network settings per account: do have
account-specific network setting in each account? You should have it
only in one.

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Re: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.

1999-12-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Leif,

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 at 22:36:33 [GMT +0900], you wrote:
[...]

as you can see, now it works. After playing around, completely messing
up my reply template and rebooting my machine a couple of times in the
process, I finally noticed that I had cp'ed your *reply* template
data into my *quick* template. Thus TB ended up in an endless loop,
calling QT "replydate" from within itself. :-(

What have we learned: you can call a QT from within a QT. :-)

Problem solved. Thanks for your help.

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Re[2]: possible bug (2) full mail this time

1999-12-15 Thread Roel

 \\\|///
 / ~ _ \
(- O o -)
--oOOo-(_)-oOOo---
Hello Thomas,

R   I checked everything  the accounts are exactly the same (apart from
R   the login  password that is)... every setting is identical...

TF I am not sure about the Network settings per account: do have
TF account-specific network setting in each account? You should have it
TF only in one.

over here, when i use account-specific settings, it won't give
anything but an error... so i use the general (as in
non-account-specific) setting for all of them...


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Re[2]: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.

1999-12-15 Thread tracer

Wednesday, December 15, 1999
On , when it was  on your
local clock -- and you live in timezone GMT --- 
you wrote me:

 On %SUBPATT="2", when it was %SUBPATT="3" on your 
 local clock -- and you live in timezone GMT%SUBPATT="4" --- 
 you wrote me:
can you please post the whole working script as the damned thing
doesnt fill in anything :( as shown above or gives me in the simpler
form the wrong date/time
So I must be doing something wrong!

Ali Yes, the template would look like this:

Ali %SETPATTREGEXP="insert regexp here"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%HEADERS"
Ali On %SUBPATT="2", when it was %SUBPATT="3" on your 
Ali local clock -- and you live in timezone GMT%SUBPATT="4" --- 
Ali you wrote me:

 Which would result in the following string inserted into your 
 message:

 On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, when it was 10:42:14 on your local clock -
 - and you live in timezone GMT+1000 --  you wrote me:

 Isn't it cool???

Best regards,
 
tracer

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Re[2]: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.

1999-12-15 Thread tracer

Wednesday, December 15, 1999

On  Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:49:50 +, tracer wrote:    its  2.37 pm time zone 
+7
I can see a problem though...
Try opening and responding to an OLD email. It gives you the wrong
day/time...
My mistake

this my response text:
==
%DATEEN

On 
%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPMATCH="%HEADERS",
 %FROMNAME wrote:

%Quotes
%Cursor

Best regards,
 
tracer
==




Best regards,
 
tracer

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Re: reinstall; yet save the old accounts

1999-12-15 Thread tracer

Wednesday, December 15, 1999

Hello lostenroute,

Wednesday, Wednesday, December 15, 1999, you wrote:

lostenroute Hi,

lostenroute I went from NT to 98 (not as retro as it sounds).  Now how can I use my
lostenroute accounts from the old to the new system?  I tried to reinstall The Bat
lostenroute atop my
lostenroute old The Bat installation (similar to doing a version update) but it
lostenroute failed, all
lostenroute I get as a "temp" account, such as this.  Of course, since The Bat is
lostenroute non-destructive, the folders pertaining to the aliases I have remain
lostenroute within The Bat's directory, but the program doesn't recognize them.
lostenroute What can I do?  Will it help if I re-register the shareware?  I cannot
lostenroute fathom it.
when this happens to me, you just make sure you know the names of your
old accounts.
if necessary reinstall the bat to the old location so that all
files/settings are there.
Then open the bat and make your accounts with the same names as before
and that should pick up specifics from the files.
to register the program, just reenter your key or when the bat is
open, open your registration email.
The bat should then autofill it in and you just supply the password

lostenroute Jack Case
lostenroute John P. Case (registered owner, hint)
lostenroute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lostenroute [EMAIL PROTECTED] (formerly)




Best regards,
 
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Re[4]: Some things about 1.38

1999-12-15 Thread tracer

Wednesday, December 15, 1999

Hello Patrick,

Wednesday, Wednesday, December 15, 1999, you wrote:

Patrick hallo MaXxX!

Patrick on Tuesday, December 14, 1999, 8:31:49 PM, you wrote:

M At Tuesday, December 14, 1999, 12:36:44 PM, Oleg stitched together the lines below:

OZ .T.M!  (don't  try  to  understand,  it's in russian). Just looked at
OZ Message/Specials and found there:

M Am I wrong, or was this 3-letter acronym a very harsh and rude one? :
Patrick as at least we here in the ex-gdr know - the russians have the by far
Patrick best curses - every south-bronx ghettoboy is mamas favorite compared to
Patrick them.. :)
not sure, I thought the best ones or at least the longest ones were in
Arabic


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Re[3]: Multiple Accounts, Multiple The Bat but one folder...

1999-12-15 Thread tracer

Wednesday, December 15, 1999

Hello Giamma,

Wednesday, Wednesday, December 15, 1999, you wrote:

Giamma Ciao Thomas,

Giamma in data lunedì, 13 dicembre 1999, alle 18:50, hai scritto:


GNow I want that is one pc (the boss` pc) to connect to internet and
Gretrieve mail for all accounts. After, all the others PCs can
Gaccess to a folder located on boss` PC and see the whole mailbox.

TF I'm not quite sure whether you mean that everyone has his/her own PC.

Giamma every employee have a pc, and every employee can reply to both (info@
Giamma and sales@) mailbox (this exclude that user A on pc 1 have only info,
Giamma and user B on pc 2 have only sales), plus the boss that must have the
Giamma capability to use his account and the others 2.

TF As for outgong messages (your boos or somebody else replied already),
TF but %bcc=%FromAddr in all the "send" and "reply" folders.

Giamma but doing in this mode, because the connection is not permanent, but
Giamma we will connect one or two times per day, can happen that A replyes to
Giamma a mail and too B and the boss (and if we are unlucky, can be that they
Giamma write 3 different replyes...), and all can realize that there are
Giamma multiple replyes only when BBC is delivered... too late...


But you can SEE an email is replied to as it has a small arrow.
Obviously thats in my single user mailbox but check if mail replaied
to and the mail not replied to have the same icon.

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Forced CR/LF (was: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.)

1999-12-15 Thread Peter Hampf

Hello Stefan,

MDP It's  good but comes with its' own problems. Every reference to such a
MDP %QINCLUDE  macro  in a template has the added burden of a forced CR/LF
MDP in  the  text  wherever one is used. I have noticed this with %INCLUDE
MDP macros recently too. They didn't used to do that.

MDP Is this, in fact, a bug?

The same is true for %CLEAR which should not insert a cr/lf pair in
the message, IMO.

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Re[2]: possible bug (2) full mail this time

1999-12-15 Thread Roel

 \\\|///
 / ~ _ \
(- O o -)
--oOOo-(_)-oOOo---
Hello Thomas,

R over here, when i use account-specific settings, it won't give
R anything but an error... so i use the general (as in
R non-account-specific) setting for all of them...

TF What if you choose account-specific settings for one of the accounts?

as said above: it'll give an error for that account...
don't know why though...

also, i noticed that now hitting f2 _sometimes_ work...
seems to be random, with a higher chance for an error...


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SOT: Win short-cut for cp (was: Re: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.)

1999-12-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Thomas,

Hello Thomas,

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 at 22:17:41 [GMT +0800], I wrote some stuff.

Anyway, I copied my original reply template for this folder in the
account's reply template - as a measure of backup. Now I want to
reinstall it, and I found that marking and right-clicking does not give
me the option  "copy". It does do so when I want to copy and paste
from a reply template on a folder level - notice the inconsistency.

However, there are Win short-cuts that I forgot. I know crtl-V is for
"paste" - which is the one for "copy"?

(Ya I know I have done some stupid things on my box today - do better
with 38 fever and two beers and then complain ;-))

TIA

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Re: possible bug (2) full mail this time

1999-12-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Roel,

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 at 16:43:25 [GMT +0100], you wrote:

TF What if you choose account-specific settings for one of the accounts?

R as said above: it'll give an error for that account...
R don't know why though...

R also, i noticed that now hitting f2 _sometimes_ work...
R seems to be random, with a higher chance for an error...

What happens if you hit alt-F2 (check mail for all)?

Are the different addresses on the same server aliases? You might be
able to connect to the POP server with only one connection at a time.

If it's not that, I'm out of my wits.

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Re: SOT: Win short-cut for cp (was: Re: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.)

1999-12-15 Thread Roel

 \\\|///
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(- O o -)
--oOOo-(_)-oOOo---
Hello Thomas,

TF However, there are Win short-cuts that I forgot. I know crtl-V is for
TF "paste" - which is the one for "copy"?

control-X: cut
C: copy
V: paste
Z: undo

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Re[2]: possible bug (2) full mail this time

1999-12-15 Thread Roel

 \\\|///
 / ~ _ \
(- O o -)
--oOOo-(_)-oOOo---
Hello Thomas,

TF What happens if you hit alt-F2 (check mail for all)?

alt-f2 gives the same problem...

TF Are the different addresses on the same server aliases? You might be
TF able to connect to the POP server with only one connection at a time.

I've got 6 accounts on 1 french pop-server, 3 on the yahoo pop-server
 1 on my isp's pop-server...
multiple simultanious connections work just fine (alt-f2)... but not
always for all the accounts...
sometimes it even goes well for all the accounts, but in general 1 to
3 give an error...

I have completely no idea  it only happens if the accounts are
collapsed... no problems at all (as in never) when the accounts are
expanded...

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Re: OT: Curses

1999-12-15 Thread Steve Lamb

Tuesday, December 14, 1999, 3:19:28 PM, Leif wrote:
 soapbox
 Because the subscriber base of TBUDL and TBBETA is so diverse
 demographically, I made it a rule when I started these two UDLs that
 profanity is not allowed.

[snippage]

 /soapbox

soapbox
There is no such thing as profane speech, only profane context.  I
guarantee that any unacceptable "word" that people come up with I pretty much
can say in a context where it isn't profane.  Conversely, I can take words
which are, in and of themselves, "completely innocent" and throw insults out
that are worse than anything that anyone could do with "bad" words.

Please, don't perpetuate this fallacy that words, in and of themselves,
somehow are "good" or "bad".

ObExample: There never has existed such a cesspool as the one that exists
between his ears.

Anyone care to translate that into what I'm saying?  It is a sentence of 5
words.

/soapbox


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Here`s my problem...

1999-12-15 Thread Adam Golebiowski

Welcome,

  My problem is:
  Sometimes (last times more often) whike checking for new mail and
  recieving it, the bat shows some error messages, about mail saved in
  the_bat\mail\account\inbox\folder\bad.tmp (where  is some
  number in hexadecimal format). When I repair the messgaes with
  mbrepair.exe, and try to import it as unix mailboxes, whole repaired
  message base is improted as one, single letter... well, it stops on
  about 200 kB, with an error message something about memory... (I
  have 64 MB RAM)...
  anyone can help???
  Also, when I repair another broken msb, it`s imported without any
  problems...

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Re: OT: Curses

1999-12-15 Thread Steve Lamb

Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 9:43:34 AM, Nick wrote:
 Oooh, word games!!! He has sh*t for brains!

 Can I take the trip to Cancun??

Sure.  Nick wins a no express trip to Cancun!  He'll enjoy whatever class
of flight he books for himself and accommodations in whatever hotel he
decides to cough up the cash to.  He'll enjoy as many nights and days he can
afford.  Congratulations Nick!

soapbox
Hope this completes the point that context, not words, are profane.
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Re: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.

1999-12-15 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev

Hi there!

On 14 Dec 99, at 22:55, Peter Steiner wrote
about "Re: Solution to %DATE and %TIME mac":

 Now (as I'm never content) if this Macro could be named
 %DateTimeTZEn, I'm missing the %DateTimeTZ Macro (the same, but the
 words not in English, but as defined in the systems country
 settings).
 
 If I didn't miss something in the help file, the RegExp support is
 only for matching, not for substituting. So the next wish (after
 Alex' global modifier) is substitution. Then the next workaround
 would be to replace the month names with the localized ones...

Better to add a Perl hook:-) In Perl it's really simple:-)

 And there will probably more wishes until we have a TheCamel!
 instead of TheBat! ;-) 

Will we ever? Camels live under Linux, AFAIK:-))

And BTW, don't you think a winged camel is something RIT 
labs will never (ever) accept?

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odd problem

1999-12-15 Thread Jason Ellis

Hello list,

I have an odd problem that I've recently noticed. I leave my computer
up and running 24/7, and also leave my e-mail program running 24/7 (to
maintain my dialup internet connection so that the constant
re-dialling of my linux dialup server won't bother anyone). Since
switching to The Bat, I've noticed an odd pattern, though, that I'd
like to know how to solve.

I have The Bat set to download my mail every 5 minutes. This works
great - for about 24 or 30 hours. Then, for no apparent reason
whatsoever, The Bat stops downloading e-mail unless I click the
download button. I have to close The Bat and relaunch it before it'll
start automatically checking the accounts again. It's very bizarre -
this afternoon it sat for almost 3 hours not downlaoding e-mail until
I finally noticed it (I keep my e-mail program in the background while
I work, and losing 3 hours of e-mail was a very big pain since I do
customer service which a fast response is very important) and closed
The Bat and reopenned it and ended up having to download over 100
messages several hours old.

Does anyone else notice this pattern and can anyone else give me a
solution to it? I can't close The Bat at night because then it'd take
20 minutes just to download my e-mail when I get into the office in
the morning (I get over 1000 e-mails a day, about 500 of them during
my off-hours), and I can't keep having huge gaps where no e-mail is
being downloaded and I don't notice it until later.

Any help would be appreciated.

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re's and regexp's

1999-12-15 Thread Jast

Morning sirs,

 I just was wondering if regexps would allow to replace the
 AW:'s and whatnot generated by localized versions of LookOut by a
 Re[x] in a reply? Maybe together with the new recounter macros?

 A subject line with "AW: AW: AW: AW: AW:" or even "Re: AW: Re: AW: Re:
 AW:" in front of it is rather annoying; and annoying to manually fix.


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Re: reinstall; yet save the old accounts

1999-12-15 Thread Jast

Morning Jack.

 I went from NT to 98 (not as retro as it sounds). Now how can I use
 my accounts from the old to the new system? I tried to reinstall The
 Bat atop my old The Bat installation (similar to doing a version
 update) but it failed, all I get as a "temp" account, such as this.
 
 Creating an account with the same name as the one you had before (ie
 the same name the accounts directory has) you should recover your
 all your folders and mail. If soemthing stills seems lost, try
 Shift+Ctrl+Alt+L, which should recover lost folders.

 AFAIK, there is no key-combo for recovering accounts :-( I'd find it
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Re: Automatic BCC

1999-12-15 Thread Jast

Morning Januk Aggarwal,

 I was wondering, is there anyway in The Bat! to automatically BCC ALL
 mail from an account to another address?  I have a bunch of user
 specific templates, and I really don't want to search through all my
 contacts and all my folders just to add %BCC="[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  I'm
 guaranteed to miss one or two.  Any ideas?

 Well, I haven't tried or ever used it, but a way of achieving what
 (I think) you want may be an outgoing mail filter that either
 forwards every outgoing message to that other account or generates a
 template based message to that account. Both are under the actions
 tab of the filter properties.

 But reading just now that you can do a file include... yes, that's
 probably the better option on long terms.


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Re: re's and regexp's

1999-12-15 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev

ðÒÉ×ÅÔ, Jast!

÷ 20:10, 15 Dec 99, ÔÙ ÉÚ×ÏÌÉÌ
   ÓÏÞÉÎÉÔØ ÐÏÓÌÁÎÉÅ "re's and  regexp's":

 Morning sirs,
 
  I just was wondering if regexps would allow to replace the
  AW:'s and whatnot generated by localized versions of LookOut by a
  Re[x] in a reply? Maybe together with the new recounter macros?

It's *very* easy indeed to convert AW: to Re:, but I cannot see 
how is it possible to convert AW: to Re[n]: TB's regexps 
currently don't allow replacing, only straightforward matching:-(

Just remember that wonderful Nike slogan "Just Do It!":-)

  A subject line with "AW: AW: AW: AW: AW:" or even "Re: AW: Re: AW: Re:
  AW:" in front of it is rather annoying; and annoying to manually fix.

No problem, too:-)

But guys, I've already done my share of regexping TB, *you* 
are using it, *i* don't (since i'm still riding the winged horse:-)). 
Anybody else volunteering? If not, I'll probably invent something 
for you tomorrow evening... It's late night here right now... 

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Re: Automatic BCC

1999-12-15 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Jast,

I tried the forwarding filter, and let this be a warning to any of you
out there who want to try it, it causes an infinite loop if you're not
careful.  I had it set up so any mail with my e-mail address as the
sender would get forwarded, but that meant the forwarded message would
get forwarded, and that would get forwarded, and so on.  :-)
I think for now I'll just make sure that I've BCC'd a copy.  Worst
case scenario is that not all my correspondence is on ONE machine.
That was just one nice feature of Netscape messenger that I kind of
miss.  I could select if and where any sent messages were saved.
Either on the local machine or forwarded to some address.

Thanks.
 

Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 5:22:38 AM, you wrote:

 Morning Januk Aggarwal,

 I was wondering, is there anyway in The Bat! to automatically BCC ALL
 mail from an account to another address?  I have a bunch of user
 specific templates, and I really don't want to search through all my
 contacts and all my folders just to add %BCC="[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  I'm
 guaranteed to miss one or two.  Any ideas?

  Well, I haven't tried or ever used it, but a way of achieving what
  (I think) you want may be an outgoing mail filter that either
  forwards every outgoing message to that other account or generates a
  template based message to that account. Both are under the actions
  tab of the filter properties.

  But reading just now that you can do a file include... yes, that's
  probably the better option on long terms.






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Re: odd problem

1999-12-15 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Jason,

I was just noticing, if you have your mail checking every 5 minutes,
after 30 hours or so, you'd have about 360 checks before it stops
working correctly, right?  Is it possible that your log files are
getting too full?  Under account-properties-Options, try changing
the maximum log file size, see if that changes anything.  I would hope
not, but maybe worth a shot.

Hope this helps.
 

Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 3:34:30 PM, you wrote:

 Hello list,

 I have an odd problem that I've recently noticed. I leave my computer
 up and running 24/7, and also leave my e-mail program running 24/7 (to
 maintain my dialup internet connection so that the constant
 re-dialling of my linux dialup server won't bother anyone). Since
 switching to The Bat, I've noticed an odd pattern, though, that I'd
 like to know how to solve.

 I have The Bat set to download my mail every 5 minutes. This works
 great - for about 24 or 30 hours. Then, for no apparent reason
 whatsoever, The Bat stops downloading e-mail unless I click the
 download button. I have to close The Bat and relaunch it before it'll
 start automatically checking the accounts again. It's very bizarre -
 this afternoon it sat for almost 3 hours not downlaoding e-mail until
 I finally noticed it (I keep my e-mail program in the background while
 I work, and losing 3 hours of e-mail was a very big pain since I do
 customer service which a fast response is very important) and closed
 The Bat and reopenned it and ended up having to download over 100
 messages several hours old.

 Does anyone else notice this pattern and can anyone else give me a
 solution to it? I can't close The Bat at night because then it'd take
 20 minutes just to download my e-mail when I get into the office in
 the morning (I get over 1000 e-mails a day, about 500 of them during
 my off-hours), and I can't keep having huge gaps where no e-mail is
 being downloaded and I don't notice it until later.

 Any help would be appreciated.

 Thanks,

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Re: re's and regexp's

1999-12-15 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev

Hi there!

On 16 Dec 99, at 3:19, I wrote
about "Re: re's and  regexp's":

 ðÒÉ×ÅÔ, Jast!
 
 ÷ 20:10, 15 Dec 99, ÔÙ ÉÚ×ÏÌÉÌ
ÓÏÞÉÎÉÔØ ÐÏÓÌÁÎÉÅ "re's and  regexp's":

Whoops, seems that it's really time to go to bed for me:-) My 
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Re[2]: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.

1999-12-15 Thread tracer

Hello Thomas,
 
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:01:27 +0800 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 8:01:27 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
(snipped)

works on my machine.
Just ONE little question..
How do you make it:
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:01:27 (GMT+0800) your local time,
From what I see it means changing that expression.
And a BIG question..
What about answer to multiple addressees (g).
How do we get ALL the names in it.

By the way if one thing is clear from this, these expressions may be
powerful, but give me a scripting/macro option
This kind of capability needs either  many pages with examples or an
extra support to deal with all the questions and 1 may not be enough!

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Re: No canvas handle

1999-12-15 Thread tracer

Hello Douglas,


On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 at 06:55:57 [GMT -0600], you wrote:

Douglas Hello all fellow TBUDL members,

Douglas "No canvas handle" is the error message I get from TB when system
Douglas resources get low (which also is reported, shortly afterwards). TB
Douglas requires more resources than other applications I run or is the first
Douglas to react. When this happens, first I close other programs, knowing
Douglas I'll have to reboot soon also. But often TB becomes locked into a
Douglas rapid chain of "No canvas handle" messages and I have to close it
Douglas using cntrl+alt+delete, which closes all open messages being read or
Douglas composed along with it.

Douglas The computer being used is old and the problem may be related to video
Douglas memory, which is is only 1 mb I believe. Am I correct in my diagnosis
Douglas and are sources available for VESA video cards with more memory? (In
Douglas case anyone else knows). Other comments? I'm already using v 1.38e of
Douglas TB. Thanks in advance.

Douglas Best regards,

Douglas Douglas Hinds



Douglas Hello all fellow TBUDL members,

Douglas "No canvas handle" is the error message I get from TB when system
Douglas resources get low (which also is reported, shortly afterwards). TB
Douglas requires more resources than other applications I run or is the first
Douglas to react. When this happens, first I close other programs, knowing
Douglas I'll have to reboot soon also. But often TB becomes locked into a
Douglas rapid chain of "No canvas handle" messages and I have to close it
Douglas using cntrl+alt+delete, which closes all open messages being read or
Douglas composed along with it.
No idea but it sounds like it wants to draw something and cannot.
maybe a low memory problem?? too many files open???

Douglas The computer being used is old and the problem may be related to video
Douglas memory, which is is only 1 mb I believe. Am I correct in my diagnosis
Douglas and are sources available for VESA video cards with more memory? (In
Douglas case anyone else knows). Other comments? I'm already using v 1.38e of
Douglas TB. Thanks in advance.
Where I am the PCI cards are getting rarer but they are around in 2
mb.
You probably find it easiest to get a working one from a local shop
where the owner upgraded if new ones are scarce...
if you have the old ISA slots for video, I donot know of any current
card which you can use...

Douglas Best regards,

Douglas Douglas Hinds




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Re[3]: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.

1999-12-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi tracer,

on Thursday, December 16, 1999, 10:15:37 AM GMT+0800, tracer wrote:

 As you see, on my office computer, I'm still using the old reply
 template :-(

t On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:01:27 +0800 GMT your local time,
[...]

t works on my machine.
t Just ONE little question..
t How do you make it:
t On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:01:27 (GMT+0800) your local time,

I thought about the same thing. You have to add characters "(GMT+"
asnd so on, into the output. I am not familiar with RegExp, and I
would have to play around. I don't know the answer yet, but I'm sure
it's possible.

t From what I see it means changing that expression.
t And a BIG question..
t What about answer to multiple addressees (g).
t How do we get ALL the names in it.

I just use the time as per header, and the name will be according to
your macro: %OFromName, %OFromList, etc.

t By the way if one thing is clear from this, these expressions may be
t powerful, but give me a scripting/macro option
t This kind of capability needs either  many pages with examples or an
t extra support to deal with all the questions and 1 may not be enough!

That's correct. I think you have to "learn" it like any other
programming or scripting language.

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Re: Here`s my problem...

1999-12-15 Thread tracer

Hello Adam Golebiowski,
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:01:57 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 11:01:57 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Adam Golebiowski wrote:

Adam Welcome,

Adam   My problem is:
Adam   Sometimes (last times more often) whike checking for new mail and
Adam   recieving it, the bat shows some error messages, about mail saved in
Adam   the_bat\mail\account\inbox\folder\bad.tmp (where  is some
Adam   number in hexadecimal format). When I repair the messgaes with
Adam   mbrepair.exe, and try to import it as unix mailboxes, whole repaired
Adam   message base is improted as one, single letter... well, it stops on
Adam   about 200 kB, with an error message something about memory... (I
Adam   have 64 MB RAM)...
Adam   anyone can help???
Adam   Also, when I repair another broken msb, it`s imported without any
Adam   problems...
maybe this ONE (?) box has a serious problem.
As Unix boxes can be read with wordpad you can at least get your
data out  but if repeated repairs on the same box keep giving problems
I would consider replacing that box and start clean and store the
messages as split msg files. Thats by the way if I remember what the
Bat does anyway if you backup...
Presumably there is something wrong which you could fix with a
hexeditor but it means checking the part where it goes wrong.
maybe all you need to do is on a copy (!), scrap one msg.


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Adam \ Gobiowski + PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SEND%20PGP /


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Re[2]: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.

1999-12-15 Thread tracer

Hello Alexander V. Kiselev,
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 23:01:23 +0300 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, December 16, 1999, 3:01:23 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:

 As far as I'm concerned, this is why God made programmers.

Alexander I'm not a programmer, Paula:-)) I'm a mathematician...
Thats worse (g)


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Re[3]: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.

1999-12-15 Thread tracer

Hello tracer,
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:39:15 +0700 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 2:39:15 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
tracer wrote:

tracer Wednesday, December 15, 1999

tracer On  Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:49:50 +, tracer wrote:    its  2.37 pm 
time zone +7
tracer I can see a problem though...
tracer Try opening and responding to an OLD email. It gives you the wrong
tracer day/time...
tracer My mistake
obviously I have already grabbed another version and it works...after
some mods(g). Maybe we should collect the working ones together and
supply them as demo for the help file.
Different ways of doing the same thing is a good way to see what
differences are in result.

(snip)
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