You can in Touchs settings ( not in LMS in the players own settings )
set both interfaces to the large one . Then it's permanently showing the
remote UI
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Have you actually toggled between the different now playing so screens ?
Just touch the middle of the screen and it shifts to the next one , e is
one with no picture just large text filling the area vu-meter , spectrum
etc...
dhallag wrote:
> steve -- looks like you hit the problem. when playing with coax,
> absolutely no problem. i played 192/24 files over coax for many hours
> yesterday and this morning after a rest just to be sure and no
> skips/pauses at all. in researching this I see that others have had
>
Even if optical 24/192 is in the spec it can be hit and miss .
Remeber that Touch's parts where never speced for this rate , this is
usually not a problem for coaxial as the bandwith is trivial .
But the cheap optical components used in toslink has a different spec ,
the interface was never
Julf wrote:
> Except that a lot of the "Hi-res" stuff is actually normal CD material
> that has been upsampled. So what you are buying is a lot of empty bit
> padding.
.. And noise fresh from the studio :) but that said there are
exceptional exceptions from the norm AIX records or 2L etc , but
adwiegert wrote:
> Do tell? I'm knew to this side of audio, coming from a very large CD
> and SACD collection and Ayre 5 series components. I'm way behind the
> curve as to best places to buy HD music.
>
> In addition to HD Tracks, I've bookmarked Acoustic Sounds, Pro Studio
> Masters, some
Any source on that with a proper level matched blind test ? Sighted
anedtodes contains no information due the level of bias and suggestion
etc are much higher than the phenomen you try test .
Modern well designed DAC's are several magnitudes better than the human
hearing and especially in our
Try the headphone out or the spdiff or toslink ,make sure its not muted
trynthe volume control
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That's better, do you run a local LMS server at all ? Seems like you are
connecting directly to mysqueezebox.com this should also work fine .
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iPeng works fine usually .
Make sure the iThing is on your network at the same subnet not on 4G or
something
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2
RonM wrote:
> i had prepared a substantive response, but lost it all through
> navigation. Bottom line is that I seldom use the device-based control,
> so therefore don't much care about the screen issues for Touch or
> Transporter. I never, I mean never, use the device controls, only the
>
drmatt wrote:
> The only other thing I ever heard about was dodgy power sockets on
> Radios
loose power socket can happen on the others too for example SB3 I've
forgot that and the IR diode on the remote can get loose needing
resolder .
I have not started up my SB3 in many years , hopefully I
Screens yes the SB3/SB2 transporter and Controller is known for
fading/failing screens ? But just to be safe i use Touch screens
sparsely ( If someonr cold fix the anoying bug that turns on the
backligth when the server is off ?).
SB2 can get a sticky surface . Boom's rubber cannalso get sticky
Save the screen use the black/blank screen saver as much as possible .
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
And it's seems to be upnp/dlna ?
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: Touch + powered
Oh players can always be wifi in the wol scenario ,it's usually the
server that's needs to be on Ethernet ..
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2
Yes the PC falls asleep .
If you continue to play music does it stay connected ? And then you have
to wake the PC next time you want to play music ?
Then there is WOL ( wake on LAN ) a setting in the PC's network card
that lets it be waken by network activity . Squeezebox players are so
nifty
Factor in the very slow CPU and tiny memory of the Touch ? an EQ has not
that much lower cpu demands than room correction .
Maybe a Picore or mx2play raspi ?
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FYI
http://update-origin.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/7.9.0/
Does not have any newer fw if a rare upgrade would happen ( very
unlikely ) it would go here to or in the 7.8.1 dir.
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Found the firmware links again .
http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/7.8.1/
fab4 is the Touch firmware , baby is the radio firmware and jive is the
controller .
Wow it must been like 6 years ago I did this with a controller or more ?
jazzwave wrote:
> Yes I have account.
>
> Previously I can update software version but now stuck in 7.7.3.
> I'm running EDO, output digital only.
> Able to listen radio on-line, connected to internet through Wifi
>
> I open web mysqueezebox.com , found:
> Type: Squeezebox Touch
> Status: Not
I have a setup similar to a NAS a HP microserver running a Linux server
OS ( no gui or desktop ) administration remetoly via web browser and
comand Shell , just like a NAS .
If i did this today an intel NUC would be a thing to consider .
The thing is to not cheap out on CPU and memory if you
daleyb wrote:
> Thanks Garym. Good Sensible advice - yet again. I need Baby Steps here (
> I really only have just started walking with DBPA/MP3TAG etc..) 1 thing
> at a time...I may not even need NAS my library is small compared to
> yours and it well may do (for now anyway)...
>
> One more
piperpilot12w wrote:
> I downloaded LMS 7.9 through the link you provided.
>
> How do I update the firmware on the Touch?
> I also have a Transporter, is there an update for that? It says version
> 87
LMS checks every 24hr or somesuch , you will be prompted , but you can
do it manually .
FW
That's the latest oficial one , supported by Logitech .
However there are community releases .
Latest LMS beta 7.9 http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.9
Google and you shall find 7.6 , 7.8 and 7.8.1 too .
Touch fw is at 7.8 something
PasTim wrote:
> ... and don't need (want) 192kHz on coax?
You may need that if your server can't transcode and you insist on
shopping 24/192khz files or you use DSD over DoP :)
Formats can be user fixable . USB output not so much that's the great
contribution , not needing to run the
Grendizr wrote:
> or maybe even better ... why not having an option directly on the LSM in
> order to disable the transcode .. then this will become real pass-thru
> and no need for any plugin !
The limitation is in the player 24/48 is what the SB3 can do even on its
digital out it can not
Logitechs spare site is really really hard to navigate ? There are more
spares and stuff than you imagine :)
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2
Guy48065 wrote:
> Swenson's linear supply is just a basic 3-pin regulator chip? Is there
> something special about the LT1084 that's a big improvement over a
> LM317-vintage regulator?
Yes . But the thing when he designed this was the primary inductance
"L1" a chunky 10mH thing this makes it a
w3wilkes wrote:
> I would also suggest a static IP for the box running LMS. The Duet
> doesn't like it when the LMS server IP changes.
Thats what my lan looks like all my wired stuff has static ip trough
switches I can reboot or mess with my router without interrupting the
wired part of my LAN
Yes just sticking a wire to it does not make it Ethernet you must
reconfigure .
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
Search and you find this
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97146-Qobuz-com-streaming-plugin
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2
A powered USB hub ? btw have you tried a very limited library size on
the "broken" hard drive ?
If the collection had grown over time you migth have reached the point
where the limited server on Touch won't work anymore .
Or you added some problem file that kills the scanning process .
He probably mean a drive with its own power supply .
imo the prublem with usb powered drives is thier power usage sometimes
they overload a perfectly on spec usb port .
That problem does not exist with self powered drives .
I would just buy any . But ive would imediatly unistall all kinds of
It also helps to know that there is nothing special with any squeezebox
so controlling "duet" is no difference for an app .
So an APP that controls any squeezebox controls all of them , just like
the squeezebox controller can control other squeezeboxes ( even ones
that predates it )."duet" is
Not that I know off , when the Touch was new there was a lot of
complaints about its lack of customisation possibilities and that most
settings are in the player and not on the server .
However there is a custom clock app ? If I remember it can be used to
make a customised now playing screen .
Yes good wifi receptions is crucial , I think I have >90 everywhere .
Notice one thing when running LMS on a real computer SoX resampling and
flac and faad and lame etc works :) sounds like gibberish ?
These are apps installed with LMS that helps transcoding and playback of
formats that are not
If the modem handles your internet conection dhcp etc you probably just
needs simple ethernet switch to multiply the aviable ethernet conectors
( the most simple switches just do that and require no configuration or
settings )
Mikethehunterguy wrote:
> I appreciate the help here. I have been using the SBT as a local p!ayer
> for a while. It does take forever to scan and load the USB drive every
> time I power up, but it has worked so far. Tonight I am going to try to
> run high resolution over my WiFi and see how that
Supply is suspect if the FW is factory restored (button at the back )
and no modification or apps (EDO ,TT3, Clock screensaver etc ) . Afiak
its designed to reboot when squeezplay crashes it must always run . It
can possibly be the odd crash now and then and the Touch quietly reboots
.
Hi there is it the LMS web UI in general that don't work or the
ickstream part or just tidal . With chrome ?
If you don't want to run IE ( who wants that ) run Firefox in the
meantime .
Browser issue clear cache ? Maybe .
Also was it not some tidal/wimp issue going on recently , maybe try
Guy48065 wrote:
> It has not misbehaved since that initial hook-up. If by "defective"
> headphone switch you all mean a likely dirty contact--I'll deal with
> that directly instead of installing app band-aids.
>
> Still doesn't make sense why the digital output would be cut off when
>
Yes the squeezeboxes have several onboard small smps regulators the 5v
is not enough for all its circuits .
Anyone having THD + noise measurement out of the analog output of
squeezebox with the original psu vs an aftermarket unit ?
That's exactly what we want to see . And afaik no one has
Yes if make triodes plugin show under radio you have acess to both off
them .
It's a bit weird that we have to use both never though about it ?
The official to get acess to more than one stream , different for each
player .
But I did not now that the triode plugin was necessary to make sync
pippin wrote:
> That's not true. I regularly sync using the 3rd party plugin, too.
> Playing two different streams at the same time only works on Touch and
> Radio and only if you don't enforce playback through the 3rd party
> plugin but that does work for the OP
Oh yes I forgot , I have a mix
pippin wrote:
> No, using a server but 7.7.2 IIRC, don't know whether that's relevant
> here.
There is a corresponding server side plugin , to the official
mysqueezebox.com app ?
Another test , run 7.9 on another machine laptop desktop what you have ,
if the problems magically disappear then
Also the plugin was recently modified . So you may have to uninstall it
on both players and reinstall it from mysqueezebox.com
It was announced a while back on the forum , it's a sticky somewhere .
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Tidal is the one ive tried it worked ,best guess is that about 80% what
they stream are actually lossles if they dont have it in lossles you get
mp3. You got t use thier premiium service for that ots about twice the
price of spotify.
But as most streaming services ,its the record labels that do
This only supported with logitechs official Spotify plugin . And both
players must be on the same mysqueezebox.com account .
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MeridianDSP5200
Oh yes CD quality in engineer lingo is 2ch 16 bit 44.1 kHz . Very
precise .
"cd quality" as marketing fluff or audiophile nonsense can be just
anything .
But I think on audio forum CD quality can unambiguously be assumed as
16/44.1 audio .
In marketing it has even been abused to sell cassette
You tap in the midlle of the screen somewhere and cyckle trough the
diffrent screens (VU meters, spectrum, picture etc )
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MeridianDSP5200
2string1 wrote:
> A better router will not better the sound correct.
No it either works or it does not .
If it was the case downloaded files would sound different depending on
thier path to you .
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Hmm I'm also somewhat suspicius to non standard geometry it migth not
work as good as a real a cable . But in practice for the data needs at
home it migth not matter in practice
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2string1 wrote:
> I'm sure it's been asked. Maybe even by me. I can't remember. Any
> advantage in using a higher end ethernet cable to the Touch. Cat ? would
> be the best?
THATS NOT HOW THINGS WORK [/B]. THE ADVANTAGE IS PURELY ON THE SELLER
THEY GET YOUR MONEY
LOOK AMONG NORMAL DATA CABLES
Are you connected to your local LMS doing this ?
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen:
Wonder why they are so secret about releasing schematics .
The product is old and it's not any revolutionary implementation of
anything .
If the competition was interested they bough a couple of them,
desoldered ther components and reverse enginerred with not much effort
...
One of the problems is that Touch has only 128mB of ram one no swap .
Some clever dude did a mod to let the Touch swap onto the attached
memory card or attached USB thing . No plugins and no web UI makes it
unusable anyway .mand prolly the image processing a would be so and so
if you favourite
Apesbrain wrote:
> I'm curious about this. Ages ago I installed EDO on my two Touches and,
> though I now play nothing above 24/96, never bothered to remove it. It
> is your experience that EDO somehow diminishes the Touch stock sound
> quality when played via external DAC?
Not its just added
d6jg wrote:
> You can also stream Ogg files from Spotify at 320kbps but whether that's
> considered better than MP3 at 320kbps is again a matter for debate
All this can be blown away by two other issues .
Which version/master is it , the major factor in SQ . There are some
masters of some
2string1 wrote:
> Thank You... currently I have the touch connected with a S/pdif cable to
> my Tubedac 11. I have EDO installed. The usb on the tubedac is not the
> best input. I have a Auralic Vega dac coming tomorrow and they say the
> USB in the way to go. So I just wanted to know if I
2string1 wrote:
> What is the best connection from the computer to the Touch? Ethernet or
> USB. What is the best connection from the Touch to a DAC?
Touch is a network streaming client it has Ethernet or wifi for the
streaming part , it will not act as soundcard. The server is
Logitechmedia
I have used WIMP/TIDAL with flac it works .
Btw further up in the tread mherger just says that deezer do not support
flac directly on a Touch .
( you need a computer + LMS + ickstream and possibly buying deezer
premium via sonos ).
Remove the sound check mods , you gain zero sq but
I stopped my tidal subscriptions a while back and are now on Spotify
again (320kb ogg )
But when on tidal hifi I did notice that only about 80% was flac and
they where very slow on the uptake to fix the remaining MP3 only files .
But that was my use case how much MP3 only still in thier system
Yes in many countries logitech still keeps spares for some squeezebox
stuff , check that out first . But i have to say that logitechs online
stores are a horrible shopping experience :) but you do ,get the stuff I
bougth some batteries when i still used my Controller and i equiped my
radio with a
Note to Logitech hardware developers .
SB2 gets sticky BOOM gets sticky , The Touch remote gets sticky .
Don't use that material it has no longevity :)
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Yeah but the signal may still be there even in the off state , there is
apearently a proper way to signal "no sound" in the spdiff standard ,but
some equipment do and did the adhoc solution to just turn off the
circuit completely or expect no voltage ( if it's in the recieving end
). There are
The question needs much more details about op setup to be possible to
answer ?
The kernel is supposed to auto download from the Internet .
Op has for some reason downloaded a kernel.bin file ?
Try with a factory reset touch connected to Internet , Ethernet if
possible , install the app and try
Pascal Hibon wrote:
> The official specification for coax S/PDIF is RCA not BNC.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/PDIF The professional AES interface even
> uses an XLR connector!
> Since the S/PDIF signal is quite low frequency, the connector won't have
> much influence on the signal anyway. I
Its is in the very few cases where it matters depending on the devices
you use . So one cabt really say .
However spdiff usually measures better under good conditions . The
consumer grade optocouplers are usually not the fanciest one can get
None of these aftermarket guys measure the thing where it matters ?
The analog out after the internal DAC is there a diffrence or not ?
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MeridianDSP5200
Pascal Hibon wrote:
> What exactly is wrong with the Touch digital?
Not much , but the sales pitch for these things are jitter or something
. In reality almost every source component these days have good enough
digital out . But in the audiophile world that does not work ;) you
simple can't
2string1 wrote:
> It hasn't been that long 9 days but I have sent him many emails with
> absolutly no responce. After ready that link I feel I've been had...
You are quit right you have been had , he's been doing this for years .
I too ordered one of his supplies back in 2007 when I was more of
Something wrong with the cables ? Or that particular input on the amp ?
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sub.
2string1 wrote:
> I am coming from my router with a Ethernet cable to the Touch...What
> would be the best output from my Touch to a Grant Fidelity Tubedac 11?
> USB or S/Pdif
Just pick one , should not really mater however the spec for this DAC
says that the USB is "limited" to 24/96 since you
Nobody has ever demonstrated that any reasonable tweaking change affects
the digital outputs in any way good or bad .
There are tons of anecdotes and audiophile lore about it and sighted
testing ,this does not really mean anything .
With unreasonable tweaking you can have it "different" :D
The internal dac in touch supports "only" 96kHz so EDO wont help you
there . EDO makes the USB out an option and the spdiff output 192kHz .
Volume control in squeezebox is a 24 bit digital thing . I dont think
you going to have any problems with this but i can't really prdeict the
result i dont
Howard Turkster wrote:
Thinking we had a power surge that may have fried my Touch. With Touch
plugged in I can still see some red light coming from back. Does this
unfortunately mean that it's not the power supply that is fried but the
Touch itself?
Already tried rebooting and resetting
philipbergman wrote:
Does LMS do this automatically? I've looked at the settings in
'advanced/file types' but I don't see any relevant settings options for
transcoding.
Yes don't alter the filetypes setting unless you have specific issue to
solve .
The player reports to LMS what it can do
PasTim wrote:
I would have thought the variables are more likely to be on your server
than the Touch, particular when (if I understand correctly), playing
from a USB drive on your server behaves differently from playing from a
local drive on your server. I also wonder whether ALAC is being
Not by itself .
But via two options you can .
*Try out the EDO app that installs directly on the Touch this makes the
spdiff and USB output up to 24/192 But not usings it's analog ouputs
(they go silent) .
*Let LMS server transcode the files to 24/96 then it will play on all
outputs on the
Some of mine
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sub.
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
Misc
castalla wrote:
I tried to add the xml url - nothing shows up under wallpapers ...
Do I have to add a specific wallpaper jpg ?
Yes download or make a picture keep them in a special directory , then
you populate the artwork page from there .
Aha maybe i reshare some of mine , not at home now :)
I do have tubes in one of my Touch ;)
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Good to see some new ones :) there is an old dead tread buried somewhere
with things like this. We did some of these for the old controller and
radio too .
Apart from giving an unique look you can use them to differentiate
players . When you for example use a Touch Radio or Controler to operate
What version of LMS on what platform you may have to do a rescan use
latest 7.9 .
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agentsmith wrote:
But it is playing the DSD files if I browse the folder, and plays
beautifully without displaying anything in the playlist
Are these DSF or DFF files . DSF has better tag support and it's those
that LMS can read the tags from . Or i supose you could go with cue file
along the
Supose you have found the player settings for the play DSD plugin and
chosen DoP for the Touch rather than transcode to flac.
Would it matter much with a Devialet if the server converts to a PCM
stream instead of DoP as the whole machine probably uses PCM processing
?
I was just thinking that the Devaliet has DoP capability for
compatibility reasons to cater for these files as audiophiles tends to
get these nowadays .As DSD is a rather peculiar format that's normally
played back by special DSD DAC's .
Any processing at all requires it to converted to PCM like
To send DSD DoP to a DSD capable DAC you use the play DSD plugin for LMS
and the EDO app on the Touch,
To play DSD converted to flac you only need the play DSD plugin ( this
is what i do for th extremely few sorthwhile albums aviable as DSD only
, when i cant buy pcm)
Plays DSD plugin can make DoP streams for players capable of
24/196 .
EDO app does two things makes the Touch spdiff
24/196 and enables the Touch USB output for audio
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Nerver used the ir blasten plugin , but it has limitation when used with
a Touch .
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Jeddie wrote:
Got my 2nd hand SBT working (Firmware: 7.8.0-r16754), but, I was
wondering what it would sound like via USB to my Amp/Dac (model 651A).
This amp has a DAC built in. Checked the list in the EDO thread and it
is not mentioned.
Here's what the manual says -'The 651A is USB 1.1
cfseibert wrote:
So, you think this Touch could be working correctly, just not reporting
correctly? And how could I confirm that? I guess to answer my own
question, I could carry the thing to the house of a friend who has a DAC
that reports incoming sample rate.
Or set some debug
r11bordo wrote:
Any system or developer expert to create a software version which allow
to bypass LMS and MySqueezebox.com and to use a SBT with a Upnp server ?
:o
Yes probably a lot of hard work , but then much off what makes a touch
what it is would disappear the touch menu structure is
There is presets and there is favourites .
The presets where mostly for the numbered buttons on radio and boom .
But can be made to work on a Touch as you describe it .
The presets are player and server specific ( tied to both player and
server , mysb.com is also a server ) .
Then there is the
Cut-Throat wrote:
Correct my dots also do not represent the # of characters in my
password.
The only reason that I brought this up, is that I am unable to get the
Triode Pluggin for Spotify working on my Friend's Computer. I thought
that this may be a clue as to what is wrong. I have set
Man in a van wrote:
Edit: I don't think the player will make any difference.
I'm about out of ideas.
It must be either a network malfunction or the correct details have not
been entered into the Triode plugin.
I suggest that you log into your Spotify account and check all entries
are
Man in a van wrote:
Ah. I didn't know that; I'm an old fashioned sort of bloke :p
atb
Ronnie.
yes if you got spotify before they teamed up with facebook you already
have the rigth kind of credentials .
Main hifi:
what kind of squeezebox ?
The official app avibale from mysqueezebox.com only works on Radio and
Touch .
For older squeezeboxes you have to run a third party server plugin in
LMS (by Triode ) .
This is mainly because of hardware limitations in the old players , the
encryption choosen by
weltin wrote:
Thank you for your response. I have the touch. Might be because I live
in South Africa and it seems Spotify not avalable to us.
Yes thats probably it , the app meny changes with country settings ,
mysqueezebox.com does not show you apps that wont work where you are .
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