plates.
Wired Ethernet is always better and faster and more reliable than any
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core desktop
computer. Ever.
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listing of products. Nearly zero editorial copy.
Remember, subscribers are not the audience that a buff book cares about,
they are just the product.
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end
Mercedes-Benz cars in Car-and-Driver, now compare the number to the
number of articles about Chevy Malibu or mid-level Toyotas. Hint, a lot
more people buy the Chevy and Toyotas than buy the Porsches and M-B. Bot
you can't tell that from the number of pages of copy in the books.
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on this, but the
current TAS has at least two gratuitous pretty ladies: Vincent, Renohifi,
At least the high end brandy and cigars are likely not to run away from
the middle aged white guy who is into stereo stuff.
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At least in audio gear, there are niche manufacturers, I would hardly
call Mercedes Benz a niche manufacturer, even though all of their cars
are priced about twice what I think any car is worth. (and I drive a
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is not going to be in the list, because the folks who subscribe
expect to see audiophile companies.
I'm amazed that the Transporter ever got reviewed.
Think about what the business of these audiophile magazines is.
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: stop using WiFi and use a wired connection.
Gigabit switches are cheap.
Ethernet is all about collision detection and retry. That wastes a lot
of bandwidth. Its not a bug, its a feature.
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was asking for other users experience and their transfer rates.
No, getting 25 % is good. Getting 10% is common with other WiFi
It has nothing to do with the Touch's CPU or NIC
Its a feature, not a bug
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claimed that DSD was better. In and of itself.
Its not a bad archival format. But it never was really an audiophile
format, Even at best,there is wicked noise shapeing to move any
20kHz-40kHz noise out of hearing.
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in Brooklyn. I don't know anyone who has one :-) but I have been tempted.
Carpenters have been doing cool stuff with wood for thousands of years.
Its idea for custom work.
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is mostly the fault of
badly set expectations. It does what it does delightfully.
Its not a big server.
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that there is no fidelity
there, high or low. Its shameful what they do to music these days
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audio quality?
Do you consider yourself to be an audiophile?
Is $300 a lot of money to you? or just a fine amount to spend on a hobby
gadget?
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, using
a laptop. The Touch's UI is so good, I don't have to use the laptop. But
only, of course, if you can actually reach it.
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onto the cause,
meaning and implications of something that may or may not have happened.
This thread is not worth the electrons spent spreading its content. IMHO.
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have cool touch UI, but they have all the features,
plug-ins, transcoding, etc.
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can't count that high.
Get an old free PC and put a real server on it.
You'll be happy
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implementation of SqueezeBoxCenter.
The Touch works great on a big thumb drive, and thats really mobile.
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. The TinySC is limited.
Get used to it.
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probably ok ?
Its great for a thumb drive or SD/Compact card (I forget which it has).
Its not a real server. Some marketing droid should be made to eat the
boxes that claim its limitless.
Touch is an excellent player btw
For sure. It is, and it sounds great.
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to be
dissatisfied.
I have never read the specs carefully, but it what you say is true, then
Logitech screwed up.
Having no limitations is a really bad idea, especially in the embedded
world. There are limits every time a developer turns around in the
embedded world.
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, Stereophile has done that. The reality is that its unlikely that
a mere $1000 DAC is going to be much better than a Touch.
Logitech makes mass market products. Get used to it.
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kdf wrote:
On 2010-05-10, at 10:18 PM, Michael Herger wrote:
What about Touch?
I'm not that type of guy. sheesh.
You say that to all the girls.
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who can hand solder 0402 but it drives him nuts.
This stuff is all expected to be placed by a robot, and soldered in a
flow oven.
the lack of space is really an
issue here. there simply isn't much!
That's what the engineers call a feature, not a bug.
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feature to add in some future release of the
Touch software. So if you want, feel free to enter a RFE into the bugzilla.
But don't hold your breath waiting or it, there are a lot of things that
will be more useful to more people more often already on the list.
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, this is a customer cooperative help forum. It is not where you go
for official support or for official product specifications.
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really care, when they do it is fine with me. But I am trying to
set your expectations. I just don't see Logitech doing it anytime soon.
Perhaps some third party developer will do it sooner.
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with me. But I am trying to
set your expectations. I just don't see Logitech doing it anytime soon.
Perhaps some third party developer will do it sooner.
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used a balance control once in the past 20 years.
When you were playing LPs or even CDs, you might need it. In the modern
world, you can fix it once and be done.
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for a decade.
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Phil Leigh wrote:
2) The mere fact that (audio) equipment ALWAYS sounds better after
being burned-in really should give you pause for thought. Why would
this be?
Its clearly the mind resolving the standard buyer's remorse.
Nothing more.
4) Human audio memory is rubbish.
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through a combo wireless router/game console type device is
going to yield good results is just not realistic.
I never suggested anything close to this.
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of
plastic or from a hard disk, thumb drive, etc. makes zero difference in
theory and in practice.
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. How you do that depends
on the router/modem.
In general, static IP addresses entered manually is a really bad idea.
That is how the Internet worked for the first years, and if you pick a
duplicate number, things break badly. That is why DHCP was invented.
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computer's IP address. And the
Touch is a computer.
Its your ISP, or the equipment that your ISP provided, does the assignment.
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, some retailers.
There are lots of Free Software licenses out there. Apache's, BSD's and
MITs are examples of free licenses that are free of the Stallman virus.
The proof that Stallman is right on everything is clear, since we are
all running Gnu/Hurd.
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analog output may beat it.
I do know that I preferred the sound of my Transporter to that of my
Benchmark DAC-1, which sells for about $1000 by itself.
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;
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works perfectly. I just installed DHCPdaemon on the same box as my
SqueezeBoxServer
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mortslim wrote:
If less SACD players are sold, Sony loses money.
Its very hard to see a case where Sony could sell fewer SACD players
than they are today.
As they said about Spock, He's dead, Jim
And it was never very viable.
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, not just loud music. The noise signal can cause
damage at loudness levels that are acceptable for occasional music
listening.
There have been many discussions and threads on this topic in the
audiophile section. I recommend you search there for recommended
attenuators.
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was for folks with a USB thumb drive to show
off a bit of music, or perhaps play music from an iPad or iPhone.
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the Cat6/Cat5 cable
Yeah, its expensive, but they are not going to sell zillions of them.
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is the same. Since
you only do it once, why not crank it up. Sure, it saves nothing, but
you are going to waste the CPU time anyway.
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maggior wrote:
I was wondering what was meant by here. Since here isn't really
here, is here the secret beta forum?
You do know, right, that the first rule of the secret beta forum is that
you never talk about the secret beta forum.
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Sakkerju wrote:
Surely hard to give any quantative figures, but estimates like
'accepted as Ipods' or 'accepted as SACD' or 'accepted like HD DVD' or
'BlueRay'
I would say close to SACD acceptance...
Just my guess, more than 3D TV, on order with SACD, which is not by
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, what will replace it? The Touch 2? or
Boom 2? Will the whole Streaming Media Division get closed down?
When Logitech closes it, will Dean and Sean buy back the rights for $42
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turn off your big computer 99% of
the time, and only run the Touch.
Users have been asking for this for years. It means that the Touch is
not a slim device and instead it is a complete computer.
Whether this is really an advantage or not is a personal decision.
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.
Search the forum postings, there have been tons of informed comments
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mass market audio thing
support 24/192. There are real cost reasons to not support it. Ergo, its
not going to happen.
If you think you must have 24/192, go elsewhere.
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Eric Seaberg wrote:
Of course to CONVERT from DSD to PCM it's going to end up 44.1/16, but
it doesn't start that way.
It may, but there is no reason it could not end up as 88.2/24 or some
other value.
PCM does not mean RedBook
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its done
Go back to the forums in the early September timeframe, there was lots
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up there, I'm not willing to say that the filters are inaudible.
I will say that 24/192 is silly. But a case can be made for 24/88.2 or 24/96
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iwannatouch wrote:
I'm sure I'd hear a difference if I spent $300 for a power supply.
Much more cost effective is $300 worth of acoustic treatment for your room.
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NewBuyer;517128 Wrote:
Just curious: What is the microphone for?
As far as I know it hasn't been enabled yet.
Clearly that is for future voice control.
Computer, play Led Zepplin III, loud
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, but until the units are released to retail,
there can be no experiments. I suggest folks wait until there are units
to test before arguing that any improvements are possible.
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a clueless retailer.
The Software has been working great for me for four months or so. There
are bugs, and the engineers are working to make sure its a great launch.
No one can predict when software will be finished. The only way to know
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in the
SqueezeBox Touch could end up being cheaper, as the engineers already
know the details of how to design for the screen.
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temerini wrote:
Why the Touch is not 24/192 capable?
Why should it be?
24/88.2 or 24/96 source material is rare.
Perhaps audiophiles care, but what other $300 devices provide your
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company, as they just did with Intel.
My bet, with zero inside knowledge, is that Oracle will put less and
less into MySql development over time.
A fork is one solution.
As are just using another open source RDBMS
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Anyone who says that he can predict when software will be completed is
either:
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2) using my technique, where when is defined as now
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over time.
But first, they have to finish it and ship the units.
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the software is really coming along nicely. Its all speculation at this
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Polar wrote:
WITHOUT having to install software on a computer or disk station (or
better: without the need of a computer or disk station)?
Yes, that is a major point of it.
Its complete as is. Put your music on a thumb drive, or USB external
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to run the server software
needed to do streaming, that is correct. And the Receiver doesn't have
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or some such title actually knows more
about when the software will be done than Andyg.
The only way that the Marketing folks know that software is done is when
the QA/QC folks tell them that it is done now. And the QA/QC folks don't
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speakers are located in the wrong place. Huge
improvements in sound can be had for no money, just move the speakers.
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thomsens wrote:
pfarrell Wrote:
Logitech, like most other sensible companies, does not comment of
future products.
In my experience, companies
usually don't talk about unannounced products (publicly), not
necessarily announced but not shipping products.
There is nothing to agree or
' Christmas season, its not clear that releasing
it December 15 will make any difference at all. Personally, I'm betting
on December 31. but I have zero information. Its just a personal opinion.
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to resurrect Ron Popiel to do
advertising for the Touch: It plays, it servers, it chops, it dices.
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, but its not going to replace that four year old PC with a AMD
or Intel gigahertz processor and a gig of ram.
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pippin wrote:
I can run a web server on a wristwatch these days.
With MySql?
Right
I will agree that there is a gray scale, but all the whining is driving
me crazy. The device is not released yet.
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software is much more fuzzy than you are making it out to be. Nearly
everything has a DSP.
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Engineers don't make product requirements.
MelonMonkey wrote:
I did mention I could refer an expert for a contract.
Many times, I trust you get a big kickback if you can do the referral.
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, use big
iron to do big iron stuff, use little iron to make it personal.
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it will slip into next year,
but I don't expect that.
As usual, all my personal opinion, I've been beta testing it, and its
cool, but I don't work for Logitech, SlimDevices/SMD or any related firms.
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more
slowly, by the time they get it included, we will all be using the next
great thing. The car companies and head unit vendors expected that
XM/Sirius would be the next great thing.
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a wicked fall-off. The popular stuff sells like
crazy, but one you fall out of the top-100 artists in the mainstream
genres, nobody sells any volume -- 2 thousand copies of an album is a
success if you are not the Rolling Stones or a Country group.
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don't know, and if I did, I could not say.
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, and with a little time, you can usually pick them up for
free.
In my years of using SqueezeBoxen, I've always just used an old PC that
was too slow to use as a desktop.
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