"Your friends need an ostel account too. To ensure your call security, ostel
service cannot make calls to land lines or SIM card phone numbers on cellular
networks."
It is something, but not a full solution. It is not practical for me to
contact any person or business I may want to call
I will check out Ekiga, thanks.
Ultimately I am looking for a libre "Ooma" where I can hook up an actual
phone and receive and send calls.
Comcast has some home phone option with a modem that has a jack for a phone.
But, I am thinking about changing ISPs so that won't be a long-term
I want to make voice calls from my home computer using my internet
connection. All the programs I've seen so far, appear to be designed for
chat, or for use with a mobile phone, or they require both sides to
communicate via their PCs. Two questions:
1.) What is a good program for voice
It is in the repositories. If you open synaptic with:
sudo synaptic
and search for envy you will see the packages to install
Simple question: Have you updated your system?:
sudo apt-get update
and then upgrade:
sudo apt-get upgrade
"I guess i can't change that path via shell, because the shell won't
understand it due to the space characters. Right?"
You have three choices--that I'm familiar with:
1.) You can either put the whole thing in quotes:
sudo mv "/media/ra/TOURO Mobile 3.0" /media/ra/new-name
2.) You can insert
When you say, "change the name" are you referring to the mount point? When
you typed df and saw the mounted device is /dev/sdf1 it should also say where
it is mounted to, like:
Filesystem Mounted On
/dev/sdf1 /media/ra
If that is the situation, are you trying to change
"By the way, my external hard disk has space characters in its name and i
can't change the name"
Do you mean that if you wanted the name to be "hard-disk-name" it is instead
"hard disk name" ?
Where is the disk mounted? Type this in a terminal to find out:
df
Where are you, in what
"1 yes, everything under ~ should belong to you
2 you ran it as root with sudo icecat"
Thank you. That makes sense.
I think I know what happened. Recently I've been trying alternate ways of
starting a graphical session. From a VT I Usually type:
sudo lightdm
Then when I open gnome-terminal
"I'm not sure you're providing enough information."
You are right, sorry about that.
To disable and enable I click the button with three horizontal bars and
choose "addons" Then I see my addons and there are five of them, which are:
GNU LibreJS 6.0.10 (re-installed as part of
A couple of times I decided to disable and then enable LibreJS and now I
can't get it back. This happened once before and I solved it by reinstalling
IceCat. This time I tried running icecat as root and I also created a
temporary regular user to run icecat. LibreJS works with those other
How is:
sudo start lightdm
different than:
sudo lightdm
The second link I can download as a PDF, the first link only as an HTML
Thanks. my /etc/default/grub file is the same except I have:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
Instead of what is in the image you posted:
#GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="text"
I'm not sure what the difference is?
Also, I don't know what the
No. The file browser opens and in the bottom right there is a drop-down box
which says HTML and if I save the file it is an HTML file. With other
people's links the drop-down box in the file browser says PDF and when I
download the file it is a PDF file not an HTML file.
If you right
Thanks for the suggestion. I had not heard of the service program.
I tried the "service lightdm start" and it loaded lightdm. When I choose a
window manager and enter my password, the screen goes black and takes me back
to the login screen. I tried a few window managers and it does the same
Great suggestion! startxfce4 loads very fast!
For me the only drawback is that I often like to logout and switch between
different window managers. So if I figure out a lightweight way to switch
between window managers, then I will definitely use startxfce4 on a regular
basis.
This is
My desktop is configured to boot to a text-console. From there, when I want a
GUI, I start X Windows by typing in VT1:
sudo lightdm
The GUI starts in VT7 but I remain with the black screen in VT1 so I must
switch to VT7 manually with: Ctrl-Alt-F7
Now I am in VT7 and I see the greeter and I
The other links are probably links to links and yours are links directly to
files. Still, I don't know why that should matter. My point was not that
people here cannot access your PDF files, it was a question: why can I
right-click with the other links but not with yours?
Yes, javascript
"from experience mastering (comfortably) a trade usually takes 10 years."
Maybe, but you don't have to be a master bash script programmer to write some
very effective scripts, or even to be a system administrator! Mastery is
necessary if you are doing very complex things. Think of
Actually, I'm using the stock IceCat from Trisquel 7 on both my desktop and
laptop and in both cases I have the problem. I just diabled LibreJS and it
does not matter. With javascript enabled it works, with it not enabled it
does not work.
I tried with abrowser which has javascript
Excellent! Already I've learned more about commands I thought I knew well.
Even though I solve the exercises, I see that your solution is always
simpler!
Aside from the clear advice you give here all the time, these slides prove
what an excellent teacher you are. I've been a student in
For the other links in this thread I could just right-click on the link and
choose "save link as" and it saves as a pdf file. For Magic's links this did
not work for me.
Instead, click the link. If you use IceCat and have javascript enabled, the
viewer will display the PDF and you can
the pdf file links aren't working for me. They download as html files and
when I open the html files with icecat I get a "server not found" message.
The Linux Documentation Project Great! Sometimes I forget about this
excellent resource. Thank you for the reminder!
I should mention that you can use this with file names containing spaces:
touch this\ is\ a\ test
creates an empty file called "this is a test" there are three spaces and
there are three '\' to escape them.
In the example: he*llo you replace '*' with '\*'
In the above example a ' ' is
Before I answer, I will tell you how I found the information.
other than echo and read and variable names and control structures like 'if',
there are appear to be two programs used:
sha512sum | base64 -w 0
After reading the man page of both I saw at the end of the man page for
sha512sum:
-b, --backup
With this option, preexisting destination files are renamed
as
each file is transferred or deleted. You can control where
the
backup file goes and what (if any) suffix gets appended
using
the --backup-dir
"...with and without checking the make backup option?"
Are those the exact words used? Could you post a screenshot?
Looks like there are a lot of answers from here:
http://www.opbyte.it/grsync/
Perfect! All three of those work on my desktop. Thank you! The ones with
pactl that I listed above only work on my laptop.
For mute, this only turned the sound off, but I could not turn it back on!:
bindsym XF86AudioMute exec amixer -q set Master toggle
Instead for mute this worked for
"I'm trying to push the project forward to release it sooner."
This is my whole point. You cannot push to make them release it sooner. You
have no power, they will release it when they are ready.
"Just waiting for the new release to come out is easy."
Whew! Awesome! I'm glad you realize
I like it. It is really good for working with multiple windows without
having to switch between them. Lately I've used Trisquel and XFCE more, but
I still have i3wm available to me when I feel it is especially suitable.
I like trying out different window managers. Next I will give
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/do-we-have-date-trisquel-8-release
In the last post of the above thread, iscutwo says:
"...it took 7 months from Ubuntu 14.04 until Trisquel 7, and 11 months from
Ubuntu 12.04 to Trisquel 6. So at that rate we would be waiting at least
until early 2017. Let's
"...letting this project die?"
Why do you think it will "die"? Because the release of Trisquel 8 is
happening 'too slowly'? Slow progress is not the same as no progress.
This is not our call. Trisquel is not a democracy. It is Ruben's project. If
you are suggesting Santi help Ruben, that
Then the only thing I can suggest to try at this point is creating a new user
and seeing if things work as a new user. If it does, that will help
troubleshoot what to do with your current user.
Before answering the following list of questions, have you tried the
following:
Create a new, regular, user. Then log in as that new user. Do you have the
same problems as the new user?
Just to clarify the details of your system:
0.) "i have copied the home folder via deja dup to
"Recipients cannot help being influenced by their donors"
You are trying to compare this issue with campaign reform and similar
corruption issues. But there are at least two big differences: ease of
impeachment, and number of issues.
It is easier for politicians to break their promises to
For reference, the following is a transcript of Stallman's statements, from
the above video, regarding why the goal of innovation should be less
important than the goal of freedom.
"Freedom is more important than technical progress, more important than
innovation. Our society puts too much
So, believe it or not, I had not heard of Jaron Lanier until I watched this
video. According to the interviewer, Lanier says that FLOSS suffers from a
lack of innovation. Stallman's answer, in brief, is that our society places
too much value on innovation. That innovations can be good or
"In truth, there are selfish people religious and nonreligious. We all make
ethical choices. It is profoundly cynical to say that people need to fear
divine revenge for not being good. I do good things because I want to help
people. Most people do too."
Beautifully said.
Sounds reasonable. Perhaps this supports that view:
https://developers.google.com/open-source/organizations
OK, now I see your point. It is true that different people understand things
in different ways. It is reasonable to adapt the style of the message to
your audience. Just make sure you are adapting the style only!
I really like root_vegetable's point:
" Try explaining it to young people
"I know you already like free software but this are for your comment"
Which comment?
Free software is software that has the four freedoms. If it is missing any of
these four freedoms, it is not free. Very simple.
The right to fair medical treatment or the rights regarding land ownership
I have many times read Stallman's personal page on how he does his computing.
He makes it clear that he is talking about his own personal choices and that
he is not making any recommendations for others. By contrast, in his
speeches he is telling others what he thinks they should do.
Well said. Sad, but true. It is the whole FUD thing over and over again.
I have family members--successful professionals with graduate degrees--that
will trust me with valuable possessions of theirs, and that know I have
training and experience with computers, yet if I suggest that I show
If you are not committed to freedom, why should you sacrifice the hardware
you have that has no free drivers? Why should you give up program X that you
need for work, that you like, that you know how to use, and with which you
have created years worth of data that is in an incompatible
Fair enough. Applied to the strategy I suggested, you would help the person
understand that her freedom is at stake. Explain to her that if she uses free
software she can be free. Explain to her that sometimes her freedom will
require a small sacrifice, for example a sacrifice of some
Many of your specific ideas are excellent and I love your enthusiasm.
Your general approach of getting them interested first, by showing them the
good things in free software, is reasonable. It sounds like a great way to
get people started. I have followed this approach myself at one point.
upvoted as well
Thorough, well organized, and well explained. It is nice to have all of this
information in one place. I will definitely be returning here many times for
guidance in making some of these changes.
Thank you!
Just installed this. Thank you!
I agree with everything you said. Still, it does not explain why vi is
installed by default and Emacs is not?
If you are going to have only one console-based editor it should be Emacs.
The first thing I do after installing Trisquel is download and install Emacs.
Why is it not installed by default on Trisquel?
As long as Emacs is not installed by default, you need to also know nano
(although you
I guess I can't edit my post if it is the first post of a thread?
Using the code tags put in the annoying "[at] and [dot]" So let us see if
this works. Here is the full command:
pal --mail -r 1 -c 0 | sendemail -f m...@domain.com -t m...@domain.com -u
"Today's schedule" -s
So I am trying to completely divest myself of all things Google. One major
feature I depend on, however, is email reminders from google calendar. For
some odd reason I have not found a libre program to do this (it must be out
there, but I've yet to find it). For the moment I am using a
Trying to use GUI programs whenever possible is perfectly reasonable.
It has been an off-and-on project of mine over the years to develop a large
enough repertoire of CLI programs so I could in theory go without X Windows.
Obviously, for things like presentation software, or pictures, or
I've been intending to try ratpoison this weekend. One concern I had was
regarding the browser. Of course I could use lynx, but a browser is one of
the most important GUI programs I use. I might as well not even run X
Windows!
So now that you mention Conkeror, I am excited to try it all
Following on this thread:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/whats-your-favorite-not-so-famous-application-trisquel
I thought it would be interesting to hear specifically about what CLI
programs people like.
editor: emacs
terminal: gnome-terminal
text-browser: lynx
email: alpine, mutt
"The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated"
-Mark Twain
I agree
"Like a brother in aRMS?"
*Groan* :-)
Here is an idea:
Let's wait to talk about this until after Trisquel 8 is released.
If anybody agrees with your script idea, it should still be done after
Trisquel 8 is released.
Spy untu yu lol, well done!
Is it easy to go from Windows to Ubuntu?
Is it easy to go from MacOS to Ubuntu?
It is just as easy to go from Slackware to Fedora.
It is just as easy to go from Ubuntu to Trisquel.
In all cases you download, put on DVD, and install.
What is the problem???
OK, I understand what the OP really wants.
Ubuntu 16.04 came out and the OP does not want to wait for Trisquel 8
Patience!
I understand exactly what you are saying. You want to make it very very easy
for an Ubuntu user to switch to Trisquel. They don't even have to think about
the decision, all they have to do is hit a button (run a script).
But what happens next? If they like Trisquel as much as Ubuntu, they
Be specific. What exactly do you want to do when you say "trisquelize"? What
is Ubtu?
Stallman discussed this on his personal site back on 4/22/16:
https://www.stallman.org/archives/2016-jan-apr.html
"The idea of a tool to determine whether a driver's phone was used for text
messaging at the time of an accident is fine in principle, but it is almost
impossible in practice
I agree. If the distro cared about becoming free software, you would not need
such a script--they would do it themselves. If they do not care enough, then
they will have respositories containing non-free software. This would make
them ineligible to become an FSF sanctioned officially free
I am also not a lawyer or an accountant.
I agree that paying salaries to employees that run a non-profit is no
problem. If one of those employee's is the owner (and probably also either
the President or CEO), there is nothing wrong.
The only potential problem is if the salary is
"Yes sir!"
Thank you sir. It is nice of you to return the favor.
No, that is from the mailing list. They send it automatically, unfortunately.
stop posting email addresses
Where did you cut and paste the quote from?
Hold down the ALT key and right-click on the icon. a tiny menu will pop up
where you can choose to move or delete the icon. Many people, myself
included, have found this design unnecessarily confusing.
Really looking forward to using Taler. I think they said 2016. Does anybody
know of a narrower time frame (i.e. summer, fall, month X, etc...)?
What I was referring to was the state of the drive before installation.
From what you are telling me, it sounds like the drive was brand new with
nothing on it. Then the installer formated, installed a file system, etc...
Well we did make progress. The live CD has a non-empty /proc
"The /proc/ folder on the hard drive is completely empty."
That doesn't sound good. Did you format the drive? What file system did you
put on it?
This file: lsmod.txt is it from the hard drive install, or the LiveCD? My
guess is that it is from the LiveCD, since you can't run commands so easily
when you are in the hard drive installation. When you use the LiveCD and
mount the hard drive, navigate the hard drive and find the file
A new thread was created in the troll hole for this. I encourage you to
resume the discussion there:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/science-denialism-academic-freedom-and-philosophy-science#comment-94661
"Skepticism is generally any questioning attitude towards unempirical
knowledge or opinions/beliefs stated as facts"
from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skepticism
I agree with your main point, root_vegetable. Your use of the term
"skeptics" in a disparaging way, however, is both
Well, the last line of dmesg says it can't mount some removable media. Do
you have a USB device attached?
The thing is, you are saying the laptop works perfectly when run off the
liveCD. Let's compare the modules. Use the LiveCD to access the
/proc/modules file that is on the HD and
Did you follow up on this post I made:
This person has a similar problem. It looks like modifying the initramfs may
be a solution.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/629922/linux-full-disk-encryption-password-prompt-completely-unreadable
same problem:
Sometimes it only takes a 4th grade science project to debunk a
pseudo-science:
" Emily Rosa, at 9 years of age, conceived and executed a study on
therapeutic touch. With the help of Stephen Barrett from Quackwatch, and with
the assistance of her mother, Linda Rosa, RN, Emily became the
What is revealing here is that your laptop works with Trisquel when using the
Live CD! In thinking methodically about what the difference is, I see it as
follows:
1.) It is the difference in media, which you are examining now. I agree that
it is probably not the answer.
2.) The content
"I also plugged the SSD into another pc of mine, there everything worked as
it should."
When you say that everything worked, do you mean that you could run your
Trisquel install from the SSD but on your PC? If not, then how did you test
the SSD drive?
Another alternative would be to install on a USB hard drive. I've done that
with Trisquel (as well as on my desktop and laptop). If the OP has a usb HD
or usb thumb drive, that would be a worthwhile experiment. Even if the OP
doesn't have a thumb drive, you can buy one for less than $10
Also, I'd forgotten about replacing a hd in a laptop. Even though I did it
to a thinkpad back in 2004 along with changing the RAM. Aside from the
internal changes, I remember I added an external sound card and a bunch of
other stuff. In the end I would have been better off buying a new
Does that mean he can put back the original and try installing on it?
Then my recommendation was that he try that.
When you say, "I've switched the HDD to a new SSD"
What do you mean exactly? This is a laptop correct? So is the SSD running
off USB? What happens if you use the original HDD for the installation?
This person has a similar problem. It looks like modifying the initramfs may
be a solution.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/629922/linux-full-disk-encryption-password-prompt-completely-unreadable
same problem:
also, have you tried resetting the terminal by typing:
reset
When you are accessing the system using the live CD, what output do you get
when you run dmesg and what can you find in the /var/log files
It wouldn't surprise me if you need to pass some parameter to GRUB. That
isn't something I know much about.
I have switched fonts in a virtual terminal before using setfont.
Make sure you are logged in the way you did before, and type:
setfont /usr/share/consolefonts/Lat7-Terminus28x14.psf
What happens if you try to start the GUI with:
sudo start lightdm
hit Enter
type in password
hit Enter
Then, if the screen is still black with white writing, try Ctrl-Alt-f7
Actually, maybe try Ctrl-Alt-f7 first and see if it is already started.
I like onpon4's idea.
What happens if:
1.) you try to switch virtual terminals with Ctrl-Alt-F3 (or F1, F2, F4, F5,
or F6)?
2.) You type in your username, hit Enter, then type in your password and hit
Enter?
On the lighter side:
GNUGo with cgoban: A Go playing engine with a GUI front end (cgoban).
Although you can use GNUGo in ASCII mode if you prefer a text-based version
use X11
More serious, but I am not sure how well known it is here (I had never heard
of it before): i3 window manager
I agree. Over the years, when I wanted a lightweight setup I would use
fluxbox or even window maker. Whenever I tried XFCE certain things didn't
seem to work and the whole thing just didn't seem worth it. In desperation,
during some test one day, after trying many other WMs, I tried XFCE
I will only make one post in this thread:
If I recall correctly, the argument was that this benefits MS Developers.
How does it benefit Ubuntu?
I don't have an answer for that, and I'd love to hear yours.
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