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cd: Easy Dah or you will get all worked up again -lose controlagain and be sent back to time out and be made to apologize to me all
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From: Dave Hansen
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DAVEH: Here I thought we might get to be friends, and then you suggest the LDS Church may have some obnoxious people in it. Shucks
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People are people, DH. Your church has just as many Deegan's in it as any. Maybe Dean or Deegan use such circustances
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From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: 1/3/2006 9:03:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
Dave, in your temple ceremony, who does it depict Satan paying to preach
his
message?
cd: A Baptist Preacher/Pastor
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What is this?
Dave, in your temple ceremony, who does it depict Satan paying to preach his message?cd: A Baptist
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What is this?
Dave, in your temple ceremony, who does it depict Satan paying to preach his message?cd: A Baptist Preacher/Pastor
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Next time you want to get my attention, you might try this, "HEY, JOHN "
:-)
And I still miss
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From:
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Hansen
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Sent:
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Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
DAVEH: Here I thought we might get to be
friends, and then you suggest the LDS Church may have some obnoxious
people in it. Shucks
DAVEH: Note to all TTers: It would sure help if you would either
address either of the Daves on TT with DM/DH or DavidM/DaveH, or some
other way that will make it easier for us to quickly recognize posts
meant for us. Thanx in advance.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
I meant to address the
I will consider this as agreement.
DAVEH: Yes.I don't think we are very far apart on this, Perry.
Just some minor details, in a sense. You are right though, it is the
larger picture of the resurrection that is most important.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
I meant to address the response
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Poor DM. I have not been a part of the Churches of Christ
for some 32 ye
you might find something interesting here
DAVEH: FWIW..Personally, I prefer Jeff Lindsay's
site.
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.jefflindsay.com/ldslinks.shtml
.over FAIR.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
I didn't have time to check all of the
"Protestants" are just one detestable group of pagans in the group
of "gentiles".
Doesn't it seem interesting that DaveH finds such intrique with a
pagan group like the "protestants".
DAVEH: What's with the pagan stuff, Perry. That sounds like
something you guys have called me, but
I know some to be followers of Christ , who know next to nothing
about Mormonism.
DAVEH: Care to say how you characterize me, Pastor? (If you would
rather not comment, that is OKI understand.)
if you disagree with that characterization, my comment about the
Mormon Church is further
DAVEH: Because it seems you may have missed it, Bishop
BTWWhy did you ignore my question about the dual nature of
salvation? Was that on purpose?.
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If you agree with Perry, then why the question?
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guys are only
denying your historical roots.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:04:52 -0500
Perry wrote:
In Paul's mention of the crucifixion, the resurrection
was implicit. Many were crucified, why would Jesus'
be any different unless the resurrection was in view
Perry: Bob Passentino is a name with which I'm familiar. My own interest in
Mormonism commenced in 1980.
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From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: January 03, 2006 01:20
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
Not a myth, Gary, but rather your statement adds clarification, that the
doctrine of Christ was not ultimately his own, but was of the one who had
sent him. You really should try not to be so sectarian and divisive.
John 7:16
(16) Jesus answered them, and said
Currently DM, this would define neither ALL
protestants nor ALL RCatholics..
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From:
David Miller
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 02, 2006 18:32
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophets
John,do you understand
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prophets
Some years ago, I quoted how the Encyclopedia Britannica classified the
LDS as a protestant group, but you did notagree with them. >From my
perspective, there are historical ways of look
ll,
could be more sectarian or divisive than those?
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Sent: January 02, 2006 14:28 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophetsNot a myth, Gary, but rather your
statemen
a prophet yourself, what do you
make of his God-given discernment?
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From:
David
Miller
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 02, 2006 18:02
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophets
Some years ago, I
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Sent: January 03, 2006 07:28
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophets
Canadians who sit in lofty towers on high passing hot
air . like they have all the answers.
On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 07:09:38
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophets
I would have said the same without the prophet
moniker and have believed this for a long time.
Bothhave the same rituals, handshakes etc. and
Freemasonry tries to blend into the professing church
in spite of the fact that it isanything
Taylor
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prophets
Canadians who sit in lofty towers on high passing
hot air . like they have all the answers.
lk@mail.innglory.org
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and prophets
Some years ago, I quoted how the Encyclopedia Britannica classified
the LDS as a protestant group, but you did notagree with
them.
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophets
Is this your "prophet" Lance? Stinking
Badges? It's a website all about movies something a person
speaking for God, one who can separate the holy from
the profane would have nothing to do with.. True
God will judge t
Dave, in your temple ceremony, who does it depict Satan paying to preach his
message?
From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
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Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 01:21:18 -0800
* Protestants
'occupied' by such 'spirits'.
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From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: January 03, 2006 09:03
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Dave, in your temple ceremony, who does it depict Satan paying to preach
his
You appear to be well informed. My frustration with you and Blaine is the constant confusing of your personal beliefs and the official version.
jd.
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Poor DM. I have not been a part of the Churches of Christ for some 32 years. My denominational background has nothing to do wi
Got lost in the shuffle. "Salvation"has more than one definition IMO. We are saved from judgment. We are saved from ourselves. Perhaps there are other considerations, We are not involved in the former. We are partners (ontologically speaking) in the latter.
jd
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.
See http://www.darryl.com/badges/
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Judy
Taylor
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Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 03, 2006 07:28
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles
and prop
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Sent: January 03, 2006 09:03 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophetsDave, in your temple ceremony, who does
it depict Satan paying to preach his message?
From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophets
You didn't answer my question Lance - Is Stinking
Badges your prophet?
As regards DavidM, the jury is out because I have no
way of knowing what he means by office; nor
do I have any frame of reference so far as testing
any prophetic word that has
DAVEH: Thanx for your consideration, Bishop.
Do your in-laws really speak of Protestants in a condescending
way? If so, that surprises me and I would like to apologize for them
doing so, as an LDS person myself. I think it reflects poorly on my
religion of choice when I hear such. I just
official version
DAVEH: I find that comment to be very interesting. You see, I think
many of the TTers have exactly the same problem with LDS theology.
They seem to want to take any given member's comment and consider it to
be an official statement. That simply is not the case.
Regardless
DAVEH: Here I thought we might get to be friends, and then you
suggest the LDS Church may have some obnoxious people in it. Shucks,
Pastor.you're the first guy to say something that might make me
want to leave Mormonism! :-D
BTWThanx for using DM / DH in your posts today. Makes my
Dave, I take it you do not believe that statement, thinking I made
it up, right?
DAVEH: No, I did not automatically make that assumption. I did not
take the time to research it on the net though, as I've been trying to
clean up my inbox tonight.tomorrow, I've got to head for home and
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BTWPlease don't understand my above comment to mean that I agree
with your statement.
Don't worry, Dave. From past experience, I did not expect you to agree with
my statement.
But, I'm not trying to argue with you about itI just want to understand
what did Paul preach that is not in the Bible? I will need Biblical
references
DAVEH: The easy example is from 1Cor 15:29. I bet there was a
shepherd there by the name of Perriwinkle Lockenstein who when he heard
Paul say
Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the
John wrote:
When you read this word, you see office
and argue from that perspective. When
I see the word apostle. I see function,
assignment, a specific and personal calling
to the exclusion of office.
I'm not sure what you mean by to the exclusion of office, but you have
basically given
John wrote:
I say that because the Mormon Church is so very
different from the first and pre-apostate church
found in the First and PreApostate Scriptures.
For the record, this is one area where John and I agree!
The greatest mistake the Mormon church did was re-establish a priesthood
that
Perry wrote:
The gospel didn't even have POWER until
he was rose from the dead.
I'm a little surprised by this statement. There are many Scriptures that
indicate that the preaching of the gospel by Jesus and his apostles did have
power. Jesus indicated that people were pressing into the
DaveH wrote:
If I remember correctly, you are a 4Sq
adherent, which as I understand it is a branch
of Protestantism.
John wrote:
That denomination did not come from the
Portestant response to RCC theology.
If I am remembering correctly, the historical root to the Four Square church
is
references, as in book, chapter, and verse of course. Notice: no
smilie.
Perry
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Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 00:55:38 -0800
*what did Paul preach
]
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Sent: January 02, 2006 10:01
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Perry wrote:
The gospel didn't even have POWER until
he was rose from the dead.
I'm a little surprised by this statement. There are many Scriptures that
indicate that the preaching of the gospel
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DaveH wrote:
If I remember correctly, you are a 4Sq
adherent, which as I understand it is a branch
of Protestantism.
John wrote:
That denomination did not come from the
Portestant response to RCC
Are you, DavidM, another Smith Wigglesworth?
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 02, 2006 09:39
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
John wrote:
When you read this word, you see office
and argue from
THE GREATEST MISTAKE?? Yikes! Maybe you need a short course on Mormonism,
DavidM.
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From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 02, 2006 09:52
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John wrote:
I say that because
06 10:01 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophetsPerry wrote: The gospel
didn't even have POWER until he was rose from the dead.
I'm a little surprised by this statement. There are many
Scriptures that indicate that the preaching of the gospel
by Jesus and his apostles did have
po
al Message - From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 02, 2006 09:39 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophetsJohn wrote: When you
read this word, you see "office" and argue from that
perspective. When I see the word "apo
Jesus is God, JT! Jesus pre-existed JT. My 'pipes'
are clean.
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Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 02, 2006 10:38
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophets
Lance
Perry wrote:
If Paul says he fully preached the gospel of
Christ...then I believe he fully preached the
gospel of Christ. What is your point?
DAVEH:
You have apparently made the assumption that
everything Paul taught is included in the Bible.
IMO, that is not logical.
Good point, DaveH.
'pipes' are clean.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 02, 2006 10:38
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
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Lance, God the Eternal
avidM, another Smith Wigglesworth?
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Sent: January 02, 2006 09:39 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophetsJohn wrote: When
you read this word, yo
: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophets
A believing man with the kind of childlike faith in
God's Word that gets results.
Amazing what can happen when we give God our all
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 10:44:26 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I did not sa
the resurrection part of the gospel? It was not complete until the
resurrection.
Perry
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 10:01:51 -0500
Perry wrote
: January 02, 2006 10:48
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I don't think so Lance, if they were you would
understand that God CAN NOT die or are
you of the same persuasion a certain Germanwho
proclaimedGod was dead?
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 10:43:26 -0500 "Lance
Lance wrote to Judy:
When you say 'I don't think so, Lance', what
is it that you are saying? Who was 'the Jewish
baby prior to His birth? Was/Is Jesus truly God,
JT?
I think what Judy might be getting at could be said this way. As a man,
Jesus was tempted to sin, and as a man, Jesus died.
Thus, as said, a 'truncated gospel' as apparently preached by DavidM.
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From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 02, 2006 11:02
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David, Paul says it best: 1 Cor 1:22
2006 10:48
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophets
I don't think so Lance, if they were you would
understand that God CAN NOT die or are
you of the same persuasion a certain
Germanwho proclaimedGod was dead?
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 10:43:26 -0500 "Lan
] apostles and prophets
Lance wrote to Judy:
When you say 'I don't think so, Lance', what
is it that you are saying? Who was 'the Jewish
baby prior to His birth? Was/Is Jesus truly God,
JT?
I think what Judy might be getting at could be said this way. As a man,
Jesus was tempted to sin
Sent: January 02, 2006 11:19
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophets
Why Lance?
Why not think about these things and ask the Holy
Spirit for insight rather than parrot
the teachings of Anathasius and the rest of the rcc
church fathers? No wonder it can get so
confusing
Perry wrote:
David, Paul says it best: 1 Cor 1:22-25;
2:1-2; 15:12-18.
Your first two passages speak of him CRUCIFIED and not a word about his
resurrection.
Perry wrote:
After saying many times that he would be raised
on the third day, had He not been, He would have
been proven a false
Bin there, done that and, ain't gonna go down that
road one more time.
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Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 02, 2006 11:01
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophets
ary 02, 2006 11:07 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophetsLance wrote to Judy:
When you say 'I don't think so, Lance', what is it that you are
saying? Who was 'the Jewish baby prior to His birth? Was/Is
Jesus truly God, JT? I think what
Judy might be getting at could be sai
Lance wrote:
You are a 'godly woman' with a heretical theology
of Jesus, Judy. that's why. Better than I have attempted
(Bill, John and, even DavidM) with no success.
The only value of doctrine is to produce godliness. Therefore, if you
accept that Judy is a godly woman, then it is
Talk to the hand, Judy.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 02, 2006 11:49
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophets
JESUS came to this planet as the Son of God
Thanks for the opportunity to avoid a 'Davidic rebuke' but, no, I meant what
I said just the way I said it.
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Sent: January 02, 2006 11:52
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Lance
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 02, 2006 11:19
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophets
Why Lance?
Why not think about these things and ask the Holy
Spirit for insight rather than parrot
the teachings of Anathasius and the rest of the rcc
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JESUS came to this planet as the Son of God Lance
made in the LIKENESS of
man. He did say
during his time here "the Father is
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Sent: January 02, 2006 11:19
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prophets
Why Lance?
Why not think about these things and ask the Holy
Spirit for insigh
hen he can find a 'taker'.. .
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Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 02, 2006 12:01
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophets
I say "
myth(jt's doctrinal
demands*contortmythological god-men:men of
godlinessbirthed fromhergod of
manliness)
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 11:52:33 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:The only
value of [jt] doctrine is to produce godliness
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"JESUS came to this planet as the Son of God
David wrote:
Perry wrote:
David, Paul says it best: 1 Cor 1:22-25;
2:1-2; 15:12-18.
Your first two passages speak of him CRUCIFIED and not a word about his
resurrection.
In Paul's mention of the crucifixion, the resurrection was implicit. Many
were crucified, why would Jesus' be any
-- Original message -- From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, you are re-establishing the correct interpretation of the Bible?DAVEH: No, that is not what I said, or impliedbut now that you have mentioned it, I do believe the restoration does have that effect. I can see
Again, DH, your question of Perry gives me further evidence that the Mormon Church has no clue as to the atonement as taught in preApostate scripture. Without the resurrection, all that Christ said and did is of no consequence. We clearly do not share the same gospel if that is not a part of your
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophets
Again, DH, your question of Perry gives me further evidence that the
Mormon Church has no clue as to the atonement as taught in preApostate
scripture. Without the resurrection, all that Christ said and did
is of no consequence. We clearly do
suggests the term Protestant can infer more than simply protesting the RCC,
I do not make that separation. Protestantism is a response , an objection, to the RCC. Why would you insist on using the term in a differing way? I , for one, do not think the RCC is any further from the truth of God in
Amen JD! Kinda difficult convincin' the 'antis' on
TT, though.
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suggests
Lance wrote:
You are a 'godly woman' with a heretical theology
of Jesus, Judy. that's why. Better than I have attempted
(Bill, John and, even DavidM) with no success.
David Miller wrote:
The only value of doctrine is to produce godliness.
Therefore, if you accept that Judy is a godly woman,
All suggestions by you, DavidM, are welcomed.
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From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 02, 2006 13:51
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
Lance wrote:
You are a 'godly woman' with a heretical theology
Perry wrote:
In Paul's mention of the crucifixion, the resurrection
was implicit. Many were crucified, why would Jesus'
be any different unless the resurrection was in view?
The difference is that Jesus is the only leader in history who ever went TO
the cross of his own will and doctrine.
DAVEH: I really don't want to argue with your comment in a way that you
might think I'm denigrating it, Perry. But, I will give you my short
view in contrast.
The guards were put there by those who feared Jesus' friends would
steal his body (in the middle of the night, I would think)
myth ("For I have come down
from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent
me.")
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writes:Jesus.. went TO the cross of his own will and
doctrine.
Father.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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myth (For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will
of him who
Without the resurrection, all that Christ said and did is of no
consequence.
DAVEH: Did I not say the very same thing in previous posts, Pastor?
If you failed to note that I had said virtually the same thing, then
FTR let it be known that the above is similar to the way I believe as
well.
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:04:52 -0500
Perry wrote:
In Paul's mention of the crucifixion, the resurrection
was implicit. Many were crucified, why would Jesus'
be any different unless the resurrection was in view
myth
(ultimately God's doctrine is God's)
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:28:23 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:the
doctrine of Christ was not ultimately his own
cult-apostolic
myth ("For I have come down from
heaven..do the will of him who sent me.")
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:04:52 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:Jesus.. went TO the cross of his own will
..
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 11:10:16 -0800
DAVEH: I really don't want to argue with your comment in a way that you
might think I'm denigrating it, Perry. But, I will give you my short view
in contrast.
The guards were put
I meant to address the response below to Dave.
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 12:39:27 -0800
David,
I will consider this as agreement. I
DaveH, you have to understand that John's background is Church of Christ,
DAVEH: I did remember that, DavidM. Even so, as I remember, WIKI
painted the CofC as Protestant as well.
However, in a recent discussion with you, I thought I understood
John to say that he currently is worshiping
ice: no smilie.
Perry
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 00:55:38 -0800
*what did Paul preach that is not in th
.
Peace be with you.David Miller.
- Original Message -
From:
Dave
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 5:31
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and
prophets
DaveH, you have to understand that John's background is Church of Christ,DAVEH
Dave, this discussion has become a joke. Eitgher you don't get it or you are
just playing. Either way, I'm out.
Perry
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:43
Poor DM. I have not been a part of the Churches of Christ for some 32 years. My denominational background has nothing to do with my theology at this late date. Secindly, Aimee Semple McPherson is the founder of Four Square. She was not responding to a negative RCC consideration.Certainly, I am no
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