George Gallen wrote:
You don't seem to be able to put any values on the phantom line
(and if you do, they seem to be ignored). I never tried Commons
for this.
Another method I use is I create a VOC entry
based on UserNO and something static like:
(ex. 101phantom)
1PA
2RUN LIB PROGRAMNAME
Wendy,
All that subscribing to a forum will do for you is that
you'll get an
email telling you that someone has replied to something on
the forum.
The email will NOT contain the posting, nor any reference
short of the
subject line to the previous post.
In short, all communication from the U2UG
Listen, Will the blind, deaf and possibly dumb Johnson
Are you hearing nothing? There are those of us who don't
live in the
land of the mighty dollar. We have to pay for our traffic,
we have
employment contracts that forbid us from internet access
during the day,
yet we still need access to U2
What do we do? It looks like the answer may well be wait and your
prayers will be answered :-)
I'm getting vibes (so no promises here!) that there may well soon be a
forum to email gateway. How usable it will be I don't know, but other
people have the same problem on other sites, and it sounds
Is it just me that thinks a yahoo group would be good.. or am I missing
something, it seems to provide what everyone is asking for ? doesn't it?
Kevin King moderates the sbsolutions group.. see his comments below...
snip
While Yahoo groups hasn't been the best or most consistent host in the
Trevor,
We did that (and more - like 'printing' to email) with txt2pdf from
SANFACE (www.sanface.com)
Cheers.
Schalk
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From: Trevor Ockenden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30 March 2004 05:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Text file to PDF
And now for something
Yep I can delete and drop too.
Don Kibbey
Financial Systems Manager
Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/04 09:19PM
Dude... Why don't u find somewhere to TALK Rubbish!
IF you don't like the EMAILS... DON'T YOU KNOW HOW TO DELETE...?
-Original
As stated earlier, kindly leave the guests alone. They are tired of your flaming.
If your not interested in learning some legacy techniques then kindly just go away
and code up some wonderful stuff in vb against a nice fat Oracle data store.
Bye!!!
Don Kibbey
Financial Systems Manager
To the u2-users community --
I have been on the road and have not read all of the e-mail related to
u2-users going away but did have an exchange with Clif after reading his
message. Just so it is perfectly clear -- the U2UG did not in any way
suggest or encourage u2-users ending -- quite the
Dawn -
It seems that there is only one piece of the puzzle that is missing; the ability to
not only receive e-mail from the various forums but also to reply to that e-mail by
way of e-mail (as opposed to writing the reply from within a browser). If that one
feature were implemented I believe
Interesting...
Have just come back from holiday and have not had the time to read all
these messages but have been drawn to this one! We have a HP superdome,
running Uv 9.6 to our 700 branches and offices from our central head
office. All development is carried out in house. All of the
Perhaps if IBM or whomever is sponsoring the U2UG.org site is listening to
the feedback of the current members of this list that they will respond in a
'customer-oriented' kinda way. That's why it's called SOFTware. It can
change to meet the needs of its customers.
I agree with the reduction of
Except that IBM has precious little to do with U2UG.
Okay, they want to help us, but there's that little matter of being
beholden to your sponsor, which we are not and we most definitely do
not want to become.
U2UG is OF the users, BY the users, and FOR the users. It has nothing to
do with IBM
Trevor,
We have used a utility called 'txt2pdf' since 1999 and it has worked and
performed very well. It integrates well and is quite reasonably priced.
Look for it at www.sanface.com
(By the way, we receive no gratuities/royalties for this suggestion.)
Lee J Messenger
Sr VP Operations
[EMAIL
Trevor,
We have many reports that are converted to .pdf and emailed daily without any
intervention. We user Pcl2pdf software from Visual Software. Te product is very
inexpensive. All you need to remember is the -lt:2 option on the command line.
John.
-Original Message-
From: Trevor
We just downloaded a shareware product from www.pstill.com and it works well
with our uv created reports.
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From: Trevor Ockenden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Text file to PDF
And now for
Ha! Will pernickty Johnson is at it again.
Integrate as a verb I think applies to mathematics.
But if I say My software integrates well I think most
people would
think
A) you have math software ?
or
B) Your English is bad?
Damn! Sir, can't you also get a life?
Ain't this a technical
Well, I'm sorry the lists are closing, but I can sympathize with Clif. I'm
not a happy camper, since that means now I have one more thing to put on my
to-do list every day (go check the forums), but so it goes. Clif, thanx
for the effort you've put in over the years.
Dave Liesse
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Ditto. I signed up for both the DataStage and U2UG forums, but I don't
have time to keep web hopping around. If I check once or twice a week I
would consider that good!! Here's hoping for a new listserver arrangement.
At 09:29 AM 03/30/2004, you wrote:
Well, I'm sorry the lists are
Forgive me if I sound like a broken record here but it is most assuredly NOT necessary
to (as the OP puts it) go check the forums. You need only subscribe to the forum
and can then receive e-mail each time something is posted. That e-mail contains the
entire content of the posting.
The only
UGH. For the last ()%#*#(^ time IBM is not sponsoring U2UG.org it is an *independent*
non-profit user group. So IBM will not be causing a change to accomodate anything.
u2ug.org doesn't have *customers*, it has *members*.
Go to the site, read, and then comment. So if *you* want to influence
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From: Anthony Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
U2UG is OF the users, BY the users, and FOR the users.
[snip]
Cheers,
Wol
If this statement is true it sounds like someone wasn't listening
or asking the users if they were even interested in this forum
idea. It
I think the fora were meant to be in addition to the lists. A lot of
people apparently DO want the fora.
The problem is that a *different* lot of people seem also to want the
mailing list. And bear in mind that the lists are actually run by an
organisation that is a commercial concern, and
Damn it... Don't you anything something better to do!
Moderator Stopped this Thread!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Dennis Bartlett
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:45 AM
To: 'U2 Users Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Modern Universe
Joe,
It must be hard for you being so good and perfect!!!
The rest of us just have to muddle along in our boring old pick jobs.
Oh well, time to go home and dream about all those lucky people working on big boy
systems.
But then again
Les over paid, under worked and happy
There seems to be much confusion here. Let me take a shot at straightening
it out:
1. The U2 lists have been run by Clif Oliver for a very long time. Clif has
no direct ties to IBM or any of the companies who owned the U2 products
before hand.
2. Clif has been running the lists on his own time;
Les,
Nobody is perfect... My Theory is...
We are all Technical Craft Men. We should all be Open Minded to
Use the Best Tools to Carve our Art Well.
Just because you are used to a Certain Brand of Technical Tool, you
shouldn't be Too Big a Loyalist to Criticize its Problems.
No More Posts from
We're pickies, we don't need to understand XML, or whatever, so long
as we can do what's required of us. Yeah, we could learn XML, if
required.
Joe suggests we can't learn XML, lets see fellow pickies, XML is
hierarchical what do we know that could possibly help us understand that :).
Martin Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
snip
I guess that most of us are looking to move to the U2UG site. I
started off down that path this morning but, being a careful sort of
person, I read the terms and conditions. Clause 7a worries me. I
have discussed this
Dennis Bartlett wrote:
All that subscribing to a forum will do for you is that
you'll get an email telling you that someone has replied
to something on the forum.
The email will NOT contain the posting, nor any reference
short of the subject line to the previous post.
In short, all
Lee Bacall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Cliff,
I would like to thank you for being a selfless and non-partisan
moderator as well as an apparent workaholic all these years,
supporting the needs of the Universe/Unidata user base as well as the
incredibly diverse whimsey
Thanks, Dana. Your explanation makes sense. Seems like the issues here relate to the
suddenness of the lists closing. I'll really miss the free-flowing conversations.
Then again, Clif more than deserves a vacation, and the tight deadline has focused
this discussion wonderfully.
And many,
Hi All,
We're upgrading our server to W2K3 and Universe to 10. We want to use a
print server instead of the Universe server. Is this possible? Has anyone
done this before?
Thanks,
Carl
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LOL - Ron - where were you while they were BEGGING for people to become
members and attend conference call meetings to decide how to set up the
user's group and forum area? It was MONTHS ago that they asked for input,
but probably got just enough to realize they'd have to wing it...
And in
It seems that there is only one piece of the puzzle that is missing; the
ability to not only receive e-mail from
the various forums but also to reply to that e-mail by way of e-mail (as
opposed to writing the reply from within
a browser). If that one feature were implemented I believe quite
Wo... Lighten up, please. We're all trying to figure this out. And its
not too late to start helping out. After tomorrow's meeting of the U2UG
board (an all-volunteer board, so far; we haven't gotten around to having
elections yet), we may be able to put forward some ideas as to where we're
David,
Don't put 'volunteer' in the past tense. We will be looking for SIG
leaders soon, we will be looking for forum moderators soon, and we will
be transitioning to an elected board. There's always work for more hands
in an organization of this type. If IBM keeps growing the U2 market (and
Oops - it's there - it just didn't stand out at me. My apologies. I still
prefer being able to easily see the address in the 'from' within Outlook,
but this is ok.
Regards,
Jim
While not a big issue, it would be nice to see the posters address as
well.
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Good point!! I currently sit on a Volunteer Board (Treasurer no less) - and
as anyone who does this will likely attest - there is nothing like working
on a volunteer Board to make you fear for (or despise g) humanity in
general! The number of after-the fact non-volunteers pointing out what we
In a message dated 3/30/2004 12:35:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
You are partly correct when you say UV treats all data as strings. However,
if the UV programmer is careful he/she can get it to do maths processing.
Variables within UVBasic are string unless the result
In a message dated 3/30/2004 5:18:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Listen, Will the blind, deaf and possibly dumb Johnson
Are you hearing nothing?
Please don't start insulting me you ignorant fat slob.
Will
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In a message dated 3/30/2004 11:02:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
6. The U2UG web site has U2 fora as the means of communication, something
which people have been asking for for a long time. The decision to start the
fora was made when the lists were also available so
In a message dated 3/30/2004 11:24:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
There have been *zero* discussions as to
what our TOS should be other than to make sure that we indemnify U2UG from
copywrite issues. If you are concerned about the wording of
any part of the
TOS
Now Will... we don't know that he's fat
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Currently We integrate with our UPS Worldship software by FTPing our
shipping info over to the UPS machine, then an ODBC is setup to link the
ftp file
to it's own use.
Then all we need to do is key in a key on the UPS software, it looks
up the shipping
and everything else needed and fills in
US copyright law doesn't help me in Australia. Maybe applicable copyright law is
a better term. Then, Unless explicitly forbidden postings can be copied... is my
preferred wording on that issue.
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:50:00 -0500
To:
George,
I've done direct ODBC for UPS and FedEx from mv (D3 on linux in my
case), so I suspect that DHL has to have the same ability.
- Charles I actually received a check for .02 cents this week Barouch
George Gallen wrote:
Currently We integrate with our UPS Worldship software by
I am probably in the best position to compare apples with apples.
I have both UniVerse and Oracle on the same IBM p660 4 processor box with
6Gb RAM. The 800,000 customers are replicated from UniVerse to Oracle,
although the Oracle version is only a subset of the attributes required by a
Your not just going to lay there and take that are you?
Scott Stir the pot Thompson
In a message dated 3/30/2004 5:18:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Listen, Will the blind, deaf and possibly dumb Johnson
Are you hearing nothing?
Please don't start insulting
Don't you think the UV people meant that everything in UV is stored in the
file (treated) as strings (characters)? Maybe that confused Joe, not
coming from a pick environment.
Ron You think this is intense? I used to work with Will Walenciak
:)
ps: Will: I'd work with you again
Mr. Moderator...
I started an ARGUMENT ALRIGHT... But I did NOT Make any Personal
Comments
To Anybody on this LIST Until some UN-PROFESSIONAL IDIOT WON'T STOP!
You might want to check the emails.
statements that are untrue because you are ignorant and spout off
about
IF you feel my comments
Then perhaps you should take your own advice and HIT DELETE
-Original Message-
From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[unsightly rubbish snipped]
IF you feel my comments are without SUBSTANCE...
WHY NOT ARGUE BACK with some Valid Proof...
Instead of start Calling People Names...
Thank you Sara for giving us the real facts (and just the facts). Seems this should
put the arguement to bed unless someone has some other real FACTS.
It begs the question, however, as to why Oracle is used at all, ... being three times
slower that is.
Patrick Will Williams, President
Clif,
You have our unending gratitude for all you have done, for all these
years.
So long, and thanks for all the, well, you know!
CONFIDENTIAL NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments may contain
confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended
recipient, please notify
Sara,
Can you please post your Query and results... Cause I am seeing the
EXACT Opposite...as I posted earlier.
Oracle Query is what?
Select firstName from Customers where firstName like 'Sar%';
The above takes about 7-9 Times More Time to get any results on Our UV
QUAD PROCESSOR MACHINE.
I think the results point out the fallacy of your arguments. It shows,
pretty definitevly, that UV can and does perform as well/better as Oracle,
albeit under certain circumstances (ie, I'm sure other kinds of queries
could produce different results). It doesn't mean you will always get
better
Don't forget the 80/20 rule. 80% of the work gets done by 20% of the
people.
Eugene
- Original Message -
From: David Wolverton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 11:33 AM
Subject: RE: The lists are closing
Good point!! I
Dave,
Just thought you'd like to know that multi-threaded sorting is available
(via a uvconfig parameter) in 10.1.
Regards,
LeRoy F. Dreyfuss
Advanced Technical Services - UniVerse
IBM U2 Data Management Solutions
Tel: 303-672-1254 Fax: 303-294-4832
Mobile: 720-341-4317
External
Dave,
I think the results point out the fallacy of your arguments.
The results Sara posted here does NOT Prove anything, cause my results
show the EXACT Opposite.
So the deciding factor is to analyze what Sara wrote to come up with
the results she posted
Again post the code!
Here is my
Hello Dave,
At 09:36 AM 31/03/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, one thing I did want to address is your QUAD processor point.
You've made it a few times, and I just had to point out that it is
irrelevant to the discussion. While UV will take native advantage of
multi-processors in it's
Sara,
Were server loading issues the same between your queries? Were both DB's
online and active during the queries? Same number of users? same time of
day, etc.
As an interesting academic exercise would it be possible to run after hours
tests by pausing UV during the Oracle query and whatever
Thank you Will but I consider A = 1 to be an assignment of the number 1
being the result of expression 1 which in my books is numeric.
To clarify this point for others...
anything on the right hand side of an assignment symbol (in this case =)
is an expression
Cheers
Trevor Ockenden
OSP
-
Are you ever going to just go away..! So sick of this
discussion!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/30/2004 3:56:28 PM
Dave,
I think the results point out the fallacy of your arguments.
The results Sara posted here does NOT Prove anything, cause my results
show the EXACT Opposite.
So the
Trevor,
I *think* the issue is that the mv runtime does typecast variables
on the fly, transparently. Which means that assigning a number or the
result of a numeric expression (AVAR = 1 * 3) results in AVAR becoming
an Integer variable. If you then say something 'string-ish' (AVAR =
The
Oh, my. When I misread a situation, I do a bang up job of it, don't I? It
was never my intent to throw the community into such an uproar. I still
intend to quit being the list host and moderator. But it appears that not
only is U2UG not sure how/if/when they could take on the load, but I
didn't
Just let me be the first to say - YEA!!!
Thanks for the last minute reprieve, Gover... er, Clif.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 4:43 PM
To: U2 Users Discussion List
Subject: RE: The lists are closing - REPRIEVE
I've used active fax from www.actfax.com with good results for faxing.
However, while investigating usage as a large report PDF emailer, it
generates huge PDF files since the content is converted to a graphic. 7
pages is 714kb. Whereas using PCL2PDF the file is 14KB.
Does VSI-FAX or other
In a message dated 3/30/2004 7:34:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Trevor,
I *think* the issue is that the mv runtime does typecast variables
on the fly, transparently. Which means that assigning a number or the
result of a numeric expression (AVAR = 1 * 3) results
Well, my understanding of the query used was a single key field query based
on an indexed key. This would involve simply reading the index entry, and
then doing hash reads on the records contained in that index key.
When sorting, at least on some systems, we do have a parallel/threaded sort
Well, why they don't prove anything, they do provide more convincing
evidence than the results you mention. They are results comparing the same
query, against the same basic dataset, on the same machine
hardware/configuration.
You are running the two queries/comparisons on dissimilar machines,
Charles
I feel we may be in agreement here but I'm not sure.
A = 1 assigns a numeric integer. The expression need not contain operators
(+,-,etc) to be numeric.
A = 1 assigns a string however, as you have explicitly declared it to be
string.
A = 1 + 2 assigns a numeric integer value (3) as the
Great news!
Thanks again Cliff
Cheers
Trevor Ockenden
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Trevor,
I will try to do this ANALYZE.FILE STATS sometime tomorrow.
Again... Nobody here has come up with any real proof of any
clear testing results...other than just sending out useless random emails.
I provided the exact details on my testing, can you do me a BIG Favor.
Do you have any UV
Well Said Sara.
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From: Sara Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: Modern Universe (TESTING)
As requested
My queries were done on our machine reasonably early in the morning before
there were a lot of
In a message dated 3/30/2004 8:19:18 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A = 1 assigns a numeric integer. The expression need not contain operators
(+,-,etc) to be numeric.
A = 1 assigns a string however, as you have explicitly declared it to be
string.
A = 1 + 2 assigns a
Joe
I do not have access to a file with 20 million records but I will create one
with random data and try to carry out your test. Bare in mind I will be
using my laptop (NEC Versa LX P2 366 - 384Mb RAM and relatively slow disk)
which may sku the results somewhat but I will do my best to tune UV
Will, I stand corrected on that one. So far in 20 odd years of programming
in MV I haven't needed to worry about it.
Now Will raises a terrific question. If A = 1 assigns 1 as numeric. How
would you determine if A contained a numeric or a string in this case?
My short answer is - why would I
Dennis Bartlett agrees that:
Dennis Bartlett wrote:
All that subscribing to a forum
And that
Dennis Bartlett was obviously smoking out of some BEEG pot
resulting in the fact that
Dennis Bartlett
is truly soree
errr..
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He's doing a SCO ... when you give him any facts he just repeats his
baseless assertions :-)
Yes we know a screwdriver is far better and newer technology, but that
still doesn't mean it beats a hammer for driving nails :-) (Well, it
does if you're too dumb to learn how to use a hammer, but that's
Mats Carlid wrote:
Trevor Ockenden wrote:
Will, I stand corrected on that one. So far in 20 odd years of
programming
in MV I haven't needed to worry about it.
Neither have I .
Now Will raises a terrific question. If A = 1 assigns 1 as numeric.
How
would you determine if A contained a
You've missed the point! :-)
These two statements apparently have exactly the same effect - the
question is do they?
A = 1
A = 1
(In the stuff I'm writing, they'd be the same - everything is a string
until it is forced into numeric.)
Cheers,
Wol
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From: [EMAIL
Clif,
Like others I've selfishly used your lists for my gain,
without thinking of the work involved.
Like others,I've learnt so much,
and probably given so little.
Like others, I've flamed, been flamed,
and duly reprimanded in such a loving way :)
Like others, I've been
The number of after-the fact non-volunteers pointing out
what we
*should* have done is always staggering...
I think what you've done is excellent.
I think that the who comparison thang came about as a result
of the
imminent demise of the oliver thing...
Volunteer?
No problem, only I wonder
So there Will Johnson
Ha Will! So nice to see you're wearing a new style...
Must say it really suits you...
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Troy Buss wrote
Otherwise its back to pcl2pdf ( www.visual.co.uk/pcl2pdf.html
) and blat for this other project I'm working on.
Hey Troy, long time bud. Hope all is well.
I have code here that I haven't had time to fully productize it yet. Very
simply you populate a variable with substitution
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