[videoblogging] Re: Most favorite vlogs
THE PAN is sublime. I'm a PAN pusher - I've gotten a few of my students addicted (actually I was delighted to find one of my students' videos for the Soft Pink TRuth on it!). I have trouble keeping up so have to binge on back issues some days, but from the start it had so much stuff I already loved (caveh! 50 foot wave! ebn!) PLUS a great overview of vlog work. Just wonderful. brook --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, contactmica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello - I noticed the thread on favorite vlogs going on and I wanted to take a minute to explain a little more about The Public Address Network (aka The PAN) , because it's a really good place to find new stuff to watch. I started it because I wanted to see all of my favorite videos in one place and I wanted to see them develop and bump into each other and pretend that that's what tv actually is.. could be? It's pretty much why I never have time to post here anymore. I am totally obsessed with it, consumed. You may even say in love. Actually, what we are doing is quite simple Adam Quirk ( http://www.bullemhead.com ) and myself have teamed up with some of the most amazing vlogger-artist-filmmakers and friends ( http://www.thepan.org/contributors/ ) to create this daily videopodcast/videoblog. Each day one of us pulls together a 15 min stream of videos from anywhere. Usually highlighting work from videoblogs as well as other video makers who may not have a daily feed of content on their site. We also include all kinds of video oddities and rare finds from the depths of the web. We also make new things, just for The PAN audience! And there is MUCH more to come! So please, stop by, check out some links, leave us a comment or two. feel free to take borrow of our signature promo videos from the library ( http://www.thepan.org/promos/) and do with it what you will. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Most favorite vlogs
The PAN rocks my world and my cell phone once I've converted it to 3G2. Mica, I love your secret infatuation with our cats. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, contactmica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello - I noticed the thread on favorite vlogs going on and I wanted to take a minute to explain a little more about The Public Address Network (aka The PAN) , because it's a really good place to find new stuff to watch. I started it because I wanted to see all of my favorite videos in one place and I wanted to see them develop and bump into each other and pretend that that's what tv actually is.. could be? It's pretty much why I never have time to post here anymore. I am totally obsessed with it, consumed. You may even say in love. Actually, what we are doing is quite simple Adam Quirk ( http://www.bullemhead.com ) and myself have teamed up with some of the most amazing vlogger-artist-filmmakers and friends ( http://www.thepan.org/contributors/ ) to create this daily videopodcast/videoblog. Each day one of us pulls together a 15 min stream of videos from anywhere. Usually highlighting work from videoblogs as well as other video makers who may not have a daily feed of content on their site. We also include all kinds of video oddities and rare finds from the depths of the web. We also make new things, just for The PAN audience! And there is MUCH more to come! So please, stop by, check out some links, leave us a comment or two. feel free to take borrow of our signature promo videos from the library ( http://www.thepan.org/promos/) and do with it what you will. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Most favorite vlogs
On 4/6/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually this whole vbweek stuff has completely impressed me and reinvigorated my enjoyment of videoblogs. I've found lots of great new stuff. I agree, I've started filming everything againtossing most of it :) But at least I've fallen in love iwth vlogging again. Earnestly, AQ thepan.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] FCP newbie question
Thanks Leslye!On 4/6/06, leslye penelope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to buy Flip4Machttp://flip4mac.com/It's $49 though... On 4/6/06, Digital [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My friend, Jason Lewis over at expedition360.com wants to create a WMV file from FCP. I don't use Final Cut, so I didnt have an answer. Does anyone know of an easy way to do it? Thanks in advance! - Ted -- http://www.phatalspin.com/vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted TagamiPrincipal, Universus NetworksU N I V E R S U S . N E T SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] FCP newbie question
Hello,On 4/6/06, Digital [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My friend, Jason Lewis over at expedition360.com wants to create a WMVfile from FCP. I don't use Final Cut, so I didnt have an answer. Doesanyone know of an easy way to do it? I'm guessing your friend is using a Mac, so you can use ffmpegX. (Never used it myself though... don't have a Mac.) http://homepage.mac.com/major4/http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/video/ffmpegx.html(Unlike FFmpeg) I don't think this is Free and Open Source software though, unfortunately. (I think it's shareware.) See ya-- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Gah!!! Blogger sucks.
Hello,On 4/6/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the heat of VBWeek2K6, these tools continue to fail us.I finally get some comments and my blogspot blog has fallen on it'sface :( so I can't reply to the commentsbastards.If we weren't approaching 100 videos and have some subscribers I'd yank the whole works over to our domain(s) and setup a wordpresssitehm...maybe after the 100th video.Yeah, I think that's one of the big problems (from a vlogger's point-of-view) with alot of these free services is lock-in. Once you start using it, you can't leave it; not without alot of pain. (In this case... the pain is loosing your subscribers.) Things like Blogger and FeedBurner... while both great services still lock you in so you can't leave without alot of pain. (Even some of the paid-for services are that way too.)(Of course, from their point-of-view, there may not be any incentive to have these things free unless they can keep you there. So, just to say it explicitly, I am NOT trying to say that they are bad in any way. This is more of an opt-ed. Just so people know what they are getting into.) For a vlogger, it would probably be better to just use own domain right away.See ya-- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.casupercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: converting MPEG-4 videos to iPod format
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 04:16:00 +0200, M. Mart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other day someone here told of an inexpensive piece of software for Macs that will convert MPEG-4 videos into an iPod format using iMovie. What is the name of that software? Quicktime Pro maybe. Costs $30. http://www.apple.com/quicktime/upgrade/ -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] FCP newbie question
Thanks Charles! I'll forward this to him as well...On 4/7/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello,On 4/6/06, Digital [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My friend, Jason Lewis over at expedition360.com wants to create a WMVfile from FCP. I don't use Final Cut, so I didnt have an answer. Does anyone know of an easy way to do it? I'm guessing your friend is using a Mac, so you can use ffmpegX. (Never used it myself though... don't have a Mac.) http://homepage.mac.com/major4/http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/video/ffmpegx.html (Unlike FFmpeg) I don't think this is Free and Open Source software though, unfortunately. (I think it's shareware.) See ya-- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted TagamiPrincipal, Universus NetworksU N I V E R S U S . N E T SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: converting MPEG-4 videos to iPod format
Hello,On 4/6/06, M. Mart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello:The other day someone here told of an inexpensive piece of software forMacs that will convert MPEG-4 videos into an iPod format using iMovie. Whatis the name of that software?ThanksMichael You can also use FFmpeg. http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/ (It's Free and Open Source software.) On the Mac there's a GUI program for it (I've heard people recommend). It's called ffmpegX: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/video/ffmpegx.html http://homepage.mac.com/major4/ See ya -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.comdeveloper weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: converting MPEG-4 videos to iPod format
Has anyone here gotten FFMPEG to work on Windows. I had a lot of errors when I compiled it. And then I had difficulty getting it to convert to avi to quicktime. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, On 4/6/06, M. Mart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: The other day someone here told of an inexpensive piece of software for Macs that will convert MPEG-4 videos into an iPod format using iMovie. What is the name of that software? Thanks Michael You can also use FFmpeg. http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/ (It's Free and Open Source software.) On the Mac there's a GUI program for it (I've heard people recommend). It's called ffmpegX: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/video/ffmpegx.html http://homepage.mac.com/major4/ See ya -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Digest Number 1838
He Ted, Before you rush to buy try this: When you want to export the vid go to FILE MENU File -- scroll down to Export -- scroll to -- Using Quicktime Conversion - click on this -- a window pops up Click on Format -- a menu opens -- scroll up to Windows format - wullah! -- selct and you can export as WMV This is a oneway to find out if you have Quicktime pro installed! If not your friend might need to get a copy. Good luck, Daryl http://feztv.blogspot.com - Thanks Leslye! On 4/6/06, leslye penelope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to buy Flip4Mac http://flip4mac.com/ It's $49 though... On 4/6/06, Digital [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My friend, Jason Lewis over at expedition360.com wants to create a WMV file from FCP. I don't use Final Cut, so I didnt have an answer. Does anyone know of an easy way to do it? Thanks in advance! - Ted On 7/4/06 1:51 AM, videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks Leslye! On 4/6/06, leslye penelope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to buy Flip4Mac http://flip4mac.com/ It's $49 though... On 4/6/06, Digital [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My friend, Jason Lewis over at expedition360.com wants to create a WMV file from FCP. I don't use Final Cut, so I didnt have an answer. Does anyone know of an easy way to do it? Thanks in advance! - Ted Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Most favorite vlogs
Yes The Pan, and also Bottom Union (Carp Caviar), and Human Dog. All brilliant and among my favorites. I especially liked the Taylor Barcroft cameo in the last The Pan which was created by Erik Nelson of Bottom Union. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i love the PAN. great concept with a great execution. On 4/6/06, Nathan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The PAN rocks! nathan miller www.bicycle-sidewalk.com --- contactmica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello - I noticed the thread on favorite vlogs going on and I wanted to take a minute to explain a little more about The Public Address Network (aka The PAN) , because it's a really good place to find new stuff to watch. I started it because I wanted to see all of my favorite videos in one place and I wanted to see them develop and bump into each other and pretend that that's what tv actually is.. could be? It's pretty much why I never have time to post here anymore. I am totally obsessed with it, consumed. You may even say in love. Actually, what we are doing is quite simple Adam Quirk ( http://www.bullemhead.com ) and myself have teamed up with some of the most amazing vlogger-artist-filmmakers and friends ( http://www.thepan.org/contributors/ ) to create this daily videopodcast/videoblog. Each day one of us pulls together a 15 min stream of videos from anywhere. Usually highlighting work from videoblogs as well as other video makers who may not have a daily feed of content on their site. We also include all kinds of video oddities and rare finds from the depths of the web. We also make new things, just for The PAN audience! And there is MUCH more to come! So please, stop by, check out some links, leave us a comment or two. feel free to take borrow of our signature promo videos from the library ( http://www.thepan.org/promos/) and do with it what you will. Yahoo! Groups Links -- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Most favorite vlogs
i devour The Pan.On 4/6/06, contactmica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello -I noticed the thread on favorite vlogs going on and I wanted to take aminute to explain a little more about The Public Address Network (akaThe PAN) , because it's a really good place to find new stuff to watch. I started it because I wanted to see all of my favorite videos in oneplace and I wanted to see them develop and bump into each other andpretend that that's what tv actually is.. could be?It's pretty much why I never have time to post here anymore. I am totally obsessed with it, consumed.You may even say in love.Actually, what we are doing is quite simpleAdam Quirk ( http://www.bullemhead.com )and myself have teamed up with some of the most amazing vlogger-artist-filmmakers and friends( http://www.thepan.org/contributors/ )to create this daily videopodcast/videoblog.Each day one of us pulls together a 15 min stream of videos from anywhere. Usually highlighting work from videoblogs as well as other videomakers who may not have a daily feed of content on their site.We also include all kinds of video oddities and rare finds from thedepths of the web. We also make new things, just for The PAN audience!And there is MUCH more to come!So please, stop by, check out some links, leave us a comment or two.feel free to take borrow of our signature promo videos from the library ( http://www.thepan.org/promos/)and do with it what you will.Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [videoblogging] Most favorite vlogs
Hi, I've been to the pan. Once I got an email from you guys saying 'you've been panned'. What does that mean? CheersMonique Daniellehttp://.vlogchallenge.com- This Week's Challenge: Dangerhttp://www.vlogdiva.com- This Weeks Video: Networking Tips SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: converting MPEG-4 videos to iPod format
try this:http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/On 4/7/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Has anyone here gotten FFMPEG to work on Windows.I had a lot of errors when I compiled it.And then I had difficulty getting it toconvert to avi to quicktime.-- Enric--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, On 4/6/06, M. Mart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: The other day someone here told of an inexpensive piece of software for Macs that will convert MPEG-4 videos into an iPod format using iMovie. What is the name of that software? Thanks Michael You can also use FFmpeg. http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/ (It's Free and Open Source software.) On the Mac there's a GUI program for it (I've heard people recommend).It's called ffmpegX: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/video/ffmpegx.html http://homepage.mac.com/major4/ See ya -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] How Much Time Do You Spend Editing?
Hello Vloggers, I'm curious abouthow much times folks spend editing and what programs they use? Also how oftendo you vlog, as that impacts time available to edit? I'm using Adobe Premiere and myediting skillsare extremely undeveloped(dare I say, they suck!). Anyway, I would love for folks to reply to thispost by linkingdirectly to a video or two and telling howlong it took them to film and edit each video, and whatediting software they are using.And, how often they vlog. I'm trying to get an idea of what I should be shooting for. The Adobe Premiere help files are pretty good, but I'm still missing alot of the power of the program. Do you know of any good online/interactive tutorials? I have three vlogs and I'm trying to decide how to approach them: 1. VlogDiva - I would like to post weekly there. My favorite entry is 'Characteristics of Bad Website Design', but believe it or not it took me a long time to edit that video. So I'm starting to think that I'm just going to read from a prompter. I spend so much time writing the script that I dont want to have to spend a bunch of time memorizing and editing to. 2. VlogChallenge - That one is easy because all I'm going to do is film myself announcing a challenge. But if I can get enough participants each week I would also like to make a remix of all entries for a given challenge. 3. ShopSWFL - This regional community site has a ton of back end functionality, but no content and is basically a shell right now. But once I launch in a few weeks I would like to start doing a daily vlog where I film people and places in and around SWFL for two to four minutes. I'm curious to see if anyone else is doing this - I would like to seehow they are doing it, what the quality is, etc. CheersMonique Daniellehttp://.vlogchallenge.com- This Week's Challenge: Dangerhttp://www.vlogdiva.com- This Weeks Video: Networking Tips SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] How Much Time Do You Spend Editing?
I'm curious about how much times folks spend editing and what programs they use? Also how often do you vlog, as that impacts time available to edit? I'm currently using Adobe Premiere Elements. I can generally finish editing, including audio cleanup, transitions, and titles, in 2-3 hours. If I started out with a loose storyboard and was able to pick my shots from the beginning, it takes less time. If I have a mass of footage to hunt through looking for things to use, it takes much more. Our goal has been to have a 5-minute post every week. Because both I and my partner work day jobs (college professor and engineer at Motorola) and we're both engaged actively in research (she has a research profile to maintain and I'm working on my Ph.D), it really isn't possible for us to hope for more than a weekly video post. The Adobe Premiere help files are pretty good, but I'm still missing alot of the power of the program. Do you know of any good online/interactive tutorials? I think I'm getting pretty handy with Adobe Premiere Elements, but that's a slightly different breed from Premiere. What specific problems are you having? Maybe I can help. 1. VlogDiva - I would like to post weekly there. My favorite entry is 'Characteristics of Bad Website Design', but believe it or not it took me a long time to edit that video. So I'm starting to think that I'm just going to read from a prompter. I spend so much time writing the script that I dont want to have to spend a bunch of time memorizing and editing to. Yes. Make a makeshift prompter or otherwise hold up cue cards. I can't tell you how many times I've had everything in my head, ready to go, and then I press record and blow the whole thing. -- Rhett. - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [videoblogging] a new member intro
Welcome Brook. So, you're a pro film maker? I'm looking forward to what we see coming from you in the future. If you feel up to it, please enter this weeks challenge DANGER. I'm sure one of your ghost videos would work well - maybe the one with the weird ladies accosting little boys playing croquet :) Did you edit those videos or just post them as you received them? CheersMonique Daniellehttp://.vlogchallenge.com- This Week's Challenge: Dangerhttp://www.vlogdiva.com- This Weeks Video: Networking Tips SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [videoblogging] How Much Time Do You Spend Editing?
I'm embarrassed to admit this, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to create a credits screen. Also, you know how in their tutorial they have an image/frame and inside the image/frame their is footage of that family? I want to learn how to do that. I got so frustrated trying to do the credits that I gave up. I also want to learn how to separate the video and the audio. I suppose I'll try to tackle these things now that I have the book.If I'm still stumped I'll let you know. But, please if you have any vital tips, I would love to hear them (about credits or anything else in Adobe Premeire Elements). Don't be embarassed...I'm a professional engineer and wrestled with Adobe Premiere Elements for a while. Creating a credit screen isn't all that hard. You use the titler to do it. Just click the Title button right next to the Edit button. There are a bunch of templates that they offer, but I really don't care for any of them, so when the templates dialog pops up, I click cancel and work with a blank title. From there, the titler comes up. You can put text on it, import images, etc, then save the title. You can also move around on the timeline and see what it'll look like if you overlay that title on existing video (which I rarely do). Once you like what you have, it'll appear as a media object in the same list as your clips, and you can drag it to the timeline. Drag to Video 1 if you don't want it overlaying your existing footage, or drag to video 2 to mix it with your footage. Separating video and audio isn't hard. Once you get a clip on the timeline, right click on the clip and you'll find an option to do this on the popup menu that comes up. I don't know how to do picture-in-picture yet. -- Rhett. - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: converting MPEG-4 videos to iPod format
I could be wrong but I believe, if you have a recent version installed, you can do it in iTunes. joly The other day someone here told of an inexpensive piece of software for Macs that will convert MPEG-4 videos into an iPod format using iMovie. What is the name of that software? --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: a new member intro
Hi Monique, So, you're a pro film maker? Well I guess that depends on your definition of pro. I used to work full time doing for-hire work shooting, editing, consulting, sound design, etc etc etc, but that has always felt very seperate from my artwork. Now the day job mostly teaching (I actually get paid to teach the kinds of films I make, which still seems hard to believe!) and I'm focusing more on my own stuff. Did you edit those videos or just post them as you received them? They're extremely edited, and in some cases (though not the croquet one) also messed with in other ways. All of the footage is from an estate which included hours of old home 16mm films dating back to the 1920's, for which I was the archivist. Everyone we were able to identify in the footage is no longer around. I'm not trying to just present the footage, though that would probably be a nice thing too (and it may turn out to be appropriate for a few entries) - I'm making found footage films out of them, sort of mini-experimental-essays on memory, life, death, and the little moments and background things that get lost. I've been playing with this footage for a long time, and this just suddenly seemed like the right approach and the right place. (I'm partly answering your comment on the site, apologies to others for the lengthy verbiage). - Brook Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: How Much Time Do You Spend Editing?
It varies with me, it depends on what I am vlogging, this bit I did, Magic Eight Ball, I filmed and edited in under an hour, but I had a really good idea in my head of how I wanted the finished video to look, the filming probably took about 20 minutes total (with a couple of reshoots) and the editing about 30 minutes (which includes the time to import the video into my program) I use Sony Vegas (the lite version, it cost me about 60 bucks) You can see that video here. http://blip.tv/file/get/BatmanGeek- MagicEightBall238.mov This one took a bit longer because I went over to a friends house to have some fun and to just show geeks as they are, I probably took about 45 minutes of footage or so, ( I was there longer) and it did take me about 30 minutes to edit (not including the time to import the video) because I had more footage to go through...you can check it out here http://blip.tv/file/get/BatmanGeek-GeekDay587.mov I am learning NOT to film everything that makes editing a lot easier, at least when you are doing a bit but that gets harder when you are just videoing for the heck of it and then decide to make it a vlog..I have found though don't be afraid to edit, as long as the meat is there they will get it. btw I am still learning my way around with Vegas but I really like it. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Monique Danielle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Vloggers, I'm curious about how much times folks spend editing and what programs they use? Also how often do you vlog, as that impacts time available to edit? I'm using Adobe Premiere and my editing skills are extremely undeveloped (dare I say, they suck!). Anyway, I would love for folks to reply to this post by linking directly to a video or two and telling how long it took them to film and edit each video, and what editing software they are using. And, how often they vlog. I'm trying to get an idea of what I should be shooting for. The Adobe Premiere help files are pretty good, but I'm still missing alot of the power of the program. Do you know of any good online/interactive tutorials? I have three vlogs and I'm trying to decide how to approach them: 1. VlogDiva - I would like to post weekly there. My favorite entry is 'Characteristics of Bad Website Design', but believe it or not it took me a long time to edit that video. So I'm starting to think that I'm just going to read from a prompter. I spend so much time writing the script that I dont want to have to spend a bunch of time memorizing and editing to. 2. VlogChallenge - That one is easy because all I'm going to do is film myself announcing a challenge. But if I can get enough participants each week I would also like to make a remix of all entries for a given challenge. 3. ShopSWFL - This regional community site has a ton of back end functionality, but no content and is basically a shell right now. But once I launch in a few weeks I would like to start doing a daily vlog where I film people and places in and around SWFL for two to four minutes. I'm curious to see if anyone else is doing this - I would like to see how they are doing it, what the quality is, etc. Cheers Monique Danielle http://.vlogchallenge.com - This Week's Challenge: Danger http://www.vlogdiva.com - This Weeks Video: Networking Tips Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: converting MPEG-4 videos to iPod format
Yes but with no control over it's parameters. They have a Convert Selection for iPod option that just takes off and does something you have no say on HOW. Note the missing ... at the end of the command indicating no dialog box with options will follow. If you use Macintosh For ultimate control you can burn a DVD image with iDVD from mp4s and then use Handbrake to rip them to your exactly preferred specs with its ffmpeg 2-pass and crop encoder. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Apr 7, 2006, at 7:48 AM, WWWhatsup wrote: I could be wrong but I believe, if you have a recent version installed, you can do it in iTunes. joly The other day someone here told of an inexpensive piece of software for Macs that will convert MPEG-4 videos into an iPod format using iMovie. What is the name of that software? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: converting MPEG-4 videos to iPod format
Am I missing something? Why can't you do this with iMovie itself? I'm pretty sure I did I did that last night. (I would have to check the source movie, but it was an mp4 quicktime, I think.)JS On 4/6/06, M. Mart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello:The other day someone here told of an inexpensive piece of software forMacs that will convert MPEG-4 videos into an iPod format using iMovie. Whatis the name of that software?ThanksMichael Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: How Much Time Do You Spend Editing?
I edit in Final Cut Pro and I have spent as little as an hour and as much as 10 or 15 hours over a few days editing. The live music pieces I post are ussually pretty quick edits (ussually about an hour). And the documentary pieces I've done take much longer. Just look under the categories on my site for examples. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Monique Danielle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Vloggers, I'm curious about how much times folks spend editing and what programs they use? Also how often do you vlog, as that impacts time available to edit? I'm using Adobe Premiere and my editing skills are extremely undeveloped (dare I say, they suck!). Anyway, I would love for folks to reply to this post by linking directly to a video or two and telling how long it took them to film and edit each video, and what editing software they are using. And, how often they vlog. I'm trying to get an idea of what I should be shooting for. The Adobe Premiere help files are pretty good, but I'm still missing alot of the power of the program. Do you know of any good online/interactive tutorials? I have three vlogs and I'm trying to decide how to approach them: 1. VlogDiva - I would like to post weekly there. My favorite entry is 'Characteristics of Bad Website Design', but believe it or not it took me a long time to edit that video. So I'm starting to think that I'm just going to read from a prompter. I spend so much time writing the script that I dont want to have to spend a bunch of time memorizing and editing to. 2. VlogChallenge - That one is easy because all I'm going to do is film myself announcing a challenge. But if I can get enough participants each week I would also like to make a remix of all entries for a given challenge. 3. ShopSWFL - This regional community site has a ton of back end functionality, but no content and is basically a shell right now. But once I launch in a few weeks I would like to start doing a daily vlog where I film people and places in and around SWFL for two to four minutes. I'm curious to see if anyone else is doing this - I would like to see how they are doing it, what the quality is, etc. Cheers Monique Danielle http://.vlogchallenge.com - This Week's Challenge: Danger http://www.vlogdiva.com - This Weeks Video: Networking Tips Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: How Much Time Do You Spend Editing?
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Monique Danielle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Vloggers, I'm curious about how much times folks spend editing and what programs they use? Also how often do you vlog, as that impacts time available to edit? It depends on how many cuts, titles and special effects you have on your show. When I was making a ten-minute weekly show, it took me anywhere from 10-14 hours to edit. Last night's vlog entry only took about 2 hours (and most of that time was spent re-watching the video just because I was laughing so hard! Had I stuck to the work at hand, I would have been done in less than an hour.) I have three vlogs and I'm trying to decide how to approach them: You've probable thought of this already, but my advice (especially since you're making multiple shows) is to make a template that includes all the titles and effects that you will reuse on each post. That will take away SOME of the editing burden... Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ Cheers Monique Danielle Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] a new member intro
sounds cool... but the ghosts crashed my firefox ;-)On 4/7/06, brookhinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy.I'm new. I vlog.I have one video blog at present, only a couple of weeks old. It's less personal than some of the marvelous stuff that's around, butthat's because it is kind of, well, by ghosts. The footage is all fromfound home movies dating back from the 20's found in the basement ofthe last member of a San Francisco society family after his death. The footage is re-edited, processed and otherwise mediated (I'm anexperimental filmmaker in most of the rest of my life) though it feelsmore, pardon the phrase, channeled from the people in it than anythingelse. brookhinton.typepad.com/tracegardenI'm starting another vlog shortly that is more personal. Maybe morethan one. I'm finding so much wonderful stuff out there in the vlog world and its very exciting.Anyway, hi, check out the vlog if its of interest, and I look forwardto reading and communicating here.Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
I looked at the watch tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be transcoded into flash and hosted there... what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and hosting videos without permission?-- Josh Leowww.JoshLeo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] How Much Time Do You Spend Editing?
I use iMovie, and I reuse my outro every post. When it's just me, talking-head-style, it takes me about 10 minutes to edit, and half of that is importing the video to iMovie. The Toastmaster speeches are about the same, because there's no transitions or anything, just a straight shot, then cut. For more complex stuff, like the CBSBettas vlog, or Hiking and Camping with Johnnyb, it takes me a couple of hours to sift through the footage (usually more than an hour for each vlog) and narrow it down to the 7 minutes or so that I want to post, apply transitions, etc. If I want music, that adds a LOT of time, because I'm not up on the creative commons scene, and therefore when I think this should have music! the music I think of that would be perfect is usually restricted. I used to vlog daily. I now vlog about once a week for my personal vlog, and just about monthly for the CBS and Johnnyb vlogs (though they've been delayed due to book-writing). --Stephanie On 4/7/06, Monique Danielle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious abouthow much times folks spend editing and what programs they use? Also how oftendo you vlog, as that impacts time available to edit? -- Stephanie Bryant[EMAIL PROTECTED]Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
Damn, my feed is in there as well. On 4/7/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the watch tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be transcoded into flash and hosted there... what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and hosting videos without permission? -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: converting MPEG-4 videos to iPod format
Thanks :) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try this: http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/ On 4/7/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone here gotten FFMPEG to work on Windows. I had a lot of errors when I compiled it. And then I had difficulty getting it to convert to avi to quicktime. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux supercanadian@ wrote: Hello, On 4/6/06, M. Mart bookmarts@ wrote: Hello: The other day someone here told of an inexpensive piece of software for Macs that will convert MPEG-4 videos into an iPod format using iMovie. What is the name of that software? Thanks Michael You can also use FFmpeg. http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/ (It's Free and Open Source software.) On the Mac there's a GUI program for it (I've heard people recommend). It's called ffmpegX: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/video/ffmpegx.html http://homepage.mac.com/major4/ See ya -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links -- Sull http://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?
Yup, I claimed mine to my Veoh account. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the watch tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be transcoded into flash and hosted there... what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and hosting videos without permission? -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: converting MPEG-4 videos to iPod format
I tried this freeware option and it works like a charmMPEG StreamclipYou can use MPEG Streamclip to: open and play most movie formats including MPEG files or transport streams;edit them with Cut, Copy, Paste, and Trim; set In/Out points and convert them into muxed or demuxed files, or export them to QuickTime, AVI, DV and MPEG-4 files with more than professional quality, so you can easily import them in a DVD authoring tool, and use them with many other applications or devices.On 4/7/06, Joshua Seiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I missing something? Why can't you do this with iMovie itself? I'm pretty sure I did I did that last night. (I would have to check the source movie, but it was an mp4 quicktime, I think.)JS On 4/6/06, M. Mart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello:The other day someone here told of an inexpensive piece of software forMacs that will convert MPEG-4 videos into an iPod format using iMovie. Whatis the name of that software?ThanksMichael Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Anne Walkhttp://loadedpun.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
It's no different than most aggregators, except for one GLARING exception...no link back to my vlogsite, or anything that identifies me or my site (aside from what I may have embedded in the clip...) I'll have to sign up to see the entire clips to make sure they are intact. That's not cool. And unless they've got some fancy way to explain this. This actually violates my CC license...by attribution (I am sure I am not the only one) On 4/7/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn, my feed is in there as well. On 4/7/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the watch tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be transcoded into flash and hosted there... what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and hosting videos without permission? -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Stress level 10
While in the middle of this insane engagement of videobloggingweek2006 having a blast, working hard shooting footage, watching your video's, editing, posting commenting a big added stress factor is added in there; My hosting providers server crashes, a raid controller corrupts data from both mirrored disks and they need to restore from a backup last Sunday. THIS WAS NOT FUNNY!!! This means all my hard work is gone !! The most valuable assets are the comments people left on my vlog, they are gone. Of-course i recreated all my posts and upload the content again however all earlier created tags are worthless. Now would you be so kind to (re)-visit my vlog and tell me what you think? I'm fairly new to vlogging and need feedback badly to enhance my joy. And for Steve; I did give credits for the music. :) Thanks get those comments in, I will also try to catch-up for yesterday. Blips http://vlogmatic.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
Hi Josh.While searching for sites for testinggrounds.loadedpun.com, I've found tons of vlogs listed in a great number of sites. They do, indeed, pick up media feeds and list them. Check out Blinkx, for example. I bet you're in there. It's a very strange feeling to go to a community site and find your listings. These places usually have a way to get out of the listings if you find your stuff, but they have no way to prevent you from getting in there in the first place. On 4/7/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the watch tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be transcoded into flash and hosted there... what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and hosting videos without permission?-- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Anne Walkhttp://loadedpun.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Gah!!! Blogger sucks.
Exactly this is right on why i use my own domain-name and space. I only use services for tagging. However if your hosting provider has a hardware problem (see earlier post)your tagging becomes invalid and your vlogs are gone and you have to recreate your stuff. (See stresslevel 10) Oh and now we talk about domains, I have a bunch of vloging domain names for sale. Please visit http://rocketboom.us cavlogs.com would fit you perfectly. blips http://vlogmatic.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, On 4/6/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the heat of VBWeek2K6, these tools continue to fail us. I finally get some comments and my blogspot blog has fallen on it's face :( so I can't reply to the commentsbastards. If we weren't approaching 100 videos and have some subscribers I'd yank the whole works over to our domain(s) and setup a wordpress sitehm...maybe after the 100th video. Yeah, I think that's one of the big problems (from a vlogger's point-of-view) with alot of these free services is lock-in. Once you start using it, you can't leave it; not without alot of pain. (In this case... the pain is loosing your subscribers.) Things like Blogger and FeedBurner... while both great services still lock you in so you can't leave without alot of pain. (Even some of the paid-for services are that way too.) (Of course, from their point-of-view, there may not be any incentive to have these things free unless they can keep you there. So, just to say it explicitly, I am NOT trying to say that they are bad in any way. This is more of an opt-ed. Just so people know what they are getting into.) For a vlogger, it would probably be better to just use own domain right away. See ya -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ _ __ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
I noticed this during SXSW and mentioned it to Halcyon. I haven't had time to follow up with them though. I think it's pretty bogus and violates peoples licenses.-VerdiOn 4/7/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Josh.While searching for sites for testinggrounds.loadedpun.com, I've found tons of vlogs listed in a great number of sites. They do, indeed, pick up media feeds and list them. Check out Blinkx, for example. I bet you're in there. It's a very strange feeling to go to a community site and find your listings. These places usually have a way to get out of the listings if you find your stuff, but they have no way to prevent you from getting in there in the first place. On 4/7/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the watch tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be transcoded into flash and hosted there... what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and hosting videos without permission?-- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Me: http://michaelverdi.comRD: http://evilvlog.comLearn to videoblog: http://freevlog.orgLearn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
So I registered and dowloaded their player...the only way to see entire clips listed on veoh and my stuff is intact. I may have had a knee-jerk reaction earlier (I am famous for them), but by not providing a link back to the originating site, aren't they violating a 'by attribution' cc licence? On 4/7/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's no different than most aggregators, except for one GLARING exception...no link back to my vlogsite, or anything that identifies me or my site (aside from what I may have embedded in the clip...) I'll have to sign up to see the entire clips to make sure they are intact. That's not cool. And unless they've got some fancy way to explain this. This actually violates my CC license...by attribution (I am sure I am not the only one) On 4/7/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn, my feed is in there as well. On 4/7/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the watch tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be transcoded into flash and hosted there... what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and hosting videos without permission? -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
On 4/7/06, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed this during SXSW and mentioned it to Halcyon. I haven't had time to follow up with them though. I think it's pretty bogus and violates peoples licenses. I have sent them an email...not sure how far that will get me..but... -Verdi On 4/7/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Josh. While searching for sites for testinggrounds.loadedpun.com, I've found tons of vlogs listed in a great number of sites. They do, indeed, pick up media feeds and list them. Check out Blinkx, for example. I bet you're in there. It's a very strange feeling to go to a community site and find your listings. These places usually have a way to get out of the listings if you find your stuff, but they have no way to prevent you from getting in there in the first place. On 4/7/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the watch tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be transcoded into flash and hosted there... what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and hosting videos without permission? -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://evilvlog.com Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
vlogdir.com is sort of rare case these days in that it only has vlogs that people have deliberately added... and 99% time it is by the vlog's creator. from day 1 (about a year ago), vlogdir has been a community driven directory represent'n the vlogosphere. oh, and a typical vlog permalink in vlogdir can have about 5 or 6 links to the vlog and feed url ;-)veoh should totally have those linkbacks in by now. that was a complaint i sent in the week they launched. is this confirmed? jeez! sullOn 4/7/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Josh.While searching for sites for testinggrounds.loadedpun.com, I've found tons of vlogs listed in a great number of sites. They do, indeed, pick up media feeds and list them. Check out Blinkx, for example. I bet you're in there. It's a very strange feeling to go to a community site and find your listings. These places usually have a way to get out of the listings if you find your stuff, but they have no way to prevent you from getting in there in the first place. On 4/7/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the watch tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be transcoded into flash and hosted there... what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and hosting videos without permission?-- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
I don't think it's ok what they do. Transcoding video, then hosting it, without attribution is wrong. It's a BIG step beyond, say, Google images listing your image, because they link back to you. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com On 4/7/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I registered and dowloaded their player...the only way to see entire clips listed on veoh and my stuff is intact. I may have had a knee-jerk reaction earlier (I am famous for them), but by not providing a link back to the originating site, aren't they violating a 'by attribution' cc licence? On 4/7/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's no different than most aggregators, except for one GLARING exception...no link back to my vlogsite, or anything that identifies me or my site (aside from what I may have embedded in the clip...) I'll have to sign up to see the entire clips to make sure they are intact. That's not cool. And unless they've got some fancy way to explain this. This actually violates my CC license...by attribution (I am sure I am not the only one) On 4/7/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn, my feed is in there as well. On 4/7/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the watch tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be transcoded into flash and hosted there... what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and hosting videos without permission? -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:03:38 +0200, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I registered and dowloaded their player...the only way to see entire clips listed on veoh and my stuff is intact. Which is a pretty shitty concept since the complete video is already available at people's vlogs. This kind of lock-in is so 1999. I may have had a knee-jerk reaction earlier (I am famous for them), but by not providing a link back to the originating site, aren't they violating a 'by attribution' cc licence? Yes. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
On 4/7/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vlogdir.com is sort of rare case these days in that it only has vlogs that people have deliberately added... and 99% time it is by the vlog's creator. from day 1 (about a year ago), vlogdir has been a community driven directory represent'n the vlogosphere. oh, and a typical vlog permalink in vlogdir can have about 5 or 6 links to the vlog and feed url ;-) veoh should totally have those linkbacks in by now. that was a complaint i sent in the week they launched. is this confirmed? jeez! confirmed, yup: http://veoh.com/seriesDetails.html?s=s1283 Unless I a can't see a link, that is the page to the 'series' of some of our clips. sull On 4/7/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Josh. While searching for sites for testinggrounds.loadedpun.com, I've found tons of vlogs listed in a great number of sites. They do, indeed, pick up media feeds and list them. Check out Blinkx, for example. I bet you're in there. It's a very strange feeling to go to a community site and find your listings. These places usually have a way to get out of the listings if you find your stuff, but they have no way to prevent you from getting in there in the first place. On 4/7/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the watch tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be transcoded into flash and hosted there... what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and hosting videos without permission? -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Sull http://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
And a very fine strategy it is, Sull. Keep up the great work. Vlogdir rawks! -- cheers r Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively my vlog: http://r.24x7.com hosting: http://foo.24x7.com On Apr 7, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: vlogdir.com is sort of rare case these days in that it only has vlogs that people have deliberately added... and 99% time it is by the vlog's creator. from day 1 (about a year ago), vlogdir has been a community driven directory represent'n the vlogosphere.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
On 4/7/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vlogdir.com is sort of rare case these days in that it only has vlogs that people have deliberately added... and 99% time it is by the vlog's creator. from day 1 (about a year ago), vlogdir has been a community driven directory represent'n the vlogosphere. oh, and a typical vlog permalink in vlogdir can have about 5 or 6 links to the vlog and feed url ;-) And that's just one of the many reasons vlogdir kicks ass sull. veoh should totally have those linkbacks in by now. that was a complaint i sent in the week they launched. is this confirmed? jeez! sull On 4/7/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Josh. While searching for sites for testinggrounds.loadedpun.com, I've found tons of vlogs listed in a great number of sites. They do, indeed, pick up media feeds and list them. Check out Blinkx, for example. I bet you're in there. It's a very strange feeling to go to a community site and find your listings. These places usually have a way to get out of the listings if you find your stuff, but they have no way to prevent you from getting in there in the first place. On 4/7/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the watch tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be transcoded into flash and hosted there... what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and hosting videos without permission? -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Sull http://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: need your help saying the words Spot Jill Carroll!
Just in case you're wondering what this was about, it's online now: http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/04/spot_jill_carroll_1.html andy carvin www.andycarvin.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andy Carvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I've got a really odd favor to ask. I'm working on a vlog about my trip to Boston's Logan airport on Sunday to see the arrival of former Iraq hostage Jill Carroll. As some of you may have heard, Carroll evaded the media and whisked away in a limo, leaving the media to do nothing except scratch themselves, trying to interview clueless travelers who happened to be arriving at the same time. So, I've decided to make this little media circus into a gameshow called Spot Jill Carroll! I'm working on the intro right now, and I want to simulate an audience of people yelling out SPOT JILL CARROLL! in a way similar to the opening of Wheel of Fortune (ie, WHEELOFFORTUNE!). Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
Veoh has my whole feed in their service. They have ripped my videos to their formats and are re-distributing them, using their own permalinks. From their own TOS: As explained above, Veoh does not permit copyright infringing activities on the Veoh Service and reserves the right to terminate access to the Veoh Service, and remove all User Materials posted, by any persons who are found to be repeat infringers (i.e., persons found to have uploaded copyright infringing User Material on more than two occasions). Here's the email I sent them: Dear Veoh, You are infringing on my license terms for Hold My Beer and Watch This! (http://mortaine.blogspot.com). I have a creative commons license on my videoblog. My license terms are derivs-ok, non-commercial, and must-attribute. This means that if you make a derivative work by ripping my videos to your format for re-distribution, it must be for non-commercial purposes. From what I can see, Veoh is a commercial entity. If this is not the case, please send me your 501c status documentation. However, you are still violating the must-attribute portion of my videoblog's license, and that is not acceptable. You are displaying my work on your website without attribution to the creator. Please create a clear, unambiguous link-back to my website. Personally, I would prefer it if you made the permalink space on your site as a permalink to the vlog entries on my blog site. It's not as if you don't have that data available, and doesn't seem like it would be too technically difficult. Failure to comply with my CC license means that you are infringing on my copyright, something that is specifically prohibited in the Veoh Terms of Service. Please let me know how you are rectifying this situation. Sincerely, Stephanie Bryant -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
Never had to ask. Never was included to ask to be excluded. Its nice when you are unloved sometimes. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE EXCLUDED from their search and system, just send them an email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] They are aware that not everyone wants to be included and will remove you immediately. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
Eh. It seems to me that an infringe first, remove later policy isn't really a good one. On 4/7/06, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been talking to Veoh about this **BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE EXCLUDED from their search and system, just send them an email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] They are aware that not everyone wants to be included and will remove you immediately. -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
I have talked to Dmitry Shapiro, the CEO and he seemed VERY willing to do what it takes to please broadcasters. They are working on some sort of claim your feed campaign as well. If you don't want to claim your feed, and don't want your content available to Veoh users, email them. I would be very suprised if they didn't remove your feed immediately. -Halcyon On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Veoh has my whole feed in their service. They have ripped my videos to their formats and are re-distributing them, using their own permalinks. From their own TOS: As explained above, Veoh does not permit copyright infringing activities on the Veoh Service and reserves the right to terminate access to the Veoh Service, and remove all User Materials posted, by any persons who are found to be repeat infringers (i.e., persons found to have uploaded copyright infringing User Material on more than two occasions). Here's the email I sent them: Dear Veoh, You are infringing on my license terms for Hold My Beer and Watch This! (http://mortaine.blogspot.com). I have a creative commons license on my videoblog. My license terms are derivs-ok, non-commercial, and must-attribute. This means that if you make a derivative work by ripping my videos to your format for re-distribution, it must be for non-commercial purposes. From what I can see, Veoh is a commercial entity. If this is not the case, please send me your 501c status documentation. However, you are still violating the must-attribute portion of my videoblog's license, and that is not acceptable. You are displaying my work on your website without attribution to the creator. Please create a clear, unambiguous link-back to my website. Personally, I would prefer it if you made the permalink space on your site as a permalink to the vlog entries on my blog site. It's not as if you don't have that data available, and doesn't seem like it would be too technically difficult. Failure to comply with my CC license means that you are infringing on my copyright, something that is specifically prohibited in the Veoh Terms of Service. Please let me know how you are rectifying this situation. Sincerely, Stephanie Bryant -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links -- www.SpreadingThePink.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
On 4/7/06, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been talking to Veoh about this There are working towards a system of organizing the (quickly becoming unmanagable) amount of video content. Part of the proicess was indexing and presenting RSS feeds. I claimed (see below) my feed so that I can be in charge of my Veoh comments, links, etc.Hey Halcyon, thanks for chiming in.I shouldn't have to claim a feed for my license to be respected. In order to display my material, it has to be by attribution. Veoh is not abiding by this. I don't care if they pick up my feed, it's online for anyone to view, but to have it not linked back to me is the no-no.I've sent them 2 messages via their contact form and am awaiting a response. Why I like Veoh: up to a 10 min. flash preview that i can embed OR use their pre-built Vlog format: see: http://veoh.com/vlogs/cockyvision. Its great for lazy people like me, I can upload a full res version for tv-quality download, and let the Veoh system worry about my web-based Vlog. (emcoding, hosting, and rss) **BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE EXCLUDED from their search and system, just send them an email. [EMAIL PROTECTED]. They are aware that not everyone wants to be included and will remove you immediately.Do you know if it is an 'all or nothing' deal? (I either have my feed there and not get attribution, or have it removed?)Why don't they simply add a link back to the originating site? It's very simple to do. FireAnt, Mefeedia, Vlogdir (sorry if I omit anyone...) do it in several places (link to comments, link to the video, etc) TO CLAIM YOUR FEED: If you would like to claim your feed and control how they are presented on Veoh from your own account, please follow these instructions. Here's how you claim your feed on Veoh: 1. Go to the series page for your vlog 2. Select the Claim Feed button. 3. You'll be asked to place a snippet of code into your vlog. 4. Once you have done that select the Verify button. -Hal http://veoh.com/vlogs/cockyvision -- ~Devlonhttp://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
Benefits of the system (hosting, rss, flash, etc) aside, this is the part that is total crap. It should be an opt-in system not an opt-out. That's inexcusable.-VerdiOn 4/7/06, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE EXCLUDED from their search and system, justsend them an email. [EMAIL PROTECTED]. They are aware that not everyonewants to be included and will remove you immediately. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
this *sounds* really easy, and I'm probably just losing my mind here, but how do i do this? I am using Typepad and I am not sure *how* i am suppose to place this snippet in my vlog? veoh tells me to put it in my feed, which is equally confusing for me. thanks... Trine www.davidandtrine.org On 7 Apr 2006, at 18:34, Halcyon Lujah wrote: Here's how you claim your feed on Veoh: 1. Go to the series page for your vlog 2. Select the Claim Feed button. 3. You'll be asked to place a snippet of code into your vlog. 4. Once you have done that select the Verify button. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
probably similar to what technorati does if you put some html (usually a script) on your blog then they can pull it (or your feed perhaps, usually these are in the sidebar however) and know you really can edit it and hence it must be yours. the html also usually displays some logo and link to the site (veoh in this case) for my part, i don't like the idea of have to "claim" my vlog in this way (it does not feel optional). i'd like to know if i can remove my feed from voeh if i claim it. still don't like having to sign up even to do that. markus trine berry wrote: my stuff is there as well. im confused, though. it tells me that in order to claim my feed, i have to insert some html in my feed thanks trine On 7 Apr 2006, at 18:17, Devlon wrote: On 4/7/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vlogdir.com is sort of rare case these days in that it only has vlogs that people have deliberately added... and 99% time it is by the vlog's creator. from day 1 (about a year ago), vlogdir has been a community driven directory represent'n the vlogosphere. oh, and a typical vlog permalink in vlogdir can have about 5 or 6 links to the vlog and feed url ;-) veoh should totally have those linkbacks in by now. that was a complaint i sent in the week they launched. is this confirmed? jeez! confirmed, yup: http://veoh.com/seriesDetails.html?s=s1283 Unless I a can't see a link, that is the page to the 'series' of some of our clips. sull On 4/7/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Josh. While searching for sites for testinggrounds.loadedpun.com, I've found tons of vlogs listed in a great number of sites. They do, indeed, pick up media feeds and list them. Check out Blinkx, for example. I bet you're in there. It's a very strange feeling to go to a community site and find your listings. These places usually have a way to get out of the listings if you find your stuff, but they have no way to prevent you from getting in there in the first place. On 4/7/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the "watch" tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be transcoded into flash and hosted there... what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and hosting videos without permission? -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Sull http://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
nicely put...I may have to copy and paste that in an email to them if you succeedOn 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Veoh has my whole feed in their service. They have ripped my videos to their formats and are re-distributing them, using their ownpermalinks.From their own TOS: As explained above, Veoh does not permit copyright infringingactivities on the Veoh Service and reserves the right to terminate access to the Veoh Service, and remove all User Materials posted, byany persons who are found to be repeat infringers (i.e., persons foundto have uploaded copyright infringing User Material on more than two occasions).Here's the email I sent them:Dear Veoh,You are infringing on my license terms for Hold My Beer and WatchThis! (http://mortaine.blogspot.com ).I have a creative commons license on my videoblog. My license termsare derivs-ok, non-commercial, and must-attribute. This means that ifyou make a derivative work by ripping my videos to your format for re-distribution, it must be for non-commercial purposes. From what Ican see, Veoh is a commercial entity. If this is not the case, pleasesend me your 501c status documentation.However, you are still violating the must-attribute portion of my videoblog's license, and that is not acceptable. You are displaying mywork on your website without attribution to the creator. Please createa clear, unambiguous link-back to my website. Personally, I would prefer it if you made the permalink space on your site as a permalinkto the vlog entries on my blog site. It's not as if you don't havethat data available, and doesn't seem like it would be too technicallydifficult. Failure to comply with my CC license means that you are infringing onmy copyright, something that is specifically prohibited in the VeohTerms of Service.Please let me know how you are rectifying this situation. Sincerely,Stephanie Bryant--Stephanie Bryant[EMAIL PROTECTED]Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at:http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Josh Leowww.JoshLeo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
that is messed up, man down with veoh!!! Halcyon Lujah wrote: **BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE EXCLUDED from their search and system, just send them an email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] They are aware that not everyone wants to be included and will remove you immediately. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
You're using Feedburner, so it's easy. Just use Feedburners Title/Description burner option under the optimise tab and add the code to your feed description. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, trine berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this *sounds* really easy, and I'm probably just losing my mind here, but how do i do this? I am using Typepad and I am not sure *how* i am suppose to place this snippet in my vlog? veoh tells me to put it in my feed, which is equally confusing for me. thanks... Trine www.davidandtrine.org On 7 Apr 2006, at 18:34, Halcyon Lujah wrote: Here's how you claim your feed on Veoh: 1. Go to the series page for your vlog 2. Select the Claim Feed button. 3. You'll be asked to place a snippet of code into your vlog. 4. Once you have done that select the Verify button. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
So many sites are starting to do this...one should be picked and made an example of maybe? On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh. It seems to me that an infringe first, remove later policy isn't really a good one. On 4/7/06, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been talking to Veoh about this **BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE EXCLUDED from their search and system, just send them an email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] They are aware that not everyone wants to be included and will remove you immediately. -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
On 4/7/06, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have talked to Dmitry Shapiro, the CEO and he seemed VERY willing to do what it takes to please broadcasters. They are working on some sort of claim your feed campaign as well. They don't get it. That isn't a solution. If you don't want to claim your feed, and don't want your content available to Veoh users, email them. I would be very suprised if they didn't remove your feed immediately. :) Again, not the point. It's like lifting something from a store...if you don't get caught did the crime still happen..um, yeah. In most cases a simple link back to the originating site would be sufficient, why is that so hard for them to do...no campaing required, just abide the producers license...easy. -Halcyon On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Veoh has my whole feed in their service. They have ripped my videos to their formats and are re-distributing them, using their own permalinks. From their own TOS: As explained above, Veoh does not permit copyright infringing activities on the Veoh Service and reserves the right to terminate access to the Veoh Service, and remove all User Materials posted, by any persons who are found to be repeat infringers (i.e., persons found to have uploaded copyright infringing User Material on more than two occasions). Here's the email I sent them: Dear Veoh, You are infringing on my license terms for Hold My Beer and Watch This! (http://mortaine.blogspot.com). I have a creative commons license on my videoblog. My license terms are derivs-ok, non-commercial, and must-attribute. This means that if you make a derivative work by ripping my videos to your format for re-distribution, it must be for non-commercial purposes. From what I can see, Veoh is a commercial entity. If this is not the case, please send me your 501c status documentation. However, you are still violating the must-attribute portion of my videoblog's license, and that is not acceptable. You are displaying my work on your website without attribution to the creator. Please create a clear, unambiguous link-back to my website. Personally, I would prefer it if you made the permalink space on your site as a permalink to the vlog entries on my blog site. It's not as if you don't have that data available, and doesn't seem like it would be too technically difficult. Failure to comply with my CC license means that you are infringing on my copyright, something that is specifically prohibited in the Veoh Terms of Service. Please let me know how you are rectifying this situation. Sincerely, Stephanie Bryant -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links -- www.SpreadingThePink.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
and are we suppose to deal with EVERY feed we produce or manage? how thoughtless of them boycott Veoh!!! Halcyon Lujah wrote: **BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE EXCLUDED from their search and system, just send them an email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] They are aware that not everyone wants to be included and will remove you immediately. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: converting MPEG-4 videos to iPod format
Along these lines, anyone got tips on converting MPEG-2 to iPod (or even just a format iTunes will recognize properly). This is on a PC (free or cheap solutions preferred). Cheers, Rob --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried this freeware option and it works like a charm MPEG Streamclip http://www.squared5.com/ *You can use MPEG Streamclip to: open and play most movie formats including MPEG files or transport streams; edit them with Cut, Copy, Paste, and Trim; set In/Out points and convert them into muxed or demuxed files, or export them to QuickTime, AVI, DV and MPEG-4 files with more than professional quality, so you can easily import them in a DVD authoring tool, and use them with many other applications or devices.* On 4/7/06, Joshua Seiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I missing something? Why can't you do this with iMovie itself? I'm pretty sure I did I did that last night. (I would have to check the source movie, but it was an mp4 quicktime, I think.) JS On 4/6/06, M. Mart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: The other day someone here told of an inexpensive piece of software for Macs that will convert MPEG-4 videos into an iPod format using iMovie. What is the name of that software? Thanks Michael Yahoo! Groups Links -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]videoblogging- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Servicehttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . -- -- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
put it in a type list (use a note or link one) feel free to ask if you want more specific instructions trine berry wrote: this *sounds* really easy, and I'm probably just losing my mind here, but how do i do this? I am using Typepad and I am not sure *how* i am suppose to place this snippet in my vlog? veoh tells me to put it in my feed, which is equally confusing for me. thanks... Trine www.davidandtrine.org On 7 Apr 2006, at 18:34, Halcyon Lujah wrote: Here's how you claim your feed on Veoh: 1. Go to the series page for your vlog 2. Select the "Claim Feed" button. 3. You'll be asked to place a snippet of code into your vlog. 4. Once you have done that select the "Verify" button. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
In most cases a simple link back to the originating site would be sufficient, why is that so hard for them to do... I just sent them an email asking about this, specifically. -Halcyon Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
there you go! just like technorati but in your feed ignore my typelist comment bill's idea is probably what they mean markus Bill Streeter wrote: You're using Feedburner, so it's easy. Just use Feedburners Title/Description burner option under the optimise tab and add the code to your feed description. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
Bullshit: they are clearly, blatantly violating licenses by re-encoding and not linking back. All they need to do is attribute, and it'll be mostly ok. Saying: contact us and we'll stop violating your license isn't enough. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com On 4/7/06, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have talked to Dmitry Shapiro, the CEO and he seemed VERY willing to do what it takes to please broadcasters. They are working on some sort of claim your feed campaign as well. If you don't want to claim your feed, and don't want your content available to Veoh users, email them. I would be very suprised if they didn't remove your feed immediately. -Halcyon On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Veoh has my whole feed in their service. They have ripped my videos to their formats and are re-distributing them, using their own permalinks. From their own TOS: As explained above, Veoh does not permit copyright infringing activities on the Veoh Service and reserves the right to terminate access to the Veoh Service, and remove all User Materials posted, by any persons who are found to be repeat infringers (i.e., persons found to have uploaded copyright infringing User Material on more than two occasions). Here's the email I sent them: Dear Veoh, You are infringing on my license terms for Hold My Beer and Watch This! (http://mortaine.blogspot.com). I have a creative commons license on my videoblog. My license terms are derivs-ok, non-commercial, and must-attribute. This means that if you make a derivative work by ripping my videos to your format for re-distribution, it must be for non-commercial purposes. From what I can see, Veoh is a commercial entity. If this is not the case, please send me your 501c status documentation. However, you are still violating the must-attribute portion of my videoblog's license, and that is not acceptable. You are displaying my work on your website without attribution to the creator. Please create a clear, unambiguous link-back to my website. Personally, I would prefer it if you made the permalink space on your site as a permalink to the vlog entries on my blog site. It's not as if you don't have that data available, and doesn't seem like it would be too technically difficult. Failure to comply with my CC license means that you are infringing on my copyright, something that is specifically prohibited in the Veoh Terms of Service. Please let me know how you are rectifying this situation. Sincerely, Stephanie Bryant -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links -- www.SpreadingThePink.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh. It seems to me that an infringe first, remove later policy isn't really a good one. +1. Especially if infringing was so unnecessary. I am actually talking to my laywer about this. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
There should be a specific RSS tag that performs the equivalent of robots.txt in specifying what syndication rights are granted, generally, and specifically? --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
Egads their unclaimed rss user includes a whole bunch of the feeds I watch. This is horrible for anyone who is doing stuff where the image quality is key - I just looked at the latest scratchvideo entry in its VEOH version, and the careful, contemplative observation is reduced to a garish pixellated horror in its flash version, apparently without any contact with the author at all. __ brook hinton www.brookhinton.com brookhinton.typepad.com/tracegarden Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
You can add your licensing info to your feed. RSS handles this, it's Veoh that isn't playing by the rules. On 4/7/06, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There should be a specific RSS tag that performs the equivalent of robots.txt in specifying what syndication rights are granted, generally, and specifically? --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
Jarrod at veoh has been in touch with me and I've mentioned how simple it is to adhere to most of these concerns by simply adding a permalink to the site and to the individual clips.I used the aggregators that do get it as examples of how very simple it is to do this. The info is in the feed...they are purposely not mining that information and not using it on their site. On 4/7/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bullshit: they are clearly, blatantly violating licenses by re-encoding and not linking back. All they need to do is attribute, and it'll be mostly ok. Saying: contact us and we'll stop violating your license isn't enough. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com On 4/7/06, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have talked to Dmitry Shapiro, the CEO and he seemed VERY willing to do what it takes to please broadcasters. They are working on some sort of claim your feed campaign as well. If you don't want to claim your feed, and don't want your content available to Veoh users, email them. I would be very suprised if they didn't remove your feed immediately. -Halcyon On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Veoh has my whole feed in their service. They have ripped my videos to their formats and are re-distributing them, using their own permalinks. From their own TOS: As explained above, Veoh does not permit copyright infringing activities on the Veoh Service and reserves the right to terminate access to the Veoh Service, and remove all User Materials posted, by any persons who are found to be repeat infringers (i.e., persons found to have uploaded copyright infringing User Material on more than two occasions). Here's the email I sent them: Dear Veoh, You are infringing on my license terms for Hold My Beer and Watch This! (http://mortaine.blogspot.com). I have a creative commons license on my videoblog. My license terms are derivs-ok, non-commercial, and must-attribute. This means that if you make a derivative work by ripping my videos to your format for re-distribution, it must be for non-commercial purposes. From what I can see, Veoh is a commercial entity. If this is not the case, please send me your 501c status documentation. However, you are still violating the must-attribute portion of my videoblog's license, and that is not acceptable. You are displaying my work on your website without attribution to the creator. Please create a clear, unambiguous link-back to my website. Personally, I would prefer it if you made the permalink space on your site as a permalink to the vlog entries on my blog site. It's not as if you don't have that data available, and doesn't seem like it would be too technically difficult. Failure to comply with my CC license means that you are infringing on my copyright, something that is specifically prohibited in the Veoh Terms of Service. Please let me know how you are rectifying this situation. Sincerely, Stephanie Bryant -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links -- www.SpreadingThePink.com Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlonhttp://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
On 4/7/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh. It seems to me that an infringe first, remove later policy isn't really a good one. +1. Especially if infringing was so unnecessary. I am actually talking to my laywer about this. Good, like I said, someone needs their hands slapped very publicly to send a message. NBC gets all over YouTube for the same thing. We have the same rights. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
Even an opt-in system has no real checks and balances for ensuring the owner of the feed is signing it up... this is why I never implemented this functionality. It just seemed like a bad idea waiting to happen. Michael Verdi wrote: Benefits of the system (hosting, rss, flash, etc) aside, this is the part that is total crap. It should be an opt-in system not an opt-out. That's inexcusable. -Verdi On 4/7/06, * Halcyon Lujah* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE EXCLUDED from their search and system, just send them an email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. They are aware that not everyone wants to be included and will remove you immediately. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=hfs_5_0lBhh4r_ghxepr0w Individual http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=GUaJZU-r1JDlLAUOsMLl8g Use http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=LXDZ5r7JrGSXuirwFdbEXw YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- Brad Webb, Founder/CTO vSocial (http://www.vsocial.com) 51 W. Third Street, #301 Tempe, AZ 85281 (480) 967-9543 - Direct Line (480) 967-9575 - Fax Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
It isn't as simple as adding a link back. Most people use some version of the non-commercial cc license. If that's the case they shouldn't be allowed to host your stuff at all unless you specifically grant them that license. What you are saying with the NC license is that it is NOT okay to use this for commercial purposes (since VEOH is hosting your content on their commercial site instead of just linking to it, it's a commercial use) without first obtaining permission from the creator. They are not doing this. Providing a link back only fixes the attribution clause. -VerdiOn 4/7/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jarrod at veoh has been in touch with me and I've mentioned how simple it is to adhere to most of these concerns by simply adding a permalink to the site and to the individual clips.I used the aggregators that do get it as examples of how very simple it is to do this. The info is in the feed...they are purposely not mining that information and not using it on their site. On 4/7/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bullshit: they are clearly, blatantly violating licenses by re-encoding and not linking back. All they need to do is attribute, and it'll be mostly ok. Saying: contact us and we'll stop violating your license isn't enough. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com On 4/7/06, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have talked to Dmitry Shapiro, the CEO and he seemed VERY willing to do what it takes to please broadcasters. They are working on some sort of claim your feed campaign as well. If you don't want to claim your feed, and don't want your content available to Veoh users, email them. I would be very suprised if they didn't remove your feed immediately. -Halcyon On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Veoh has my whole feed in their service. They have ripped my videos to their formats and are re-distributing them, using their own permalinks. From their own TOS: As explained above, Veoh does not permit copyright infringing activities on the Veoh Service and reserves the right to terminate access to the Veoh Service, and remove all User Materials posted, by any persons who are found to be repeat infringers (i.e., persons found to have uploaded copyright infringing User Material on more than two occasions). Here's the email I sent them: Dear Veoh, You are infringing on my license terms for Hold My Beer and Watch This! (http://mortaine.blogspot.com). I have a creative commons license on my videoblog. My license terms are derivs-ok, non-commercial, and must-attribute. This means that if you make a derivative work by ripping my videos to your format for re-distribution, it must be for non-commercial purposes. From what I can see, Veoh is a commercial entity. If this is not the case, please send me your 501c status documentation. However, you are still violating the must-attribute portion of my videoblog's license, and that is not acceptable. You are displaying my work on your website without attribution to the creator. Please create a clear, unambiguous link-back to my website. Personally, I would prefer it if you made the permalink space on your site as a permalink to the vlog entries on my blog site. It's not as if you don't have that data available, and doesn't seem like it would be too technically difficult. Failure to comply with my CC license means that you are infringing on my copyright, something that is specifically prohibited in the Veoh Terms of Service. Please let me know how you are rectifying this situation. Sincerely, Stephanie Bryant -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links -- www.SpreadingThePink.com Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlonhttp://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Me:
[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?
Yeah this addresses the atribution issue, what about the commercial clauses? Is Veoh violating the non-commercial clause in peoples CC licenses? Is Veoh a commercial entity? It would see so. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jarrod at veoh has been in touch with me and I've mentioned how simple it is to adhere to most of these concerns by simply adding a permalink to the site and to the individual clips. I used the aggregators that do get it as examples of how very simple it is to do this. The info is in the feed...they are purposely not mining that information and not using it on their site. On 4/7/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bullshit: they are clearly, blatantly violating licenses by re-encoding and not linking back. All they need to do is attribute, and it'll be mostly ok. Saying: contact us and we'll stop violating your license isn't enough. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com On 4/7/06, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have talked to Dmitry Shapiro, the CEO and he seemed VERY willing to do what it takes to please broadcasters. They are working on some sort of claim your feed campaign as well. If you don't want to claim your feed, and don't want your content available to Veoh users, email them. I would be very suprised if they didn't remove your feed immediately. -Halcyon On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Veoh has my whole feed in their service. They have ripped my videos to their formats and are re-distributing them, using their own permalinks. From their own TOS: As explained above, Veoh does not permit copyright infringing activities on the Veoh Service and reserves the right to terminate access to the Veoh Service, and remove all User Materials posted, by any persons who are found to be repeat infringers (i.e., persons found to have uploaded copyright infringing User Material on more than two occasions). Here's the email I sent them: Dear Veoh, You are infringing on my license terms for Hold My Beer and Watch This! (http://mortaine.blogspot.com).http://mortaine.blogspot.com%29. I have a creative commons license on my videoblog. My license terms are derivs-ok, non-commercial, and must-attribute. This means that if you make a derivative work by ripping my videos to your format for re-distribution, it must be for non-commercial purposes. From what I can see, Veoh is a commercial entity. If this is not the case, please send me your 501c status documentation. However, you are still violating the must-attribute portion of my videoblog's license, and that is not acceptable. You are displaying my work on your website without attribution to the creator. Please create a clear, unambiguous link-back to my website. Personally, I would prefer it if you made the permalink space on your site as a permalink to the vlog entries on my blog site. It's not as if you don't have that data available, and doesn't seem like it would be too technically difficult. Failure to comply with my CC license means that you are infringing on my copyright, something that is specifically prohibited in the Veoh Terms of Service. Please let me know how you are rectifying this situation. Sincerely, Stephanie Bryant -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links -- www.SpreadingThePink.com Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=hfs_5_0l Bhh4r_ghxepr0w Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=GUaJZ U-r1JDlLAUOsMLl8g Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=LXDZ5r7JrGSX uirwFdbEXw -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]videoblogging- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject
Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
Devlon, The big difference here is.. YouTube didn't directly and specifically upload the content -- or create a specific system to scour for and grab that content. From what I can tell, Veoh did just that, no? My users breaking a license and me knowingly doing the same thing... big difference, and not in a positive way. Devlon wrote: On 4/7/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh. It seems to me that an infringe first, remove later policy isn't really a good one. +1. Especially if infringing was so unnecessary. I am actually talking to my laywer about this. Good, like I said, someone needs their hands slapped very publicly to send a message. NBC gets all over YouTube for the same thing. We have the same rights. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Brad Webb, Founder/CTO vSocial (http://www.vsocial.com) 51 W. Third Street, #301 Tempe, AZ 85281 (480) 967-9543 - Direct Line (480) 967-9575 - Fax Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?
Yeah what I said ... ;) Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It isn't as simple as adding a link back. Most people use some version of the non-commercial cc license. If that's the case they shouldn't be allowed to host your stuff at all unless you specifically grant them that license. What you are saying with the NC license is that it is NOT okay to use this for commercial purposes (since VEOH is hosting your content on their commercial site instead of just linking to it, it's a commercial use) without first obtaining permission from the creator. They are not doing this. Providing a link back only fixes the attribution clause. -Verdi On 4/7/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jarrod at veoh has been in touch with me and I've mentioned how simple it is to adhere to most of these concerns by simply adding a permalink to the site and to the individual clips. I used the aggregators that do get it as examples of how very simple it is to do this. The info is in the feed...they are purposely not mining that information and not using it on their site. On 4/7/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bullshit: they are clearly, blatantly violating licenses by re-encoding and not linking back. All they need to do is attribute, and it'll be mostly ok. Saying: contact us and we'll stop violating your license isn't enough. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com On 4/7/06, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have talked to Dmitry Shapiro, the CEO and he seemed VERY willing to do what it takes to please broadcasters. They are working on some sort of claim your feed campaign as well. If you don't want to claim your feed, and don't want your content available to Veoh users, email them. I would be very suprised if they didn't remove your feed immediately. -Halcyon On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Veoh has my whole feed in their service. They have ripped my videos to their formats and are re-distributing them, using their own permalinks. From their own TOS: As explained above, Veoh does not permit copyright infringing activities on the Veoh Service and reserves the right to terminate access to the Veoh Service, and remove all User Materials posted, by any persons who are found to be repeat infringers (i.e., persons found to have uploaded copyright infringing User Material on more than two occasions). Here's the email I sent them: Dear Veoh, You are infringing on my license terms for Hold My Beer and Watch This! (http://mortaine.blogspot.com).http://mortaine.blogspot.com%29. I have a creative commons license on my videoblog. My license terms are derivs-ok, non-commercial, and must-attribute. This means that if you make a derivative work by ripping my videos to your format for re-distribution, it must be for non-commercial purposes. From what I can see, Veoh is a commercial entity. If this is not the case, please send me your 501c status documentation. However, you are still violating the must-attribute portion of my videoblog's license, and that is not acceptable. You are displaying my work on your website without attribution to the creator. Please create a clear, unambiguous link-back to my website. Personally, I would prefer it if you made the permalink space on your site as a permalink to the vlog entries on my blog site. It's not as if you don't have that data available, and doesn't seem like it would be too technically difficult. Failure to comply with my CC license means that you are infringing on my copyright, something that is specifically prohibited in the Veoh Terms of Service. Please let me know how you are rectifying this situation. Sincerely, Stephanie Bryant -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links -- www.SpreadingThePink.com Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=hfs_5_0l Bhh4r_ghxepr0w Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=GUaJZ U-r1JDlLAUOsMLl8g Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=LXDZ5r7JrGSX uirwFdbEXw -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]videoblogging- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo!
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
Actually, they're outright infringing on my husband's videoblog. For those who don't know, my husband is a VERY private person. It took all my wheedling to get him to agree to be videotaped while hiking. Getting him to release it under a CC license was a no-go. So, his is cc-0, 100% copyrighted. No derivs, no usage, etc. It's on blip, so blip gets to list and host the content, but that's it. Taking it and attributing it-- still not OK for his. Veoh's ripped it and posted it. I don't want to be a meanie, but yeah. I think I'll give my lawyer friend a call. We're working together on a vlogging law seminar-- I'm sure he'd have fun with this one! --Stephanie On 4/7/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bullshit: they are clearly, blatantly violating licenses by re-encoding and not linking back. All they need to do is attribute, and it'll be mostly ok. Saying: contact us and we'll stop violating your license isn't enough. Peter -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Week of Vlogging Dangerously/VlogWeek2006
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: converting MPEG-4 videos to iPod format
mpeg streamclip does this rob. it's freeware. i tried it on a pc. still to test it on a mac.you can also do simple edits with it. and its a universal player as well. i was quite impressed by it, for what it is. On 4/7/06, cooper3acd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Along these lines, anyone got tips on converting MPEG-2 to iPod (oreven just a format iTunes will recognize properly).This is on a PC (free or cheap solutions preferred).Cheers,Rob--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Anne Walk[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried this freeware option and it works like a charm MPEG Streamclip http://www.squared5.com/ *You can use MPEG Streamclip to: open and play most movie formatsincluding MPEG files or transport streams; edit them with Cut, Copy, Paste,and Trim; set In/Out points and convert them into muxed or demuxed files, or export them to QuickTime, AVI, DV and MPEG-4 files with more thanprofessional quality, so you can easily import them in a DVD authoring tool,and use them with many other applications or devices.* On 4/7/06, Joshua Seiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I missing something? Why can't you do this with iMovieitself? I'm pretty sure I did I did that last night. (I would have to check the source movie, but it was an mp4 quicktime, I think.) JSOn 4/6/06, M. Mart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: The other day someone here told of an inexpensive piece ofsoftware for Macs that will convert MPEG-4 videos into an iPod format usingiMovie. What is the name of that software? Thanks Michael Yahoo! Groups Links -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit yourgroup videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]videoblogging- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms ofServicehttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . -- -- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.com Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Anne Walkhttp://loadedpun.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
On 4/7/06, Brad Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon, The big difference here is.. YouTube didn't directly and specifically upload the content -- or create a specific system to scour for and grab that content. From what I can tell, Veoh did just that, no? My users breaking a license and me knowingly doing the same thing... big difference, and not in a positive way.I am sorry, yes. Very good point, thanks. Getting all hopped up over this and not engaging brain before typing :) Devlon wrote: On 4/7/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh. It seems to me that an infringe first, remove later policy isn't really a good one. +1. Especially if infringing was so unnecessary. I am actually talking to my laywer about this. Good, like I said, someone needs their hands slapped very publicly to send a message. NBC gets all over YouTube for the same thing. We have the same rights. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Brad Webb, Founder/CTO vSocial (http://www.vsocial.com) 51 W. Third Street, #301 Tempe, AZ 85281 (480) 967-9543 - Direct Line (480) 967-9575 - Fax SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlonhttp://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?
Since the media's delivery method is a feed, would it be required to have the license information in the feed?On 4/7/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah this addresses the atribution issue, what about the commercial clauses? Is Veoh violating the non-commercial clause in peoples CC licenses? Is Veoh a commercial entity? It would see so. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jarrod at veoh has been in touch with me and I've mentioned how simple it is to adhere to most of these concerns by simply adding a permalink to the site and to the individual clips. I used the aggregators that do get it as examples of how very simple it is to do this. The info is in the feed...they are purposely not mining that information and not using it on their site. On 4/7/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bullshit: they are clearly, blatantly violating licenses by re-encoding and not linking back. All they need to do is attribute, and it'll be mostly ok. Saying: contact us and we'll stop violating your license isn't enough. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com On 4/7/06, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have talked to Dmitry Shapiro, the CEO and he seemed VERY willing to do what it takes to please broadcasters. They are working on some sort of claim your feed campaign as well. If you don't want to claim your feed, and don't want your content available to Veoh users, email them. I would be very suprised if they didn't remove your feed immediately. -Halcyon On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Veoh has my whole feed in their service. They have ripped my videos to their formats and are re-distributing them, using their own permalinks. From their own TOS: As explained above, Veoh does not permit copyright infringing activities on the Veoh Service and reserves the right to terminate access to the Veoh Service, and remove all User Materials posted, by any persons who are found to be repeat infringers (i.e., persons found to have uploaded copyright infringing User Material on more than two occasions). Here's the email I sent them: Dear Veoh, You are infringing on my license terms for Hold My Beer and Watch This! (http://mortaine.blogspot.com). http://mortaine.blogspot.com%29. I have a creative commons license on my videoblog. My license terms are derivs-ok, non-commercial, and must-attribute. This means that if you make a derivative work by ripping my videos to your format for re-distribution, it must be for non-commercial purposes. >From what I can see, Veoh is a commercial entity. If this is not the case, please send me your 501c status documentation. However, you are still violating the must-attribute portion of my videoblog's license, and that is not acceptable. You are displaying my work on your website without attribution to the creator. Please create a clear, unambiguous link-back to my website. Personally, I would prefer it if you made the permalink space on your site as a permalink to the vlog entries on my blog site. It's not as if you don't have that data available, and doesn't seem like it would be too technically difficult. Failure to comply with my CC license means that you are infringing on my copyright, something that is specifically prohibited in the Veoh Terms of Service. Please let me know how you are rectifying this situation. Sincerely, Stephanie Bryant -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links -- www.SpreadingThePink.com Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=hfs_5_0l Bhh4r_ghxepr0w Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=GUaJZ U-r1JDlLAUOsMLl8g Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=LXDZ5r7JrGSX uirwFdbEXw -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]videoblogging- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
Bwahaha...look what I have started... Glad to know i got a good ball rolling!On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Actually, they're outright infringing on my husband's videoblog. For those who don't know, my husband is a VERY private person. It tookall my wheedling to get him to agree to be videotaped while hiking.Getting him to release it under a CC license was a no-go.So, his is cc-0, 100% copyrighted. No derivs, no usage, etc. It's on blip, so blip gets to list and host the content, but that's it. Takingit and attributing it-- still not OK for his.Veoh's ripped it and posted it.I don't want to be a meanie, but yeah. I think I'll give my lawyer friend a call. We're working together on a vlogging law seminar-- I'msure he'd have fun with this one!--StephanieOn 4/7/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bullshit: they are clearly, blatantly violating licenses by re-encoding and not linking back. All they need to do is attribute, and it'll be mostly ok. Saying: contact us and we'll stop violating your license isn't enough. Peter--Stephanie Bryant[EMAIL PROTECTED]Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at:http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Josh Leowww.JoshLeo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?
I agree... why should I be forced to become a member and claim my feed by entering code into my RSS feed. I ALREADY have to do so much to make sure my RSS feed caters to iTunes... I personally prefer sites like MeFeedia who download the original .mov file to their service. When people change my show to Flash, I can't keep track of all those extra downloads in my statistics. Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bullshit: they are clearly, blatantly violating licenses by re-encoding and not linking back. All they need to do is attribute, and it'll be mostly ok. Saying: contact us and we'll stop violating your license isn't enough. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com On 4/7/06, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have talked to Dmitry Shapiro, the CEO and he seemed VERY willing to do what it takes to please broadcasters. They are working on some sort of claim your feed campaign as well. If you don't want to claim your feed, and don't want your content available to Veoh users, email them. I would be very suprised if they didn't remove your feed immediately. -Halcyon On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Veoh has my whole feed in their service. They have ripped my videos to their formats and are re-distributing them, using their own permalinks. From their own TOS: As explained above, Veoh does not permit copyright infringing activities on the Veoh Service and reserves the right to terminate access to the Veoh Service, and remove all User Materials posted, by any persons who are found to be repeat infringers (i.e., persons found to have uploaded copyright infringing User Material on more than two occasions). Here's the email I sent them: Dear Veoh, You are infringing on my license terms for Hold My Beer and Watch This! (http://mortaine.blogspot.com). I have a creative commons license on my videoblog. My license terms are derivs-ok, non-commercial, and must-attribute. This means that if you make a derivative work by ripping my videos to your format for re-distribution, it must be for non-commercial purposes. From what I can see, Veoh is a commercial entity. If this is not the case, please send me your 501c status documentation. However, you are still violating the must-attribute portion of my videoblog's license, and that is not acceptable. You are displaying my work on your website without attribution to the creator. Please create a clear, unambiguous link-back to my website. Personally, I would prefer it if you made the permalink space on your site as a permalink to the vlog entries on my blog site. It's not as if you don't have that data available, and doesn't seem like it would be too technically difficult. Failure to comply with my CC license means that you are infringing on my copyright, something that is specifically prohibited in the Veoh Terms of Service. Please let me know how you are rectifying this situation. Sincerely, Stephanie Bryant -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links -- www.SpreadingThePink.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
This sucks. I'd say more than that, but I don't want to get a reputation for boudmouthing competitors of any sort. I think there are a few things we can do from here. First of all, we can ban Veoh from blip. We would do this to keep them from scraping any more blip RSS feeds (which they're obviously doing) and to keep them from downloading anymore blip-hosted videos. I think we would do this if the community wants us to, but not without some consultation. Do you guys want this? I'm also going to discuss this with blip's lawyers to see if there's anything we can do. If any blip users have had their content stolen by Veoh please drop me a private e-mail (mike AT blip DOT tv) and I'll look into whether we can give you a hand with some legal measures. Yours, Mike Co-founder, blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/7/06, Brad Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon, The big difference here is.. YouTube didn't directly and specifically upload the content -- or create a specific system to scour for and grab that content. From what I can tell, Veoh did just that, no? My users breaking a license and me knowingly doing the same thing... big difference, and not in a positive way. I am sorry, yes. Very good point, thanks. Getting all hopped up over this and not engaging brain before typing :) Devlon wrote: On 4/7/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh. It seems to me that an infringe first, remove later policy isn't really a good one. +1. Especially if infringing was so unnecessary. I am actually talking to my laywer about this. Good, like I said, someone needs their hands slapped very publicly to send a message. NBC gets all over YouTube for the same thing. We have the same rights. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Brad Webb, Founder/CTO vSocial (http://www.vsocial.com) http://www.vsocial.com%29 51 W. Third Street, #301 Tempe, AZ 85281 (480) 967-9543 - Direct Line (480) 967-9575 - Fax SPONSORED LINKS Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=hfs_5_0lBhh4r_ghxepr0w Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=GUaJZU-r1JDlLAUOsMLl8g Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=LXDZ5r7JrGSXuirwFdbEXw -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
True, and dumb me, that is the other part of the license on our site.Good pointOn 4/7/06, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It isn't as simple as adding a link back. Most people use some version of the non-commercial cc license. If that's the case they shouldn't be allowed to host your stuff at all unless you specifically grant them that license. What you are saying with the NC license is that it is NOT okay to use this for commercial purposes (since VEOH is hosting your content on their commercial site instead of just linking to it, it's a commercial use) without first obtaining permission from the creator. They are not doing this. Providing a link back only fixes the attribution clause. -VerdiOn 4/7/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jarrod at veoh has been in touch with me and I've mentioned how simple it is to adhere to most of these concerns by simply adding a permalink to the site and to the individual clips.I used the aggregators that do get it as examples of how very simple it is to do this. The info is in the feed...they are purposely not mining that information and not using it on their site. On 4/7/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bullshit: they are clearly, blatantly violating licenses by re-encoding and not linking back. All they need to do is attribute, and it'll be mostly ok. Saying: contact us and we'll stop violating your license isn't enough. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com On 4/7/06, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have talked to Dmitry Shapiro, the CEO and he seemed VERY willing to do what it takes to please broadcasters. They are working on some sort of claim your feed campaign as well. If you don't want to claim your feed, and don't want your content available to Veoh users, email them. I would be very suprised if they didn't remove your feed immediately. -Halcyon On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Veoh has my whole feed in their service. They have ripped my videos to their formats and are re-distributing them, using their own permalinks. From their own TOS: As explained above, Veoh does not permit copyright infringing activities on the Veoh Service and reserves the right to terminate access to the Veoh Service, and remove all User Materials posted, by any persons who are found to be repeat infringers (i.e., persons found to have uploaded copyright infringing User Material on more than two occasions). Here's the email I sent them: Dear Veoh, You are infringing on my license terms for Hold My Beer and Watch This! (http://mortaine.blogspot.com). I have a creative commons license on my videoblog. My license terms are derivs-ok, non-commercial, and must-attribute. This means that if you make a derivative work by ripping my videos to your format for re-distribution, it must be for non-commercial purposes. From what I can see, Veoh is a commercial entity. If this is not the case, please send me your 501c status documentation. However, you are still violating the must-attribute portion of my videoblog's license, and that is not acceptable. You are displaying my work on your website without attribution to the creator. Please create a clear, unambiguous link-back to my website. Personally, I would prefer it if you made the permalink space on your site as a permalink to the vlog entries on my blog site. It's not as if you don't have that data available, and doesn't seem like it would be too technically difficult. Failure to comply with my CC license means that you are infringing on my copyright, something that is specifically prohibited in the Veoh Terms of Service. Please let me know how you are rectifying this situation. Sincerely, Stephanie Bryant -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links -- www.SpreadingThePink.com Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlonhttp://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group,
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Most favorite vlogs
Hey Brook,You're actually in today's PAN.URL: http://thepan.org/2006/04/07/thank_justine_bateman_its_friday.html -AQOn 4/7/06, brookhinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE PAN is sublime. I'm a PAN pusher - I've gotten a few of my students addicted (actually I was delighted to find one of my students' videos for the Soft Pink TRuth on it!). I have trouble keeping up so have to binge on back issues some days, but from the start it had so much stuff I already loved (caveh! 50 foot wave! ebn!) PLUS a great overview of vlog work. Just wonderful. brook --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, contactmica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello - I noticed the thread on favorite vlogs going on and I wanted to take a minute to explain a little more about The Public Address Network (aka The PAN) , because it's a really good place to find new stuff to watch. I started it because I wanted to see all of my favorite videos in one place and I wanted to see them develop and bump into each other and pretend that that's what tv actually is.. could be? It's pretty much why I never have time to post here anymore. I am totally obsessed with it, consumed. You may even say in love. Actually, what we are doing is quite simple Adam Quirk ( http://www.bullemhead.com ) and myself have teamed up with some of the most amazing vlogger-artist-filmmakers and friends ( http://www.thepan.org/contributors/ ) to create this daily videopodcast/videoblog. Each day one of us pulls together a 15 min stream of videos from anywhere. Usually highlighting work from videoblogs as well as other video makers who may not have a daily feed of content on their site. We also include all kinds of video oddities and rare finds from the depths of the web. We also make new things, just for The PAN audience! And there is MUCH more to come! So please, stop by, check out some links, leave us a comment or two. feel free to take borrow of our signature promo videos from the library ( http://www.thepan.org/promos/) and do with it what you will. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
Hello,Yeah, I've had that happen with my (text) blogs too. I've had it happen so much that people (in the blogosphere) have quoted me as being a writer for sites that I have absolutely nothing to do with.The thing is, HTML even has standard markup for quoting someone. They could do stuff like... a href="" href="http://changelog.ca/">http://changelog.ca/Charles Iliya Krempeaux/a citea href="" href="http://changelog.ca/log/2005/10/01/goodbye_newspaper"> http://changelog.ca/log/2005/10/01/goodbye_newspaperwrote/a/cite:blockquote type=cite cite="" href="http://changelog.ca/log/2005/10/01/goodbye_newspaper">http://changelog.ca/log/2005/10/01/goodbye_newspaper Every now and then one particular.../blockquoteWhich (assuming you're looking at the HTML version of this e-mail) when rendered looks like: Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: Every now and then one particular...(Note, I didn't actually use the exact same markup I wrote above. I have no idea on how to inject HTML into GMail. But it should look similar to what is above.) It's that simple. (Just use cite with blockquote... and a couple a's.)And if you're doing the feeds, you can use a atom:link with rel=via (and other stuff) to say where it came from too. See yaOn 4/7/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's no different than most aggregators, except for one GLARINGexception...no link back to my vlogsite, or anything that identifiesme or my site (aside from what I may have embedded in the clip...)I'll have to sign up to see the entire clips to make sure they are intact.That's not cool.And unless they've got some fancy way to explainthis.This actually violates my CC license...by attribution (I amsure I am not the only one)On 4/7/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn, my feed is in there as well. On 4/7/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the watch tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be transcoded into flash and hosted there... what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and hosting videos without permission?[...] -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.casupercanadian @ gmail.comdeveloper weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
thanks!and thanks, markus, i agree with you!trineOn 7 Apr 2006, at 18:54, Bill Streeter wrote: You're using Feedburner, so it's easy. Just use Feedburners Title/Description burner option under the optimise tab and add the code to your feed description. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, trine berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this *sounds* really easy, and I'm probably just losing my mind here, but how do i do this? I am using Typepad and I am not sure *how* i am suppose to place this snippet in my vlog? veoh tells me to put it in my feed, which is equally confusing for me. thanks... Trine www.davidandtrine.orgOn 7 Apr 2006, at 18:34, Halcyon Lujah wrote: Here's how you claim your feed on Veoh: 1. Go to the series page for your vlog 2. Select the "Claim Feed" button. 3. You'll be asked to place a snippet of code into your vlog. 4. Once you have done that select the "Verify" button. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Most favorite vlogs
We try to send out an email to every person we feature in The PAN.If you got one, that means you were featured.I believe Mica included one of your Vlog Diva videos a couple weeks back.-AQ On 4/7/06, Monique Danielle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've been to the pan. Once I got an email from you guys saying 'you've been panned'. What does that mean? CheersMonique Daniellehttp://.vlogchallenge.com - This Week's Challenge: Dangerhttp://www.vlogdiva.com - This Weeks Video: Networking Tips SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?
For the record, Mefeedia only downloads the media to make thumbs. The media permalink points to where ever it was when the feed was spidered.On 4/7/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree... why should I be forced to become a member and claim my feed by entering code into my RSS feed. I ALREADY have to do so much to make sure my RSS feed caters to iTunes... I personally prefer sites like MeFeedia who download the original .mov file to their service. When people change my show to Flash, I can't keep track of all those extra downloads in my statistics. Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bullshit: they are clearly, blatantly violating licenses by re-encoding and not linking back. All they need to do is attribute, and it'll be mostly ok. Saying: contact us and we'll stop violating your license isn't enough. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com On 4/7/06, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have talked to Dmitry Shapiro, the CEO and he seemed VERY willing to do what it takes to please broadcasters. They are working on some sort of claim your feed campaign as well. If you don't want to claim your feed, and don't want your content available to Veoh users, email them. I would be very suprised if they didn't remove your feed immediately. -Halcyon On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Veoh has my whole feed in their service. They have ripped my videos to their formats and are re-distributing them, using their own permalinks. From their own TOS: As explained above, Veoh does not permit copyright infringing activities on the Veoh Service and reserves the right to terminate access to the Veoh Service, and remove all User Materials posted, by any persons who are found to be repeat infringers (i.e., persons found to have uploaded copyright infringing User Material on more than two occasions). Here's the email I sent them: Dear Veoh, You are infringing on my license terms for Hold My Beer and Watch This! (http://mortaine.blogspot.com). I have a creative commons license on my videoblog. My license terms are derivs-ok, non-commercial, and must-attribute. This means that if you make a derivative work by ripping my videos to your format for re-distribution, it must be for non-commercial purposes. From what I can see, Veoh is a commercial entity. If this is not the case, please send me your 501c status documentation. However, you are still violating the must-attribute portion of my videoblog's license, and that is not acceptable. You are displaying my work on your website without attribution to the creator. Please create a clear, unambiguous link-back to my website. Personally, I would prefer it if you made the permalink space on your site as a permalink to the vlog entries on my blog site. It's not as if you don't have that data available, and doesn't seem like it would be too technically difficult. Failure to comply with my CC license means that you are infringing on my copyright, something that is specifically prohibited in the Veoh Terms of Service. Please let me know how you are rectifying this situation. Sincerely, Stephanie Bryant -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links -- www.SpreadingThePink.com Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlonhttp://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?
As a suggestion, I reccomend that anyone using FeedBurner for their feeds take advantage of the FeedFlare feature to add a 'View CC license' to each post. You can do it for every post iten on your site (by adding some code to your temaplte, or have it added to your feed (with no extra steps on your part)-DevlonOn 4/7/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the record, Mefeedia only downloads the media to make thumbs. The media permalink points to where ever it was when the feed was spidered. On 4/7/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree... why should I be forced to become a member and claim my feed by entering code into my RSS feed. I ALREADY have to do so much to make sure my RSS feed caters to iTunes... I personally prefer sites like MeFeedia who download the original .mov file to their service. When people change my show to Flash, I can't keep track of all those extra downloads in my statistics. Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bullshit: they are clearly, blatantly violating licenses by re-encoding and not linking back. All they need to do is attribute, and it'll be mostly ok. Saying: contact us and we'll stop violating your license isn't enough. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com On 4/7/06, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have talked to Dmitry Shapiro, the CEO and he seemed VERY willing to do what it takes to please broadcasters. They are working on some sort of claim your feed campaign as well. If you don't want to claim your feed, and don't want your content available to Veoh users, email them. I would be very suprised if they didn't remove your feed immediately. -Halcyon On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Veoh has my whole feed in their service. They have ripped my videos to their formats and are re-distributing them, using their own permalinks. From their own TOS: As explained above, Veoh does not permit copyright infringing activities on the Veoh Service and reserves the right to terminate access to the Veoh Service, and remove all User Materials posted, by any persons who are found to be repeat infringers (i.e., persons found to have uploaded copyright infringing User Material on more than two occasions). Here's the email I sent them: Dear Veoh, You are infringing on my license terms for Hold My Beer and Watch This! (http://mortaine.blogspot.com). I have a creative commons license on my videoblog. My license terms are derivs-ok, non-commercial, and must-attribute. This means that if you make a derivative work by ripping my videos to your format for re-distribution, it must be for non-commercial purposes. From what I can see, Veoh is a commercial entity. If this is not the case, please send me your 501c status documentation. However, you are still violating the must-attribute portion of my videoblog's license, and that is not acceptable. You are displaying my work on your website without attribution to the creator. Please create a clear, unambiguous link-back to my website. Personally, I would prefer it if you made the permalink space on your site as a permalink to the vlog entries on my blog site. It's not as if you don't have that data available, and doesn't seem like it would be too technically difficult. Failure to comply with my CC license means that you are infringing on my copyright, something that is specifically prohibited in the Veoh Terms of Service. Please let me know how you are rectifying this situation. Sincerely, Stephanie Bryant -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links -- www.SpreadingThePink.com Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com -- ~Devlonhttp://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
well, i just did a writeup of the whole thing on loadedpun and sent it off to boingboing as well. hopefully, we'll see some action soon.anneOn 4/7/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You can add your licensing info to your feed. RSS handles this, it's Veoh that isn't playing by the rules.On 4/7/06, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:There should be a specific RSS tag that performs the equivalent of robots.txtin specifying what syndication rights are granted, generally, and specifically? --- WWWhatsup NYChttp://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com --- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKSVisit your group videoblogging on the web.To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --~Devlonhttp://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.comhttp://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.comYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Anne Walkhttp://loadedpun.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
Are you sure about that I think it's more likely some 3rd party submitted the feed. joly At 02:40 PM 4/7/2006, you wrote: Devlon, The big difference here is.. YouTube didn't directly and specifically upload the content -- or create a specific system to scour for and grab that content. From what I can tell, Veoh did just that, no? My users breaking a license and me knowingly doing the same thing... big difference, and not in a positive way. --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
hey mike, can you do something like what people do with image theft instead of totally banning, send them a stock promo for our vlog and for blip.tv? that would surprise them :) (unless they are reading this) mikehudack wrote: This sucks. I'd say more than that, but I don't want to get a reputation for boudmouthing competitors of any sort. I think there are a few things we can do from here. First of all, we can ban Veoh from blip. We would do this to keep them from scraping any more blip RSS feeds (which they're obviously doing) and to keep them from downloading anymore blip-hosted videos. I think we would do this if the community wants us to, but not without some consultation. Do you guys want this? I'm also going to discuss this with blip's lawyers to see if there's anything we can do. If any blip users have had their content stolen by Veoh please drop me a private e-mail (mike AT blip DOT tv) and I'll look into whether we can give you a hand with some legal measures. Yours, Mike Co-founder, blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/7/06, Brad Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon, The big difference here is.. YouTube didn't directly and specifically upload the content -- or create a specific system to scour for and grab that content. From what I can tell, Veoh did just that, no? My users breaking a license and me knowingly doing the same thing... big difference, and not in a positive way. I am sorry, yes. Very good point, thanks. Getting all hopped up over this and not engaging brain before typing :) Devlon wrote: On 4/7/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh. It seems to me that an "infringe first, remove later" policy isn't really a good one. +1. Especially if infringing was so unnecessary. I am actually talking to my laywer about this. Good, like I said, someone needs their hands slapped very publicly to send a message. NBC gets all over YouTube for the same thing. We have the same rights. Peter -- http://mefeedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Brad Webb, Founder/CTO vSocial (http://www.vsocial.com) http://www.vsocial.com%29 51 W. Third Street, #301 Tempe, AZ 85281 (480) 967-9543 - Direct Line (480) 967-9575 - Fax SPONSORED LINKS Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=hfs_5_0lBhh4r_ghxepr0w Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=GUaJZU-r1JDlLAUOsMLl8g Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=LXDZ5r7JrGSXuirwFdbEXw -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group "videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging" on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
Hello,I know many people probably won't like hearing this, butI don't know if it is possible to have people subscribe to your feed and not have other site's aggregate and redistribute your feed without your control. (And let me point out that I am NOT trying to justify any of this. I'm just trying to explain current attitudes with members of Internet society.)To many many many people, if you create an RSS or Atom people, then you are implicitly giving people permission to do all sort of things with it. It's the way things have been for a very very long time. And this permission included aggregating and redistributing. (And I know many people don't like this. But I'm NOT trying to justify this. I'm only trying to explain the attitude of current Internet society.) This is akin to someone creating a website, posting the URL to the website in public places. And then complaining when people bookmark their site. Or post their own URLs to the site.(Again, let me point out that I am NOT trying to justify any of this. I'm just trying to explain current attitudes with Internet society.) Now granted, they should be talking about where the content came from. They can even use standard HTML elements to do this with: cite, blockquote, q, and a. (Or they could use other semantic HTML.) See yaOn 4/7/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Josh.While searching for sites for testinggrounds.loadedpun.com, I've found tons of vlogs listed in a great number of sites. They do, indeed, pick up media feeds and list them. Check out Blinkx, for example. I bet you're in there. It's a very strange feeling to go to a community site and find your listings. These places usually have a way to get out of the listings if you find your stuff, but they have no way to prevent you from getting in there in the first place. On 4/7/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the watch tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be transcoded into flash and hosted there... what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and hosting videos without permission? -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.casupercanadian @ gmail.comdeveloper weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
they are scraping.and maybe veoh staff also manually adding feeds.since vlogdir has been around for a year and the amount of entries by 3rd parties is so miniscule, i dont think that is how these feeds got in veoh. On 4/7/06, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure about thatI think it's more likely some 3rd party submitted the feed.jolyAt 02:40 PM 4/7/2006, you wrote:Devlon,The big difference here is.. YouTube didn't directly and specifically upload the content -- or create a specific system to scour for and grabthat content. From what I can tell, Veoh did just that, no? My usersbreaking a license and me knowingly doing the same thing... big difference, and not in a positive way.--- WWWhatsup NYChttp://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com---Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] If your content is on Veoh** was: Veoh transcoding feeds?
opt-in CAN have these checks and balances though.i've waited to see if an open submission system would be problematic, and if so, a simple trigger would force a typical member activation process. but no need yet. On 4/7/06, Brad Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even an opt-in system has no real checks and balances for ensuring theowner of the feed is signing it up... this is why I never implementedthis functionality. It just seemed like a bad idea waiting to happen. Michael Verdi wrote: Benefits of the system (hosting, rss, flash, etc) aside, this is the part that is total crap. It should be an opt-in system not an opt-out. That's inexcusable. -Verdi On 4/7/06, * Halcyon Lujah* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE EXCLUDED from their search and system, just send them an email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. They are aware that not everyone wants to be included and will remove you immediately. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=hfs_5_0lBhh4r_ghxepr0w Individual http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=GUaJZU-r1JDlLAUOsMLl8g Use http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=LXDZ5r7JrGSXuirwFdbEXw YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS *Visit your group videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. *To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Unsubscribe *Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. --Brad Webb, Founder/CTOvSocial ( http://www.vsocial.com)51 W. Third Street, #301Tempe, AZ 85281(480) 967-9543 - Direct Line(480) 967-9575 - FaxYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Most favorite vlogs
Yikes! I'm honored! brook brook hinton www.brookhinton.com brookhinton.typepad.com/tracegarden On Apr 7, 2006, at 11:50 AM, Adam Quirk wrote: Hey Brook, You're actually in today's PAN. URL: http://thepan.org/2006/04/07/thank_justine_bateman_its_friday.html -AQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?
Hello,I think part of the problem is that there is no automated way for machines/software to understand licenses. RSS, Atom, HTML, and HTTP makes no requirement for machines/software to obey licenses. Many people argue that by making your data available in these formats and protocols that you are implicitly giving people permission to do all sorts of things. (And if you don't want people to do these things, then you should be using the HTTP authentication -- usernames and passwords -- that the HTTP protocol provides.) I think if something like this is wanted, it would have to codified in the Feed. Probably those who want license restrictions would do this by stopping use of the RSS enclosure and make up and use a replacement for this that would bind license instructions in it. (This probably isn't what people want to hear though.)See yaOn 4/7/06, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed this during SXSW and mentioned it to Halcyon. I haven't had time to follow up with them though. I think it's pretty bogus and violates peoples licenses.-Verdi On 4/7/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Josh.While searching for sites for testinggrounds.loadedpun.com, I've found tons of vlogs listed in a great number of sites. They do, indeed, pick up media feeds and list them. Check out Blinkx, for example. I bet you're in there. It's a very strange feeling to go to a community site and find your listings. These places usually have a way to get out of the listings if you find your stuff, but they have no way to prevent you from getting in there in the first place. On 4/7/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the watch tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be transcoded into flash and hosted there... what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and hosting videos without permission?[...] -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
