RE: Using Siri to call phone numbers with extensions.

2013-10-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Liz,

If this is somebody in your contacts you can add a comma , after the
number and then put the numbers for the extension. If you dial that contact
a pause is inserted after dialing the number and then the extension is
dialed, if you need a longer pause you can insert 2 commas.

Otherwise the way to dial an extension is to just practice and dial it on
the keypad as you would on a normal phone.
I find it helps to use touch typing and it probably does work better with a
headset because it's easier to hear what you are dialing as well as any
prompts from the system. 
As I said, this should be something most people can get better at with
practice, I say most because I do understand that possibly somebody with
motor/coordination problems could have a problem that is not solved by
practice.

If orientation is your issue you might want to consider a tactile screen
protector which gives you a dot where the 5 is on the keypad.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Liz and Sammie
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using Siri to call phone numbers with extensions.

I am wondering if Siri can dial a phone number such as a number to a company
plus an extension to a particular person that I need to talk to in the
company?  I find that when using my Iphone if I need to dial an extension
that sometimes I'm not fast enough, and it does not work.  If Siri can't do
this, what is the correct way to dial an extension with the Iphone?

Liz Ulrich and Leader dog Sammie

Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1


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More than one device?

2013-10-18 Thread Tom Cramer
Hi,

 

I just got an IPad, but I want to know the following.

Can I have the same apps on my IPad as on my IPhone, and will they work the
same?

Also, will the settings be the same, or will I have to do settings on each
device.  I mean, if I download OOTunes or Tunein radio, will I be able to
get the same stations listed in my recents or favorites or will I need to do
that separately on the IPad?

Finally, what about the music I have on my Iphone? 

I have absolutely no idea how to go about getting it to the Ipad.  Please
help!

 

Thanks

Tom

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Re: More than one device?

2013-10-18 Thread RobH.
Most of this will be covered by an iCloud backup from the first and restore 
to the second.  That should include data for the apps if turned on, so yes 
to their settings too.  I don't know about music, that is more an iTunes 
thing, and that would preclude iCloud.
Apps might have iPad specific code so would change when it discovered what 
it was running on, but no reason not to work. There's an option to make 
small screen apps to fill the larger iPad screen.

In short, I never found an issue when i had both.

Rh.
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From: Tom Cramer tom.cram...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 7:15 AM
Subject: More than one device?


Hi,



I just got an IPad, but I want to know the following.

Can I have the same apps on my IPad as on my IPhone, and will they work the
same?

Also, will the settings be the same, or will I have to do settings on each
device.  I mean, if I download OOTunes or Tunein radio, will I be able to
get the same stations listed in my recents or favorites or will I need to do
that separately on the IPad?

Finally, what about the music I have on my Iphone?

I have absolutely no idea how to go about getting it to the Ipad.  Please
help!



Thanks

Tom

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Re: Mail Folders

2013-10-18 Thread RobH.
That is either done under the Accounts section, or you do it on the mail 
host server.

Rh.
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Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:56 PM
Subject: Mail Folders


Using the IPhone e-mail program is there a way to create new folders?

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opening app switcher

2013-10-18 Thread Pinky
Hi 

 

I know a person can push the home button twice to bring up the app switcher.
Is there another way to bring up the app switcher.  I thought a person could
use a three finger swipe up but I have only been able to make that work
once.  Am I doing something wrong?

 

Ed.

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Re: New iPhone 5s.

2013-10-18 Thread Pablo Morales

Hi Sieghard.
Just a question about the steps that you say in this email. It is about the 
finger print. Is a way to repeat the finger print setup?
for example, I  like to work with tools, and some times my finger prints get 
in my index finger, very difficult to be read. You know. I think that I will 
need to use another finger, maybe the little finger. How can I repeat the 
setup of the finger print? when I go to settings/general/passcode and finger 
print, the finger print just says deep button, and is not way to activate 
this feature, or to change the position of the button, saying, finger print 
deep button.

I am lost.
Thanks
Pablo


- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: New iPhone 5s.



Hi Pablo,

Maybe Ed somehow overlooked the line that your 5S is coming anyways, 
anyhow,

I think I understand what you need to do.
You are getting the 5S as your personal phone and want to get rid of your
iPhone 4 and transfer all content to your new 5S, right?

Just to get this out of the way: when you receive your 5S, make sure the
first thing you do after turning it on is to press the home key 3 times.
This will start Voiceover. I actually recommend you do all the stuff below
first as far as backing up your iPhone 4, then when you are ready to set 
up

your iPhone 5S, just connect it to your computer and iTunes. Don't touch
anything, just take it out of the box, take off the plastic front and back
protectors and plug in the Lightning cable, then wait. Plugging it in will
turn it on and there will be a double vibrate once it's booted up. Wait
another 10 or so seconds after that to make sure it's ready, then press 
the

home key 3 times and Voiceover will come on. You then have to choose your
language, your country, join your WiFi, enter your Apple Id, opt into
iMessage, Facetime and iCloud, turn on Find my iPhone, set up Touch ID 
etc.

This might be in slightly different order, but it's close. When you set up
Touch ID make sure you put just one finger on the home button and do it as
many times as it asks for it. Do it by slightly rotating your finger and 
by

putting different parts on it, just the tip, the sides, a bit further back
etc. Once it took about 10 or 12 readings it should tell you that it's 
ready

and later on you can go to Settings, General, Passcode and Fingerprint and
set up more fingers. You will also have to choose a 4-digit passcode and
remember that if you ever turn off your phone or reboot it, you will have 
to

enter your passcode the first time, only after that will Touch ID work to
unlock your phone.
It is also quite likely that after the setup process finishes you will be
told that there is an iOS update since my phone had only iOS 7.0 on it and
before I did anything else I installed the iOS 7.02 update.
I also believe that the high quality voice does not download 
automatically.
Maybe it would have in time, but I went to Settings, General, 
Accessibility,

Voiceover, Languages and Dialects and then double tapped on US English and
then I could turn on to use the enhanced voice, it started downloading as
soon as I turned it on.
I also turned on Reduced Motion in the main Accessibility settings.

OK, so, here is what you do with your iPhone 4:

First, make a backup of your iPhone 4, you can back it up to iCloud or to
your iTunes, I suggest you do both. I would also take this as an 
opportunity
and go over all the apps and if there are any you don't use or rarely use 
I

would delete them from your phone, they are not lost to you and if you
decide you want them back on your 5S later you can always redownload them.
I actually prefer to back up to iCloud but also to do a manual backup to
iTunes and I always choose the option to do an encrypted backup which 
backs
up certain passwords as well and it's a better option if you do a backup 
to

iTunes anyways.
Under the Summary tab once your phone is connected you have to tab a lot 
of

times, maybe 30 times, to get to it. It's a checkbox and as soon as you
check it you are asked to select a password. You can choose a relatively
simple password here, it's only on your computer and not that critical, 
just

make sure after you enter it the first time to tab once and re-enter it to
confirm, then tab to OK and press it. You should hear Jaws announce a
percentage as your backup is going on.

OK, now once you backed up your phone you have taken care of your phone's
settings, home screen layout, any text messages and so on will be restored
etc.

I don't know how you store and sync your email and contacts so here you
probably have to figure out yourself how you get those back.
I personally use Office 365 for my business which is full hosted exchange
and I use Outlook.com (used to be Hotmail/Windows Live) for my personal
email and contacts.
Both of these services store email, contacts and calendar info in the 
cloud
and the Office 365 

Re: opening app switcher

2013-10-18 Thread Chris H

That's only to close an app.

E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 18/10/2013 07:41, Pinky wrote:

Hi



I know a person can push the home button twice to bring up the app switcher.
Is there another way to bring up the app switcher.  I thought a person could
use a three finger swipe up but I have only been able to make that work
once.  Am I doing something wrong?



Ed.



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finger print, how it works?

2013-10-18 Thread Pablo Morales
Hi all.
I have my iPhone 5s, and I see a big difference between the 5, and 5s, but a 
huge difference with my old iPhone 4. One of these differences is the finger 
print. I did what Sieghard told me in his email, but to use this feature, I 
understood that with the finger print, I would be able to unlock the screen, or 
approve  purchases, and that kind of things. But it is something that I  don't 
know how do it. I know that the home button is the reader of the finger print, 
but how I tell my phone that I want to use my finger print to unlock the 
screen, or to pay something in the appstore?
Thanks in advance.
P

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Curious bug in Youplayer

2013-10-18 Thread Anne Günther

Hi
When using Youplayer I can stop a playing video but can't restart it 
that way. It's not really a problem since I can restart the video with 
the play-pause button just fine. But somewhat strange.

Is this just happening on my phone, or actually a bug?
Guenni

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Mathematics, iPhone 5s of 64GB.

2013-10-18 Thread Pablo Morales
Hi all.
Well, I have done the restore in my iPhone 5s, of the data stored in my iPhone 
4. I did the backup of my old iPhone 4, of 16GB, and in my old iPhone 4, I had 
only 1.1 GB free. The mathematics says that 16GB minus 1.1 GB is 14.9GB of 
space full in my iPhone 4. It include music, apps,and IOs 7.x. It is that says 
settings in my old iPhone 4. Now, when I connect my new iPhone 5s, that I will 
call new phone, I am tired typing. It says free memory 44GB, and capacity 
56.7GB. I thought that my iPhone has 64GB. Ok, the IOS fill some memory space, 
but almost 10GB?
Because my iPhone 5s says space free 42.3GB, and capacity 56.7GB, the 
mathematics are not right here.
Why it says capacity 56.7GB, almost 10GB less than the memory that I paid?
Why it says memory free 42.3GB almost 20GB less when my iPhone 4  has 16GB and 
1.1GB free?
Math is not right here.
I am talking about the 11.4% of the memory that the IOs is filling?
the math are not right here.
P

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RE: New iPhone 5s.

2013-10-18 Thread Ed Barnes
Hi Pablo, thanks for the clarification on what you are trying to do.
When I read message 1 which you sent to the list I was unsure if you were
trying to copy everything from your old iPhone 4 unto your 5 or and keep the
things that are already on the 5 as well, or if you were trying to simply
copy everything on your iPhone 5 to a new 5S.
I just read the messages which came into my inbox bbetween yesterday morning
and now as I only read this list about once a day, and having read those
messages thing are now much clearer to me.
Further, Sieghard has already answered your query so I won't re-write most
of the things he has already stated.
Lastly, I did not mean any offense when I stated that I did not understand
your first message, infact, if I wrote something that was not clear I would
hope you would tell me if my message did not make any sense too. :)
I suppose anyone who knows me well personally for a long time can tell you
that I'm pretty blunt, this is true when I write emails as well, good luck
with your new phone.
Ed


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone 5s.

Good morning ED.
Yes, english is not my main language, but let me clarify this; 1. What does
Even though mean for you?
When I say that I cancelled my order, even though USPS sent me a
notification that my iPhone 5s will arrive today, what does that mean for
you?
In spanish, that means that when I did something to stop the process buying
a iPhone 5s, t-mobile sent the iPhone 5s anyway.
2. Later I say that I want to transfer my contacts, email account from my
old iPhone 4, to the new one, it means the iPhone 5s that is arriving today.
Why you understand that I want to merge both iDevices personal and business
together?
Yes, I  know that english is not my main language, and I am so thankful with
your concern about my english. Even though, I do not see that my email
doesn't make sense.
I hope that my responses are clear for you.
P

On 10/17/13, Ed Barnes edbarn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good morning Pablo, I realize that english may not be your first 
 language, your message does not make any sense, at the top of your 
 message you indicate that you have cancelled your order for an iPhone 
 5S, however; at the bottom you indicate that you want to transfer all 
 content from your iPhone 4 to an iPhone 5S

 Next question, are you keeping your iPhone 5 as the business phone and 
 the new iPhone 5S will be your personal iPhone or are you trying to 
 integrate all the stuff unto one phone.

 Hope these questions help us get to the bottom of your query.

 Ed





 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Pablo Morales
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 7:18 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: New iPhone 5s.



 Hi all.

 Well, a few days, this last Thursday, I cancelled my order with 
 t-mobile for an iPhone 5s that I bought with them, because the delay 
 for the delivery.
 Even though, yesterday, I received a notification from USPS saying 
 that my iPhone 5s comes today. It is crazy.

 Well, the point is this. I have 2 iPhones, one for personal 
 things,iPhone 4, and other for business iPhone 5. Both has different 
 content and different apple account.

 Now, I don't know, what I have to do to replace the functionality of 
 my older iPhone 4. I mean,I want to give my iPhone 4 to my friend, and 
 transfer the apple account to my new iPhone 5s, contacts, business 
 email account, bookmarks, personal email account, personal phone book, 
 and apps.

 What I have to do, to transfer the whole content of my older iPhone 4, 
 to a new iPhone 5s?

 Thanks in advance.

 Pablo



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Re: iOS 7.02 and iPhone 4

2013-10-18 Thread Nadia Mattiazzo
Thanks Ron and eveyrone else who has commented on this thread, I am really 
appreciating all advice.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ron Pelletier 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:20 PM
  Subject: RE: iOS 7.02 and iPhone 4


  Hi Nadia,

   

  I had an iPhone 4 and I upgraded to IOS 7 about 4 or 5 days after it came 
out.  It worked well.  A little slower is what I expected and that's what I got 
but, all in all it was very workable.  That's not even the reason why I 
upgraded to the 5S.  I really wanted SIRI and I did like the idea of finger 
print security.  Having said that, if it hadn't been for wanting SIRI, I 
probably would have stayed with my iPhone 4.

   

  Now that you have waited this long, I would wait for the first major release 
which should be very soon if we go by past performance at Apple.  Every time we 
go through a major upgrade, there are risks of problems so I would wait because 
its not far away and why do it twice at this point.

   

  Ron  Danvers

 

   

  Falling down is part of LIFE...

  Getting back up is LIVING...

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nadia Mattiazzo
  Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:32 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: ios 7.02 and iphone 4

   

  Hi everyone

   

  I'm sorry if this has already been covered to death but I can't seem to find 
an answer anywhere.

   

  I have an iphone 4 and am still using ios 6.  I am considering installing the 
new ios 7.02 but am wondering whether I should wait or whether it's just going 
to get more difficult with us who are using older iphones?

   

  Any advice would be appreciated.

   

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can't receive mail

2013-10-18 Thread thomas williams
Hello to the list, I hope this is not off topic, This is something that
started about a month ago, when I try to get email from my computer I get a
message that the server rejected my password but I can send mail from this
account also I I can receive and send mail from my IPhone. I am using
Microsoft outlook 2010, hope someone can help. Contact information is
336-549-4728

 

Hello to the list, I hope this is not off topic, This is something that
started about a month ago, when I try to get email from my computer I get a
message that the server rejected my password but I can send mail from this
account also I  can receive and send mail from my IPhone. I am using
Microsoft outlook 2010, hope someone can help. Contact information is
336-549-4728

 

 

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Changing credit card in ITunes

2013-10-18 Thread Cliff Self
Is there a way, using my phone, that I can change the card number on my ITunes 
account?

Thanks,

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Re: Changing credit card in ITunes

2013-10-18 Thread Chris H
Open iTunes Store double tap on your Apple Id and choose view Apple Id 
then double tap the edit link next to payment information.


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On 18/10/2013 11:15, Cliff Self wrote:

Is there a way, using my phone, that I can change the card number on my ITunes 
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Re: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone

2013-10-18 Thread Kliphton -------
I use the logitech easy switch 811 keyboard.  It is about the same size as the 
apple bt keyboard, but instead of the keys being flat, they are rounded to fit 
your fingers.  Its a little more expensive then the amazon basic keyboard, but 
you can also connect it to 3 devices at the same time.  There is a on off 
switch, and it is easy to pair.  HTH 

Kliphton-SR
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Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2013, at 8:48 PM, Terrie Terlau terrie...@twc.com wrote:

Hello all,
I am looking for a blue tooth keyboard to use for notetaking with the iPhone 5. 
I want something with keys that feel like a regular keyboard, not tiny keys 
that are on many small keyboards. Is there anything good other than the Apple 
keyboard that has the feel of a standard keyboard? Also, do I need all the 
Apple keys (option, FN, etc.) in order to take notes on the iPhone? Is there a 
Windows blue tooth keyboard that works just as well?
Thanks for your thoughts. I am asking because I spent a miserable day taking 
notes on a braille display with the iPhone, dealing with its braille quirks.
BEst,
Terrie Terlau
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Re: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone

2013-10-18 Thread Carol Forrester
I have the logiteck which works with three devices using the f keys, there is a 
windows one, and a mac one, the mac is about 86 pounds and the windows is about 
83 pounds, Carol
On 18 Oct 2013, at 04:11, Larry Lumpkin llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:

 I believe there’s a podcast about it on applevis.
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Terrie Terlau
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:06 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone
  
 Larry,
 Thanks. I just looked it up on Amazon and it looks good!
 I'm going to give it a whirl.
 Terrie
  
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 Larry Lumpkin
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:00 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone
  
 I find the keybpoard very comfortable.  The key arrangement and size is about 
 normal for a normal keyboard.  It is made for apple devices.
  
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 Terrie Terlau
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:26 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone
  
 Larry,
 Thanks for your recommendation.
 Can you tell me if the keys are small and close together, making it a lot 
 smaller than a keyboard without the numpad and six pack, or if the keys are 
 about average sized and the keyboard is not tiny?
 I am not saying this very well -- I want it to be easy to use, so not really 
 small,.
 Thanks!
 Terrie
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Re: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone

2013-10-18 Thread Carol Forrester
that is the one, it is the best thing i have had, Carol
On 18 Oct 2013, at 12:29, Kliphton --- kliphton@outlook.com wrote:

 I use the logitech easy switch 811 keyboard.  It is about the same size as 
 the apple bt keyboard, but instead of the keys being flat, they are rounded 
 to fit your fingers.  Its a little more expensive then the amazon basic 
 keyboard, but you can also connect it to 3 devices at the same time.  There 
 is a on off switch, and it is easy to pair.  HTH 
 
 Kliphton-SR
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 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 17, 2013, at 8:48 PM, Terrie Terlau terrie...@twc.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I am looking for a blue tooth keyboard to use for notetaking with the iPhone 
 5. I want something with keys that feel like a regular keyboard, not tiny 
 keys that are on many small keyboards. Is there anything good other than the 
 Apple keyboard that has the feel of a standard keyboard? Also, do I need all 
 the Apple keys (option, FN, etc.) in order to take notes on the iPhone? Is 
 there a Windows blue tooth keyboard that works just as well?
 Thanks for your thoughts. I am asking because I spent a miserable day taking 
 notes on a braille display with the iPhone, dealing with its braille quirks.
 BEst,
 Terrie Terlau
 
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Re: Mathematics, iPhone 5s of 64GB.

2013-10-18 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Pablo,

Here is an explanation from Wikipedia of what you're seeing.

Cheers,

Anne

Since the early 2000s most consumer hard drive  capacities are grouped in 
certain size classes measured in gigabytes. The exact capacity of a given drive 
is usually some number above or below the class designation. Although most 
manufacturers of hard disk drives and flash-memory disk devices define 1 
gigabyte as  1 000 000 000 bytes , software like  Microsoft Windows  reports 
size in gigabytes by dividing the total capacity in bytes by  1 073 741 824  (2 
30  = 1 gibibyte ), while still reporting the result with the symbol GB. This 
practice causes confusion, as a hard disk with an advertised capacity of, for 
example,  400 GB  (meaning  400 000 000 000 bytes ) might be reported by the 
operating system as only  372 GB  (meaning 372 GiB). Other software, like Mac 
OS X 10.6 and some components of the Linux  kernel measure using the decimal 
units. The JEDEC memory standards  uses the IEEE 100 nomenclatures which 
defines a gigabyte as  1 073 741 824 bytes  (or 2 30  bytes).
The difference between units based on decimal and binary prefixes increases as 
a semi-logarithmic  (linear-log) function—for example, the decimal kilobyte 
value is nearly 98% of the kibibyte, a megabyte  is under 96% of a mebibyte, 
and a gigabyte is just over 93% of a gibibyte value. This means that a 300 GB 
(279 GiB) hard disk might be indicated variously as 300 GB, 279 GB or 279 GiB, 
depending on the operating system. As storage sizes increase and larger units 
are used, these difference become even more pronounced. Some legal challenges 
have been waged over this confusion such as a suit against Western Digital 
Western Digital settled the challenge and added explicit disclaimers to 
products that the usable capacity may differ from the advertised capacity.

On 18 Oct 2013, at 11:12, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all.
 Well, I have done the restore in my iPhone 5s, of the data stored in my 
 iPhone 4. I did the backup of my old iPhone 4, of 16GB, and in my old iPhone 
 4, I had only 1.1 GB free. The mathematics says that 16GB minus 1.1 GB is 
 14.9GB of space full in my iPhone 4. It include music, apps,and IOs 7.x. It 
 is that says settings in my old iPhone 4. Now, when I connect my new iPhone 
 5s, that I will call new phone, I am tired typing. It says free memory 44GB, 
 and capacity 56.7GB. I thought that my iPhone has 64GB. Ok, the IOS fill some 
 memory space, but almost 10GB?
 Because my iPhone 5s says space free 42.3GB, and capacity 56.7GB, the 
 mathematics are not right here.
 Why it says capacity 56.7GB, almost 10GB less than the memory that I paid?
 Why it says memory free 42.3GB almost 20GB less when my iPhone 4  has 16GB 
 and 1.1GB free?
 Math is not right here.
 I am talking about the 11.4% of the memory that the IOs is filling?
 the math are not right here.
 P
  

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Phone freezing under iOS 7, any ideas?

2013-10-18 Thread Chris H

Good afternoon all.
Somebody on this list I think shared a problem whereby there phone froze 
but could still use Siri and VoiceOver while Siri was active.
If anyone had a solution, please can you share this with us? Asking as 
maybe have missed it. List member Miss Day is having this right now on 
the 4s running iOS 7. She's managed to power off the phone but has a 
horrible feeling it now won't power back on. But maybe it's her lack of 
patience as she's not very good at that at times.

Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: Phone freezing under iOS 7, any ideas?

2013-10-18 Thread Becky
Hi all
I have a couple of questions. I get all of these emails is there a way to 
create folders and how do to

Sent from my iPhone

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 wrote:emails from the phone ?
Thanks 
Becky
 
 Good afternoon all.
 Somebody on this list I think shared a problem whereby there phone froze but 
 could still use Siri and VoiceOver while Siri was active.
 If anyone had a solution, please can you share this with us? Asking as maybe 
 have missed it. List member Miss Day is having this right now on the 4s 
 running iOS 7. She's managed to power off the phone but has a horrible 
 feeling it now won't power back on. But maybe it's her lack of patience as 
 she's not very good at that at times.
 Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

2013-10-18 Thread alia robinson
I had no problem yesterday. I downloaded one via phone, and transferred three 
via itunes. 

Alia
On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I tried downloading a couple of books from bard today, but they're still not 
 authorizing, no matter what I do. I figured since the government was back up, 
 maybe it would be fixed. Is anyone still having this problem?
 Thanks,

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Re: finger print, how it works?

2013-10-18 Thread Alex Hall
To unlock your phone with your fingerprint, just press your finger to the home 
button. The phone will see it and unlock if it recognizes you. Note that three 
failed unlock attempts will result in a prompt for your passcode, which is why 
you need to set one before you can use the fingerprint reader. Not unlocking 
your phone in forty-eight hours will do the same thing. To authenticate a 
purchase, press your finger to the reader when you are prompted for a password 
in the App store. This process is not yet perfect, and you do sometimes still 
need to enter your password.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2013, at 4:26, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 I have my iPhone 5s, and I see a big difference between the 5, and 5s, but a 
 huge difference with my old iPhone 4. One of these differences is the finger 
 print. I did what Sieghard told me in his email, but to use this feature, I 
 understood that with the finger print, I would be able to unlock the screen, 
 or approve  purchases, and that kind of things. But it is something that I  
 don't know how do it. I know that the home button is the reader of the finger 
 print, but how I tell my phone that I want to use my finger print to unlock 
 the screen, or to pay something in the appstore?
 Thanks in advance.
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Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

2013-10-18 Thread Wayne Merritt
Even though the government is back up and running, it may take them a
while to get everything going smooth on the site and with the app. I
submitted a problem report but have not received any acknowledgement
of my message. Guess they have some catching up to do. If you are
still getting the authorization trouble in a few days, email their
main address:
nlsb...@loc.gov
I think the BARD Mobile support address is:
nlsbardmob...@loc.gov
but am not sure of that. I have never had any authorization issues
when downloading books directly to my iPhone.

Regards,
Wayne

On 10/18/13, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had no problem yesterday. I downloaded one via phone, and transferred
 three via itunes.

 Alia
 On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I tried downloading a couple of books from bard today, but they're still
 not authorizing, no matter what I do. I figured since the government was
 back up, maybe it would be fixed. Is anyone still having this problem?
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Re: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone

2013-10-18 Thread Lelia
Cliff, where did you get this keyboard? Also, is it as small as they speed dots 
keyboard? Thank you
Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2013, at 5:29 AM, Kliphton --- kliphton@outlook.com 
 wrote:
 
 I use the logitech easy switch 811 keyboard.  It is about the same size as 
 the apple bt keyboard, but instead of the keys being flat, they are rounded 
 to fit your fingers.  Its a little more expensive then the amazon basic 
 keyboard, but you can also connect it to 3 devices at the same time.  There 
 is a on off switch, and it is easy to pair.  HTH 
 
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 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 17, 2013, at 8:48 PM, Terrie Terlau terrie...@twc.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I am looking for a blue tooth keyboard to use for notetaking with the iPhone 
 5. I want something with keys that feel like a regular keyboard, not tiny 
 keys that are on many small keyboards. Is there anything good other than the 
 Apple keyboard that has the feel of a standard keyboard? Also, do I need all 
 the Apple keys (option, FN, etc.) in order to take notes on the iPhone? Is 
 there a Windows blue tooth keyboard that works just as well?
 Thanks for your thoughts. I am asking because I spent a miserable day taking 
 notes on a braille display with the iPhone, dealing with its braille quirks.
 BEst,
 Terrie Terlau
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Re: Phone freezing under iOS 7, any ideas?

2013-10-18 Thread isaac

You have to go to the back button then go to edit then add mail box

-Original Message- 
From: Becky

Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 7:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone freezing under iOS 7, any ideas?

Hi all
I have a couple of questions. I get all of these emails is there a way to 
create folders and how do to


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2013, at 5:51 AM, Chris H u delet the 
christopher...@gmail.com wrote:emails from the phone ?

Thanks
Becky


Good afternoon all.
Somebody on this list I think shared a problem whereby there phone froze 
but could still use Siri and VoiceOver while Siri was active.
If anyone had a solution, please can you share this with us? Asking as 
maybe have missed it. List member Miss Day is having this right now on the 
4s running iOS 7. She's managed to power off the phone but has a horrible 
feeling it now won't power back on. But maybe it's her lack of patience as 
she's not very good at that at times.

Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone

2013-10-18 Thread Kliphton -------
I got mine from amazon, since I am a prime member, it was shipped to me in one 
day.  But logitech also sells it, and no, it is not as small as the speed dots 
keyboard, its the same size as the apple bt keyboard.  HTH


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Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Lelia leliastr...@samobile.net wrote:

Cliff, where did you get this keyboard? Also, is it as small as they speed dots 
keyboard? Thank you
Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2013, at 5:29 AM, Kliphton --- kliphton@outlook.com 
 wrote:
 
 I use the logitech easy switch 811 keyboard.  It is about the same size as 
 the apple bt keyboard, but instead of the keys being flat, they are rounded 
 to fit your fingers.  Its a little more expensive then the amazon basic 
 keyboard, but you can also connect it to 3 devices at the same time.  There 
 is a on off switch, and it is easy to pair.  HTH 
 
 Kliphton-SR
 ~iMessage~ kliph...@icloud.com - ~e-mail kliphton@outlook.com
 (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquareSkype) kliphton72
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 17, 2013, at 8:48 PM, Terrie Terlau terrie...@twc.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I am looking for a blue tooth keyboard to use for notetaking with the iPhone 
 5. I want something with keys that feel like a regular keyboard, not tiny 
 keys that are on many small keyboards. Is there anything good other than the 
 Apple keyboard that has the feel of a standard keyboard? Also, do I need all 
 the Apple keys (option, FN, etc.) in order to take notes on the iPhone? Is 
 there a Windows blue tooth keyboard that works just as well?
 Thanks for your thoughts. I am asking because I spent a miserable day taking 
 notes on a braille display with the iPhone, dealing with its braille quirks.
 BEst,
 Terrie Terlau
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Series silences!

2013-10-18 Thread Robin Christopherson
Carol
Whenever Siri doesn’t answer straight away I’ve learned not to wait and I know 
that, if he (in the UK Siri’s a he) doesn’t respond instantly then nine times 
out of ten he won’t respond at all. So I don’t waste time and I just reissue 
the command and chances are he’ll come right back. I literally wait no more 
than two seconds before reissuing.
I’m not sure why it’s an all or nothing thing like this but I have found it a 
really useful strategy as I used to slavishly wait for a response and, as I 
say, nine times out of ten was disappointed because you’d wait ten or fifteen 
seconds only for him to apologise profusely about being unavailable.
Thanks, Robin.

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iPhone 5S improved battery life

2013-10-18 Thread Robin Christopherson
Dear listers
I recently got a 5S and am getting 2 days out of each charge which is amazing 
compared to my 4S. Of course after two years the battery may have lost a lot of 
capacity but I just wanted to sound others out about their battery performance. 
I’m listening to a lot of audio on and off as well as light usage of other 
apps, email and the phone etc. Also lots of Siri.
Thanks, Robin.

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Re: More than one device?

2013-10-18 Thread Regina Alvarado
Same basic question, but when I got my iPad I downloaded apps from the store 
under purchased. Did not understand I would have to restore. This was a few 
weeks ago when everything was 7.0. My phone remains with everything the way I 
want it. Question: is there now any way to re-sync my iPad to iPhone moving all 
apps and settings over or am I stuck doing all by hand? Same question for an 
upgraded phone. I have a few items I absolutely want to transfer both to my 
iPad and eventually a new phone. Please if describing, go step-by-step. I do 
not want to guess on this. I will do all by hand, but it would be much easier 
for me if it could just sync exactly like the phone, of course understanding 
the iPad is different in some ways! Thank you in advance. Perhaps I got just a 
bit ahead of myself and should have waited until the fire of 7.02 died down 
before I tried to be a techie! :) 


reggie and Allegra

On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:29 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

Most of this will be covered by an iCloud backup from the first and restore 
to the second.  That should include data for the apps if turned on, so yes 
to their settings too.  I don't know about music, that is more an iTunes 
thing, and that would preclude iCloud.
Apps might have iPad specific code so would change when it discovered what 
it was running on, but no reason not to work. There's an option to make 
small screen apps to fill the larger iPad screen.

In short, I never found an issue when i had both.

Rh.
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From: Tom Cramer tom.cram...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 7:15 AM
Subject: More than one device?


Hi,



I just got an IPad, but I want to know the following.

Can I have the same apps on my IPad as on my IPhone, and will they work the
same?

Also, will the settings be the same, or will I have to do settings on each
device.  I mean, if I download OOTunes or Tunein radio, will I be able to
get the same stations listed in my recents or favorites or will I need to do
that separately on the IPad?

Finally, what about the music I have on my Iphone?

I have absolutely no idea how to go about getting it to the Ipad.  Please
help!



Thanks

Tom

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Re: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone

2013-10-18 Thread Alan Paganelli
I like the Amazon Basics Bluetooth Keyboard.  It's roughly 10 inches from left 
to right, 5 inches from top to bottom and less then an inch at it's thickest.  
It runs on 2 triple A. Batteries.  My batteries have been in there sense last 
March and still going strong.  I got mine for 26 bucks USD when Amazon put it 
on special.  I also got the case for it which is canvus and fleace lined.  The 
keyboard even in it's case sold seperately will fit easily in a backpack.  It 
has 5 rubber feet which keeps the keyboard from sliding around on a table or 
desktop.  There are the usual markings on the F and J keys which makes 
orentation easy.

I use mine mostly for email and once in a wile for texting back and fourth with 
my brother in Chicago wile I live in Las Vegas and we're watching a Chicago 
Bears game together.  It's like being at home again when we both were many 
years younger.  It never started out that way but we seem to have found a new 
use for texting.

There are instructions giving all the keyboard shortcuts as well so if you do 
get a bluetooth keyboard, just ask and somebody can email them to you.

Hope this helps
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Alan

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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Terrie Terlau 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:48 PM
  Subject: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone


  Hello all,

  I am looking for a blue tooth keyboard to use for notetaking with the iPhone 
5. I want something with keys that feel like a regular keyboard, not tiny keys 
that are on many small keyboards. Is there anything good other than the Apple 
keyboard that has the feel of a standard keyboard? Also, do I need all the 
Apple keys (option, FN, etc.) in order to take notes on the iPhone? Is there a 
Windows blue tooth keyboard that works just as well?

  Thanks for your thoughts. I am asking because I spent a miserable day taking 
notes on a braille display with the iPhone, dealing with its braille quirks.

  BEst,

  Terrie Terlau


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Re: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone

2013-10-18 Thread Alan Paganelli
The keys on the Amazon Basics Bluetooth Keyboard are about what you would find 
on a good netbook.  If you are a touch typist, you'll love this keyboard.  The 
keys aren't the wishie-washy kind of keys you find on some portable keyboards.  
These feel proper and the 5 rubber feet on the bottom keeps the keyboard in 
place on a flat surface so if you do type fast, you won't have to worry about 
chasing it all over the table top.

When I'm traveling in our motor home, I can sling this keyboard across my lap 
and type away.  Once I've typed my reply or started my message all I have to do 
is to send it and move on to the next message.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Terrie Terlau 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 7:25 PM
  Subject: RE: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone


  Larry,

  Thanks for your recommendation.

  Can you tell me if the keys are small and close together, making it a lot 
smaller than a keyboard without the numpad and six pack, or if the keys are 
about average sized and the keyboard is not tiny?

  I am not saying this very well -- I want it to be easy to use, so not really 
small,.

  Thanks!

  Terrie


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Re: More than one device?

2013-10-18 Thread isaac
Al you have to do is back it up to iCloud then when setting up you're other 
devices choose the restore from backup option all you're settings and apps 
and every thing will be restored.


-Original Message- 
From: Regina Alvarado

Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: More than one device?

Same basic question, but when I got my iPad I downloaded apps from the store 
under purchased. Did not understand I would have to restore. This was a few 
weeks ago when everything was 7.0. My phone remains with everything the way 
I want it. Question: is there now any way to re-sync my iPad to iPhone 
moving all apps and settings over or am I stuck doing all by hand? Same 
question for an upgraded phone. I have a few items I absolutely want to 
transfer both to my iPad and eventually a new phone. Please if describing, 
go step-by-step. I do not want to guess on this. I will do all by hand, but 
it would be much easier for me if it could just sync exactly like the phone, 
of course understanding the iPad is different in some ways! Thank you in 
advance. Perhaps I got just a bit ahead of myself and should have waited 
until the fire of 7.02 died down before I tried to be a techie! :)



reggie and Allegra

On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:29 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

Most of this will be covered by an iCloud backup from the first and restore
to the second.  That should include data for the apps if turned on, so yes
to their settings too.  I don't know about music, that is more an iTunes
thing, and that would preclude iCloud.
Apps might have iPad specific code so would change when it discovered what
it was running on, but no reason not to work. There's an option to make
small screen apps to fill the larger iPad screen.

In short, I never found an issue when i had both.

Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Cramer tom.cram...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 7:15 AM
Subject: More than one device?


Hi,



I just got an IPad, but I want to know the following.

Can I have the same apps on my IPad as on my IPhone, and will they work the
same?

Also, will the settings be the same, or will I have to do settings on each
device.  I mean, if I download OOTunes or Tunein radio, will I be able to
get the same stations listed in my recents or favorites or will I need to do
that separately on the IPad?

Finally, what about the music I have on my Iphone?

I have absolutely no idea how to go about getting it to the Ipad.  Please
help!



Thanks

Tom

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Re: iPhone 5S improved battery life

2013-10-18 Thread Alan Paganelli
I can't ever recall getting 2 days out of my iPhone 4's battery.  That would be 
good if that were the case.  Thanks!
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Robin Christopherson 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 7:25 AM
  Subject: iPhone 5S improved battery life


  Dear listers
  I recently got a 5S and am getting 2 days out of each charge which is amazing 
compared to my 4S. Of course after two years the battery may have lost a lot of 
capacity but I just wanted to sound others out about their battery performance. 
I’m listening to a lot of audio on and off as well as light usage of other 
apps, email and the phone etc. Also lots of Siri.
  Thanks, Robin.

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Data usage question

2013-10-18 Thread Donald L. Roberts
I feel foolish asking this question because I am certain that something 
is radically wrong. But what?


One of my IOS devices is a 4S running IOS 7.02. It is activated on the 
Verizon network. The other day, while waiting for an appointment, I 
listened to Pandora for 55 minutes, using cellular data. I have the app 
called Dataman which I checked for usage and found that Dataman alleged 
a data usage of almost 75 megs for that 55 minute period. I remember 
reading a post a couple of months ago on this list stating that Pandora 
usage should be perhaps 16 megs per hour. Prior to turning on Pandora, I 
had cleared the app switcher of everything with the exception of 
Dataman; so I know that no other app was using cellular data while 
Pandora was running.


So the question becomes, is it even possible for Pandora (the free 
version) to use almost 75 megs in slightly less than an hour? Opinions 
and ideas please.


Don Roberts

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Re: iPhone 5S improved battery life

2013-10-18 Thread Chris H

It's the case with me but my 4s is new as of a couple of weeks ago.

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On 18/10/2013 16:22, Alan Paganelli wrote:

I can't ever recall getting 2 days out of my iPhone 4's battery.  That would be 
good if that were the case.  Thanks!
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   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 7:25 AM
   Subject: iPhone 5S improved battery life


   Dear listers
   I recently got a 5S and am getting 2 days out of each charge which is 
amazing compared to my 4S. Of course after two years the battery may have lost 
a lot of capacity but I just wanted to sound others out about their battery 
performance. I’m listening to a lot of audio on and off as well as light usage 
of other apps, email and the phone etc. Also lots of Siri.
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Re: Data usage question

2013-10-18 Thread Patrick Neazer
Hello Donald and all:

Let me start with the punch line … :). I have absolutely no idea what the 
answer to your question is … though I might have a way to get at an answer. 

I am an ATT customer. If I type in *data# *3282# I receive a text message 
back informing me of my current usage. did you have any idea what your usage 
was before using pandora? if so, you might be able to get a ballpark idea if 
you use the comparable verizon feature … if there is such a beast. I cannot 
believe there is not such a beast :). 

Of course I could say … of course Pandora uses such and such data … or of 
course pandora could never use such and such amounts of data in an hour. the 
only way to find out is to test it and take the guess work out of it. 

Of course, there will be a lag in the update time though an educated guess can 
be reached.

Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick 
On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 I feel foolish asking this question because I am certain that something is 
 radically wrong. But what?
 
 One of my IOS devices is a 4S running IOS 7.02. It is activated on the 
 Verizon network. The other day, while waiting for an appointment, I listened 
 to Pandora for 55 minutes, using cellular data. I have the app called Dataman 
 which I checked for usage and found that Dataman alleged a data usage of 
 almost 75 megs for that 55 minute period. I remember reading a post a couple 
 of months ago on this list stating that Pandora usage should be perhaps 16 
 megs per hour. Prior to turning on Pandora, I had cleared the app switcher of 
 everything with the exception of Dataman; so I know that no other app was 
 using cellular data while Pandora was running.
 
 So the question becomes, is it even possible for Pandora (the free version) 
 to use almost 75 megs in slightly less than an hour? Opinions and ideas 
 please.
 
 Don Roberts
 
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Re: Data usage question

2013-10-18 Thread Donald L. Roberts
Patrick, Thanks so much for the prompt response. In my initial message, 
I neglected to mention that prior to logging on to Pandora, I checked 
the usage of data for the month and found that it was almost nil.


Don Roberts


On 10/18/2013 8:36 AM, Patrick Neazer wrote:

Hello Donald and all:

Let me start with the punch line … :). I have absolutely no idea what the 
answer to your question is … though I might have a way to get at an answer.

I am an ATT customer. If I type in *data# *3282# I receive a text message 
back informing me of my current usage. did you have any idea what your usage was before using 
pandora? if so, you might be able to get a ballpark idea if you use the comparable verizon 
feature … if there is such a beast. I cannot believe there is not such a beast :).

Of course I could say … of course Pandora uses such and such data … or of 
course pandora could never use such and such amounts of data in an hour. the 
only way to find out is to test it and take the guess work out of it.

Of course, there will be a lag in the update time though an educated guess can 
be reached.

Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick
On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I feel foolish asking this question because I am certain that something is 
radically wrong. But what?

One of my IOS devices is a 4S running IOS 7.02. It is activated on the Verizon 
network. The other day, while waiting for an appointment, I listened to Pandora 
for 55 minutes, using cellular data. I have the app called Dataman which I 
checked for usage and found that Dataman alleged a data usage of almost 75 megs 
for that 55 minute period. I remember reading a post a couple of months ago on 
this list stating that Pandora usage should be perhaps 16 megs per hour. Prior 
to turning on Pandora, I had cleared the app switcher of everything with the 
exception of Dataman; so I know that no other app was using cellular data while 
Pandora was running.

So the question becomes, is it even possible for Pandora (the free version) to 
use almost 75 megs in slightly less than an hour? Opinions and ideas please.

Don Roberts

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iTunes Match: Changing iCloud Playlists to Local?

2013-10-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

i confess I didn't read much about iTunes Match before I enabled it. I was 
surprised to find radio station playlists listed as iCloud ones with an error 
designation. Anyhow, I'd like to make a couple of my playlists local instead of 
having iCloud try to make sense of them. How do I do this?

BTW, I'm using a Mac Mini with Mountain Lion and the latest version of iTunes, 
plus an iPod Touch 5.

Thanks,
teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

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difference in quality, restore or new device?

2013-10-18 Thread Traci Duncan
Hi all, lol, sometime thinking of a concise subject is tricky.

As some of you know, I just received my new 5s.  When setting it up, I restored 
it from my 4s back up.

Is there a difference in quality/performance when treating the device as new or 
using a restore?

The reason I ask:
the VZW reception inside my house is 1of5 bars.  When it should be 2 to 3.
Also, I continue to have the horrible VO speaker issue when answering calls.  I 
thought I had read, 5s users weren't having that issue.

Anyway, what are your thoughts?  I'm tempted to start over.  I'm dreading the 
task of putting apps back in their folders, but if it'll improve things, it is 
worth it.

Thanks,
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Re: Data usage question

2013-10-18 Thread Wayne Merritt
Depending on how much of a data plan you have, 75 MB may not make that
much difference. If you are on one of the 200 MB monthly plans, then
that would make a difference and it is concerning. If however you have
a 2 GB or even 4 GB per month, don't worry about it too much. It is
good to track data usage with dataman or other similar apps, or by
calling/texting the carrier, but if you have  alarger data plan, then
75 MB may be equal to a drop in that large bucket.

Regards,
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On 10/18/13, Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote:
 Patrick, Thanks so much for the prompt response. In my initial message,
 I neglected to mention that prior to logging on to Pandora, I checked
 the usage of data for the month and found that it was almost nil.

 Don Roberts


 On 10/18/2013 8:36 AM, Patrick Neazer wrote:
 Hello Donald and all:

 Let me start with the punch line … :). I have absolutely no idea what the
 answer to your question is … though I might have a way to get at an
 answer.

 I am an ATT customer. If I type in *data# *3282# I receive a text
 message back informing me of my current usage. did you have any idea what
 your usage was before using pandora? if so, you might be able to get a
 ballpark idea if you use the comparable verizon feature … if there is such
 a beast. I cannot believe there is not such a beast :).

 Of course I could say … of course Pandora uses such and such data … or of
 course pandora could never use such and such amounts of data in an hour.
 the only way to find out is to test it and take the guess work out of it.

 Of course, there will be a lag in the update time though an educated guess
 can be reached.

 Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.

 Take good care and I wish you enough.

 Patrick
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Donald L. Roberts
 donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote:

 I feel foolish asking this question because I am certain that something
 is radically wrong. But what?

 One of my IOS devices is a 4S running IOS 7.02. It is activated on the
 Verizon network. The other day, while waiting for an appointment, I
 listened to Pandora for 55 minutes, using cellular data. I have the app
 called Dataman which I checked for usage and found that Dataman alleged a
 data usage of almost 75 megs for that 55 minute period. I remember
 reading a post a couple of months ago on this list stating that Pandora
 usage should be perhaps 16 megs per hour. Prior to turning on Pandora, I
 had cleared the app switcher of everything with the exception of Dataman;
 so I know that no other app was using cellular data while Pandora was
 running.

 So the question becomes, is it even possible for Pandora (the free
 version) to use almost 75 megs in slightly less than an hour? Opinions
 and ideas please.

 Don Roberts

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Re: opening app switcher

2013-10-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The three finger swipe up, after giving focus to the status bar, will 
bring up the Control Center. It won't bring up the App Switcher. I don't 
know of another way to bring up the App Switcher, but that doesn't mean 
another means doesn't exist.


Interestingly enough, pressing the home button once, while on the home 
screen, doesn't do anything anymore. I think Apple is missing an 
opportunity to take advantage of this scarce resource, so I gave them 
some feedback that the home button should definitely do something on the 
home screen, such as bring up the App Switcher.


On 10/18/2013 02:39 AM, Chris H wrote:

That's only to close an app.

E-mail Facebook and iMessage
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On 18/10/2013 07:41, Pinky wrote:

Hi



I know a person can push the home button twice to bring up the app
switcher.
Is there another way to bring up the app switcher.  I thought a person
could
use a three finger swipe up but I have only been able to make that work
once.  Am I doing something wrong?



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Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

2013-10-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
My understanding is that a separate authorization is only required if 
you transfer a book to your iPhone via iTunes, DropBox or some other 
method. If you're able to download a book directly to your iPhone then 
there is no separate authorization step.


On 10/18/2013 08:06 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

Even though the government is back up and running, it may take them a
while to get everything going smooth on the site and with the app. I
submitted a problem report but have not received any acknowledgement
of my message. Guess they have some catching up to do. If you are
still getting the authorization trouble in a few days, email their
main address:
nlsb...@loc.gov
I think the BARD Mobile support address is:
nlsbardmob...@loc.gov
but am not sure of that. I have never had any authorization issues
when downloading books directly to my iPhone.

Regards,
Wayne

On 10/18/13, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:

I had no problem yesterday. I downloaded one via phone, and transferred
three via itunes.

Alia
On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,
I tried downloading a couple of books from bard today, but they're still
not authorizing, no matter what I do. I figured since the government was
back up, maybe it would be fixed. Is anyone still having this problem?
Thanks,


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Re: Fox News app on iPhone

2013-10-18 Thread Tarapprakash
Msnbc has audio feed on shoutcast. 

Sent from my iPhone

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 So anyone who could help with this, I would be greatly appreciated!
  
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Re: Fox News app on iPhone

2013-10-18 Thread Isaac Hebert
I don't see the tv icon either. I only see a audio icon and articles
and shows videos and more.

On 10/18/13, Tarapprakash taraprak...@gmail.com wrote:
 Msnbc has audio feed on shoutcast.

 Sent from my iPhone

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 help.
 I downloaded the Fox News app, and it says to tap on the tv icon on the
 main menu to sign in to your cable account to watch live.
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 So anyone who could help with this, I would be greatly appreciated!

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transferring contacts from 4 to 4S

2013-10-18 Thread Donald L. Roberts
My iPhone 4 is running IOS 6.13, and the 4S is running 7.02. Because the 
apps on the 4 are significantly different from those on the 4S, I can't 
just do a complete backup and restore. So what is the most practical way 
to get the contacts which are on the 4 to appear on the 4S?


Thanks.

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Re: Data usage question

2013-10-18 Thread Patrick Neazer
Hello Donald and all:

Did you happen to take the check data feature for a spin after your pandora 
experience? if so, what did you get? forgive me if this sounds obvious to you. 

What I am really asking is were you able to confirm a result other than by 
using data man.

Take good care and I wish you enough. 

Patrick 


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wrote:

 Patrick, Thanks so much for the prompt response. In my initial message, I 
 neglected to mention that prior to logging on to Pandora, I checked the usage 
 of data for the month and found that it was almost nil.
 
 Don Roberts
 
 
 On 10/18/2013 8:36 AM, Patrick Neazer wrote:
 Hello Donald and all:
 
 Let me start with the punch line … :). I have absolutely no idea what the 
 answer to your question is … though I might have a way to get at an answer.
 
 I am an ATT customer. If I type in *data# *3282# I receive a text message 
 back informing me of my current usage. did you have any idea what your usage 
 was before using pandora? if so, you might be able to get a ballpark idea if 
 you use the comparable verizon feature … if there is such a beast. I cannot 
 believe there is not such a beast :).
 
 Of course I could say … of course Pandora uses such and such data … or of 
 course pandora could never use such and such amounts of data in an hour. the 
 only way to find out is to test it and take the guess work out of it.
 
 Of course, there will be a lag in the update time though an educated guess 
 can be reached.
 
 Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.
 
 Take good care and I wish you enough.
 
 Patrick
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
 donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I feel foolish asking this question because I am certain that something is 
 radically wrong. But what?
 
 One of my IOS devices is a 4S running IOS 7.02. It is activated on the 
 Verizon network. The other day, while waiting for an appointment, I 
 listened to Pandora for 55 minutes, using cellular data. I have the app 
 called Dataman which I checked for usage and found that Dataman alleged a 
 data usage of almost 75 megs for that 55 minute period. I remember reading 
 a post a couple of months ago on this list stating that Pandora usage 
 should be perhaps 16 megs per hour. Prior to turning on Pandora, I had 
 cleared the app switcher of everything with the exception of Dataman; so I 
 know that no other app was using cellular data while Pandora was running.
 
 So the question becomes, is it even possible for Pandora (the free version) 
 to use almost 75 megs in slightly less than an hour? Opinions and ideas 
 please.
 
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Re: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone

2013-10-18 Thread Jennie Facer
I also love this keyboard. I have it. I really enjoy it.
Jen

Sent from my iPad

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 that is the one, it is the best thing i have had, Carol
 On 18 Oct 2013, at 12:29, Kliphton --- kliphton@outlook.com wrote:
 
 I use the logitech easy switch 811 keyboard.  It is about the same size as 
 the apple bt keyboard, but instead of the keys being flat, they are rounded 
 to fit your fingers.  Its a little more expensive then the amazon basic 
 keyboard, but you can also connect it to 3 devices at the same time.  There 
 is a on off switch, and it is easy to pair.  HTH 
 
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 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Hello all,
 I am looking for a blue tooth keyboard to use for notetaking with the iPhone 
 5. I want something with keys that feel like a regular keyboard, not tiny 
 keys that are on many small keyboards. Is there anything good other than the 
 Apple keyboard that has the feel of a standard keyboard? Also, do I need all 
 the Apple keys (option, FN, etc.) in order to take notes on the iPhone? Is 
 there a Windows blue tooth keyboard that works just as well?
 Thanks for your thoughts. I am asking because I spent a miserable day taking 
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Re: Data usage question

2013-10-18 Thread Donald L. Roberts
Hi Patrick, The answer to your question is yes I did. After checking 
Dataman, I went into the usage area of settings to confirm Dataman's 
figures and found that they concurred.


I think I will try again. It's not that I don't have the data, but this 
phone is on a shared family plan, and I don't want to use more than my 
share of data.


Don Roberts


On 10/18/2013 10:03 AM, Patrick Neazer wrote:

Hello Donald and all:

Did you happen to take the check data feature for a spin after your pandora 
experience? if so, what did you get? forgive me if this sounds obvious to you.

What I am really asking is were you able to confirm a result other than by 
using data man.

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick


On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Patrick, Thanks so much for the prompt response. In my initial message, I 
neglected to mention that prior to logging on to Pandora, I checked the usage 
of data for the month and found that it was almost nil.

Don Roberts


On 10/18/2013 8:36 AM, Patrick Neazer wrote:

Hello Donald and all:

Let me start with the punch line … :). I have absolutely no idea what the 
answer to your question is … though I might have a way to get at an answer.

I am an ATT customer. If I type in *data# *3282# I receive a text message 
back informing me of my current usage. did you have any idea what your usage was before using 
pandora? if so, you might be able to get a ballpark idea if you use the comparable verizon 
feature … if there is such a beast. I cannot believe there is not such a beast :).

Of course I could say … of course Pandora uses such and such data … or of 
course pandora could never use such and such amounts of data in an hour. the 
only way to find out is to test it and take the guess work out of it.

Of course, there will be a lag in the update time though an educated guess can 
be reached.

Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick
On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I feel foolish asking this question because I am certain that something is 
radically wrong. But what?

One of my IOS devices is a 4S running IOS 7.02. It is activated on the Verizon 
network. The other day, while waiting for an appointment, I listened to Pandora 
for 55 minutes, using cellular data. I have the app called Dataman which I 
checked for usage and found that Dataman alleged a data usage of almost 75 megs 
for that 55 minute period. I remember reading a post a couple of months ago on 
this list stating that Pandora usage should be perhaps 16 megs per hour. Prior 
to turning on Pandora, I had cleared the app switcher of everything with the 
exception of Dataman; so I know that no other app was using cellular data while 
Pandora was running.

So the question becomes, is it even possible for Pandora (the free version) to 
use almost 75 megs in slightly less than an hour? Opinions and ideas please.

Don Roberts

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Re: transferring contacts from 4 to 4S

2013-10-18 Thread isaac
Just back it up to iCloud then on the 4 s use the restore back up option to 
restore you're contacts settings and apps


-Original Message- 
From: Donald L. Roberts

Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 11:37 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: transferring contacts from 4 to 4S

My iPhone 4 is running IOS 6.13, and the 4S is running 7.02. Because the
apps on the 4 are significantly different from those on the 4S, I can't
just do a complete backup and restore. So what is the most practical way
to get the contacts which are on the 4 to appear on the 4S?

Thanks.

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Re: can't receive mail

2013-10-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't use Outlook, but I'd check your Outlook settings for your Gmail 
account. Your incoming mail will come from an IMAP or POP server, while 
you're outgoing email will go through an SMTP server, so the fact that 
you can send and receive email from your iphone and can send mail from 
Outlook points to your IMAP or POP settings in Outlook. You can use 
Google to find tons of articles on what your IMAP/POP settings should be 
for Outlook.


On 10/18/2013 04:48 AM, thomas williams wrote:

Hello to the list, I hope this is not off topic, This is something that
started about a month ago, when I try to get email from my computer I
get a message that the server rejected my password but I can send mail
from this account also I I can receive and send mail from my IPhone. I
am using Microsoft outlook 2010, hope someone can help. Contact
information is 336-549-4728

Hello to the list, I hope this is not off topic, This is something that
started about a month ago, when I try to get email from my computer I
get a message that the server rejected my password but I can send mail
from this account also I  can receive and send mail from my IPhone. I am
using Microsoft outlook 2010, hope someone can help. Contact information
is 336-549-4728

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Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

2013-10-18 Thread Kimber Gardner
I transferred a couple of books to my phone via iTunes the other day
but did not have to go through any additional step to authorize the
book.

Though it's handy to be able to download books over wifi, I find
iTunes is much faster.

On 10/18/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 My understanding is that a separate authorization is only required if
 you transfer a book to your iPhone via iTunes, DropBox or some other
 method. If you're able to download a book directly to your iPhone then
 there is no separate authorization step.

 On 10/18/2013 08:06 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
 Even though the government is back up and running, it may take them a
 while to get everything going smooth on the site and with the app. I
 submitted a problem report but have not received any acknowledgement
 of my message. Guess they have some catching up to do. If you are
 still getting the authorization trouble in a few days, email their
 main address:
 nlsb...@loc.gov
 I think the BARD Mobile support address is:
 nlsbardmob...@loc.gov
 but am not sure of that. I have never had any authorization issues
 when downloading books directly to my iPhone.

 Regards,
 Wayne

 On 10/18/13, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had no problem yesterday. I downloaded one via phone, and transferred
 three via itunes.

 Alia
 On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,
 I tried downloading a couple of books from bard today, but they're
 still
 not authorizing, no matter what I do. I figured since the government
 was
 back up, maybe it would be fixed. Is anyone still having this problem?
 Thanks,

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Re: Using Siri to call phone numbers with extensions.

2013-10-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
You can also use a ';' (semi-colon) instead of a ',' (comma) to get a 
wait instead of a pause. Here's more about entering extensions into your 
contact list http://www.iphonefaq.org/archives/971500


On 10/18/2013 01:15 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Liz,

If this is somebody in your contacts you can add a comma , after the
number and then put the numbers for the extension. If you dial that contact
a pause is inserted after dialing the number and then the extension is
dialed, if you need a longer pause you can insert 2 commas.

Otherwise the way to dial an extension is to just practice and dial it on
the keypad as you would on a normal phone.
I find it helps to use touch typing and it probably does work better with a
headset because it's easier to hear what you are dialing as well as any
prompts from the system.
As I said, this should be something most people can get better at with
practice, I say most because I do understand that possibly somebody with
motor/coordination problems could have a problem that is not solved by
practice.

If orientation is your issue you might want to consider a tactile screen
protector which gives you a dot where the 5 is on the keypad.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Liz and Sammie
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using Siri to call phone numbers with extensions.

I am wondering if Siri can dial a phone number such as a number to a company
plus an extension to a particular person that I need to talk to in the
company?  I find that when using my Iphone if I need to dial an extension
that sometimes I'm not fast enough, and it does not work.  If Siri can't do
this, what is the correct way to dial an extension with the Iphone?

Liz Ulrich and Leader dog Sammie

Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1


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Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

2013-10-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The authorization is done automatically when you go to play the book. 
You won't notice anything unless there's a problem verifying the 
authorization.


On 10/18/2013 12:27 PM, Kimber Gardner wrote:

I transferred a couple of books to my phone via iTunes the other day
but did not have to go through any additional step to authorize the
book.

Though it's handy to be able to download books over wifi, I find
iTunes is much faster.

On 10/18/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

My understanding is that a separate authorization is only required if
you transfer a book to your iPhone via iTunes, DropBox or some other
method. If you're able to download a book directly to your iPhone then
there is no separate authorization step.

On 10/18/2013 08:06 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

Even though the government is back up and running, it may take them a
while to get everything going smooth on the site and with the app. I
submitted a problem report but have not received any acknowledgement
of my message. Guess they have some catching up to do. If you are
still getting the authorization trouble in a few days, email their
main address:
nlsb...@loc.gov
I think the BARD Mobile support address is:
nlsbardmob...@loc.gov
but am not sure of that. I have never had any authorization issues
when downloading books directly to my iPhone.

Regards,
Wayne

On 10/18/13, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:

I had no problem yesterday. I downloaded one via phone, and transferred
three via itunes.

Alia
On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com
wrote:


Hi,
I tried downloading a couple of books from bard today, but they're
still
not authorizing, no matter what I do. I figured since the government
was
back up, maybe it would be fixed. Is anyone still having this problem?
Thanks,


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Re: finger print, how it works?

2013-10-18 Thread Pablo Morales
Ok, but for how long i need to press my finger on the home button?
If I press this button for a  long time, then siri will ask what I
dwant to do. I am pressing the home button just for a little bit, like
when we want to close an app, but my iPhone doesn't make anything.
What I am doing wrong?

On 10/18/13, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 To unlock your phone with your fingerprint, just press your finger to the
 home button. The phone will see it and unlock if it recognizes you. Note
 that three failed unlock attempts will result in a prompt for your passcode,
 which is why you need to set one before you can use the fingerprint reader.
 Not unlocking your phone in forty-eight hours will do the same thing. To
 authenticate a purchase, press your finger to the reader when you are
 prompted for a password in the App store. This process is not yet perfect,
 and you do sometimes still need to enter your password.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2013, at 4:26, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all.
 I have my iPhone 5s, and I see a big difference between the 5, and 5s, but
 a huge difference with my old iPhone 4. One of these differences is the
 finger print. I did what Sieghard told me in his email, but to use this
 feature, I understood that with the finger print, I would be able to
 unlock the screen, or approve  purchases, and that kind of things. But it
 is something that I  don't know how do it. I know that the home button is
 the reader of the finger print, but how I tell my phone that I want to use
 my finger print to unlock the screen, or to pay something in the
 appstore?
 Thanks in advance.
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Re: New iPhone 5s.

2013-10-18 Thread Pablo Morales
Hi ED.
That's ok. Dont worry, i know that your intention was help.
P

On 10/18/13, Ed Barnes edbarn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Pablo, thanks for the clarification on what you are trying to do.
 When I read message 1 which you sent to the list I was unsure if you were
 trying to copy everything from your old iPhone 4 unto your 5 or and keep
 the
 things that are already on the 5 as well, or if you were trying to simply
 copy everything on your iPhone 5 to a new 5S.
 I just read the messages which came into my inbox bbetween yesterday
 morning
 and now as I only read this list about once a day, and having read those
 messages thing are now much clearer to me.
 Further, Sieghard has already answered your query so I won't re-write most
 of the things he has already stated.
 Lastly, I did not mean any offense when I stated that I did not understand
 your first message, infact, if I wrote something that was not clear I would
 hope you would tell me if my message did not make any sense too. :)
 I suppose anyone who knows me well personally for a long time can tell you
 that I'm pretty blunt, this is true when I write emails as well, good luck
 with your new phone.
 Ed


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 Of Pablo Morales
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:44 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: New iPhone 5s.

 Good morning ED.
 Yes, english is not my main language, but let me clarify this; 1. What does
 Even though mean for you?
 When I say that I cancelled my order, even though USPS sent me a
 notification that my iPhone 5s will arrive today, what does that mean for
 you?
 In spanish, that means that when I did something to stop the process buying
 a iPhone 5s, t-mobile sent the iPhone 5s anyway.
 2. Later I say that I want to transfer my contacts, email account from my
 old iPhone 4, to the new one, it means the iPhone 5s that is arriving
 today.
 Why you understand that I want to merge both iDevices personal and business
 together?
 Yes, I  know that english is not my main language, and I am so thankful
 with
 your concern about my english. Even though, I do not see that my email
 doesn't make sense.
 I hope that my responses are clear for you.
 P

 On 10/17/13, Ed Barnes edbarn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good morning Pablo, I realize that english may not be your first
 language, your message does not make any sense, at the top of your
 message you indicate that you have cancelled your order for an iPhone
 5S, however; at the bottom you indicate that you want to transfer all
 content from your iPhone 4 to an iPhone 5S

 Next question, are you keeping your iPhone 5 as the business phone and
 the new iPhone 5S will be your personal iPhone or are you trying to
 integrate all the stuff unto one phone.

 Hope these questions help us get to the bottom of your query.

 Ed





 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Pablo Morales
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 7:18 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: New iPhone 5s.



 Hi all.

 Well, a few days, this last Thursday, I cancelled my order with
 t-mobile for an iPhone 5s that I bought with them, because the delay
 for the delivery.
 Even though, yesterday, I received a notification from USPS saying
 that my iPhone 5s comes today. It is crazy.

 Well, the point is this. I have 2 iPhones, one for personal
 things,iPhone 4, and other for business iPhone 5. Both has different
 content and different apple account.

 Now, I don't know, what I have to do to replace the functionality of
 my older iPhone 4. I mean,I want to give my iPhone 4 to my friend, and
 transfer the apple account to my new iPhone 5s, contacts, business
 email account, bookmarks, personal email account, personal phone book,
 and apps.

 What I have to do, to transfer the whole content of my older iPhone 4,
 to a new iPhone 5s?

 Thanks in advance.

 Pablo



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Re: Data usage question

2013-10-18 Thread Patrick Neazer
Hello Donald and all:

I completely understand the idea of not wanting to use more data than is your 
share. we have a plan here as well and even though there is plenty of data to 
go around, checking now and again cannot hurt. I cannot tell you how many times 
I have been told that a particular app will use such and such amounts of data 
only to be greatly surprised both to my advantage and disadvantage. so, my 
experience is that checking for myself hurts no one and might just help me and 
the ones on my plan :).

If you run another test, please post your findings to the list. if no one else 
is curious, I certainly am because the difference between 16 and 75 meg is 
interesting if not hugely substantial :). 

Please let us know what happens on your adventure :).

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick 
On Oct 18, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi Patrick, The answer to your question is yes I did. After checking Dataman, 
 I went into the usage area of settings to confirm Dataman's figures and found 
 that they concurred.
 
 I think I will try again. It's not that I don't have the data, but this phone 
 is on a shared family plan, and I don't want to use more than my share of 
 data.
 
 Don Roberts
 
 
 On 10/18/2013 10:03 AM, Patrick Neazer wrote:
 Hello Donald and all:
 
 Did you happen to take the check data feature for a spin after your pandora 
 experience? if so, what did you get? forgive me if this sounds obvious to 
 you.
 
 What I am really asking is were you able to confirm a result other than by 
 using data man.
 
 Take good care and I wish you enough.
 
 Patrick
 
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
 donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Patrick, Thanks so much for the prompt response. In my initial message, I 
 neglected to mention that prior to logging on to Pandora, I checked the 
 usage of data for the month and found that it was almost nil.
 
 Don Roberts
 
 
 On 10/18/2013 8:36 AM, Patrick Neazer wrote:
 Hello Donald and all:
 
 Let me start with the punch line … :). I have absolutely no idea what the 
 answer to your question is … though I might have a way to get at an answer.
 
 I am an ATT customer. If I type in *data# *3282# I receive a text 
 message back informing me of my current usage. did you have any idea what 
 your usage was before using pandora? if so, you might be able to get a 
 ballpark idea if you use the comparable verizon feature … if there is such 
 a beast. I cannot believe there is not such a beast :).
 
 Of course I could say … of course Pandora uses such and such data … or of 
 course pandora could never use such and such amounts of data in an hour. 
 the only way to find out is to test it and take the guess work out of it.
 
 Of course, there will be a lag in the update time though an educated guess 
 can be reached.
 
 Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.
 
 Take good care and I wish you enough.
 
 Patrick
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
 donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I feel foolish asking this question because I am certain that something 
 is radically wrong. But what?
 
 One of my IOS devices is a 4S running IOS 7.02. It is activated on the 
 Verizon network. The other day, while waiting for an appointment, I 
 listened to Pandora for 55 minutes, using cellular data. I have the app 
 called Dataman which I checked for usage and found that Dataman alleged a 
 data usage of almost 75 megs for that 55 minute period. I remember 
 reading a post a couple of months ago on this list stating that Pandora 
 usage should be perhaps 16 megs per hour. Prior to turning on Pandora, I 
 had cleared the app switcher of everything with the exception of Dataman; 
 so I know that no other app was using cellular data while Pandora was 
 running.
 
 So the question becomes, is it even possible for Pandora (the free 
 version) to use almost 75 megs in slightly less than an hour? Opinions 
 and ideas please.
 
 Don Roberts
 
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Accessible Phone Call Recording App

2013-10-18 Thread Bill Gallik

Can anyone on the list suggest an accessible phone call recording app?

I suspect I'm going to receive a telephone call shortly that will render it 
prudent to record the conversation.


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Re: finger print, how it works?

2013-10-18 Thread Alex Hall
Ah, I get it. To use the fingerprint reader, don't actually press in the home 
button, just place your finger on it like you are about to press it. Pressing 
it in will activate it like normal, but just touching it will activate the 
reader.
On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, but for how long i need to press my finger on the home button?
 If I press this button for a  long time, then siri will ask what I
 dwant to do. I am pressing the home button just for a little bit, like
 when we want to close an app, but my iPhone doesn't make anything.
 What I am doing wrong?
 
 On 10/18/13, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 To unlock your phone with your fingerprint, just press your finger to the
 home button. The phone will see it and unlock if it recognizes you. Note
 that three failed unlock attempts will result in a prompt for your passcode,
 which is why you need to set one before you can use the fingerprint reader.
 Not unlocking your phone in forty-eight hours will do the same thing. To
 authenticate a purchase, press your finger to the reader when you are
 prompted for a password in the App store. This process is not yet perfect,
 and you do sometimes still need to enter your password.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 4:26, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 I have my iPhone 5s, and I see a big difference between the 5, and 5s, but
 a huge difference with my old iPhone 4. One of these differences is the
 finger print. I did what Sieghard told me in his email, but to use this
 feature, I understood that with the finger print, I would be able to
 unlock the screen, or approve  purchases, and that kind of things. But it
 is something that I  don't know how do it. I know that the home button is
 the reader of the finger print, but how I tell my phone that I want to use
 my finger print to unlock the screen, or to pay something in the
 appstore?
 Thanks in advance.
 P
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Re: finger print, how it works?

2013-10-18 Thread Patrick Neazer
Hello Pablo and all:

You do not want to press the home button is if you were wanting to ask siri a 
question. 

What you want to do is take the tip of your finger and lay it on the home 
button as if you were touching the end of your nose.

touch the button then lift your finger. voiceover will prompt you to do it 
again. you will have to touch the button a few times in order for the phone to 
get an accurate picture of your finger print. 

Voiceover will tell you when a good picture has been taken.

Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.

My Spanish is not very good though … buenos suerte 

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick 
On Oct 18, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, but for how long i need to press my finger on the home button?
 If I press this button for a  long time, then siri will ask what I
 dwant to do. I am pressing the home button just for a little bit, like
 when we want to close an app, but my iPhone doesn't make anything.
 What I am doing wrong?
 
 On 10/18/13, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 To unlock your phone with your fingerprint, just press your finger to the
 home button. The phone will see it and unlock if it recognizes you. Note
 that three failed unlock attempts will result in a prompt for your passcode,
 which is why you need to set one before you can use the fingerprint reader.
 Not unlocking your phone in forty-eight hours will do the same thing. To
 authenticate a purchase, press your finger to the reader when you are
 prompted for a password in the App store. This process is not yet perfect,
 and you do sometimes still need to enter your password.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 4:26, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 I have my iPhone 5s, and I see a big difference between the 5, and 5s, but
 a huge difference with my old iPhone 4. One of these differences is the
 finger print. I did what Sieghard told me in his email, but to use this
 feature, I understood that with the finger print, I would be able to
 unlock the screen, or approve  purchases, and that kind of things. But it
 is something that I  don't know how do it. I know that the home button is
 the reader of the finger print, but how I tell my phone that I want to use
 my finger print to unlock the screen, or to pay something in the
 appstore?
 Thanks in advance.
 P
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RE: Accessible Phone Call Recording App

2013-10-18 Thread Joe
GroundWire app can do this, assuming you have a VOIP provider..

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Can anyone on the list suggest an accessible phone call recording app?

I suspect I'm going to receive a telephone call shortly that will render it
prudent to record the conversation.

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Re: Data usage question

2013-10-18 Thread Candy Lowe
You can do a star DAT a and receive your data usage from Verizon.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Donald L. Roberts 
 donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Patrick, The answer to your question is yes I did. After checking Dataman, 
 I went into the usage area of settings to confirm Dataman's figures and found 
 that they concurred.
 
 I think I will try again. It's not that I don't have the data, but this phone 
 is on a shared family plan, and I don't want to use more than my share of 
 data.
 
 Don Roberts
 
 
 On 10/18/2013 10:03 AM, Patrick Neazer wrote:
 Hello Donald and all:
 
 Did you happen to take the check data feature for a spin after your pandora 
 experience? if so, what did you get? forgive me if this sounds obvious to 
 you.
 
 What I am really asking is were you able to confirm a result other than by 
 using data man.
 
 Take good care and I wish you enough.
 
 Patrick
 
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
 donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Patrick, Thanks so much for the prompt response. In my initial message, I 
 neglected to mention that prior to logging on to Pandora, I checked the 
 usage of data for the month and found that it was almost nil.
 
 Don Roberts
 
 
 On 10/18/2013 8:36 AM, Patrick Neazer wrote:
 Hello Donald and all:
 
 Let me start with the punch line … :). I have absolutely no idea what the 
 answer to your question is … though I might have a way to get at an answer.
 
 I am an ATT customer. If I type in *data# *3282# I receive a text 
 message back informing me of my current usage. did you have any idea what 
 your usage was before using pandora? if so, you might be able to get a 
 ballpark idea if you use the comparable verizon feature … if there is such 
 a beast. I cannot believe there is not such a beast :).
 
 Of course I could say … of course Pandora uses such and such data … or of 
 course pandora could never use such and such amounts of data in an hour. 
 the only way to find out is to test it and take the guess work out of it.
 
 Of course, there will be a lag in the update time though an educated guess 
 can be reached.
 
 Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.
 
 Take good care and I wish you enough.
 
 Patrick
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
 donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I feel foolish asking this question because I am certain that something 
 is radically wrong. But what?
 
 One of my IOS devices is a 4S running IOS 7.02. It is activated on the 
 Verizon network. The other day, while waiting for an appointment, I 
 listened to Pandora for 55 minutes, using cellular data. I have the app 
 called Dataman which I checked for usage and found that Dataman alleged a 
 data usage of almost 75 megs for that 55 minute period. I remember 
 reading a post a couple of months ago on this list stating that Pandora 
 usage should be perhaps 16 megs per hour. Prior to turning on Pandora, I 
 had cleared the app switcher of everything with the exception of Dataman; 
 so I know that no other app was using cellular data while Pandora was 
 running.
 
 So the question becomes, is it even possible for Pandora (the free 
 version) to use almost 75 megs in slightly less than an hour? Opinions 
 and ideas please.
 
 Don Roberts
 
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Restoring From THE Cloud

2013-10-18 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hello,

I am posting a new thread for clarification. It is my understanding that if one 
chooses to restore from the cloud that the apps placed on the new device will 
be the current version of an app. First, Is this true? And, if one wants 
certain apps to be an older versions that one should restore from iTunes. 
Further explanation of this would be terrific, as I will be purchasing a new 
phone in the near future.

Thanks.

Cheers,
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RE: Fox News app on iPhone

2013-10-18 Thread Joe
Hi, I could be wrong but think this may only be available on the iPad. I use
the Verizon FiOS to watch FNC.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fox News app on iPhone

I don't see the tv icon either. I only see a audio icon and articles and
shows videos and more.

On 10/18/13, Tarapprakash taraprak...@gmail.com wrote:
 Msnbc has audio feed on shoutcast.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 17, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Chris Chaffin cchaf...@twcny.rr.com
wrote:

 Hello all,
 For anyone that uses the Fox News app, I am hoping you will be able 
 to help.
 I downloaded the Fox News app, and it says to tap on the tv icon on 
 the main menu to sign in to your cable account to watch live.
 The problem is I can not find the tv icon anywhere!  I even let a 
 sighted person help me and they could not find the tv icon either.
 So anyone who could help with this, I would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: Restoring From THE Cloud

2013-10-18 Thread Les Kriegler
I think you have this right.  If you restore from the cloud, you always get the 
most recent version of an app.  I remember Jonathan Mosen reported this a while 
back.

Les
On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I am posting a new thread for clarification. It is my understanding that if 
 one chooses to restore from the cloud that the apps placed on the new device 
 will be the current version of an app. First, Is this true? And, if one wants 
 certain apps to be an older versions that one should restore from iTunes. 
 Further explanation of this would be terrific, as I will be purchasing a new 
 phone in the near future.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: Restoring From THE Cloud

2013-10-18 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hi,

Thanks for clarifying this for me. That's what I thought. The reason that I 
posted this is that there is a recent post in using the cloud to restore a new 
iDevice, whatever it is using iCloud. Others need to be clear that the current 
version of an app will be placed on the new device and that some apps become 
broken when a new version is released. I just wanted others to know this before 
using the cloud.

Thanks.

Best,
Eileen


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 I think you have this right.  If you restore from the cloud, you always get 
 the most recent version of an app.  I remember Jonathan Mosen reported this a 
 while back.
 
 Les
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I am posting a new thread for clarification. It is my understanding that if 
 one chooses to restore from the cloud that the apps placed on the new device 
 will be the current version of an app. First, Is this true? And, if one 
 wants certain apps to be an older versions that one should restore from 
 iTunes. Further explanation of this would be terrific, as I will be 
 purchasing a new phone in the near future.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 
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Hand writing questions

2013-10-18 Thread Pinky
Hi group,

 

I have a few questions on the hand writing mode in IOS 7.  I have hand
writing in my rotor.

 

1.   How do you get a space in hand writing mode?

2.   How do you do the punctuations ?. Period, question mark, comma.

3.   How do you get upper case and lower case letters?

4.   When going to the VO practice I can't get hand writing to work
there.  What am I doing wrong.

5.   When using the four finger double tap on the home screen, practice
mode comes up stated all you can do in practice mode and I can't get hand
writing to work there.   I understand the four finger double tap turns on
handwriting practice mode.,

 

Thanks for any assistance on these questions.

 

Ed.

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Re: Hand writing questions

2013-10-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I think your best bet is to look at a blog posting or a podcast on 
handwriting mode. Here's one such resource 
http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/handwriting-in-ios-7-2/


I'll answer your specific questions below.

On 10/18/2013 01:39 PM, Pinky wrote:

1.How do you get a space in hand writing mode?


Two finger swipe right.


2.How do you do the punctuations ?. Period, question mark, comma.


Use a three finger swipe up or down to get to punctuation and then draw 
your punctuation. For something like a comma, which may be interpreted 
as a parenthesis, try a tap to give you a period and then a two finger 
swipe down to find a comma or other punctuation.



3.How do you get upper case and lower case letters?


You'll start off with lower case letters. To get to upper case letters, 
numbers and punctuation, use a three finger swipe up or down.


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Re: Restoring From THE Cloud

2013-10-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Technically, I think it's the current version of an app for that 
particular device. I read somewhere that Apple allowed multiple versions 
of an app to exist in the App Store to support older devices . Here's an 
article that talks about this a bit more 
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/17/apple-ios-last-compatible-version-app-iphone-ipod-ipad/


On 10/18/2013 01:38 PM, Eileens Misrahi wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for clarifying this for me. That's what I thought. The reason that I 
posted this is that there is a recent post in using the cloud to restore a new 
iDevice, whatever it is using iCloud. Others need to be clear that the current 
version of an app will be placed on the new device and that some apps become 
broken when a new version is released. I just wanted others to know this before 
using the cloud.

Thanks.

Best,
Eileen


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:


I think you have this right.  If you restore from the cloud, you always get the 
most recent version of an app.  I remember Jonathan Mosen reported this a while 
back.

Les
On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello,

I am posting a new thread for clarification. It is my understanding that if one 
chooses to restore from the cloud that the apps placed on the new device will 
be the current version of an app. First, Is this true? And, if one wants 
certain apps to be an older versions that one should restore from iTunes. 
Further explanation of this would be terrific, as I will be purchasing a new 
phone in the near future.

Thanks.

Cheers,
Eileen


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A couple of iPhone 5S observations

2013-10-18 Thread Grant Hardy
Just a quick message to see if others can replicate the following on their
iPhone 5S. The first thing I've noticed is that the clarity of the speaker
is a bit less than that of the iPhone 5. It sounds a little muffled, or at
least more bassy, and it seems that it distorts a bit easier. I plan to
look at some iPhone 5S units on display to see if mine is any different from
them, but just thought I'd throw that out there. The other thing I notice is
a subtle clink sound when the phone is shook. I want to say rattle, but
it's not really a rattle, just a tiny clink. It is something that my iPhone
5 didn't do though, and I'm curious whether others' 5Ss do.

 

Thanks,

 

Grant

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Re: Hand writing questions

2013-10-18 Thread Patrick Neazer
Hello Ed and all:

Congratulations to you for working with hand writing … you rock :). 

I will attempt to answer some of your questions here:

1. the way you get a space in handwriting mode is to do a two-finger swipe to 
the write. so, if you type the word job j o b and do a two finger swipe to 
the right you will hear the word job.

2. you do the punctuation by performing a 3 finger swipe up or down until you 
hear punctuation. then, hand write the punctuation you desire. now, there are 
some punctuation that no matter how hard I try I cannot make such as the comma. 
no worries however. if you want to make a comma, perform a two finger swipe 
down after writing the period and then you will hear other items. when you hear 
comma, perform a two finger swipe to the right and keep going. 

3. You get upper and lowercase letters by performing the 3 finger swipe up or 
down and you will hear the categories change. just like you did to get to 
punctuation.

As for questions 4 and 5, I believe you are asking the same question. voiceover 
mode practice is for voiceover gestures. I do not believe you can practice 
handwriting in this mode since handwriting is not a gesture while double 
tapping or a flick to the right would be considered a gesture and not 
punctuation, numbers, or letters.

Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick 
On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Pinky pink...@abe.midco.net wrote:

 Hi group,
  
 I have a few questions on the hand writing mode in IOS 7.  I have hand 
 writing in my rotor.
  
 1.   How do you get a space in hand writing mode?
 2.   How do you do the punctuations ?. Period, question mark, comma.
 3.   How do you get upper case and lower case letters?
 4.   When going to the VO practice I can’t get hand writing to work 
 there.  What am I doing wrong.
 5.   When using the four finger double tap on the home screen, practice 
 mode comes up stated all you can do in practice mode and I can’t get hand 
 writing to work there.   I understand the four finger double tap turns on 
 handwriting practice mode.,
  
 Thanks for any assistance on these questions.
  
 Ed.
 
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Re: A couple of iPhone 5S observations

2013-10-18 Thread Patrick Neazer
Hello Grant and all:

If you place your finger firmly on the power button and then shake your phone, 
you may discover that the sound you hear greatly diminishes or disappears 
completely. the power button seems to be seated slightly differently than the 
5. 

As for the muffled nature of the sound, I will have to leave that to others. 
one persons distortion has always seemed to be another person's … I cannot hear 
that :). 

Give your phone a shake and let us see if our notes compare :).

Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick 
On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote:

 Just a quick message to see if others can replicate the following on their 
 iPhone 5S. The first thing I’ve noticed is that the clarity of the speaker is 
 a bit less than that of the iPhone 5. It sounds a little “muffled”, or at 
 least more “bassy”, and it seems that it distorts a bit easier. I plan to 
 look at some iPhone 5S units on display to see if mine is any different from 
 them, but just thought I’d throw that out there. The other thing I notice is 
 a subtle “clink” sound when the phone is shook. I want to say “rattle”, but 
 it’s not really a rattle, just a tiny clink. It is something that my iPhone 5 
 didn’t do though, and I’m curious whether others’ 5Ss do.
  
 Thanks,
  
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Re: More than one device?

2013-10-18 Thread Regina Alvarado
OK, really dense! Where do I find restore backup so I can restore my iPad with 
my iPhone? Thank you. 


reggie and Allegra

On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:51 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

Al you have to do is back it up to iCloud then when setting up you're other 
devices choose the restore from backup option all you're settings and apps and 
every thing will be restored.

-Original Message- From: Regina Alvarado
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: More than one device?

Same basic question, but when I got my iPad I downloaded apps from the store 
under purchased. Did not understand I would have to restore. This was a few 
weeks ago when everything was 7.0. My phone remains with everything the way I 
want it. Question: is there now any way to re-sync my iPad to iPhone moving all 
apps and settings over or am I stuck doing all by hand? Same question for an 
upgraded phone. I have a few items I absolutely want to transfer both to my 
iPad and eventually a new phone. Please if describing, go step-by-step. I do 
not want to guess on this. I will do all by hand, but it would be much easier 
for me if it could just sync exactly like the phone, of course understanding 
the iPad is different in some ways! Thank you in advance. Perhaps I got just a 
bit ahead of myself and should have waited until the fire of 7.02 died down 
before I tried to be a techie! :)


reggie and Allegra

On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:29 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

Most of this will be covered by an iCloud backup from the first and restore
to the second.  That should include data for the apps if turned on, so yes
to their settings too.  I don't know about music, that is more an iTunes
thing, and that would preclude iCloud.
Apps might have iPad specific code so would change when it discovered what
it was running on, but no reason not to work. There's an option to make
small screen apps to fill the larger iPad screen.

In short, I never found an issue when i had both.

Rh.
- Original Message - From: Tom Cramer tom.cram...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 7:15 AM
Subject: More than one device?


Hi,



I just got an IPad, but I want to know the following.

Can I have the same apps on my IPad as on my IPhone, and will they work the
same?

Also, will the settings be the same, or will I have to do settings on each
device.  I mean, if I download OOTunes or Tunein radio, will I be able to
get the same stations listed in my recents or favorites or will I need to do
that separately on the IPad?

Finally, what about the music I have on my Iphone?

I have absolutely no idea how to go about getting it to the Ipad.  Please
help!



Thanks

Tom

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Re: More than one device?

2013-10-18 Thread RobH.
setting/icloud/manage backups;  you can backup or restore in there 
somewhere.

R.
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From: Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: More than one device?


OK, really dense! Where do I find restore backup so I can restore my iPad 
with my iPhone? Thank you.


reggie and Allegra

On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:51 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

Al you have to do is back it up to iCloud then when setting up you're other 
devices choose the restore from backup option all you're settings and apps 
and every thing will be restored.

-Original Message- From: Regina Alvarado
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: More than one device?

Same basic question, but when I got my iPad I downloaded apps from the store 
under purchased. Did not understand I would have to restore. This was a few 
weeks ago when everything was 7.0. My phone remains with everything the way 
I want it. Question: is there now any way to re-sync my iPad to iPhone 
moving all apps and settings over or am I stuck doing all by hand? Same 
question for an upgraded phone. I have a few items I absolutely want to 
transfer both to my iPad and eventually a new phone. Please if describing, 
go step-by-step. I do not want to guess on this. I will do all by hand, but 
it would be much easier for me if it could just sync exactly like the phone, 
of course understanding the iPad is different in some ways! Thank you in 
advance. Perhaps I got just a bit ahead of myself and should have waited 
until the fire of 7.02 died down before I tried to be a techie! :)


reggie and Allegra

On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:29 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

Most of this will be covered by an iCloud backup from the first and restore
to the second.  That should include data for the apps if turned on, so yes
to their settings too.  I don't know about music, that is more an iTunes
thing, and that would preclude iCloud.
Apps might have iPad specific code so would change when it discovered what
it was running on, but no reason not to work. There's an option to make
small screen apps to fill the larger iPad screen.

In short, I never found an issue when i had both.

Rh.
- Original Message - From: Tom Cramer tom.cram...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 7:15 AM
Subject: More than one device?


Hi,



I just got an IPad, but I want to know the following.

Can I have the same apps on my IPad as on my IPhone, and will they work the
same?

Also, will the settings be the same, or will I have to do settings on each
device.  I mean, if I download OOTunes or Tunein radio, will I be able to
get the same stations listed in my recents or favorites or will I need to do
that separately on the IPad?

Finally, what about the music I have on my Iphone?

I have absolutely no idea how to go about getting it to the Ipad.  Please
help!



Thanks

Tom

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Re: Series silences!

2013-10-18 Thread Carol Pearson
Hi Robin,

Thanks for your comments. I appreciate them. However, I am actually talking 
about when dictating and not when I'm asking Siri questions and to do things 
and usually find this happens when first dictating. After that, everything 
often seems okay. It's so annoying! I don't quite know whether to report this 
as a bug or whether I'm just being too particular, but I just don't like it!

Anyone got any more thoughts about what to do? I do find that there has been 
some improvement on how well Siri is working now, because at first that was not 
good either.

Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 18 Oct 2013, at 03:21 pm, Robin Christopherson 
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Carol
Whenever Siri doesn’t answer straight away I’ve learned not to wait and I know 
that, if he (in the UK Siri’s a he) doesn’t respond instantly then nine times 
out of ten he won’t respond at all. So I don’t waste time and I just reissue 
the command and chances are he’ll come right back. I literally wait no more 
than two seconds before reissuing.
I’m not sure why it’s an all or nothing thing like this but I have found it a 
really useful strategy as I used to slavishly wait for a response and, as I 
say, nine times out of ten was disappointed because you’d wait ten or fifteen 
seconds only for him to apologise profusely about being unavailable.
Thanks, Robin.
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Re: Restoring From THE Cloud

2013-10-18 Thread Regina Alvarado
Nothing, no restore at all. I just cannot figure out what I am looking for. I 
did a backup on iPhone, but when I go into my iPad, iCloud, manage backup, no 
restore. Am I missing it or is it not restore but another word? Sorry, just 
plain stuck which is where I've been since I got the iPad. Thanks.


reggie and Allegra

On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for clarifying this for me. That's what I thought. The reason that I 
posted this is that there is a recent post in using the cloud to restore a new 
iDevice, whatever it is using iCloud. Others need to be clear that the current 
version of an app will be placed on the new device and that some apps become 
broken when a new version is released. I just wanted others to know this before 
using the cloud.

Thanks.

Best,
Eileen


Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think you have this right.  If you restore from the cloud, you always get 
 the most recent version of an app.  I remember Jonathan Mosen reported this a 
 while back.
 
 Les
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I am posting a new thread for clarification. It is my understanding that if 
 one chooses to restore from the cloud that the apps placed on the new device 
 will be the current version of an app. First, Is this true? And, if one 
 wants certain apps to be an older versions that one should restore from 
 iTunes. Further explanation of this would be terrific, as I will be 
 purchasing a new phone in the near future.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 
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Re: Restoring From THE Cloud

2013-10-18 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Restore from iCloud backup is an option found during the initial setup of an 
IOS device.  Its not something you can do from settings.

hth

Ricardo Walker
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On Oct 18, 2013, at 4:17 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nothing, no restore at all. I just cannot figure out what I am looking for. I 
 did a backup on iPhone, but when I go into my iPad, iCloud, manage backup, no 
 restore. Am I missing it or is it not restore but another word? Sorry, just 
 plain stuck which is where I've been since I got the iPad. Thanks.
 
 
 reggie and Allegra
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Thanks for clarifying this for me. That's what I thought. The reason that I 
 posted this is that there is a recent post in using the cloud to restore a 
 new iDevice, whatever it is using iCloud. Others need to be clear that the 
 current version of an app will be placed on the new device and that some apps 
 become broken when a new version is released. I just wanted others to know 
 this before using the cloud.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think you have this right.  If you restore from the cloud, you always get 
 the most recent version of an app.  I remember Jonathan Mosen reported this 
 a while back.
 
 Les
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I am posting a new thread for clarification. It is my understanding that if 
 one chooses to restore from the cloud that the apps placed on the new 
 device will be the current version of an app. First, Is this true? And, if 
 one wants certain apps to be an older versions that one should restore from 
 iTunes. Further explanation of this would be terrific, as I will be 
 purchasing a new phone in the near future.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 
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RE: A couple of iPhone 5S observations

2013-10-18 Thread Neal Ewers
Hi, The 5C speaker is also different from the 5.  I would not say it is
muffled, it is, perhaps slightly, but it seems to have a fuller sound. That
fullness may mask the upper end of the sound for some. And, I have no clue
if it is the same as the 5S. I was just commenting on speaker sound for
anyone who was interested in the change from the 5.

 

Neal

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Patrick Neazer
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A couple of iPhone 5S observations

 

Hello Grant and all:

 

If you place your finger firmly on the power button and then shake your
phone, you may discover that the sound you hear greatly diminishes or
disappears completely. the power button seems to be seated slightly
differently than the 5. 

 

As for the muffled nature of the sound, I will have to leave that to others.
one persons distortion has always seemed to be another person's . I cannot
hear that :). 

 

Give your phone a shake and let us see if our notes compare :).

 

Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.

 

Take good care and I wish you enough.

 

Patrick 

On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote:





Just a quick message to see if others can replicate the following on their
iPhone 5S. The first thing I've noticed is that the clarity of the speaker
is a bit less than that of the iPhone 5. It sounds a little muffled, or at
least more bassy, and it seems that it distorts a bit easier. I plan to
look at some iPhone 5S units on display to see if mine is any different from
them, but just thought I'd throw that out there. The other thing I notice is
a subtle clink sound when the phone is shook. I want to say rattle, but
it's not really a rattle, just a tiny clink. It is something that my iPhone
5 didn't do though, and I'm curious whether others' 5Ss do.

 

Thanks,

 

Grant

 

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RE: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

2013-10-18 Thread Rose Combs
I can only say that mine is in the right most slit in my dock and so is my
husband's and they work just fine.  

 

 

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Of Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

Hi,

that is interesting as no one from Apple accessibility with whom I spoke
indicated this was the case.

Robin

 

 

From: Rose Combs mailto:rosecom...@gmail.com  

Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:11 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

I read it somewhere, just not sure where.  

 

 

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Of Robin Frost
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

Hi,

Could you please expound on your statement that they decided this?  I've
seen no indication that this was a deliberate change in the way things were
handled.  Rather it was posed to me as an oversight or a bug that was missed
and therefore could be potentially fixed were it reported to Apple's
Accessibility team.

And while it's true that removing apps so afflicted from their folders would
temporarily fix the problem it doesn't address the actual solution to the
problem which could potentially be forth coming unless you've received some
further information regarding this issue to which others haven't yet
encountered.

 

Thank you for the clarification.

Robin

 

 

From: Rose Combs mailto:rosecom...@gmail.com  

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:38 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

They decided that if an app was in a folder they would how show the badge
numbers such as items you need to update, etc.  I don't care for it either
but, it is what it is.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin Frost
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

Hi,

This problem is not specific to this app rather it's an issue with folders
that have apps with badges within them.  I have reported it to apple
accessibility via phone and their email

accessibil...@apple.com

Perhaps if others join in and report the issue it'll gain it some well
deserved attention.

Robin

 

 

From: Steve  mailto:st...@jazznotes.net The Jazz Man 

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:46 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

Since the upgrade to iOS7, Fahrenheit will not display the current
temperature in the folder name field as it use to.

 

I have a Weather folder on my main page and Fahrenheit is one of 6 apps in
this folder.  After upgrading to iOS7, the temperature will no longer appear
next to the folder name as it did in iOS6.

 

anybody know of a fix or another app that will work correctly to display the
current temperature?

 

Steve

 

 

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Re: Restoring From THE Cloud

2013-10-18 Thread Regina Alvarado
So Ricardo, there is no way for me to sync my iPad to get my data and apps if I 
have it already set up? Even when I went to purchased apps and downloaded them 
at the beginning, all the apps I had on my phone were on iPad. All I really 
want, since it will not do folders, is the data I have set on iPhone. Not 
possible any longer?


reggie and Allegra

On Oct 18, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Restore from iCloud backup is an option found during the initial setup of an 
IOS device.  Its not something you can do from settings.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

 On Oct 18, 2013, at 4:17 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Nothing, no restore at all. I just cannot figure out what I am looking for. I 
 did a backup on iPhone, but when I go into my iPad, iCloud, manage backup, no 
 restore. Am I missing it or is it not restore but another word? Sorry, just 
 plain stuck which is where I've been since I got the iPad. Thanks.
 
 
 reggie and Allegra
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Thanks for clarifying this for me. That's what I thought. The reason that I 
 posted this is that there is a recent post in using the cloud to restore a 
 new iDevice, whatever it is using iCloud. Others need to be clear that the 
 current version of an app will be placed on the new device and that some apps 
 become broken when a new version is released. I just wanted others to know 
 this before using the cloud.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think you have this right.  If you restore from the cloud, you always get 
 the most recent version of an app.  I remember Jonathan Mosen reported this 
 a while back.
 
 Les
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I am posting a new thread for clarification. It is my understanding that if 
 one chooses to restore from the cloud that the apps placed on the new 
 device will be the current version of an app. First, Is this true? And, if 
 one wants certain apps to be an older versions that one should restore from 
 iTunes. Further explanation of this would be terrific, as I will be 
 purchasing a new phone in the near future.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 
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open app switcher on IPad

2013-10-18 Thread Pinky
Hi Group,

I just found some info on opening the app switcher by using a four finger
swipe up.  This only works on an IPad is what the info told me.  I knew I
had open the app switcher on my IPad with some kind of swipe up but could
not figure out how I did it. So the four finger swipe up open the app
switcher on an IPad only.

 

Ed. 

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Re: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

2013-10-18 Thread Robin Frost
Hi,
Of course yours are working just fine they wouldn’t be prone to this malady as 
they’re outside of a folder setting resting in your dock.  It only stands to 
reason that logically that would be the case as per your setup.
Robin


From: Rose Combs 
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

I can only say that mine is in the right most slit in my dock and so is my 
husband's and they work just fine.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

Hi,

that is interesting as no one from Apple accessibility with whom I spoke 
indicated this was the case.

Robin

 

 

From: Rose Combs 

Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:11 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

I read it somewhere, just not sure where.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

Hi,

Could you please expound on your statement that “they decided” this?  I’ve seen 
no indication that this was a deliberate change in the way things were handled. 
 Rather it was posed to me as an oversight or a bug that was missed and 
therefore could be potentially fixed were it reported to Apple’s Accessibility 
team.

And while it’s true that removing apps so afflicted from their folders would 
temporarily fix the problem it doesn’t address the actual solution to the 
problem which could potentially be forth coming unless you’ve received some 
further information regarding this issue to which others haven’t yet 
encountered.

 

Thank you for the clarification.

Robin

 

 

From: Rose Combs 

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:38 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

They decided that if an app was in a folder they would how show the badge 
numbers such as items you need to update, etc.  I don't care for it either but, 
it is what it is.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

Hi,

This problem is not specific to this app rather it’s an issue with folders that 
have apps with badges within them.  I have reported it to apple accessibility 
via phone and their email

accessibil...@apple.com

Perhaps if others join in and report the issue it’ll gain it some well deserved 
attention.

Robin

 

 

From: Steve The Jazz Man 

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:46 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Fahrenheit not displaying the temperature

 

Since the upgrade to iOS7, Fahrenheit will not display the current temperature 
in the folder name field as it use to.

 

I have a Weather folder on my main page and Fahrenheit is one of 6 apps in this 
folder.  After upgrading to iOS7, the temperature will no longer appear next to 
the folder name as it did in iOS6.

 

anybody know of a fix or another app that will work correctly to display the 
current temperature?

 

Steve

 

 

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Re: Data usage question

2013-10-18 Thread David Chittenden
It D pens on the complexity of what you are listening to, but figure an average 
use of 1 MB per minute when listening to high-quality music through Pandora.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 19 Oct 2013, at 4:25, Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I feel foolish asking this question because I am certain that something is 
 radically wrong. But what?
 
 One of my IOS devices is a 4S running IOS 7.02. It is activated on the 
 Verizon network. The other day, while waiting for an appointment, I listened 
 to Pandora for 55 minutes, using cellular data. I have the app called Dataman 
 which I checked for usage and found that Dataman alleged a data usage of 
 almost 75 megs for that 55 minute period. I remember reading a post a couple 
 of months ago on this list stating that Pandora usage should be perhaps 16 
 megs per hour. Prior to turning on Pandora, I had cleared the app switcher of 
 everything with the exception of Dataman; so I know that no other app was 
 using cellular data while Pandora was running.
 
 So the question becomes, is it even possible for Pandora (the free version) 
 to use almost 75 megs in slightly less than an hour? Opinions and ideas 
 please.
 
 Don Roberts
 
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Backing up 2 iPhones to my Mac

2013-10-18 Thread Agent086b
Hi,
my wife's PC has spat the dummy!! I need to back up her iPhone to my Mac. I 
already have my iPhone backed up to this computer and don't wish to replace my 
backup with hers. Can anybody offer any suggestions? 
Thanks for any help.
Max.

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Re: Data usage question

2013-10-18 Thread David Chittenden
16 MB per hour is for significantly lower quality, less frequency rich audio 
transmission; such as Skype or other VoIP voice calls. Four audio Rich music, 
it is approximately 1 MB per minute.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 19 Oct 2013, at 6:40, Patrick Neazer vantagepoint1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Donald and all:
 
 I completely understand the idea of not wanting to use more data than is your 
 share. we have a plan here as well and even though there is plenty of data to 
 go around, checking now and again cannot hurt. I cannot tell you how many 
 times I have been told that a particular app will use such and such amounts 
 of data only to be greatly surprised both to my advantage and disadvantage. 
 so, my experience is that checking for myself hurts no one and might just 
 help me and the ones on my plan :).
 
 If you run another test, please post your findings to the list. if no one 
 else is curious, I certainly am because the difference between 16 and 75 meg 
 is interesting if not hugely substantial :). 
 
 Please let us know what happens on your adventure :).
 
 Take good care and I wish you enough.
 
 Patrick 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Donald L. Roberts 
 donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Patrick, The answer to your question is yes I did. After checking 
 Dataman, I went into the usage area of settings to confirm Dataman's figures 
 and found that they concurred.
 
 I think I will try again. It's not that I don't have the data, but this 
 phone is on a shared family plan, and I don't want to use more than my share 
 of data.
 
 Don Roberts
 
 
 On 10/18/2013 10:03 AM, Patrick Neazer wrote:
 Hello Donald and all:
 
 Did you happen to take the check data feature for a spin after your pandora 
 experience? if so, what did you get? forgive me if this sounds obvious to 
 you.
 
 What I am really asking is were you able to confirm a result other than by 
 using data man.
 
 Take good care and I wish you enough.
 
 Patrick
 
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
 donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Patrick, Thanks so much for the prompt response. In my initial message, I 
 neglected to mention that prior to logging on to Pandora, I checked the 
 usage of data for the month and found that it was almost nil.
 
 Don Roberts
 
 
 On 10/18/2013 8:36 AM, Patrick Neazer wrote:
 Hello Donald and all:
 
 Let me start with the punch line … :). I have absolutely no idea what the 
 answer to your question is … though I might have a way to get at an 
 answer.
 
 I am an ATT customer. If I type in *data# *3282# I receive a text 
 message back informing me of my current usage. did you have any idea what 
 your usage was before using pandora? if so, you might be able to get a 
 ballpark idea if you use the comparable verizon feature … if there is 
 such a beast. I cannot believe there is not such a beast :).
 
 Of course I could say … of course Pandora uses such and such data … or of 
 course pandora could never use such and such amounts of data in an hour. 
 the only way to find out is to test it and take the guess work out of it.
 
 Of course, there will be a lag in the update time though an educated 
 guess can be reached.
 
 Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.
 
 Take good care and I wish you enough.
 
 Patrick
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
 donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I feel foolish asking this question because I am certain that something 
 is radically wrong. But what?
 
 One of my IOS devices is a 4S running IOS 7.02. It is activated on the 
 Verizon network. The other day, while waiting for an appointment, I 
 listened to Pandora for 55 minutes, using cellular data. I have the app 
 called Dataman which I checked for usage and found that Dataman alleged 
 a data usage of almost 75 megs for that 55 minute period. I remember 
 reading a post a couple of months ago on this list stating that Pandora 
 usage should be perhaps 16 megs per hour. Prior to turning on Pandora, I 
 had cleared the app switcher of everything with the exception of 
 Dataman; so I know that no other app was using cellular data while 
 Pandora was running.
 
 So the question becomes, is it even possible for Pandora (the free 
 version) to use almost 75 megs in slightly less than an hour? Opinions 
 and ideas please.
 
 Don Roberts
 
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RE: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

2013-10-18 Thread Rose Combs
I am already wearing headphone to do my transcription, wearing the iPhone
ones at the same time is something I have done a few times but most of the
time it is uncomfortable, only have done it when I know I am getting a call
soon.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

 

Hi Rose,

 

Using the headset will fix this, well, maybe I shouldn't say fix because
it's not a fix, but a work-around.

In an office environment where your iPhone maybe is on your desk or in your
purse it would be easy to just have the Apple headset plugged in and all you
have to do is grab the right side with the remote, put it in your ear and
press the answer button on the remote. I usually have my iPhone in my belt
clip and I just have the headset hanging around my neck.often have my iPhone
in the

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

 

I only wish they would fix the problem of it being on speaker when it is up
to the ear, I hate my office hearing my phone calls because I can't get the
silly phone to go to the earpiece.  Never had this problem before I upgraded
to IOS 7, have a 4S and am not in a hurry to upgrade.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

 

Hi Cait,

 

Just as a suggestion, did you check what the audio routing is set to in the
Accessibility settings?

Anyhow, I'd rather have it go and stay on the earpiece since I wish Apple
would take out this automatic switching to speakerphone. I see little reason
why a Voiceover user can't tap the Speakerphone button if the call should be
on Speakerphone just like any sighted person. I think overall this automatic
switching to speakerphone causes more issues than what it's worth.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cait and Maggie
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

 

I have a 5 C and love it.

 

the problems I've experienced have been some of those related to voiceover.
these are a different screen sensitivity since installing OS7.x(I get this
on my i pad 2, also), when a call comes in, the phone automatically goes to
earpiece/up to the ear mode, even if I'm holding it away from my face.

 

Other then the little software things, which I think will even out as time
goes on, the hardware seems nice.  The phone is light but not overly so.

hth,

Cait

 

On 2013-10-14, at 5:16 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 

Hi Neil,

 

I don't see why she should have any issues with the 5C, it's basically a 5
in a plastic housing. Any reviews of both the 5C and 5S I read on sites like
Engaged, The Verge etc. have been very positive and if she doesn't use
Voiceover and you really want feedback from other sighted users I suggest
doing a Google search about iPhone 5C complaints or iPhone 5C reviews.
You could also send a message to Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast and ask
if he could ask people in his audience who bought a 5C to call in with their
thoughts on the 5C. The email address is  mailto:t...@gmail.com
t...@gmail.com. I even suggest to listen to this weeks Today in iOS Podcast
which most likely should be out later this week since he has only done one
since the 5S and 5C release so there will most likelybe be people calling in
with their thoughts, reviews or concerns. He normally does the Podcast
weekly, but it's now been 2 weeks and since it's likely Apple sends out
their invites tomorrow for next weeks iPad event, I am sure he will have an
episode in a few days. I find Today in iOS to be a very informative Podcast
and well worth the listen once a week.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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[mailto:viphone@ http://googlegroups.com googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:26 AM
To:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

 

Hi, Muy wife wanted to purchase a Verizon contract with the iPhone 5. She
was told they were no longer being sold. So, my question. Are there thos of
you who have the iPhone 5C and if so, have you encountered any problems yet.
I was a bit put off by Kara's message earlier, not by Kara, of course, but
by what the message had to say. My wife will not want to spend that much
money anyway, so she will settle for the 5C. But I thought I would see if
anyone 

Re: Data usage question

2013-10-18 Thread Chris Chaffin

Hello Donald and all,

When I saw your post, I went searching the web to see what information I 
could find.
I found out that Pandora streams music through its mobile apps at 64 KBS for 
free users, and 192 KBS for paid users.
Since you said you were a free Pandora user, this would calculate to around 
29 MB per hour.

If you were a paid user, then this would be about 86 MB per hour.

After doing a lot of reading and searching through forms and blogs, I found 
several people that conducted test to see how much data Pandora uses while 
streaming.
Most people determined that Pandora used between 30 and 35 MB of data per 
hour.

And this was using iOS 6, and Verizon as their carrier.

Now Verizon has its own data calculator on its site that you can use to 
estimate how much data you will use doing a certain task.
Verizon states that you will use an average of around 60 MB of data per hour 
streaming audio.


But after doing all of this research, you used 75 MB in less than an hour.
So I decided to do my own test and see what I got.

I am using an iPhone 5 running iOS7.02.
I ran Pandora for 6 Minutes, and this is what I got:
6.5 MB of data used according to Dataman.
This would be equivalent to 65 MB per hour.
Which would be close to what you got in your usage.

Now, since I was testing, I also did a test using iTunes Radio, and this is 
what I got:

I ran it for 6 Minutes, and I used: 13.7 MB according to Dataman!
This is equivalent to 137 MB per hour!

I can not say why there is such a difference in the data used in the test I 
found compared to what we used.
I do know when I bought my iPhone 5 about a year ago, the Verizon worker 
told me that I should be able to average around 25 hours a month streaming 
audio.
If you work this out, on a 30 day month, then it comes to around 80 MB of 
data per hour streaming audio.

But of coarse, this would depend on the quality of audio you are streaming.

All in all, since our numbers are close, I would say that unfortunately they 
are accurate.

I hope all of this has been helpful.

Chris Chaffin







-Original Message- 
From: Donald L. Roberts

Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 11:25 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Data usage question

I feel foolish asking this question because I am certain that something
is radically wrong. But what?

One of my IOS devices is a 4S running IOS 7.02. It is activated on the
Verizon network. The other day, while waiting for an appointment, I
listened to Pandora for 55 minutes, using cellular data. I have the app
called Dataman which I checked for usage and found that Dataman alleged
a data usage of almost 75 megs for that 55 minute period. I remember
reading a post a couple of months ago on this list stating that Pandora
usage should be perhaps 16 megs per hour. Prior to turning on Pandora, I
had cleared the app switcher of everything with the exception of
Dataman; so I know that no other app was using cellular data while
Pandora was running.

So the question becomes, is it even possible for Pandora (the free
version) to use almost 75 megs in slightly less than an hour? Opinions
and ideas please.

Don Roberts

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making a comma with handwriting

2013-10-18 Thread Pinky
Hi group.

I have pretty much figured out all the letter and numbers and don't have any
trouble making any of them.  The only one I can't make is a comma.  Can only
one tell me how they made a comma.

 

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RE: making a comma with handwriting

2013-10-18 Thread Thom Spittle
Switch to punctuation with a 3 finger swipe down, then make the comma. If it
says anything else, do a 2 finger swipe down and the comma should be one of
the choices.

 

Thom

 

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Hi group.

I have pretty much figured out all the letter and numbers and don't have any
trouble making any of them.  The only one I can't make is a comma.  Can only
one tell me how they made a comma.

 

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Re: Restoring From THE Cloud

2013-10-18 Thread Chris H
Go to settings general reset erase all content and settings when asked 
how to set up the device choose restore from backup.


E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 18/10/2013 21:17, Regina Alvarado wrote:

Nothing, no restore at all. I just cannot figure out what I am looking for. I 
did a backup on iPhone, but when I go into my iPad, iCloud, manage backup, no 
restore. Am I missing it or is it not restore but another word? Sorry, just 
plain stuck which is where I've been since I got the iPad. Thanks.


reggie and Allegra

On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for clarifying this for me. That's what I thought. The reason that I 
posted this is that there is a recent post in using the cloud to restore a new 
iDevice, whatever it is using iCloud. Others need to be clear that the current 
version of an app will be placed on the new device and that some apps become 
broken when a new version is released. I just wanted others to know this before 
using the cloud.

Thanks.

Best,
Eileen


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:

I think you have this right.  If you restore from the cloud, you always get the 
most recent version of an app.  I remember Jonathan Mosen reported this a while 
back.

Les

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Hello,

I am posting a new thread for clarification. It is my understanding that if one 
chooses to restore from the cloud that the apps placed on the new device will 
be the current version of an app. First, Is this true? And, if one wants 
certain apps to be an older versions that one should restore from iTunes. 
Further explanation of this would be terrific, as I will be purchasing a new 
phone in the near future.

Thanks.

Cheers,
Eileen


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RE: making a comma with handwriting

2013-10-18 Thread AppleGourmet
Hi! Are you seeing that you are using the handwriting option to write emails? 
Are you able to write long sentences? Please give an explanation. Thank you! 
(Voice Converted to Text via iPhone;Excuse typos) 

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Re: Data usage question

2013-10-18 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi there,
In iOS 7 there is a feature to go to cellular data and see individual usage for 
each app. Unfortunately it is not accessible to VoiceOver and I would strongly 
urge all of you interested in taking advantage of this great feature to contact 
apple accessibility about that. 

If you can get sighted assistance go tto settings, cellular and find the 
heading ffor enable data usage for 
Here you ssee a list of apps and with vo you  hear a switch on or off depending 
if the access to data is allowed for the particular app. However, if you are 
sighted you see next to each app how much usage it has since last reset.
My husband can see how much mail or safari or any other app used since last 
reset.
The only place you can get detailed usage with vo  info is in system the last 
section of this heading. Here one can for example see how much data siri used 
this month etc. It's a cool feature and I do hope they'll make it accessible.

SO, write to apple everyone and hopefully they will do something about this.
I am aware this does not answer your question about pandora but, if you can get 
someone sighted to look at the phone you could find it this way.

Best,

Ioana 



Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
 donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Patrick, Thanks so much for the prompt response. In my initial message, I 
 neglected to mention that prior to logging on to Pandora, I checked the usage 
 of data for the month and found that it was almost nil.
 
 Don Roberts
 
 
 On 10/18/2013 8:36 AM, Patrick Neazer wrote:
 Hello Donald and all:
 
 Let me start with the punch line … :). I have absolutely no idea what the 
 answer to your question is … though I might have a way to get at an answer.
 
 I am an ATT customer. If I type in *data# *3282# I receive a text message 
 back informing me of my current usage. did you have any idea what your usage 
 was before using pandora? if so, you might be able to get a ballpark idea if 
 you use the comparable verizon feature … if there is such a beast. I cannot 
 believe there is not such a beast :).
 
 Of course I could say … of course Pandora uses such and such data … or of 
 course pandora could never use such and such amounts of data in an hour. the 
 only way to find out is to test it and take the guess work out of it.
 
 Of course, there will be a lag in the update time though an educated guess 
 can be reached.
 
 Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.
 
 Take good care and I wish you enough.
 
 Patrick
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
 donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I feel foolish asking this question because I am certain that something is 
 radically wrong. But what?
 
 One of my IOS devices is a 4S running IOS 7.02. It is activated on the 
 Verizon network. The other day, while waiting for an appointment, I 
 listened to Pandora for 55 minutes, using cellular data. I have the app 
 called Dataman which I checked for usage and found that Dataman alleged a 
 data usage of almost 75 megs for that 55 minute period. I remember reading 
 a post a couple of months ago on this list stating that Pandora usage 
 should be perhaps 16 megs per hour. Prior to turning on Pandora, I had 
 cleared the app switcher of everything with the exception of Dataman; so I 
 know that no other app was using cellular data while Pandora was running.
 
 So the question becomes, is it even possible for Pandora (the free version) 
 to use almost 75 megs in slightly less than an hour? Opinions and ideas 
 please.
 
 Don Roberts
 
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Re: Restoring From THE Cloud

2013-10-18 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hi,

Thanks for clarifying this for me. That's what I thought. The reason that I 
posted this is that there is a recent post in using the cloud to restore a new 
iDevice, whatever it is using iCloud. Others need to be clear that the current 
version of an app will be placed on the new device and that some apps become 
broken when a new version is released. I just wanted others to know this before 
using the cloud.

Thanks.

Best,
Eileen
Hi Chris and All,

Okay. When I connect my iPhone to the computer iTunes opens and when I am in my 
device, I have a choice to back it up to the cloud or manually. Are you saying 
that if this phone wasn't setup from the get go that I couldn't back it up to 
the cloud through iTunes at a later point in time? I usually only back up 
manually to the computer. What advantages would I have to also back the phone 
up to the cloud?

Thanks.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Go to settings general reset erase all content and settings when asked how to 
 set up the device choose restore from backup.
 
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 18/10/2013 21:17, Regina Alvarado wrote:
 Nothing, no restore at all. I just cannot figure out what I am looking for. 
 I did a backup on iPhone, but when I go into my iPad, iCloud, manage backup, 
 no restore. Am I missing it or is it not restore but another word? Sorry, 
 just plain stuck which is where I've been since I got the iPad. Thanks.
 
 
 reggie and Allegra
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Thanks for clarifying this for me. That's what I thought. The reason that I 
 posted this is that there is a recent post in using the cloud to restore a 
 new iDevice, whatever it is using iCloud. Others need to be clear that the 
 current version of an app will be placed on the new device and that some 
 apps become broken when a new version is released. I just wanted others to 
 know this before using the cloud.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think you have this right.  If you restore from the cloud, you always get 
 the most recent version of an app.  I remember Jonathan Mosen reported this 
 a while back.
 
 Les
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I am posting a new thread for clarification. It is my understanding that 
 if one chooses to restore from the cloud that the apps placed on the new 
 device will be the current version of an app. First, Is this true? And, if 
 one wants certain apps to be an older versions that one should restore 
 from iTunes. Further explanation of this would be terrific, as I will be 
 purchasing a new phone in the near future.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 
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Re: Changing credit card in ITunes

2013-10-18 Thread Cliff Self
Can you do this on the phone???  Or do you have to use ITunes on the 
computer.  My Jaws, XP, and Itunes don't talk to each other very well, even 
using the Blind Tunes scripts.


If this can be done on the phone, where do I look?  I can't find anything 
called ITunes store.  The only place I see my Apple ID is in Settings.


Cliff

- Original Message - 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: Changing credit card in ITunes


Open iTunes Store double tap on your Apple Id and choose view Apple Id 
then double tap the edit link next to payment information.


E-mail Facebook and iMessage
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On 18/10/2013 11:15, Cliff Self wrote:
Is there a way, using my phone, that I can change the card number on my 
ITunes account?


Thanks,

Cliff



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Re: A couple of iPhone 5S observations

2013-10-18 Thread PHILLIP TRACY
Yes, I can verify both of those things on my unit.

Phillip Tracy
Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 Just a quick message to see if others can replicate the following on their 
 iPhone 5S. The first thing I’ve noticed is that the clarity of the speaker is 
 a bit less than that of the iPhone 5. It sounds a little “muffled”, or at 
 least more “bassy”, and it seems that it distorts a bit easier. I plan to 
 look at some iPhone 5S units on display to see if mine is any different from 
 them, but just thought I’d throw that out there. The other thing I notice is 
 a subtle “clink” sound when the phone is shook. I want to say “rattle”, but 
 it’s not really a rattle, just a tiny clink. It is something that my iPhone 5 
 didn’t do though, and I’m curious whether others’ 5Ss do.
  
 Thanks,
  
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Re: A couple of iPhone 5S observations

2013-10-18 Thread Les Kriegler
Grant, I can confirm the first issue you raised, but not the second. I do feel 
that the speaker is not quite as clear as my for S speaker wise. As for the 
rattle, I haven't noticed that yet.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 Just a quick message to see if others can replicate the following on their 
 iPhone 5S. The first thing I’ve noticed is that the clarity of the speaker is 
 a bit less than that of the iPhone 5. It sounds a little “muffled”, or at 
 least more “bassy”, and it seems that it distorts a bit easier. I plan to 
 look at some iPhone 5S units on display to see if mine is any different from 
 them, but just thought I’d throw that out there. The other thing I notice is 
 a subtle “clink” sound when the phone is shook. I want to say “rattle”, but 
 it’s not really a rattle, just a tiny clink. It is something that my iPhone 5 
 didn’t do though, and I’m curious whether others’ 5Ss do.
  
 Thanks,
  
 Grant
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Re: Changing credit card in ITunes

2013-10-18 Thread Patrick Neazer
Hello Cliff and all:

Yes, you can change your information using your phone.

1. from the home screen, double tap iTunes 

2. locate and double tap where it says apple ID. it will be to the right of the 
send gift button.

3. double tap on the view account button. it may or may not ask you to sign in. 
if so, enter your apple ID and password in the appropriate edit fields.

4. locate and double tap on the payment information link 

5. from here fill in your appropriate information.

Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick 
On Oct 18, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Cliff Self cl...@cablespeed.com wrote:

 Can you do this on the phone???  Or do you have to use ITunes on the 
 computer.  My Jaws, XP, and Itunes don't talk to each other very well, even 
 using the Blind Tunes scripts.
 
 If this can be done on the phone, where do I look?  I can't find anything 
 called ITunes store.  The only place I see my Apple ID is in Settings.
 
 Cliff
 
 - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 4:10 AM
 Subject: Re: Changing credit card in ITunes
 
 
 Open iTunes Store double tap on your Apple Id and choose view Apple Id then 
 double tap the edit link next to payment information.
 
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 18/10/2013 11:15, Cliff Self wrote:
 Is there a way, using my phone, that I can change the card number on my 
 ITunes account?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cliff
 
 
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Re: Restoring From THE Cloud

2013-10-18 Thread Regina Alvarado
I hate to be a pest, but I guess I must be to totally get it.

I went to general, reset and erase all content and data. Of course, VO was 
gone. Now I went to my iTunes and since I could not see turn on VO, I asked 
instead to set up iPad as a new iPad. I triple tapped home and VO started. I 
was now on the screen where it says hello in many languages. I tapped hello and 
after quite a while it asked to set up iPad. Going through this process was 
fine. Went then into settings and again to general and reset. When I tapped on 
that there was reset network, home page, dictionary and reset data and 
settings, I beleve which I tapped. It asked for my apple ID, and did something, 
but none of my settings or apps were downloaded. What did I do wrong? Am I 
asking for too much to have my iPad with the same settings and apps as iPhone? 
Frustrated kind of in FL


reggie and Allegra

On Oct 18, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for clarifying this for me. That's what I thought. The reason that I 
posted this is that there is a recent post in using the cloud to restore a new 
iDevice, whatever it is using iCloud. Others need to be clear that the current 
version of an app will be placed on the new device and that some apps become 
broken when a new version is released. I just wanted others to know this before 
using the cloud.

Thanks.

Best,
Eileen
Hi Chris and All,

Okay. When I connect my iPhone to the computer iTunes opens and when I am in my 
device, I have a choice to back it up to the cloud or manually. Are you saying 
that if this phone wasn't setup from the get go that I couldn't back it up to 
the cloud through iTunes at a later point in time? I usually only back up 
manually to the computer. What advantages would I have to also back the phone 
up to the cloud?

Thanks.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Go to settings general reset erase all content and settings when asked how to 
 set up the device choose restore from backup.
 
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 18/10/2013 21:17, Regina Alvarado wrote:
 Nothing, no restore at all. I just cannot figure out what I am looking for. 
 I did a backup on iPhone, but when I go into my iPad, iCloud, manage backup, 
 no restore. Am I missing it or is it not restore but another word? Sorry, 
 just plain stuck which is where I've been since I got the iPad. Thanks.
 
 
 reggie and Allegra
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Thanks for clarifying this for me. That's what I thought. The reason that I 
 posted this is that there is a recent post in using the cloud to restore a 
 new iDevice, whatever it is using iCloud. Others need to be clear that the 
 current version of an app will be placed on the new device and that some 
 apps become broken when a new version is released. I just wanted others to 
 know this before using the cloud.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think you have this right.  If you restore from the cloud, you always get 
 the most recent version of an app.  I remember Jonathan Mosen reported this 
 a while back.
 
 Les
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I am posting a new thread for clarification. It is my understanding that 
 if one chooses to restore from the cloud that the apps placed on the new 
 device will be the current version of an app. First, Is this true? And, if 
 one wants certain apps to be an older versions that one should restore 
 from iTunes. Further explanation of this would be terrific, as I will be 
 purchasing a new phone in the near future.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 
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Re: Changing credit card in ITunes

2013-10-18 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hello,

Yes, you can change your account card from the phone. Here is how I do it:

1. Open the app store from the home page.
2. at the bottom, tap on features tab.
3. I use a 4 finger tap to bring focus to the bottom of the screen and then 
flick from right to left until I hear apple ID and my name. Tap on that.
4. Tap on view my account.
5. You will be asked for your password.
6. The next screen will be a button labeled payment. Tap on it. Now you just 
need to change the credit card info. I just did this recently. You will receive 
an email confirming if you were the one that made the change from Apple. HTH.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

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 Open iTunes Store double tap on your Apple Id and choose view Apple Id then 
 double tap the edit link next to payment information.
 
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 18/10/2013 11:15, Cliff Self wrote:
 Is there a way, using my phone, that I can change the card number on my 
 ITunes account?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Deleting a song

2013-10-18 Thread Jim Portillo


Sent from my iPhone 5. Could somebody be able to tell me how to delete a song 
from my iPhone's music section? Now that I've downloaded iOS 7, I can't seem to 
do this anymore. There is a song that somehow got downloaded that I want 
deleted off of my telephone. Any help would be appreciated.

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