subject:"\[Vo\]\:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon"

The goal is to duplicate the Manelas or Sweet magnet in order to run tests
on the replicant. Replication is marked by the creation of a liquid like
mobile magnetic bubble with a boundary that is easily movable located at
the center of the magnet. The assumption is that the preparation process is
common between these two types of magnets: barium or strontium. The
difference between these two systems is most likely in the nature of the
activation signal. Fabricating this special magnetic configuration seems
to take a accumulation of experience so either barium or strontium magnets
will serve well for practicing proper techniques.

Replication process

Buy at least 1 ceramic magnet of the appropriate size and material

https://www.amazon.com/Applied-Magnets-Ceramic-Magnet-Block/dp/B0012DPKX6/
ref=sr_1_105?s=industrial=UTF8=1488242881=1-105&
keywords=ferrite+magnets

This magnet in all probability will be strontium.
-

Test to determine what type of magnet was delivered. If the surface of the
magnet does not conduct electricity (continuity tester) then the magnet is
barium, if the surface does conduct electricity then the magnet is
strontium.

-
Prepare the magnet by pre-treating it with high voltage electrostatic
tension.

Place two conductive plates(copper) on each side of the billet. This will
form a capacitor out of the billet with the magnet as the dielectric.
Apply high voltage (20,000 volts or more) of electrostatic potential to the
billet. Capacitive breakdown of the dielectric billet should occur.
Increase the voltage until capacitive breakdown does occur.
--

Using a capacitor bank able to store voltages up over 1000 volts and 1000
joules of energy and a coil of wire wrapped around a plastic cylinder 8
inches in diameter

This video shows how to build the magnetic conditioner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFarS-liuBY

I would add a shelf upon which the magnet can sit that is located in the
middle of the coil where the magnetic field produced by the DC pulse is
maximized.
-
The key idea is to partially demagnetize the billet. To do this, the
magnetic field lines from the magnet must oppose magnetic field lines
produced by the sides of the billet.

The demagnetization process must be done in small steps where feedback
about the behavior of the magnetic bubble can be applied to arrive at a
goldilocks level of magnetization: not too much and not too little. The
capacitor bank should start out energized with only 100 volts worth of
energy.

Then the magnetic bubble should be checked out after each demagnetization
operation to determine if a liquid and highly mobile magnetic bubble has
emerged in the center of the billet's sides.

This validation process could be automated through a mecanized scan of the
total surface area of the magnet aginst a bebchmark.

or it could entail rapid eyeballing of the magnetic field lines
using magnetic field viewing film

https://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Viewing-Film-Field-Display/dp/B00129CCGS/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8=1488160497=8-6=magnetic+field+plastic+film

Through trial and error, a voltage step up delta increment value should be
determined to gradually demagnetize the billet.

After establishing this test bed, then we can move on to imposing the
activation signel into the billet.

>>
>

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-27 Thread Brian Ahern

Axil is prophetic. Mr.Swartz modified a 3-d printer adding a magnetic pick up 
and he mapped the  billet. The central region had 'liquid-like magnetic 
properties.


Please recommend specific test. The Manelas billet is wound as he did, but how 
to we proceed?



From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 2:36 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

One huge advantage that Brian A has over all other replicators is that he has a 
working billet. As a systems engineer, what I  do when reverse engineering a 
old system is to spec it out as well as could be done.

That working billet is the KEY to the system. If I had the billet, I would map 
the magnetic field strengths over the entire face of the billet, front and 
back. I would NOT apply any magnetism to it for fear of changing something. Use 
only passive magnetic sensors.

I would write a specification of the original magnet which would include a 
magnetic map of the field patter that it produced.

I would never run tests on that original billet for fear of changing it in some 
way.

Then I would duplicate the magnetic field patterns produced by the original 
billet so I could run tests to see what the coils did to the field pattern.

I would then submit the billet spec to a magnetic specialty company to produce 
a billet that met the billet spec and duplicated the original billet.

Such a company is Polymagnet, a magnetic fabricator.

http://www.polymagnet.com/
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www.polymagnet.com
Polymagnets are the World’s First Smart Magnets. Create a sophisticated 
experience with Smart Magnet feel and function. The Polymagnet catalog contains 
a variety of ...




I would then verify that the replicated magnet received from the magnet 
fabricator closely followed the billet spec.

With the replicated billet in hand, there are two types of coils to now reverse 
engineer, the actuator coil, and the output pickup cable(S).

The output cable(S) is the one connected to the full wave AC to DC diode 
rectifier. I would identify that rectifier and test how it works, then look for 
some indication of which coils it connected.

I would spec out the AC power source before using it in any way. After the spec 
is written, I would then replicate the actuator power source and not use the 
original one.

I would spec out all coils and replicate them, I would not use the originals.

I would do the same for the actuator coil that must be connected to the 
actuator power source(square wave generator).

As much as possible, use the duplicates and not the originals. Document those 
originals as far as possible. Those originals are far too valuable to mess up 
in any way.



On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 5:31 AM, Brian Ahern 
<ahern_br...@msn.com<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>> wrote:

Bedini and Beardon never achieved over unity operation.


What can we learn from them?


I have witnessed the Manelas device operation, but I do not know what to do wth 
his components.



From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM

To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

Thinking about how to determine how the aforementioned magnetic bubble behaves 
as follows:

The boundary of the boarder of the bubble as described in my last post should 
be determined through experimentation in order to understand, visualize, and 
maximize the operation of the output pickup coil. To do this experimentally, we 
must determine how the border of the bubble(BB) behaves in response to the 
adjustments applied quantum tuning parameter (QTP): it might expand or contract 
while still centered in place, it might move horizontally and/or vertically 
with this movement including the bubble center, and finally the boarder of the 
bubble might grow and decrease periodically in strength.

In order for these aforementioned bubble movements to be visualized in Magnetic 
Viewing Film (MVF) as seen in the Bendini video, the frequency of the 
activation coil pulses would need to limited to under 10 CPS so that bubble 
movement can be seen with our eyes..

As an experimental equipment requirement, a sensitive signal wave generator 
that can handle very low frequencies together with sub cycle fine tuning is 
required to drive the activation coil.

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Axil Axil 
<janap...@gmail.com<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Getting back to the John Bendini video again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOJ_sFy6BQU

At 8:12 into the video, John Bendini shows how the conditioning of the magnet 
using a coil that wraps around the side of the magnetic billet will produce a 
magnetic pole structure that has one pole located in the center and another 
pole surrounding the center pole located on the exterior edge of the billet.

T

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

What Don Wilson said about Sweet was meaningful. When Sweet prepared a barium
ferrite billet, he did it in small steps removing magnetization one small
bit at a time repeatedly over hours until Sweet got to the critical level
that was optimal.

It was Sweets goal to get the magnetic field right on that cutting edge
where it could be shut off with a minimum counter field.

Or it could also be that the activation field turned on the field with a
minimum of power required.   In either case, the change of state
between magnetization and non magnetization, between a week field and a
stronger field produce the change in flux that produces the movement of
current in the output coil(S).

In general, the goal over overunity power production is the activation of
power production with a activating parameter(s) that consumes less power
than it produces.

It sounds like Sweet had the knowledge to find that optimum point in the
setup of the magnet to reach that point of minimum field activation or
deactivation power requirement.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Bob Higgins 
wrote:

> On this rare occasion, I would have to agree with Axil.  He wrote:
>
> *"I would map the magnetic field strengths over the entire face of the
> billet, front and back. I would NOT apply any magnetism to it for fear of
> changing something. Use only passive magnetic sensors."*
>
> Since the ferrite will have hysteresis in its curve, and due to the energy
> being delivered, I would expect large magnetic field swings that could well
> have left a latent image of the magnetic field pattern being excited in the
> block.  While it may be difficult, mapping the magnetic field direction on
> the 6 faces of the block may provide a good clue into how the coils were
> wound.
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:
>
>> One huge advantage that Brian A has over all other replicators is that he
>> has a working billet. As a systems engineer, what I  do when reverse
>> engineering a old system is to spec it out as well as could be done.
>>
>> That working billet is the KEY to the system. If I had the billet, I
>> would map the magnetic field strengths over the entire face of the billet,
>> front and back. I would NOT apply any magnetism to it for fear of changing
>> something. Use only passive magnetic sensors.
>>
>> I would write a specification of the original magnet which would include
>> a magnetic map of the field patter that it produced.
>>
>> I would never run tests on that original billet for fear of changing it
>> in some way.
>>
>> Then I would duplicate the magnetic field patterns produced by the
>> original billet so I could run tests to see what the coils did to the field
>> pattern.
>>
>> I would then submit the billet spec to a magnetic specialty company to
>> produce a billet that met the billet spec and duplicated the original
>> billet.
>>
>> Such a company is Polymagnet, a magnetic fabricator.
>>
>> http://www.polymagnet.com/
>>
>> I would then verify that the replicated magnet received from the magnet
>> fabricator closely followed the billet spec.
>>
>> With the replicated billet in hand, there are two types of coils to now
>> reverse engineer, the actuator coil, and the output pickup cable(S).
>>
>> The output cable(S) is the one connected to the full wave AC to DC diode
>> rectifier. I would identify that rectifier and test how it works, then look
>> for some indication of which coils it connected.
>>
>> I would spec out the AC power source before using it in any way. After
>> the spec is written, I would then replicate the actuator power source and
>> not use the original one.
>>
>> I would spec out all coils and replicate them, I would not use the
>> originals.
>>
>> I would do the same for the actuator coil that must be connected to the
>> actuator power source(square wave generator).
>>
>> As much as possible, use the duplicates and not the originals. Document
>> those originals as far as possible. Those originals are far too valuable to
>> mess up in any way.
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-27 Thread Bob Higgins

On this rare occasion, I would have to agree with Axil.  He wrote:

*"I would map the magnetic field strengths over the entire face of the
billet, front and back. I would NOT apply any magnetism to it for fear of
changing something. Use only passive magnetic sensors."*

Since the ferrite will have hysteresis in its curve, and due to the energy
being delivered, I would expect large magnetic field swings that could well
have left a latent image of the magnetic field pattern being excited in the
block.  While it may be difficult, mapping the magnetic field direction on
the 6 faces of the block may provide a good clue into how the coils were
wound.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:

> One huge advantage that Brian A has over all other replicators is that he
> has a working billet. As a systems engineer, what I  do when reverse
> engineering a old system is to spec it out as well as could be done.
>
> That working billet is the KEY to the system. If I had the billet, I would
> map the magnetic field strengths over the entire face of the billet, front
> and back. I would NOT apply any magnetism to it for fear of changing
> something. Use only passive magnetic sensors.
>
> I would write a specification of the original magnet which would include a
> magnetic map of the field patter that it produced.
>
> I would never run tests on that original billet for fear of changing it in
> some way.
>
> Then I would duplicate the magnetic field patterns produced by the
> original billet so I could run tests to see what the coils did to the field
> pattern.
>
> I would then submit the billet spec to a magnetic specialty company to
> produce a billet that met the billet spec and duplicated the original
> billet.
>
> Such a company is Polymagnet, a magnetic fabricator.
>
> http://www.polymagnet.com/
>
> I would then verify that the replicated magnet received from the magnet
> fabricator closely followed the billet spec.
>
> With the replicated billet in hand, there are two types of coils to now
> reverse engineer, the actuator coil, and the output pickup cable(S).
>
> The output cable(S) is the one connected to the full wave AC to DC diode
> rectifier. I would identify that rectifier and test how it works, then look
> for some indication of which coils it connected.
>
> I would spec out the AC power source before using it in any way. After the
> spec is written, I would then replicate the actuator power source and not
> use the original one.
>
> I would spec out all coils and replicate them, I would not use the
> originals.
>
> I would do the same for the actuator coil that must be connected to the
> actuator power source(square wave generator).
>
> As much as possible, use the duplicates and not the originals. Document
> those originals as far as possible. Those originals are far too valuable to
> mess up in any way.
>

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

>From the little that I have researched so far, Sweet was a transformer
designer. The saw negative resistance is some of the transformer types that
he encountered. Negative resistance is associated with the magnetic
amplifier that was used as far back as WWI and it was also used in the V2
rocket.  How Sweet got from the magnetic amplifier to the particulars of
the billet magnetic field configuration is not yet known to me.

Manelas must have been a Sweet replicator who somehow got into the
strontium ferrite magnet technology. These two magnet type technologies
 are different with the COP of the barium ferrite higher than the strontium
ferrite.

The activator overhead for Sweet system must be about the same as for the
Manelas system but the output is 10X higher.

Sweet generates grid compatible AC and Mandela's produced DC.

But energy production is nothing compared to the production of reactionless
thrust.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Chris Zell  wrote:

> If Manela followed Sweet’s thinking, what inspired Sweet in the first
> place?  How did he arrive at this oddly splayed out magnetic field?
>
>
>
> Did he visualize a particular shape from a personal theory?  Or was there
> simply a series of empirical findings that led to the result?
>
> I understand he was trying to shake a magnetic field – perhaps because of
> some observed anomaly. I’m curious as to the thought process.
>

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-27 Thread Chris Zell

If Manela followed Sweet’s thinking, what inspired Sweet in the first place?  
How did he arrive at this oddly splayed out magnetic field?

Did he visualize a particular shape from a personal theory?  Or was there 
simply a series of empirical findings that led to the result?
I understand he was trying to shake a magnetic field – perhaps because of some 
observed anomaly. I’m curious as to the thought process.

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

There is a new theory of gravity that ties quantum entanglement to gravity
where entanglement is the glue that keeps space time together and is the
source of all the fundamental forces.

Causing or breaking quantum entanglement will produce counter forces that
can add to or diminish the four fundamental forces.

For example, the concentration of matter inside a galaxy will add force to
gravity and cause the galaxy to rotate facted then Einstein's theory
predicts.

In the Sweet device, the creation and breaking of magnon entanglement
produces the thrust force seen in the Sweet device.

In the EmDrive, microwave interference creates and breaks the quantum
entanglement inherent is all space/time thus producing an adiabatic
reaction force.

Magnetism is a mechanism that can manipulate entanglement thus producing
changes in the forces of nature.

See here for the theoretical background

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1rxAhUl5BE


On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com> wrote:

> I am compelled to put this out there, even if it seems speculative and
> unpopular:
>
> http://www.synchronizeduniverse.com/IUFO%20OUTLINE%20v23.pdf
>
> There is something about spin and energy that is unrecognized.  If you
> read information by Kanarev, Linevich, and Vialle , it follows this theme.
> Somehow mass is being manipulated such that an object can be accelerated
> for less energy cost than is thought.  I understand, for example, that the
> Aspden effect was replicated by researchers in eastern Europe.  These
> effects could also be the cause behind outrageous claims by Schauberger,
> Searl and Clem.
>
> So, the Sweet device also showed weight loss?  Yes, that would follow the
> pattern here.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:29 PM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon
>
> Whenever purported "free energy" phenomena turn up with no apparent source
> of excess energy, there are a limited number of candidates which seem to
> rear their ugly heads.
>
> This only applies to LENR in the absence of real nuclear energy, but the
> nucleus can be part of a combined MO. In rough order of scientific validity
> and usefulness, these candidates for the source of gain are:
>
> 1) ZPE (aether, raumenergie, dynamical Casimir effect, space energy,
> vacuum energy, quantum energy, Hotson epo field, quantum foam, etc)
> 2) CMB cosmic microwave background (3K-CMB)
> 2) neutrinos
> 4) Schumann resonance
> 5) Fair weather field
> 6) Magnetic field of earth
> 7) Ambient heat (plus deep heat sink)
> 8) Below absolute zero (deeper heat sink)
> 9) Anti-gravity effect
>
> There are more but they tend to be different wording or combinations of
> the above ... and even more incredulous. Many combinations are possible.
>
> The main reason for bringing this up is that recently CMB has been
> estimated to be slightly more robust than once thought and with new ways to
> couple to it. The CMB is probably a subset of ZPE but the energy density of
> space in terms of the microwave-only spectrum is the equivalent of 0.261 eV
> per cubic cm, though the actual temperature of
> 2.7 K is much less than that would indicate - and the peak of the spectrum
> is at a frequency of 160.4 GHz. ZPE as a whole may be more robust, but CMB
> is adequate for many uses.
>
> The peak intensity of the background is about... ta ad.. a whopping 385
> MJy/Sr (that's MegaJanskys per Steradian (I kid you not) which is a
> candidate for the oddest metric in all of free energy, maybe all of physics
> ... along with furlongs per fortnight).
>
> At any rate, if one could invent the way to couple to CMB easily, it would
> be possible to see an effective temperature equivalent in an excellent
> range for thermionics, for instance. The ~2 mm wavelength is interesting
> too. There have been fringe reports of anomalies with 13 gauge wire but
> anything with the number 13 is going to bring out the worst ...
>
>

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

One huge advantage that Brian A has over all other replicators is that he
has a working billet. As a systems engineer, what I  do when reverse
engineering a old system is to spec it out as well as could be done.

That working billet is the KEY to the system. If I had the billet, I would
map the magnetic field strengths over the entire face of the billet, front
and back. I would NOT apply any magnetism to it for fear of changing
something. Use only passive magnetic sensors.

I would write a specification of the original magnet which would include a
magnetic map of the field patter that it produced.

I would never run tests on that original billet for fear of changing it in
some way.

Then I would duplicate the magnetic field patterns produced by the original
billet so I could run tests to see what the coils did to the field pattern.

I would then submit the billet spec to a magnetic specialty company to
produce a billet that met the billet spec and duplicated the original
billet.

Such a company is Polymagnet, a magnetic fabricator.

http://www.polymagnet.com/

I would then verify that the replicated magnet received from the magnet
fabricator closely followed the billet spec.

With the replicated billet in hand, there are two types of coils to now
reverse engineer, the actuator coil, and the output pickup cable(S).

The output cable(S) is the one connected to the full wave AC to DC diode
rectifier. I would identify that rectifier and test how it works, then look
for some indication of which coils it connected.

I would spec out the AC power source before using it in any way. After the
spec is written, I would then replicate the actuator power source and not
use the original one.

I would spec out all coils and replicate them, I would not use the
originals.

I would do the same for the actuator coil that must be connected to the
actuator power source(square wave generator).

As much as possible, use the duplicates and not the originals. Document
those originals as far as possible. Those originals are far too valuable to
mess up in any way.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 5:31 AM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com> wrote:

> Bedini and Beardon never achieved over unity operation.
>
>
> What can we learn from them?
>
>
> I have witnessed the Manelas device operation, but I do not know what to
> do wth his components.
>
>
> --
> *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
>
> *To:* vortex-l
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon
>
> Thinking about how to determine how the aforementioned magnetic bubble
> behaves as follows:
>
> The boundary of the boarder of the bubble as described in my last post
> should be determined through experimentation in order to understand,
> visualize, and maximize the operation of the output pickup coil. To do this
> experimentally, we must determine how the border of the bubble(BB) behaves
> in response to the adjustments applied quantum tuning parameter (QTP): it
> might expand or contract while still centered in place, it might move
> horizontally and/or vertically with this movement including the bubble
> center, and finally the boarder of the bubble might grow and decrease
> periodically in strength.
>
> In order for these aforementioned bubble movements to be visualized in
> Magnetic Viewing Film (MVF) as seen in the Bendini video, the frequency of
> the activation coil pulses would need to limited to under 10 CPS so that
> bubble movement can be seen with our eyes..
>
> As an experimental equipment requirement, a sensitive signal wave
> generator that can handle very low frequencies together with sub cycle fine
> tuning is required to drive the activation coil.
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Getting back to the John Bendini video again:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOJ_sFy6BQU
>>
>> At 8:12 into the video, John Bendini shows how the conditioning of the
>> magnet using a coil that wraps around the side of the magnetic billet will
>> produce a magnetic pole structure that has one pole located in the center
>> and another pole surrounding the center pole located on the exterior edge
>> of the billet.
>>
>> The edge coil produces magnetic field lines which conditions the billet
>> that pass orthogonal to the surface of the billet. After conditioning, all
>> the magnetic boundaries are standing vertical to the surface of the billet.
>> This orientation of the conditioning field lines direct the magnetic
>> domains to reorient themselves to all assume the polarization of  one pole
>> directed vertically from the surface. As a reaction to edge concentration
>> of polarity, at the center of the billet, magnet

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-27 Thread Chris Zell

I am compelled to put this out there, even if it seems speculative and 
unpopular:

http://www.synchronizeduniverse.com/IUFO%20OUTLINE%20v23.pdf

There is something about spin and energy that is unrecognized.  If you read 
information by Kanarev, Linevich, and Vialle , it follows this theme.  Somehow 
mass is being manipulated such that an object can be accelerated for less 
energy cost than is thought.  I understand, for example, that the Aspden effect 
was replicated by researchers in eastern Europe.  These effects could also be 
the cause behind outrageous claims by Schauberger, Searl and Clem.   

So, the Sweet device also showed weight loss?  Yes, that would follow the 
pattern here.

-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:29 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

Whenever purported "free energy" phenomena turn up with no apparent source of 
excess energy, there are a limited number of candidates which seem to rear 
their ugly heads.

This only applies to LENR in the absence of real nuclear energy, but the 
nucleus can be part of a combined MO. In rough order of scientific validity and 
usefulness, these candidates for the source of gain are:

1) ZPE (aether, raumenergie, dynamical Casimir effect, space energy, vacuum 
energy, quantum energy, Hotson epo field, quantum foam, etc)
2) CMB cosmic microwave background (3K-CMB)
2) neutrinos
4) Schumann resonance
5) Fair weather field
6) Magnetic field of earth
7) Ambient heat (plus deep heat sink)
8) Below absolute zero (deeper heat sink)
9) Anti-gravity effect

There are more but they tend to be different wording or combinations of the 
above ... and even more incredulous. Many combinations are possible.

The main reason for bringing this up is that recently CMB has been estimated to 
be slightly more robust than once thought and with new ways to couple to it. 
The CMB is probably a subset of ZPE but the energy density of space in terms of 
the microwave-only spectrum is the equivalent of 0.261 eV per cubic cm, though 
the actual temperature of
2.7 K is much less than that would indicate - and the peak of the spectrum is 
at a frequency of 160.4 GHz. ZPE as a whole may be more robust, but CMB is 
adequate for many uses.

The peak intensity of the background is about... ta ad.. a whopping 385 MJy/Sr 
(that's MegaJanskys per Steradian (I kid you not) which is a candidate for the 
oddest metric in all of free energy, maybe all of physics ... along with 
furlongs per fortnight).

At any rate, if one could invent the way to couple to CMB easily, it would be 
possible to see an effective temperature equivalent in an excellent range for 
thermionics, for instance. The ~2 mm wavelength is interesting too. There have 
been fringe reports of anomalies with 13 gauge wire but anything with the 
number 13 is going to bring out the worst ...

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-27 Thread Brian Ahern

Bedini and Beardon never achieved over unity operation.


What can we learn from them?


I have witnessed the Manelas device operation, but I do not know what to do wth 
his components.



From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

Thinking about how to determine how the aforementioned magnetic bubble behaves 
as follows:

The boundary of the boarder of the bubble as described in my last post should 
be determined through experimentation in order to understand, visualize, and 
maximize the operation of the output pickup coil. To do this experimentally, we 
must determine how the border of the bubble(BB) behaves in response to the 
adjustments applied quantum tuning parameter (QTP): it might expand or contract 
while still centered in place, it might move horizontally and/or vertically 
with this movement including the bubble center, and finally the boarder of the 
bubble might grow and decrease periodically in strength.

In order for these aforementioned bubble movements to be visualized in Magnetic 
Viewing Film (MVF) as seen in the Bendini video, the frequency of the 
activation coil pulses would need to limited to under 10 CPS so that bubble 
movement can be seen with our eyes..

As an experimental equipment requirement, a sensitive signal wave generator 
that can handle very low frequencies together with sub cycle fine tuning is 
required to drive the activation coil.

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Axil Axil 
<janap...@gmail.com<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Getting back to the John Bendini video again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOJ_sFy6BQU

At 8:12 into the video, John Bendini shows how the conditioning of the magnet 
using a coil that wraps around the side of the magnetic billet will produce a 
magnetic pole structure that has one pole located in the center and another 
pole surrounding the center pole located on the exterior edge of the billet.

The edge coil produces magnetic field lines which conditions the billet that 
pass orthogonal to the surface of the billet. After conditioning, all the 
magnetic boundaries are standing vertical to the surface of the billet. This 
orientation of the conditioning field lines direct the magnetic domains to 
reorient themselves to all assume the polarization of  one pole directed 
vertically from the surface. As a reaction to edge concentration of polarity, 
at the center of the billet, magnetic domains of the opposite polarity will 
concentrate forming a centralized  magnetic bubble.

All magnetic field lines rise vertically from the surface of the billet. This 
is why the needle seen in page 6 of the slide show reference below points up 
vertically from the center of the billet.

https://ecatsite.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/ahern-manelas-device.pdf

I beleive that this magnetic bubble is made to vibrate when a triggering 
magnetic field is applied to the billet. John Bendini  states that the bubble 
moves around easily when a magnet is placed next to it.  This is why the metal 
tappers shake during the determination of the quantum critical point seen in 
the Sweet video. We will look at that video in a future post.

It can be seen in the plastic magnetic sensor viewer that the edge of the 
bubble is highly magnetized.  The output pickup coil must utilize these 
magnetic field lines emanating from this  bubble edge boundary to induce the 
output current produced by the VTA system.

In short, the vibrating bubble must produce the output current.



On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Axil Axil 
<janap...@gmail.com<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> wrote:

More...


Here is a video that shows how the Barium ferrite magnet is prepared. Starting 
at 4:20,there is a section of this video showing that the surface of the barium 
ferrite magnet is NOT conductive on its surface (2d topological insulator) but 
the strontium ferrite magnet is conductive. John Bendini has made a few errors 
here that I will get into a bit later.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOJ_sFy6BQU


On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Axil Axil 
<janap...@gmail.com<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
More...

Floyd Sweet has reported that when the Vacuum Triode Amplifier is in operation, 
it loses weight. The reason for this may be due to the thermodynamically based 
Adiabatic reaction force produced when a coherent system oscillates repeatedly 
through disorder. This process in the EMDrive may produce a reaction force as 
microwaves create and destroy coherence in the vacuum thus producing negative 
vacuum energy.

The magnons inside of a ferrite magnet could mimic the virtual particles in the 
vacuum but be far more concentrated and forceful.  As the magnons oscillate 
through thermodynamic coherence a negative vacuum energy state might be created 
inside the magnet and a resultant Adiabatic reaction force produced o

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

 want any electrons to move.
>>>>
>>>> A wet pressed process where magnetic particles can move when placed in
>>>> a magnetic field makes for the strongest magnets before sintering with high
>>>> heat can make that magnetic ordering permanent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Note that these ferrites have substantially different properties in
>>>>> the small signal than they do for large scale magnetic excursions.  An RF
>>>>> engineer would shoot you for bringing a magnet near his ferrites because
>>>>> the high magnetic field can bias the material away from the desirable high
>>>>> permeability small signal linear operating point in the B-H curve of the
>>>>> material.  When you begin putting really large signals into a ferrite the
>>>>> material behaviors become complicated because, not only is the B-H curve
>>>>> nonlinear, but it also has hysteresis.  There is plenty of room for odd
>>>>> behavior in such a complicated material.  Sometimes when I look at the B-H
>>>>> curves for large signal excitation of a ferrite it reminds me of the
>>>>> temperature-entropy diagram.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding the magnetocaloric effect (MCE)... the field has centered
>>>>> around magnetic refrigeration and the materials that dominate the field 
>>>>> are
>>>>> those exhibiting the "giant magnetocaloric effect" which include primarily
>>>>> materials made with gadolinium.  So, ferrite materials may exhibit some
>>>>> MCE, but are not optimized for it.  This suggests that MCE may be just a
>>>>> side effect in the ferrite during the Manelas device operation, rather 
>>>>> than
>>>>> a primary component of the effect.  Otherwise, why wouldn't you use a
>>>>> material with the giant MCE?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:47 AM, <bobcook39...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Axil—
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMHO you have finally got the picture at least with respect to
>>>>>> LENR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Cook
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, February 24, 2017 3:47 PM
>>>>>> *To: *vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whenever we can get the spin of an atom to move: whenever we can get
>>>>>> a spin to lose OR gain energy, that energy can be transferred to an
>>>>>> electron with high efficiency.  There are a number of ways that atomic 
>>>>>> spin
>>>>>> can be excited: *magnetocaloric *where heat energy is transferred to
>>>>>> the spin of an atom embedded in a lattice through metal lattice phonons 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> that lattice or quantum mechanical vibrations that are inherent in the
>>>>>> heisenberg uncertainty principle. The key is to amplify this naturally
>>>>>> occurring spin movements enough to move electrons strong enough to 
>>>>>> generate
>>>>>> usable voltages and currents. That amplification mechanism might be done 
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> setting up a coherence boundary condition that involves a change of state
>>>>>> between coherence and incoherence where a slight external magnetic
>>>>>> perturbation triggers this change of state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Barium ferrite might be a magnetic current superconductor where
>>>>>> magnetic currents flow inside its lattice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An example of this  magnetic current superconductor might be a magnet
>>>>>> that allows magnetic flux lines to pass through it or not based on an
>>>>>> external parameter: may be temperature or an external magnetic
>>>>&

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

ectron pairing is not good
>>> for us.
>>>
>>> But in some systems, electrons must go unpaired, leading to interesting
>>> magnetic properties. When you put an magnetocaloric (MC) material into an
>>> external magnetic field, the dipoles associated with the unpaired electrons
>>> tend to align with the field and - importantly - the temperature of the
>>> material increases. Why does the temperature increase? The magnetic field
>>> forces the spins into a thermodynamically lower energy state, and the
>>> result of this is that thermal energy - heat - is expelled. When you take
>>> the material out of the field it cools down. Thermal energy is absorbed by
>>> the system to return the dipoles to a more disordered state. A good example
>>> of an MC material is gadolinium, which has seven unpaired electrons in its
>>> 4f orbitals, giving it an enormous magnetic moment.
>>>
>>> Scientists have known about the effect for decades. It was first
>>> described in 1881 by German physicist Emil Warburg, who noted that the
>>> temperature of a sample of iron increased when he put it into a magnetic
>>> field. And it wasn’t long before engineers were thinking about how it might
>>> be harnessed to create a heat pump, a device that shifts heat from one
>>> place to another against the gradient.
>>>
>>> Barium Ferrite does not allow electron flow to degrade these unpaired
>>> electron orbitals. Strontium ferrite is not a topological insulator but it
>>> is still as good an electrical insulator as barium ferrite. Strontium
>>> ferrite allows a limited number of electrons to flow which weakens the MC
>>> effect and the generation of magnon coherence. Strontium ferrite will do
>>> the job but not a good a job as Barium Ferrite, the job being "producing
>>> magnon coherence".
>>>
>>> Both types of these ferrets can be made magnetically anisotropic.
>>> Anisotropic magnetism is a requirement for magnetic triode success.
>>> Ferrite magnets may be isotropic or anisotropic. In anisotropic qualities,
>>> during the pressing process, a magnetic field is applied. This process
>>> lines up the particles in one direction, obtaining better magnetic
>>> features. Through sintering, (thermal processing at high temperatures),
>>> pieces in their definite shape and solidity are obtained,
>>>
>>> Barium ferrite does not conduct electricity.  It also has a
>>> characteristic  known as perpendicular magnetic anisotropy (PMA). This
>>> situation originates from the inherent magneto-crystalline anisotropy of
>>> the insulator and not the interfacial anisotropy in other situations.  As a
>>> Mott insulator, it possesses strong spin orbit coupling. This
>>> characteristic produces a log jam of electrons that stops current from
>>> flowing. We don't want any electrons to move.
>>>
>>> A wet pressed process where magnetic particles can move when placed in a
>>> magnetic field makes for the strongest magnets before sintering with high
>>> heat can make that magnetic ordering permanent.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Note that these ferrites have substantially different properties in the
>>>> small signal than they do for large scale magnetic excursions.  An RF
>>>> engineer would shoot you for bringing a magnet near his ferrites because
>>>> the high magnetic field can bias the material away from the desirable high
>>>> permeability small signal linear operating point in the B-H curve of the
>>>> material.  When you begin putting really large signals into a ferrite the
>>>> material behaviors become complicated because, not only is the B-H curve
>>>> nonlinear, but it also has hysteresis.  There is plenty of room for odd
>>>> behavior in such a complicated material.  Sometimes when I look at the B-H
>>>> curves for large signal excitation of a ferrite it reminds me of the
>>>> temperature-entropy diagram.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the magnetocaloric effect (MCE)... the field has centered
>>>> around magnetic refrigeration and the materials that dominate the field are
>>>> those exhibiting the "giant magnetocaloric effect" which include primarily
>>>> materials made with gadolinium.  So, ferrite materials may exhibit some
>>>> MCE, but are not optimized for it.  This suggests that MCE

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

s up the particles in one direction, obtaining better magnetic
>> features. Through sintering, (thermal processing at high temperatures),
>> pieces in their definite shape and solidity are obtained,
>>
>> Barium ferrite does not conduct electricity.  It also has a
>> characteristic  known as perpendicular magnetic anisotropy (PMA). This
>> situation originates from the inherent magneto-crystalline anisotropy of
>> the insulator and not the interfacial anisotropy in other situations.  As a
>> Mott insulator, it possesses strong spin orbit coupling. This
>> characteristic produces a log jam of electrons that stops current from
>> flowing. We don't want any electrons to move.
>>
>> A wet pressed process where magnetic particles can move when placed in a
>> magnetic field makes for the strongest magnets before sintering with high
>> heat can make that magnetic ordering permanent.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Note that these ferrites have substantially different properties in the
>>> small signal than they do for large scale magnetic excursions.  An RF
>>> engineer would shoot you for bringing a magnet near his ferrites because
>>> the high magnetic field can bias the material away from the desirable high
>>> permeability small signal linear operating point in the B-H curve of the
>>> material.  When you begin putting really large signals into a ferrite the
>>> material behaviors become complicated because, not only is the B-H curve
>>> nonlinear, but it also has hysteresis.  There is plenty of room for odd
>>> behavior in such a complicated material.  Sometimes when I look at the B-H
>>> curves for large signal excitation of a ferrite it reminds me of the
>>> temperature-entropy diagram.
>>>
>>> Regarding the magnetocaloric effect (MCE)... the field has centered
>>> around magnetic refrigeration and the materials that dominate the field are
>>> those exhibiting the "giant magnetocaloric effect" which include primarily
>>> materials made with gadolinium.  So, ferrite materials may exhibit some
>>> MCE, but are not optimized for it.  This suggests that MCE may be just a
>>> side effect in the ferrite during the Manelas device operation, rather than
>>> a primary component of the effect.  Otherwise, why wouldn't you use a
>>> material with the giant MCE?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:47 AM, <bobcook39...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Axil—
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IMHO you have finally got the picture at least with respect to LENR.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob Cook
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent: *Friday, February 24, 2017 3:47 PM
>>>> *To: *vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Whenever we can get the spin of an atom to move: whenever we can get a
>>>> spin to lose OR gain energy, that energy can be transferred to an electron
>>>> with high efficiency.  There are a number of ways that atomic spin can be
>>>> excited: *magnetocaloric *where heat energy is transferred to the spin
>>>> of an atom embedded in a lattice through metal lattice phonons of that
>>>> lattice or quantum mechanical vibrations that are inherent in the
>>>> heisenberg uncertainty principle. The key is to amplify this naturally
>>>> occurring spin movements enough to move electrons strong enough to generate
>>>> usable voltages and currents. That amplification mechanism might be done by
>>>> setting up a coherence boundary condition that involves a change of state
>>>> between coherence and incoherence where a slight external magnetic
>>>> perturbation triggers this change of state.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Barium ferrite might be a magnetic current superconductor where
>>>> magnetic currents flow inside its lattice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> An example of this  magnetic current superconductor might be a magnet
>>>> that allows magnetic flux lines to pass through it or not based on an
>>>> external parameter: may be temperature or an external magnetic
>>>> perturbation as an example.
>>>>
>>>

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

 field makes for the strongest magnets before sintering with high
> heat can make that magnetic ordering permanent.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Note that these ferrites have substantially different properties in the
>> small signal than they do for large scale magnetic excursions.  An RF
>> engineer would shoot you for bringing a magnet near his ferrites because
>> the high magnetic field can bias the material away from the desirable high
>> permeability small signal linear operating point in the B-H curve of the
>> material.  When you begin putting really large signals into a ferrite the
>> material behaviors become complicated because, not only is the B-H curve
>> nonlinear, but it also has hysteresis.  There is plenty of room for odd
>> behavior in such a complicated material.  Sometimes when I look at the B-H
>> curves for large signal excitation of a ferrite it reminds me of the
>> temperature-entropy diagram.
>>
>> Regarding the magnetocaloric effect (MCE)... the field has centered
>> around magnetic refrigeration and the materials that dominate the field are
>> those exhibiting the "giant magnetocaloric effect" which include primarily
>> materials made with gadolinium.  So, ferrite materials may exhibit some
>> MCE, but are not optimized for it.  This suggests that MCE may be just a
>> side effect in the ferrite during the Manelas device operation, rather than
>> a primary component of the effect.  Otherwise, why wouldn't you use a
>> material with the giant MCE?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:47 AM, <bobcook39...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Axil—
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> IMHO you have finally got the picture at least with respect to LENR.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Cook
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent: *Friday, February 24, 2017 3:47 PM
>>> *To: *vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Whenever we can get the spin of an atom to move: whenever we can get a
>>> spin to lose OR gain energy, that energy can be transferred to an electron
>>> with high efficiency.  There are a number of ways that atomic spin can be
>>> excited: *magnetocaloric *where heat energy is transferred to the spin
>>> of an atom embedded in a lattice through metal lattice phonons of that
>>> lattice or quantum mechanical vibrations that are inherent in the
>>> heisenberg uncertainty principle. The key is to amplify this naturally
>>> occurring spin movements enough to move electrons strong enough to generate
>>> usable voltages and currents. That amplification mechanism might be done by
>>> setting up a coherence boundary condition that involves a change of state
>>> between coherence and incoherence where a slight external magnetic
>>> perturbation triggers this change of state.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Barium ferrite might be a magnetic current superconductor where magnetic
>>> currents flow inside its lattice.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> An example of this  magnetic current superconductor might be a magnet
>>> that allows magnetic flux lines to pass through it or not based on an
>>> external parameter: may be temperature or an external magnetic
>>> perturbation as an example.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> See (Barium ferrite is a magnetic insulator)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.nature.com/nmat/journal/v16/n3/full/nmat4812.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Current-induced switching in a magnetic insulator
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The spin Hall effect in heavy metals converts charge current into pure
>>> spin current, which can be injected into an adjacent ferromagnet to exert a
>>> torque. This spin–orbit torque (SOT) has been widely used to manipulate the
>>> magnetization in metallic ferromagnets. In the case of magnetic insulators
>>> (MIs), although charge currents cannot flow, spin currents can propagate,
>>> but current-induced control of the magnetization in a MI has so far
>>> remained elusive. Here we demonstrate spin-current-induced switching of a
>>> perpendicularly magnetized thulium iron garnet film driven by charge
>>> current in a Pt overlayer. We estimate a relatively large spin-mixing
>>> conductance and damping-like SOT through spin Hall magnetores

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

ent of the effect.  Otherwise, why wouldn't you use a
> material with the giant MCE?
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:47 AM, <bobcook39...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Axil—
>>
>>
>>
>> IMHO you have finally got the picture at least with respect to LENR.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Cook
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent: *Friday, February 24, 2017 3:47 PM
>> *To: *vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon
>>
>>
>>
>> Whenever we can get the spin of an atom to move: whenever we can get a
>> spin to lose OR gain energy, that energy can be transferred to an electron
>> with high efficiency.  There are a number of ways that atomic spin can be
>> excited: *magnetocaloric *where heat energy is transferred to the spin
>> of an atom embedded in a lattice through metal lattice phonons of that
>> lattice or quantum mechanical vibrations that are inherent in the
>> heisenberg uncertainty principle. The key is to amplify this naturally
>> occurring spin movements enough to move electrons strong enough to generate
>> usable voltages and currents. That amplification mechanism might be done by
>> setting up a coherence boundary condition that involves a change of state
>> between coherence and incoherence where a slight external magnetic
>> perturbation triggers this change of state.
>>
>>
>>
>> Barium ferrite might be a magnetic current superconductor where magnetic
>> currents flow inside its lattice.
>>
>>
>>
>> An example of this  magnetic current superconductor might be a magnet
>> that allows magnetic flux lines to pass through it or not based on an
>> external parameter: may be temperature or an external magnetic
>> perturbation as an example.
>>
>>
>>
>> See (Barium ferrite is a magnetic insulator)
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.nature.com/nmat/journal/v16/n3/full/nmat4812.html
>>
>>
>> Current-induced switching in a magnetic insulator
>>
>>
>>
>> The spin Hall effect in heavy metals converts charge current into pure
>> spin current, which can be injected into an adjacent ferromagnet to exert a
>> torque. This spin–orbit torque (SOT) has been widely used to manipulate the
>> magnetization in metallic ferromagnets. In the case of magnetic insulators
>> (MIs), although charge currents cannot flow, spin currents can propagate,
>> but current-induced control of the magnetization in a MI has so far
>> remained elusive. Here we demonstrate spin-current-induced switching of a
>> perpendicularly magnetized thulium iron garnet film driven by charge
>> current in a Pt overlayer. We estimate a relatively large spin-mixing
>> conductance and damping-like SOT through spin Hall magnetoresistance and
>> harmonic Hall measurements, respectively, indicating considerable spin
>> transparency at the Pt/MI interface. We show that spin currents injected
>> across this interface lead to deterministic magnetization reversal at low
>> current densities, paving the road towards ultralow-dissipation
>> spintronic devices based on MIs.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>> Whenever purported "free energy" phenomena turn up with no apparent
>> source of excess energy, there are a limited number of candidates which
>> seem to rear their ugly heads.
>>
>> This only applies to LENR in the absence of real nuclear energy, but the
>> nucleus can be part of a combined MO. In rough order of scientific validity
>> and usefulness, these candidates for the source of gain are:
>>
>> 1) ZPE (aether, raumenergie, dynamical Casimir effect, space energy,
>> vacuum energy, quantum energy, Hotson epo field, quantum foam, etc)
>> 2) CMB cosmic microwave background (3K-CMB)
>> 2) neutrinos
>> 4) Schumann resonance
>> 5) Fair weather field
>> 6) Magnetic field of earth
>> 7) Ambient heat (plus deep heat sink)
>> 8) Below absolute zero (deeper heat sink)
>> 9) Anti-gravity effect
>>
>> There are more but they tend to be different wording or combinations of
>> the above ... and even more incredulous. Many combinations are possible.
>>
>> The main reason for bringing this up is that recently CMB has been
>> estimated to be slightly more robust than once thought and with new ways to
>> couple to it. The CMB is probably a subset of ZPE but the energy density of
>> space in terms of the microwave-only spectrum

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-26 Thread Bob Higgins

Note that these ferrites have substantially different properties in the
small signal than they do for large scale magnetic excursions.  An RF
engineer would shoot you for bringing a magnet near his ferrites because
the high magnetic field can bias the material away from the desirable high
permeability small signal linear operating point in the B-H curve of the
material.  When you begin putting really large signals into a ferrite the
material behaviors become complicated because, not only is the B-H curve
nonlinear, but it also has hysteresis.  There is plenty of room for odd
behavior in such a complicated material.  Sometimes when I look at the B-H
curves for large signal excitation of a ferrite it reminds me of the
temperature-entropy diagram.

Regarding the magnetocaloric effect (MCE)... the field has centered around
magnetic refrigeration and the materials that dominate the field are those
exhibiting the "giant magnetocaloric effect" which include primarily
materials made with gadolinium.  So, ferrite materials may exhibit some
MCE, but are not optimized for it.  This suggests that MCE may be just a
side effect in the ferrite during the Manelas device operation, rather than
a primary component of the effect.  Otherwise, why wouldn't you use a
material with the giant MCE?

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:47 AM, <bobcook39...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Axil—
>
>
>
> IMHO you have finally got the picture at least with respect to LENR.
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>
>
>
> *From: *Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Friday, February 24, 2017 3:47 PM
> *To: *vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon
>
>
>
> Whenever we can get the spin of an atom to move: whenever we can get a
> spin to lose OR gain energy, that energy can be transferred to an electron
> with high efficiency.  There are a number of ways that atomic spin can be
> excited: *magnetocaloric *where heat energy is transferred to the spin of
> an atom embedded in a lattice through metal lattice phonons of that lattice
> or quantum mechanical vibrations that are inherent in the heisenberg
> uncertainty principle. The key is to amplify this naturally occurring spin
> movements enough to move electrons strong enough to generate usable
> voltages and currents. That amplification mechanism might be done by
> setting up a coherence boundary condition that involves a change of state
> between coherence and incoherence where a slight external magnetic
> perturbation triggers this change of state.
>
>
>
> Barium ferrite might be a magnetic current superconductor where magnetic
> currents flow inside its lattice.
>
>
>
> An example of this  magnetic current superconductor might be a magnet that
> allows magnetic flux lines to pass through it or not based on an
> external parameter: may be temperature or an external magnetic
> perturbation as an example.
>
>
>
> See (Barium ferrite is a magnetic insulator)
>
>
>
> http://www.nature.com/nmat/journal/v16/n3/full/nmat4812.html
>
>
> Current-induced switching in a magnetic insulator
>
>
>
> The spin Hall effect in heavy metals converts charge current into pure
> spin current, which can be injected into an adjacent ferromagnet to exert a
> torque. This spin–orbit torque (SOT) has been widely used to manipulate the
> magnetization in metallic ferromagnets. In the case of magnetic insulators
> (MIs), although charge currents cannot flow, spin currents can propagate,
> but current-induced control of the magnetization in a MI has so far
> remained elusive. Here we demonstrate spin-current-induced switching of a
> perpendicularly magnetized thulium iron garnet film driven by charge
> current in a Pt overlayer. We estimate a relatively large spin-mixing
> conductance and damping-like SOT through spin Hall magnetoresistance and
> harmonic Hall measurements, respectively, indicating considerable spin
> transparency at the Pt/MI interface. We show that spin currents injected
> across this interface lead to deterministic magnetization reversal at low
> current densities, paving the road towards ultralow-dissipation
> spintronic devices based on MIs.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> Whenever purported "free energy" phenomena turn up with no apparent source
> of excess energy, there are a limited number of candidates which seem to
> rear their ugly heads.
>
> This only applies to LENR in the absence of real nuclear energy, but the
> nucleus can be part of a combined MO. In rough order of scientific validity
> and usefulness, these candidates for the source of gain are:
>
> 1) ZPE (aether, raumenergie, dynamical Casimir effect, space energy,
> va

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-26 Thread bobcook39923

Axil—

IMHO you have finally got the picture at least with respect to LENR.

Bob Cook

From: Axil Axil
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:47 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

Whenever we can get the spin of an atom to move: whenever we can get a spin to 
lose OR gain energy, that energy can be transferred to an electron with high 
efficiency.  There are a number of ways that atomic spin can be excited: 
magnetocaloric where heat energy is transferred to the spin of an atom embedded 
in a lattice through metal lattice phonons of that lattice or quantum 
mechanical vibrations that are inherent in the heisenberg uncertainty 
principle. The key is to amplify this naturally occurring spin movements enough 
to move electrons strong enough to generate usable voltages and currents. That 
amplification mechanism might be done by setting up a coherence boundary 
condition that involves a change of state between coherence and incoherence 
where a slight external magnetic perturbation triggers this change of state. 

Barium ferrite might be a magnetic current superconductor where magnetic 
currents flow inside its lattice.

An example of this  magnetic current superconductor might be a magnet that 
allows magnetic flux lines to pass through it or not based on an external 
parameter: may be temperature or an external magnetic perturbation as an 
example.  

See (Barium ferrite is a magnetic insulator)

http://www.nature.com/nmat/journal/v16/n3/full/nmat4812.html

Current-induced switching in a magnetic insulator

The spin Hall effect in heavy metals converts charge current into pure spin 
current, which can be injected into an adjacent ferromagnet to exert a torque. 
This spin–orbit torque (SOT) has been widely used to manipulate the 
magnetization in metallic ferromagnets. In the case of magnetic insulators 
(MIs), although charge currents cannot flow, spin currents can propagate, but 
current-induced control of the magnetization in a MI has so far remained 
elusive. Here we demonstrate spin-current-induced switching of a 
perpendicularly magnetized thulium iron garnet film driven by charge current in 
a Pt overlayer. We estimate a relatively large spin-mixing conductance and 
damping-like SOT through spin Hall magnetoresistance and harmonic Hall 
measurements, respectively, indicating considerable spin transparency at the 
Pt/MI interface. We show that spin currents injected across this interface lead 
to deterministic magnetization reversal at low current densities, paving the 
road towards ultralow-dissipation spintronic devices based on MIs.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
Whenever purported "free energy" phenomena turn up with no apparent source of 
excess energy, there are a limited number of candidates which seem to rear 
their ugly heads.

This only applies to LENR in the absence of real nuclear energy, but the 
nucleus can be part of a combined MO. In rough order of scientific validity and 
usefulness, these candidates for the source of gain are:

1) ZPE (aether, raumenergie, dynamical Casimir effect, space energy, vacuum 
energy, quantum energy, Hotson epo field, quantum foam, etc)
2) CMB cosmic microwave background (3K-CMB)
2) neutrinos
4) Schumann resonance
5) Fair weather field
6) Magnetic field of earth
7) Ambient heat (plus deep heat sink)
8) Below absolute zero (deeper heat sink)
9) Anti-gravity effect

There are more but they tend to be different wording or combinations of the 
above ... and even more incredulous. Many combinations are possible.

The main reason for bringing this up is that recently CMB has been estimated to 
be slightly more robust than once thought and with new ways to couple to it. 
The CMB is probably a subset of ZPE but the energy density of space in terms of 
the microwave-only spectrum is the equivalent of 0.261 eV per cubic cm, though 
the actual temperature of 2.7 K is much less than that would indicate - and the 
peak of the spectrum is at a frequency of 160.4 GHz. ZPE as a whole may be more 
robust, but CMB is adequate for many uses.

The peak intensity of the background is about... ta ad.. a whopping 385 MJy/Sr 
(that's MegaJanskys per Steradian (I kid you not) which is a candidate for the 
oddest metric in all of free energy, maybe all of physics ... along with 
furlongs per fortnight).

At any rate, if one could invent the way to couple to CMB easily, it would be 
possible to see an effective temperature equivalent in an excellent range for 
thermionics, for instance. The ~2 mm wavelength is interesting too. There have 
been fringe reports of anomalies with 13 gauge wire but anything with the 
number 13 is going to bring out the worst ...

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-24 Thread Axil Axil

Whenever we can get the spin of an atom to move: whenever we can get a spin
to lose OR gain energy, that energy can be transferred to an electron with
high efficiency.  There are a number of ways that atomic spin can be
excited: magnetocaloric where heat energy is transferred to the spin of an
atom embedded in a lattice through metal lattice phonons of that lattice or
quantum mechanical vibrations that are inherent in the heisenberg
uncertainty principle. The key is to amplify this naturally occurring spin
movements enough to move electrons strong enough to generate usable
voltages and currents. That amplification mechanism might be done by
setting up a coherence boundary condition that involves a change of state
between coherence and incoherence where a slight external magnetic
perturbation triggers this change of state.

Barium ferrite might be a magnetic current superconductor where magnetic
currents flow inside its lattice.

An example of this  magnetic current superconductor might be a magnet that
allows magnetic flux lines to pass through it or not based on an
external parameter: may be temperature or an external magnetic perturbation as
an example.

See (Barium ferrite is a magnetic insulator)

http://www.nature.com/nmat/journal/v16/n3/full/nmat4812.html

Current-induced switching in a magnetic insulator

The spin Hall effect in heavy metals converts charge current into pure spin
current, which can be injected into an adjacent ferromagnet to exert a
torque. This spin–orbit torque (SOT) has been widely used to manipulate the
magnetization in metallic ferromagnets. In the case of magnetic insulators
(MIs), although charge currents cannot flow, spin currents can propagate,
but current-induced control of the magnetization in a MI has so far
remained elusive. Here we demonstrate spin-current-induced switching of a
perpendicularly magnetized thulium iron garnet film driven by charge
current in a Pt overlayer. We estimate a relatively large spin-mixing
conductance and damping-like SOT through spin Hall magnetoresistance and
harmonic Hall measurements, respectively, indicating considerable spin
transparency at the Pt/MI interface. We show that spin currents injected
across this interface lead to deterministic magnetization reversal at low
current densities, paving the road towards ultralow-dissipation spintronic
devices based on MIs.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:

> Whenever purported "free energy" phenomena turn up with no apparent source
> of excess energy, there are a limited number of candidates which seem to
> rear their ugly heads.
>
> This only applies to LENR in the absence of real nuclear energy, but the
> nucleus can be part of a combined MO. In rough order of scientific validity
> and usefulness, these candidates for the source of gain are:
>
> 1) ZPE (aether, raumenergie, dynamical Casimir effect, space energy,
> vacuum energy, quantum energy, Hotson epo field, quantum foam, etc)
> 2) CMB cosmic microwave background (3K-CMB)
> 2) neutrinos
> 4) Schumann resonance
> 5) Fair weather field
> 6) Magnetic field of earth
> 7) Ambient heat (plus deep heat sink)
> 8) Below absolute zero (deeper heat sink)
> 9) Anti-gravity effect
>
> There are more but they tend to be different wording or combinations of
> the above ... and even more incredulous. Many combinations are possible.
>
> The main reason for bringing this up is that recently CMB has been
> estimated to be slightly more robust than once thought and with new ways to
> couple to it. The CMB is probably a subset of ZPE but the energy density of
> space in terms of the microwave-only spectrum is the equivalent of 0.261 eV
> per cubic cm, though the actual temperature of 2.7 K is much less than that
> would indicate - and the peak of the spectrum is at a frequency of 160.4
> GHz. ZPE as a whole may be more robust, but CMB is adequate for many uses.
>
> The peak intensity of the background is about... ta ad.. a whopping 385
> MJy/Sr (that's MegaJanskys per Steradian (I kid you not) which is a
> candidate for the oddest metric in all of free energy, maybe all of physics
> ... along with furlongs per fortnight).
>
> At any rate, if one could invent the way to couple to CMB easily, it would
> be possible to see an effective temperature equivalent in an excellent
> range for thermionics, for instance. The ~2 mm wavelength is interesting
> too. There have been fringe reports of anomalies with 13 gauge wire but
> anything with the number 13 is going to bring out the worst ...
>
>

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-24 Thread Jones Beene

Whenever purported "free energy" phenomena turn up with no apparent 
source of excess energy, there are a limited number of candidates which 
seem to rear their ugly heads.


This only applies to LENR in the absence of real nuclear energy, but the 
nucleus can be part of a combined MO. In rough order of scientific 
validity and usefulness, these candidates for the source of gain are:


1) ZPE (aether, raumenergie, dynamical Casimir effect, space energy, 
vacuum energy, quantum energy, Hotson epo field, quantum foam, etc)

2) CMB cosmic microwave background (3K-CMB)
2) neutrinos
4) Schumann resonance
5) Fair weather field
6) Magnetic field of earth
7) Ambient heat (plus deep heat sink)
8) Below absolute zero (deeper heat sink)
9) Anti-gravity effect

There are more but they tend to be different wording or combinations of 
the above ... and even more incredulous. Many combinations are possible.


The main reason for bringing this up is that recently CMB has been 
estimated to be slightly more robust than once thought and with new ways 
to couple to it. The CMB is probably a subset of ZPE but the energy 
density of space in terms of the microwave-only spectrum is the 
equivalent of 0.261 eV per cubic cm, though the actual temperature of 
2.7 K is much less than that would indicate - and the peak of the 
spectrum is at a frequency of 160.4 GHz. ZPE as a whole may be more 
robust, but CMB is adequate for many uses.


The peak intensity of the background is about... ta ad.. a whopping 385 
MJy/Sr (that's MegaJanskys per Steradian (I kid you not) which is a 
candidate for the oddest metric in all of free energy, maybe all of 
physics ... along with furlongs per fortnight).


At any rate, if one could invent the way to couple to CMB easily, it 
would be possible to see an effective temperature equivalent in an 
excellent range for thermionics, for instance. The ~2 mm wavelength is 
interesting too. There have been fringe reports of anomalies with 13 
gauge wire but anything with the number 13 is going to bring out the 
worst ...

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-24 Thread Axil Axil

propagating through an antiferromagnetic
> material, in which neighboring atoms (balls) have opposite spins (arrows).
> When a photon, or ...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 4:22 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Brian,
>>
>> That is the most interesting characteristic to me as well.  It seems
>> logical that if the outside surface is cooler than the ambient that heat
>> energy must be entering the Billet.  Where this energy goes is the main
>> question I would like to see answered.  Of course we realize that energy is
>> also entering the Billet and surrounding components from the external
>> battery via the drive pulses.
>>
>> Apparently, you are an eye witness to the observation that an electric
>> light is illuminated and the battery is receiving charge for an extended
>> period of time.  This observation implies that energy is coming from some
>> source while the device is in operation.  The obvious first guess is that
>> heat energy is extracted from the ambient region and converted into
>> electrical energy.
>>
>> We should not be willing to give up on the thermodynamic laws too readily
>> however.  Keeping that thought, one might believe that a magnetic form of
>> heat pump is taking place, except it is not clear where the pumped heat is
>> being exhausted, while there appears to be electrical energy generated.
>> Magnetic refrigeration has been around for a while and it is actually a
>> form of heat pumping.  And, magnetic refrigeration obeys the thermodynamic
>> laws.
>>
>> So Brian, did you notice any portion of the Billet and surrounding
>> materials becoming warmer than the ambient?  If not, you have a really
>> interesting phenomena to pursue.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com>
>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>> Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2017 3:09 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon
>>
>> The magnetocaloric cooling keeps my interest high.
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:39 AM
>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon
>>
>>
>> I swear to God if I ever stumble into anything overunity, I’m gonna
>> rectify the bejeezus out of it.  Pure DC in and pure DC out, none of this
>> apparent power crap.
>> Magnetic amps bring up Bearden’s MEG – which I don’t think ever worked. I
>> suspect its output was apparent and not real, as above.
>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-23 Thread Axil Axil

FYI :  Y40
the trade name Y40 (Chinese nomenclature) are Ferrite & Ceramic magnets are
comprised of a combination of iron oxide and strontium carbonate. Low cost,
light weight, a relatively high energy product, and good resistance to
demagnetization account for widespread use of Ferrite & Ceramic magnets.
Ferrite & Ceramic magnets (Y40
 ) have a max operating
temperature of 480°F, which makes it a good choice for some high
temperature applications. Common applications include: speaker magnets,
motors, reed switches, and Hall-Effect devices.

https://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:534040/FULLTEXT01.pdf

Review of Magnetic Materials
Along With a Study of the Magnetic
Stability and Solidity of Y40

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Brian Ahern  wrote:

> Excess energy and magnetic cooling seem to poke up every now and then. It
> is difficult for even the most dedicated technologists to connect phonons
> with magnons.
>
>
> I have had some unique experience with this interaction during my tenure
> as a Staff Sientist at USAF Rome Lab in Lexington MA.  I 1988 I was tasked
> to understand the new cuprate superconductors. By shear luck I discovered
> that MIT Professor Keith Johnson had solved the problem five years earlier.
> In fact, his 1983 paper presented in Zurich directed Bednors and Meuller to
> work on the cuprates. Bedorz was the leader of the conference in 1983.
>
>
> He found that the superconduction arises when the Born-Oppenheimer
> conditions are not met. That is, when the valence electron motion is
> coupled to vibrational modes. The electrons are in molecular orbitals and
> magnetism exists under very specific orbital topologies.
>
>
> So magnetism (Specific electron orbitals conditions) and phonons can be
> coupled under specific orbital conditions and one combination is shallow
> well ferromagnetism.  Like the superconductor coupling, specific coupling
> can lead to coherent behavior as well in  a ferromagnetic system.
>
>
> More needs tobe said but there is some new physics at work in the Manelas
> billet.
>
>
> --
> *From:* bobcook39...@gmail.com 
> *Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2017 1:56 PM
> *To:* Chris Zell; vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE
>
>
> Chris-
>
>
>
> I have understood that phonons are “virtual” particles that represent a
> localized energy in a crystal lattice made up of kinetic energy and
> potential energy in a resonant stable dynamic state.  It is primarily
> thought to be an electric field that couples the nuclei and electrons in
> the lattice—primarily the valence electrons.  The nuclei oscillate around
> some mid position in the lattice and valence  electrons change their
> orbital spin states reflecting the motion of the nuclei.
>
>
>
> Temperature of the crystal lattice is a measure of the amplitude of the
> nuclei special displacement around their mid position in the lattice.  If
> the crystal constitutes a coherent QM system, then all nuclei vibrate with
> the same amplitude and the crystal is at a single temperature.  If the
> amplitude (temperature) get to high, the crystal electronic bonds fail and
> the order of the crystalline coherent system is lost.
>
>
>
> Magnetic fields change the nature of the potential/kinetic energy
> sharing.  A preferred direction in the crystal is created relative to the
> magnetic B field that exists within the crystalline coherent system.  The
> orbital spin energy states of the valence electrons are modified.  Large B
> fields can cause large changes in these orbital spin states.  If there are
> resonances between a nuclear orbital spin state of the coherent system and
> an electronic orbital spin state, it would seem possible that spin energy
> may be swapped, changing nuclear potential energy into PHONIC  energy of
> the crystalline coherent system.
>
>
>
> A variable B field induced by a variable ambient H magnetic field will
> create a universe of differing spin energy states each with a small
> difference in it angular momentum.  If total angular momentum can be
> conserved, IMHO A TRANSITION WILL OCCUR.
>
>
>
> It may be also possible that the transition is reversible.  In such case a
> reduction of the temperature—lower electron orbital energy—would be the
> result.  (Such a reversal suggests a new concept of temperature, one which
> shares potential and kinetic energy between nuclear entities and electrons.
> )
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Chris Zell 
> *Sent: *Monday, February 20, 2017 9:35 AM
> *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject: *RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE
>
>
>
> I do recall Wingate Lambertson  - a scientist/expert on cermet products.
> Odd semi-ceramic things he called “E-dams” that generated

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-23 Thread Brian Ahern

See bellow


If you have the time, this video explains how the cooling occurs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPd9vYvJoH0=1s
[https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uPd9vYvJoH0/hqdefault.jpg]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPd9vYvJoH0=1s>

magnetic cooling<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPd9vYvJoH0=1s>
www.youtube.com
Notes, playlist: 
http://thephysicsnotes.com/U-Level-Physics-Videos/statistical-physics/Boltzmann%20distribution.html




With the additional info provided by Brian Ahern upthread, my best guess now is 
that magnetic flux produces electron movement. These changes in the magnetic 
field produced by the magnetic billet are induced by the magnetic flux change 
produced when the input current flows through the input coil.

What I would like to know is what coils of the three coils are the input and 
output coils. We do not know.

The random motion of the magnetic domains in the crystal structure of the 
billet due to both the uncertainty principle and thermal movement of magnetic 
domains might be where excess magnetic flux is coming from. This input magnetic 
flux might induce that "magnetic noise" to increase.

Just by flipping a few spins on the outside edge of the billet using the weak 
input magnetic flux might produce and avalanche of spin movement throughout the 
billet in many surrounding spins throughout the billet. I think you are making 
sense ,especially the cascading at a resonant frequency.

The key to producing more output than input is to adjust the input to the 
minimum amount necessary to produce an increase in magnetic noise from the 
billet.

How the three coils are layered: first applied, then second, then finally third 
would be nice to know.

My guess is the the coil applied to the edge would be the input coil. The 
output coils are the length and width coils. The output coils would be full 
wave rectified.

If magnetic amplification is coming from spin flipping, then using separate 
magnets might not work since the spin flipping would encounter discontinuity 
going from one magnet to another. The avalanche would stop at the edge of each 
individual magnet.

Here is a image of how a slight disturbance in a spin wave can produce lots of 
magnetic flux.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St4ykzFYJts
[https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.V932b5513956c2f7d7df8ffec946d68d9=Api]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St4ykzFYJts>

Spin Wave Animation<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St4ykzFYJts>
www.youtube.com
This animation shows spin waves propagating through an antiferromagnetic 
material, in which neighboring atoms (balls) have opposite spins (arrows). When 
a photon, or ...




On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 4:22 PM, David Roberson 
<dlrober...@aol.com<mailto:dlrober...@aol.com>> wrote:
Brian,

That is the most interesting characteristic to me as well.  It seems logical 
that if the outside surface is cooler than the ambient that heat energy must be 
entering the Billet.  Where this energy goes is the main question I would like 
to see answered.  Of course we realize that energy is also entering the Billet 
and surrounding components from the external battery via the drive pulses.

Apparently, you are an eye witness to the observation that an electric light is 
illuminated and the battery is receiving charge for an extended period of time. 
 This observation implies that energy is coming from some source while the 
device is in operation.  The obvious first guess is that heat energy is 
extracted from the ambient region and converted into electrical energy.

We should not be willing to give up on the thermodynamic laws too readily 
however.  Keeping that thought, one might believe that a magnetic form of heat 
pump is taking place, except it is not clear where the pumped heat is being 
exhausted, while there appears to be electrical energy generated.  Magnetic 
refrigeration has been around for a while and it is actually a form of heat 
pumping.  And, magnetic refrigeration obeys the thermodynamic laws.

So Brian, did you notice any portion of the Billet and surrounding materials 
becoming warmer than the ambient?  If not, you have a really interesting 
phenomena to pursue.

Dave



-Original Message-
From: Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>>
Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2017 3:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

The magnetocaloric cooling keeps my interest high.



From: Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com<mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:39 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:l...@eskimo.com>
Subject: RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

I swear to God if I ever stumble into anything overunity, I’m gonna rectify the 
bejeezus out of it.  Pure DC in and pure DC out, none of this apparent power 
crap.
Magnetic amps bring up Bearden’s MEG – which I don’t think ever worked. I 
suspect its output was apparent and not real, as above.

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Axil Axil

It seems to me, conditioning of the magnetic billet is a process that
detects the critical transition point between random spin motion and
coherent spin motion. Each billet has a unique point at which this
transition occurs. No two billets are the same in this regard because the
crystal imperfections in the magnetic domains are random in each particular
billet. The conditioning process will locate the voltage and current levels
at which this critical transition point occurs.

After this critical point has been determined, the voltage and current is
set at those  exact values that were discovered during conditioning.

Maximum magnetic flux change occurs at this critical transition point as
the small input signal pushes the billet into and out of maximum
magnetization.  The large changes in flux that occurs through this change
in magnetization state will move electrons in the output coil that
surrounds the billet.

It seems like Sweet uses a DC current in the conditioning magnetic coil to
find the resonant condition critical point. Then he uses a 60 Hz AC current
to impress that magnetic state onto the billet.

Conditioning only produces a small change in the magnetization of the
billet. Bringing the unmagnetized billet to maximum magnetization requires
thousands of amps and volts in a high powered pulse.

At 43:42 of this video below, a bullet is made to induce vibration in a
piece of metal. Sweet did not use a high current/voltage high powered pulse
to "condition" the billet. Unlike Sweet, MANELAS used trial and error
methods to detect the critical transition state where the billet would gain
and then lose magnetization which produced vibration in the metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBdvTrmHyY

Sweet and MANELAS did conditioning of the magnets differently.

MANELAS must have found the critical point on his single billet through
trial and error by adjusting the pulsed current/frequency until he got to
resonance. Maybe MANELAS could not get the Sweet conditioning method to
work. It seems like the Sweet system is more efficient and powerful  than
the MANELAS system is.

At the end of the video, Sweet impressed the critical magnetization
 condition on his entire two magnet configuration.

There is a lot yet to be learned here. Any criticism of this thinking is
much appreciated.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com> wrote:

> No!  Those magnets are not suitable. The ferrite needs to  have labile
> molecular orbitals that will allow changes between ferromagnetic and random
> spins.
>
> The interaction between phonons and magnons can be controlled by external
> inputs.
>
> --
> *From:* MJ <feli...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 4:08 PM
>
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon
>
>
> Would it be the same if I glue together side-by-side nine squared
> magnets but reversing the one at the center?
>
> Mark Jordan
>
>
> On 22-Feb-17 17:40, Brian Ahern wrote:
>
> Imagine placing 4 - 50 cent coins at each corner. Then place one  in the
> center.
>
>
> Starting with an annealed billet one can impress these fields with a
> cylinder of NdFeB magnet.  You just reverse the polarity for the center.
>
>
> This process is called 'conditioning'.  That is the condition for the
> billet that worked for two years.
>
>
> Another salient feature.   The Manelas device was powering batteries for
> his house. He had 48 lithium ion batteries  accepting pulses from his unit.
> On a Sunday morning in April 2012 he called me to say his battery pack
> spontaneously over charged and several of the batteries 'pillowed'.
>
> It happend between midnight and 6 AM. I visited him that day and confirmed
> that all the batteries were overcharged.
>
> I observed the same charging effect in July 2014 with the Manelas
> system.in my home lab.
> --
> *From:* Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 3:22 PM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon
>
> Brian,
>
> You previously said that the strontium ferrite block was 4" x 6" x 1".
> Can you explain how the 3 coils are wound to produce a "north pole" at each
> of the 4 corners with a common center south pole in the center?  Are 2 of
> the coils wrapped around the block like wrapping a box with ribbon in a
> plus?  Then is the third coil wrapped around the 1" wide circumference?
>
> A diagram would be great.
>
> Bob
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> I have the original billet and all three axises are wound with the
>

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

No!  Those magnets are not suitable. The ferrite needs to  have labile 
molecular orbitals that will allow changes between ferromagnetic and random 
spins.

The interaction between phonons and magnons can be controlled by external 
inputs.


From: MJ <feli...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 4:08 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon


Would it be the same if I glue together side-by-side nine squared magnets 
but reversing the one at the center?

Mark Jordan


On 22-Feb-17 17:40, Brian Ahern wrote:

Imagine placing 4 - 50 cent coins at each corner. Then place one  in the center.


Starting with an annealed billet one can impress these fields with a cylinder 
of NdFeB magnet.  You just reverse the polarity for the center.


This process is called 'conditioning'.  That is the condition for the billet 
that worked for two years.


Another salient feature.   The Manelas device was powering batteries for his 
house. He had 48 lithium ion batteries  accepting pulses from his unit. On a 
Sunday morning in April 2012 he called me to say his battery pack spontaneously 
over charged and several of the batteries 'pillowed'.

It happend between midnight and 6 AM. I visited him that day and confirmed that 
all the batteries were overcharged.

I observed the same charging effect in July 2014 with the Manelas system.in my 
home lab.


From: Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com><mailto:rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 3:22 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

Brian,

You previously said that the strontium ferrite block was 4" x 6" x 1".  Can you 
explain how the 3 coils are wound to produce a "north pole" at each of the 4 
corners with a common center south pole in the center?  Are 2 of the coils 
wrapped around the block like wrapping a box with ribbon in a plus?  Then is 
the third coil wrapped around the 1" wide circumference?

A diagram would be great.

Bob

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Brian Ahern 
<ahern_br...@msn.com<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>> wrote:

I have the original billet and all three axises are wound with the suggested 
length of wire (170 feet).

I welcome any suggestions and directions.

I am not skilled with AC circuits, but I have significant experience with high 
voltage pulsed systems.

I will take it to my grave that the Manelas system worked and that we were not 
fooled. I just do not know how to proceed

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

Manelas worked along lines established by Sweet

From: Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 3:42 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

http://www.rexresearch.com/sweet3/sweet3.htm

Floyd Sweet : Vacuum Triode Amplifier -- Michael Watson 
...<http://www.rexresearch.com/sweet3/sweet3.htm>
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3 or 4 entries at Rex describe the Sweet device and it sounds very much alike…… 
orthogonal coils and all.  He did claim that strontium ferrite was unsuitable 
(!!?) and barium ferrite is preferred.

From: Bob Higgins [mailto:rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 3:23 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

Brian,

You previously said that the strontium ferrite block was 4" x 6" x 1".  Can you 
explain how the 3 coils are wound to produce a "north pole" at each of the 4 
corners with a common center south pole in the center?  Are 2 of the coils 
wrapped around the block like wrapping a box with ribbon in a plus?  Then is 
the third coil wrapped around the 1" wide circumference?

A diagram would be great.

Bob

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Brian Ahern 
<ahern_br...@msn.com<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>> wrote:

I have the original billet and all three axises are wound with the suggested 
length of wire (170 feet).

I welcome any suggestions and directions.

I am not skilled with AC circuits, but I have significant experience with high 
voltage pulsed systems.

I will take it to my grave that the Manelas system worked and that we were not 
fooled. I just do not know how to proceed

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Axil Axil

If you have the time, this video explains how the cooling occurs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPd9vYvJoH0=1s

With the additional info provided by Brian Ahern upthread, my best guess
now is that magnetic flux produces electron movement. These changes in the
magnetic field produced by the magnetic billet are induced by the magnetic
flux change produced when the input current flows through the input coil.

What I would like to know is what coils of the three coils are the input
and output coils.

The random motion of the magnetic domains in the crystal structure of the
billet due to both the uncertainty principle and thermal movement of
magnetic domains might be where excess magnetic flux is coming from. This
input magnetic flux might induce that "magnetic noise" to increase.

Just by flipping a few spins on the outside edge of the billet using the
weak input magnetic flux might produce and avalanche of spin movement
throughout the billet in many surrounding spins throughout the billet.

The key to producing more output than input is to adjust the input to the
minimum amount necessary to produce an increase in magnetic noise from the
billet.

How the three coils are layered: first applied, then second, then finally
third would be nice to know.

My guess is the the coil applied to the edge would be the input coil. The
output coils are the length and width coils. The output coils would be full
wave rectified.

If magnetic amplification is coming from spin flipping, then using separate
magnets might not work since the spin flipping would encounter
discontinuity going from one magnet to another. The avalanche would stop at
the edge of each individual magnet.

Here is a image of how a slight disturbance in a spin wave can produce lots
of magnetic flux.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St4ykzFYJts

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 4:22 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:

> Brian,
>
> That is the most interesting characteristic to me as well.  It seems
> logical that if the outside surface is cooler than the ambient that heat
> energy must be entering the Billet.  Where this energy goes is the main
> question I would like to see answered.  Of course we realize that energy is
> also entering the Billet and surrounding components from the external
> battery via the drive pulses.
>
> Apparently, you are an eye witness to the observation that an electric
> light is illuminated and the battery is receiving charge for an extended
> period of time.  This observation implies that energy is coming from some
> source while the device is in operation.  The obvious first guess is that
> heat energy is extracted from the ambient region and converted into
> electrical energy.
>
> We should not be willing to give up on the thermodynamic laws too readily
> however.  Keeping that thought, one might believe that a magnetic form of
> heat pump is taking place, except it is not clear where the pumped heat is
> being exhausted, while there appears to be electrical energy generated.
> Magnetic refrigeration has been around for a while and it is actually a
> form of heat pumping.  And, magnetic refrigeration obeys the thermodynamic
> laws.
>
> So Brian, did you notice any portion of the Billet and surrounding
> materials becoming warmer than the ambient?  If not, you have a really
> interesting phenomena to pursue.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2017 3:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon
>
> The magnetocaloric cooling keeps my interest high.
>
>
> ----------
> *From:* Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:39 AM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon
>
>
> I swear to God if I ever stumble into anything overunity, I’m gonna
> rectify the bejeezus out of it.  Pure DC in and pure DC out, none of this
> apparent power crap.
> Magnetic amps bring up Bearden’s MEG – which I don’t think ever worked. I
> suspect its output was apparent and not real, as above.
>
>

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

Anyone who manages to pull net energy from ambient and latent heat has 
encountered heresy (gasp !)

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread David Roberson

Brian,

That is the most interesting characteristic to me as well.  It seems logical 
that if the outside surface is cooler than the ambient that heat energy must be 
entering the Billet.  Where this energy goes is the main question I would like 
to see answered.  Of course we realize that energy is also entering the Billet 
and surrounding components from the external battery via the drive pulses.

Apparently, you are an eye witness to the observation that an electric light is 
illuminated and the battery is receiving charge for an extended period of time. 
 This observation implies that energy is coming from some source while the 
device is in operation.  The obvious first guess is that heat energy is 
extracted from the ambient region and converted into electrical energy.

We should not be willing to give up on the thermodynamic laws too readily 
however.  Keeping that thought, one might believe that a magnetic form of heat 
pump is taking place, except it is not clear where the pumped heat is being 
exhausted, while there appears to be electrical energy generated.  Magnetic 
refrigeration has been around for a while and it is actually a form of heat 
pumping.  And, magnetic refrigeration obeys the thermodynamic laws.

So Brian, did you notice any portion of the Billet and surrounding materials 
becoming warmer than the ambient?  If not, you have a really interesting 
phenomena to pursue.

Dave

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2017 3:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon



The magnetocaloric cooling keeps my interest high.



From: Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:39 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon
 






I swear to God if I ever stumble into anything overunity, I’m gonna rectify the 
bejeezus out of it.  Pure DC in and pure DC out, none of this apparent power 
crap.
Magnetic amps bring up Bearden’s MEG – which I don’t think ever worked. I 
suspect its output was apparent and not real, as above.

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread MJ



Would it be the same if I glue together side-by-side nine squared 
magnets but reversing the one at the center?


Mark Jordan


On 22-Feb-17 17:40, Brian Ahern wrote:


Imagine placing 4 - 50 cent coins at each corner. Then place one  in 
the center.



Starting with an annealed billet one can impress these fields with a 
cylinder of NdFeB magnet.  You just reverse the polarity for the center.



This process is called 'conditioning'.  That is the condition for the 
billet that worked for two years.



Another salient feature.   The Manelas device was powering batteries 
for his house. He had 48 lithium ion batteries  accepting pulses from 
his unit. On a Sunday morning in April 2012 he called me to say his 
battery pack spontaneously over charged and several of the batteries 
'pillowed'.


It happend between midnight and 6 AM. I visited him that day 
and confirmed that all the batteries were overcharged.


I observed the same charging effect in July 2014 with the Manelas 
system.in my home lab.



*From:* Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 3:22 PM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon
Brian,

You previously said that the strontium ferrite block was 4" x 6" x 
1".  Can you explain how the 3 coils are wound to produce a "north 
pole" at each of the 4 corners with a common center south pole in the 
center?  Are 2 of the coils wrapped around the block like wrapping a 
box with ribbon in a plus?  Then is the third coil wrapped around the 
1" wide circumference?


A diagram would be great.

Bob

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com 
<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>> wrote:


I have the original billet and all three axises are wound with the
suggested length of wire (170 feet).

I welcome any suggestions and directions.

I am not skilled with AC circuits, but I have significant
experience with high voltage pulsed systems.

I will take it to my grave that the Manelas system worked and that
we were not fooled. I just do not know how to proceed

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

http://www.rexresearch.com/sweet3/sweet3.htm

3 or 4 entries at Rex describe the Sweet device and it sounds very much alike…… 
orthogonal coils and all.  He did claim that strontium ferrite was unsuitable 
(!!?) and barium ferrite is preferred.

From: Bob Higgins [mailto:rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 3:23 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

Brian,
You previously said that the strontium ferrite block was 4" x 6" x 1".  Can you 
explain how the 3 coils are wound to produce a "north pole" at each of the 4 
corners with a common center south pole in the center?  Are 2 of the coils 
wrapped around the block like wrapping a box with ribbon in a plus?  Then is 
the third coil wrapped around the 1" wide circumference?
A diagram would be great.

Bob

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Brian Ahern 
<ahern_br...@msn.com<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>> wrote:

I have the original billet and all three axises are wound with the suggested 
length of wire (170 feet).

I welcome any suggestions and directions.

I am not skilled with AC circuits, but I have significant experience with high 
voltage pulsed systems.

I will take it to my grave that the Manelas system worked and that we were not 
fooled. I just do not know how to proceed

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

Imagine placing 4 - 50 cent coins at each corner. Then place one  in the center.


Starting with an annealed billet one can impress these fields with a cylinder 
of NdFeB magnet.  You just reverse the polarity for the center.


This process is called 'conditioning'.  That is the condition for the billet 
that worked for two years.


Another salient feature.   The Manelas device was powering batteries for his 
house. He had 48 lithium ion batteries  accepting pulses from his unit. On a 
Sunday morning in April 2012 he called me to say his battery pack spontaneously 
over charged and several of the batteries 'pillowed'.

It happend between midnight and 6 AM. I visited him that day and confirmed that 
all the batteries were overcharged.

I observed the same charging effect in July 2014 with the Manelas system.in my 
home lab.


From: Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 3:22 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

Brian,

You previously said that the strontium ferrite block was 4" x 6" x 1".  Can you 
explain how the 3 coils are wound to produce a "north pole" at each of the 4 
corners with a common center south pole in the center?  Are 2 of the coils 
wrapped around the block like wrapping a box with ribbon in a plus?  Then is 
the third coil wrapped around the 1" wide circumference?

A diagram would be great.

Bob

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Brian Ahern 
<ahern_br...@msn.com<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>> wrote:

I have the original billet and all three axises are wound with the suggested 
length of wire (170 feet).

I welcome any suggestions and directions.

I am not skilled with AC circuits, but I have significant experience with high 
voltage pulsed systems.

I will take it to my grave that the Manelas system worked and that we were not 
fooled. I just do not know how to proceed

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Bob Higgins

Brian,

You previously said that the strontium ferrite block was 4" x 6" x 1".  Can
you explain how the 3 coils are wound to produce a "north pole" at each of
the 4 corners with a common center south pole in the center?  Are 2 of the
coils wrapped around the block like wrapping a box with ribbon in a plus?
Then is the third coil wrapped around the 1" wide circumference?

A diagram would be great.

Bob

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Brian Ahern  wrote:

> I have the original billet and all three axises are wound with the
> suggested length of wire (170 feet).
>
> I welcome any suggestions and directions.
>
> I am not skilled with AC circuits, but I have significant experience with
> high voltage pulsed systems.
>
> I will take it to my grave that the Manelas system worked and that we were
> not fooled. I just do not know how to proceed
>

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

The magnetocaloric cooling keeps my interest high.

From: Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:39 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

I swear to God if I ever stumble into anything overunity, I’m gonna rectify the 
bejeezus out of it.  Pure DC in and pure DC out, none of this apparent power 
crap.

Magnetic amps bring up Bearden’s MEG – which I don’t think ever worked. I 
suspect its output was apparent and not real, as above.

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

I have the original billet and all three axises are wound with the suggested 
length of wire (170 feet).

I welcome any suggestions and directions.


I am not skilled with AC circuits, but I have significant experience with high 
voltage pulsed systems.


I will take it to my grave that the Manelas system worked and that we were not 
fooled. I just do not know how to proceed.



From: Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:25 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

There is a class of devices known as "magnetic amplifiers" that were used in 
the 40's and 50's as a reliable means of power control before the transistor 
became available.  Somewhere I think I have a book or report on how these 
devices were designed and used.  This device relied on the nonlinear B-H 
characteristic of the magnetic core and was able to use a small DC current to 
control a much larger AC current.  Here is a Wikipedia link for magnetic 
amplifiers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_amplifier
Magnetic amplifier - Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_amplifier>
en.wikipedia.org
The magnetic amplifier (colloquially known as a "mag amp") is an 
electromagnetic device for amplifying electrical signals. The magnetic 
amplifier was invented early ...




The Manelas device may have created an over-unity magnetic amplifier effect.  
Where the energy for over-unity comes from is, as Brian suggests, completely 
open.  It could be some kind of coupling to the ZPE.  For those of us who 
believe that Don Hotson had it right in his description of the epo ether (based 
on solution to Dirac's equation), the magnetic field may provide a means to 
couple to the Dirac sea ether.  This ether is also coupled to everything else, 
including the Earth, and sun.  Perhaps the Manelas device is coupling energy 
out of the Earth's rotation or revolution around the sun - who knows.

If Brian has witnessed clear over-unity behavior, it sounds like a phenomenon 
worth investigation.  But... we have to be careful.  I had a lab technician 
declare that the L-C matching circuit he was working on had produced 
over-unity, when in fact, it only had voltage gain and no power gain (actually 
a small loss).  It sounds from Brian's description of energy being taken out 
continuously for a long period of time that actual power gain was observed.

Bob Higgins

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Brian Ahern 
<ahern_br...@msn.com<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>> wrote:

I think we LENRers have too many preconceptions about the mechanism. I am 
admittedly clueless.

The large billet with its conditioned fields seems to be the central item. 
There were three sets of orthoganol windings. Presumably a signal was admitted 
to one or two of them and amplified power  coming from the third winding.

It is acting as a transformer that is extracting energy from the magnetic 
interactions.

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

I swear to God if I ever stumble into anything overunity, I’m gonna rectify the 
bejeezus out of it.  Pure DC in and pure DC out, none of this apparent power 
crap.

Magnetic amps bring up Bearden’s MEG – which I don’t think ever worked. I 
suspect its output was apparent and not real, as above.

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Bob Higgins

There is a class of devices known as "magnetic amplifiers" that were used
in the 40's and 50's as a reliable means of power control before the
transistor became available.  Somewhere I think I have a book or report on
how these devices were designed and used.  This device relied on the
nonlinear B-H characteristic of the magnetic core and was able to use a
small DC current to control a much larger AC current.  Here is a Wikipedia
link for magnetic amplifiers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_amplifier

The Manelas device may have created an over-unity magnetic amplifier
effect.  Where the energy for over-unity comes from is, as Brian suggests,
completely open.  It could be some kind of coupling to the ZPE.  For those
of us who believe that Don Hotson had it right in his description of the
epo ether (based on solution to Dirac's equation), the magnetic field may
provide a means to couple to the Dirac sea ether.  This ether is also
coupled to everything else, including the Earth, and sun.  Perhaps the
Manelas device is coupling energy out of the Earth's rotation or revolution
around the sun - who knows.

If Brian has witnessed clear over-unity behavior, it sounds like a
phenomenon worth investigation.  But... we have to be careful.  I had a lab
technician declare that the L-C matching circuit he was working on had
produced over-unity, when in fact, it only had voltage gain and no power
gain (actually a small loss).  It sounds from Brian's description of energy
being taken out continuously for a long period of time that actual power
gain was observed.

Bob Higgins

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Brian Ahern  wrote:

> I think we LENRers have too many preconceptions about the mechanism. I am
> admittedly clueless.
>
> The large billet with its conditioned fields seems to be the central item.
> There were three sets of orthoganol windings. Presumably a signal was
> admitted to one or two of them and amplified power  coming from the third
> winding.
>
> It is acting as a transformer that is extracting energy from the magnetic
> interactions.
>

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

As a huge brainstorming leap here ( and I confess I may not fully 
understand concepts such as a Bose Condensate, for example)

Is it possible that such devices are an imitation of something in the quantum 
world but momentarily existing in macro reality?  A sort of 'full scale' atom 
or spinning particle that interacts with zpe exchange?But that, too would 
not be orthodoxy as to conservation.

The orthogonal coils sound straight out of the Sweet device.

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

I think we LENRers have too many preconceptions about the mechanism. I am 
admittedly clueless.

The large billet with its conditioned fields seems to be the central item. 
There were three sets of orthoganol windings. Presumably a signal was admitted 
to one or two of them and amplified power  coming from the third winding.

It is acting as a transformer that is extracting energy from the magnetic 
interactions.

From: Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:27 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

I think we are approaching the critical point here -and if there is no 
remainder of a transmuted element or production of particles in use, then what 
are we left with?  Sounds like Sherlock Holmes observation about ‘whatever 
remains, however incredible, must be true”.

I would think that the lifespan of a magnetized structure with opposing fields 
forced on it would be limited ( if all south poles met in the middle).

>From what Brian Ahern said, the magnetic billet he used ran out of energy 
>after two years. If this depletion is the case, then there must be some 
>consumable involved in the power production process. It is my belief that 
>there is a single cause for LENR. This cause involves transmutation and the 
>resultant transfer of energy from the nucleus during the LENR reaction.

The whole cloth production of electrons in these various LENR systems must be 
caused by the release of mesons from the nucleus.

Brian Ahern should test a small piece of this magnetic billet to see if he can 
detect any transmutation that has occurred in it.

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Chris Zell 
<chrisz...@wetmtv.com<mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com>> wrote:

When all is said and done, wouldn’t it be true that there is a choice as to 
considering the primary source of these energies?  Either you are removing 
energy primarily from nuclei – and thereby transmuting them into something else 
(which preserves energy conservation/TD)

Or you’re removing energy primarily from electron spins or orbits – without 
transmutation of the nuclei – and that contradicts conservation/TD.

I don’t see how this gain would be otherwise – and if derived from spin or 
orbit, then non-rotary energy as jitter/ZPE would be eliminated as the source.  
An exception to TD and such if therein………

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon